The Volokh Conspiracy
Mostly law professors | Sometimes contrarian | Often libertarian | Always independent
Should There Be a Cost-Benefit Exception to Miranda's Exclusionary Rule?
Judge Jones makes an interesting and compelling argument that in situations where it is debatable whether an officer followed Miranda, there is no good reason for suppressing an unwarned voluntary statement.
On Monday, the Fifth Circuit decided an interesting Miranda case, allowing admission of a suspect's unwarned statements. And Judge Jones provided an even more interesting concurring opinion, suggesting that voluntary statements should be admitted in situations where it was debatable whether the Miranda rules were applicable. Judge Jones makes a compelling cost-benefit argument against suppressing statements in such circumstances, and I hope that her approach in followed in future cases.
Here are the facts, as recounted in the decision: A lone police officer performed a traffic stop on Braylon Coulter in the middle of the night. Having been given reason to suspect that Coulter, who revealed an aggravated robbery conviction, had a gun, the officer handcuffed him and asked where it was. Coulter answered, and the officer's partner arrived later to find a .40 caliber pistol and .37 ounces of marijuana in Coulter's backpack between the front seats of the van he drove. Before Coulter divulged that information, the officer did not provide Miranda warnings. The admissibility of Coulter's unwarned statements therefore depended on whether he was "in custody" as contemplated by Miranda at the time he offered them.
The Fifth Circuit held that a reasonable person in Coulter's position would not have thought that he was in custody for Miranda purposes. Moreover, the officer questioned Coulter in an environment that was not tantamount to a station house interrogation as contemplated by Miranda. As a result, the Fifth Circuit (in a 2-1 decision authored by Judge Jones) held that all of Coulter's unwarned statements were admissible.
Judge Jones went on, however, to file a concurring opinion to her own majority opinion. She argued that, where the issue of Miranda compliance was debatable, it would be appropriate to weigh the costs and benefits of suppressing a voluntary statement:
The panel is deeply divided on the application of the "custody" test. Under such circumstances, it seems to me, we ought to recall that "[t]he Miranda rules are prophylactic rules that the Court found to be necessary to protect the Fifth Amendment right against compelled self-incrimination." Vega v. Tekoh, 597 U.S. __, __, 2022 WL 2251304, *8 (June 23, 2022). Moreover, "when [the Supreme] Court creates a prophylactic rule to protect a constitutional right, the relevant 'reasoning' is the weighing of the rule's benefits against its costs." Montejo v. Louisiana, 556 U.S. 778, 793 (2009). The Miranda rule is therefore "justified only by reference to its prophylactic purpose, . . . and applies only where its benefits outweigh its costs[.]" Maryland v. Shatzer, 559 U.S. 98, 106 (2010) (internal quotation marks and citations omitted) …. When three judges cannot agree on whether a suspect in a traffic stop is "in custody," then we ought to consider the costs and benefits of suppressing incriminatory statements.
Judge Jones then went on to conclude that, in cases such as this one, the cost-benefit calculation tips decidedly against suppressing a voluntary statement. She explained that "the costs of suppressing Coulter's unwarned statements would be substantial, namely, hindering the prosecution of a convicted felon who voluntarily admitted to possessing a firearm and drugs." She also noted that "the videotape of this entire encounter compellingly shows there was no improper compulsion or restraint."
What about adopting a flat rule that police must always give Miranda warnings when they handcuff someone? Judge Jones explained that "[o]fficers might be put to the choice of ensuring their own safety or conducting routine investigations. One potential price of premature Mirandizing would be to require broader vehicle searches, and thus broader invasions of privacy, because officers would likely lack voluntary admissions from suspects. Prematurely requiring Miranda warnings during traffic stops would also inhibit questioning that could assist in time-sensitive investigations, e.g., for kidnapping victims or terrorists."
Judge Jones concluded that "suppressing Coulter's unwarned statements under these circumstances would also yield no meaningful societal or judicial benefits. '[U]nlike unreasonable searches under the Fourth Amendment or actual violations of the Due Process Clause or the Self-Incrimination Clause, there is, with respect to mere failures to warn, nothing to deter.' United States v. Patane, 542 U.S. 630, 642 (2004) (plurality opinion) (emphasis added). Here, under applicable law, there was nothing to deter and therefore no justification for suppressing Coulter's un-Mirandized statements."
I think Judge Jones' concurrence is very persuasive. As I have discussed at length in my various articles on Miranda (the most recent of which can be found here), that decision imposes significant costs of law enforcement. In cases such as this one, where a suspect's statements are not, in fact, compelled and the only issue is one of Miranda compliance in a debatable situation, it is hard to see the justification for suppressing a suspect's statements. I hope that Judge Jones' concurring opinion attracts wide attention and is followed in future cases.
Editor's Note: We invite comments and request that they be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of Reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
Miranda warnings are more denial of the truth. The question should be whether the evidence is true. If the officer has violated a rule, punish the officer, as with a fine. Do not punish the public as with release of dangerous criminals. This profession has got to be the stupidest people in the country. It is unbearable to have run criminal justice.
Which is more likely to increase the reading of Miranda warnings across the nation? The fining of one officer $100 from personal assets, or the exclusionary rule? Take all the time you want, dumbasses.
Eh? In handcuffs is not "in custody" for Miranda purposes, and no reasonable person could have thought so?
The Fifth Circuit is an ass. Actually, a reasonable person in Coulter's position could not possibly have NOT understood themselves to be in custody.
"The Fifth Circuit is an ass."
Don't be silly, they are a herd of asses.
I was at least prepared to give the piece some leeway before the opinion ventured off into that coo-coo land. It may be possible to have custody without handcuffs but I would say that handcuffs, however temporary, always equals custody.
THe opinion cites a few other circuits that also hold that handcuffs do not necessarily mean custody. It relies on part on the cop telling the guy he was not detained.
Very weak sauce, in my opinion. But apparently not unique to the Fifth Circuit.
What if they put him in a proson cell, lock the door, and tell him he’s not being detained on the way out?
Actually, no. It relied on the cop telling the guy that he was only being detained. Supposedly that makes interrogation less coercive.
There are many other outrageous whoppers in the opinion. For example:
Indeed, no reasonable person would tell an officer that he was “cool” or “fine” with being essentially arrested. And it is hard to conceive that a reasonable person, while handcuffed, would tell an officer that he “want[ed] to be real with [him]” if he thought he was already under arrest.
Actually many reasonable people would say exactly that kind of thing, especially after the cop had just finished threatening to tase them. And note that they are using his cooperative behavior during the arrest as evidence that he didn't think he was being arrested.
Here are rules they seem to be proposing:
1. The rules don't apply until you get to the station house. Could take some time to get there. Could be some onion fields, back alleys, etc along the way. All good places to ask some purely voluntary questions to the handcuffed interrogee while telling him you'd hate to have to tase him.
2. If you are cooperative, that shows it's not an arrest at all, so you have no rights incident to being arrested.
3. If you aren't cooperative....
4. If you actually did have contraband, you were being cooperative and not coerced. If you didn't, then there's no evidence to suppress. Ergo, Miranda warnings are never necessary.
Read past the first paragraph. Obviously, once he was in handcuffs, he was in custody. At issue are the statements he made prior to that point and whether he was "in custody" when he made them.
I apologize, I misread the case. Yes, I find it rather silly to suggest someone in handcuffs is not in custody, though in this case, I believe there was plenty of probable cause for a search anyway.
You're reading the OP differently than everyone else.
"Having been given reason to suspect that Coulter, who revealed an aggravated robbery conviction, had a gun, the officer handcuffed him and asked where it was."
Are you assuming that the "reason to suspect" he had a gun was he said, like "by the way I have a gun?" The rest of us are assuming if that was the reason, Paul would have said that, rather than leave it vague.
It sounds more like the officer handcuffed the guy and then asked, "Where's the gun that I suspect you have for some reason?"
But I don't know, maybe you have more information than the rest of us?
Does the fact that he had previously been convicted of armed robbery give probable cause to search for a firearm by itself? This article also misses the key question: why was the man pulled over and handcuffed in the first place? Even on released felons, this is a highly unusual action for a traffic stop.
This entire article seems to be missing major chunks, resulting in what seems to be a series of bizarre non-sequitors.
The 5th is full of it as to the custody part. What happens if Coulter says “I’m leaving now” and tried to drive away? No way he’s allowed to do so. That’s custody.
And you’re proposing giving more discretion to people who regularly abuse their discretion. No thank you.
How was he going to drive away? They literally had him handcuffed!
I think Judge Jones' concurrence is garbage, because no sane cop would, having handcuffed somebody, not understand them to be in custody, just as no sane person, handcuffed, would not understand themselves to be in custody.
It seems the 5th circuit is out to distinguish Miranda into insignificance.
I'm shocked — shocked — that Edith Jones wrote a pro-cop opinion. And I'm astonished to learn that Prof. Cassell approves.
This paragraph borders on gibberish:
So it's actually to people's benefit to be handcuffed and questioned! Uh huh. Pull the other one. This doesn’t even pretend to make sense. How does getting a confession out of people who are stopped limit car searches?
Yeah, for all the never times this actually happens outside of TV.
That "benefit" confused me too. Sounded like the "confess now and we can save you a lot of time" kind of nonsense which probably led to Miranda one way or another.
Maybe the judge thinks cops have been brainwashed into treating the Miranda warning as Pavlov's bell and will be automatically triggered into a full search just by hearing themselves say it. Poor cops! Won't criminals think of the poor cop children whose papa will be delayed in getting home because his training requires a full search!
Or in Judge Jones?
In the authors world is anybody ever innocent?
It's not great that Paul whores his integrity in his OP. Not surprising, given his pro-police and anti-4th-Amendment-protections views. But disappointing.
"What about adopting a flat rule that police must always give Miranda warnings when they handcuff someone? Judge Jones explained that "[o]fficers might be put to the choice of ensuring their own safety or conducting routine investigations."
This is just stupid. Hey, Judge Jones, I can solve your dilemma in 10 seconds.
1. If you are handcuffing a suspect, don't question him during this process.
2. Once suspect has been handcuffed and secured, resume your questioning. But...
3. BEFORE asking any more questions, first give the Miranda warnings.
There. Problem solved. Officers have zero increased risk to their personal safety. Suspects get the same normal amount of constitutional protection. The Fourth Amendment lives to see another day. You're welcome.
So the Miranda warning should become like what Hollywood portrays it, a creed to say every time you handcuff or arrest someone? That's not a bad solution, but that doesn't really address this issue.
I believe she's saying that by increasing the likelihood that the driver will disclose exactly where contraband is located at the outset, the officers can seize the contraband without tearing the car apart.
I am going to guess that you do not find this position very compelling.
Would or could one of you describe the difference (if any) as to being in custody and being under arrest?
Seems that in a situation as described in this case cuffing the suspect served to protect both parties.
Was the Indiana "good guy with a gun" in custody when he was cuffed while thing were sorted out?
I assume he was questioned. Do you know if he was Mirandized?
The other question was is custody the same as arrest?
Bumble,
No. "Arrested" is, obviously, different from "in custody." (If you are arrested, you are always in custody. If you are in custody, you might or might not have been arrested. Think of a suspect handcuffed and locked in the back of a police car. 100% in custody, but not yet arrested.)
Any *other* trivially easy questions?
What's your definition of "arrest", and on what authority? A person in the back of a squad car might not have been formally charged with any crime, but sources like https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/arrest make it clear that an array can happen without that kind of formality. Sources like https://manninglaw.com/blog/legal-arrest-requirements/ define an arrest as more or less identical with being detained: "You are considered to be under arrest when you reasonably believe that you are not free to leave. You do not have to be in handcuffs to be considered under arrest by law."
But while arrest and custody aren't the same thing in toto, for the purposes of Miranda they are.
Or, I guess I should say that the only difference is that cops and their enablers (like Judge Jones and Prof. Cassell) can sometimes pretend that someone in custody isn't, while it would be a tough row to hoe — even for them — to pretend that someone who has been formally arrested isn't.
Yes. Absolutely. If they’re in control of your movement, that’s custody.
Regardless of the merits of Judge Jones's proposed approach, how does one reconcile it with the actual instructions that the Supreme Court has given lower court judges?
Won't be the first time a circuit court has ignored the SC.
Could anyone point me toward a libertarian legal blog, or a libertarianish legal blog, or an often libertarian blog, or even a somewhat libertarian blog, at which one might find a libertarian perspective on this issue, rather than an authoritarian, right-wing "law and order" analysis at a movement conservative blog?
Thanks, (any) fellow libertarians!
Speaking of law and order, here is a feel-good story from the federal courts.
Rev, this blog was the best I could find. Any other libertarian-leaning comment board I read was a cesspool of hate and lies. At least the huckleberries here have the inditia of education
The record screams bullshit on any outfit that claims to be libertarian while featuring the likes of Baker, Blackman, and Cassell. These clingers can try to fool themselves with this garish, unconvincing libertarian masquerade but no one outside their disaffected, gullible, fringe circle buys any of it.
The Fifth Circuit held that a reasonable person in Coulter's position would not have thought that he was in custody for Miranda purposes. Moreover, the officer questioned Coulter in an environment that was not tantamount to a station house interrogation as contemplated by Miranda.
Then the 5th Circuit needs to be laughed out of the room.
And Jones' concurrence is worse. Does Cassell really find it "very persuasive?" Then he's an idiot too.
First, the cost of Miranda is not some hypothetical crime spree. It's the few seconds it takes the officer to read the warning.
But if you something chilling, consider this from Jones:
One potential price of premature Mirandizing would be to require broader vehicle searches, and thus broader invasions of privacy, because officers would likely lack voluntary admissions from suspects.
Can't have people exercising their Constitutional rights when stopped by the police, now, can we?
Well no... the cost in this case is making it less likely that a dangerous will be held appropriately accountable for the crimes he decided to commit by preventing the jury from hearing reliable evidence that he's guilty.
actually bernard11 is correct. Miranda is, in most cases, annoying and pointless, but it is a safeguard nonetheless. Brought about by decades of abuse to the contrary. What is so difficult about this explanation of rights?
And what's your opinion on whether the cost of the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendment is worth it?
I'm not offering an opinion on whether the costs are worth it: I'm offering an opinion on what the costs are.
The cost of Miranda is not the suppression of evidence. The cost of Miranda is a trivial 30 seconds.
The cost of failing to give the warning is the suppression of evidence.
Today is the first time I'm intrigued by something Behar said, which is, the suppression of evidence isn't required by the Constitution. It's just a deterrent. There could be better, less costly deterrents, especially directed against the officers. A $100 fine probably isn't it (too easily worked around), but automatic firing with loss of pension and a lifetime bar from law enforcement could work (with additional civil and criminal penalties for intentionally skipping the warning).
Behar is right about that. The reason the courts came up with suppression of evidence as a remedy for 4th and 5th amendment violations was that every other remedy was in the hands of the executive branch, which would reliably fail to put it into effect.
So, sure fines or firing would work just great, except that, in practice, they wouldn't be fined or fired, which is why we arrived at suppression of evidence: It was the only thing the courts could do on their own.
By this logic, there is a significant cost to prohibiting coercive, or even physically abusive, interrogation.
Here is a rule. Before interrogating a criminal suspect you must give him a quarter - twenty-five cents. Otherwise nothing he says will be admissible.
What is the cost of this rule?
Yes, of course there is—although much less than here on average, since those statements are also not reliable (unlike voluntary statements undertaken in violation of Miranda).
Are you suggesting that the only cost of your exclusionary rule is 25 cents per statement?
What he's pointing out is the larger cost (the exclusion) is super-easily avoidable. The police in his example can avoid it by paying $0.25. The police in the court case could have avoided it by devoting the first 30 seconds of their 15 minute interrogation to a Miranda warning.
You're saying even 30 seconds is asking too much. I guess that answers my question about how much you value the 5th Amendment.
Are you suggesting there's another cost?
What would that be?
1) Statements made without the quarter/warning would be inadmissible. But that's the cost of police noncompliance with the law, not the cost of the law.
2) Some suspects, after being given the quarter/warning, might decide not to talk. But if they refuse to talk only because they've been told that they are not required to, then the statement they would've otherwise given can't really be called voluntary at all, can it? They only gave it because they didn't know they had an option to say no.
I basically agree with you. The only cost of Miranda is the time necessary to give the speech, and that's trivial.
Are you suggesting that the only cost of your exclusionary rule is 25 cents per statement?
Let me give a precise answer. To start, imagine that we have a more onerous requirement - one that it will sometimes be impossible for the police to satisfy.
In a situation where it is impossible to do that the cost will be what you describe. Otherwise it will be the cost of meeting the requirement.
So the cost of the $.25 rule is (the probability the police can't produce $.25) times (your consequences) plus (the probability they can pay) times ($.25).
I'd say that sum is pretty close to $.25. And I'd further say that the cost of giving the Miranda warning is less than $.25.
Huh? The point to this article isn't the question of when the Miranda rule applies but the idea that my rights depend on the value to the government of violating them.
The probable cause here is laughable as well. The stop occurred at 2:41 am. Coulter denied having a gun or anything in the van, which he said wasn’t his, , but after a while admit that he had smoked marijuana in the van “a week ago and this morning”. Meaning almost 24 hours ago.
That statement and his “suspicious behavior” was the probable cause.
The exclusionary rule/miranda is already functionally dead. Invoking it on the side of the road during a traffic stop is good a way to get yourself shot.
The decade old arguments in James Duane's "Don't Talk to the Police" video still apply, but refusing anything during a traffic stop will just result in getting arrested or shot. They can search indecent to an arrest, so they'll just do that instead.
All that's left of the Miranda case is the interesting history of the original case and its use in popular culture and entertainment.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?420316-1/miranda
Excellent and appropriate substitution of indecent for incident.
Yep, ducksalad. Saw that too. Also Doug Heffernan's 'just comply or you'll get shot' assertion is quite amusing
It seems rather disingenuous to characterize a handcuffed individual as free to leave.
Naturally, no one is making that case. Before he was handcuffed, the officer explicitly said, "I am going to detain you." Obviously, at that point he was "in custody", but the issue in this case are the statements the defendant made BEFORE that point.
Which statements were made before he was handcuffed? According the OP, all the statements were made afterward.
I apologize, I misread the case. Yes, I find it rather silly to suggest someone in handcuffs is not in custody, though in this case, I believe there was plenty of probable cause for a search anyway.
It does seem like they could have said yes, the statements are inadmissible, but the search was justified anyway. Is that not possible for some reason?
Not only is it possible, it's what happened.
According to Paul, the statements were found to be admissible. Was he wrong?
On Monday, the Fifth Circuit decided an interesting Miranda case, allowing admission of a suspect's unwarned statements.
Paul, I've never seen the comments on this blog be so united against the original post as in this case. I don't see a single comment in your favor. This is a group of people who love nothing more than to snipe at each other, but you've managed to bring us all together. Even Behar (mostly) and Kirkland agree!
That's quite a feat of being completely, wildly, outrageously, Egregiously Wrong.
Isn't it nice that Paul could bring us all together this way? Except for Apedad being contrarian, I mean.
I think Miranda was wrong, but the whole point of it as a prophylactic is that if they aren't warned then the statement is legally involuntary. Doing a cost-benefit analysis makes zero sense and eviserates Miranda. An unwarned but voluntary statement would seem to mean no real cost, so the benefit of allowing the statement would obviously outweigh it. But that is exactly what Miranda says no to.
This is just a ridiculous argument by someone who thinks Miranda is wrong but can't do away with it, the law be damned. Well too bad. That is our judicial system. This is a fallacy that happens all too often by judges. They want to "preserve" the legitamacy of not overruling laws but putting in some exception that is completely at odds with the rule and swallows it whole. Have some integrity. If you want to overrule it say so but follow the law. If a Justice wants to overrule don't tap around what you are doing. Own it. This way is far more damaging.
Wonder if any of the reasonable people posting here have ever been detained by the police, either in a traffic stop or some other circumstance and what transpired?
Ok I'm going to buck the trend here and say the 5th got it (mostly) correct.
During the arrest (and that's THE key factor - the timing), law enforcement are allowed - and in fact are trained - to ask questions like, "Are you armed? or Do you have a weapon?"
This is for the safety of everyone involved and during the pat down of the detainee, an officer would find the weapon anyway so they're not really asking for information that they eventually won't get.
Again, it's the timing and procedures that are the factors; during the actual, physical arrest, some questioning is allowed mainly for safety reasons.
But as soon as the arrest turns into questioning about the suspected criminal activity, e.g., speeding, robbed a bank, etc., then Miranda must kick in.
This part, "Prematurely requiring Miranda warnings during traffic stops would also inhibit questioning that could assist in time-sensitive investigations, e.g., for kidnapping victims or terrorists," is garbage.
But in this case, possession of the gun WAS the suspected criminal activity; The cop knew at the time he asked the question that answering "yes" would be confessing a crime.
Miranda doesn't stop the cop from asking the question, and getting an answer; It just stops the answer from being admissible if he didn't give the warning. So the cop could have 'protected himself', it just would have lost him the case.
Asking about a gun was not, of course, the only question about possible criminal acts which the cop asked after 'detaining' him. He also asked if the guy had drugs, after lying that he wouldn't care if he had pot.
So, all it all, I think he actually WAS deliberately trying to elicit a confession here.
The law is settled that handcuffs, *by themselves* don't create custody in the context of a traffic stop, but courts usually (but not always) find custody where handcuffs are used. There is a much stronger argument IMHO that Miranda rights were not required because this was not "interrogation" per Quarles. Oddly, the government abandoned this argument on appeal.
Just one more time not to speak to the police
How are handcuffs, by themselves, insufficient for custody? Handcuffs mean you aren't free to leave.
I think the theory is that being temporarily detained (as with a traffic stop) is different than being in custody (as with an arrest). And that you can be put in handcuffs during a traffic stop without converting it from detention to custody. That seems very iffy to me, but it appears to be the thought process.
Yeah, they are trying to say that Miranda only applies when you are being held and questioned in a police facility ("station house"). Seems like B.S. to me. The 5th Amendment isn't location specific. Our rights are not location specific. We have an UNALIENABLE right to remain silent, to refrain from self-incrimination, to be represented by an attorney, etc. These rights are unalienable, no matter where we are being held and questioned.
THAT'S a dangerous precedent. Of course we can always justify ignoring people's rights by citing all of the benefits society gains from steamrolling over that individual's rights, or the great cost to society of honoring those rights. There are times that murderers or worse go free because the evidence against them was gathered without a warrant. That is a steep cost. But the greater cost is to live in a society where rights are seen as privileges that can be revoked or ignored when somebody decides they have a good reason to do so. The solution is not to suspend or ignore the rights of individuals, but to discipline police and prosecutors who fail to conduct their investigations properly, and to make the punishment severe enough that others will learn from the example and follow the legal course in their own investigations.
The concern I have is how exactly are judges to assign costs and benefits?
For instance, suppose there was only Marijuana involved in this case and the judge doesn't believe there is any benefit to marijuana prosecutions. Do they then assign a zero benefit for admitting the statement despite Miranda? That might seem absurd, but it would be equally absurd if the judge had to ignore the nature of the violation (e.g. but if you ignore the Miranda warning we'd never catch this speeder),
More generally, I don't see how you possibly implement this kind of suggestion without, effectively, giving judges authority to make fairly detailed policy judgements about the kind of policing that should be done.
Even if you limit the considerations to things like officer safety, and explicitly tie the 'benefit' of non-suppression to the sentencing level of the crime the judge is going to have to make some pretty involved judgements about the desirability of various police procedures. After all, it doesn't make sense to merely evaluate the facts of the case in front of the judge if the officers have adopted a pattern of behavior that violates Miranda rights in millions of cases and this is the one murder they happened to catch. So the judge is going to have to make judgements on the effectiveness of various police tactics, the danger involved in insisting on Miranda and the desirability of various alternatives.
In short, it seems like the kind of judicial injection into an essentially legislative role that's rarely a good idea.