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Federalism and the Respect for Marriage Act
Does the bipartisan act protecting same-sex marriage run afoul of constitutional federalism principles? The answer is definitely not with respect to one of its provisions, and probably not with respect to the other.
Yesterday, the House of Representatives passed the Respect for Marriage Act. The broad bipartisan support it got (47 Republicans joining all the Democrats) suggests it might well pass the Senate, too. The bill is primarily motivated by fears that the Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade in the Dobbs case also presages a reversal of Obergefell v. Hodges, the 2015 ruling striking down state laws barring same-sex marriage. For reasons I summarized here, I think that is highly unlikely to happen. See also co-blogger Dale Carpenter's analysis of that issue.
But let's assume Dale and I are wrong, and the Court does indeed go on to overrule Obergefell. In that event, the Respect for Marriage Act might face constitutional challenges on the grounds that it exceeds the scope of Congress' authority and intrudes into areas left to the control of state governments. Indeed, Dale and I (along with several other federalism scholars, including VC bloggers Randy Barnett and Jonathan Adler) filed an amicus brief in Windsor v. United States (2013) arguing that the earlier Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) - which enacted a federal definition of marriage limited to opposite-sex couples - exceeded the scope of congressional power. The Court's majority opinion in Windsor prominently cited our brief, though it adopted our argument only in part.
Could not similar federalism objections be successfully raised against the Respect for Marriage Act? It's an entirely legitimate question. The answer is "definitely not" with respect to the act's provisions that apply to the definition of marriage used in federal law, and "probably not" when it comes to the provision requiring states to recognize same-sex marriages contracted in other states.
Here is the key provision of Section 4 of the Act, establishing a new definition of marriage with respect to eligibility for various federal tax benefits and programs:
(a) For the purposes of any Federal law, rule, or regulation in which marital status is a factor, an individual shall be considered married if that individual's marriage is valid in the State where the marriage was entered into or, in the case of a marriage entered into outside any State, if the marriage is valid in the place where entered into and the marriage could have been entered into in a State.
(b) In this section, the term 'State' means a State, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or any other territory or possession of the United States.
Our federalism objection to Section 3 of DOMA was that it sought to use federal power to push for a uniform nationwide definition of marriage, thereby undermining the autonomy of the states, and pursuing an objective beyond the enumerated powers of Congress. By contrast, Section 4 of the Respect for Marriage Act does the exact opposite. It gives total deference to states' definition of marriage. If state law says that a given relationship qualifies as a marriage, that's good enough for Uncle Sam! Call it state autonomy on steroids.
If anything, Section 4 could be criticized for deferring to the states too much. Imagine if Utah or some other state decides to grant legal recognition to polygamous marriages. Section 4 would require the federal government to do the same. If a person has multiple spouses under state law, all of them could potentially be eligible for various federal tax deductions and other benefits that are reserved for married people (though they would also all be subject to the marriage "tax penalty"). Such hypotheticals don't much bother me. But I could imagine social conservatives and some feminists worrying about them (the latter because they might fear legal recognition of polygamy would lead to the subordination of women). Regardless, this slippery slope concern is not a constitutional federalism problem. It's a matter of policy.
It's worth emphasizing that Section 4 avoids federalism problems in large part because it does not actually compel states to recognize same-sex marriages, or indeed any other kind of marriages. It just says that if a state does recognize them, the federal government will, as well. In that respect, it falls short of offering the degree of protection for same-sex marriage that currently exists under Obergefell. It's also worth noting that state laws banning same-sex marriage can violate individual constitutional rights, even if the federal government lacks any general power to legislate on the definition of marriage. There is no contradiction between these two positions and I in fact hold both.
The federalism implications of the other key provision of the Respect for Marriage Act are more debatable. Section 3 requires states to recognize various types of marriages contracted in other jurisdictions, even if it doesn't itself allow people to enter into them:
(a) …. No person acting under color of State law may deny
(1) full faith and credit to any public act, record, or judicial proceeding of any other State pertaining to a marriage between 2 individuals, on the basis of the sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin of those individuals; or
(2) a right or claim arising from such a marriage on the basis that such marriage would not be recognized under the law of that State on the basis of the sex, race, ethnicity, or national origin of those individuals.
Unlike Section 4, this provision does require state governments to recognize some types of marriages they are opposed to. The ban on discrimination based on race, ethnicity, or national origin is easily justified based on Congress' powers under Section 5 of the Fourteenth Amendment, which allows "appropriate" legislation to enforce the antidiscrimination provisions of that same Amendment. Racial and ethnic discrimination in marriage law is unconstitutional under the Supreme Court's ruling in Loving v. Virginia (1967). Despite some scaremongering to the contrary, there is zero chance the Court will overrule Loving. No justice - including Clarence Thomas, who has explicitly defended Loving - has any desire to do that.
But if the Court overrules Obergefell, the requirement that states not discriminate on the basis of "sex" in recognizing out-of-state marriages might be challenged on federalism grounds. It then probably could not be justified based on Section 5. But it might well stand as an exercise of Congress' power to enforce the Full Faith and Credit Clause, which states:
Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.
The precise scope of states' obligations and Congress' powers under FFC is a matter of longstanding debate. VC co-blogger Steve Sachs, a leading expert on this subject, argues that states have broad discretion to refuse to recognize out-of-state marriages in the absence of federal law to the contrary, but that Congress also has broad power to compel such recognition. Legal scholar Steve Sanders has argued that states must recognize out-of-state marriages even if there is no specific congressional legislation requiring them to do so.
This is an area of some uncertainty. But, on balance, I think it likely that Congress can require recognition of marriages contracted in other states, even if states would not be compelled to grant it otherwise. As Sanders notes, marriage and child custody are precisely the kinds of important legal relationships where certainty and stability are especially important. Achieving that kind of certainty and stability is one of the key reasons why the Full Faith and Credit Clause was inserted into the Constitution to begin with. And FFC also gives Congress specific power to enact "general Laws" defining and enforcing the scope of state obligations under the Clause. It doesn't have to be inferred from ultra-broad readings of other congressional powers. There is therefore a solid defense of this provision from the standpoint of textualism and originalism, the kinds of methodologies that appeal to the conservative majority on the Court.
That said, I am no expert on full faith and credit. So I am much less sure about my conclusion on this part of the Act than Section 4. In the unlikely event that Obergefell gets overruled in the aftermath of Congress passing the Respect for Marriage Act, the full faith and credit issue might well lead to litigation.
UPDATE: It's worth noting that the Respect for Marriage Act includes a severability provision. Thus if courts were to invalidate Section 3, Section 4 will be unaffected (and vice versa).
UPDATE #2: Prof. Steve Sanders has sent me comments on the full faith and credit issue raised in this post, which I have posted (with his permission) here.
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Government (at any level, but especially federal) involvement in marriage is unconstitutional.
Government is involved because of government distortions that created problems, and now need to be 'fixed'. As usual, government solutions to government problems make the problems worse
Yet another rent seeking lawyer lie imposed on us at the point of a gun. The Family Law business was dying. Only a suicidal fool would get married today, given the unstoppable attacks and plunder of the lawyer profession on the assets of the productive party (sometimes the female). The lawyer is not even a feminist. He will go after the female if she is making the money.
So they had a scheme to marry people with unstable relationships, males. This was a lawyer idea, not a homosexual idea. The homosexual is smart and has above average income and assets. They have not fallen for this sick delusion. Very few have fallen into that trap.
Say, there are a 20 million adult homosexuals. Only 1 million have fallen for this lawyer trick. That is true around the world, where homosexual marriage has been legal before it was in the US.
The lash is a good remedy for rent seeking after it is criminalized.
This scheme failed. The rate of divorce is about the same as with heterosexual marriage.
Ilya is just a Democrat attack running dog. Dismissed. I do not understand Dale, who may be a homosexual, and a traitor to homosexual interests.
The lawyer behind this fake claim deserves the lash. It is high time to bring the lash back as a cheap, , immediate, effective punishment.
https://nypost.com/2022/07/20/ricky-martin-to-testify-against-nephew-in-incest-sex-crime-case/?lctg=607d90f2373dd11b6ec10b87
Why?
That's not an originalist argument, Article IV states:
"Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof."
Marriage certificates certainly are a public record, and I can't see any constitutional provision that would prohibit the states from issuing and maintaining birth and marriage certificates. And the states certainly regulated marriage at the founding.
Once you concede states can sanction marriages the full faith and credit clause gives Congress some authority to regulate how the states must recognize the records and acts of other states.
The states did NOT regulate marriages at the founding, at least not all of them. The marriages were solemnized by the churches. The 'licenses' were more an official recognition post facto, too.
"at least not all of them".
Good thing you are a Dr. not a lawyer.
So clearly it was constitutional at the founding.
Now once any state recognizes and records marriages then the full faith and credit clause is operative if Congress passes appropriate legislation.
How ever I will concede any state that wants to deinstitutionalize marriage would be free to do so, if they don't recognize or license marriage in their own state, they don't have to take notice of any other states marriages either.
I sympathize with the position that government (at any level) should get out of the business of marriage. There's a lot going for that policy position.
However, not every bad idea is unconstitutional. How specifically is government entanglement in secular marriages a violation of the Constitution?
Call me when "libertarians" start telling this to straight married couples un-prompted.
But when you only say this when the topic is gay folk, and never in regards to the other 95% of marriages? Then no one is fooled: you're just an asshole.
So, all you supposed Republicans who can remember saying "DOMA is enough" when there were the votes to get a constitutional amendment concerning marriage out of Congress in the 90's or early 2000's, had did that awesome strategic decision work out for ya?
Aren't you the same clown who made this claim just yesterday...
There is no single state that does not enforce a "gun free zone" in pretty much every K-12 setting (with only very small exceptions for say a parent WITH a permit who is ONLY picking up a kid and might be sitting in the parking lot). There is no state in this Union, again with very few exceptions where highly trained professionals might be carrying, that allow students, faculty, or staff to carry firearms on the premises.
...and then disappeared when it was explained just how full of shit that claim was?
Yeah I said that and, despite your clown like assertions, no one proved me wrong.
Please give me this supposed list of schools where everyone is carrying a firearm legally? You are going to be looking for a long time because it doesn't exist.
Yes - some states (a very few) permit, some schools, to adopt programs that allow for some professionals to take training classes and then be permitted to carry a firearm on school property. The actual number of schools that allow this though is exceptionally small. And most states have declared K-12 schools to be "gun free zones" for almost any other purpose usually with increased criminal penalties.
If you want to see a clown just go look in the mirror.
Yeah I said that and, despite your clown like assertions, no one proved me wrong.
Multiple posters, including me proved you wrong in direct response to your post and provided you with all of the information there. Your response was to disappear because apparently, in addition to being ignorant and dishonest you're also a coward.
Please give me this supposed list of schools where everyone is carrying a firearm legally?
"everyone" carrying a firearm isn't even close to what the subject was, you dishonest piece of crap. And there are multiple states where non-professional (non-LEO, non-security, etc) civilians are allowed to carry in public schools, and they were identified for you in response to your assertion, you dipshit.
There is a big difference between people that work in a school and teach kids being allowed to carry and a parent picking up their kid or going to an incidental meeting. No one proved me wrong. In fact, they all proved me rather right. Even in states that do permit teachers and staff to carry, under very strict regulations, they must generally meet the same training requirements as law enforcement.
Coupled with your inane, non-sensical response above, it is clear that you have chosen to live your life being fat, drunk, and stupid. Sir, that is no way to live a life.
The responses that you were apparently too cowardly, too stupid...or both...to bother reading included states where anyone who is legally able to carry a handgun being able to do so in schools (for instance, New Hampshire).
You're not to be taken seriously.
Notice how the people in charge literally shut the whole world down for two weeks to stop the spread of COVID, but won't ask homosexuals to stop high-risk gay sex for two weeks to stop the spread of monkey-pox?
Apparently the most sacred thing on the entire planet, which overrules the constitution and any SCOTUS decisions, is butt-sex.
Butt sex. Filthy, disease spreading, degenerate butt sex.
Satan is real.
You seem awfully fixated on homosexuality.
Is Monkey Pox a public health crisis?
If you are a gay man, maybe. Last numbers I saw were just under 2000 cases in US.
Will Fauci be recommending masking up your junk if you are gay?
Monkey pox is spread by any physical proximity to a monkey pox rash or sore. Gay men may have been the first group infected but it’s easily enough transmissible that that’s not going to remain the case for long.
Why aren't they demanding gays stop having high-risk gay sex to "stop the spread"?
Because it’s spread through casual contact. Try to keep up.
It's spread through casual contact but only gay men are spreading it?
How do gay men casually contact each other different than the rest of us?
I suspect gay men greet one another with hugs and kisses more often than straight men do, but that aside, gay men are the group where the disease first caught a foothold. It's already started to spread to other groups. A month from now your information will be totally inaccurate.
Disrespect for Marriage Act is much more accurate.
" Disrespect for Marriage Act is much more accurate. "
That's the way our vestigial bigots see it -- at the white, male Volokh Conspiracy; in the Republican Party; at the Federalist Society; in the desolate stretches of Ohio; and in other spots popular among gay-bashing culture war casualties.
Why is wanting to be married disrespectful?
And in any event, preventing gay and lesbian couples from marrying shows greater disrespect for them. On a balance between disrespecting A's opinion, and disrespecting B as a person, the former is the graver offence.
Because they were never prevented from marrying. They were prevented from changing the definition of marriage to suit their disorder.
They were prevented from marrying who they wanted to. The definition was not a definition of necessity and why should the definition not be changed when the existing definition enshrines bigotry?
It sure can be. But it should be changed by the political process, not by drunken Irish Catholic supreme court judges.
These hayseeds see it as disrespectful because someone -- was it Bugs Bunny . . . or John Blutarsky . . . or Jesus Christ . . . or Arthur Kirkland . . . or Frank Galvin -- well, it was one of those fictional characters -- said that good people should treat gays like dirt.
Or maybe the make-believer didn't even say that, but the prudes who can't sift fiction from reality figure he must have said it, or something.
Carry on, gullible, superstitious, bigoted clingers.
The LATTER is the graver offence
"Why is wanting to be married disrespectful? "
They are not really getting married, its a faux "marriage".
They want us to approve, not merely ignore or tolerate, their peccadilloes.
It debases real marriage. As a result, we have seen an over a 25% drop off in marriage rates since Tony K's decision.
If Tom can marry Harry, Dick and Mary increasingly see no reason to get married.
LOL. Marriage rates hit a recent peak in the years after Obergefell. They collapsed during Covid.
If Tom can marry Harry, Dick and Mary increasingly see no reason to get married.
I opposed Obergefell because it was it was shitty con law, but favor legalized SSM as good public policy. Anything that provides stability and at least encourages monogamy is good. I also find the idea that a committed heterosexual couple would "see no reason to get married" just because a homosexual couple can do the same to be one of the most bizarre assertions I've ever heard. Are you under the impression that the primary reason to get married is to become part of some semi-exclusive club or something? Are you married? If so, did your legal union suddenly become worthless because gay people were able to enter into one too?
The whole point of marriage was to provide a stable environment for raising children. If it's purely a legal arrangement so that two people can play house, why bother?
That is not, in fact, "the whole point of marriage."
The whole point of marriage was to provide a stable environment for raising children. If it's purely a legal arrangement so that two people can play house, why bother?
That's some pretty bizarre reasoning. SSM becoming legal has precisely ZERO impact on the effect of legal straight marriages. Are you married? If so, what changed wrt your marriage following Obergefell?
With all of the back and forth blah-blah, why is the "rule of two" (my wife's phrase) such a religious principle in the US?
If three people want to get married, why should the State stop them?
If three people want to get married, why should the State stop them?
This is where language gets people off-track on this issue. In reality the issue is not "marriage". It's state sanctioning of marriage, which exists for the purpose of furthering what the state deems to be good social policy. If three people want to live together and declare themselves to be "married" by whatever authority they recognize then they certainly should be able to do so (and can in most cases, if I'm not mistaken). They just won't enjoy the benefits (or the disadvantages) of having their arrangement sanctioned by the state, because the state has determined (rightly or wrongly) that such arrangements do not further its public policy goals.
if Tom marrying Harry means that Dick and Mary don't want to get married, then they probably shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.
Or to put it another way... gay marriage only threatens your straight marriage if you'd rather be in a same-sex marriage.
Why is marriage restricted to pairs of unrelated adults who claim to be in love?
Because Sister Wives didn't do a good enough job of making people sympathetic to polygamists.
In the end, the problem isn't homosexual marriage. The problem is their sex.
The bans should never have been on granting marriage certificates to gay couples, but on prohibiting men from having anal sex with other men, whether in a marriage or not.
Why is government marriage restricted to exactly two people?
I mean I get why a society would promote natural marriage; it produces the best outcomes for themselves and for their children.
But now that government marriage is exactly two people, what purpose does it serve and why must serving that purpose exclude all other romantic and aromantic configurations?
Because in the 1800s people thought Mormons were icky.
Lesbians are cool, though? I guess probably because you're into that kind of porn.
(As a historical/legal matter, Lawrence precedes Obergefell by over a decade so not sure why you think your strategy would be more effective.)
No, lesbians are not cool. But their sex doesn't spread HIV the way gay male sex does. 25% of gay men are HIV+. Do you not see something wrong with that?
We have to pretend that's not true because the dignity of homosexuals is the literal most important thing in the entire world.
And Muslims.
"lesbians are cool, though?"
HOT lesbians are cool. Not the shrill, butch, bowl cut ones though.
I respect marriage by not engaging in it. My first and only marriage was to such a shrew and a backstabber and a gaslighter -- an incompetent parent who successfully desired our children to become sociopaths -- that I became permanently soured to marriage. So for the next 38 years I shacked up. The first shackup was lots of fun and fascinating. She threatened to sue me for breach of promise to marry. I had found out she was carrying on unsafe dalliances with previous sex partners and had a napoleonic ego, so that marriage prospect was out.
Then I shacked up with a dangerous psychopath for two years who because of her scattered private equipment, rule of thumb, etc., was incapable of fully enjoying sexual pleasure. Besides, the woman was hyper-vain, promiscuous, and pure evil. Pretty but wicked, and she had abandoned her children, and tried to stab me with a long sharp set of barber's scissors.
Then I shacked platonically for the last three decades. Better than marriage. Men are dangerous, but women are homicidal.
The real rankling in this context involves the bigots of the Republican Party, conservatism, and the Federalist Society.
By the time Obergefell rolled around, over 20 of the 30 state bans on SSM also banned civil unions, domestic partnerships, and other such arrangements.
So nope. Conservatives rejected the "compromise", and made sure that it was an all-or-nothing deal.
And, of course, that's ignoring that civil unions had no federal recognition, so even where they existed, they still didn't work as advertised.
You seem to have missed the point, that being his snide and obnoxiously arrogant tone in the post above, coming so soon (yesterday, not "years ago") on the heels of an equally arrogant...and thoroughly ignorant statement. This is a regular thing for him. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of it.
I saw your reply as not wanting to acknowledge that, or debate that, and pointing out how wrong he is about something else instead.
Then you saw it incorrectly.
Not so sure about that
Even after having the point of my response explained to you? Sorry, I can't help you then.
Go ahead and respond to his point then.
There was no "point". It was just obnoxious snark based on another bullshit claim. There were not "the votes to get a constitutional amendment concerning marriage out of Congress in the 90's or early 2000's". Nothing was even introduced in the '90s. The one introduced in the Senate in 2004 died there without even making it past a simple majority cloture vote, and the House one in 2005 died there with just over 55% of votes in support (2/3 needed).
Anything else?
Just to make the point clearer, there were also similar amendments introduced in Congress in 2002, 2003, 2006, 2008, 2013 and 2015. None of them had "the votes".
You are not very good with the whole knowing how things work, are you?
First off, if the party would have pushed the issue there were the votes for it to clear both Houses. The Senate would have been close, but at the time there were enough "blue dog" Democrats (or whatever you want to call a Dem that used to exist who didn't completely drink the kool-aid) that would have voted for such an amendment if it was pressed. Part of the reason why it never cleared procedural hurdles is precisely because the Republican Party dismissed the idea so of course those in the margins are not going to waste the political capital. It was only unpopular with some because it was not a political priority, not because there was some inherent flaw with the public policy design that was a primary objection.
Second, if you bothered to do any kind of research you would find that there was sufficient polling data that suggested at least in the 2000's it probably had enough votes if it was a legislative priority. Yeah it was going to be tight in the Senate, with the possibility of losing by 1-2 votes but it could have happened. To put it in further context this is also when at least the dems gave lip service to marriage. Even Obama had not drunk the kool-aid at that point in time.
My entire point was the failure to knock it through while the votes were probably there was a huge strategical error by people who are supposed "conservative". If you couldn't see that, well then you are just a plain old clown.
Thanks for that long-winded proof that my original response was the correct one.
If you think that, well, no point....
LOL! It actually went to a floor vote (in the House) at least once, and it failed. And every other time it couldn't even make it that far. And yet somehow you thing "there were the votes".
You do understand how a constitutional amendment becomes a law, don't you? I ask because I don't think you do.
You do understand how a constitutional amendment becomes a law, don't you? I ask because I don't think you do.
Obviously I understand it better than you do, seeing as how I explicitly cited the 3/4 majority vote required (in both houses) via the Congressional route.
Correction...2/3 majority (posting before coffee).
When you remove the religious aspects of marriage from historical cases, you're left with contracts.
"Marriage" can mean whatever your church wants it to mean! Catholics can say a Catholic marriage is between a man and a women, and is all about making and raising kids.
Meanwhile, the Church of Universal Love can say that marriage is about nonjudgmental spiritual sharing and ignore sex and kids entirely.
The government should not be involved in those decisions. The fact that this would be a fairly new approach doesn't change that.