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Florida Supreme Court Reaffirms Rejection of Identity-Based Quotas for Continuing Legal Education Programs
From In re: Amendment to Rule Regulating the Florida Bar 6-10.3, decided Thursday by the Florida Supreme Court:
Earlier this year, the Court amended the Rules Regulating the Florida Bar to preclude continuing legal education credit for "any course submitted by a sponsor, including a section of The Florida Bar, that uses quotas based on race, ethnicity, gender, religion, national origin, disability, or sexual orientation in the selection of course faculty or participants." Although the amendment took effect immediately, the Court invited comments from interested persons.
Having reviewed those comments, we have decided to modify the rule amendment in two limited respects. First, in deference to Florida Bar members who planned their 2021 CLE activities in reliance on the preamendment status quo, we postpone the effective date of the rule amendment until January 1, 2022. Second, we amend the text to clarify that CLE credit will be unavailable for courses with any sponsor that uses quotas covered by the rule, whether course approval is sought by the sponsor or by an individual bar member….
The Court amended rule 6-10.3 in response to a "Diversity & Inclusion CLE Speaker Panel Policy" that the Business Law Section of the Florida Bar adopted on September 1, 2020. For ease of reference, we have attached that policy to this opinion as Appendix B.
On its face, the policy "will require" CLE program panels to include a minimum number of "diverse" members, depending on the size of the panel. And on its face, the policy defines diversity in terms of a person's membership in "groups based upon race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability and multiculturalism." The Business Law Section has rescinded this policy, but only as a response to our rule amendment. The Section informs us that, if the Court were to revoke the rule amendment, the Section would reinstate the policy.
The Business Law Section modeled this policy on a similar policy of the American Bar Association. The ABA adopted its own policy after finding that ABA entities had "fail[ed] to comply" with the organization's "aspirational policy" that all CLE panels include "diverse members of our profession." The ABA uses the term "diverse members of our profession" to describe "women, racial and ethnic minorities, persons with disabilities, and persons of differing sexual orientations and gender identities."
When we adopted the rule amendment, we described the Business Law Section's policy as imposing "quotas." The label fits: as a matter of ordinary usage, the term "quota" includes "[a] number or percentage, especially of people, constituting a required or targeted minimum." The Section's policy requires a minimum percentage of "diverse" CLE program panelists. In doing so, the policy necessarily caps the allowable percentage of nondiverse panelists.
Our decision also said that "[q]uotas based on characteristics like the ones in this policy are antithetical to basic American principles of nondiscrimination." The policy treats people differently (i.e., discriminates) based on their membership in groups defined by "race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, disability and multiculturalism." Our laws consider it presumptively wrong to discriminate on these grounds—especially when government does the discriminating, but also in many contexts involving discrimination by private entities.
We reject the notion that quotas like these cause no harm. Quotas depart from the American ideal of treating people as unique individuals, rather than as members of groups. Quotas are based on and foster stereotypes. And quotas are divisive. "It would be a sad day indeed, were America to become a quota-ridden society, with each identifiable minority assigned proportional representation in every desirable walk of life."
In deciding whether and how to address the Business Law Section's policy, we reached two basic conclusions: first, that it would be wrong for the Court to turn a blind eye to this sort of discrimination; and second, that any regulatory response should address the use of discriminatory quotas by any CLE course sponsor, regardless of its affiliation with The Florida Bar. This Court has limited authority over the policies of entirely private entities, and rightly so. But we do have the authority—and, we think, a duty—to disassociate The Florida Bar's CLE infrastructure from entities with discriminatory quota policies like the one here.
This Court is firmly committed to the principles of nondiscrimination and equal opportunity for all. Consistent with that commitment, we support proactive measures to ensure that individuals from all backgrounds are afforded fair opportunities to participate in CLE programs and in the legal profession more generally. Inclusivity is a laudable goal, and it can be achieved without resorting to discriminatory quotas….
With a handful of exceptions, the forty-plus comments the Court received in response to the rule amendment were negative. But we respectfully disagree with the opponents' principal objections, and we will explain why….
Whether the policy causes harm. Many commenters object to our labeling the Business Law Section's and the ABA's policies as "quota" policies. These commenters further maintain that, labels aside, the policies harm no one and are intended to include rather than to exclude. We have no doubt that supporters of the policies at issue genuinely see things this way.
But we already have explained why it is correct, as a matter of standard English, to describe these policies as imposing quotas. We also have explained our view that quotas harm individuals and society. Again, quotas ignore each person's uniqueness and innate worth; promote stereotyping; and sow division.
We note that, on their face, the Business Law Section and ABA policies make no attempt to connect a person's "diversity" to the subject matter or educational content of the CLE program. The ABA's submission to the Court indicates that it administers its diversity requirement this way: "Program planners ask potential speakers to voluntarily answer the following question: Do you identify yourself as diverse?" A person's answer to this question is then used to determine how to categorize a person (nondiverse or diverse) for purposes of compliance with the diversity policy. This approach smacks of stereotyping or naked balancing; it does not invite a "holistic" assessment of whatever unique perspective an individual might bring to a panel.
Importance of the ABA's CLE programs. Many commenters praised the content and value of the ABA's CLE programming and bemoaned the rule amendment's effect on that programming. Of course, our rule amendment does not prohibit anyone from attending an ABA CLE program or from partnering with the ABA. Nonetheless, we acknowledge the concerns of those commenters who would like to receive CLE credit for their attendance at ABA- sponsored or cosponsored programs. We sincerely hope that the ABA will solve this problem by abandoning its quota policy and pursuing its diversity-related goals without resorting to discriminatory quotas—something that institutions throughout our society have shown themselves able to do….
Justice Labarga dissented:
… I am persuaded that the [Business Law Sction] policy is not discriminatory because, as illustrated by the sheer scope of the policy's definition of diversity, the intent is to include, not exclude, CLE panel participants… [In the words of] the ABA, which argued regarding its policy (after which the Business Law Section's policy was modeled):
The ABA's approach is neither a "quota" nor a preference system that would fail under the United States Supreme Court's equal protection case law. The essence of the Court's cases is that quotas cannot be used to infringe on legally protected interests—and the Diversity & Inclusion Policy infringes on no one's protected interests.
There are no "set asides" or reserved seats for certain categories of individuals. In the rare instance in which a panelist who brings diversity could not be located, the ABA is empowered to grant a waiver for an individual program. More typically, however, an individual who brings diversity has been identified–and then added to the CLE panel. No panel members are displaced or replaced under the Diversity & Inclusion Policy's aegis. There is thus no interest of any individual to be protected from the policy.
The Business Law Section of the Florida Bar also explained regarding its now-rescinded policy:
Any program that has two or fewer panelists does not need to consider diversity as a factor. It is only when there are three or more panelists on a program that diversity consideration come[s] into play. And even then, if the benchmarks identified in the policy for programs with three or more speakers cannot be met, the Section may waive the CLE Diversity Policy or make an exception to it. Because the policy allows for waivers, appeals, exceptions, and is not required for all programs, it is, by definition, not mandatory. For all these reasons, the CLE Diversity Policy is appropriate, narrowly tailored, and served a compelling interest….
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As the AMA, the ABA is a far left organization that is woke. It is worthless in its advocacy for the profession. Only the tiniest fraction of professionals are members, like 20% that are the lunatic fringe. This garbage organization should lose all government recognition.
"Program planners ask potential speakers to voluntarily answer the following question: Do you identify yourself as diverse?"
What a weird question. How can a particular individual be "diverse"; By having a multiple personality disorder?
"Diverse" in this sense is a neologism.
And because to become a Supreme Court Judge you have to go through a law school, and law schools are eating up this nonsense, in a generation nobody on the Supreme Court will think it's wrong to exclude straight white male oppressors.
They seem to be in the Behar school of rhetoric, as in "you should be replaced with a diverse".
A diverse is far worse than the n word. It includes freaks, scary clowns, degenerates, crippled people, you know, people like Queenie.
I have been banned from Nextdoor for using the word, diverse. Everyone knows what it refers to.
Shocker.
"What a weird question. How can a particular individual be "diverse"; By having a multiple personality disorder?"
I'm diverse, but I'm not. The third me is not sure, still thinking about it.
You contain multitudes.
We all resent that!
No, we don't!
And let's not forget that old poem:
Roses are red;
violets are blue;
I'm multi personality;
and so am I.
Are Slavs diverse?
They're in a gray area. They suffer some of the disadvantages of not being fully white (Polish jokes, pretext stops, slaughtered by Nazis) without being a recognized victim group.
Yes. I am diverse. [My opinions diverge from yours.]
Yes. I am diverse. I'm the only lawyer here without a license.
Yes. I am diverse. I'm actually the next messiah.
...
Every individual is diverse from every other individual in some sense, and the individual is the smallest minority. Everybody should answer "YES" to that question. If they had a more specific version of diverse in mind, burden is on them to spell it out.
Well, in any case, they have to ask. They dare not assign anyone a checkmark for any category lest they be wrong and become the next victim of outrage.
Even a correct judgement the individual might agree with could stir outrage if the individual has decided to not take advantage of such categorization at some moment for some issue.
We're all individuals!
I'm not.
This does show how the ABA has beclowned itself. It's policy is beyond parody.
Just finished reading this book:
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1634312023/reasonmagazinea-20/
The thinking "woke" / SJW worldview / ideology in general is beyond parody.
I am curious if you support the ABA accreditation of law schools, as assigned by the Department of Justice.
Like a garden overrun with weeds, it takes constant care to pull these wicked ideas out by the root. Good job.
Justice Labarga:
You can't include without simultaneously excluding. They are the two faces of the same coin. Inclusion is "intended" to bring in people who would have been excluded; thereby "unintentionally" excluding others who would have been included.
It is stretching plausibility to pretend he does not know this, but give him the benefit of the doubt; he is merely stupid rather than mendacious.
His point, as I take it, is that it's usually possible to add in an extra panelist or two, so it's not a zero-sum game in the way college admissions or jobs are. The event organizers can put together the event they want, then go in and add the diverse speakers after to make the numbers work, meaning no one is being excluded from a slot they would have gotten in the absence of the rule.
How someone can claim that this would improve race relations—or deny that this system is a quota—is a more difficult question.
That may be his reasoning, but it is the typical bollocks government reasoning. Oh we'll just add a bit more here, a bit more there, it's no cost to us, must be no cost to anybody. It's bollocks.
I think you are being more generous than the comment deserves. Adding an extra panelist or two means each gets less time actually talking and sharing the expertise that's supposed to be why we want to listen to them in the first place. The conference has a fixed amount of time so, yes, it is still a zero-sum game.
Could you theoretically expand the conference time to accommodate any desired level of panelists? Sure - and you could also theoretically expand college admissions to infinity. However, as a practical matter, those are both essentially fixed which means inevitable trade-offs between speakers and students respectively.
His point, as I take it, is that it's usually possible to add in an extra panelist or two, so it's not a zero-sum game in the way college admissions or jobs are.
But it's a poor point, because it is in fact a zero sum game. Because if you can add a couple of "diverses" without clogging the panel too much, then you could just as well add a couple of oppressors. Hence the extra diverses are crowding out the extra oppressors.
I have to say though that this is just whac-a-mole unless you define the rule as forbidding taking race etc into account at all. Because you can avoid quotas per se, and have weightings and balancing factors and all the other magic tricks that arrive at the result you want.
Another thing that is wrong with this whole thing is that the sole focus is on whether it is discrminatory or a quota, or not.
But even apart from that, who says that "diversity," however defined, leads to better legal education?
If I want to learn about, say, the latest developments in ERISA or patent law, I want the best experts in those fields teaching the course. If I want to learn the best techniques for taking a deposition or cross-examining an expert witness, I want the best trial lawyers available.
The best way to get more diversity is to encourage "diverse" lawyers to become expert in their legal niches. Otherwise, I fail to see what this adds to CLE.
"who says that "diversity," however defined, leads to better legal education?"
There's no reason to suppose that it does, but the goal here isn't to advance legal education. They basically don't mind degrading legal education in pursuit of their real objective.
The real objective isn't "diversity", either. That's just an excuse for displacing merit, and diverting the institution away from its original objectives.
The actual goal is just advancing the left's ideological aims, and 'diversity' is just an excuse to advance them. But you'll notice that 'diverse' individuals are never regarded as contributing to 'diversity' if their politics aren't left-wing.
Dude, we're talking about mandatory CLE. Rent seeking by CLE providers. If it were useful, they wouldn't need to make it mandatory. We take the classes to fulfill the requirements. If we wanted to learn about the latest developments in ERISA or patent law, we'd probably read about it, or speak to another lawyer who was more of an expert.
Not all mandatory CLE is useless. Just 90% of it. I do agree it is a scam.
In NY, you can fulfill half your credits by publishing, in any journal for other lawyers. Publishing is a good marketing took, so I have used my publications each 2-year cycle to get half the credits.
For the other half, there are plenty of cheap on-line courses you can watch and listen to* on your computer. There is one company that offers all 24 necessary bi-annual credits for $ 75.
(*Some unethical lawyers, I hear, just mute it and put it at the bottom of their screen. Not that I am suggesting that, just saying.)
Yes, I am aware. I routinely do that. But unfortunately I'm also admitted in NJ, and NJ requires that half of your 24 biannual credits be live and in person. No other format — not recorded, not streaming, not live webinar — is permitted. (This was thankfully suspended b/c of COVID. Unfortunately, 2020 was the first time in the history of ever that I didn't procrastinate until the end of the year. I took an all-day live CLE on March 5, 2020. This is why you should never do today what you can put off until tomorrow.)
As an aside, NY for a long time required 24 credits every two years, of which 4 credits had to be in legal ethics and professionalism.
A couple of years ago, they added a requirement that one credit be in "Diversity, Inclusion and Elimination of Bias" courses. Now if that is not rent-seeking, I don't know what is.
I can see some value in a refresher in "Diversity, Inclusion and Elimination of Bias", if only to keep up with the current talking points.
Demanding that everyone be treated fairly is clearly racist.
Or is it sexist?
Or genderist?
Oh, what the hell.
Imposing a quota is hardly demanding that everyone be treated fairly. If anything, it's the categorical opposite.
Your sarcasm detector needs a new battery.
I call Poe's law. I've seen people actually say such things and mean it.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by their character."
Anyone who is for racial quotas is an enemy of Dr King's dream.
After all, this policy judges people ONLY by the color of their skin or what is between their legs. It completely ignores the content of their character.
There are few things I am willing to put this label to, but these activists are genuinely evil. They are working against Dr King's dream while pretending to follow his teachings.
You cannot convince me otherwise.
They argue that you're taking that quote out of context and that if you actually read King properly you'd see he agrees that discrimination based on skin color is an inherent good.
Our country used to have another type of quota system - one for white men - but that was "bad" so it was done away with decades ago. I fail to see on a moral/philosophical basis how having a quota system for any other class of people is not similarly a bad thing...
Observations about diversity from a White, male, tone-deaf, right-wing blog -- and from the stale commenters such a forum attracts -- are always a treat!
Argumentum ad hominem concessio est infirmitatis.
I figure the bigots around here don't like to have attention directed to the remarkably White, strikingly male nature of this right-wing blog.
Tough.
I imagine the educational institutions involved aren't thrilled to have their franchises associated with this thing, either.
What's that, Mick?