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Vaping in the Shadow Docket
An electronic cigarette manufacturer seeks a stay of FDA action from the Supreme Court.
On November 12, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit rejected an electronic cigarette manufacturer's application of a stay of the Food and Drug Administration's order rejecting its application seeking approval of some of its vaping products. Now that e-cigarette company, Breeze Smoke, has filed an emergency application for a stay with Justice Kavanaugh.
As Breeze Smoke's application points out, the Sixth Circuit's decision conflicts with one from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit, which granted a similar stay application to another manufacturer of vaping products (often called electronic nicotine delivery systems or "ENDS"), and harshly criticized the FDA's arbitrary and inconsistent decision-making. Indeed, the Sixth Circuit acknowledged that it disagreed with the Fifth Circuit's assessment of the FDA's conduct.
While it is possible that there are substantive differences between the relevant product applications, the FDA did not engage in the sort of review expected of a regulatory agency. (Indeed, the Sixth Circuit faulted the FDA, but just did not find the deficiencies to be great enough to justify a stay.) Thus, Breeze Smoke is able to argue, with some justification, that whether individual e-cigarette manufacturers were able to obtain a stay of their FDA denials was a function of which circuit they filed in. (Another manufacturer obtained a stay in the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, while a similar stay application was also denied by the Ninth Circuit.) Further, as I noted here, the FDA has also rescinded its rejection of applications from some other manufacturers, magnifying the inconsistent treatment manufacturers are receiving.
It is understandable why Breeze Smoke has gone to the Supreme Court. The FDA's rejection of e-cigarette product applications is a big deal for e-cigarette companies. Without FDA approval, they cannot market their products to consumers. For major tobacco companies, on the other hand, such denials are less significant, as they can continue to sell their other tobacco products, such as combustible cigarettes, which are significantly more dangerous.
The question for the Supreme Court is whether the arbitrary and inconsistent treatment of e-cigarette manufacturers by the FDA, and the inconsistent rulings on stay applications by different circuits, justify emergency relief on the shadow docket. There is already a circuit split on the remedial question of whether a stay is justified, and this could well foreshadow a substantive circuit split over the FDA's underlying conduct. The question for the Court (or, in the first instance, for Justice Kavanaugh) is whether this justifies intervention now.
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Vaping in the Shadow Docket
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If Kavanaugh rules against FDA, might the FDA then decide to simply ban all vaping devices, because they don’t have the resources (or are too lazy) to review each of the thousands of vaping products on the market?
And of course they never liked vaping
Probably has more to do with undercutting that sweet sweet tobacco settlement revenue stream than anything else.
But I'm sure that's not anything a few campaign contributions couldn't overcome.
I said this in the other thread, but I think the real problem here is that a certain type of liberal technocrat (and there are a lot of liberal technocrats at the FDA) finds moral panics catnip. Essentially, it plays to the savior complex that liberals often have (which, by the way, in general is a somewhat admirable thing, but can work badly in some specific cases). So these folks feel they can save teens from the depredations of nicotine addiction, something they have a very low opinion of. But there's just enough ambiguous science on nicotine and the chemicals in e-cigarettes (even though the science on tar in physical cigarettes is completely unambiguous) that they can feel like what they are really doing is saving teenagers' lives rather than what they are actually doing, which is expressing disapproval for a recreational drug they don't like.
Right, I mostly agree, but a lot of politicians want to tax vaping at the same rates as cigarettes because of the revenue
As a father of a smoker, I was quite proud of myself when I talked him into vaping instead of smoking. Then my youngest went straight into vaping, skipping the smoking when he was away at college, I'd rather he didn't, but definitely prefer him staying away from the cigarettes.
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
― C. S. Lewis
^This!
If FDA officials want to be held in contempt of court, maybe. The answer to the Supreme Court ruling that an agency was arbitrary and capricious is probably never to be even more arbitrary and capricious.
Technically, I think a uniform ban would only be arbitrary.
Doing it because a court told them to do their jobs seems pretty capricious to me.
IANAL, but I don’t see why these companies just don’t start selling this stuff without approval, knowing the FDA lacks the manpower to do anything other than send mean letters.
The purpose of government is to get in the way, to get paid to get back out of the way. "Safety in consumer products" is a a cover story to empower the government. Is more corrupt countries, they don't even bother with it, or throw it up like a flag, then back to business as usual.
The vaping companies owned by tobbacco lead the charge on pulling crushing regulation onto themselves, and removing their product from almost a hundred thousand normal stores, if radio ads are to be believed, under the guise of "corporate responsibility". We saw this play out some years back with Juul. How noble.
Follow the money. It may be a new product historically, but government is in ancient form.
Ah yes, I fondly remember the days of The Jungle. Life was so good back before the heavy hand of the government made all of us miserable.
(This is not to say that the FDA Is doing the right thing here, but "government is just out to mess with God-fearing businesses" is a pretty dumb take.)
The Jungle was a novel. Activist fiction too, aimed at making changes, not just entertaining.
Are the vaping companies using unsanitary facilities?
I could grant you every last claim of gw and half the planet's governments eyes light up at all the extortion they can extract from local business over it. The other half as well, but they cover their eyes.
True or false, meme reasons to get in the way of business is corruption's mother's milk.
It is not the unfortunate side effect. It is the primary business of government. Any beneficial items are the unexpected side effect.
Half the world labors in "shithole" economies because governments are lousy with corruption. Nobody makes the effort there.
Some companies have changed to synthetic nicotine due to the fact that synthetic nicotine products were not required to apply for a PMTA in order to remain on the market.
The FDA is now wise to this trick, so it won't last for much longer. But it may be able to buy some time for companies to stay in business to fight another day.
https://www.electrictobacconist.com/synthetic-nicotine-i289
You mean corruptions are wise to this trick, and are quickly moving to get back in the way.
Is it too much to hope that the FDA gets its pee pee smacked hard and reduced authority? The agency said they would do one thing, then based the approval on a wholly different standard, the regulatory version of bait and switch. Seems like they are looking to upstage the CDC and OSHA for the most arbitrary agency.
Probably.
I doubt they gave the unfairness of changing their standards much thought, their attitude is we can do anything we want, and even if we get reversed we can virtue signal to the right constituencies.
The OSHA vaccine cases were consolidated in one circuit. Same should apply to similar regulatory challenges like here.
Its wasteful of judicial time and plaintiffs' money to have circuit conflicts like this.
As I understand the challenges, they are not to a single regulation (like the one OSHA made) but to numerous different actions at different times based on different facts.
Where's there no smoke but vapor, there's no fire, right?
Yet, the topmost incendiary issue of the day involves genetic manipulation and possible upcoming mandatory shots in response to the alleged respiratory pandemic of Covid. Meanwhile, to inhale by way of vaping or smoking chemicals into one's lungs is at issue with the Supreme Court which can decide along newly interpreted legal, corporate, or medical lines.
While I abhor the idea of smoking or vaping, medical credible sources maintain that nicotine intake may lessen adverse effects of "Covid" or any respiratory disease and distress. And so, interesting timing, this case, that would discourage vaping that is so popular in a younger demographic.