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Thoughts on Today's Supreme Court Oral Argument in Knick v. Township of Scott - A Crucial Property Rights Case

There is reason for cautious optimism that the Supreme Court will overrule or at least curtail a precedent that makes it difficult to bring many takings claims in federal court.

Earlier today, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Knick v. Township of Scott, an important Takings Clause property rights case. The outcome in the case is far from clear. Predicting the justices' votes based on oral argument is far from an exact science. But property rights advocates have grounds for cautious optimism.

The main point at issue in Knick is whether the Court should overrule or limit Williamson County Regional Planning Commission v. Hamilton Bank, a 1985 decision that makes it virtually impossible to bring many types of takings cases in federal court. Under Williamson County, a property owner who contends that the government has taken his property and therefores owes "just compensation" under the Fifth Amendment, cannot file a case in federal court until he or she has first secured a "final decision" from the relevant state regulatory agency and has "exhausted" all possible remedies in state court. At that point, it is still often impossible to bring a federal claim, because various procedural rules preclude federal courts from reviewing state court decisions in cases where the case was initially brought in state court. I discussed the issues at stake in the case in a recent Wall Street Journal op ed, and more fully here, and in an amicus brief I coauthored on behalf of the Cato Institute, the National Federation of Independent Business, the Southeastern Legal Foundation, the Beacon Center of Tennessee, the Reason Foundation (which publishes Reason magazine and this website), and myself.

After reading the oral argument transcript, it seems to me there is a decent chance of a 5-3 decision in favor of the property owner, one that will overrule or significantly limit Williamson County. The three conservative justices who asked questions - Chief Justice John Roberts, Samuel Alito, and Neil Gorsuch, all seemed clearl sympathetic to the property owner's argument. For example, the Chief Justice was highly skeptical of the main justification for Williamson County: that no real violation of the Takings Clause has occurred until state courts rule against providing compensation. As Roberts noted in a question to the lawyer for the township, "the compensation that is due runs from the moment of the taking... In other words, if it takes you six months to adjudicate the -- the claim and you say, well, this is how much you owe, you owe interest going all the way back to the point at which the property was taken..." Gorsuch similarly indicated that "maybe it makes sense to wait when the state has acknowledged a duty to pay, and we can say the state's probably good for it," but emphasized that things are different when the state denies that a taking has occurred, and simply refuses to pay. Roberts, Alito, and Gorsuch also all emphasized that there is no good justification for categorically denying takings claimants access to federal court, which is the practical effect of Williamson County in numerous cases. As Gorsuch put it, "why should we single out... this particular right, the takings clause, for such disfavored treatment to wait to exhaust state remedies that wind up... yield[ing] a moot federal claim?"

On this key point, Justice Elena Kagan appeared to agree with the conservatives, as she explained in an exchange counsel for the Township:

I think you have a pretty good argument that there's no Fifth Amendment violation until both the taking has been accomplished and there's been a denial of just compensation. And until both of those things happen, there's no claim. But I think the problem is, and the Chief Justice referred to this, the way that rule combines with the preclusion principles in such a way that it prevents somebody from getting into federal court at all….

And -- and that seems to me an issue, and one that I'm trying to find my way around. And I'm wondering whether there is one.

The truth is that there isn't any way to get around this issue without overruling or significantly modifying Williamson County. Either takings plaintiffs should be allowed to raise their claims in federal court in the first place (my preferred solution), or the Supreme Court must eliminate procedural rules barring them from going to federal court after a state court has ruled against them.

The fourth conservative justice, Clarence Thomas did not speak at oral argument. But I think he's a safe vote for the property owner, given his previous statement that "Williamson County has downgraded the protection afforded by the Takings Clause to second- class status."

By contrast, the three remaining liberal justices - Stephen Breyer, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, and Sonia Sotomayor, seemed generally supportive of the government's position in the case. Breyer argued that Williamson County is a "sleeping dog" that should be allowed to lie, and maintained on stare decisis grounds. I thought that J. David Breemer, counsel for Knick, had a great riposte to that comment: "Williamson County is not a sleeping dog. It has run wild through the state and federal courts for 30 years swallowing just compensation rights of ordinary people like Ms. Knick." But I doubt Breyer will be convinced.

Sotomayor feared that a decision in favor of Knick would lead to a great increase in takings litigation in federal court. But exactly the same argument can be raised against giving other kinds of constitutional claims access to federal courts. That too results in greater federal court litigation over local and state policies, including ones on which local and state officials have greater expertise than federal ones.

One point on which all or nearly all the justices seemed to be in agreement is that the Court should at least make clear that defendants in state-court takings cases should not be allowed to exercise their right to "remove" the case to federal court, and then get the case dismissed because the property owner did not manage to first "exhaust" state court remedies (a failure caused by the defendants' own decision to get the case removed). Whatever else happens, this particularly ridiculous extension of Williamson County seems unlikely to survive Knick.

Things are much less clear on the main issue at stake in the case. But if I interpret Justice Kagan's concerns correctly, I think she may well join with the four conservative justices to pare back Williamson County at least enough to ensure that takings claims have some significant access to federal court.

Like all the cases heard this week, this one is being considered by a court with only eight justices, due to the fact that Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to replace Justice Anthony Kennedy remains in limbo, while the FBI investigates sexual assault claims against him. If the case ends up in a 4-4 split, it is possible the Court will have it reargued when and if a new justice is confirmed, so that he or she can break the tie.

In the meantime, the retirement of Justice Kennedy was a bad break for Knick, because Kennedy was one of four justices who joined a 2005 concurring opinion urging the Court to consider overruling Williamson County.

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  • gormadoc||

    That "sleeping dog" statement seems pointless: the SC is already reviewing it; that's kinda how things work. It also seems slightly ridiculous, as the Supreme Court isn't compelled to act only in deference to precedent and can neuter such sleeping dogs.

  • DjDiverDan||

    Pointless is right in Justice Sotomayor's wheel house, kinda what she does best.

  • Eddy||

    Takings Clause experts - should the government have to pay the compensation *before* taking possession of the property?

  • Eddy||

    I use the Internet to ask a non-rhetorical question, for the purpose of learning something, and it's crickets?

    But I could ask a sarcastic rhetorical question and get all sorts of answers, I bet.

  • chidiver||

    Well, you did target your question to the small subsegment of the interwebs that might actually be gainfully employed at 3:45 on a weekday.

  • Eddy||

    Those who know won't tell and those who'll tell don't know.

  • Smooth Like a Rhapsody||

    There are probably a lot of people willing to answer that question for $500/hr.

  • Eddy||

    Fine, I'll just Google it instead, that's pretty much the same thing, isn't it?

  • Rossami||

    As asked, it's not really an easily answerable question.

    The "Takings Clause experts" you called on will be able to tell you precisely what the law is but you asked what the law should be. Those are very different questions. Experts are not inherently better at guessing the future than anyone else.

  • Ohio Farmer||

    No. The obligation comes into being *when* they take the property. At that time, they should pay.

  • Junkie||

    I think his point is that it shouldn't happen well after.

    Whether it's shortly before or at the same moment in time isn't particularly important.

  • ScottK||

    It's a waste of keystrokes to type that Justice Thomas did not ask any questions.

  • OtisAH||

    I was wondering if I was the only reader to get a giggle out of that.

  • Krayt||

    ===the Court should at least make clear that defendants in state-court takings cases should not be allowed to exercise their right to "remove" the case to federal court, and then get the case dismissed because the property owner did not manage to first "exhaust" state court remedies (a failure caused by the defendants' own decision to get the case removed)===

    I am reminded of a scene from The Man Who Would Be King, where Sean Connery, fancying himself sitting there all Solomon-like, heavily fines a guy for tricking people out of their money, then double-fines him "for thinking he can get away with it."

  • CJColucci||

    You'd probably get 8 votes on that. Justice Breyer said as much

  • bernard11||

    I'm on Knick's side here.

    It seems bizarre to this non-lawyer that tangled legal procedures can prevent her from pressing her claim in federal court.

    Plus, that ordinance needs to be redrawn.

  • DjDiverDan||

    It's much worse than you think. Scott Township claimed that Knick's property was a cemetary because it found some stones in the ground which they surmised might be grave markers. As if finding stones in the ground which got there naturally (as, for instance, by being dropped there by a retreating ice sheet) is highly unusual in Pennsylvania.

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