Jimmy Carter, 'The Great Deregulator,' 1924–2024
Nobel-winning economist Vernon Smith says the 39th president radically improved air travel, freight rail, and trucking in ways that still benefit us immensely.
HD DownloadJimmy Carter was perhaps the most successful ex-president in American history, winning the Nobel Peace Prize in 2002 for his work promoting human rights and economic and social development.
But his single term as president (1977–1981) is largely remembered as a series of failures and missteps, sometimes literally. Gas lines, a record-high combination of unemployment and inflation on the "misery index," and Americans being held hostage by Iranian revolutionaries for over a year all fueled the perception that Carter was a weak and ineffective leader. When he collapsed during a six-mile run, it personified for many the exhaustion of the country under his leadership.
But there was at least one way in which Carter excelled as president. He was, in the words of 2002 Nobel–winning economist Vernon Smith, the great deregulator. Carter forced the airline industry, along with interstate trucking and freight rail, to compete for business, with powerful and positive effects that continue to this day.
I talked to Smith about Carter, whom he met at a White House event for American Nobel Prize winners, and what it was like to fly in the days when the government controlled air travel.
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Ask anyone who flew commercial back in the 70s how they like things now.
While you’re at it ask truckers what they think of deregulation.
Deregulation turns everything into a commodity. You can still get first class - you just have to pay more for it. People like you want to fly first class coast-to-coast for $99.
Carter was in fact the Great Deregulator.
Arguing with the voices in your head again?
You implied that things were better before deregulation.
No he didn't retard. You're as deficient in reading comprehension as sarc is.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You implied that things were better before deregulation.
Buttplug barely reads his own comments, why should we expect him to read everyone else's?
Dipshit never had to wait in line for two hours to fill up his car with gas.
I don't think the people trashing Carter realize how much lower airfares are today thanks to the deregulation that he and Ted Kennedy pushed.
https://www.travelandleisure.com/airlines-airports/history-of-flight-costs
Writes this after people have shown Ford initiated all of it lol
Not Ford, Nixon.
I flew very long distances as a kid in the 60's and 70's. I flew unaccompanied sometimes and there always seemed to be a couple of other kids flying unaccompanied (with a stewardess chaperoning them) to their grandparents/etc. The meals were better than what a kid could like. And there were all sorts of cheap gifts to keep kids quiet.
Really except for the meals, the passengers (much worse), and the TSA lines - I don't think there's much difference re the airlines themselves. The 40's and 50's could have been much different going cross the Atlantic because back then the competition was the grand ocean ships.
I recall flying by commercial airliner in the 1970s and it was a pleasant experience. The planes were 2/3 empty and I often had a row of seats to myself. Passengers frequently dressed-up in nice clothes and they knew how to conduct themselves in a decent and considerate manner. The stewardesses were attractive and pleasant. The meals were edible. The airlines did not treat their customers with utter contempt. In short, it was the polar opposite of travelling by commercial air today, which seems to resemble inner-city mass-transit with wings. Although admittedly I have not flown commercial in many years: I would not subject myself to the indignity. I do occasionally fly private if necessary, such as a recent flight from Oregon to Fresno, California which was quite nice. No lines or security screening or other petty inconveniences.
A seat on that flight would be $8000 today.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"While you’re at it ask truckers what they think of deregulation."
Deregulation isn't supposed to benefit the people in the industry. It's supposed to benefit the people who consume the product, directly or indirectly. If truckers hate it that's a sign it's succeeded.
The Great Deregulator?
http://www.jthtl.org/content/articles/V5I2/JTHTLv5i2_Crain.PDF
Has Reason magazine ever mentioned who started the deregulation?
Hey Gillespie, read the damn link.
And QB Drew Bledsoe started the great Patriots Super Bowl era in 2000.
Why do facts piss you off so much shrike?
Shrike kryptonite.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Facts don't matter to narratives.
Airline deregulation was put into place by Ford. Most of the deregulation in 79 was Jimmy pushing the GOP plans in Congress due to his terrible polls.
But the narrative lives on.
And definitely ignore the 2 major departments he created and how much it costs us in regulations and dollars.
For Reason, when a lefty does something not totally destructive, they merit an honorable mention. Kim Reynolds has the soundest state economy and has been the arch advocate of school choice and vouchers. I don't remember a single article about her.
It's not just the FBI that needs to move out of DC.
I noticed this Carter reformation project bleeding into even libertarian sites about 2010. I think it was to try to move them towards obamas technocrats rule, or at least what he called the rule by experts. Reason has been pushing this quite a lot as well. Part of the globalist shift to oligarchy control.
But that's when I started going through carter's speeches and actions and was amazed to find that the narrative was completely false.
It makes me laugh though how angry people like shrike and sarc get for pointing out the actual facts.
Harding's tax and spending cuts averted a depression and Coolidge left the government smaller than he found it. It would be nice if someone would resurrect their reputations, but don't hold your breath.
Airline deregulation was put into place by Ford. Most of the deregulation in 79 was Jimmy pushing the GOP plans in Congress due to his terrible polls.
Lies. Airline deregulation had to be championed in the Senate by Ted Kennedy. It was finally pushed through and signed by Carter - not Ford.
Khan was hand-picked by Carter.
I thought my analogy might sink into your thick skull. Drew Bledsoe was the starting QB for the Patriot dynasty - not Tom Brady.
Carter was the Tom Brady of Deregulation although Bledsoe began the first Super Bowl year as starter.
From the link you didn't follow:
"The political power of the regulated companies and their unions was finally overcome by two presidents who made deregulating the industries a top priority. After Nixon resigned, Gerald Ford “made a great hullabaloo about deregulation.” During his short time in office, he appointed pro-deregulation commissioners and convinced Congress to partially deregulate railroads and oil and gas. Jimmy Carter picked up where Ford left off. “Jimmy Carter seized on deregulation very early in his administration largely because Ford had prepared the issue for action.” Carter scored a remarkable string of victories. He lifted most of the remaining regulations on oil and gas, and he revolutionized the transportation industry by eliminating controls on airlines, railroads and trucking companies."
Yeah, it says that Carter did all the heavy lifting.
Give Ford a hat tip then.
Reading comprehension of a 3rd grader.
Not really. He knows what it says but he really enjoys fibbing. It was his old job before he got canned you know.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You know, it is important to actually get something done and sign it.
JFK and Reagan did not invent tax cuts. But they both get the credit for theirs.
Jesse is too stupid to understand this but I would think an engineer would get it.
Shrike, you give credit based on if it helps make a Democrat look good. See your constant energy posts like this morning to credit biden despite all his actions against energy expansion.
You're just not intelligent. Lol.
You don't know facts. You know democrat narratives. Why you get so angry when one of us teaches you something.
turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
turd is a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.
It is sad how you refuse to click links. Was it because maddow wasn't the author?
turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Airline deregulation was put into place by Ford"
Liar. It was Ted Kennedy who started the push, while Ford was President. Not Ford himself.
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Propaganda works!
Oh FFS. You are the king of narratives around here. Always and everywhere, your narrative is "Republicans = good guys, Democrats = bad guys", even trying to rewrite history in order to maintain the narrative. YES Nixon and Ford started the deregulation push, but it was Carter who brought it over the finish line. The committee hearings on the bill were chaired by Ted Fkn Kennedy. The bill was introduced by Senator Cannon, a Democrat. The final vote on the measure was completely bipartisan and overwhelming, about 80% of both parties voted in favor of it.
Most of the deregulation in 79 was Jimmy pushing the GOP plans in Congress due to his terrible polls.
There were no GOP plans in Congress in 79. Democrats controlled everything. And by the way, the airline deregulation bill passed a year earlier, in 1978. Tell us, did the bill pass in Congress with 80+% support from both parties because of Carter's "terrible polls"? Hmm? That is insane. You really are a piece of work.
"YES Nixon and Ford started the deregulation push, but it was Carter who brought it over the finish line."
Um, this is like giving Obama credit for withdrawing in Iraq, while most of that was already put in motion while Bush was still in office.
By your own admission, all Carter did was sign a bill that already had bipartisan support. The economy was in the toilet. Seriously, read what you just posted. The left tried to blame Trump for the AFG withdrawal fiasco when he rushed the timeline set by Trump. Where were you to set the record straight?
No one shifts narrative to suit agendas more than you. YOU assume that we're some partisan hacks on every issue by default. Remember when you said "stolen valor" accusations against Tim Walz was unfounded attacks, even when verified former soldiers under his command and military records backed them?
Carter was a terrible president, and arguably an antisemite. He was repudiated with a historical landslide defeat. The right is pushing back on the left trying to memory hole him as some great humanitarian, so of course like the Lincoln Project, you take THEIR side.
It's not clear to me splitting Education from HEW has been costly. At the time, deregulators thought that would make it an easier target than having to go after it as part of HEW. Similarly the functions gathered from other departments into Energy.
Reason magazine may never have mentioned who got the ball rolling on the great deregulations, but a book compiling articles commissioned by the Reason Foundation did about 40 years ago. Nixon started a bunch of commissions that took years to report, and when they did, recommended deregulation. The only major failure in that regard was the one regarding marijuana: It reported too soon, while Nixon was still in office, and there was no way he was going for the deregulation they came out for!
Yeah Nixon started investigating deregulation, but he wasn't exactly a deregulatory himself was he? He is the entire reason you have the moronic "health insurance as part of employment" system.
The guy who turned one cabinet department into 3 behemoths
RIP Jimmy Carter
Don't we wish it was RIP JFucked.
*tosses a bag of popcorn into the microwave*
Are you predicting a MAGA circle jerk?
Sarc doesn’t spend much time here.
No. More like a fountain of hate.
Poor baby. Why does the whole world hate you?
His mommy told him he was special, and the other kids would never like him.
His mom didn't want him and he was shuffled back and forth across the country between his neglectful divorced parents.
If Sarc wasn't such a piece of shit I'd probably feel bad for him.
Well so far you and shrike are wrong. Unless you mean understanding history beyond simple narratives is hateful.
You forgot this guy:
2002 Nobel–winning economist Vernon Smith, the great deregulator.
Write him and give him an economics lesson, you lying little weasel.
This was a pretty dumb appeal to authority admitting you prefer being wrong.
I'd pat the poor little thing on its poor little head if I wasn't afraid of getting my finger bitten off.
Ideas™ !
Did this make sense to your drunk ass?
So far you've given zero substantive posts. Waiting on all the hate. Or are those facts the things you hate?
You're rarely here way too much buddy. Imagine being such a pathological liar you even lie about that lol.
Sarckles swears he isn't here solely to troll libertarians. Just ask him.
""This was a pretty dumb appeal to authority admitting you prefer being wrong."
You are too kind twice:
1) The imbecilic and pathological liar turd has no idea what "appeal to authority" means.
2) If the slimy, lying, pile of lefty shit did, he'd lie about it regardless.
There might be something in that scumbag's personality or beliefs which are worth at least lack of hatred, but turd has yet to show such.
This is so weird. In both threads only uou and shrike are throwing around hate lol.
They have the good kind of hate.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
No, turd, we are predicting you will once again prove to be an ass. Fuck off and die, shit-pile.
Put of food until the 1st of the month?
I thought you were rarely here anymore.
Carter 'accomplished' something I don't think will happen again for at least a half century: President runs for a second term, and not only loses, but loses so spectacularly that the challenger gets TEN TIMES as many Electoral Votes.
Those of us who are too young to remember 1980 mostly know Carter as a bitter, decrepit "election denier" - he insisted Clinton really won in 2016.
Huh, I didn’t think Reason liked insurrectionists.
He died like he lived. Seeing unprecedented gains by the GOP after rallying for the democrat.
Yes, I have not forgotten that.
Hey, Sandy! Happy New Year. And fuck you and your TDS!
Let's look at those Carter actions... well before his polls were dropping in 78...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Stimulus_Appropriations_Act_of_1977
Keyenesian government jobs program. Huh.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Service_Reform_Act_of_1978
New agencies to control the firing of government empyees like the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB), and the Federal Labor Relations Authority (FLRA).
Huh.
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/comprehensive-employment-and-training-act-extension-message-the-congress
Huh. Expensive government jobs program. It can't be that bad...
Public service jobs increased from 310,000 in 1976 to a peak of 725,000 in 1978.
Oh. Just a doubling.
Then the Youth Employment and Demonstration Projects Act. More government involvement in private sector.
Targeted Jobs Tax Credit... what's this. Government directing tax breaks for favored hires?? You don't say.
What's this?
https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/humphrey-hawkins-act
That doesn't sound free market or deregulatory. Weird.
It is amazing watching dumb people fall for propaganda. Good work shrike, sarc, and others. Didn't even have to get to the two major departments he created lol. Almost like the majority of his actions was more government oversight. At least during the pristine early years of his presidency before shifting to reelection. So fucking weird.
Gillespie can't quite make it on cherry picking; he's trying to improve his skills here.
Have you made plans yet? I heard there's a Trump defender meetup where Carter is being buried and everyone's going to piss on his grave. You coming?
You should spend more time here.
He is rarely here anymore. Just 10 times a day.
This is just extra sad. Lol.
Look how angry you and shrike get when someone who isn't ignorant writes a post. It is fucking hilarious.
Notice how neither of you can ever address facts or an argument?
The best part is I could add another dozen things just off memory. But you and shrike have your simpleton bumper sticker narratives. Quite funny how dumb and ignorant you two are.
No one is claiming Carter was some doctrinaire libertarian. Of course he supported some terrible ideas. But he also supported a few good ideas, like for example airline deregulation.
You and your team demand that everyone give Trump oodles of mostly undeserved credit whenever he does something that vaguely resembles a libertarian thought. And yet here is a guy who did something that every libertarian should support - deregulate a formerly heavily government controlled industry - and you cannot help but trash him, only because he has a (D) after his name.
If a president does one libertarian-ish thing but 10 terrible things, that president:
A. Deserves praise for the one libertarian-ish thing (if Republican), or
B. Deserves scorn for the ten terrible things (if Democrat)
"No one is claiming Carter was some doctrinaire libertarian. Of course he supported some terrible ideas. But he also supported a few good ideas, like for example airline deregulation."
Sigh, "He did some good thing and did some bad things" could be said of just about every president. It tells us nothing.
Carter was not a deregulator. He signed deregulation bill that had consensus support. None of this changes the fact that he was a terrible president that set benchmark for a terrible presidency. Raegan trounced him a landslide victory.
You've attacked Trump 100 more time than Joe Biden, a senile man who put the country into so much misery that the demo that hated on Trump gave him 15 more points in the election. People literally suffered under the Biden and Carter presidency. No one gives a shit about "some good things" they did when their legacy is a failure. If you lost your life savings to a pyramid scheme, you won't care if the masterminds took their elderly mothers for a walk.
Trump signed meaningful legislation under blistering opposition. No one called him the "great school choice innovator" for him hiring besty davos or "great corporate tax reformer". Why is Carter "The great deregulator" when you admit that he was no libertarian and he merely signed a deregulation bill championed by others?
"No one is claiming Carter was some doctrinaire libertarian. "
There is a big difference between a "doctrinaire libertarian" and someone who doubles the size of the bureaucracy and acts like a standard economic authoritarian. And again, the comment was about how he went BEFORE it was clear he would lose if he didn't change. It's about what he wanted to do, not what he did when he thought it would save his skin.
'Carter forced the airline industry, along with interstate trucking and freight rail, to compete for business, with powerful and positive effects that continue to this day.'
No, whatever role Carter had in removing government regulation that is not "forcing" commercial enterprises to compete. That is getting out of the way of basic free market dynamics.
Gillespie, you sound like a fucking pro-government statist.
If it walks like a statist and talks like a statist
That "forced" caught my attention too. The only thing airline and trucking deregulation did was take regulation out of the hands of government so cronies no longer could buy favors from government and had to survive in a freer market.
Reason has long since lost sight of principles.
Cut Gillespie a little slack. He's got a PhD in English which too often means erudition untouched by facts.
Idiot. By getting rid of the price fixing and barriers to entry, he absolutely forced them to compete, by withdrawing their guaranteed markets and protection from competitors.
It's more correct to say that made it easier to compete.
If government removes fixed pricing on hamburgers and but overregulates licensing, zoning and taxes, the top tier receive an advantage.
Airline prices are stupid high. It's less high because earlier barriers were removed.
RIP
"perhaps the most successful ex-president in American history"
I appreciate him getting another job after the Presidency, instead of just collecting his pension, taking hefty speaking fees, and amusing himself with painting.
But "most successful ex-president"? Look at some others.
There was William Howard Taft, who after being President, ended up as Chief Justice. He prodded Congress to reform the judiciary, he lobbied to keep progressive loons off the bench, and he even gave some good decisions (and some bad ones). He'd always wanted to be on the Supreme Court instead of the White House, anyway.
Probably the *most* successful ex-President was John Quincy Adams, who went into the House of Representatives where he fought against the proslavery interests. (He also defended the Amistad captives and campaigned against Freemasonry at a time when Masons were implicated in murder. They made a movie about the former but so far not about the latter.)
Thomas Jefferson went back to Monticello and piled up debts, but he also took a hand in founding and running the University of Virginia. He didn't need an actual job (his people - literally *his* people - saw to that), but nowadays that kind of university work would have been done by paid administrators.
Herbert Hoover was on a Truman-created commission to make recommendations for reorganizing the executive branch and...zzzzz...OK, but he at least did some work.
I presume that many of the post-Presidents had cases in their legal practices, simply because - and I bet you're as surprised as I am at this - at lot of Presidents were lawyers.
Andrew Johnson went back to the Senate for a few months in 1875, just before his death, which is more of an historical curiosity than an achievement.
Given the time and the distortion of the Constitution, Silent Cal did a very good job.
Trump. '16-'20 did as good as he did- best POTUS in a century. We can hope for more, now that he has learned that a corrupt DOJ has to be swept out.
Silent Cal, through his unwillingness to do anything to regulate the financial sector, unwittingly caused the stock market crash of 1929.
Then Herbert Hoover signed the Smoot Hawley tariff into law basically ending international trade, putting export oriented US businesses who had survived the crash out of business.
And then Hoover signed a massive increase in the income tax into law, because he was more worried about balancing the federal budget than the fact that the economy was already in Hell. That ill timed tax increase was strike three and the US economy would be out of commission for a decade. In parts of the United States, the Rule of Law was collapsing. That tax increase put us in the bottom circle.
FDR saved the economy by returning the US to free trade and by creating a regulatory state.
"FDR saved the economy by returning the US to free trade and by creating a regulatory state."
FDR, through abysmal ignorance, sent the US gov't economic policies, down the rabbit hole of imbecility, which the shit-stain charliehall promotes.
Fuck you with a barb-wire-wrapped broomstick; it what you and your assholic friends deserve.
Eat shit and die, asshole.
It’s not everyday we someone out stupid shrike, but goddamn if you didn’t do that here.
Congratulations Charlie.
"he lobbied to keep progressive loons off the bench"
I am unaware of any Progressive Loons who were considered for the SC during that time. Back then the liberal justices believed in limiting the intervention of the judiciary to overturn what elected officials had done.
As a pathetic slimy piece of lefty shit, you are unaware of reality.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Herbert Hoover was a big time America First guy, trying to obstruct US preparation for WW2.
You.
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Fuck off and die.
Charliehall is the dumbest fucker alive.
Department of education anyone? We see how that turned out.
Turn down the thermostat, put on a sweater, America.
Carter was the last victorious Presidential candidate I voted for, and the only candidate I regret voting for. But I must say one thing for him. His predecessor as Governor was Lester Maddox, who handed out axe handles so white people could chase black people out of his restaurant. Most white southern politicians would say "I'll obey the law of the land, but I'm sending my kids to a private [all white] academy." Governor Carter was the first powerful white southerner who was totally comfortable dealing with with black people as equals. He set a magnificent example.
Another thing. A 1970s friend of mine came from Mississippi and noted that Carter had, through the Navy, done what civilized southerners did -- he got the hell out. When Carter came back to run the family peanut business, my friend said, he showed the rest of us that it was possible to live in the south and be civilized.
At best Carter showed that it was possible for a Southern *politician* to be civilized. Plenty of Southerners (of different races) had *already* managed to achieve civilization, albeit arguably outside the chambers of political power.
Anyway, Mississippi isn't identical with the south.
Carter was a great deregulator only because, as explained in a book about 40 years ago from Reason, he happened to be in office when the reports of various commissions which had been inaugurated by Nixon reported to Congress, recommending those deregulations.
I'm old enough to remember Carter's presidency. It was terrible.
Biden's presidency brought back a lot of those memories.
I'll say this much, back then even the liberals in media actually cared when Americans were being held hostage by an enemy government.
Today, they don't bother trying to pretend to give a fuck.
Everybody seems to have conveniently forgotten that Carter came into office with an agenda much like Trump's -- reforming government. He was going to reduce the number of federal employees and went around to various agencies giving speeches to that effect. They went over about as you would expect. So Carter started the job by aggravating everyone he was supposed to be in charge of.
Oh yeah, and Carter's reputation for being a good person is mostly due to transfer from Ham Jordan.
And other than Jordan, Carter's staff was the most incompetent in history up until Dementia Joe.