Why I Left California for Florida
The Golden State is terribly run, but that's not the main reason from my move. Most of life isn't about politics, thankfully.
HD DownloadI left California and moved to Florida.
After 14 transformational years in Los Angeles, where my wife Lindsey and I built careers, bought a house, got married and had three kids, we decided to pack up and relocate. And we're not alone. California's approach to the pandemic made life harder than ever before.
I've reported extensively on California's policies, from the expensive and unreliable energy grid to the aggressive taxation and regulation, from the draconian lockdowns that permanently damaged small businesses and kept children out of school for longer than anywhere else, to the failure of city leaders to cope with the nation's worst homelessness and mental crises. I've seen it all firsthand. But my main reasons for moving aren't political; they're personal.
California: I still love you. Sometimes I don't feel it. But I really do.
Fourteen years ago, my future wife's Honda Accord hustled us 2,400 miles in three days so that she could make it for a job interview in Los Angeles. We left behind friends, family, and Florida—trading the swamps of the Sunshine State for the glamour of Hollywood. We memorialized the moment with blurry digital photos snapped from the car window.
We soaked in the famous SoCal weather, so consistently pleasant that it spoils you for the rest of the world. We gawked at the natural beauty, and gorged ourselves on the rich, variegated culture of Los Angeles—a city packed full of people creative, daring, and delusional enough to follow their dreams.
My kids are all California natives and life here on balance was good to them. They trounced through mountain streams in the Sierras, hid inside centenarian redwoods, splashed at the edge of the vast, cold Pacific, played and learned alongside other kids from around the world, learned how to count in Mandarin, greet in Spanish, and express their gratitude in Korean.
Then things started to change, both for us and in the world.
On March 19, 2020, Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom issued the nation's first statewide stay-at-home order. As the dynamism of L.A. ground to a halt, the smog cleared, the birds chirped, and we would see and hear our surroundings in a way we never had before. It made us look at California differently, the upsides and downsides each coming into sharper focus.
The rolling blackouts are more unsettling and the wildfire smoke more oppressive when you're already stuck in your house or forced to wear a mask once you step outside. Newsom blames climate change, but his policies matter too. The forests weren't properly managed, and the increasingly solar- and wind-dependent grid is fragile. And Newsom hastened the closure of California's last nuclear plant. When Germany closed all of theirs, emissions went up, and so did prices.
My oldest son was still in preschool last year, largely sparing him the frustration and social isolation of remote learning that so many kids experienced in 2020. But it was disturbing to watch California keep its schools closed long after other countries and states were demonstrating that safe in-person schooling was possible—the governor's own kids attended private school in-person while most public schools campuses stayed empty. The powerful teacher's unions used their position to extract hundreds of millions of additional dollars during the shutdown, and L.A.'s union issued a list of demands that included a wealth tax, Medicare for All, and a ban on all new charter schools. School is back now, but with mandatory weekly testing, social distancing, mandatory masking for even the fully vaccinated, and vaccine mandates for all eligible kids.
The signs of poverty and desperation in the streets, already bad before COVID, only got worse as L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti's underperforming $1.2 billion plan to build homeless housing completely stalled, and the city faced a violent crime and homicide spike. I voted for and still support sentencing reform, believe no person should be jailed for drugs, and think we need a social safety net for those who can't take care of themselves. But a city needs the rule of law and safe public spaces to function, and many of California's big cities are failing on those fronts.
The city's cultural and culinary life nearly died as we sheltered in place. It's coming back—in its own socially distanced, masked, and mandatory vaccine-verified way—but for many small businesses there will be no second life. Shutting down outdoor dining without any grounding in "science, evidence, or logic," (as one judge ruling against the forced closures put it) ended the California dream for many restaurateurs.
And yet California's political class seems more secure than ever. L.A.'s mayor failed up by getting a U.S. ambassadorship. The governor survived the recall easily, and the Democratic supermajority is rushing to make future recalls an impossibility.
And when one party rules, those who've captured that party often make the rules: teachers unions, firefighter unions, prison guard unions, state service employees unions. Public sector unions feed public money and power to themselves so they can continually increase that power and influence, allowing them to feed more money and power to themselves.
As my moving date drew closer, however, I felt a blissful detachment from California politics. When your voice goes unheard, it's sometimes better to head for the exit.
But, again, my move isn't all about politics. If it were, perhaps I'd be in New Hampshire right now, surrounded by like-minded people.
Most of life isn't about politics, thankfully. There are people I love are in Florida, and they're getting older, as am I. And it's a new world, with new rules, where you can more easily live and work from where you want.
I still love you, California. I made my career, my home, and my family there.
I'll miss California because, despite politics, it's still a spectacularly beautiful, diverse, and strange land, where the waves meet the mountains, where people follow their dreams or lose their minds, or both.
But I've returned now to this humid peninsula jutting into the Gulf of Mexico. It's familiar, but not quite the same as before. I'll have a lot more say about this place with terrifying reptiles, COVID contrarianism, and a lightning-rod governor who plays by different rules both for good and for ill.
"As goes California, so goes the nation," Newsom once said, following the state supreme court's legalization of same-sex marriage. Is that still true, or is it Texas now? Or is the importance of geography simply diminished in the networked age? Is Florida the future?
I don't know. But it is mine.
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Nice article, and good luck in your new home.
I've heard you'll have to move again in 8 years though when Florida is completely underwater.
Subheading is that not everything is about politics.
95% of the article: About politics that encouraged the move.
As for not moving to New Hampshire instead, well, no. Winter up there is *brutal*.
I had several friends encourage me to move to New Hampshire to join the Free State project. Maybe I should have, but they seemed on the hippy dippy side and that is not me at all. Plus I hate snow. Maybe if I were younger.
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Picking New Hampshire for that experiment was a mistake. And a failure...
Correct. New Hampshire was already lost to the Massholes. Population already too large, competing polities too communist for the Free State Project to work.
Richard Overy wrote a book explaining how, according to quite a few reviews, WWII was not won by the economic powers of the allies, but was won by, well....
Every chapter, supposedly telling us what really mattered ends with some economic advantage accruing to the Allies.
White Mike, sarc, turd jeff, Brandyshit, and others spend tons of band-width here explaining they aren't really lefty shits.
turd is not alone: People lie.
I bet you loved House MD's motto about trusting patients.
I know to whom you're referring but not the actual reference; watch sports on TV but nothing else.
Ah. He's the Sherlock Holmes of medical TV shows, and his mantra is "Don't trust the patient. They always lie."
..and he was correct.
Well, the other 5% is weather!
LOL!
Welcome to Florida.
I beg you to Please not vote Democrat.
That will force you to move again.
Desantis has done a great job as Governor.
Let’s hope he is the next President
expensive and unreliable energy grid to the aggressive taxation and regulation, from the draconian lockdowns that permanently damaged small businesses and kept children out of school for longer than anywhere else, to the failure of city leaders to cope with the nation's worst homelessness and mental crises.
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California: I still love you. Sometimes I don't feel it. But I really do.
I mean, what's not to love, baby?
I flew into LA and drove to Sandy Eggo last summer. I was shocked at the number of tents and tent cities I saw along the drive. It was surreal.
Welcome to the west coast.
It's all recent too. Within the last five years. I suspect it was a deliberate attempt by mayors to blame Trump. But then it got out of control. Hell, I run across a huge homeless encampment in Los Banos, a wide spot in the road. The refusal of city governments to do ANYTHING about homelessness is shocking. There's a major permanent homeless encampment just spit away from the Apple campus. The cops don't give a shit. Apple doesn't give a shit. It's encouraged.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Maybe cutting back on the caffeine would reduce the constant rage and anger a bit?
Life is too short to blow a circuit over a comment on the internet.
Idiot. The homelessness is a DIRECT result of government programs, regulations, edicts, and everything else governments do. Homelessness is worse because the Dems have a supermajority in the legislature, the governorship, mayorships, town council majorities, and --- you know what? You're too damned blind to waste any more words on what is obvious.
+1
They completely own EVERY problem in California. Many are intentional because you must destroy what was working before you can wear the people down to sell them "build back better".
Too bad California didn't vote for "put it back the way you found it and leave me the fuck alone".
But the "homeless" give a shit. Often.
Maybe the best approach is to claim that living in a tent is cultural appropriation. Either of the "native" Americans, or the Mongols, or the Arabs, or somebody, but cultural appropriation.
The problem for the governments (and this is the last time I defend CA government) is that every time they do ANYTHING to mitigate the homelessness problems, they get lawsuits filed against them by activist groups.
At the end of the day, if you don't aggressively move people along, and they spend the night in a tent they have setup, it basically becomes a house. Moving people off that "house" becomes about as difficult as an eminent domain order. It is protected under the CA constitution against search and seizure, and moving the people off the land requires a court order.
To be sure, the government is very good at eminent domain. But then, when they usually do it, they are getting something in return. All they get for sending lawyers to courts to kick crazies off the beach is a bunch of shit from their constituents and wealthy donors living in gated communities.
All that said, Brandybuck, it is not nearly as bad in Orange County.
“Not nearly as bad” in OC? That implies great similarity. But OC is light years ahead of LA County. The OC is awesome.
BTW, things are turning. LA has cleared both Echo and MacArthur Park of homeless.
Not in my town. It started during the Obama administration which baffled me-- someone who's old enough to remember the homelessness crisis of 1991, which literally disappeared in 1992.
I kept looking around saying, "Remember when homelessness was George Bush's fault? Where does Obama factor into this shit which is ~946,746 x worse than anything that was going on in the early 90s."
Obama had the good fortune to have tens of thousands of media sycophants gushing non-stop about every detail of his being, from the sweet sound of the digestive gasses escaping his rectum on down to the way he holds his fork.
The media has completely abandoned their role of unbiased critical observation in this century.
Outstanding. Well said.
That may be true up north, but Skid Row was already in the culture in the 80s, and in LA the homelessness is played up by the media who want more density/development (as though the hobos are gonna pay $4000/mo for a studio, lol). I will say that since the 90s a lot of areas are being developed, and it's driving people out of their traditional hobo spaces (either from the shitty daily hotels or from the streets surrounding them). That is definitely the case in SD and LA.
A former GOP governor who went on to be president shuttered the state's mental health facilities and pushed the crazies onto the streets where they've been ever since. Then there's the good weather in California, which is crucial if you want to survive the extremes of Summer and Winter living without AC or heat. This along with California's generous homeless programs attracts a significant percentage of homeless from other states. And finally, the political climate in the state discourages the sort of heavy-handed legal approaches other states use to criminalize the homeless and move them out of the public eye.
Heck, Doonesbury had a few strips about the issue back in the mid-80s.
The solution: more taxes to restart and fund mental health institutions and residential rehab centers.
I didn't see a single faux-rationale for why homelessness has gotten so much worse the last several years. If you think a long-dead former governor is still responsible, you are even more of an idiot for thinking anyone else will fall for it. If you think global warming has gotten so bad that the climate change in just the last few years is responsible, then you should be buying beach front property in North Dakota.
You came close once. Too bad you went on with your nonsense.
You are still blaming Reagan for something 50 plus years ago? Dems have controlled CA for 20 years; that isnt sufficient tiome to fix it?
"A former GOP governor who went on to be president shuttered the state's mental health facilities and pushed the crazies onto the streets where they've been ever since."
You're a lying pile of lefty shit.
An ACLU lawsuit required the state to allow any patients who chose to leave to do so; Reagan was Governor at the time and slime lefty assholes like you have been repeating that lie ever since.
Fuck off and die.
Sevo beat me to calling your BS about Reagan. Blaming Reagan for poop in San Francisco streets, but not Pelosi. Priceless.
There is none so blind as those who refuse to see. The left completely owns EVERY failure in California.
Reagan has been gone from Sacramento for, hmmm almost 50 years?
Be smarter Shawn.
That long-dead governor was acting on a lawsuit by the ACLU.
Joking, right? Regan hasn't been governor since 1975. I think there's been a Democrat or two in office and at least a couple of tax hikes in California since 1975.
^^^^ THIS
Leggo that Eggo.
I call it Stab Diego.
I voted for and still support sentencing reform, believe no person should be jailed for drugs, and think we need a social safety net for those who can't take care of themselves. But a city needs the rule of law and safe public spaces to function, and many of California's big cities are failing on those fronts.
Whoa, Zack "Hitler" Weissmueller, that gets you branded as "unlibertarian".
This is a man that doesn't have a clue about homelessness. The homeless are largely either a) mentally ill, or b) far along in their addiction where they eventually merge into c) mentally ill and addicted to drugs. So legal drugs means taxes to fund addiction rehab, housing, etc. You cannot be low-tax and high-service in any state, California included. Best example of low-tax, low service? Florida.
Giving turd some real competition in the "Constant Lying" competition, asshole.
We have bums because the governments pay them to be here.
Fuck off and die.
"The homeless are largely either a) mentally ill, or b) far along in their addiction where they eventually merge into c) mentally ill and addicted to drugs."
I actually don't think this is correct lately. I found myself in a couple of these homeless enclaves recently- because they now tend to pop up in cul-de-sacs in front of peoples' houses, god help them.
What I saw were old VW buses and 1970's Winnebagos with 15 - 30 year old kids in them. There were old foosball tables and corn-hole sets out front, and they were sitting in lawn chairs and skateboarding around the lot. When you accidentally turn into their recreation space, it is like some punk rock children of the corn.
I've seen this before- back in the 90s there would be a couple kids who'd rent a dump of a house, and then 40 of their best friends would crash there night after night in places like LBC. These skater houses were limited in number because you still need someone to pay rent. But now they don't even need a house. Someone gets their hands on an old RV, pushes it into a cul-da-sac and voila! instant RV park.
It's only partially true. Shawn_dude doesn't know anything about the homeless. The homeless were always with us, and they were people who had sunk so far down the social scale (often mentally ill-- or yes, severe addiction) that they would slip through various social safety nets.
What's going on now is new, and is victimizing the mentally ill. Homelessness is now a lifestyle choice (see my comment about the Metal shop and entire off-grid economy set up by the people who built a complex homeless complex-- not the provenance of the severely mentally ill). It's a lifestyle choice by declaration of one of the most powerful homelessness advocacy organizations in my city.
What has happened is enforcement not only stopped, but homelessness was literally encouraged. That brought in a class of people who simply enjoy living free on the street (god bless their little hearts) and they are now crowding out and victimizing the people who TRULY NEED services.
The guy building a two story structure on top of his RV on a busy city street isn't a severely mentally ill guy. He may have substance problem, but whatever that problem, he's got it together enough to acquire tools, building materials and the expertise to... build a two story house.
This. Same thing has happened in Asheville, and we are an hour north of them on the interstate, so our own downtown get's their rejects. Sure some of our homeless are the prototypical mentally ill/drugs people but most of them are hipster vagabonds.
My store is flanked by two homeless encampments, one behind us and the DMV and one next door! The amount of backpacks and things walking out the door without payment is dumbfounding Obviously, many have some faculties about them, though there also are those on psychoactive drugs and mentally ill too. Either way, it is a bad statement about our local officials and law enforcement that these areas aren't cleaned and bulldozed out.
The homeless are largely either a) mentally ill, or b) far along in their addiction where they eventually merge into c) mentally ill and addicted to drugs
You’re certainly not wrong about that.
So legal drugs means taxes to fund addiction rehab, housing, etc.
California’s homeless population is proof that (de facto) legal drugs and “funds” are not the answer to the problem. Mind you, CA has no problem at all with continuing to throw hundreds of millions of dollars into social programs with no success in sight, as is SOP with the Democrats that control the state.
My employer shares a parking lot with a daycare center. Not long ago, the cops were called because they thought a bum was exposing himself to the kiddos. Turns out it was a misunderstanding, the guy was just shitting on the sidewalk. That’s how bad it’s gotten here in NorCal. Cops standing down because bums are only shitting on the sidewalk, our “new normal”. And this with a homeless camp not 100 yards from the daycare center.
Although there did seem to be a momentary concern with kids in the city not being able to walk to school, without walking through the filth:
https://www.kcra.com/amp/article/encampments-sacramento-encroaching-kids-ability-walk-school-safely/37731670
The point I’m trying to make is that there probably is no solution to CA’s homeless problem, certainly not any that doesn’t involve a Himalayan sized dose of tough love. Which CA will never be willing to administer. What the future holds for the homeless prob is anyone’s guess, but there are examples in the third world for us to look at if we’re being honest with the direction we’re heading in.
Grats for voting with your feet.
I think your decision is more political than you're willing to admit.
Good on you. Head for the exits. Thank god for the automobile.
Not politically driven, when almost every reason to move was a direct result of bad political policies, may be a detached way of viewing it.
If he had said he doesn't like the weather or is afraid of earthquakes then I would believe it wasnt politically motivated, but yes, every reason he gave was political. Which is fine, just say so.
but if you stay largely blind to the specific reasons you can bring your misguided policies to the new location
Sadly, you have hit on a real problem with this.
Watching the flocks of Californian's flooding into Texas the last few decades, it is clear that many do not realize the root cause for their move.
They state "My company relocated" or "It got too expensive" or whatever surface issue was the visible impetus for the move.
Far too few have invested the few minutes of thought necessary to understand their voting habits are why they had to move somewhere else. So, of course, they bring those same shitty voting habits to a place they love and ruin it.
When I read that the author believed in sentencing reform and no jail for someone on drugs, I immediately thought that this guy would vote for George Soros-backed DA's, and likely voted for George Gascon.
Or Chesa Boudin
I can give him the benefit of the doubt that what finally pushed them to move is his or his wife's parents getting older and whatnot. The important thing is that he recognizes the awful state that California is in and why it's been brought to that state.
The problem is the kind of Californian that thinks the rest of the country should be run as Progressively as California but still just has to leave California because for some inexplicable reason all the jobs have moved elsewhere and the schools aren't so great and there's so much traffic and crime is rising and fires are burning and the power goes out all the time and there's never enough water and everything is just so expensive and so on.
This guy better not vote in Florida if he thinks his reasons for leaving CA are not political.
He is a poison snake to why he’d rather be in Florida.
Do NOT make Florida California. And since he thinks his voting habits had no effect on what made him leave California, I want to send him back.
If you can 'afford' to live in CA without worrying financially, (i.e. above or away from the lower class), by all means do so. For the elite and wealthy who like 'coastal' living, CA is the place to be. It's really more like a Country than a State.
California is where the tech jobs are, and it's where my mortgage is. As I edge towards retirement age, picking up and moving isn't a big option. If I were twenty years younger I would be gone already. If I had kids I would move for them. But all my extended family is here, all my friends are here.
But I'm definitely NOT retiring to urban California. If it ends up I never retire, then I'll stay here in Silicon Valley, but if I do retire it will probably be back to my home town, way east of coastal unreality zone. Cost of living is half as much.
A friend got out of California. Took his wife, kid, and newborn baby. He took his business with him. The business he created from scratch. Not a huge affair, but thanks to globalization, it does not need to be tied down in location. (Three cheers for globalization!). I know others who have gotten out. It's cascading.
With Newsom's win of the recall, the Democrats are emboldened to do whatever they want. And the tanking economy is going to drive even more away.
And where infantile 'BOTH-SIDES!!!!' assholes like Brandyshit are.
Leave! GTFO! Make CA a better place, TDS-addled piece of shit.
I'd far rather the infection not spread. There's no chance enough people will leave CA to make it better. There's a huge chance of enough people leaving CA to make other places worse. I'd say a 100% chance, in fact, because it's already happened to a number of places.
Dallas, Austin, Houston now leftist strongholds.
^This^
I will start packing the day I retire. Maybe a little before.
As your neighbor with a house in the Bay Area as well, I will also retire outside of the urban core, probably North a bit so that I can still reach the city and enjoy what it offers. Housing is 50% cheaper the second you pass the point at which people will not commute. So that's great for us both.
Having said that, it's not "cascading." Most of the people who left the Bay Area during the pandemic just moved to cheaper counties in California and continued working for their employer by telecommuting. California has had net positive migration for basically ever until last year, but that's already turning back around. The demise of California has been a staple of right-wing media forever but it never seems to happen.
Newsome's win in the recall isn't emboldening anyone. That's just more hyperbolic, right-wing propaganda. California has a Democratic supermajority in a system with legally mandated neutral redistricting processes (read: no Gerrymandering.) The state really is that liberal. The Democrats have been able to do what they want since the Governator left office. And you know what, our "tanking" economy had a surplus last year. Surprise! I do miss Jerry Brown, though. His second term was good for the state.
Please go to a 'workers paradise', slimy pile of lefty shit.
The demise of California has been a staple of right-wing media forever but it never seems to happen.
My favorite pastime is watching Californians tell themselves this.
Who knew that Utopia consists of huge income taxes, giant homeless camps and people shitting in the streets?
I can verify that everyone in Norcal moved south!
Does that include the billions wasted on a people mover train that went nowhere?
He wasn't called governor Moonbeam for nothing.
"As I edge towards retirement age, picking up and moving isn't a big option. If I were twenty years younger I would be gone already. If I had kids I would move for them."
There *are* good communities here in CA. We have great friends, and schools here in Irvine. I'd be out of here for the taxes and Newsance's propensity to fuck with our county, but I just don't have the heart to uproot my kids again. The community here, their friends, the Scouts, and various programs are just fantastic and while I know there is as good or better elsewhere in the country, I can't ask my kids to make all new friends their Junior year of highschool (and I've got three perfectly spaced, so that when the oldest graduates, the next one will be a sophmore, etc).
For all the problems in the schools, our county isn't too bad, and fought like hell last year to keep our schools open. While Mr WEISSMUELLER was in perpetual lockdown in Los Angeles, 20 miles south on the 405, we were going into restaurants and enjoying life.
My goal is to ride the Tech Paycheck for another 8 years until the kids are out of the house, then sell and head to the sun belt. There isn't a lot positive about being in CA, but the value of my real estate is one shining exception.
That all sounds like an excuse and I have no doubt it's fear driven. I left Cali two years ago, which was 8 years from retirement then and now it's likely less than six thanks to lower taxes and cost of living if Biden doesn't tank the markets. I'm an empty nester with one kid living in Asia and another living in the northeast. I got out of Cali because the shit and hassle was getting a little too deep - note, pre-Covid by a few months. Where? Not Florida but as a native New Englander, snow birds would say I'm half back in NC.
Yes the soviet style ABC is total shit but if you can slip across the border to Costco it's fine. Oh, not the northern border because VA is just as daft.
Come, there's a whole country to enjoy without the Cali B.S. and with so many companies accommodating remote workers it might even be an easy switch.
Oh I missed an important caveat. It's possible you need to stay until retirement if you're a state employee to ensure you get the massive payout Cali has promised.
I'll also point out that Cali's promises aren't what they used to be. The whole high speed rail to nowhere is a good example.
move sounds totes political in re-tell, but good luck in FLA
HEADLINE:
Florida man moves from Cali-land to... wait, what?
"I've reported extensively on California's policies, from the expensive and unreliable energy grid to the aggressive taxation and regulation, from the draconian lockdowns that permanently damaged small businesses a"
Yeah- it's too bad they couldn't just sacrifice more people like Florida has done.
If he's reported extensively on these things, he'd know that electrical deregulation was done under a Republican governor and it's this deregulation that has largely messed up our grid and our prices.
He'd also know that Diablo Canyon reactors were at the end of their current licenses and the cost to relicense was found to be a few billion dollars higher than installing renewables with battery storage. The solar plus storage facility is currently under construction.
As for the lockdowns... if he doesn't think the state has a legitimate interest in preserving the public health and he's personally opposed to that, by all means, please do move to Florida.
lol, yup it's those darn republicans that have caused all the issues in California. It's brilliant!
The eco-frauds have fucked up California for a generation, but yeah go blame republicans
As one grid official in Texas said when he read California's "deregulation" documents, "If this is what California calls de-regulation, then Texas doesn't want any of it.
The dude could afford a house in LA and he's white so he's going to fit in nicely in Florida and have few troubles with the locals since it's very much a state oriented towards wealthier people. In Florida, the "social safety net" is ancient and full of holes; don't rely on it. Poverty is seen as a moral failing in the coastal cities. The inland cities just stick with good 'ol southern racism to make themselves feel better. (Did I mention that I moved to Florida and then back to California?) What's really going to shock him out of his khakis is the cost of homeowners insurance/hurricane insurance. Over 60% of the state had been dumped by their insurance carriers and were having to buy the state-offered insurance of last resort. My homeowners insurance was double my property taxes there (and property taxes are *higher* in Florida.) And the California grid, which is entirely reliable when the power companies don't shut it down to avoid sparking forest fires, is going to be remembered wistfully when his power goes out regularly throughout the hot Florida summers as hurricanes take it out repeatedly. I've never lost power in the Bay Area in the last 6 years but in Florida, once the storm season gets rolling, it goes out almost weekly. (Free Advice: buy battery backup units for all your major electronics.)
Every state has its plusses and its minuses. That's how this country is supposed to work. Please do enjoy Florida; you'll find lots of people there will agree with your right-wing take on the world. There was lots about Florida I loved, especially some of the amazing friends I have there, but I left because my civil rights were being undercut by the Republican super-majority there and I was worried about my own family. I'll go back to visit, post-COVID.
Which civil rights were those?
I suspect the civil right to be forced to wear a mask and social distance-- which literally was one of the florida vs california arguments.
No doubt it's the civil right to own a backup generator that runs on fossil fuels. Then again maybe I missed something in the diatribe.
Then again if he can afford to own a home in the Bay Area he's a white and feels a need to come off as subservient to other races which would explain most of the rest of the blather.
Lefty bullshit contest between the assholes raspberrydinners and shawn_dude.
The both win!
I'm considering moving to Florida because I anticipate that my civil rights will be respected. In Colorado, I suffer because the government deems civil rights unimportant when there's a virus going around.
Why did you choose Florida over faster growing states like Utah, Arizona, and Texas?
He literally said he was returning so think family, friends, familiarity, blah, blah, things that people find comforting, etc.
Be honest Zach. How much of the move was prompted by AB5?
No matter, good on ya. You might have just gotten to Cali before me and left after but I won't hold your bullheadedness against you. Welcome to the free world. Congrats on picking a non-ABC state.
I spend a lot of time bouncing between CA and FL for work while living in another state. Choosing between the two is like choosing between crazy girlfriends. They can both be fun and they can both be scary. In the end though you're choosing between having your testicles super glued to your thigh or having them removed by a rusty kitchen knife in your sleep.
Congrats, Zach, for the move and I hope you and your freedom are treated well in your new home. Without having played the video yet, you and your Significant Other look like you make a sweet couple! 🙂
The people of California got what they voted for, nothing more, nothing less. They got an arrogant self centered political hack, related to another political hack, Nancy Pelosi,as governor who routinely shits on the people of that state, has allowed every city to turn into crime riddled cess pools and watched over the economic destruction of that state. Has allowed the homeless population to explode and literally failed at every step.
He is not alone. The mayor and city government of San Francisco has destroyed the city. It has no life, no economy and no real leadership. Instead the city is run by muddle headed liberals who legalized theft then whined when Walgreens announced they're pulling out. It won't be only Walgreens that is pulling out soon Krogers may be doing the same. Lost Angeles is just that.... a lost cause. Filled with homeless bums, drug addicts and the mentally crazed, block after block of shuttered stores with vacancy signs posted on the front windows. No one dares walk down the streets anywhere at night for fear of getting shot, stabbed or mugged.
Even Barbra Boxer isn't immune.
So keep it up Californians. keep voting for idiot liberals who couldn't run a bingo game.
You get the kind of government you deserve.
This was outstanding. My son and family recently made a similar move. A piece of advice that I gave him, and yes it was brilliant,: when you leave DON'T bash California. Nobody really respects that. Not he people where you're going and certainly not those of us still, um, stuck, here. It's fine to say, that you were disappointed with taxes, cost of property, our of control homelessness, an elite ruling class that act as if they are totalitarians or whatever. But don't lose your love for all the great things here. So I loved the approach here.
In other words: "I d like so many other Californians who left that state because we were being taxed and regulated to death, will move into red states, turn it blue and commence to pass the same tax and spend, over regulation that we created in California."
Get ready to see your cities and towns turn into L.A. or San Fran.
"Our job is to turn your red state blue by whatever means necessary."
We turned Colorado blue, we're turning Texas blue, then Idaho and Utah.We ruined California, Oregon and Washington like a plague of locusts.We wreaked havoc on New York and Virginia, Illinois and Minnesota.
Florida...you're next.
So happy for you. Now if you and the other fair-weather "Californians" ALL leave, maybe we can afford houses again! For real, though, every single problem you mention has been ongoing in California for like, 30 years. You just got mad that LA was strict during the pandemic. In fact, even though we had brutal restrictions on small businesses, a nice side effect of the pandemic was that a lot of people from other states bailed! Rent went down in my city since everyone from Ohio and shit went home.
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As California goes, so goes the nature, it has been said. I certainly do hope that the passage of time proves that bit of “wisdom” wrong.
By the way, back in ancient times, the late 1960’s/early 1970’s we lived there, Berkley and Oakland.
California, beautiful coastlines, nice weather, mountains, redwood and sequoias, wine country and great agriculture. Yet liberal policies screwed it up so badly people want to leave. It is a place of the wealthy haves and the have nots. No matter what Newsome says being an enemy of individual and economic freedom will drive away the taxpayers.
Thaks for this post
California it is a really nice place to live in. I plan to come here this Fall together with my family. Now we have some things to get finish so we can do it easily. I think to call movers https://zeromaxmoving.com/ and use their services to get relocated. Maybe anyone knows this company? Are they really good?