How the Epstein Files Turned MAGA Against Trump
Plus: Tariff rollbacks and the affordability debate, Trump considers direct talks with Maduro as unauthorized strikes continue, and a listener asks what it would take to move healthcare out of government hands
This week, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, and Nick Gillespie are joined by Reason reporter Eric Boehm to unpack President Donald Trump's sudden shift on the Jeffrey Epstein files after trying to block the vote, the GOP pressure campaign behind it, and what the episode suggests about his grip on the party. They also examine Trump's mixed signals on tariffs, including his move to roll back duties he imposed in the first place, and whether this moment reinforces the basic economic arguments critics have made for years. The group also digs into whether Trump's proposed tariff dividend makes any economic sense.
The conversation then turns to rising tensions with Venezuela as unauthorized strikes continue and Trump signals interest in direct talks with Nicolás Maduro. A listener then asks what would need to change in order to push American health care away from government-run insurance and toward a system shaped by private plans.
0:00—The Epstein files fracture Trump's coalition
18:12—Tariff rollbacks and stimulus checks
36:17—Listener question on government healthcare
47:33—More unauthorized military strikes in Venezuela
56:54—Weekly cultural recommendations
Mentioned in This Podcast
"Trump's Epstein Reversal," by Liz Wolfe
"Jeffrey Epstein: Trump 'Spent Hours At My House' With Victim," by Matthew Petti
"State of U.S. Tariffs: October 30, 2025," by Yale Budget Lab
"Trump's Tariffs Are Likely To Make Toys More Expensive This Christmas Shopping Season," by Eric Boehm
"The Trump Administration Finally Admits That Tariffs Raise Prices," by Eric Boehm
"Tariff Stimulus Checks Are an Unserious Idea," by Eric Boehm
"Wanted: Honesty on Health Care," by Shikha Dalmia
"What Free Market Health Care Would Actually Look Like," by John Osterhoudt
"How Making GLP-1s Available Over the Counter Can Unlock Their Full Potential," by Jeffrey A. Singer
"Presidential Drift: Clinton's Haiti policy has no anchor," by Nick Gillespie
"Don't Send Cubans and Venezuelans Back To Suffer Under Communism," by Billy Binion
"Maduro and His Crony Made Millions While Venezuelan Children Starved," by César Báez
"Britain and Colombia Cut Off U.S. Intelligence Access Over Caribbean Boat Bombings," by Matthew Petti
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Roll the tape of Biden inappropriately touching and sniffing young girls.
Oh, and Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck Joe Biden
Fuck Joe Biden
Fuck Joe Biden.
Fuck Don John Trump
Fuck Joe Biden
Are we trying to equivocate creepy-sniffing to statutory rape now ? Are you really trying to "whatabout" the Epstein list ? Only one of those actions gets you put in jail with Bubba. This is everything wrong with tribalism and political parties; George Washington was right.
That’s not what’s happening.
What rape? So far every dem pushed narrative has quickly fallen apart. Dem operatives on newscasts are being very careful with their words. Are you just a gullible retard?
You are a blind tribalist pushing tribal stories.
Statutory rape? Like when Biden was serially molesting his pre teen daughter in the shower? Or how about rep-rape of one of his staffers?
Do enlighten us.
Why are Democrats now siding with Epstein, out of curiosity?
OK, they ALWAYS sided with him, so I guess that is not a change.
"statutory rape"
WHAT RAPE?
Do you have an arrest, or a charge, or a witness, or even a coherent timeline for the accusation that doesn't lean entirely on anachronisms being present?
She was a Soros operative paid to smear just like your bosses.
Believe all women!
Except Ashley Biden.
And all the Epstein list victims who say that Trump never touched them.
Which is all of them.
The walls are closing in. Again.
Believe the photo of Ivanka sitting on Trump’s lap and Trump having a boner.
Don’t forget Biden rape victim Tara Reade.
Boy are you a dumbass
Read the pages of him showering with his daughter who was possibly molested, her words.
"Biden was worse. That makes whatever Trump did ok."
Ummm. You defended Biden and even claimed he and democrats have more in common woth libertarians.
Are you drunk again?
Are you drunk again?
Is it a day that ends in Y?
Trump helped the FBI go after Epstein while you democrats protected him. So yes, what Trump did was ok, you worthless retarded drunk.
Of course, you’re a massive hypocrite for saying anything here. Given how you beat your ex and abused your own daughter.
To be fair Sarc is a violent idiot, so he has an excuse for the abuse.
As did the tall handsome cop who beat the shit out of him, and then went on to fuck his wife after she left Sarc. Sarc’s abused daughter probably calls him ‘daddy’ now.
And now Sarc has transferred his jealous/homoerotic feelings onto Jesse.
Biden's creepiness made it okay for Trump to fuck underage chicks.
Trump didn’t do that. But we can talk about Biden’s molestation of his daughter, and his rape of Tara Reade. You want to discuss that, cunt.
Poor flailing shrike who claims he doesn't pust carry dems water. Once again pushing their false narratives blindly.
"Trump fucked underage chicks"
Who, when, where?
This isn't Huffpo. People don't just automatically believe DNC smears without some type of evidence, Sarckles.
"Biden's creepiness made it okay for Trump to fuck underage chicks."
OK to steaming piles of lying TDS-addled shit like you.
Hey, let's just make up shit without evidence
Let's see a source to an article for that claim. All I see is Trump banging super models, a half decent looking porn star and some other very beautiful full grown women.
Whole lot of wish casting going on considering so far we have found out that Bill Gates, Lawrence Summers, Bill Clinton, Stacy Plaskett and Temu Obama Jeffries loved them some Epstein. BTW, this sets up Temu Obama to lose his primary against that queer black maoist next year. At the least he will be challenged and lose his Minority Leader post now that Nancy doesn't have his back.
"...what would need to change in order to push American health care away from government-run insurance and toward a system shaped by private plans."
I can answer that. We would have to go whole hog on the view that some people don't deserve health care. People who haven't recently been able to boost their personal wealth by 1000%, for example, and people whose jobs don't provide health care coverage. We could also conclude that some people don't deserve other kinds of benefits that should be available to everybody.
And we would have to tell the rest of the world that we don't care much about them either. We are exceptional, and we get to make up our own morals.
I quote Jack Marshall.
https://ethicsalarms.com/2017/06/20/california-ethics/
The Sacramento Bee pointed out that by replacing current state-run health programs with a single-payer system, the state would still need to come up with an additional $200 billion annually.This year’s state budget in California is about $180 billion. Yes, implementing a single-payer health care system would require doubling California’s current tax burden.
Oh, never mind! The state Senate voted 23 to 14 this month in favor of SB 562, a single-payer proposal that would guarantee universal health care to all Californians. “What we did today was really approve the concept of a single-payer system in California,” declared state Senator Ricardo Lara following the vote.
No, what they did was reaffirm the fact that progressive cant refuses to yield in the face of cold, hard facts, math, reason and common sense. The cheerleading from the Left is mind-numbing. Writes the Nation: “If health care is a right—and it is—the only honest response to the current crisis is the single-payer “Medicare for All” reform that would bring the United States in line with humane and responsible countries worldwide.”
Well, let’s see: health care is NOT a right except in Left-Wing Fantasyland, and all of those “humane and responsible countries” have crushing tax burdens, reduced liberty, economic instability, crushing debt and completely different values, priorities and responsibilities than those of the United States.
Ethics is only ethical when it is practical and practicable in the real world. The ethical response to the fact that single-payer doubles the state budget is to say, “Oh. Well, obviously we can’t do that, then. On to plan B.”
If California can not do it, what makes you think Delaware or Connecticut or Vermont could?
Left out of the article and price tag is California pledging to cover all illegal aliens which will bankrupt any system. California promises to cover all illegals, their health care system goes bankrupt and they then beg DC for money.
And we would have to tell the rest of the world that we don't care much about them either.
We don’t. As a matter of fact, there have been many occasions where we were actively killing them.
“Deserve” has nothing to do with it.
And if you’re advocating that medical care is a right, a hearty: Fuck off, slaver.
It's certainly a right in the sense that the gov't should not deny anyone the freedom to seek care.
You can seek most things, it doesn’t mean you have a right to it.
In uncivilized backwater societies it isn't. Also in societies run by inept, antisocial, underresourced, impotent right wing rejects its not.
Modern, educated, advanced, smart and attractive societies, however? Those where streets are clean, roads maintained, healthcare accessible and not able to ruin your life with the bill, people educated and healthy, women attractive, children safe at school and police presence at an elementary school not required (good god, so cringe), individuals happy and not on their knees begging for more than 2 weeks of vacation a year? good god, americans are so comically retarded with "muh freeedommm, reeee" and "waaaaah, i cant be a selfish greedy hermit in a civilized society, thats socialism waaaaahh"
In magic land everyone is safe, has everything they need and never has a sad. Also, no one ever comes and changes anything.
In right wing land, caring about others and having minimal social cohesion and rights for commoners is 'magic', while the rest of the civilized world already practices this 'magic', and has been for decades.
lmao you guys are SO behind xD
Imagine coming to a libertarian comment section and not knowing what rights are. You’d have to be pretty stupid to do that. And you are!
lol the shining light of your outstandingly witty rhetoric is melting my face 😀 Rights are what you make them to be. Outside of right-wing island, we-have-no-women and are fat and frustrated and outcompeted, it is possible to make a case that healthcare is a right. Better, more advanced societies have understood this. The US will grow up after your residue has been sufficiently reduced.
Why don't you cruise up to Canada or over to England for some of that awesome "Healthcare Right" you want?
It is good to have women raped by illegals and to cover it up. ALSO great to have underage girls trafficked and to cover it up.
That is how your betters act.
What isn’t what? You’re not even reading what you responded to, fucking retard.
LOL reading comprehension fail. Education standards aren't very high on penguin island, are they? 😀
No, you’re just a raving Marxist retard. So your lack of comprehension is understandable.
As social democracy, a tried and tested model for a society, is well on its way in the us, you will understand the difference between that and marxism in due time. It has its own kinds of flaws, but it has been working in pretty much all other 1st world countries for decades and has been extremely popular. Europeans barely felt 2008 and laughed at your pathetic dysfunction and instability, haha, you fucking pathetic corporate slaves and compensatory, big pharma supplied drug addicts, mentally ill degen population, hahaha.
Don't worry, social democracy won't hurt, unless others being miserable and having significantly less than you is a prerequisite to your happiness.
Well, youre a magat though, so i guess, yes, it will hurt.
Are you stupid? A social democracy is not a "tried and tested model" unless you mean as an abject failure everywhere it's tried.
Imagine actually believing this. You’re even more delusional than I thought.
Sad.
Lol yeah the earth is flat and europe doesnt exist lmfao you sad retard xD
Europe? Where rape is OK if the rapist is of the right complexion?
Yeah, hold them up. Please.
How can you have a right to the labor of others?
So...NOT blue cities? Got it.
The problem is the insurance companies are the current slavers and they are able to force the prices of insurance through the roof for profit and they don't care about the people.
Have an answer to the insurance issue?
There is no health care problem, it is an insurance and cost problem.
What is your fair share of what someone else has worked for?
Thought about the taxes applied to unhealthy foods and products? Where do they go? If you pay them should you get separate care or a discounted insurance bill?
Why would tax payers pay to benefit insurance companies?
America does not have a health care problem. It is an insurance and cost problem.
Great, you pay for everyone. I don’t owe you shit, and I’m sure as fuck done paying for all the illegals you and your fellow travelers let in.
"I dont owe you shit! Haha! See how im sticking it to you! Ha ha ha!" Says the angry child, the seething right wing child, the one who never grew up and therefore stinks, which women can smell, so they nevee gave him a chance, and that is a good thing. Carry on, faded out and abandoned, carry on.
Imagine thinking the world can run on unicorn farts and then calling someone else childish.
Yeah, all other first world countries run on unicorn farts. I think you are running on your mommies right wing farts lol you are a triggered angry little bitch 😀
So…. would you prefer to be boiled in a vat of acid, or burnt at the stake?
The powerless, foul-smelling lust for violence of those that have been cut off for good by modern, better people.
You're ruined. I love it.
Or we could point out that Daddyhill is an imbecilic asswipe who needs to fuck off and die.
What it would take is some breakthru, or series of breakthrus, that made health care broadly so much less expensive that it would stop being a major issue. That's it. As long as the latest and greatest health care is a large chunk of people's average lifetime expenditures, they're going to clamor to socialize its cost in an inescapable way, not by availability of insurance for purchase.
91% of health care is subsidized.
Insurance companies profit and fail to provide the funding for the level of care required by those who pay the fees.
You are subsidizing insurance companies profits.
There is not health care problem, there is an insurance and cost problem.
"You are subsidizing insurance companies profits."
You really should grow up:
"BUT WHO GETS THE PROFIT? D'Souza absolutely guts core Marxist argument"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYbambvmWMs
Got your retirement invested in lotto tickets?
Nah. Deregulate. Start by eliminating the misnamed health insurance racket. (Properly understood, they are not insurance plans, they are third-party payment schemes.) Make health insurance actually insurance again. Disentangle health care payment plans from employment compensation and allow individuals to purchase actual insurance in a freer market. Amputate the ADA and eliminate artificial caps on the number of doctors that can be licensed. Allow freer competition by eliminating certificates of need and other roadblocks to building hospitals and private practices. And etceteras.
What do you think about pre-existing conditions? There are a bunch of genetic ones that are not anyone’s ‘fault’ for eating too much. Without healthier people paying more to a pool than they ‘need to’ people with ‘pre-existing conditions’ just can’t afford to live (unless they are rich). Are we back to social Darwinism?
Having a pre-existing condition does not entitle someone to special treatment and certainly does not entitle someone to the labor and resources of others.
Charities. Remove government and extortion ("healthier people paying more to a pool than they 'need to'") from the health care market and charitable giving will flourish. Shit, if they got a good enough sob story GoFundMe is an option.
There's certainly something to be said for getting out of the way of natural selection.
You cannot deserve what someone else has to work to provide to you.
You are a retard of the highest level that insults other, lower level retards. Don't "deserve" health care, you moron? Deserve has nothing to do with it, fuck nut. Healthcare is a commodity provided by other people. That means you MUST steal from some to give healthcare to others. "Boost their wealth"? Here's a concept, dick shit, wealth is created. People aren't running around stealing your money, you jackass. They create the wealth they have. What right do you have to take it. Also, clearly, YOU don't give a shit about people because instead of giving people your wealth to help them, as used to happen, you demand jack-booyed things come into everyone else's home and steal it. Fuck off, you rancid, boot licking pile of human feces.
Social Darwinism it is for 100.
Workhouses and Poorhouses all desperately underfunded as in the 1880s are at the end of that plank.
I saw this same narrarive at MS now and the NYT. Weird.
Almost as if news outlets are reporting news. Inconvenient news you'd rather ignore. The reality is, Trump is dirty as fuck and so are lots of other rich and powerful people. And as more documents come out the picture will get clearer. But you retards will just deny and deflect.
The funny thing is, we people calling for the release of the Epstein files don't give a fuck if Bill Clinton and other shitheads on the Left go down with Trump because we're against sex trafficking no matter who partakes. But you partisan retards think that just because Leftards are guilty that somehow absolves Magtards so you think somehow pointing out "but Clinton" is actually an argument that works with us.
More like the outfits are comforting to push the same narrative, using the same talking points and specific agreed upon phrases.
They’re idiots and drones. Just like you. Scepter useful, unlike you.
You clearly need help, and here it is:
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html
Lol, you right wingers not only have no point, quite chronically, but you are also pointless - and are therefore being faded out. Women and voters doing gods work.
Im sorry being selfish like your mom and dad taught you doesnt work in a society that is just smarter, more educated and more attractive than your mom and dad, a society that has simply moved on from your mom and dad.
Imagine being so ignorant you think society is becoming more educated.
Outside of penguin island, it is. You have no idea whats coming your way ahahahaa 😀 😀 😀
And what would that be? More inane screeching and vapid faggoty from you and your faggot friends? If you want more violence, please give us the excuse we need to exterminate your kind.
No Marxist has a right to exist.
Oozing with radicalized, impotent, right-wing rage, I fucking love it 😀
Demographic shifts. That's all it takes. You will hate it deeply, you will be devastated, because you hate what others just accept as normal, as progress, as the winning side of history. YOU HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED as hating it for a long time now, and we know that you already are deeply miserable because others will continue to shove progress down your throat against your will, and djt has cemented that change, and you cannot comprehend this because you are too mentally deviant to relate to anyone that has even a shred of care for others. Carry on.
If the last ten months is ‘winning’ for you, then I want to see more winning. Oh, na did you get too uppity and become more violent, we will execute every last one of you.
Or maybe you would like to take us on one on one? Do you have the balls for that Arty? Because I would love a legal pretext to end you.
Djt taking over the repubs and destroying them from within is the biggest win the dems could ever hope for.
The rest of your post is just more of your impotent desires for violence and is soon to be forgotten.
You’re a hilarious raving faggot. It’s going to be hilarious when you get rounded up and put in a detention camp. I’ll bet you cry and beg like Sarc when he has the shakes.
Women?? AHAHAHAHA. Holy shit are you dumb.
Democrat lies and narratives are news? Like race hoaxes, trump Russia, soldiers ar losers, hunter laptop is fake, etc? All those dem lies are news?
Poor shrike.
For not carrying democrat water you sure do love defending obvious lies.
You are a dumb cunt. Just want to make sure you're aware of that.
big trouble in little trump make you mad? 😀
The only trouble is what will happen to you. Best you cower under your rock.
Yaaaawn
Hiding under your rock must make you lethargic.
You are a dumb cunt. Just want to make sure you're aware of that. Fuck off and die, asswipe.
If you can say this shit with a straight face after the last 8 years, your dumber and more delusional than anyone can imagine. Just like they reported on Covid? Or Russian collusion? Or "bloodbath." Or Nick Sandmann? I could go on and on. You're a mother fucking retard.
NPR is running with it too.
Really, I see only one explanation about this that makes sense. Trump was never trying to protect himself. So much has been released about Trump that was faked that there's no real chance there is anything real against him. Therefore, he was trying to stop some fallout that would come from this coming out. There are a few possibilities
1: Prior presidents. If Obama, Biden, or Clinton are confirmed to be there and he pushed the release, it would look like revenge.
2: Current Incumbents. How many congressmen or judges were involved? What chaos would that cause.
3: Foreign heads of state. We know Prince Andrew was involved. Who knows who else? How many of our allies will we alienate with this?
In any of these cases, now it's outside of Trump's hands and he's being forced. Therefore he's partially shielded from the blame.
Of course there is always one final option
4: Spy organization. If it is revealed that this was an organized operation to catch any of the above groups. Now we will be requiring a purge and arrest of a large number of our own DOJ.
#4 - a foreign version of the J. Edgar Hoover files.
Those guilty will try to skirt being held responsible.
It's never Trump's fault. It's more likely to be a huge elaborate conspiracy starting literally decades before Trump had any political ambitions and involving many of the richest and most powerful dudes, just to catch Trump decades later, than to be Trump's fault.
You’re a dumb cunt. Were you aware of that?
More water carrying to justify democrat lies. Weird.
You’re a dumb cunt. Just want to make sure you're aware of that.
Except it was an elaborate conspiracy starting decades before Trump entered office. We know that it was. The primary actions of this happened under Clinton and Bush administration. We know that there were numerous prominent individuals involved and an active cover-up.
The only question is how far the conspiracy went.
I don't know what this obsession with Trump was when we know for certain that there were at least dozens of public officials involved.
"I don't know what this obsession with Trump was when we know for certain that there were at least dozens of public officials involved."
TDS among the lying piles of steaming shit.
This WAS a huge conspiracy that started literal decades before Trump entered politics.
We know this. They were looking into Epstein in the 00s.
When Trump was still pretty much a Democrat, and thus, beloved of the hivemind.
And the people who first brought up those pics of Trump and Epstein weren't Democrats.
There is also just the distraction from whatever he is trying to get done though that also works against him as the media flips on whether they're important or not to just be in opposition.
My thought is the filers were largely wiped, like with a cloth, while in FBI custody.
There is no doubt that the democrat controlled FBI destroyed evidence. This is why democrats cannot be allowed to participate in government or law enforcement.
Trump loves revenge! If there was stuff in there more damaging to Democrat big shots than himself or his friends it would be out there in a minute.
All I really want to know about this retarded Democrat fetish is where in the hell did Epstein get his money? That will explain about everything.
You really need to get rid of Nick Gillespie. You complain about Trump being disparaging, but you have this buffoon on staff who is worse that Trump. At least with Trump it's a bit tongue in cheek versus the unbridled hatred.
Frankly, you could get rid of both of them and I would be fine. I really hate having to defend Trump fro idiots like Nick Gillespie who have an over inflated opinion of themselves and there is no level too low that they would stoop to to try and achieve their goals.
Nick Gillespie is more toxic that Trump. He is also less genuine and less honest than Trump. Even though Trump is not my cup of tea, I get riled up over these twits like Nick Gillespie spouting off their partisan biases pretending that they have the moral high ground and the condescending tone and ho he personally attacks 1/2 of the country as being morons.
Nick Gillespie, if you want to look at a moron, you only need to look in the mirror. You have gotten much worse since the election and frankly you are a huge part of the problem. It's difficult to listen to any nuggets of truth when your demeanor is so blatantly unreasonable. It would be reasonable and beneficial for Reason.com to remove you, Nick Gillespie, the lying grumpy curmudgeon that you have become.
Reason.com should not have a vendetta against any politician. Everything should be about issues and only issues. There is more than enough partisan coverage with all the partisan spin out there. The niche for Reason.com should be solely on issues, not personalities.
The truth is that even the most vile personality has moments that may not be redeeming, but well not vile. Except, partisan hacks like Nick Gillespie will never mention when a vile person does something right, but spins it into a negative. Nick Gillespie should probably seek employment elsewhere, where deranged partisan hacks belong. There are plenty of corporate media that propagandizes and uses the dirty tactics that Nick Gillespie espouses through his actions.
Reason.com should not become an also-ran. Nick Gillespie is moving Reason.com into irrelevance.
Have you seen almost all of the other writers? Gillespie is a fair representation of what this outlet has become.
what files? T is maga if the morons want to desert T were they ever with T?
Turned "MAGA" against Trump? So, if Trump only had the support of MAGA, and MAGA is now "against Trump", lessee, carry the 9... Trump has zero support now. None.
Reason has gone full blown TDS.
Now that Trump seems to be weakening, Reason seems to be less willing to "normalize" him. Maybe someday you'll notice that he's destroyed the "First American Republic". We're now in the Era of Trump, to be known to later generations as the "Years of Shame". Not sure what we're going to look like when all this is over.
Reason was never “normalizing” him, get the fuck outta here.
No way you typed any of your drivel with a straight face.
Nice try though.
Cool story bro. Got anymore democrat fan fiction you would like to puke up.
"Reason seems to be less willing to "normalize" him."
Amusing to see rando commenter discussing how the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES has some need to be "normalized".
How can your living space contain your ego?
Ooops. This wasn't quite what the Democrats wanted. I guess they'll have to try again. I wonder who they will scoop up next time.
"HEADLINES : “Former Harvard President Lawrence Summers will step down from his public commitments amid ties to Jeffrey Epstein’s network."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/larry-summers-stepping-back-public-commitments-jeffrey-epstein-emails-harvard/
The democrat elite are teeming with child molesters.
The WORLD elite are teeming with child molesters. It's been that way for thousands of years.
N the short term I’ll settle for euthanizing the democrat pedos.
Remember when QAnon saying that was a "conspiracy theory"?
QAnon may have been nutjobs --- but they were always right on that one.
Cool I’ve always despised that prick.
Even when given the opportunity democrats will never try to save themselves from themselves because they are blinded by hate.
With a complicit media backing them, they will throw any narrative they like and expect everyone to simply believe them.
They have become accustomed to this and will not stop until they are held accountable.
Commenting here not because I subscribe anymore or really care about Reason magazine, but because its so fun!
This is a Reason wet dream. All the writers at Reason want to do is find the "smoking gun" that would let them tell all us dummies that THEY were right about Trump all along! Turn MAGA against Trump? That's laughable.
Add Reason to the long list of publications that would literally take self destruction rather than admit they were wrong and are wrong about Trump. You all can't be replaced by AI fast enough. Wait, you already have been. That's where my $ are going.
"This is a Reason wet dream. All the writers at Reason want to do is find the "smoking gun" that would let them tell all us dummies that THEY were right about Trump all along! Turn MAGA against Trump? That's laughable."
Spot on 100%! Thank you grthomps for your insight. Thank you for not being fooled by the endless propaganda and gaslighting they try to pass for journalism every single fucking day. And it really is stunningly easy to see the propaganda for what it is. Bravo! Keep having fun!
Aren't libertarians supposed to believe in privacy? No files should be released unless criminal charges are being filed against specific persons based on that information. And any individuals not being charged should have their names redacted from those files. There is too great of a potential to smear friends and associates who may have engaged in no criminal wrongdoing themselves.
It is still something amazing that so few recognize that Trump has just gotten the left to demand, strenuously and loudly, that their list of crimes be screamed from the rooftops.
This take aged like unrefrigerated fish.
Epstien & Maxwell: lure underage girls into sex trafficking by giving them 'jobs' as massage therapists for rich clients.
Trump: Kicks Epstein out of Mar a Lago for taking his underage girls who were giving massages to him and his rich friends.
Trump supporters: TRUMP IS THE TRUE HERO HERE!
Rest of the world: 0_o
Is that what Rachel Maddow told you to think? Or maybe The View?
Just accept it. Your party are all pedophiles. Republicans, including Trump, are not. Your kind are always sick debauched creatures in need of burning at the stake.
Your own Shrike here is a proven pedophile.
Donald Trump told the world he kicked Epstein out for 'taking his girls.' Why nobody is asking Trump why he had underage girls working massages at his prvt club is anyone's guess.
Guess it's all just a big ol' mystery.
This time they've got him.
You’re so desperate. Care to address the unearthed email just released with the files where Joaquin Jeffries solicited Epstein in 2013 for campaign contributions in exchange efforts a private dinner with Obama?
Nah, you’ll memory hole that and keep making up lies about Trump. Like your party, you are, or are with, the pedophiles.