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Murder

To Honor Charlie Kirk, Reject Cancel Culture

Plus: Trump and governors threaten social media regulations, activists push blacklists and firings, and how to resist apocalyptic politics.

Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Matt Welch, and Nick Gillespie | 9.15.2025 5:00 PM

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This week, editors Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Nick Gillespie, and Matt Welch confront the aftermath of Charlie Kirk's assassination. They open with reflections about the history of political violence in the U.S. and whether reactions online are amplifying fear rather than clarity. The panel critiques early attempts to pin the blame on social media—highlighting Trump and Utah Gov. Spencer Cox's calls for new restrictions—while contrasting them with Colorado Gov. Jared Polis's argument that responsibility rests with individuals, not platforms.

The panel also considers how quickly tragedies get folded into pre-existing narratives, and whether calls for broad regulation risk undermining civil liberties without addressing the real problem. The conversation then turns to attempts to punish speech, including proposals to fire public-university employees and revoke licenses for those who made offensive remarks about Kirk's death. A listener question about the books on the panelists' shelves offers a brief detour, with each host highlighting a few favorites in view of the camera.

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0:00–The role of social media in Charlie Kirk's assassination

18:15–Crisis politics and the growing censorship creep

39:30–What is the path forward?

52:30–Listener question on host's bookshelves

58:00–Weekly cultural recommendations

 

Mentioned in This Podcast:

"Social Media Didn't Kill Charlie Kirk", by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"The Standard for 'Vicious' Speech Trump Laid Out After Kirk's Murder Would Implicate Trump Himself", by Jacob Sullum
"What the Messages on the Bullets of Charlie Kirk's Assassin Mean", by C.J. Ciaramella
"Charlie Kirk and America's History With Political Violence", by Nick Gillespie and Matt Welch
"The Killing of Charlie Kirk: 5 Idiotic Responses on Social Media", by Robby SoaveWhat If "We Acted Like Political Violence Was a Problem?", By Matt Welch

"The Apocalyptic Faithlessness of Trump/Bannon Conservatism", by Matt Welch

"Politically Motivated Violence is Rare in the United States", by Alex Nowrasteh

 

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Peter Suderman is features editor at Reason.

Katherine Mangu-Ward is editor in chief of Reason.

Matt Welch is an editor at large at Reason.

Nick Gillespie is an editor at large at Reason and host of The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie.

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  1. Chumby   5 hours ago

    Not a surprising take from Matt “red wedding on conservative journalists” Welch.

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    1. Groovus Maximus   4 hours ago

      What more do you expect from a eunuch?

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      1. Chumby   27 minutes ago

        Not much from Dicked magazine.

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  2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

    Stop exposing the death culture and insanity of the left seems to be the argument Reason is going with. Kirk did just that often. So please tell us how you were all followers of him.

    It is private companies choosing to fire after exposure.

    It isnt Biden or the dems pushing threats of government for misusing pronouns or talking badly of vaccines.

    Why is there is much push back now than during the covid censorship you all fucking denied for years?

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  3. Groovus Maximus   4 hours ago

    To Honor Charlie Kirk, Reject Cancel Culture Assassination

    FTFY.

    The platforms are fine as is. Public shaming of self-evident sociopaths both tacitly & explicitly approving the murder of a noted Free Speech 1A kinda guy doesn't rob them of speech, but may, oh, I dunno, cause one to reconsider future consequences of at, the very least, spectacular lapses in taste & judgement.

    Is this how Matt Welsh (H/T Sevo) manages to be an unsightly hanger on, despite his, "Red Wedding" banquent for known conservatives, ahem, "suggestion?"

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

      Has he ever even admitted he said it since he did?

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      1. MasterThief   4 hours ago

        Not in Reason, but he argued with a few people replying to his tweet.

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      2. Groovus Maximus   4 hours ago

        His testicles are still in France...

        So. No, not to my knowledge.

        Fruit Sushi is more of a man than Welch is.

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        1. Rick James   3 hours ago

          And an out and proud conservative...

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    2. MasterThief   4 hours ago

      To honor Charlie, reject leftism and embrace religion and family. Reason chooses to pervert the moment to their priorities rather than read the fucking room. This "cancel culture" is about not associating with people who have shown they want conservatives and libertarians dead. It is really tedious to keep reminding Reason of this inconvenient fact to their narrative.

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    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

      a noted Free Speech 1A kinda guy

      Are you talking about the guy who created "Professor Watchlist" so as to chill the speech of certain professors?

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professor_Watchlist

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      1. damikesc   2 hours ago

        So, holding up statements by professors, made by said professors, is bad? Got it.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

          Could be good, could be bad. Either way, not exactly consistent with being "a noted Free Speech 1A kinda guy", is it?

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          1. damikesc   1 hour ago

            I did not say he was one.

            He tried to talk to your side and you killed him for it.

            Moral: Do not try and talk to your side unless you're well-armed.

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      2. Groovus Maximus   2 hours ago

        Listing a gaggle of profs is not the same as quelling speech.

        Nowhere does the Mission Statement say, "They MUST self-censor!" Now, if they say something that either the uni and/or those that fund it find objectionable & hold them accountable, well, that happens in a free society, no? Nobody said they couldn't say whatever; conversely, nobody has ever guaranteed immunity from consequence either, in this context.

        Seems like more an informed consumer, "Buyer Beware," type list. Like the FDA listing side-effects & adverse reactions for a drug or group of drugs.

        I'm sure you're a fan of prof disclosure for the benefit of the individual, like say, a potential student, yes?

        Your ability to manufacture straw leaves The Steppes in awe in wonder.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

          Listing a gaggle of profs is not the same as quelling speech.

          No, it is chilling speech. Which is the whole point of the "watchlist". And inconsistent with being "a noted Free Speech 1A kinda guy".

          Also, Charlie Kirk was in favor of Trump revoking the AP's press pass because they refused to do the Gulf of Mexico name change in their reporting. That doesn't sound like a "free speech" kind of position.

          His "debate college students" schtick was an act.

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          1. Groovus Maximus   1 hour ago

            You're a real pip...

            1) Nothing is being "chilled" (and yes, I can both read & parse). Period. Full Stop. End of Story. A college prof is a position of power; I, as an informed consumer, would be interested to know such things.

            They said it, they own it. If they didn't want it advertised, perhaps they should have exercised more discretion as per locale, or verbiage. If what's said cannot survive scrutiny, then perhaps their ethics & character are questionable; consequently, putting their competency as a prof into question.

            Freedom to say or do is *not* immunity from consequence.

            2) That was an official change of designation for geography. I would think holding the press accountable for factual reporting of geographic locale official name is desireable, if not imperative.

            3) His encounters at the scores of colleges he visited were part of his Mission Statement as per TP-USA.

            You're dishonest as the gravity your fat deposits generate, Sir Cumference.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 minutes ago

              Nothing is being "chilled"

              Oh that's bullshit and you know it. Professors have power over the students in the classroom, yes, but university administrators have power over professors. And that was the real intended target of the "Professor Watchlist". It was to create so much bad publicity and outrage that administrators would fire or punish the professors over their speech so as to make the publicity go away.

              holding the press accountable for factual reporting

              That's not the government's job. That is a CORE COMPONENT of the First Amendment - the government doesn't get to decide which speech is "true" or "false" using its coercive power.

              Sure there are reasonable arguments to be made in favor of Charlie Kirk's positions here. They are just not the arguments that someone who is a "1A kinda guy" would make.

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          2. Groovus Maximus   52 minutes ago

            ADDENDUM:

            TP-USA was well within their 1A rights to publish known, factual, information WRT those profs. Anything else would be libel, therefore, actionable.

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  4. AT   4 hours ago

    No.

    A year ago, sure, I would have agreed with you.

    Not anymore.

    I truly believe in the United States. I am now 100% convinced that large swaths - large blue swaths - have ZERO interest in that. They hate us, they want us dead, and they celebrate when we die. And celebrate even harder when we're murdered. The exact same way jihadists do.

    I will no longer defend that element of America. They have no interest in unity, no interest in peaceful coexistence, no interest in rational debate, no interest in the Constitution or its Rights - and it's now past time pretending like they do. Does that make me a hypocrite? I don't know. Maybe. I've always objected to punishing people for wrongthink.

    But I don't think we're actually talking about wrongthink anymore. I think they've crossed into actual evil, and those who want to obfuscate it by bastardizing the virtuous principles of things like 1A.

    So, I'm done. I've always loved and respected LOTT for what she does. She reposts the evil and horrific thing that evil and horrific people say and do. She holds up the mirror. If there are now serious consequences for those evil and horrific people - good. Blacklist them. Fire them. Go full on McCarthy on the subject. I don't care anymore.

    I'm beyond sick of this perversion of goodness and freedom that rationalizes killing people and celebrating it under the auspices of serving the Constitution.

    A: "Kill that man."
    B: "OK."
    C: "Why did you say that!?"
    A: "1A."

    Screw that. Time to burn Speaker A to the ground.

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

      I truly believe in the United States. I am now 100% convinced that large swaths - large blue swaths - have ZERO interest in that.

      Finally, the mask has slipped completely away. This is the end result of MAGA-ism. It is the weaponization and politicization of the concept of patriotism itself. It is the belief that a true patriot must have a specific set of IDEOLOGICAL beliefs, which just so happens to align with nationalist Christian conservatism. Those with views that disagree, are insufficiently loyal to the Republic and are labeled as traitors.

      This is the end goal of MAGA - a culturally homogeneous America, where most people agree with most things, and stifling social conformity is the norm. Those who disagree are scared to express their disagreement in any way for fear of retaliation.

      This is a big reason why you are called fascists. Because you cannot tolerate dissent and disagreement. Because you want to label any substantive disagreement as equivalent to treason. Because you just don't want to live with other people that aren't virtual clones of yourselves. You want a "pure" America. It's just not the racial purity that the Nazis wanted, but a cultural purity.

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      1. damikesc   2 hours ago

        "Finally, the mask has slipped completely away. This is the end result of MAGA-ism. It is the weaponization and politicization of the concept of patriotism itself. It is the belief that a true patriot must have a specific set of IDEOLOGICAL beliefs, which just so happens to align with nationalist Christian conservatism. Those with views that disagree, are insufficiently loyal to the Republic and are labeled as traitors."

        No (weird how basically every response to you starts with you being wrong), it is a statement that we have TRIED to find common ground and your side has decided they do not wish to do so. You, INSTEAD, would rather kill a centrist conservative who tried to reach out to you and, rather than condemn it, you have tons of monkeys on your side celebrating it and then whining it when consequences follow.

        YOUR side needs to tone down its rhetoric, but it will not. We do not trust any of you. We have no reason to.

        "This is a big reason why you are called fascists."

        Your side CELEBRATES and defends a guy who murdered somebody for speech.

        There is nothing more fascist than that.

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      2. Marshal   1 hour ago

        This is a big reason why you are called fascists.

        They're called fascists because unprincipled assholes call their enemies the worst thing they can think of.

        Because you cannot tolerate dissent and disagreement.

        It's just bizarre leftists can't apply their standards to themselves. They've driven all dissent out of every institution they control. But leftists are only interested in criticizing their enemies, never in evaluating everyone according to consistent principles.

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        1. Minadin   57 minutes ago

          If they didn't have double standards . . .

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        2. chemjeff radical individualist   41 minutes ago

          But leftists are only interested in criticizing their enemies, never in evaluating everyone according to consistent principles.

          I guess that makes you a leftist then.

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          1. damikesc   20 minutes ago

            Leftists MURDER people for saying things they do not like.

            Tell me MORE about the fascism.

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          2. Marshal   16 minutes ago

            I guess that makes you a leftist then.

            I see your perfect record of failing to accurately analyze anything is intact.

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      3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 hour ago

        Conservatives can't retain their teaching positions for failing to use preferred pronouns, or denying climate catastrophizing...

        Let's say a hypothetical middle school teacher or untenured college lecturer had posted a celebration video after the death of George Floyd (or Mike Brown, Trayvon, etc) which said the following - "One more dead worthless N***** we won't have to feed and house. Good riddance!"

        Would this person have kept their position? should they? How would black parents feel about them educating their kids?

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        1. Groovus Maximus   46 minutes ago

          Would this person have kept their position? should they? How would black parents feel about them educating their kids?

          1) No.

          2) No.

          3) I doubt *ANY* decent parent would object to such a person instructing his or her child, regardless of race. I would imagine a black parent in particular would find this highly objectionable & evidence of bias in instruction & poor character.

          I would feel the same if said hypothetical teacher said that Iryna Zarutska deserved her fate from a racist nutjob who stabbed her in the neck for no other reason than her racial demography.

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          1. Groovus Maximus   33 minutes ago

            Correction:

            "I doubt *ANY* decent parent would *NOT* object to such a person instructing his or her child...."

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        2. chemjeff radical individualist   6 minutes ago

          The racism analogy doesn't quite hold up to scrutiny here. A teacher who expresses overt racism should be fired because bigotry against a person based on race is based on the target's intrinsic qualities that the person has no power to change. A person who disagrees with a POLITICAL view does not fall into the same category. People have the choice whether or not to believe in the views that they choose to believe in. Besides, your apparent standard here would disqualify anyone from making any criticism of any political view, because someone somewhere is going to be offended that THEIR view was criticized - why should that person want their kids taught by that teacher? It means ultimately that teachers lose all voice in both their professional and private lives.

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      4. AT   1 hour ago

        This is a big reason why you are called fascists.

        Because you don't know the meaning of it????

        You want a "pure" America. It's just not the racial purity that the Nazis wanted, but a cultural purity.

        What's wrong with cultural purity?

        If one culture says, "Torturing and killing small animals is awful" and the other says "Torturing and killing small animals is a neat hobby," which culture is correct? Which culture is superior? Which of those two cultures is more pure?

        Heck, I'll make it easier for you:

        If one culture says, "I would like to speak on college campuses and advocate Christian conservative viewpoints without being shot in the neck for it" and the other says "Nah F that shoot him in the neck, piss on his corpse, and desecrate his memory," which culture is correct? Which culture is superior? Which of those two cultures is more pure?

        Which one do you want to have as your neighbor?

        You don't get to babble about "cultural purity" when YOU'RE the one shooting people in the neck, Jeff.

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  5. Stupid Government Tricks   4 hours ago

    When did speech cease being the proper response to vile speech? Is telling the world about vile people and their vile speech not the counter speech we are always told about?

    If those vile people didn't want anyone to know what they said, they could have just not said the vile things they said. Are they not proud of the vile things they said? Do they not want the extra publicity they are getting for the vile things they so proudly posted for the world to see?

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  6. Idaho-Bob   4 hours ago

    This will be the Reason sermon for awhile. Leave the left alone, they should not be held accountable. Charlie would've wanted it this way.

    The left murdered Charlie. Now you fuckers get the rest of us. The lesser tolerant is in the bullpen and warming up.

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    1. sarcasmic   4 hours ago

      When the left cancels people it’s a crime.

      When Trumpians do it it’s divine retribution.

      As always you determine right wrong based upon who, not what.

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   3 hours ago

        Fuck off , sarc.

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      2. AT   3 hours ago

        You don't get to hide behind the children anymore, jihadi.

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      3. Chumby   2 hours ago

        Your beloved Biden used govt to coerce employees to cancel people. Folks supporting the debater, who was assassinated by a team blue rainbow cultist, are asking employers to review any employee that felt it appropriate to celebrate the murder of said debater. With you, it is always the who known as team blue.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

          I'm sure the guy who wrote the sarcastic tweet of, "is the gun safe?" deserves to be canceled for "celebrating".

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          1. Chumby   2 hours ago

            That isn’t your decision to make no matter how much gaslighting you do about the team blue rainbow cultist member assassinating Charlie Kirk and its aftermath. The employers are making shared collective reasoning decisions whether they want to retain toxic people representing their brands. You are free to hire any and all of the recently unemployed.

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   9 minutes ago

              Sarc is just scared he is next.

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  7. sarcasmic   4 hours ago

    Democrats did it first. That makes it ok.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   56 minutes ago

      Same old tired shitty strawman. Sarc, find a new batch of straw, fuckhead.

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  8. Rick James   3 hours ago

    How do you do, fellow kids... isn't this Cancel Culture thing like, the worst?

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    1. Groovus Maximus   3 hours ago

      Nick looks like Boris Karloff from Universal's, "The Mummy," (Yeah kids, THE OLD ONE!)

      He has not aged well. The Jacket itself looks less leathery....

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  9. Rick James   3 hours ago

    *raisess hand*

    Missus Mangu-Ward... can we do it just for a little while so they'll finally have to admit that it exists AND that it sucks?

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

      But they aren't going to "admit it sucks". Instead they will double-down on it and do it harder next time. That is the natural result of the tit-for-tat game theory, right?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   54 minutes ago

        Just like you do? You always double down on your bullshit, obfuscation, changing the subject, and false equivalencies.

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  10. rbike   3 hours ago

    I am all in on it. Firing them is great. Loving it.

    Anyone dumb enough to post stupid things online deserve all they can handle.

    And, yes, I take this personally as they would definitely want me dead too.

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    1. AT   3 hours ago

      That's the funny thing about it. Normies don't do that kind of thing in the first place. Sure, maybe some fringe ultra-MAGA alt-right incels do - and by all means, hold them to the same standard.

      What the left - including Reason - hates about all this, is that it's revealing that this is the norm among the American Left. They're absolutely desperate to try and kick that particular dirt under the rug, trying to gaslight us against the fact that we can all plainly see the glaring lump under their rug.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

        it's revealing that this is the norm among the American Left.

        But it's not. Go ahead, go to the "Charlie's Murderers" site and read some of the comments. You will find a few that are actually horrible comments and should be condemned. But the big majority of the comments are either sarcastic, mocking, or pointing out some of Charlie's worst takes. They aren't "celebrating" anything. They just aren't grief-stricken.

        But you, safely ensconced in your right-wing bubble, are told that the one guy who was cheering on video, is representative of ALL who didn't join in with the grief. That's just not true.

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        1. AT   1 hour ago

          They just aren't grief-stricken.

          Why not?

          Dude got shot in the neck. Why aren't they grief-stricken?

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   25 minutes ago

            Here's a thought experiment for you.

            Let's imagine that Ibram X. Kendi, noted "antiracist", is murdered tomorrow.

            Would you be sad? I can imagine, maybe a little.

            Would you condone the murder? I would imagine, probably not.

            Would you be grief-stricken? Would you attend a candlelight vigil in his honor? Would you scour the Internet for people making sarcastic comments about him and try to get them canceled? Would you go to the Reason comment forums and make angry denunciations about the murder and how he didn't deserve to die like this and how this means there's just some people who don't really like America anymore? Probably not.

            In fact, you might even think "well, I don't approve of his murder, but I am kinda glad that he's not indoctrinating college kids anymore." I think that's a possibility.

            What do you think?

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    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

      And, yes, I take this personally as they would definitely want me dead too.

      Who wants you dead?

      The people who are actually celebrating his death? Possibly.

      The people whom you claim are "celebrating", but are actually just pointing out some of Charlie Kirk's views that they viewed as horrible? Probably not. They're probably just limited to hating on Charlie. They probably don't give a shit about you.

      The people whom you claim are "celebrating" but who really are posting sarcastic remarks? Definitely not. They are just being Internet smart-asses.

      But it's good to know that right-wing victimhood culture is alive and well. Take a few people who said some horrible things, and you immediately extrapolate that to THEY ALL WANT TO MURDER ME.

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      1. damikesc   2 hours ago

        You've shown that you will kill when given the chance.

        Forgive the Right for not just assuming things have not changed after your side killed a man and celebrated it.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

          after your side killed a man

          So, you now know for certain what Tyler Robinson's motives were? At first we were told he was some left-wing radical. Then the story was, he's a Groyper. Now the story is, he's a gay militant angry about Charlie Kirk's anti-homosexuality positions. So which "side" is this side supposed to be?

          and celebrated it.

          Of course, your side is doing its damnedest to define "celebrating" to mean "any comment that wasn't effusively grief-stricken.

          Tell me, do you think the sarcastic comment of, "is the gun safe?", constitutes "celebrating" his murder?

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          1. damikesc   2 hours ago

            "So, you now know for certain what Tyler Robinson's motives were? At first we were told he was some left-wing radical. Then the story was, he's a Groyper. Now the story is, he's a gay militant angry about Charlie Kirk's anti-homosexuality positions. So which "side" is this side supposed to be?"

            Well, Nick Fuentes condemns the killing outright, so a Nick fan seems highly unlikely. His family and friends say he was left-wing on pretty much everything. ALSO, The ONLY people supporting it are the Left. YOUR side loves that the man was murdered. Sure, his young kids saw it, but hey, his fault for having kids, right?

            Perhaps applauding a guy who murdered somebody is something your side should, you know, avoid doing. But you do not. And you have no problems with it. That is OK.

            You've changed the equation. We are adapting to the situation your side initiated.

            "Of course, your side is doing its damnedest to define "celebrating" to mean "any comment that wasn't effusively grief-stricken.

            Tell me, do you think the sarcastic comment of, "is the gun safe?", constitutes "celebrating" his murder?"

            Hey, we are just remembering that is now HILARIOUS for somebody we oppose to be murdered. We should not CONDEMN such activity --- we should champion it.

            Welcome to the world you've built, jeffy. As I've said a lot in the past --- you will not like the rules you have set up here.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   50 minutes ago

              Well, Nick Fuentes condemns the killing outright, so a Nick fan seems highly unlikely.

              Nick Fuentes does not control every single one of his followers. So this fact, even if true, does not disprove the claim that Tyler Robinson could have been a Groyper.

              His family and friends say he was left-wing on pretty much everything.

              This claim is based on a Guardian story that was retracted, because the source they relied upon for this claim proved to be unreliable.

              https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/paper-retracts-claim-suspected-kirk-173533310.html

              ALSO, The ONLY people supporting it are the Left. YOUR side loves that the man was murdered.

              Go read the "Charlie's Murderers" site and tell me how many of those entries come from people who could be fairly judged as LOVING that Charlie Kirk was murdered. Go on. You will find it was maybe a handful. Besides, that some people were not upset that an act occurred, does not mean that those same people CAUSED the act occurred. For example I was rather pleased that the Sun rose this morning, however, I did not cause the Sun to rise this morning.

              And I can tell by your hyperventilating response that you agree with me that no, the sarcastic comment of "is the gun safe?" should not reasonably be considered to be "celebrating" anything. Other than bad sarcasm, perhaps.

              I am not a conservative, so I am not interested in condemning every comment that makes me sad, I am not interested in creating a society of bland conformity. That's you.

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              1. damikesc   18 minutes ago

                Who on the Right is celebrating the murder?

                The celebrants are exclusively of the Left.

                The assassin was a Leftist. That is not even a dispute at this point. To claim otherwise is to be a mendacious liar. I know where I expect you to fall on that.

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                1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   8 minutes ago

                  I still remember when jeff and shrike celebrated Herman Cains death due to covid.

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                2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 minutes ago

                  The assassin was a Leftist. That is not even a dispute at this point.

                  Yeah it is in dispute. The single source that claimed he was "left on everything" was found to be unreliable and the story was retracted. I even presented the story to you. I'm not surprised that you ignored it.

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          2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 hour ago

            We all knew immediately, you stupid worthless gaslighting twat.

            The anti fascists messages on the bullet casings were a further clue, before we even knew his name

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   48 minutes ago

              You all ASSumed immediately.

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          3. Minadin   51 minutes ago

            https://babylonbee.com/news/media-says-motives-unclear-of-killer-who-wrote-manifesto-entitled-here-are-my-motives

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          4. Minadin   47 minutes ago

            There have been so many videos and posts of leftists celebrating it openly, that it's almost surprising to see you try to deny it.

            Almost.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   31 minutes ago

              I'll be honest, I haven't seen a single video of anyone legitimately "celebrating" Charlie Kirk's death. But then again I don't watch Fox News.

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              1. Marshal   21 minutes ago

                Maintaining tactical ignorance is a key strategy on the left.

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                1. damikesc   17 minutes ago

                  He does one better. Chemjeff foregoes the "tactical" part.

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                2. chemjeff radical individualist   3 minutes ago

                  You would know a lot about "tactical ignorance". You don't even know who your enemies really are and you choose not to find out, instead presenting only simplistic caricatures.

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      2. AT   52 minutes ago

        They're probably just limited to hating on Charlie. They probably don't give a shit about you.

        https://x.com/Black_Pilled/status/1965880897548485042

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  11. TJJ2000   3 hours ago

    Cancel Culture.
    [WE] didn't do it! It was all Trumps Fault! /s

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 hours ago

      I blame the tariffs.

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  12. tracerv   3 hours ago

    Seriously. Fuck off with this shit. Reason is truly a gaggle of cunts.

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  13. damikesc   2 hours ago

    So, private entities are NOT sacrosanct, now?

    Proud enough to shoot a video and post it? Don't whine if somebody shares it.

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  14. Chumby   2 hours ago

    Charlie Kirk assassin Tyler Robinson reportedly admitted his guilt in his Discord chat just 2 hours before he was turned in:

    “Hey guys, I have bad news for you all. It was me at UVU yesterday. I’m sorry for all of this. I'm surrendering through a sheriff friend in a few moments. Thanks for all the good times & laughs.”

    - WaPo via Live Leak

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    1. damikesc   1 hour ago

      I think him refusing to talk to the authorities is going to be a very poor idea.

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      1. Chumby   1 hour ago

        Not sure anything he does now is going to change the outcome.

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    2. AT   60 minutes ago

      Stop using his name.

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  15. Chumby   36 minutes ago

    Round 3 of People Employers Found Toxic

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bXcSFbrsePk

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