Alton Brown: A Culinary Legend Offers Food for Thought
The Good Eats host talks about the virtues of Cap'n Crunch, why fusion cooking isn't cultural appropriation, and how Martha Stewart's perfectionism ruined dinner parties.
Our guest today is Alton Brown, who for years hosted Good Eats on the Food Network and brought his interest in science to the making of dinner. He's currently touring the country, and he has also just published Food for Thought, a great collection of essays about food, culture, and his life on and off the screen. In this episode, Reason's Nick Gillespie talks with Brown about how food transcends politics, why fusion cooking isn't cultural appropriation, and why there's always room for Jell-O salad on his menu.
0:43— Brown's Last Bite tour
1:55— Brown's new book: Food for Thought
6:40— Curiosity and surprise are essential to life
12:03— The pizza that made Alton Brown
16:21— When Indian immigrants made kadhi that blew Brown's mind
18:57— The positive case for 'cultural appropriation'
26:53— Food media's impact on cooking skills
30:40— How Martha Stewart's perfectionism ruined dinner parties
32:07— Julia Child, Mr. Wizard, and Monty Python
39:56— Good Eats motivated food exploration
48:19— Ozempic & the moral value of restraint
51:01— USDA & FDA were created to support industry, not consumers
55:28— Southern cuisine and Jello salads
57:00— On being from the South and embracing its full history
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My family attended one of Alton's tour stops a few years back - greatly enjoyed it. My son (10 at the time maybe?) absolutely loved it. Alton fans here.
Guy taught me to make great scrambled eggs and wear a hat when cooking bacon. Ok in my book.
RE: eggs.
Same thing for me. My brother gifted me “I’m Just Here for the Food” in college; it’s when I learned how to make really great scrambled eggs to this day.
Then I discovered Anthony Bourdain and he made cooking (and food travel shows) cool as hell!
As a watcher of all things Alton Brown for years, it was a real treat to interview him. I highly recommend his new book, Food for Thought, which is a mix of memoir and culinary writing, and explores why food is so central to our individual and group identities. At many times both in the book and the interview, I started thinking about very specific food memories that are as strong as any I have.
Let me know if you're interested in me talking to more guests in this vein. And if so, who are they?
Sam Harris?
Or are you thinking of more Creatives?
If Sam Harris is going to be on the podcast, it won't be Nick's decision. It will be the clockwork of the universe inexorably driving to that conclusion.
Haven't listened yet, but if I had to take a wild guess who on the Food Network might lean libertarian, Alton would be my first guess by a mile. Kind of a hard ass by comparison to his colleagues, and logic-based.
If I'm on death row, I'd much rather have Bobby Flay cook me my final meal. If I'm in the voting booth, I'd probably rather see Alton.
Neil Gaiman
Or Neil Stephenson for a less controversial Neil.
The Hungry Soul: Eating and the Perfecting of Our Nature
by Leon R. Kass
Doctor-turned-teacher Kass (Committee on Social Thought/Univ. of Chicago) serves up a stimulating treatise on the anthropology and ethics of eating. In the tradition of ancient philosophers of the good life, Kass suggests how rituals of eating bring the wisdom, friendship, and transcendence that our hungry souls desire
Shawn Fanning of Napster fame. So many directions to go in that one.
Transcript please!
As a gay aspiring aristocrat who owns nine different types of wine glasses, I think there’s a place in culture for Martha Stewart’s perfectionism. There are plenty of opportunities for people to drink piss-flavored beer from truck beds.
Love Alton though. I watched his pandemic-era vlog every week.
Did his wife make him say that?