Robert Draper: The GOP Needs a Post-Trump Reality Check
The Weapons of Mass Delusion author says election-deniers like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert may be the Republicans' future.

Has the Republican Party lost its mind—and its way—in its slavish devotion to Donald Trump, who insists that the 2020 election was stolen from him through extensive voter fraud?
That's the question that journalist Robert Draper investigates in his new book Weapons of Mass Delusion, which looks at rising Republican stars such as Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R–Ga.) and failed Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake, who are diehard Trump loyalists, and established party leaders such as likely Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy, who is openly terrified to cross the former president.
I spoke with Draper shortly after the midterm elections, in which the GOP had an unexpectedly poor showing against a massively unpopular Joe Biden. Is this a sign that Trump's hold on his party—and the country—is weakening? And is there any reason to believe that the party of Ronald Reagan and Barry Goldwater may return to its small government roots?
We also talked about Draper's 2014 New York Times Magazine cover story, "Has the Libertarian Moment Finally Arrived?," which prominently featured me and Matt Welch.
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We also talked about Draper's 2014 New York Times Magazine cover story, "Has the Libertarian Moment Finally Arrived?," which prominently featured me and Matt Welch.
Did it feature any libertarians?
Ha! Good one! You really zinged them!
When tiny minds reduce politics to a left-right paradigm, the only possible explanation for criticism of one side is support for the other. That's it. That's why libertarians don't exist. They're all hardcore leftists due to their criticism of Republicans. Unless you're a leftist. Then libertarians are all hardcore conservatives because they think people should be free to keep their own money and spend it however they choose.
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Libertarians exist. That doesn’t mean calling yourself one makes it so.
When tiny minds ignore the mention of a third party, Libertarians, so they can bring in the two straw parties ...
... yep, another sarcasmic ramble.
There is a difference between libertarian and Libertarian. One is a political philosophy, the other is a bunch of stoned anarchists.
And you’re neither.
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Or it could be that you support literal outright Marxist policies and claim anyone who doesn't agree with you is a right wing Republican Nazi Trump supporter, because you're a stupid piece of shit alcoholic who self-admittedly has too short an attention span to finish an elementary popular economics text written at a 7th grade reading level.
Coming from the guy who spent 3 years trying to make CACL a thing...
Did it feature any libertarians?
Can I answer a question with a question?
Why would you want to?
Why do you care?
What a clown Draper is. Nobody "debunked" election fraud complaints. The mantra that somehow the courts did is a lie, as they just refused to hear the cases.
Anyway, five years of the Democrats screaming "Russian fraud" and "#notmypresident" didn't hurt them, why is this going to hurt Republicans?
And Nick uses the language of the left, like saying ‘election deniers’.
Why wouldn’t Social Libertarians use the approved terminology that the Democrats have already workshopped?
You know, like “undocumented migrant”, “sex worker”, “COVID misinformation”, “climate change”…
It's hilarious. They do it to bring up references to holocaust denial, forgetting that they've built a massive coalition of blacks and Muslims who loudly and proudly deny the holocaust.
House minority leaders is a known election deniers. Will we have a single article on it?
"election-deniers"
Boot lickers gonna lick boot.
Republicans, do as your told! Reason is awfully antsy to get back to beating on DeSantis and his cult.
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Reason contributor Brendan O'Neill:
I recognize the name, so I know Brendan O'neill has contributed to Reason in the past, but I can't recall seeing his name on any recent articles. In fact, it looks like the last article he contributed was in 2018. Weird...
He's too much of an actual libertarian for the liberal-tarians here like Shackford, ENB, and Gillespie.
An argument for reeducation of the other.
Gfy, Robert Draper and everyone else too self-important to listen to and respect American voters.
>>Republican Party lost its mind—and its way—in its slavish devotion to Donald Trump
lost its mind and its way putting 41's kid in the chair. really, letting 41 have 40's chair.
Did you do the same thing for every election denier from the Democrats from at least 2000 or is this a Republican only standard? How do you trust a party that consistently fights any and all election security measures and somehow mysteriously and repeatedly benefits from midnight drops of ballots in favor of the DNC that would make the North Korean dictator blush from the audacity.
um, no court of law has proven midnight drop ballots so you're incorrect.
Fact-checkers: Boxes were actually dropped off at 1 am. We rule this FALSE.
What does any of that have to do with helping
Brandonwhoever and Kamela get re-elected?A post-Trump future for the GOP looks awfully familiar. Imagine if Bob Dole, either of the Bushes, John McCain, Mitt Romney or John Kasich* or anybody but Trump had won the Presidency. You want something different out of government but you keep electing politicians. You know what doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results is the definition of?
*Did you know his father was a mailman?
And does anyone here think for a minute that, if any of those guys did win instead of Trump, the regime libertarians would have anything good to say about them?
You know what doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results is the definition of?
Persistence.
the TDS is bleeding through the screen on every reason post. It's pretty wild
The really wild part is he's been out of office now for 2 years, yet they just can't seem to move on.
If you are referring to Donald J. Trump, he just announced that he is running for a second (third?) term as President of the United States. But, hey, we should totally move on...
So that 2 year interval where he wasn't president and hadn't declared his candidacy but still occupied 16-18 hours of your day, every day, 7 days a week, was totally normal and justified! You're not a paranoid moron, Trump really *IS* out to get you!
Boebert and MTG are not the future of the GOP. They are the remnants of the Trump effect, which is finally dying away.
All parties go through upheavals and changes. Lately it's been those in the Repub Party who have felt the most ignoring flexing their muscle with the election of Trump. However, such extreme shakeups don't last long as they tend to burn fast and hot and thus, die out quickly.
As Trump goes away, so does the MTG and Boebert type of coattail riding.
Yeah, that whole wing of the Democrats that spent 5 and a half years breathlessly repeating the lie that Donald Trump colluded with Vladimir Putin to hack voting machines in 2016 and steal the election from Hillary Clinton just vanished into the ether with no lasting legacy.
You really should keep your gaping cock mongler shut. All you do is expose what an incredibly fucking stupid subhuman sack of shit you are. It's hilarious that you spend so much time fighting with the kiddie fucker since you literally believe the exact same partisan bullshit he does. You both should really kill yourselves.
At this point, I'm really thinking Reason and the rest of the regime libertarians need the reality check. You've been pitching increasing tantrums for the last year or so about how Republicans and conservatives need to "get over" Trump. Bottom line here? Why should they give two craps what you guys want them to do? You had your chance to have a say with conservatives. That whole "Libertarian Moment" thing? That was a thing wholly amongst conservatives. Your proggie friends weren't getting any more liberty-loving. Quite the opposite. Y'all rejected them. Y'all played fast and loose with libertarian principle to undermine them. There shouldn't be much surprise when conservatives conclude libertarian principles are BS when libertarians themselves treat those principles like BS.
So, they moved on. And your proggie friends still aren't that into liberty. You might as well close up shop. You've alienated your potential customer base in favor of a market that ain't buying. Maybe Vox or the Huffington Post is hiring.
Well said. It didn’t bother me that Reason criticized some things about Trump. I get it, open borders uber alles doesn’t jive with a border wall. But he also ran on and delivered no new military actions, criminal justice reform, and lower taxes and regulations.
And how did Reason react? They chose the guy that’s got a 50 year record of supporting forever wars and the war on drugs, and higher taxes and spending.
You’ve alienated your potential customer base in favor of a market that ain’t buying.
Ah yes, the Disney/ Lucasfilm Star Wars marketing strategy: alienate existing fans in favor of blue haired weirdos who are not now, nor every will be, Star Wars fans.
Now do Hillary and the entire DNC since 2016, and Stacey and the entire DNC from Georgia.
There is a ray of hope: This wasn't written by Sullum, and it relies on a third party to do the heavy lifting.
But let's try an alternative lead:
Looking at his portfolio Robert Draper is not a journalist he’s a dime a dozen democrat hatchet artist.
What is the purpose of parading his book on a libertarian site?
"What is the purpose of parading his book on a libertarian site?"
Celebrating the Reason staff's TDS once again.
GOP obsession? Did you forget how Trump won the primary? GOP can't stand him. He best echoed the sentiments of the voters and rose from the bottom to the top by doing so. That's how he won despite regularly shooting himself in the foot and why he's going to win again in 2024.
We aren't obsessed with him at all. Ds keep bringing him up and investigating him. I'm obsessed with smashing the current GOP and that's why I'll keep voting for wrecking balls until the party changes.
I'm betting no Republican ever wins the presidency again. There were dubious votes that put Biden in. There were screamingly dubious votes in the midterms and all were abetted by the D.C. GOPe , who don't want nobody nobody sent. They've shown they're unwilling to do their job when in power and get paid just the same when out of power. I'm perfectly happy to see that portion of the swamp wiped out and wouldn't mind seeing Trump taking a huge chunk of his 75 million voters and run third party.
The Libertarian Moment is kind of like flying cars or manned missions to Mars: always ~20 years away.
Funny how a socialist can get elected but the only libertarians are republicans who are about to get expelled by their constituents.
Has the Republican Party lost its mind—and its way—in its slavish devotion to Donald Trump, who insists that the 2020 election was stolen from him through extensive voter fraud?
The obvious question here is why do libertarians even give a fuck.
It's been 6 years since the escalator descent, you'd think that Reason would realize that there actually was a permanent realignment, and it that it won't include them. Following that, they should have no interest in the party. And yet, here we are.
you'd think that Reason would realize that there actually was a permanent realignment, and that it won't include them.
I think this is mostly accurate. Using rough class analysis, the new battle lines are the technocratic New Class and their clients versus the traditional middle class and "haute proletariat". Fundamentally, the former has little or no use for libertarianism much beyond pot, Mexicans and butt sex. There's probably a place for libertarians in the latter side. But, the Reason staff has so wedded itself to the Bourgeois Bohemianism and urban cosmopolitanism of the technocratic New Class that there's really no way they can reconcile themselves to any sort of alignment with "those people".
no talk of the countless examples of democrat “election deniers”? there are way more of them that republicans.
"Robert Draper"
Why should I know who this is and why should I care? Seems to be just one more TDS-addled shit, AFAICT.
Isn't he the guy from that TV show?
Oh my god, stop using "election deniers". It is such a sleazy, lazy bullshit term. As far as I can tell meant to evoke Holocaust deniers. Which is some dirty politics if I've ever seen it.
These people aren't denying that an election happened. They are questioning its process and legitimacy. I'm not convinced myself, but it is possible that at least some of their claims are true.
It's fucking lazy and retarded to just go find the craziest shit you can find anyone saying about the election and present it as if that's the majority of people questioning things. There are legitimate questions about the integrity of elections in this country and they have not all been answered to my satisfaction, at least.
Just Reason doing there job.
Yeah, there were serious problems with that election, it's not a delusion — any more than CoVID-19 was, for instance.
And then calling those who engaged in a sit-in in Congress "insurrectionists"!
Yeah, the constant use of "insurrection" in much media also pisses me off. At least Reason doesn't seem to follow that trend, mostly calling it "capitol riot" or something like that. Which is fairly reasonable (though I like your characterization as a "sit in" because that's pretty much all that happened inside the Capitol.
Has the Republican Party lost its mind—and its way—in its slavish devotion to Donald Trump, who insists that the 2020 election was stolen from him through extensive voter fraud?
So now it appears that the official narrative is shifting to “there was no extensive voter fraud”. Interesting.
What can we do, bribe Reason back to their senses? Trump:
yet HyR thinks he's a plague on the GOP and nation?
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The Democrats Needs a Biden Reality Check
No Democrat has ever won a nationwide election without voter fraud.
No evidence of voter fraud will ever be found because 100% of the people tasked with looking are partisan Democrats.
Voter fraud is literally treason, and deserves public execution.
Just so everyone is clear; the GOP Secretaries of State in various red states tasked with running elections in those states (and investigations post-election) are in fact democrats? The third party investigators (Cyber Ninjas) in Arizona over the last presidential election were democrats also?
This is pretty interesting news. Better tell them as they have their identities and political alignments rather confused.
How long will this far-Left website continue to call itself "Libertarian"? Reason.com is not Libertarian, no, it is Progressive propaganda.
Robert Draper is delusional. Election denial is a reality on both the right and the left and it REALLY is the same thing. It has escalated as all political protests have, but Robert Draper denials that the election denials by the left are completely different is laughable.
There is a real double standard that is very clear and observable. Trump was a mediocre president and not the root of all evil. Sure he is narcissistic and crass. Obama was narcissistic and condescending. Biden is narcissistic and losing his grasp on reality.
All presidents have problems, but if you listen to the corporate media they spin another narrative. Anti-Trump is in reality Anti-Republican. Trumps presidency was effectively a 4 year election denial operation conducted by the corporate media, the Democrat party and many embedded government bureaucrats.
Personally, I dislike Trump and never voted for him. Unlike many people that does not make me supportive of the Democrat Party. Instead I dislike Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden even more. Basically none of these candidates deserve my vote and are all extremely poor candidates.
Robert Draper is part of the problem, not libertarian, but rather a progressive.
As soon as he said the word "insurrection" I stopped listening, because I knew he wasn't someone to take seriously.