'This Is What Democracy Looks Like. And It Kinda Sucks.'
Plus: Peter Suderman may or may not attempt a rendition of a famous rap from the movie Bulworth.

In this week's The Reason Roundtable, editors Matt Welch, Peter Suderman, Katherine Mangu-Ward, and Nick Gillespie survey the political landscape ahead of the midterm elections.
0:31: Key midterm issues
11:50: Most laughable major party pre-election pitches
29:28: Weekly listener question:
"How small, of all that human hearts endure,
That part which laws or kings can cause or cure.
Still to ourselves in every place consign'd,
Our own felicity we make or find:" —Samuel Johnson
My pithy query is this: do you think candidates would attract the 8–15 percent of independents by refreshingly stating their actions in office will have little to no effect on individualized happiness? For example, Democrats and Republicans have squabbled over tax cuts—a somewhat nominal 39.6 to 37 percent for the top rate, while federal spending on every single mandatory and discretionary program has remained relatively unscathed, but the tax cuts are held up as an Us vs. Them when discussing policy. Will cynicism ever prevail?! Are there any real-life Bulworth examples? Thank you!
49:45: This week's cultural recommendations
Mentioned in this podcast:
"Neither Democrats Nor Republicans Have a Clear Advantage Going Into Election Day," by Elizabeth Nolan Brown
"'Election Fraud' Can Become Our Awful New Hyperbole," by Bonnie Kristian
"California's Anti-Vaping Ballot Question Isn't About 'Protecting Children,'" by Steven Greenhut
"Herschel Walker's Unseriousness Overshadowed What Should Have Been a Serious Race," by Joe Lancaster
"A GOP-Led Congress May Focus on Owning the Libs. Instead, It Should Focus on Owning Inflation," By Veronique de Rugy
"Turning 'Saving Democracy' Into a Campaign Slogan Isn't Helping Save Democracy," by Eric Boehm
"The Death of Social Security: Debating Bush's plan for private retirement accounts," by James Glassman and Tyler Cowen
"How Georgia's Outlandish Ballot Access Law Is Protecting Marjorie Taylor Greene (and the Two-Party System)," by Eric Boehm
"Morris P. Fiorina: Why 'Electoral Chaos' Is Here To Stay," by Nick Gillespie
"Still Fab: Why we keep listening to the Beatles," by Charles Paul Freund
"Long and Whining Road: The Beatles, the boomers, and boredom," by Nick Gillespie
"Has the Libertarian Moment finally arrived?" by Robert Draper
Send your questions to roundtable@reason.com. Be sure to include your social media handle and the correct pronunciation of your name.
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I thought that I couldn't like Suderman even less. But here we are.
Because he is a rapper?
I posted my first rap effort last week here. I didn't copy it though. It went something like:
Fatass Donnie
He take yo money
He like da COVID
and the PPP
He cut da taxes
For Musk and Zuck
Shit, I forgot the rest of it.
I know. I commented on your first attempt.
Should I look for an agent?
For the love of all that is good, not on your life. You aren't even white and nerdy, much less 2Pac or Dr. Dre.
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There's probably an agent looking for you.
No, the FBI was told not to concentrate on child abuse crimes anymore in favor of harassing abortion protestors, remember? So there isn't an agent looking for Buttplug anymore.
Yes, look for Agent Orange and take it.
So are you mentally prepared for the ass-kicking that's coming your way tomorrow, you down bad, value brand Ron Jeremy lookin' fat little pig?
Mikey, you don't know me.
I LOVE GRIDLOCK.
GOP House? Dem POTUS? hopefully Dem Senate?
PERFECT.
Gridlock, sweet gridlock.
Useless "investigations" and no legislation!
I love it!
You ARE THE PARTISAN TEAM RED asshole.
You can spend the rest of your sad, miserable, pathetic life telling the same lies over and over and over again, and no one here is going to believe you, asshole. You're the biggest running joke in all the comment section and too fuckin' stupid to know it.
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Trump broke the brains of the left. It's causing people to do this. I feel like the weak minded are incapable of doing much more than helplessly reacting.
You know who else took full advantage of electoral politics despite firmly believing that democracy kinda sucks?
Ceaucescu?
Winston Churchill?
Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.
Monica Lewinsky?
For example, Democrats and Republicans have squabbled over tax cuts—a somewhat nominal 39.6 to 37% for the top rate, while Federal spending on every single mandatory and discretionary program has remained relatively unscathed
Truth! You read my posts.
"Both parties suck" is rare for a H&R reader but I live it.
I use "quibble" instead of squabble though.
Yeah, they read your posts. You got banned for posting kiddie porn.
To be fair, the democrat party is steadily moving towards a pro pedophile agenda. So Shrike is their kind of guy.
>>Democrats and Republicans have squabbled over tax cuts ... but the tax cuts are held up as an Us vs. Them when discussing policy.
ya, Us who get screwed by tax policy and Them who write it. parameters ...
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Lemme guess, the answer to the "pithy query" doesn't address who was advancing the "Government shutdowns are expensive." narrative and who took a pass and will neither apologize nor make good on the civil and fiscal destruction wrought by reluctantly voting for lockdowns and mandates.
Yep... It does suck. The USA isn't a "democracy".
It's a **CONSTITUTIONAL** Republic.
The once great/awesome nation of the USA has been conquered by Nazi(National Socialist)-Empire building democrats.
The Republicans might be loosing their focus on a CONSTITUTIONAL USA but at least they aren't proud treasonous invaders entirely happy to put the USA under a foreign (i.e. [WE] mobs RULE!) form of governing.
So I'm 16 minutes into this thing and the gravest threat in the election is that "election deniers" will change voting laws at the state level to ensure Trump wins in 2024. Wow.
Philly DA Krasner announced there will a heavy police presence at Phila. polling places to ensure no voter intimidation. Lots of overtime pay, body armor , surveillance cameras and all. A reporter asked about any known threats and all he could do was dissemble.
Oh, of course the NBC station threw in shots of J6 rioters with the clear implication that "insurrectionists" were going to descend on Philly to keep Dems from voting.
Here in Georgia, we just passed a law that chicks and darkies can't vote. Gonna be a wipeout with only white males being allowed to vote.
Got to 19 minutes in and gave up. J/6, TDS, Orangeman bad. Beyond silly. I'll admit I've never actually wasted 19 minutes of my life on a Reason podcast. Believe me it won't happen again.
I’ve never wasted a single second. And from what you say it’s even worse than I expected. Although I would love to be in the podcast myself to tell these idiots what idiots they truly are,
Dear Reason, can we please get a TL;dr on these?
Orange Man Still Bad
Democracy sucks whenever Democrats lose. Reason is consistent if nothing else
Watching a Beaver eating cabbage is more entertaining and a better use of your time than listening to Suderman
https://fb.watch/gFtX9YjFhj/
This is what we get when we advocate the corruption of the checks and balances of democracy for selfish political gain.
Vote Fraud:21 confirmed illegalities, irregularities from 2020 election
http://crimeresearch.org/2022/07/vote-fraud21-confirmed-illegalities-irregularities-from-2020-election/
Courts Finally Admit Election Irregularities after Stonewalling Trump
http://headlineusa.com/courts-admit-voting-irregularities/
THE CHAIRMAN’S REPORT OF THE ELECTION LAW
STUDY SUBCOMMITTEE
OF THE STANDING SENATE
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE
SUMMARY OF TESTIMONY FROM DECEMBER 3, 2020 HEARING
Honorable William T. Ligon, Chairman
“V. FINDINGS
1- The November 3, 2020 election was chaotic and the results cannot be trusted.
http://citizenwells.substack.com/p/election-fraud-irregularities-and
One of the reasons we know the 2020 election was illegitimate is that Joe Biden’s results had no down ballot success, a statistical improbability because of what we know about political science, behavior psychology, and down ballot participation rates. In fact, not one House Republican incumbent lost. House Republicans actually gained 14 seats in 2020.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/10/coup-team-biden-bragged-rigging-brazil-election-president-bolsonaro-election-day-says-stop-steal-leader-ali-alexander/
Googles policy regarding what will be censored, banned, erased and deplatformed from ALL the websites it hosts.
“Election integrity: Content advancing false claims that widespread fraud, errors, or glitches occurred in certain past elections to determine heads of government. Or, content that claims that the certified results of those elections were false. This policy currently applies to:
Any past U.S. Presidential election
The 2021 German federal election
The 2014, 2018, and 2022 Brazilian Presidential elections
Keep in mind that this isn’t a complete list.”
https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/10835034?hl=en
From day one it was said democracy is messy. I agree, but it is still the best form of government. The problem isn't democracy, but lying power hungry politicians that use democracy to try to gain a dictatorship. The people that want to "fundamentally remake America", the people the want to re-write the constitution and the people that want to end the Bill of Rights.
Democracy sucks because of the majority rarely get the laws they vote for. Gerrymandering, electoral college, senate filibuster all obstruct majority law making.
Democracy haters be careful what you wish for.
Democracy 'sucks' because it doesn't LIMIT [WE] mobs RULE and therefore is Anti Individual-Rights/Liberty and 100% Gov-GUN power. The USA isn't a "democracy" it's a Constitutional Republic that utilizes some democracy in very specific purposes... It's a nation founded on a 'people's' SUPREME LAW over their government.
Usa govt. VERY MUCH LIMITS majority rule by reasons i cited.
A govt that limits majority rule - or “some democracy- will FRUSTRATE the majority just like autocracy or other “rule by a few”. Protection of minority not valid reason to suppress majority rule!
The TDS is so deep here I am leaving.
Not a lot of understanding of democracy here, but one fact might signal that the picture is more interesting than many of you think. There has never been a war between two liberal democracies. Not one. This is the only political form where this is true. Some of us have written at length on this.
Democracy is messy, it has been said since day one. I concur, yet it's still the ideal system of government. Democracy is not the issue; the issue is dishonest, power-hungry politicians who use democracy to try to establish a tyranny. the individuals who desire to "fundamentally restructure America," alter the text of the Constitution, and repeal the Bill of Rights.
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There will be a significant police presence at Philadelphia voting stations, according to DA Krasner of Philly, to prevent voter intimidation. Lots of overtime pay, body armor, security cameras, and everything else. All he could do when a reporter inquired about any threats was to make up stories.
Naturally, the NBC station included footage of J6 rioters with the blatant suggestion that "insurrectionists" would invade Philadelphia to prevent Democrats from casting ballots.
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