Our Looming Trillion Dollar Doom

Plus: the unintended consequences of mandating COVID vaccines for students


This week on The Reason RoundtableMatt Welch, Katherine Mangu-Ward, Peter Suderman, and Nick Gillespie tackle the pending $3.5 trillion spending bill and the also-pending vaccine mandates for students under 12.

Discussed in the show:

1:23: The infrastructure bill that was supposed to be finalized last week (and why no one is talking about it).

22:54: Weekly Listener Question: I get that trains aren't the most efficient way of getting around and require massive tax hikes, eminent domain, etc., but I still want them. How do I reconcile that with being a libertarian? Why can't we get them in places besides New York City?

31:48: Gavin Newsom plans to add the coronavirus vaccine to the list of mandated vaccines for public schools—as soon as it's approved, that is.

49:56: Media recommendations for the week.

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Assistant production by Regan Taylor
Music: "Angeline," by The Brothers Steve