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As Kavanaugh Takes the Bench, SCOTUS to Hear Arguments on Mandatory Minimums for Gun Offenses and Indefinite Immigrant Detention: Reason Roundup

Alex Milan Tracy/Sipa USA/NewscomAlex Milan Tracy/Sipa USA/NewscomNewly confirmed Justice Brett Kavanaugh will take his seat on the Supreme Court bench today, just in time to hear important cases concerning criminal sentencing and immigrant detention.

The latter case, Nielsen v. Preap—scheduled for oral arguments before the Court tomorrow—could "determine whether thousands of longtime residents of the U.S. face indefinite detention without a hearing," notes constitutional law professor Garrett Epps. It was filed as a class action suit by current and formerly detained immigrants and turns on the meaning of the word when:

Does it mean "any time the government decides after a stated event, whether days, weeks, or years later" or "immediately upon the happening of the event"?

Under the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act, "criminal aliens" slated for deportation are to be taken into federal custody "when [they are] released" from criminal custody (emphasis mine). They may challenge their deportation but in the interim, they're stuck in federal detention with no possibility of getting out on bond—even if immigration agents don't pick them up for years after their criminal offense and completion of subsequent punishment for it.

"There is no question that [ICE] agents can show up at their homes, arrest them, and hold them for removal proceedings," writes Epps.

But does the "when" language mean they don't get a bond hearing? If a non-citizen has left prison and established a new life, did Congress in writing the statute really mean to deny that person the chance to show an immigration court that he or she will show up for a removal hearing, the way other "noncriminal" aliens can?

In Tuesday arguments, meanwhile, SCOTUS will consider three cases involving mandatory sentencing enhancements prescribed by the Armed Career Criminal Act (ACCT)—a piece of crime-panic era legislation about which questions have long "plagued the Supreme Court," points out Rory Little at SCOTUSblog.

The 1984 law imposes a mandatory 15-year prison sentence on anyone convicted on federal firearms charges if they've previously been convicted of three "serious" drug crimes or "violent" felonies under state or federal law. Problems arise, writes Little, because "there is a remarkable variety among the 50 states regarding precisely how state criminal statutes are written, and how exactly those statutes are then interpreted by state courts across the nation."

Arguments in the first case, Stokeling v. United States, involve Denard Stokeling, who was convicted of an unarmed (felony) robbery in Florida more than 20 years ago after he attempted to steal necklaces from around a woman's neck. Two years ago, he was caught with a firearm, which meant a federal charge. Now, "the court will consider whether a state-law robbery offense meets the ACCA's definition of a violent felony" and counts towards Stokeling's three-strikes under it, explains Edith Roberts at SCOTUSblog.

"If Stokeling's 1997 prior robbery conviction counts as a "violent felony," then his federal prison sentence in the current case would increase dramatically, from a 10-year maximum to the ACCA's 15-year minimum," notes SCOTUSblogger Little, adding that "the question presented in Stokeling is nationally important, and will affect the administration of the ACCA in federal courts around the country."

The second arguments today involve a pair of consolidated cases, United States v. Stitt and United States v. Sims, both of which concern the definition of burglary for ACCA purposes. The law stipulates that some state crimes—including burglary—always meet the definition of serious or violent, even if the statutory language in those states doesn't say so. And the Supreme Court's generic definition of burglary is any crime—"regardless of its exact definition or label" under local laws—that involves the invasion of a building or structure. Yet "states vary wildly as to what sort of 'structure' qualifies for 'burglary,'" explains Little.

In both Stitt and Sims, the offenders were convicted of robbing motor vehicles. In some states, cars and mobiles homes count under the definition of burglary and in some they do not. The government argues that sentencing enhancements should apply regardless, and complains that Congress wants to treat homes "differently solely because one has wheels" and one does not.

Kavanaugh's presence on the court could make a difference here, according to Little. Previously, Justices Alito, Thomas, and Gorsuch have suggested discontent with the way the current approach is applied.

"The justices' discontent with ACCA, and the many circuit splits it produces due to state-law disuniformity, has been growing. Thus, if only eight justices are on the bench to hear argument on October 9, I think there is a possibility of a 4-4 tie here," wrote Little last week. "If Congress were listening—a big if these days—revisiting that statute might seem, post-argument, to be a necessary and worthwhile legislative task," he concludes.

It won't all be big cases for Kavanaugh in his early days, though. As the new kid on the court, Kavanaugh will be responsible for answering the door at private conferences "if someone knocks to deliver something such as a justice's coffee or forgotten glasses" and "he'll also sit on the committee that oversees the court's cafeteria," notes NBC New York.

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  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Hollywood golden-age actress Olivia de Havilland, age 102, is petitioning the U.S. Supreme Court to hear her lawsuit against FX and Ryan Murphy over their portrayal of her in the TV show Feud.

    So much relevance to the nation how can SCOTUS deny?

  • ||

    Hello.

  • WhatAboutBob||

    Holy crap. She's still alive!

  • Marcus Aurelius||

    Wood... 70 years ago....

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    The Internet Archive is truly our greatest national resource.

    Tell that to Joy Reid.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    The Internet Archive is considered an alt-right website because it can be used to show what the left said previously instead of having that shoved down the memory hole.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    As the new kid on the court, Kavanaugh will be responsible for answering the door at private conferences "if someone knocks to deliver something such as a justice's coffee or forgotten glasses" and "he'll also sit on the committee that oversees the court's cafeteria," notes NBC New York.

    Luckily he's prepared to handle the heavy drinking portion of the high court's hazing rituals.

  • Conchfritters||

    He has to be the one holding RBG up when she does a keg stand?

  • Red Tony||

    You know, she doesn't wear anything under the robes.

  • Conchfritters||

    Yuk - not worth the promotion

  • markm23||

    Now I need a brain-scrub.

  • Don't look at me!||

    Guess he lost his white privilege.

  • Colossal Douchebag||

    Get the door, pledge!

  • buybuydandavis||

    Keggers every Thursday in the cafeteria! Woohoo!

  • Conchfritters||

    Why are state foster care programs so terrible at keeping kids safe?

    Because they are run by the government.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    "Sex-work was key to the early adoption, growth and progress of the internet," writes Cory Doctorow, "but the internet has a short memory."

    Sex-work is why we had VHS over Beta and Blu-ray instead of HD-DVD.

  • Bee Tagger||

    writes Cory Doctorow, "but the internet has a short memory."

    except when it's time to shame someone for wrongthink.

  • ||

    "Newly confirmed Justice Brett Kavanaugh will take his seat on the Supreme Court bench today,"

    Lol.

  • Bee Tagger||

    Leadership, or like, whatever. https://t.co/22tDdIdBmc
    — Julian Sanchez (@normative) October 8, 2018

    sure, Trump's quote isn't great especially in light of the things that do get him worked up. but, the dear president, please solve this desire has the potential to lead down a dangerous path, too.

  • Red Tony||

    Okay, question: what the heck does your username mean?

  • Ska||

    Senator, a tea bagger is someone who makes tea using the standard Lipton like bag. As opposed to, say, a tea baller who uses loose leaf tea in a steel ball.

  • Red Tony||

    Oh, so it's a spoonerism. I was reading it as "Bee Tagger? What the heck? And Beet Agger doesn't make any sense either..."

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    Oh you two are soooo naive!

  • Conchfritters||

    Saudi Arabia arrests economist on terror charges after he criticises Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman's financial plans.

    Well, backing away from agreeing to help take Tesla private at $420 per share was a smart move.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Gender quotas for corporate boards are "clearly unconstitutional under current Supreme Court precedent," writes Ilya Somin at The Volokh Conspiracy.

    Kavanaugh is unlikely to let that change.

  • Bubba Jones||

    Who will have standing to challenge the quota? A shareholder activist?

    No corporation will tilt that windmill.

  • Eddy||

    Not when they can just have their board members change their gender to female by filling out the appropriate forms.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Gender quotas for corporate boards are "clearly unconstitutional under current Supreme Court precedent," writes Ilya Somin at The Volokh Conspiracy. "If it survives the nearly inevitable legal challenges, it is also likely to cause more harm than good."

    That's part of the reason I vote Democrat. I want Supreme Court justices who understand the value of diversity. We need to overturn precedents that are hostile to affirmative action, and that's just not going to happen with more dangerous right-wing extremists like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. If Hillary Clinton hadn't been cheated out of the Presidency by Russian hacking, we'd be getting more libertarian-friendly justices in the mold of RBG.

    #LibertariansForQuotas

  • Don't look at me!||

    Just not feeling it in this one. B-

  • Colossal Douchebag||

    Love the hashtag, though

  • buybuydandavis||

    Successful save!

  • Zeb||

    D-. You aren't even trying to sound like even the squshiest "cosmotarian". Just listing lefty talking points and then sticking "#Libertarian" at the end.

  • Red Tony||

    So what you're saying is that this is a slightly below-average Robby post.

  • Dillinger||

    the location of all the above-average ones i've heard so much about?

  • Red Tony||

    Whenever he nuts up and calls out either side with a legitimate grievance, or occasionally when he talks the college rape circuit.

    He's more like a baseball player than anything; he'd probably be a .272 average, 15 HRs, about 34 doubles over the course of 600 at-bats.

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    ...writer and former Republican policy adviser Max Boot has a new book on how he learned to stop ignoring racism and leave the right.

    Getting ready to ignore another strain of racism on the left?

  • buybuydandavis||

    Getting ready to cheer it on.

    Whatever best serves the Deep State.

    He was on Klavan today. Boot is a ranting loon.

    Globalists to the Left, Nationalists to the Right.

  • Bee Tagger||

    As the new kid on the court, Kavanaugh will be responsible for answering the door at private conferences "if someone knocks to deliver something such as a justice's coffee or forgotten glasses"

    So the entire court, except him, will have to recuse themselves when a case on hazing makes it to the supreme court. SOMEONE DIDN'T THINK THIS THROUGH.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    "Guys... who ordered the strippers?"

  • Inigo Montoya||

    "Max Boot has a new book on how he learned to stop ignoring racism and leave the right."

    Considering how racist the left is, I think we may soon be welcoming him to the libertarian side.

  • Cy||

    They think their victim rankings according to sex and race are good things. Regardless of them being sexist and racist for it.

  • Bee Tagger||

    The Internet Archive is truly our greatest national resource.

    have they slipped by Europe's attempts at making the internet forget things, so far?

  • Here for the outrage||

    Journalists, including the ones here, love to throw the words 'authoritarian' and 'dictator' around, then turn around and beg for Trump to intervene in other countries affairs.

    Amazing lack of self awareness. I guess they don't have mirrors where people journalism

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    The whole parallel "justice" system for immigration proceedings really does need to come to an end at some point.

    We have "immigration judges" who aren't Article III judges and don't have to follow the same due process rules as a real court does.

    We have detention centers that aren't technically "jails" and don't have to follow the same rules as jails.

    And now we have defendants in these "immigration courts" that don't get to have the opportunity to have a bond hearing, because it's not a real court and they're not stuck in a real jail, even though it sure looks like a real court and a real jail.

    You don't have to go full-on open borders to believe that detained immigrants should be treated with a modicum of due process.

  • sarcasmic||

    The border is a Constitution-free zone, and anything related to enforcing it completely ignores the Constitution.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Listen, if you don't want to rot in a cage like a thug, then maybe you shouldn't have been born in some other country like a thug.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    They can self-deport.

  • Zeb||

    Yes, until they are detained.

    Regular old criminals could just not do crimes. But they do and should get due process.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Yes, criminals could NOT do crimes. That is great advice.

    Under our Constitution, they get Due Process and other rights relating to being a defendant.

    Illegals are being given Due Process hearings. Or they can self-deport. They have zero legal reason to be in the USA and be successful in a deportation hearing. These deportation hearings should take 5 minutes.

    Illegals wanting to be in the USA is not a good enough legal reason to be in the USA. Follow the rules and apply like everyone else.

  • Cathy L||

    And what about legal permanent residents?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Explain your position.

    'Legal permanent residents' covers large types of permissions and reasons for violating the rules.

    Legal permanent residents are not naturalized Americans yet.

  • Cathy L||

    My position is that you're talking about immigration courts and the people subject to them as if those people include only illegal immigrants. That is not the case. The case in question above, for example, applies to legal residents, including legal permanent residents, not only to illegal immigrants.

  • sarcasmic||

    How have people who lack permission slips harmed the life, liberty or property of others any more than people who have a permission slip?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Explain your position.

    The US Constitution grants Congress the power to regulate migration of free persons, the naturalization process, and defending the USA against invasion.

  • sarcasmic||

    My position is that as a libertarian I oppose legislation that makes criminals out of people who do not harm others.

    Or as Neal Boortz put it:

    "Let's just make this easy. I'm in favor of a Constitutional amendment that would read something like this:

    'Neither the federal government, nor any state or local government shall make any activity a crime unless said activity violates another person's right to life, liberty, or property, either through force or fraud.'

    Could you live with that? Could you live with the thought that anyone in your community could do pretty much what they wish, so long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else? Now there's a definition of freedom--and it's something I suspect most of you just couldn't go along with."

    If that goes against your beloved Constitution, so be it. But the Constitution is not a litmus test for libertarianism, nor is it perfect.

  • Azathoth!!||


    'Neither the federal government, nor any state or local government shall make any activity a crime unless said activity violates another person's right to life, liberty, or property, either through force or fraud.'

    Could you live with that? Could you live with the thought that anyone in your community could do pretty much what they wish, so long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else? Now there's a definition of freedom--and it's something I suspect most of you just couldn't go along with."

    Could YOU live with it?

    Because this'd be a world without public property. This would be a world where people who owned property on the border could simply shoot trespassers.

    And there would be a border, sarc. There'd be more borders than you ever thought possible. Because people tend to let the commons go to shit. They defend what they own.

    As for me, it's a bit restrictive, but I could deal.

  • sarcasmic||

    I would appreciate it if you could respond to the argument, rather than creating some straw man of absolute liberty and anarchy, and then knocking it down. That dodge is getting really fucking old.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    This is a Constitutional Democratic Republic. We are always going to have laws Sarcasmic.

    We have laws that the only victim is the state. Perjury is one such example.

    When Libertarians discuss victimless crimes, we mean that literally nobody is harmed from any action taken by all parties involved. Prostitution is one such example.

    The US Constitution gives Congress the power to enforce immigration rules. You can call that a strawman argument but that just makes people laugh at you.

    I would never support the amendment you suggest. Libertarians would not either.

    Your charade that you concern trolling for Libertarians is a joke. You are an anarchist and everything I normally see from you is to further that goal. I would give you credit for your jokes but they are not usually good jokes.

  • chemjeff radical individualist||

    My point, LC, is that immigrants who are picked up by the state and put into the immigration system in this country suffer under a parallel system, which is not equivalent to the formal justice system. They have fewer rights and fewer protections than a defendant in the formal legal system does. One might even call it "separate and unequal".

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Chemjeff, you will need to cite that claim.

    Immigrant detention centers are nicer, immigrants get attorneys appointed, and they can leave the detention center immediately (if they agree to deportation).

  • damikesc||

    Just in time to compete with the choir of "how the liberals lost me to Trump" performances, writer and former Republican policy adviser Max Boot has a new book on how he learned to stop ignoring racism and leave the right.
  • damikesc||

    Ironic given that progressivism is still BUILT on racism.

  • ||

    I guess we can say....

    /dons sunglasses....

    Max just gave the right the...boot.

  • sarcasmic||

    If you say all races are equal, that none are inferior and deserving special treatment, then progressives will accuse you of racism.

  • SIV||

    Progressivism is built on foreign interventionism as well so Boot is a natural fit.

  • Eddy||

    Imagine a Boot justifying foreign intervention forever

  • BYODB||

    Ah, yes, recall when foundational progressives thought that abortion would be a great way to cull the undesirables and lesser races from society? Pepperidge Farm remembers. It would be amusing if it wasn't for the fact that they were largely successful if you look at abortion racial demographics.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Under the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act, "criminal aliens" slated for deportation are to be taken into federal custody "when [they are] released" from criminal custody (emphasis mine). They may challenge their deportation but in the interim, they're stuck in federal detention with no possibility of getting out on bond—even if immigration agents don't pick them up for years after their criminal offense and completion of subsequent punishment for it.

    If the illegals waive a hearing, they get deported quickly.

    No sympathy.

    The USA is no longer going to allow criminal illegals to run free while they game the immigration system. We have Americans who are gaming the system to worry about, instead of non-Americans.

  • sarcasmic||

    Know who else dehumanized entire swaths of people?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Every country in the history of countries?

    Anywho... preventing non-Americans from entering the USA is not dehumanizing anyone.

  • sarcasmic||

    Dismissing them as "illegals" as an excuse to treat them like animals is the definition of dehumanizing.

  • Bubba Jones||

    They are permitted to leave.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    They are illegals AND I do not support treating them like animals.

    They are housed in nicer facilities than Americans criminals, so I am not buying what you're selling.

  • TuIpa||

    no, it's the definition of abbreviation

  • Cathy L||

    As usual, the nativists want to pretend everything is about illegal immigrants, even the detention of legal permanent residents.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Legal permanent residents ARE NOT American citizens yet.

    They are in the USA legally at the good graces of Americans. Times have changed.

  • TuIpa||

    as usual, you're a salty scold bore.

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    Most libertarians at least pay lip service to the idea that victimless crimes are not crimes at all.

    How does crossing a border harm anyone, other than trespassing of the actual border parcel? Hint: if you say they trespassed against the government, bzzzzt! you are a collectivist.

  • OpenBordersLiberal-tarian||

    Handmaid's Tale themed protest against Kavanaugh

    The progressive / libertarian alliance lost the Kavanaugh fight, but we're not giving up. Supporters of reproductive health care access will never allow the Drumpf regime to turn this country into a theocratic dictatorship.

    #SaveRoe
    #SUPER-PRECEDENT
    #BlueTsunami

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    Guarantee you not one of those women had even heard of the book until the TV series was made.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Arguments in the first case, Stokeling v. United States, involve Denard Stokeling, who was convicted of an unarmed (felony) robbery in Florida more than 20 years ago after he attempted to steal necklaces from around a woman's neck. Two years ago, he was caught with a firearm, which meant a federal charge.

    Since the 2nd Amendment protects the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, the SCOTUS should strike down possession of firearms crimes by ex-cons.

    If you are in state custody, some of your rights are diminished pending the completion of your sentence. If you are not currently in state custody, you should have zero restrictions on Constitutional rights and gun ownership is one of those rights.

  • Don't look at me!||

    Unless the crime was an unsubstantiated claim of a sexual nature from 35 years ago, then you life is ruined.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    Some people just can't take being laughed at on the world stage.

  • TuIpa||

    fuck, you can't take being laughed at HERE.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    You obviously don't understand my shtick. I want to be laughed at here, but it seems to never happen *SAD*

  • Eddy||

    The clown suit is scary, not funny

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Bill, Hillary Clinton to embark on speaking tour amid #MeToo backlash -- with tickets topping $745

  • TrickyVic (old school)||

    It's the #MeToo Also tour.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    They have to somehow make up for all the lost income they anticipated from renting out the Lincoln Bedroom.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    The ever receding climate goalpost: IPCC and Al Gore "12 years to save the planet" (again)
    Bear in mind, he once before said we have 10 YEARS, back in 2006 with his "An Inconvenient Truth":

  • Tom Bombadil||

    I've got a theory. For the last few years, Climate Pants-shitters have been running their simulations solely to determine when the gig will be up. Apparently, 12 years from now is the tipping point when no politically significant portion of the population will pay "Climate Change" any heed.

  • A Thinking Mind||

    Haven't, like, many people pointed out that temperatures aren't actually rising? Wasn't there a big discussion about the global warming hiatus?

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    'Keep 'em comin', princess!' Raw Story editor takes his Steve Scalise hatred to sickening low
    @martincizmar
    When a politician opposes all reasonable gun control and gets shot he deserves a Darwin award nomination not a sympathy card.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Rosemount educator on leave after tweeting 'kill Kavanaugh?'

    Suddenly this type of Lefty behavior falls out of the Lefty news cycle, for some reason.

  • Leo Kovalensky II||

    LC1789 Challenge: Similar to the Buffalo buffalo.... thing, how many times can only a variation of the word "Left" be used to make a complete, grammatical sentence?

    My submission:
    Lefty, lefty Lefties left lefty, lefty Lefty left.

    All left-handed, left-winged people named Lefty departed, which left only left-handed, left-winged person also named Lefty as the only person remaining.

  • Red Tony||

    Lefty lefties left Lefty's lefting; Left Lefties left leftwards.

    (Left-wing left-handed people left [a guy {nick}named] Lefty's "lefting" [a celebration of leftiness]; ones who were particularly left-wing left in a leftwards direction.)

  • chipper me timbers||

    The fact that this is being investigated as a "crime" is ridiculous.

  • Eddy||

    "UPDATE: The educator has resigned."

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    White Women, Come Get Your People
    We're talking about white women. The same 53 percent who put their racial privilege ahead of their second-class gender status in 2016 by voting to uphold a system that values only their whiteness, just as they have for decades. Since 1952, white women have broken for Democratic presidential candidates only twice: in the 1964 and 1996 elections, according to an analysis by Jane Junn, a political scientist at the University of Southern California.

    That's because white women benefit from patriarchy by trading on their whiteness to monopolize resources for mutual gain. In return they're placed on a pedestal to be "cherished and revered," as Speaker Paul D. Ryan has said about women, but all the while denied basic rights.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    This blood pact between white men and white women is at issue in the November midterms. President Trump knows it, and at that Tuesday news conference, he signaled to white women to hold the line: "The people that have complained to me about it the most about what's happening are women. Women are very angry," he said. "I have men that don't like it, but I have women that are incensed at what's going on."

  • Echo Chamber||

    "But the people who scare me the most are the mothers, sisters and wives of those young men, because my stupid uterus still holds out some insane hope of solidarity."

    Hmmm, solidarity is a safe word for being sexist?

  • Echo Chamber||

    "94 percent of black women and 86 percent of Latinas who voted for Hillary Clinton."

    So much for the myth of the secret ballot. Or is stat taken from virtue-signaling exit polls?

  • Eddy||

    "These women are gender traitors, to borrow a term from the dystopian TV series "The Handmaid's Tale." They've made standing by the patriarchy a full-time job. The women who support them show up at the Capitol wearing "Women for Kavanaugh" T-shirts, but also probably tell their daughters to put on less revealing clothes when they go out."

  • Echo Chamber||

    "prosecutors just let a man evade jail time after he kidnapped a native Alaskan woman and strangled her unconscious, then masturbated over her body"

    STEVE SMITH MOVE TO ALASKA?

  • Red Tony||

    STEVE SMITH OFFENDED BY IMPLICATION. STEVE SMITH PREFERS SEXUAL PARTERS FULLY CONSCIOUS DURING SASQUATCH RAPE.

  • Echo Chamber||

    "Meanwhile, Senator Collins subjected us to a slow funeral dirge about due process and some other nonsense I couldn't even hear through my rage headache as she announced on Friday she would vote to confirm Judge Kavanaugh"

    Let's put people ruled by rage headaches in charge. That'll make everything better

  • A Thinking Mind||

    I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take this any more.

  • Don't look at me!||

    Still better than it was.

  • LynchPin1477||

    But better than it could have been?

  • Sevo||

    So he might hit Obo's high numbers?
    Fuck off, turd.

  • General_Tso||

    IMF projections, reported by CNN.

    Yeah, not buying it.

  • Sevo||

    Missed the "CNN"
    If it can be considered bad news WRT Trump, CNN is gonna run with it regardless of the source or reliability.
    I was stuck in waiting room with the TV set to CNN last week; Kanvanuagh was DEAD and this meant Trump was really in trouble this time! All the talking heads were in agreement.

  • Sevo||

    "Corporate tax cut 2018
    Permanently cut the federal corporate tax rate to 20 percent (from 35 percent) from 2018. Immediate write-off for new equipment and preserves R&D tax credit. Same as house and will stay in place permanently. But will delay the tax cut until 2019."
    http://www.savingtoinvest.com/trump-
    tax-plan-cuts-and-changes-in-2017-
    2018-and-beyond/

    Are you even capable of posting without lying, turd?

  • chipper me timbers||

    Everyone is underestimating the impact of cutting corporate taxes by over a third. It's yuuge.

  • loveconstitution1789||

  • Dillinger||

    nobody's ever pulled a dog off another human without killing it? dicks.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Flea-borne typhus spreads across Los Angeles area

    Or is it lice infestations on homeless persons?

  • Griffin3||

    Why can't it be both?

  • LynchPin1477||

    But does the "when" language mean they don't get a bond hearing? If a non-citizen has left prison and established a new life, did Congress in writing the statute really mean to deny that person the chance to show an immigration court that he or she will show up for a removal hearing, the way other "noncriminal" aliens can?

    I don't know enough about this case to comment on the specifics, but if the issue really is vague Congressional intent, I really wish the Court would say something like "This is really more of a legislative question, so go ask Congress and stop looking to us to solve every little problem with the way laws are written. You have elected representatives for a reason."

    Sometimes the problems with a law aren't really Constitutional.

  • Zeb||

    But the court also has the job if interpreting the laws that exist, as they exist, even if it's not a constitutional question.

    I suppose they could declare a law too vague to be enforceable, which would have a strong implication that congress needs to fix it.

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    All appeals decisions must be unanimous. Any disagreement by learned judges precludes all hope of ordinary people understanding similar situations, and the law at issue must be voided, and the case decided in favor of individual liberty.

  • LynchPin1477||

    I wasn't aware Taylor Swift had fans of legal voting age.

  • Don't look at me!||

    Mentally disabled adults.

  • Dillinger||

    reports are they scream-cried at her Dallas show like she's the fucking beatles or something...soccer moms in tears and not just b/c the $200 parking wtf

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    Special-ed teacher on paid leave after call to kill Justice Kavanaugh: 'Take one for the team'

    Are you serious? Portland TV station reports on driver who 'plowed through protesters'
    As Twitchy reported, one elderly man decided he wasn't going to obey orders from Antifa and drove down a street they had blocked. They took down the license plate number and then doxxed the man, putting his home address on social media.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

  • Ron||

    Due to police inaction of allowing Antifa to block streets they must be hoping for a riot so that anyone who does not obey Antifa will be called a violent Nazi threat. In other words the police are working with Antifa, this is how it started in Nazi Germany as well. This is actually scary what Portland is allowing to take place and should be stopped before real violence erupts against Antifa's Antics. Antifa is creating the stituation that they are trying to prevent or are they living with the false belief that they will be in charge

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    The Saudis really are the lowest scum of the earth on the planet today. It should be a goal of civilized people everywhere to want to have absolutely nothing to do with them.

    They were deeply involved in both 9/11 and the Las Vegas massacre, and our own government knows this full well and is covering it up.

  • chipper me timbers||

    " and the Las Vegas massacre"

    I've never heard this crackpot theory before

  • Sevo||

    His tin-foil hat is leaking.

  • Sevo||

    You're a content provider there, turd?

  • Red Tony||

    Palin's Buttplug provides content? I never would have guessed.

  • Red Tony||

    I already subscribe, and it's only $2.99 per year. Which makes sense since it's a quarterly and mostly advertising anyway.

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    Let me guess -- you are their only subscriber, you keep on cancelling your subscription because it is incomprehensible, and someone keeps re-subscribing you anyway?

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    (Meant for buttplug, not scarlet writer)

  • Woody Chip Hurrrrr?||

    (Meant for buttplug, not scarlet writer)

  • Bubba Jones||

    How many robberies do you have to commit in order to be convicted of 3? This was three separate events, not three charges for a single event.

    I am not feeling the sympathy.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    NBC Fawns Over Iceland's Preschools That Force Kids to 'Compensate for Their Gender'
    Boys and girls are separated for most of the day and they actively compensate for their gender by practicing behaviors usually associated with the other sex: from being daring and taking the initiative to helpfulness and being considerate of others.

  • chipper me timbers||

    good grief, humanity. what is wrong with you?

  • perlchpr||

    I wonder if anyone will bother to reinhabit Iceland after they die out.

  • Ron||

    forcing girls to run though snow and required to not show emotion what kind a tortured robots that have to represe feelings are they trying to create there. that would be called torture in any other world

  • Eddy||

    Uh, we come from the land of the ice and snow? Valhalla I am coming?

  • speedylee||

    I'm inferring here but they are saying that boys are not naturally considerate? Please, anyone teaching a kid, don't tell them that.

  • Sevo||

    "Among the views labeled left-wing: expanded international aid and a higher minimum wage."

    Yep, free shit is a lefty dream.

  • chipper me timbers||

    Fucking public school letting the mask sleep. it's an indoctrination center for leftist tribal propoganda.

  • Standards||

    "It is a very accurate portrayal."

    Agreed, this portrayal of leftists as being out of touch propagandists and using public schools for indoctrination IS very accurate, a rare bit of honesty from you.

    Now pay your bet.

  • Weigel's Cock Ring||

    Hey dickface!

    Be honest, how many hours did you spend crying this weekend after taking another big loss up the ass?

  • loveconstitution1789||

    MAGA!

  • Alcibiades||

    Nothing from Reason on Portland?

    Thought KMW was an anarchist.

  • Longtorso, Johnny||

    At least he wants to kill Commies - he can't be all bad.

  • loveconstitution1789||

    Reason.... Lefty radicals in Portland blocking traffic and yelling at drivers.

    No story there, I guess.

  • Red Rocks White Privilege||

    The protest was over a cop shooting, so I'm sure something will be out later today.

  • Conchfritters||

    In Portland? That's news?

  • Dillinger||

    so, Tuesday.

  • Dillinger||

    >>>Max Boot has a new book on how he learned to stop ignoring racism

    idiot needed to *learn* to *stop ignoring* racism wtf.

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