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'Remarks About Physical Appearance' Considered 'Sexual Violence' in Rutgers Student Survey

New study on campus sexual assault suffers same problems that plague so much research on this issue.

Rutgers University/FacebookRutgers University/FacebookA new survey of Rutgers University students reinforces the idea that one in four college women will be victims of sexual assault... but only if you don't look at the study too closely. Zoom in and you'll find the same problems that plague so much research about sex crimes on college campuses, from defining violence to include rude comments to failing to differentiate between an unwanted kiss and forcible rape. 

The Rutgers survey—conducted by the school's Center on Violence Against Women and Children at the request of the White House Task Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault and the Department of Justice—was carried out last academic year at the state school's New Brunswick campus, attended by about 42,000 students. Around 10,800 students completed the online survey; the majority were undergraduates (80 percent) and women (64 percent). 

Rutgers used definitions of sexual violence and sexual assault based on material from the White House task force. "'Sexual assault' and 'sexual violence' refer to a range of behaviors that are unwanted by the recipient," notes a school summary of survey findings, "and include remarks about physical appearance, persistent sexual advances that are undesired by the recipient, threats of force to get someone to engage in sexual behavior, as well as unwanted touching and unwanted oral, anal, or vaginal penetration or attempted penetration."

Survey respondents were presented with that definition, then asked whether they had experienced sexual violence prior to starting school at Rutgers. Nineteen percent of all respondents and 24 percent of undergraduate women said they had. 

Students were then asked six questions about different types of "unwanted sexual contact." Overall, 13 percent of students, including 20 percent of undergraduate women, experienced some sort of unwanted sexual contact since starting school at Rutgers. Students were not asked to limit responses to incidents that occurred on or near campus or with another student.

Follow-up questions with respondents who had experienced unwanted sexual contact found the perpetrator was a student in 35 percent of the cases, a non-student in 18 percent, and of unknown academic status in eight percent; 39 percent did not answer the question. Forty-three percent described the perpetrator as a non-stranger and 18 percent as a stranger. In non-stranger cases, 40 percent categorized the perpetrator as a "casual acquaintance or hookup," 34 percent as a friend, 5 percent as a current romantic partner, and 13 percent as an ex-romantic partner. Forty-one percent said they had told someone about the most-serious incident, while 22 percent did not and 37 percent didn't answer. 

Only five percent of all student said they had been victims of unwanted sexual contact obtained "using physical force." For undergraduate women, this was at eight percent. Three percent of all students, including five percent of undergraduate women, said someone had used coercion or threats of physical force to perpetrate unwanted sexual contact. Four percent of all students, including six percent of undergraduate women, said they had been victims of unwanted sexual contact when they were "unable to provide consent or stop what was happening because (they) were passed out, drugged, drunk, incapacitated, or asleep." Throughout these questions, the type of unwanted sexual contact was not specified. 

So what have we really learned here? That one in four female undergrads experienced something between rape and catcalls before coming to Rutgers; one in five female Rutgers undergrads experienced something between forced vaginal penetration and unwanted kissing at the hands of another student-or-not-student, somewhere in the universe, since starting college; three percent of students were perhaps physically threatened, perhaps mildly pressured into sexual activity; and four percent of students have been subject to something between forced oral, vaginal, or anal penetration and an unwanted caress while they were either asleep, totally passed out, or had had a few beers. 

"Based on this experience, researchers from VAWC prepared a final report with recommendations to the White House Task force," the school states. In conjunction with releasing the survey, Rutgers announced the launch of a new campaign, "The Revolution Starts Here: End Sexual Violence Now."

Fundamental vagueness isn't the only fatal flaw of surveys like the one Rutgers conducted. As NPR points out, their opt-in nature—less than 30 percent of Rutgers-New Brunswick students took the survey—may skew participants towards those with personal experience with sexual assault. 

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  • kinnath||

    I miss the Cold War.

  • *GILMORE*||

    I know, seriously.

    Its like, after removing the only genuine existential threat to civilization of the 20th century... people needed to fill the void with all kinds of invented threats and terrors to justify the continued perpetual media pants-wetting that we've grown used to.

  • The Last American Hero||

    Cannot be repeated enough. Also, it seemed to keep a lid on some of the lefties more extreme tendencies, because one could point over at the USSR as a clear example of where their policies would lead.

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    In Russia, policies point to YOU!

  • ||

    Oh, it's still out there if someone wants to look. On Steam forums, you now have people from Greece begging other people to buy them games because the capital controls now inflicted upon the people there does not allow them to buy anything outside of their country. Well, stop voting for communists, you idiots.

  • Dead and Loving It||

    If they were smart, they'd go farm gold in some FTP and then find a way to sell it online, so they'd have some extra income. Every little bit helps.

  • PapayaSF||

  • lap83||

    "You're looking very empowered today"

  • d3x / dt3||

    RAPIST!

  • Devil's Candy||

    That does it! I am now going to walk around campus till I graduate with a giant bloody maxi-pad strapped to my back!

  • R C Dean||

    "You're looking very empowered today"

    [glances down at chestular region] "Well, it is chilly in here."

  • Banjos||

    HOW DARE YOU SPEAK AND LOOK AT ME!

  • ||

    Pretty much. If a man tries to engage a woman who perceives herself to be above his grade, its sexual harrassment.

  • RealCrankyYankee||

    Based on the criteria ("remarks about physical appearance") I'm surprised it isn't 100% !

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Hey, like I raped at least 5 women today, "Those are nice earnings, that dress looks nice on you, great shoes!" All in a days work, motherfucker.

  • pronomian||

    In other words, you look like shit.

  • Illocust||

    Of course the study would be absolute crap. The sky would fall if we had real statistics on rapes on campus.

  • Sevo||

    You lookin' at me?

  • The Late P Brooks||

    *perpetrates MALE GAZE, twirls grooms moustache with tip of tongue*

  • wFt||

    twirling would be impressive, if not intimidating...

  • Pan Zagloba||

    include remarks about physical appearance, persistent sexual advances that are undesired by the recipient

    We must teach men not to neg!

  • AlmightyJB||

    You want to really drive women nuts. Don't look at them at all. Not even a furtive glance.

  • Pan Zagloba||

    Because they all want cake?

  • AlmightyJB||

    They spend all of their time and money trying to attract the male gaze. They complain about the male gaze only because it gives them an excuse to point out that someone was looking at them. They yearn for it.

  • lap83||

    "They spend all of their time and money trying to attract the male gaze."

    So there are no libertarian women because they're all too busy buying shoes

  • Pan Zagloba||

    So Philippines were a Libertopia and we didn't know it? Awww, they ruined it...

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Nah. That's for the female gaze.

  • lap83||

    I wouldn't know, I'm a sorry excuse for a woman. I don't even like shopping

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    My wife tells me that shopping in person is almost always a disappointment, so she does it all online.

    Me? I got 2 and a half years worth of clothes shopping done in 14 minutes at the outlet mall.

  • Trump-o-Matic 5000||

    Same here. I wear black dress pants and a dark or light blue dress shirt to work every day. I wear blue jeans and a black or gray t-shirt on weekends. All of my shopping for the past five years has taken, collectively, about 20 minutes, most of which is spent typing in my billing information.

  • Los Doyers||

    I'm gonna peg you as one who wears white socks in all of those situations.

  • ||

    I'm gonna peg you

    Los Doyers is sexually harassing you here in case you were wondering.

  • Los Doyers||

    Sexually harassing and being a fashion snob. SUE ME.

  • ||

    Black, bought in bulk at Sams. I have a drawer full. All identical. This way I don't have to match them.

    Nine days out of ten it is blue jeans and black or grey t-shirt. One day each week I take my wife to town to eat out and have cocktails with her friends. Then it is Jeans, a nice button up shirt which I actually iron, and nicely polished brown Rockports.

    It's like you don't know anything about dressing yourself. Geesh.

  • SugarFree||

    Black, bought in bulk at Sams. I have a drawer full. All identical. This way I don't have to match them.

    Oh, you're talking about socks.

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Rockports? Dang. I'm gonna have take down my Suthenboy shrine. *hangs head*

  • Rasilio||

    I wish my wife would let me do that.

    For some reason she insists that I need a variety of colors and styles though

  • bvandyke||

    I'm partially color blind. My wife made me go with khakis (all the same color) and polo shirts with brown shoes and belt - so I always match at work.

    So, no, I couldn't dress myself :)

  • ||

    I'm partially color blind. My wife made me go with khakis (all the same color) and polo shirts with brown shoes and belt - so I always match at work.

    A friend of mine in college had problems on the red/blue color spectrum and apparently LOVED wearing the color purple. He thought it was blue. Everyone just thought he was gay (he's not).

  • Los Doyers||

    You don't own any Tevas, do you?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I believe that she said she had a husband, so I don't know why you're accusing her of being a lesbian.

  • Los Doyers||

    Hey, I've seen plenty of straight men and women alike trying to pull of this mutated love child of Crocs and gladiators. I take pics when I can.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Tevas are on par with mullets. Nearly everyone knows better.

  • Los Doyers||

    Nearly everyone knows better.

    And yet look at all the tasteless baboons heralding Chipotle in the earlier thread. You give people too much credit.

  • SugarFree||

    And yet look at all the tasteless baboons heralding Chipotle in the earlier thread.

    One of the darkest days on this board. And I'm counting the day that Episiarch posted that picture of that tortured example of urban despair he uses as a penis.

  • Los Doyers||

    The sores....just so....bleedy...

  • ||

    The funny thing was that his mom commented that your sores were remarkably similar to Epi's. Did you guys pull a train on the same crack ho?

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    LMFAO

  • ||

    You weren't supposed to laugh! I needed support, you asshole! At least I got it from your mom.

  • SugarFree||

    Imagine a battered highway cone floating in a sewer.

  • ||

    That's interesting because the first thing that came to my mind when I saw their sofritas was a story you wrote about Hillary's prolapsed vagina.

  • SugarFree||

    Not the ocra penis dildo?

  • ||

    ocra penis

    Southern food.

  • Los Doyers||

    Would you say they're used as a....thickener?

  • SugarFree||

    Yes, much like meaty okra. In fact, that's where okra got its name.

  • gaoxiaen||

    You misspelled Orca.

  • ||

    Tevas are on par with mullets. Nearly everyone knows better.

    As someone who thinks he can buy two years' worth of clothes at once, you clearly don't follow fashion, but I have news for you: Tevas are in again. Start looking around at college-age women. You're about to be horrified.

  • ||

    Start looking around at college-age women. You're about to be horrified.

    I was just in Ann Arbor. And I was horrified. Not by the shoes (who looks at THAT shit?) but by the really hideous tattoos. Not ugly-but-arty like Negrete, I'm talking Epi's Mom ugly.

  • Rasilio||

    Excuse me, I was just on a website dedicated to college age girls and there wasn't a pair of Tevas in sight

  • fish||

    Excuse me, I was just on a website dedicated to college age girls and there wasn't a pair of Tevas in sight

    Nor anything else I imagine.......


    .....what's your password?

  • Homple||

    Start looking around at college-age women. You're about to be horrified charged with sexual assault.

  • lap83||

    ha! No, I'm more like a geek or nerd. (and not in the cute hipster girl "I'm totes nerdy guys!" way). But I'd rather buy a (non-fiction) book or DVD than clothes and I have been known to play magic.

  • lap83||

    I had to look it up, no.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    GOOD. My roommate had those freshman year. I made him get rid of them.

  • ||

    What else do you wear when fishing off an oyster bar? Or launching/landing your kayak on rocky beach?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    I'd rather have my feet covered in blood than wear Tevas.

  • Mrs. Lemuel Struthers||

    They yearn for it.

    You don't understand women at all, do you?

    Women dress just as much for other women as they do for men.

    I'll let you on to a little secret: You know how men try to out compete each other at the gym, playing sports, at work, or in other areas of their life?

    Women do that to - not just in their appearance, but appearance is one way in which women compete subtly or not so subtly with each other.

    It's only marginally about the Male Gaze.

  • R C Dean||

    You have a point.

    So, the whining about the Male Gaze is basically women telling men to get off their turf? Objectifying and diminishing women is something women do, and men just need to back the hell off?

  • wareagle||

    there is no political power to be had in bitching about the Female Gaze.

  • Trump-o-Matic 5000||

    I believe "the kids these days" use the term #humblebrag for such a scenario. They're complaining about the male gaze, but really what they are saying is that they get tons of attention for the way they look.

  • SugarFree||

  • PapayaSF||

    I'm regularly amazed at how... catcallable some women can be at advanced ages. Whether it's plastic surgery or not, I don't care, I just like it.

    Susan Lucci is 68.

    Debbie Harry is 70.

  • PapayaSF||

  • Los Doyers||

    You into that Airtight Granny stuff too, eh? I have some home videos you might be interested in.

  • PapayaSF||

    I'd never heard that phrase, but I'm rapidly approaching that demographic....

  • Los Doyers||

    It always starts with a sponge bath.

  • blcartwright||

    I was watching a BBC show "New Tricks" on Hulu. Honor Blackman appeared in a 2004 epiosde when she was near 80, and they said of her character "she must be 65 by now!"

  • ||

    My mom used to watch All My Children. One year she was watching the Daytime Emmys and she was nominated but didn't win. Then that Sweet n Low (or Equal or whatever) commercial came on where she lost her shit about losing n number of years came on and they'd iterated it up one, but everything else looked identical. Wee child Jesse was amazed.

  • blcartwright||

    I'm forbidden to see Susan Lucci

  • wFt||

    Sharon Stone is....ageless.

  • ||

    It's amazing. She feels guilty...about everything. All her normal human emotions and feelings? Guilty. It's so strange and...inhuman...to feel bad about just being human.

    She must be pretty miserable.

  • Trump-o-Matic 5000||

    ^This. Applies to every progtard I've ever encountered.

  • lap83||

    Even if there are women who spend all their time and money just to attract the male gaze, they're doing it wrong. It only takes a marginal amount of makeup and knowing what clothes flatter your figure. Anything beyond that is to signal status.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    The sexiest shoes on a woman?
    White Keds.

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    RAY. CIST.

  • Mrs. Lemuel Struthers||

    It only takes a marginal amount of makeup and knowing what clothes flatter your figure. Anything beyond that is to signal status.

    This is so true. Men are easy. Show a little T&A and we get all the Male Gaze we can handle.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Mostly A, though. Mostly.

  • wareagle||

    and this male thanks you, both for the effort and for understanding that we like it.

  • commodious spittoon||

    Of course it's status signaling. It's not about attracting *any* male attention, it's about attracting the *right* male attention.

  • ||

    Pretty sure it's all just to signal status.

  • commodious spittoon||

    YOU'RE JUST STATUS SIGNALING

  • pronomian||

    They just need to smell like and carry bacon.

  • Enough About Woodchippers||

    They yearn for it.

    Here's how they do it in Minneapolis, especially in the skyways. They walk towards you, look directly at you and if you return their eye contact, they scowl.

    My thinking is, HEY BITCH, how the fuck would you even know I'm looking at you if you weren't looking at me first?

  • ||

    This is a prime opportunity for you to practice Calvin's technique.

  • Tommy_Grand||

    i was in a Houston pool hall 1 day before Halloween. maybe 2004 or 2005. waitress was dolled up as a sexy black cat: low cut black leotard, cat ears, black high heels, fish-net stockings. Not too shabby. Taped on each buttock, she had a novelty battery-op LED gizmo that flashed "BOO! BOO!" in glowing letters. these went off every few (30?) seconds.

    yes, she caught me looking at her bum when the gizmo flashed. She rolled her eyes in disgust. OMG! MEN!!

  • pronomian||

    Just tell her you were grossing on her cellulite.

  • AlmightyJB||

    Next time. Completely ignore them and pretend they are insisibke unril the last possible second before they pass you, then look over and make quick eye contact. You'll probably see relief instead of a scowl.

  • Certified Public Asshat||

    The silent male gaze has to be the rapiest.

  • Jordan||

    The silent male glaze is definitely rapier (not the sword).

  • ||

    Yep, completely ignore them, act like they don't even exist. They really hate that. But they asked for it.

  • DEATFBIRSECIA||

    So Eddie Haskell was raping Mrs. Cleaver every time he said, "That's a lovely dress you're wearing, Mrs. Cleaver?"

  • blcartwright||

    You know Eddie wanted her

  • Palin's Buttplug||

    ENB is looking quite MILFy in her Reason photo.

  • d3x / dt3||

    DON'T TALK ABOUT MILFY!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Do you know what MILF means?

  • SugarFree||

    Moron I'd Like to Felch?

  • Los Doyers||

    Moose I'd Like to Fist?

    What? I know I'm not the only one.

  • WayfurrinStranger||

    It can't be a coincidence that you posted this comment on the same afternoon that I was earlier recalling the funniest piece of writing ever committed to paper:

    http://www.theonion.com/blogpo.....-of--11497

  • WayfurrinStranger||

    "See, moose don't necessarily want people to put transmitters or anything else into their vaginas. In fact, I'd say most moose vaginas are designed to prohibit just that from happening."

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    Moobs in Left Field?

  • Rhywun||

    Hey, leave me out of it.

    /Chuck

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    OK, this has to be the best fucking thread since 7:01.....

  • ||

    Remarks About Physical Appearance' Considered 'Sexual Violence'

    mostly in a fat girl's dreams

  • ||

    "Hey, I'm looking for treasure, Can I look around your chest?"

  • Los Doyers||

    "Can I be Aladdin and check out your Cave of Wonders?"

  • Unicorn Abattoir||

    "I got two tickets to paradise, can I check your luggage?"

  • fish||

    ...can mah hog feed in your trough?

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Suuuuuiiiiii

  • wFt||

    "Your pants must be made out of mirrors because I can see myself in them."

    Can I play Santa Clause and slide up your chimney?

  • The Late P Brooks||

    "and include remarks about physical appearance, persistent sexual advances that are undesired by the recipient, threats of force to get someone to engage in sexual behavior, as well as unwanted touching and unwanted oral, anal, or vaginal penetration or attempted penetration."


    When everything is rape, nothing is rape.

  • Mrs. Lemuel Struthers||

    ^ This. Because remarks about physical appearance are the same as anal penetration.

  • Mrs. Lemuel Struthers||

    Now I'm off to Rutgers to sexually harass some male students with impunity.

  • lap83||

    Disgusting. Take me with you

  • Irish ♥s ESB||

    Leave those boys alone, they're half your age!

    You disgust me.

  • Pan Zagloba||

    Fuck it, they should have known universities are rape factories. Full steam ahead, Your Ladyship!

  • Irish ♥s ESB||

    Sure, when she hits on 20 year olds that's totally okay even though they're 20-something years younger than she is, but when I hit on 15 year olds, suddenly there's something wrong with me even though we're way closer in age.

    I can only assume this is evidence of female privilege.

  • lap83||

    "but when I hit on 15 year olds, suddenly there's something wrong with me even though we're way closer in age."

    Yeah, but you're like 10 years old. Those girls are way out of your league.

  • Mrs. Lemuel Struthers||

    You disgust me.

    I know, baby. Now go put on something sexy. *pinches Irish's ass*

  • R C Dean||

    Get a room, you two.

    With a webcam.

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Careful what you wish for.

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Ohhhhh, my eyeeeeeeeeeeesssss...........

  • ||

    Now I'm off to Rutgers to sexually harass some male students with impunity.

    I can never figure out if I'm allowed to do this or not...

    I just assume yes, but I figure I'll get in trouble for it eventually.

  • The Last American Hero||

    You are in a protected class, you so you'll be OK.

  • ||

    I forgot about the John Doctrine of law.

    Thanks, TLAH

  • Los Doyers||

    I've always assumed your hand on my leg was an honest drunken mistake.

  • ||

    Considering I don't remember doing it, it probably was, but it also doesn't surprise me.

  • Los Doyers||

    Actually, I don't remember the bulk of our interactions the past few months. I just remember them starting with a strong Irish mule.

  • ||

    Sometimes a hand on a knee is just a hand on a knee.

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Until, "Wait, that's NOT your knee?"

  • The Late P Brooks||

    "Here we are. I think I'll go back to the party and see if I can find a girl who's not suffering from some bizarre psychosis, this time. Good night."

  • R C Dean||

    include remarks about physical appearance

    So, if I say to that cute hippie chick "Hey, cool Che shirt", I can be kicked out of Rutgers unless I first got her affirmative consent to comment on her clothes?

    Is that how this works?

    When everything is rape, nothing is rape.

    No, when everything is rape, male students are allowed to attend only at the sufferance of the women on campus. As, I guess, it should be. Because equality.

  • Certified Public Asshat||

    A few years from now:

    Me: Son, if you want to start a conversation with a girl, just compliment her...

    Son: WHOAH, WHOAH, WHOAH. THAT's SEXUAL VIOLENCE!

  • ||

    No, when everything is rape, male students are allowed to attend only at the sufferance of the women on campus. As, I guess, it should be. Because equality.

    How else do you interpret 'persistent sexual advances' other than walking around with a penis in front of you? Duh!

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Affirmative consent?

    "Can I tell you that you have a great ass???"

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    I see what you did there. And I approve.

  • JWatts||

    "So, if I say to that cute hippie chick "Hey, cool Che shirt", I can be kicked out of Rutgers unless I first got her affirmative consent to comment on her clothes?

    Is that how this works?"

    No, you got it exactly backwards. Intent matters. If you said "Che was a murderous bastard", that could get you kicked out. Because that was Triggering and Rapist and Reactionary. So three strikes right there.

  • PapayaSF||

    Clearly women need to be segregated and only go to all-female colleges. For their own protection.

  • d3x / dt3||

    They at least need their own drinking fountains.

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  • Trump-o-Matic 5000||

    Your advances are unwanted, spambot.

  • Mint Berry Crunch||

    I promise to stop assaulting Katherine Mangu Ward by pointing out that I like her purple hair.

  • ||

    So what have we really learned here?

    Upon review;

    Survey respondents were presented with that definition, then asked whether they had experienced sexual violence prior to starting school at Rutgers. Nineteen percent of all respondents and 24 percent of undergraduate women said they had.
    ...
    Overall, 13 percent of students, including 20 percent of undergraduate women, experienced some sort of unwanted sexual contact since starting school at Rutgers.

    Attending Rutgers *prevents* sexual violence!

  • R C Dean||

    Attending Rutgers *prevents* sexual violence!

    I'm not surprised, since I think you'd have to be pretty well emasculated to attend Rutgers.

  • *GILMORE*||

    "Rutgers used definitions of sexual violence and sexual assault based on material from the White House task force."

    they're the same definitions they've used at the CDC since 2010

    http://www.cdc.gov/violencepre.....f#page=117

    we've been moaning about this for years but every time it pops up people seem to think its "brand new"

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    every time it pops up people seem to think its "brand new"

    Nope - same old wiener I've been carrying around FOREVER

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    SHE thinks it's brand new so go with it...

  • Fist of Etiquette||

    Those ladies are never going to land a husband.

  • R C Dean||

    They may be more in the market for a wife.

  • paranoid android||

    "The Revolution Starts Here: End Sexual Violence Now."

    Wait, is that before or after we finish our metaphorical military campaigns against drug use, poverty, bullying, crime, climate change, hunger, illegal immigration, AIDS, unemployment, drunk driving, and cancer, all of which I have been told my entire life we are *this* close to solving forever if only we would hand massive amounts of (more) money to connected interest groups and politicians?

  • Je suis Woodchipper||

    Online courses are looking more favorable by the day.

  • kinnath||

    So is "sugar tits" still allowed or not?

  • Banjos||

    Only if it's followed by an ass slap.

  • kinnath||

    hello Banjos. How are the kids?

  • Banjos||

    Plentiful and destructive.

  • kinnath||

    excellent.

    enjoy them while they're young.

    they eventually become teens.

  • R C Dean||

    Spent some time recently with friends who have small children.

    Holy crap, is that a lot of work.

  • Banjos||

    Let me put it this way, I dropped all my pregnancy weight in less than a month without dieting and purposeful exercise. Half my day is spent chasing them, the other is spent scrubbing fecal matter off of various surfaces.

  • SugarFree||

    the other is spent scrubbing fecal matter off of various surfaces.

    But enough about Sloopy...

  • Free Society||

    Seems like a tit slap would be more appropriate. Women love that shit.

  • ||

    Just wait, Rutgers, when we unleash our fully weaponized Warty. Only then will you truly understand what sexual violence is.

  • Banjos||

    This is what happens when you allow a pendulum to swing too far to one side. It naturally swings too far to the other. Just like how 8 years of hyper PC rhetoric gave us Trump and his troglodyte followers, over exaggerations of sexual assault epidemics gave us Warty.

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    “I am the punishment of God...If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.” ― Warty

  • SugarFree||

    Warty has existed since the morning of the world and shall exist until the last star falls from the heavens. Though he has taken the form of a time-traveling pervert, he is all men as he is none. Therefore, he is a GOD.

  • Irish ♥s ESB||

    Local communist expresses angst, dismay at the moral decline of America.

    God, I love her. She's like my opposite. One day, I fully suspect we'll swordfight on top of a mastodon for the fate of the universe, but we'll know each others' moves because we're actually genetic duplicates from mirror universes where one of us was born a man and the other a woman*.

    *I know that therefore we can't be real genetic duplicates because of the whole chromosome thing, but mirror universes work in strange and mysterious ways.

  • paranoid android||

    I don't suppose you were found abandoned under a pool table in a box labeled "ouroboros" when you were a baby, were you?

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    The dead tooth will distract you for a SPLIT second, and you'll be done.

    This will complete The Prophecy.

    So it is written, so let it be done...

  • Irish ♥s ESB||

    Oh, LOFUCKINGL from the comments:

    Alexios ‏@alexios13 10m10 minutes ago
    @ebruenig @brokenbottleboy Well, college students certainly are prime "users" of their "service" (yay capitalism!)

    The only reason college students like porn is because capitalism has corrupted their filthy, decadent libidos.

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    Wow. Never read much pr0n in college. Too busy fucking the girls in the dorm rooms the next floor up.

    Poor kids today :(

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    Read?

  • ||

    Almanian is secretly a woman. The mask has slipped. He She loves erotica.

  • R C Dean||

    Good point. Only chicks read porn.

    Got something to tell us, Almanian? Don't worry, we're famously non-judgmental.

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    "in the dorm rooms the next floor up" Fuck try the room next door.....or the next shower stall. Man, I loved me some liberal west coast college of the '80's. Coed floors and bathrooms. Nirvana. What the fuck is wrong with college students now?

  • blcartwright||

    people look at porn when it's easier than convincing another human to join in the fun

  • SugarFree||

    Who knew that PCU would be one of the more prescient movies of the last 25 years?

  • Plàya Manhattan.||

    We're not gonna protest!

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    I personally have George Clinton play all my parties to this day.

  • Slammer||

    "Hello, darlin', your mattress looks nice today."

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    A nice springtime outfit...

  • wareagle||

    the bar to peak derp just keeps getting higher. Or is it lower?

  • Almanian Bridges, Not Walls||

    There are no bars to peak derp - just an escalator

  • ||

    In the case of this campus sex freak out, it's more like a warp drive.

  • Trump-o-Matic 5000||

    We will never reach peak derp

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Not enough iron for the manacles? "Stoke the furnaces!"

  • Number 2||

    What did you expect? This was a politically motivated survey purposely designed to achieve a politically desired result.

  • Gilbert Martin||

    "Sexual assault' and 'sexual violence' refer to a range of behaviors that are unwanted by the recipient"

    Hmmm.

    I guess that means the IRS is engaging in sexual assault when it requires me to file a 1040 form and pay my taxes as that is a behavior that is definitely unwanted by this recipient.

  • ||

    It certainly feels like rape.

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    +1 No Rearfund this year

  • PapayaSF||

    "Hi! I see you in English Lit class and you always look nice. Would you like to go out sometime?"

    "HELP!!! SEXUAL ASSAULT!!!"

  • R C Dean||

    That's multiple sexual assaults. I count two for sure ("you always look nice" and "would you like to go out"), maybe three or four ("Hi" and "I see you").

  • ||

    To start with, the proper permits were not acquired from the campus ministry of sex control, and the proper training was not completed, fees not paid. It's only after all of that you can ask the girl out and get accused of rape.

    Gawd, I wish I was attending college today. Please pass the hemlock.

  • ||

    "The Rutgers survey—conducted by the school's Center on Violence Against Women and Children at the request of the White House Task Force to Protect Students from Sexual Assault and the Department of Justice..."

    The same white house that forced reinterpretation of Title IX. The effect of which is seriously undermining the rule of law and seriously demoralizing students and faculty.

    If Obama hated this country and wanted to as much damage as possible, what would he do differently?

  • ||

    Let Hillary be Secretary of State?

  • R C Dean||

    Let John Kerry be Secretary of State?

  • Paul.||

    *in Arnold Schwartzenegger voice*

    IT'S NOT A TREATY!

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    I got nothin'

  • Paul.||

    Huh, sexual "violence".

    But when a cop kills an unarmed homeowner in a wrong-door raid, that's called "getting home safely".

  • MaleMatters||

    Re: "and include remarks about physical appearance, persistent sexual advances that are undesired by the recipient...."

    When a man compliments a woman at work, he often does so merely to foster harmony, as he might do with another man. If he is interested in her romantically, he may compliment her to show not only that he likes her, but also to test out her responses to see whether she is receptive to a request for a date. Such “testing-out” compliments have long been how men try to open the door to a courtship with a woman. Since the Ninth Circuit Court in 1991 expressed the view that even well-intentioned compliments can form the basis for sexual harassment claims, some men in the workplace have shifted from testing women out with words of appreciation to avoiding them as much as possible.

    From "The Sexual Harassment Quagmire: How To Dig Out" http://malemattersusa.wordpres.....-quagmire/

    This may be the most exhaustive analysis you can find of what I think is the sexes' most alienating and destructive behavioral difference. I believe this difference creates much of what is called sexual assault of women.

  • ||

    We already breaked the story about nothing ):

  • ||

    I haz a sad

  • SIV||

    tHE POST ABOVE THIS WENT AWAY:(

  • ||

    The libertarian moment has ended.

  • Rich||

    NO!! Everything lives forever on the Intertoobs!

  • ||

    It self imploded due to the blazing hot wit of all the posters. May the story about nothing RIP.

  • Rich||

    Only a dream ....

  • Los Doyers||

    *Awakes in a daze*

    Huh? Wha? What happened to the conservative bomb thread? And why is my ass sore?

  • Je suis Woodchipper||

    time travel. only way to explain what just happened.

  • ||

    The Jacket givith, and the Jacket taketh away.

  • Paul.||

    You mean The Jacket Taketh, the Jacket giveth away!

  • Gene||

    F5ed into oblivion.

  • Rich||

    Are you in a hotel bathtub full of ice?

  • Los Doyers||

    Dry ice, yes.

  • *GILMORE*||

    SQUIRRELPOCOLYPSE HAS COME

    IT IS THE SECOND SIGN

    YESTERDAY, THERE WAS A POST WITH 5 LINKS

    5!!

    TODAY WE HAVE RECEIVED THE SILENT POST

    NEXT WE SHALL HEAR THE TRUMPET OF ...SOMETHING....AND THE SKY WILL RAIN BLOOD

    AND AN ABORTION THREAD THAT NEVER ENDS WILL COME

  • Los Doyers||

    Wait, does that make John's constant screeching a warning of some sort?! A MODERN DAY H&R JOHN THE BAPTIST?

    *mind-blown*

  • ||

    Something tells me that the best post ever in the history of Reason was an accidental post, and will be re-posted later with actual content. Bummer.

  • Rich||

    *** brightens ***

    With *old* comments?

  • ||

    I sure hope so. Or the Jacket went from instant hero to villain in one .... moment.

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    What is this post everyone is talking about?

  • Heroic Mulatto||

    Never mind.

  • ||

    Just make sure when the article reappears with the missing content that we all say we see nothing!

  • Chocolate Starfish ( . )||

    That's one HUGE ass

  • AD-RtR/OS!||

    I think the new DoState spokeshole's mother dresses him funny, is that a "microaggression"?

  • XM||

    This kind of survey is just asking to be hijacked by women (and possibly men) driven by an agenda, or those who can't distinguish between a pushy boyfriend and something considerably more sinister.

    If you weren't in a mood in for sex, communicated that to your boyfriend, but begrudgingly gave in because he guilt tripped you, that's not criminal conduct. That's your boyfriend being a jerk. It's a normal part of a relationship.

    I've seen guys plant kisses or grope their gal pals. The girls will say "eewwww stop it Thomas", push them back and nothing happens. Sexual assault! It happens to 1 in 4 women in college, which HQ for horny boys full of raging hormones!

    As for drunk sex, is that supposed to be dangerous? I guess then 3 in for 4 women are rape victims in every part of the country.

  • Don'tTreadOnMeChipper||

    Yeah, my lady is out with the girls and looking forward to a little rape later on. See ya'll from cell block eleventy1111!

  • NeoEve||

    Newslfash! Being a jerk and guilt-tripping for sex is not actually a normal part of a relationship. Isn't that great? Some people (men and women) are sexually quite healthy and well-adjusted, which means they communicate like adults to structure relationships in a way that ensures their needs are met (both sexual and otherwise), and are utterly turned off by the idea of having sex with someone who doesn't want to have sex back.

    Yeah, and let's all commit to some clearer, healthier communication about sex because we don't know how to ask for and respect the answer and/or give or deny. There's a tricky grey area around sex that confuses us all and yet nobody seems to want to admit it. Call it an existential crisis. We're all learning to have conversations and the government's probably not going to be much help with that. Neither are smart-talking professional rape denialists.

  • NeoEve||

    And BTW, rape is real. And it sucks. Period. I think Ms. Nolan Brown may have forgot to mention that.

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  • Berserkerscientist||

    It is unfortunate because they have lumped touching someone or trying to kiss someone in with rape. They also lumped coercing and threatening. Like someone saying "pllleeeaasse" is the same as someone threatening with a knife. I really wish they would have asked how many people were raped, even though that is a very difficult question.

    But there are some really interesting statistics:

    Sexual contact when drunk ... women 6% men 3%
    Why didn't you tell anyone? ... Didn't think it was serious 50%

  • wFt||

    The Federal Government is fueling this hysteria, and there are countless vendors and other entities vying to profit off of it. There will be numerous proposals to provide programs and other interventions to address this "crisis" and untold amounts of tax dollars spent to support it. It is a virtual feeding frenzy, and woe to anyone who is accused to committing a transgression be it a "catcall" or actual sexual assault, or just the accusation of doing so, where young people will find themselves guilty by default and burdened with proving their innocence to college administrations who are hell bent upon demonstrating how vigilant they are.

    We have most assuredly gone down the rabbit hole and everyone here is mad.

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