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War

March Madness

Plus: A seventh American has been killed in the Iran conflict, the U.S. is almost certainly responsible for school strike, how Lindsey Graham helped start the war, and more...

Eric Boehm | 3.9.2026 9:30 AM

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The world faces the most severe energy crisis since the 1970s, thanks to the U.S./Israeli war with Iran.

The war has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, a critical choke point between the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean. A large portion of the world's oil supply flows through it, as do other critical items, from fertilizer to helium.

"In the whole written history of the strait, it has never been closed, ever," JPMorgan Chase analyst Natasha Kaneva told The Wall Street Journal. "To me, it was not just the worst-case scenario. It was an unthinkable scenario."

Oil prices have climbed from about $70 per barrel to over $100 per barrel since the start of March, as markets have responded to the potential for long-term shortages. Iraq is producing about one-third as much oil daily as before the war. Countries along the Persian Gulf have slowed or halted production, and a refinery in Bahrain was on fire Monday morning after being struck by an Iranian drone.

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Stock markets in South Korea and Japan fell sharply in early trading on Monday. America may be somewhat sheltered from the impact of the energy crisis, thanks to our own ample supply of oil and natural gas, but stocks are expected to fall and prices at the pump are up 17 percent since the war began.

Obviously, the longer the conflict in Iran lasts, the more significant the economic fallout will be.

A shipping CEO with tankers near Strait of Hormuz used two words a few hours ago about need for the US to "immediately", "urgently" open the Strait. Asked "does the White House understand what is at stake?"

— Erin Burnett (@ErinBurnett) March 8, 2026

Over the past year, Trump has repeatedly backed down when global markets have sounded the alarm. Will he do the same this time? The next few days will likely give the answer.

As the war spirals into its second week, bad news abounds. A brief summary of where things stand:

  • Iran's new supreme leader is Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who was killed in the airstrikes that started the war last week. If the Trump administration was hoping that knocking off most of Iran's senior leadership would allow a more moderate figure to rise, the younger Khamenei seems unlikely to fit that bill—and even less so now if, as Iran's government reports, his father, wife, and child were killed in the war's opening salvo.
  • At least seven Americans have been killed and 18 others wounded. The war is costing an estimated $1 billion per day. The Pentagon is reportedly preparing for a long-term conflict that lasts until September.
  • The collateral damage has been astonishing and horrific. An American airstrike on a school was likely responsible for the deaths of 170 Iranian civilians there, including dozens of children—despite Trump's claim that an errant Iranian missile struck the school.

New video adds to the growing evidence that the U.S. hit an elementary school killing 175 people. It contradicts President Trump's claim that Iran was responsible.

First reported by @Easybakeovensz & @mabl2k. NYT story with @johnismay below.
https://t.co/u6rXAHPZJo

— Malachy Browne (@malachybrowne) March 9, 2026

  • Residents of Tehran awoke Sunday morning to black rain and clouds of smoke after airstrikes hit oil infrastructure near the city. Meanwhile, Iranian drone strikes hit critical desalination infrastructure in Bahrain.
  • There's also the threat of blowback. Police in Norway are investigating an explosion outside the U.S. embassy in Oslo. Asked last week about the possibility of attacks targeting Americans at home or abroad, Trump shrugged it off, acknowledging that "some people will die."
  • In the U.S., rising oil prices could do more than inflict temporary pain at the pump and in the stock market. The Atlanta Federal Reserve's estimate for economic output during the first quarter of this year fell from 3 percent to 2.1 percent in less than a week. Higher oil prices could also stoke inflation across the economy.
  • And here's the cherry on top: White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt declined to rule out the possibility of a military draft when asked about it on Sunday.

So it's not officially a war, and we're definitely not putting boots on the ground—but hey now, don't get too hasty, it's too soon to say whether your children will be enslaved to fight for…well, whatever it is America is trying to accomplish with this poorly planned and recklessly executed war.

Do I have to play the clip? OK, play the clip:

Trump: "Kamala would get us into World War III…All of your sons and daughters will end up getting a draft notice, a thing called the draft. 'Dad, what's this?' 'Oh, congratulations, you've been drafted into the military. You're going to fight a war.'" https://t.co/OH4eZRqDXV pic.twitter.com/D4L8i6PCNF

— Home of the Brave (@OfTheBraveUSA) March 8, 2026

As always, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. Nine days ago, the government of Iran was headed by murderous, awful people. Many of them are now dead. In a vacuum, that is a positive development. But it seems to have solved nothing, and the tradeoffs are becoming impossible to ignore.

The one person who seems giddy about all this is Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.). Back in 2019, President Donald Trump accused Graham of having an endless appetite for war in the Middle East. "Lindsay Graham would like to stay in the Middle East for the next thousand years, with thousands of soldiers and fighting other people's wars. I want to get out of the Middle East," Trump said at the time.

Now, Trump seems to be granting Graham's wish—and Graham has become one of the loudest and most bloodthirsty cheerleaders for the Iran war. During an unhinged appearance on Fox News on Sunday, Graham declared his desire to "blow the hell out of these people" and promised that America would "make a ton of money" by taking out Iran.

One suspects that the last remark was intended to reassure exactly one person. Indeed, Sunday's interview came on the heels of a Wall Street Journal report explaining how Graham (while working with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu) sold Trump on going to war in Iran. "Lindsey hasn't seen a fist fight he hasn't wanted to turn into a bombing raid," Rep. Tim Burchett (R–Tenn.) told the Journal.

If Graham has anything to say about it—and he seems to have a frankly disturbing level of influence at the moment—there will be more wars coming soon.

Lindsey Graham: "You see this hat? Free Cuba. Stay tuned. The liberation of Cuba is upon us…Iran is going down and Cuba is next." pic.twitter.com/Yqy4ECggvb

— The Bulwark (@BulwarkOnline) March 8, 2026


In Memoriam: Auburn University economist Roger Garrison has died. Garrison was best known for his 2001 book Time and Money: The Macroeconomics of Capital Structure, which expanded on the Austrian business cycle theory developed by Ludwig von Mises and Friedrich Hayek.

Here's a 2012 lecture where Garrison explained how the "boom and bust" cycles in the economy affect everything from infrastructure spending to tax policy:


QUICK HITS

  • Americans who criticize the administration's immigration crackdown are being targeted as part of a "government campaign to detain and demonize dissenters." 
  • Ruben Ray Martinez, an American citizen, was shot and killed by immigration enforcement agents in March 2025, but the Department of Homeland Security kept the incident under wraps until last month.
  • A device found during a protest outside Gracie Mansion was "an improvised explosive device that could have caused serious injury or death," according to the New York City Police.
  • Fox News apologized for showing "incorrect" footage of President Donald Trump receiving the remains of American soldiers killed in the Middle East. Trump had been criticized for wearing a baseball cap during the ceremony, but Fox misled viewers by using old footage of a hatless Trump.
  • Lots of ugly news in the Roundup this morning, so let's finish with a palate cleanser. Please enjoy this footage of Kyle Schwarber doing his best George Washington impression:

NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

KYLE SCHWARBER GIVES TEAM USA THE LEAD ???????? pic.twitter.com/s0r7SsCKSo

— World Baseball Classic (@WBCBaseball) March 8, 2026

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The world faces the most severe energy crisis since the 1970s, thanks to the U.S./Israeli war with Iran.

    Where's that Venezuelan oil I was promised?

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      I think they have to refine it in Gulfport first or something

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      It takes a while to assemble and deploy a hose long enough to pump it directly into your house.

    3. Nelson   2 months ago

      It will be coming as soon at the Trump family gets their share of the profits. You can’t set up a clandestine bribery scheme overnight, ya know.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        You misspelled ‘Biden family’. And they’re done.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Iran's new supreme leader is Mojtaba Khamenei, the son of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, who was killed in the airstrikes that started the war last week.

    I suspect Israel already knows his current location.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      He’s already wounded.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Mojtaba has bigger problems than Israel. Apparently he’s not qualified to be Supreme Leader according to the Iranian Constitution. He’s a lower level religious scholar instead of an Ayatollah.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        He is the Iranian trump with tens of millions in property in just Britain. More globally.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          Probably a little less corrupt than Trump, but essentially you’re right.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Man, you can just feel the TDS dripping off that comment.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

        An Iranian District Judge said its OK

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          ICWYDT

        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          But won’t it be overturned by an Iranian appeals court?

      3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        How much XP does he need to level up?

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The war is costing an estimated $1 billion per day. The Pentagon is reportedly preparing for a long-term conflict that lasts until September.

    September? Ain't no one got that kind of attention span.

    1. Minadin   2 months ago

      I've heard wild-assed guesses from people who have no idea what they're talking about, ranging from $800 million to $2 Billlion.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Maybe we can convince them to support DOGE to find out how much.

        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

          No. We can only find out the correct way as determined by various democrats.

        2. Nelson   2 months ago

          Why would they support such an incompetent group to do anything? If DOGE were cleaning the toilets, they would (appropriately) all be full of shit.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            But enough about yourself, Nelson.

      2. Chupacabra   2 months ago

        We need that money for Somalian Learing Centers.

      3. mad.casual   2 months ago

        What's Congress gonna do? Abdicate some more? We haven't had a budget for 30 yrs.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      Geez, Forever lasts til Labor Day?

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        If you're a pre-teen, yeah. The last few months before summer break was always a slog.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      In that case I look forward to the Epstein files dominating the news cycle in October.

      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

        And any other national or international events are a ploy to distract from them.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Is that when the Mission Accomplished gets hung?

      1. Square = Circle   2 months ago

        You don't understand. It's different this time. This time toppling a brutal, terrorist supporting dictatorship is going to lead to more peace and stability in the region.

        1. Nelson   2 months ago

          The three hundredth time’s the charm?

  4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    A shipping CEO with tankers near Strait of Hormuz used two words a few hours ago about need for the US to "immediately", "urgently" open the Strait. Asked "does the White House understand what is at stake?"

    Yes, everyone is worried about your bonus.

    1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      He can pay for an escort. What is with these people thinking they should get free service for their businesses?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Meanwhile, Iranian drone strikes hit critical desalination infrastructure in Bahrain.

    Sounds like Iran is winning the war.

  6. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    As always, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. Nine days ago, the government of Iran was headed by murderous, awful people. Many of them are now dead. In a vacuum, that is a positive development. But it seems to have solved nothing, and the tradeoffs are becoming impossible to ignore.

    If you can’t fix a country in 9 days, why bother?

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Imagine how much money reason must spend on impulse buys during checkout.

    2. Nelson   2 months ago

      We can’t six Iran at all without boots on the ground. And that’s completely unacceptable, not only to libertarians, not only to normies, bit to a sizable chunk of MAGA as well.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt declined to rule out the possibility of a military draft when asked about it on Sunday.

    Having had zoomer staff under my supervision, I can tell you that the United States military does not want that.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I ran will be destroyed by and unprecedented swarm of drones but all the footage will be livestreams of anime pilots turning little Labubu characters into explosions of confetti with no less than 3 other people providing mindless commentary.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      "Kamala would get us into World War III…All of your sons and daughters will end up getting a draft notice, a thing called the draft. 'Dad, what's this?' 'Oh, congratulations, you've been drafted into the military. You're going to fight a war.'"

      As if President Donald ‘Bone Spurs’ Trump would know fuck all about getting drafted.

      1. JFree   2 months ago

        Some of you may die but it is a sacrifice I am willing to make.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Some were already dying.

    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Hey now. If they are like mine, they'll bring their awfl parents with them.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Nine days ago, the government of Iran was headed by murderous, awful people. Many of them are now dead. In a vacuum, that is a positive development. But it seems to have solved nothing, and the tradeoffs are becoming impossible to ignore.

    Technically we've been ignoring tradeoffs for 40 years.

  9. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    The war has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz

    And how many times has Iran closed the Strait all on its own, and seized ships in the Strait?

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Look at me. Look at me! I-ran the captain now.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Even setting that dishonesty aside, "the war" closing it is a dishonest framing also. The US isn't threatening to sink any ship that goes through it.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      It’s more of an insurance issue than anything else. Lloyds won’t insure the vessels.

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        Pay for an escort. Oil companies need to secure their ships.

        Why should the US tax payers pay to secure Chinese or Indian or anyone else's oil?

    4. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      And how many times has Iran closed the Strait all on its own

      0

      1. Minadin   2 months ago

        Well, that's inaccurate, and I suspect you know that.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          You get used to Mike being intentionally deceptive.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          OK. List the closures.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

            "Official" de jure closure might well be zero. De facto closures from Iran's threats are not zero.

            The Suez Canal has seldom been officially closed, but the Houthis have closed it quite a lot. They are supported by Iran, are they not? Same method.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

              the Houthis have closed it quite a lot

              This is trump's fault.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                You are full of shit.

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

                  Well, everything else is, so why not?

                2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

                  ^Worst. Sarcasm. Detector. Ever.

                3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                  Sevo, I think your sarcasm detector needs a new battery.

            2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              The article is about the Straight of Hormuz. Are you talking about the The Houthis interfering with Suez Canal traffic by obstructing the Bab el‑Mandeb Strait? Maybe that's the disconnect here.

              Iran controls the Persian Gulf while the Houthis are on the Red Sea.

              1. Minadin   2 months ago

                He's using it as a comparison, not conflating the two.

                Iran does NOT control the Persian Gulf. They just repeatedly TRY to. If anyone controls the Persian Gulf, it's the US Navy.

                In any event, Iran has a history of repeatedly disrupting shipping traffic in that area. At one point, in the 80's, they mined the straits, and the incidents that sprung from that led to Operation Praying Mantis, where we sunk half their navy, and destroyed two oil rigs, in a single afternoon.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  OK. The comparison point makes sense.

                  So you haven't come up with any instances of "Iran closed the Strait all on its own"? You name an instance where they interfered with gulf traffic 30 years ago as part of the Iran Iraq war...as a counter tactic to the gulf states as those states and the US were assisting the Iraqis.

                  Maybe if we just left them alone and let Israel fend for itself, we wouldn't have to worry about the Straight closing every 30 years and deal with inflated oil prices.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

                    Maybe if we just left them alone and let Israel fend for itself, we wouldn't have to worry

                    This is an article of faith that you should rethink.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Faith? It's common sense and logic. It's also just like Ron Paul says and he's been proven right over and over again.

                    2. Marshal   2 months ago

                      It's also just like Ron Paul says and he's been proven right over and over again.

                      Paul routinely says it's not with going to war, and he may be right. But the belief Iran will leave us alone if we aren't involved in the ME is stupid.

                    3. Marshal   2 months ago

                      not worth it going to war

                    4. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Ron Paul says, "Why are we over there? They couldn't bother us if we weren't there."

                      It's hard to argue with although we've likely replenished the supply of terroristic blowback now.

                    5. Marshal   2 months ago

                      It's hard to argue with

                      It's actually not hard to argue with at all. The mullahs have always done everything they can to harm us including trying to kill our guys around the world. The premise they would stop doing so if only we were nice enough contradicts their entire history. In fact we did ignore Iran for most of its history which led directly to their campaign of hate.

                      we've likely replenished the supply of terroristic blowback now.

                      Another Blame-America-Firster. Back in reality Iran and most other Muslim countries raise their children to hate America and nothing we do is likely to change the number who internalize that message as long as the mullahs control their education and media. Appeasement doesn't lessen their hate, it teaches them that we will surrender if they are violent enough.

                    6. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Another Blame-America-Firster

                      You accuse Iranians of brainwashing their children then spout off on the idiocy that we were brainwashed to believe ourselves. Acknowledging our nations actions prompt reactions is absurd to deny. Why do they teach that?

                      And I don't want appeasement. I want us to ignore them and their part of the world.

                      So yeah. Just like Ron Paul, I hate America.

                  2. Marshal   2 months ago

                    Acknowledging our nations actions prompt reactions is absurd to deny. Why do they teach that?

                    They don't. Why do they teach that everything everywhere is America's fault as if no other person or entity on earth has agency?

                    Because their only goal is denigrating America. You can tell this happens and not the reverse by noting how they invent clearly false mythology to achieve this goal, like the 1619 Project. Or by noting the clear nonsense they assert like Iran would stop supporting terrorism if we just leave them alone. Of course since we did leave them alone until their revolution when they began fucking with us that's not a particularly compelling argument, but then left wingers deal in mythology not reality.

                    So yeah. Just like Ron Paul, I hate America.

                    I didn't say that, you pretend so to victim-pose. I said you blame America first, and only, as if no one else is responsible for anything.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      I didn't say that, you pretend so to victim-pose. I said you blame America first, and only, as if no one else is responsible for anything.

                      Marshal, I've read your posts. I know you're not this dumb. Why repeat a narrative that ignores:

                      America and the federal government are NOT THE SAME THING. I can despise the state and still love the country. This is especially true with foreign affairs. We elected 4(?) presidents in a row (Biden as the exception) who ran as anti-war. All turned out to be warmongers (ironically leaving Biden as the least warmongery).

                      We gave Saddam intelligence/weapons that he used to kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians.

                      That if we get bogged down here, Taiwan is lost and with it any hopes we have of competing with China in AI.

                      That we will spend billions or trillions of dollars that we don't have on this war.

                      That we have been crushing Iranian citizens with sanctions despite the fact that they have essentially no control over the regime of their nation. As an American citizen, I sympathize since we suffer with the same.

                      That all previous wars in the region made the war less safe than it was before.

                      That all previous wars in the region resulted in the deaths of millions of people.

                      So please, approach this argument with the rationality and intelligence I know you have and leave the uber-stupid "blame America first" rhetoric to the morons who can't do better. It's a pathetically weak argument that ignores tons of facts and makes you looker dumber for using it.

                      I have a great deal of respect for the solid challenges to my comments that you've made on multiple occasions. So please, come at me with some of that instead of this knuckle-dragging, mouth breathing partisan one-liner designed to shut down rather than address the argument.

                    2. Marshal   2 months ago

                      I can despise the state and still love the country.

                      It's an odd point since I already explicitly stated I did not accuse you of being anti-American, I accused you of blaming it for every negative outcome regardless of what any other country has done. So either you can't read or you're intentionally trying to lead the discussion away from your Blame-America-First policy which is so obviously true you don't even deny it.

                      America and the federal government are NOT THE SAME THING.

                      See above, you claim ignoring this is some major failure but in reality is simply isn't relevant.

                      We gave Saddam intelligence/weapons that he used to kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians.

                      Which came first, the Iranian Revolution or the Iran-Iraq War? Do we need a remedial lesson on how time works?

                      That all previous wars in the region made the war less safe than it was before. That all previous wars in the region resulted in the deaths of millions of people.

                      All of which is irrelevant. I was explicit that I did not challenge Paul's thinking on this issue, only to the fantasy that Iran would leave us alone if we are nice enough. You've chosen to challenge a position I did not claim because you cannot effectively challenge what I did claim.

                      "blame America first" rhetoric to the morons who can't do better. It's a pathetically weak argument that ignores tons of facts and makes you looker dumber for using it.

                      Of course this is an idiotic summary, in fact blaming America (only) is a narrative requirement because it allows you to fantasize that without our action Iran would leave us alone. By pretending it is unrelated partisanship you deny the cause and effect which explains why you do it.

                      Paul's position suffers from the same failure. Everyone's first instinct is to minimize the negative aspects of their own policy preferences, sometimes subconsciously, and in extreme cases pretending none exist. That is what drives this particular fantasy.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Blame-America-First policy

                      Blame, hate..same weak and stupid argument. And if you insist on using the dumbest, absolutist arguments [you blame America first, and only, as if no one else is responsible for anything] then we have nothing to discuss. Acknowledging our government's actions cause reactions neither implies it is not so for Iran, nor that Iran is blameless in the situation. But what is clear is that this is a war of choice for the US and is not for Iran.

                      Which came first, the Iranian Revolution or the Iran-Iraq War? Do we need a remedial lesson on how time works?

                      Speaking of irrelevant. Are we in kindergarten? "He hit me first" is merely a small consideration among many variables. And by the way, which came first, the Iranian revolution or the regime change of the Shah?

                      You've chosen to challenge a position I did not claim because you cannot effectively challenge what I did claim.

                      No. I did that in addition to challenging what you claim. I said they would leave us alone because they don't have the technology to reach us at home. Any argument beyond that is just an improvable counterfactual for either side, but at least my argument rests on basic human psychology whereas yours rests on a good vs. evil absolutism.

                    4. Marshal   2 months ago

                      But what is clear is that this is a war of choice for the US and is not for Iran.

                      Which is again irrelevant because we are not discussing the war, but rather the fantasy that Iran would leave us alone if we left them alone.

                      "He hit me first" is merely a small consideration among many variables.

                      The interesting element here is how quickly you disclaim your own supposed principles. "He hit me first" is not a justification, it's noting the specific issue in dispute (that Iran would leave us alone if we were nicer to them) has already been proven false and that nothing which happened after that can change that fact. But when your own principles work against you claim they become childish. Something in this is surely childish, but it's how you thrash around grasping at contradictory support to avoid acknowledging the obvious flaws in your positions.

                      And by the way, which came first, the Iranian revolution or the regime change of the Shah?

                      You need to understand reality instead of left wing mythology, this is Project 1619 level disinformation.

                      I said they would leave us alone because they don't have the technology to reach us at home.

                      Why limit this to "home"? Should we tell our citizens they cannot interact with the world because a bunch of whiny leftists think our very presence elsewhere gives them the right to murder us?

                      Regardless this is nonsense anyway, terrorism requires next to no technology.

                      at least my argument rests on basic human psychology

                      Your arguments rest on an ahistorical view of human history and were proven false in the case of these specific groups decades ago. Yet you keep asserting the fantasy because it justifies claiming the alternative you prefer is costless.

                      yours rests on a good vs. evil absolutism.

                      Mine rests on understanding how human institutions function. Further mine is completely consistent with how Iran has acted during the entire period of their interaction with America, whereas yours has been proven false repeatedly.

                    5. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      We don't live with the same reality. We won't make any progress here.

                      Catch you next time, Marshal.

              2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

                No, I used the Houthis as an example of a de facto closing not being a de jure closing. Iran has seized ships from the Strait of Hormuz before, and threatened to close it, which certainly affected traffic.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  OK. I got it.

              3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                Yemen is located by the Strait and it was Houthis whom here shutting down vessel traffic through the Strait of Hormuz, along with Iran.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  Get a map.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Americans who criticize the administration's immigration crackdown are being targeted as part of a "government campaign to detain and demonize dissenters."

    To be fair, it looks like the targeted are accused of more than simple protest.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Context always ruins everything.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    A device found during a protest outside Gracie Mansion was "an improvised explosive device that could have caused serious injury or death..."

    A device was found, eh?

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Not a racist joke: A guy with a bag of coke, one with an IED, and one with an underaged minor walk into a New York politician's home. The door man says, "Your kind aren't welcome here." The guy with the IED says, "It's alright, you guys go ahead, I'll just wait out here."

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Trump had been criticized for wearing a baseball cap during the ceremony, but Fox misled viewers by using old footage of a hatless Trump.

    The viewers want that glorious hair.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

      It was windy that day too. One lucky fan could have had the hair if not for the hat.

    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

      Did 60 Minutes staff produce that segment?

  13. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    Trump had been criticized for wearing a baseball cap during the ceremony,

    Fucking fashion police.

  14. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    100% Reeeee 100% progressive histrionics in the Round Up.

    There are many legit ways to criticise the war. This ain't it.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

      What are they then?

      At least seven Americans have been killed and 18 others wounded. The war is costing an estimated $1 billion per day. The Pentagon is reportedly preparing for a long-term conflict that lasts until September. Seems pretty much on point to me.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        How many have been killed by Iranian or their proxy attacks just the last decade Leo?

        I get most of your argumentation is from ignoring reality, but this conflict is approaching 50 years.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

          That talking point it about as dumb as saying we've been at war with North Korea for 73 years. But nobody makes that argument because a lunatic states he wants us dead.

          Trump wouldn't have even made this argument 2 years ago. What could have possibly changed?

          No, there's something different about Iran and the middle east. I wonder what it could be...

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Reality is dumb. Got it.

            Ignore facts. Plead from ignorance. The Leo special.

            Answer Leo. How many troops have died due to Iranian actions prior to last week. Why wont you? Your condemnation was based on deaths post last week, but you wont count prior.

            Shows your moral grandstanding is utter bullshit. And you know it.

            1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

              Plead from ignorance? I guess rhetorical devices are lost upon you. We all know that this is different because Israel and its lobbying have convinced Trump that Iran is an existential threat. It's the same argument Bibi has been making since the 1980s.

              Let me ask you this, was Trump wrong in campaigning against war in Iran or is he wrong now for conducting a war in Iran?

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Yes. You are pleading from ignorance or dishonesty. Either one's proves the point that your moral outrage is false. Even here you demure against comments of an existential threat that nobody is making. What is being asked is what has occurred gor 5 decades and you keep dodging that very question.

                You even try to switch the baseline of the discussion without answering the original question because you know your moral claims are bullshit.

                Answer the fucking question.

              2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                FFS. Why would any person require another to CONVINCE them that the Iranian regime are murderous evil terrorists? Unless they were born today, at some point they opened their eyes and say the news...

                I do not remember Trump campaigning for or against war in Iran. Cite required.

                Trump is completely and totally CORRECT to remove the Iranian regime as the Iranian people have been praying and begging for for many years.

                I doubt you would take death threats unserious. Nevermind over and over for years while your troops are attacked, injured and killed, by those who threaten to kill you.

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

            How many have been killed by Iranian or their proxy attacks just the last decade Leo?

            You forgot to answer this part.

            1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

              From what I can tell it was 4 Americans between 2023-24. We're up to 7 in just 1 week so far under Trump.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

                Can you look up the word "decade" please?

                Even your shortened timeframe is a lie.

                1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

                  Tell me what the number is then

                  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/the-iranian-regimes-decades-of-terrorism-against-american-citizens/

                    And im sure the 40k iranians they killed this year internally is no big deal to you.

                    1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

                      It's not a justification for the US to be involved in a war of choice, suddenly. And it's certainly not any indication of an imminent threat which is what Trump needs to bypass Congress, legally.

                      Why didn't Trump call for US involvement when he ran for President? In fact, he ran for exactly the opposite of this and told us that Kamala was the one that was going to take us to war. Turns out that was a lie.

                      What has happened in Iran is tragic. I'm not going to try to defend the Ayatollah who was an authoritarian, religious-zealot to say the least. None of that justifies the US getting entangled yet again in another middle east war.

                    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                      Leo. Let me ask you a simple question.

                      What does NAP mean. Had Iran violated it.

                      Right above is a decades long list of violations.

                      We get it. Youre fine with people dying. Never respond.

                      How are you different than free the criminal liberals? You have no morals. Your morals are anarchy, let people die, just shut your eyes and ignore it.

              2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Chooses a 1 year gap for a decade question, ignores the proxies lol. Claims isnt pleading from ignorance above.

                Fucking hilarious.

          3. Dillinger   2 months ago

            >>Trump wouldn't have even made this argument 2 years ago.

            T is on record making this argument in 1980

          4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   2 months ago

            Iran had enough nuclear material enriched to build a dozen bombs. We couldn’t let that happen or they would become another North Korea.

            1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

              Hilarious. They have never enriched to weapons grade. Didn't Trump claim that he completely obliterated their nuclear program last year?

              1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                Not hilarious. Your stupid is concerning.

                Seek help.

              2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                They never crossed that final line screams Leo!!!

                https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/iran-increases-output-near-bomb-grade-nuclear-material

                Sure. It is just behind the line we'll above energy use requirements. Just believe Iran!

      2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        7 dead after Iran blew almost its enitre load is actually an argument for this action. At least to those who understand war and not the made for TV conflicts where everybody comes home.

        The most obvious criticism is after 30+ years of war in the ME, dating back to Bush I, what is the shiny example of success we are trying to reproduce?

        This isn't a thing you can half ass and hope for the best. Real change, if it can even be achived, if that is what a majority of Iranians want, will take an effort the size WWII. That is the last time any of this worked and only then with a nation of similar make up as our own. Air power alone has never achived regime change or won a war.

        1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

          Air support for the Iranian people and others, kurds etc, is all that is needed. Once the IRGC has no weapons it will end quickly.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Their responses are already down 90% and they are even apologizing to other ME countries now.

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "At least seven Americans have been killed and 18 others wounded."

        And that's just from the illegals in Minnesota!

  15. mad.casual   2 months ago

    The war has effectively closed the Strait of Hormuz, a critical choke point between the Persian Gulf and the Indian Ocean.

    WTHF? "The war" has? You mean US ships are threatening and destroying any ships, including neutral and uninvolved third parties, that may try to pass through?

    Fuck you asshats.

    1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

      Don't those Iranians know they were supposed to thank us for sending them all the bombs? Liberating them by setting their oil fields on fire? It's literally raining oil over there and they didn't even say thank you. Ingrateful to say the least...

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Defending Wesley for slapping Jennie? Bold move.

        I'm sure Iran cutting the supply of oil to China will show us.

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

          Interesting reference...

          I'm not defending anyone, but it doesn't take a national security expert to predict that Iran's most logical play is to shut down the strait. It seems that the admin just expected them to roll over like Venezuela.

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            Interesting reference...

            Not to anyone whose been paying attention for the last 8 yrs. while people do some absolutely reprehensible shit to their neighbors and use Trump as an excuse.

            I'm not defending anyone

            You also aren't convincing anyone you aren't retarded.

            Iran's most logical play is to shut down the strait.

            Considering Iran doesn't even control the land on either side of the straight and has to actively broadcast threats to make their position clear, you seem to suffer the false notion that "logical" and "fanatical" are synonyms.

            Again, there's a way (several, actually) to oppose Trump without siding with the Ayatollahs and slapping your girlfriend around, unfortunately it seems it's too complicated for you.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Thank them how? Sending us pallets of cash?

        1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

          Trump would also accept an airplane as a token of gratitude.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            And you pretend to not be a maddow retard leftist lol.

            1. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

              Actually I could be using a Tucker Carlson talking point. Or maybe Dave Smith. Or Marjorie Taylor Greene. Or Thomas Massie. Leftists, every single one!

              1. damikesc   2 months ago

                Certainly a who's who of "Totally rational, not-at-all batshit nuts" people.

              2. Dillinger   2 months ago

                you forgot Candace and Nick

              3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Ahh. The anti Israel contingent. The ones largely against trump at the moment .

                Now please show me where they made the give trump a plane comment. Because that was a dem narrative proven false.

                1. damikesc   2 months ago

                  Leo's new-found respect for MTG is...interesting.

                  1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                    It always is.

                    And bringing up Dave Smith is extra funny as he is still pushing the high speed rounds magically stop in soft tissue xrays the NYT posted. Also Dave likes Nick Fuentes.

              4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                ^ When your counterpart is digging a hole, just make sure you keep him supplied with shovels.

              5. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

                All retarded, seems there is a pattern.

                Seek help.

            2. mtrueman   2 months ago

              " a maddow retard leftist lol."

              The maddow retard leftists say Saudi Arabia is pulling Trump's strings. The other retard leftists say it was Netanyahu.

    2. mtrueman   2 months ago

      "WTHF? "The war" has?"

      What is a woman war?

  16. Leo Kovalensky II   2 months ago

    Please enjoy this footage of Kyle Schwarber doing his best George Washington impression:

    I remember him hitting a dinger across the Delaware at the battle of Trenton Stadium.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      across the Delaware

      "300 ft. wouldn't even get out of the park these days." - Steve Greenhut

  17. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    How the media is covering the attempted terrorism in NYC is wild.

    Describe anti Muslim protest, mention nail bombs and IEDs, bury it was Muslims trying to attack the protestors.

    Example:

    @NBCNews
    BREAKING: A device ignited outside Zohran Mamdani's mayoral residence yesterday during an anti-Islam protest and counterprotest was confirmed to be an improvised explosive, New York City police say.

    This was across media.

    https://pjmedia.com/robert-spencer/2026/03/08/there-was-a-jihad-bombing-in-new-york-city-and-heres-how-mamdani-and-the-media-framed-it-n4950412

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Mamdani has said the cause is white supremacy.

    2. Marshal   2 months ago

      I love that the jihadi threw his IED over a counter protester complaining about outsiders. But he didn't mean the Jihadi terrorist, he meant other Americans.

      No Borders!

    3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Fucking disgusting. Looks like NBC needs to be bought out, along with WAPO and the NYTimes if the truth is going to be published ever again.

    4. mtrueman   2 months ago

      "Describe anti Muslim protest, mention nail bombs and IEDs, bury it was Muslims trying to attack the protestors. "

      But even you would have to admit it was a mostly peaceful anti Muslim protest.

  18. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    French continues to embarass himself, now calling talarico who thinks angels are abortion doctors and jesus was Trans was a good Christian.

    https://archive.is/nZtPO

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      I can't imagine who French's audience is.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        The guys, like him, who like to watch men plow their wives.

  19. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    We are to fraud is a good thing and your bad if you dont support it stage.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5771082-fraud-governing-logic-poverty/

    The war on fraud is really a war on the poor

    1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Of course. Who's going to fill their outstretched hands?

  20. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Democrats do such a good job raising your taxes they deserve raises.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/new-york-democrat-pitches-26-raise-state-legislators

  21. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Continues to amaze me democrats fail so badly at finding sympathetic illegals.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/model-migrant-wife-chopper-integration-poster-boy-accused-grisly-murder

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Meanwhile that thing that never happens keeps happening and has been for at least 20 years.

      https://www.inquirer.com/crime/illegal-immigrant-election-fraud-philadelphia-arrest-20260305.html

      Apparently checking a box isnt a good verification of citizenship.

  22. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Jeff is really losing it about the no trans surgery for kids thing.

    https://ktla.com/news/local-news/man-dies-after-allegedly-cutting-off-his-own-penis-in-downtown-los-angeles/

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Reopen the mental institutions.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      OK, we can trust "her".

    3. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      Was he a true libertarian?

  23. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Dont buy your missiles from temu.

    https://www.thedefensenews.com/news-details/Reports-Indicate-Iran-Launched-50-Secretly-Supplied-Chinese-CM-302-Missiles-That-Failed-or-Were-Intercepted-Mid-Flight-During-Attack/

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      But it was good price!

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      With a such a low price, you can achieve accuracy by volume.

  24. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

    the longer the conflict in Iran lasts, the more significant the economic fallout will be.

    Per reason coverage, we already know it is going to last forever, so why even write a line like this?

  25. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    An American airstrike on a school was likely responsible for the deaths of 170 Iranian civilians there, including dozens of children—despite Trump's claim that an errant Iranian missile struck the school.

    No one knows what really happened here. You certainly don't.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Also, what was in the tunnel under the school?

      1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        Nice story bro

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Of course, that never happens, right?
          Please don't seek treatment for your TDS; we can hope it is fatal and the world becomes measurably more intelligent.

          1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

            The little girls had PU-239 in their backpacks.

            Right, you psychotic fuck?

            1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

              No they had a Jihadist hiding behind them with a gun under the girls skirt.

              You simp for terrorists?

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      He knows what Iran and their us mouth pieces say. Even has increased the numbers post every new story.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      No one knows what really happened here.

      Somebody knew the assignment and knows exactly what happened here.

  26. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    Americans who criticize the administration's immigration crackdown are being targeted as part of a "government campaign to detain and demonize dissenters."

    Knowing nothing else I'd be willing to bet a large sum that this is not the full story of what is happening.

    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      That’s why they only give ya one sentence.

  27. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>the U.S. is almost certainly responsible for school strike

    notice we don't put naval bases next to elementary schools here.

    1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      For fucks sake people

      DoDEA operates 161 schools in 9 Districts located in 11 foreign countries, 7 states, and 2 territories across 10 time zones.
      There are nearly 900,000 military connected children of all ages worldwide, of which more than 67,000 are enrolled in DoDEA schools and served by more than 14,000 employees.

      https://dodea.widen.net/s/hnzlgvtmvq/dodea-by-the-numbers

      1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        So what? This proves nothing?

        1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

          It proves the US absolutely has elementary schools on their military bases, let alone next to their military bases. Which you knuckle head war boners would know if you ever served.

          It’s in response to the comment “notice we don't put naval bases next to elementary schools here”

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            doofus we're not hiding our soldiers in or next to schools. your reasoning skills are lacking.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Not even next to. They put up a perimeter wall around the base, put the *girls* school inside the wall, and then built interior walls. The distance between the school and the largest building "officially on the base" is ~300 ft.

      The local school district holds some 50K residents. The mid-sized city of Minab is 7X larger than the village proper. It's 300 ft. from the nearest corner of the football field to the nearest corner of the pool *at the same HS*.

  28. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>And here's the cherry on top: White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt declined to rule out the possibility of a military draft when asked about it on Sunday.

    they should never let sarc do the roundup.

  29. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Fox News apologized for showing "incorrect" footage of President Donald Trump

    Faux is as complicit as the others in bullshitting the last 10 days

  30. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Do I have to play the clip? OK, play the clip:

    playing the clip isn't your problem anyone can play a clip. understanding the clip is your problem.

  31. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>A device found during a protest outside Gracie Mansion

    assalamu alaykum.

  32. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    A billion here a billion there and it starts to add up. Hey but the trillions we spent rebuilding Iraq and Afghanistan were so worth it, I can't understand why anyone doesn't want to see a repeat.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      A pile of TDS-addled shit here, a pile of TDS-addled shit there, and pretty soon you've got Sometimes a Great Notion.

  33. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    The presdient can only engage in this war till April 27.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      end of may is 90 days

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

        Tony is a very stupid person.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Fuck off and die, 混蛋

  34. JFree   2 months ago

    From a different source:
    Israel is gripped by messianic fervor for a biblical war

    Bit by bit, Israel is changing the narrative that it exists because of the Holocaust. A new language is emerging that uses biblical stories to justify a vision of Greater Israel.

    This has been part of settler rage for decades. It has been part of JINSA's 'shared motivation' with Christian Zionist commanders in the US military. And is now being invoked by both the Israel and the US military for this war (see the "Trump is anointed by Jesus to bring about Armageddon" that is being covered up by US media). No reason to get Congress' OK when this is "God's crusade".

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      okay Candace ...

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        There really is a horseshoe theory thing going on uniting the far left islam lovers, with the far right online cooks, over "the jews bad tho"

        Candace Owens and Hasan Piker having the same talking points and basic script has been interesting to watch (via clips, anyways)

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          absolutely although I was always hopeful to not live through an antisemitic time ... made it several decades.

  35. JFree   2 months ago

    From the same source:

    Iran's Jews feeling fear and heartbreak

  36. JFree   2 months ago

    From same source again:

    UAE tycoon rules out joining Iran war

    Bit of a weird one. A Dubai-based billionaire who's not part of the royal family but hugely connected with the whole UAE real estate developer/plantation economy kind of says the quiet part out loud

  37. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    And here's the cherry on top:,

    This is a strong indicator of AI generated content

  38. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    Lies, there is no energy crisis.

    The world faces the most severe energy crisis since the 1970s, thanks to the U.S./Israeli war with Iran.

  39. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    Terrorists hide behind little children. Yet you do not recognize this in your attempt at reporting?

    Remember Hammas had their killing tunnel access under children's beds?

    Where's the article about the Ukrainian children abducted by the Russians being ethnic cleansed?

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