The Epstein Hoax Obsessives Keep Lying About Their Critics
Tara Palmeri insinuated that Michael Tracey disagrees with her because he's paid by Epstein associates. That's a lie.
One of the most prevalent propagators of the idea that Jeffrey Epstein trafficked underage girls to rich and powerful men was unable to best a critic in open debate, and instead resorted to pure ad hominem attack. But due to a poorly-timed mishap, the internet has convinced itself that this attack went unanswered, and was justified.
I am speaking, of course, about an unfortunate occurrence during an exchange between journalists Michael Tracey and Tara Palmeri on Piers Morgan Uncensored. The guests on Morgan's show are usually remote, and in this case, Tracey had trouble hearing what Palmeri was saying; as a result, he was not able to immediately answer a question from her about whether any Epstein associates were paying Tracey to undermine the Epstein narrative. Palmeri summarized what happened thusly on X:
"Michael Tracey, who calls himself a journalist, has been smearing Jeffrey Epstein survivors—and sometimes me," she wrote. "I can take it. But I asked him one simple question: Are you being paid by someone powerful to attack sex-crime victims? Yes or no. His audio mysteriously died. Weird."
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Moments later, Tracey did answer the question, asserting that he was not being paid by any particular associate of Epstein, and that he makes money the same way most other independent journalists make money: from subscribers on Substack and various other platforms. Yet Palmeri was perfectly happy to insinuate on social media that Tracey had not responded to this (frankly quite ridiculous) question of hers. Various high-profile figures subsequently retweeted Palmeri's insinuation, and are working to codify the false idea that Tracey is paid opposition.
Amazing. None of these people bothered to watch 30 seconds further, where the instant I could actually hear @tarapalmeri's ludicrous question, I immediately and unequivocally replied that OF COURSE I AM NOT BEING PAID by any Epstein co-conspirators! What utter defamatory garbage! pic.twitter.com/RPoFSKlfgc
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) February 18, 2026
This is very telling, and quite representative of how the Epstein obsessives operate: Poke holes in their claims, point out that they have no evidence of what they are stating, or invoke very basic principles relating to norms of due process, and they attack you as an enabler of pedophiles, a tool of Israel, or some other nefarious thing. They resort to ad hominem because they cannot defend their central thesis, which has collapsed under scrutiny.
It Doesn't Add Up
Let's back up a bit. Tracey, if you haven't guessed, is an independent-minded journalist whose contrarian views frequently put him in conflict with the mainstream media and the Democratic establishment. For example, he was previously a major debunker of Russiagate, the theory that then-candidate Donald Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton. He is not, however, a supporter of Trump, or really a conservative of any kind. He has appeared frequently on Glenn Greenwald's show, and has guest-hosted it when Greenwald was unavailable.
Lately, Tracey's work has singularly focused on tearing down what he has described as the mythology of Jeffrey Epstein: the notion that Epstein was the head of a global cabal of pedophiles who raped children with impunity. This idea was blithely asserted as fact by the many, many commentators who have obsessively demanded the release of the Epstein files for years—but now that we do have millions of pages of documents relating to Epstein, we know that there is shockingly little evidence in support of it.
Cards on the table: I have largely come around to Tracey's way of thinking about all this. When I first learned about Epstein, around the time of his arrest and subsequent death in prison, I did not really question the sensational things I heard about him from other commentators who knew more than I did. (I never bought the idea that his death was something other than a suicide, though.) These things included the following: Epstein had procured underage girls for his elite friends; Epstein was an asset for U.S. or perhaps Israeli intelligence; the authorities had overlooked Epstein's crimes and given him a light sentence. I supported the release of the Epstein files so that we could learn more about the government's failure to obtain justice for Epstein's victims.
I now know better. Epstein himself was a serial abuser of underage girls (teenagers, not children), but there is no evidence he procured girls for other men to engage in illegal sex. There is no evidence he worked for an intelligence agency. And while it's perfectly possible to criticize the government's handling of Epstein's initial prosecution in 2008, one of the reasons that he was charged with prostitution rather than with sex-trafficking is that the evidence against him was relatively weak. And it was weak because many of the purported victims did not see themselves as such, and declined to testify against him.
But after the Epstein estate began paying out settlements, some of their tunes changed. Today, there are many Epstein victims who say that they were sex-trafficked by other rich and powerful men. Some of their stories are notoriously dicey. The most high-profile victim of Epstein, Virginia Giuffre, suffered from mental illness and ended up withdrawing her accusation against legal commentator Alan Dershowitz. (She later committed suicide.)
Those are just the facts. Epstein is still a very bad human being and a sex criminal. Many powerful people remained in contact with him even after he went to prison for sleeping with underage girls, and some even remained in close contact with him right up until the end of his life. The public is free to form negative impressions of Steve Bannon, Noam Chomsky, or Bill Gates because of this.
But the central idea of the Epstein narrative—which prompted Congress to take the unprecedented step of releasing millions of pages of uncorroborated investigative documents—was that people other than Epstein were also guilty of very serious sex crimes and had gotten away with it. We needed to release the files in order to learn which powerful men had taken advantage of Epstein's sex-trafficking services.
It has not worked out like that. The millions of pages released three weeks ago do not provide any evidence that Epstein pimped out underage girls to other elites, let alone that he was running a cabal of pedophiles. Moreover, efforts to identify names of alleged perpetrators have gone completely awry. Rep. Ro Khanna (D–Calif.), for instance, inadvertently smeared four random men who had appeared in a police lineup as criminal associates of Epstein. (They had nothing to do with Epstein.)
This is why I've become extremely worried about the release of the Epstein files, as innocent people are now being smeared as complicit in Epstein's crimes. And I am hardly alone in this:
Great list, but what should we call ourselves? Epstein rationalists, perhaps.https://t.co/3bSwnOtp8U pic.twitter.com/vctcKcChzU
— Robby Soave (@robbysoave) February 18, 2026
But there are still a great many commentators for whom it is treated as a proven fact that various global elites remained friendly with Epstein because they were complicit in his sex crimes. When you point out that there's no proof of this, then they say, well, what are you hiding?
This is becoming the textbook definition of a witch hunt, and it is extremely telling that the propagators of the Epstein narrative are willing to mislead their readers, viewers, and listeners about a critic's source of income.
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Im now on the Mike Benz point of view th as t epstein was primarily a fixer, deal maker, and bag man for democrats and globalists. The majority of information released is Epstein working to set deals up and avoid scrutiny. This includes deals for the IC.
The pedophile and prostitutes seems to be limited to a subset of his clients.
There are far more connections to democrats, bankers, globalists than anything else.
Just ask former prince Andrew.
In the land where a Perv in Tweed is a grand tradition, I think that even with what has been discovered, there is much worse that we don't know.
You have to ask his lawyer - he's been arrested.
Weird hill to die on Robby.
No one except you knows who these people are Soave.
The writer seems to be unable to know the difference between "evidence" and "evidence that I don't like". There is plenty of evidence that Epstein trafficked girls for rich people.
Also "Russiagate" was never debunked. The bulk of the allegations were found to be true. There was not enough evidence to prove or debunk the accusation that Trump knew about Russia's efforts to assist his campaign.
The Epstein affair is very much not a hoax. There is no way it would have been possible to fake that many documents.
That first paragraph, paired with that second paragraph….
The sweetness….it’s almost indescribable. Like 10,000 spoons in your Chardonnay
One of these things is not like the other. - Big Bird
The Epstein affair is very much not a hoax. But the evidence and its 'unveiling' is very much part of a cover up process. That cover up process is NOT however being addressed by either narrow pedophile legalities or bogus Russian intelligence stuff.
That cover up is why Soave can be such a useful idiot for the 'Epstein class'. He will never say boo about anything that has been covered up for 30+ years (the FBI cover up of Maria and Annie Farmers accusations that go back to 1996). Anything outside the timeline of the aborted/suppressed 2007 'investigation'/coverup. Anything that might further demands to comply with the fucking law re the release of suppressed/redacted info by DoJ or FBI or the various prosecutors. Anything that might require investigative journalism rather than PRflackery - eg how/why DID Epstein leave Bear Stearns and magically and almost immediately become a 'fixer' for Wexner and Khasshoggi at the exact moment all their other fixers were associated with the Mafia, CIA, Mossad, etc. And a bit later (1987-1993) the core driver of the largest Ponzi scheme (or was it money laundering/fixing) prior to Madoff - magically no punishment/investigation of him. There's nothing here. Move along now. Billionaires don't need 'fixers' to help them bypass laws/taxes and govt investigations (which are only for little people to obey). That is merely the sort of stuff that looters and moochers accuse billionaires of.
Lol. Retard +10
There was not enough evidence to prove or debunk the accusation that Trump knew about Russia's efforts to assist his campaign.
The accusation was that Trump colluded with Russia. How can collusion be proven without being able to prove he even knew about it?
Because Molly isn't even smart enough to understand she's moving the goalpost she also can't understand she proved herself wrong. It's bizarre people with this level of thinking ability never learn to shut up. How embarrassing it must be to go through life like this.
The collusion accusation regarding Trump personally was neither proved nor disproved. But it was confirmed that Russia did help the campaign and Russian agents were in communication with people in the Trump campaign.
The investigation was completely justified.
Lol
“In communication with” = asked for a meeting that the campaign ducked out of after 5 mins
The collusion accusation regarding Trump personally was neither proved nor disproved
Only in the sense that it is impossible to prove a negative.
But it was confirmed that Russia did help the campaign and Russian agents were in communication with people in the Trump campaign.
It was confirmed Russia spent about 115 thousand dollars on internet memes of all types, only ~84k of which was spent before the election. Meanwhile Hillary spent a billion which left wingers claim to believe was somehow overwhelmed by this pittance. Some of these memes were pro-Trump while others were pro-Hillary and still others had no political point whatsoever. All were incredibly juvenile, most inscrutable, and therefore even if seen by voters were exceedingly unlikely to have influenced even a single vote.
The most likely explanation is that Russia is always trying to cause trouble in America but there was no special program for this particular election. They simply could not have reasonably believed this pittance could impact the election. Had there been a specific program it would have been more professional since 2 4channers could have done 100 times better in 1 day's work. But in this case Dems also wanted to cause trouble in America to cover for Hillary Clinton. They made the accusation not because they believed it but rather simply because they believed it would help galvanize opposition especially among their activists in government.
Remember this all started because Hillary claimed to not be able to access all the email she illegally stored on an unsecure server and Trump publicly mocked her by saying we could get them from Putin. Hillary tried to turn this mockery into a whisper campaign but Dem operatives in the government didn't understand it was never supposed to be made official. So they operationalized it and proved what fools you all are.
How does one prove a negative retard tony?
We have more evidence of you being a china employee than Trump colluded with Russia.
You forgot the "un", ding dong. Steele dossier much? Give us all a TDS break.
This is very telling, and quite representative of how the Epstein obsessives operate: Poke holes in their claims, point out that they have no evidence of what they are stating, or invoke very basic principles relating to norms of due process, and they attack you as an enabler of pedophiles, a tool of Israel, or some other nefarious thing. They resort to ad hominem because they cannot defend their central thesis, which has collapsed under scrutiny.
Damn straight. The Dow is over 50,000 dollars! The S&P at almost 7,000, and the Nasdaq smashing records. That's what we should be talking about."
Poor baby, has no money to invest.
He refuses to invest it out of of fear a jew may touch it.
We have gotten into this outrage about "pedophilia" because colloquially that has came to mean sex with any underage person rather than the clinical meaning of sex with prepubescents. This is where the whole "language shifts" postmodernist sophistry comes back to bite you, as it muddies clear meaning in communication.
Yes, and add in a whole other dimension with the (poorly) hidden ephebophilia of the LGBTQLOLWTF Community.
What you said is correct. Men attracted to 15 yo are not pedos.
"We have gotten into this outrage about "pedophilia"
Epstein was charged with sex trafficking of minors. Why are you quibbling over the definition of pedophilia? Who or what does it serve?
Because "pedophilia" has a specific meaning which does not apply to what Epstein did, but has an extra dollop of revulsion because it involves small children.
Using that word badly is also how 19 year old gets accused of being a pedophile because his HS girlfriend is still 17.
Your take on this issue is that people are too revulsed? We should be cutting Epstein some slack because you assure us that he didn't abuse small children? I get the impulse to be contrarian. I look forward to your spirited defense of cannibalism.
As I recall the news at the time, because Epstein had been on a suicide watch, multiple things had to happen at the same time for him to kill himself without anyone noticing, which seemed improbable, at best.
But the central idea of the Epstein narrative—which prompted Congress to take the unprecedented step of releasing millions of pages of uncorroborated investigative documents—was that people other than Epstein were also guilty of very serious sex crimes and had gotten away with it.
I think it's more about how the powerful elite really run the world (corruptly) and the tiered justice system for us vs. the one for them.
I also question what documents in the DOJ were held back. And then there are the documents for the IC that are not part of the DOJ purview, and haven't been disclosed at all. And they won't be disclosed. If the CIA or other IC alphabet agencies were involved with Epstein, those documents will not be released. That doesn't prove that the deep state was involved with Epstein, but it also doesn't prove he wasn't.
I don't and have never believed Trump was screwing underage girls, as that ABSOLUTELY would have been weaponized against him before all the lawfare and/or assassination attempts (if the deep state was behind those). My (and quite a few others') theory is that the US government was involved with Epstein, likely to get blackmail material on prominent people (billionaires, titans of industry, politicians (both US and abroad), perhaps even celebrities). Trump, and probably any other President, isn't going to release that evidence that would paint the US as blackmailing the whole world, as they would believe the blowback from that would be catastrophic. But we don't have the evidence, and the evidence, if it exists, will never be released. There will be no closure on this topic.
I don’t agree with you, but it’s a very reasonable take.
Epstein was doing the one doing any blackmailing, not the US or Israel.
Most of this is about his appetites and love for cozying up to the rich and powerful for his own gain. Not pimping out teens to everyone who visited him.
And then there are the documents for the IC that are not part of the DOJ purview, and haven't been disclosed at all.
Likewise documents in Treasury/etc from the 1980's on where Epstein was maybe peripherally involved (Mafia stuff with Wexner, IranContra stuff with Khashhoggi, his Ponzi scheme where he got a pass, etc) but that could easily be seen differently in hindsight. That provide likely answers to how did this network - based mostly on money not pedophilia - get created by Epstein (basically a PSD nobody then)
The computer storage info of files seized from Epstein's computers during the 2007 and 2019 pedo investigation indicate that only 2% of files have been released.
I agree with all that, except I lean a little more towards he was working for Israel rather than the US, but potato/pahtahto.
I think it's more about how the powerful elite really run the world (corruptly) and the tiered justice system for us vs. the one for them.
yep
"(teenagers, not children)"
True, they are not children. In law they are infants, who are those under the age of legal majority. In Common Law, 21 years, now generally 18 years. They are held to be mentally immature and are therefore not able to enter contracts, take out bank loans, serve on juries, consume or sell alcohol etc. Not children, Bobby, infants.
Annnnd “Miscontrueman” takes on an even broader meaning
Please refer to me as mtrueman, I have no desire or need to refer to you as anything but But SkyNet is a Private Company.
Why are you quibbling over the definition of
pedophiliachildren? Who or what does it serve?"Why are you quibbling over the definition of pedophilia children? "
Because I thought it was both true and funny. True because the legal definition of a minor is an infant. Funny because the word infant, in plain language, connotes someone even younger than the word child, Sex with infants looks even worse than sex with children, and even Bobby would likely agree. The point remains. Sex with minors is illegal, whether you call them children, infants, teens or any other wording you think will mitigate the wicked nature of these crimes.
"For example, he was previously a major debunker of Russiagate, the theory that then-candidate Donald Trump had colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election from Hillary Clinton."
So Sullum doesn't like him.