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Police Abuse

The Second Shooting

Plus: Kristi Noem's transformation of DHS, Stanley Kubrick's Gigolo Joe, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 1.26.2026 9:30 AM

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A second shooting in Minneapolis: A U.S. citizen—a 37-year-old ICU nurse named Alex Pretti—was shot and killed by immigration agents in Minneapolis over the weekend.

Pretti's death has become a lightning rod for criticism of the excesses of the Trump administration. Pretti, whom federal government officials have tarred as a "would-be assassin" committing "domestic terrorism", was carrying a firearm (with a permit) at the time he was shot. He had no criminal record.

As "law enforcement officers were conducting a targeted operation in Minneapolis against an illegal alien wanted for violent assault, an individual approached US Border Patrol officers with a 9 mm semi-automatic handgun," the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) claimed in an official statement. "The officers attempted to disarm the suspect but the armed suspect violently resisted….Fearing for his life and the lives and safety of fellow officers, an agent fired defensive shots….The suspect also had 2 magazines and no ID—this looks like a situation where an individual wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement."

But Pretti never drew his weapon (even though the Department of Homeland Security's Kristi Noem says he was "brandishing" it). He appears to have been disarmed before he was shot. Simply carrying a firearm, plus two magazines, should not be regarded as an invitation to be killed in a country that deigns to protect Second Amendment rights. But shot he was.

It is possible that his gun accidentally discharged—it was a Sig Sauer P320, which has a history of doing that—but there's not much to suggest that happened. The video does not appear to indicate that, and it seems unlikely we'll get a full, reliable investigation. "Video footage of Pretti's death shows federal agents using pepper spray on protesters," writes Reason's Robby Soave. "Pretti appears to be recording the altercation with his cell phone. After an agent shoves one of the protesters to the ground, Pretti moves to assist her. Several CBP agents then decide to bring Pretti down. It's conceivable that the agent who shot Pretti had the impression that he was reaching for his weapon—though the first shot clearly went off after another agent disarmed the protester."

The administration has chosen a line and stuck with it. Pretti, in their telling, was a dangerous "assassin" trying to pick off law enforcement. Video of his encounter with immigration agents does not support this portrayal. As Reason's Jacob Sullum points out, "DHS again promises a thorough investigation of a fatal shooting after prejudging the outcome."

An assassin tried to murder federal agents and this is your response. https://t.co/4Gx5UPpc4X

— Stephen Miller (@StephenM) January 24, 2026

Interestingly, Trump—possibly attuned to quickly-tanking public opinion—seems like he might be willing to pull back from Minnesota. "I don't like any shooting. I don't like it," Trump told The Wall Street Journal. "But I don't like it when somebody goes into a protest and he's got a very powerful, fully loaded gun with two magazines loaded up with bullets also. That doesn't play good either."

"At some point we will leave," he added. "We've done, they've done a phenomenal job." He added that the officers' actions were under review.

The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?

It's not worth a single needless death like this to remove 1000 or even 10,000 illegal immigrants. https://t.co/xGt2nyOuLY

— Thomas Chatterton Williams (@thomaschattwill) January 25, 2026

And another question is raised by the reckless brutality on full display now. Are agencies like ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) doing what they claim? Are you safer now? Is your money well-spent? Is the government doing what it ought to be?

It seems like the thing that everyone is missing is that mass deportations are not happening. Nothing close.

— Dave Smith (@ComicDaveSmith) January 25, 2026

And, relevant to libertarians in particular: Are gun owners safe in Trump's America?

As rumors circulated that the administration would target Maine's Somali population, "I stopped carrying the 9-mm compact handgun—a Glock 19 equipped with a Holosun red dot—that I keep underneath my shirt most days, in full compliance with Maine's concealed-carry laws," writes Tyler Austin Harper in The Atlantic. "Although it is completely within my rights to carry concealed in my state…the past few weeks have made it apparent that ICE and Border Patrol don't put much store in the law or Constitution." What do we have left when our right to keep and bear arms is winnowed down to something unrecognizable, when our right to film agents of the state is conflated with domestic terrorism?


Scenes from New York: New series on "affording New York" featuring a family of five—the father is a super—who lives on $140,000 dollars a year in Manhattan's Morningside Heights. I am reminded, as I read this, that most of the so-called affordability crisis (housing perhaps exempted) is actually a crisis of budgeting and priorities; when you are legitimately middle-class, yet want to live in one of the priciest cities in the country, you must make tradeoffs that will sometimes feel painful, and you must continuously assess whether you still find those tradeoffs to be worthwhile. People have been doing this for centuries, yet there's a certain breed of champagne socialist that seems to believe that they shouldn't have to, that the state should smooth their way.


QUICK HITS

  • "In the year since Noem left her post as South Dakota's governor to lead the Department of Homeland Security, the agency has dramatically transformed in ways that are increasingly visible to the American public," reports The Washington Post. "Homeland Security's sprawling deportation campaign is a marked departure from the agency's focus after its founding in the aftermath of Sept. 11. The department was created to protect the nation against foreign terrorists and work closely with federal and local agencies. Under Noem's leadership, the agency has moved its focus to immigration enforcement—pulling and cutting resources from other operations, like the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to carry out the president's mass deportation campaign."
  • "China's top general, second only to Xi Jinping, the nation's leader, in the military command, has been put under investigation and accused of 'grave violations of discipline and the law,' the Ministry of National Defense said on Saturday, the most stunning escalation yet in Mr. Xi's purge of the People's Liberation Army elite," reports The New York Times. "The general, Zhang Youxia, is a vice chairman of the Central Military Commission, the Communist Party body that controls China's armed forces. Another member of the commission, Gen. Liu Zhenli, who leads the military's Joint Staff Department, is also under investigation, the Defense Ministry said. Its announcement did not say what either general was alleged to have done wrong." This is all part of Xi's intense escalation toward ensuring all top military officials are loyal to him and him alone.
  • "It was the summer of 1990 in Stanley Kubrick's kitchen and I'd just invented the sex robot Gigolo Joe," writes Ian Watson for Bloomberg.
  • How to understand Pope Leo and the Augustinian tradition.
  • Interesting:

???????????????? Geert Wilders, a major Trump ally, lost half his seats in the last election. This week his party lost another 7 MPs. They walked! Collapse in real time pic.twitter.com/7qyWdWNrUX

— Mariska den Eelden ???????????????? (@eeldenden) January 25, 2026

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    A U.S. citizen—a 37-year-old ICU nurse named Alex Pretti—was shot and killed by immigration agents in Minneapolis over the weekend.

    For those 2A enthusiasts among us, this one looks a little dodgy.

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

      Simply carrying a firearm, plus two magazines, should not be regarded as an invitation to be killed in a country that deigns to protect Second Amendment rights.

      Absolutely correct, but I will temper that a tad by saying responsible concealed carriers don't put themselves into this position, which it appears to me he did.

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      1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        For some of us, concealed carry of our range gun to a police action or civil unrest without our FOID, CCW permit would rightly be regarded as premeditation even if we had chose to defend ourselves.

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        1. Incunabulum   40 minutes ago

          The rest of us, of course, live in free states that don't require 'cards' at all;)

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      2. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

        Only the government has agency in Reeeason town.

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      3. HorseConch   2 hours ago

        This is where the majority of us will be. Although I enjoy the right to carry when out and about, I'm not putting myself in contact with law enforcement anywhere that I do. Whether within my rights or not, I'm not betting my life on that cop not harming me.

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      4. Longtobefree   42 minutes ago

        He was not legally carrying because he did not have his permit with him, which is a condition of the permit.

        Disclaimer: no one should need a permit for any right (supposedly) guaranteed by the US Constitution)

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    2. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

      Not the slightest bit dodgy. He armed himself in preparation for interfering with cops at a violent anti-cop protest and chose to resist arrest. The outcome was predictable.

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      1. Minadin   3 hours ago

        It's dodgy because it appears he may have been disarmed before he was shot.

        He still put himself in that position AND fought with federal officers while armed.

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        1. Ron   2 hours ago

          the further question is did the officer know teh gun had been removed. it seems the officer who got the gun didn't announce that he had control. thus a team failure of communication. was he shot needlessly yes but at teh same time he would be alive if he had not interfered which he did he got between the officer and the other person. Is ice guilty of murder I'd say no traggic death yes.
          And yes it is legal to carry a fire arm during a protest except in California which in my opinion is an infringement of a right.

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          1. Minadin   1 hour ago

            Based on the videos I've seen, it doesn't appear that the other officers knew that the gun was removed. It looks like they were each and all very surprised by the initial gunshot, which happened while other officers were yelling 'Gun! Gun!'

            They also wouldn't have known whether or not he only had one.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

              That, and the whistles being blown all over made it difficult to hear if the gun had been removed or not. I’d imagine that all the noise made it difficult to hear anything and added to the confusion in the incident. From my perspective, listening intently to the videos, it’s hard to make out what exactly was said over the whistle blowing. I did hear something about a gun followed by ten gunshots.

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              1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   26 minutes ago

                The whistles and shouting are loud. Pretti never goes to the ground and the officer that shoots first can't see his hands.

                Pretti should have gone flat. If I had to guess, the dipshit was trying to protect his phone which is why he didn't immediately sprawl out.

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        2. mamabug   37 minutes ago

          At this point, to me it looks like a tragic and avoidable death, but also a logical outcome of deliberately creating a chaotic situation by encouraging increasingly violent and obstructive behavior of protesters while simultaneously isolating federal law enforcement from any local support operations creating a 'siege' mindset. It's almost like somebody (or groups of somebodies) wanted this to happen. (end sarcasm)

          Seeing the footage from the last couple weeks, it also has me questioning all other 'government massacre of protestors' narratives I grew up with. For all I know, the Boston Massacre was a similar setup to throw an angry mob at stressed out soldiers with the hope of sparking a revolution.

          tl;dr - the folks that want chaos have now gotten exactly what they want. We are past bleeding Kansas and into the firing on Fort Sumter. Next couple years will be insane.

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      2. MollyGodiva   3 hours ago

        Resisting arrest is punishable by summary execution?

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        1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

          Fighting police while armed is extremely stupid. Even you should be able to understand that.

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          1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

            This x100. If I get pulled over at any time and I have a gun in my console, my ID and insurance card are on the dash when the cop gets to me and my hands are on the wheel. I'm giving that cop zero reason to worry about me because I don't trust any of them with my life.

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          2. damikesc   1 hour ago

            "Fighting police while armed is extremely stupid. Even you should be able to understand that."

            Don't overestimate Tony.

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          3. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   48 minutes ago

            No, he can’t.

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        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          Tell us about Babbit again Molly. She wasn't even armed.

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          1. MollyGodiva   3 hours ago

            Babbitt was a traitor who was about to attack Congresscritters. Had she not been shot J6 would have turned out much worse. An angry mob is far more dangerous then someone with a gun.

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

              Thanks again!

              The lefts true views ^^

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              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

                "My insurgency is speech, your speech is treason!"

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              2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

                The asswipe's true views ^^

                Fixed.
                (not you, E-b H S)

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            2. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

              Sullum +5

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              1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   47 minutes ago

                That’s harsh.

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            3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

              Walz +11. You keep burning out my Walz Retardometers.

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            4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

              Stupid cunt. You, not Ashli.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

                Hey now, Molly isn’t a stupid cunt.

                She’s a fully retarded cunt.

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            5. damikesc   1 hour ago

              "Babbitt was a traitor who was about to attack Congresscritters."

              There were exactly 0 Congresspeople anywhere near the confrontation. It was an execution, but you're OK with it.

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        3. Minadin   3 hours ago

          In your case, I'm leaning toward skipping the resisting part.

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        4. ML (now paying)   1 hour ago

          What about attempting to go through a door, unarmed, at the capitol? That's a headshot, right, Tony?

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      3. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

        Liz also left out (what happened to boaf sidez!) that Pretti was likely a memeber of ICE Watch, same as Good. And that this ICE Watch group was organized on signal by Democrat Minneapolis government employees.

        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/left-wing-activists-run-quasi-police-operation-signal-target-ice-agents-minneapolis

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          This is what shocks me the most about reason. They pushed the j6 insurrection narrative. They ignored the babbit narrative. They applauded Tarrio, who wasn't even there, getting 20 years. A 3 hour riot.

          Yet they continue to defend leftist riots while at the same time blaming trump for the violence. They ignore this violence being funded by foreign Marxist groups. They ignore democrats working directly with the groups.

          Why?

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

            Further, they pushed the BLM riots as 'mostly peaceful', the lying sacks of lefty shit.

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            1. damikesc   1 hour ago

              As I said in another post...they should just rename themselves "Alternet" and be done with the scam.

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      4. Heraclitus   4 minutes ago

        We do not know this. He may have been out for a coffee and came upon this scene. He was simply directing a little traffic and filming. Pretty innocuous stuff. The officers escalated this situation big time. Ammateurs. Should all be fired. Maybe they can be mall cops.

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      Dont fight with cops when armed. They even taught us this in our concealed carry class.

      Dont just ignore what pretti did. He violated basics of gun safety training.

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

        Honest question: Was he physically fighting with the cops? I saw a video claiming to be him trying to block the path of a (I guess) federal LEO vehicle, but I couldn't tell if it was him. I haven't seen other video beyond the actual shooting itself.

        Him being shot after being disarmed looks like a fuckup, but if he was actively interfering then he's not the innocent victim we're trying to make him out to be. If he was fighting with ICE then he was part of what made the scene chaotic, which is what led to the fuckup.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          Yes. He was physically resisting them. When they went to detain and disarm him after he put himself between them and someone they were attempting to detain he started fighting with them.

          He wasn't a passive observer.

          Video is in one of the weekend threads.

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        2. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

          He tried to help a protester the police had knocked down -- he interfered. When the police naturally knocked him down too, he fought back.

          One of the things "professional" non-violent agitators did back in the civil rights protest days was teach protesters to not resist. I read of training classes where they pushed students around, knocked them down, all to get them to learn to accept the violence instead of following their instinct to resist, even if not actually fighting back. It took some guts to go into a protest like that and not fight back, to make the cops be the ones who started the violence.

          Pretti was not one of those. He resisted and fought back and gave them the excuse they needed to get beatier. However wrong they were to shoot him, it is stupid to expect anything else when it turned out the violent protester who had been fighting them was armed. These are not situations which have hours or even minutes to understand. When violent protesters are attacking cops, throwing bricks and bottles, the cops are going to be on edge, and then it turns out one of them was stupid enough to fight cops while armed?

          Stupid, just plain stupid.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

            He tried to help a protester the police had knocked down -- he interfered. When the police naturally knocked him down too, he fought back.

            That is not the correct order of events. Stop lying.

            The cop in the beige hat first shoved one protester, then shoved Pretti, then shoved the protester with the orange backpack. That protester fell to the ground. Pretti tried to help her get back on her feet, and that is when the ICE agent dragged Pretti away from her.

            His "resistance" was trying to not get beaten to death as he was gang tackled by a bunch of officers.

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            1. ML (now paying)   1 hour ago

              ChatGPT, what is Jeff is doing here?

              1) Narrative reordering
              He asserts a specific sequence of events (“that is not the correct order”) to reframe causality, shifting blame away from Pretti and onto the officers.

              2) Moral reframing of “resistance”
              Jeff recasts resistance as self-defense (“trying to not get beaten to death”), redefining the same actions to neutralize culpability.

              3) Absolutist language to foreclose debate
              Phrases like “Stop lying” and “gang tackled” shut down uncertainty and signal that alternative interpretations are illegitimate.

              4) Victim amplification
              He escalates stakes with emotive phrasing (“beaten to death”) to heighten sympathy and justify the reframed account.

              5) Selective emphasis
              He highlights officer shoves and minimizes context about interference while armed, narrowing focus to details that support his conclusion.

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              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

                ML, do you think trying to cover your face so as not to get beaten constitutes "violent resistance"?

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                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

                  And you dare claim other people sealion?

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        3. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/videos-of-alex-pretti-shooting-by-federal-agents-in-minneapolis-contradict-trump-official-claims/ar-AA1UWCIW

          The woman in pink video I think shows the most. And it is getting harder to find.

          I would describe Pretti's actions as failing to follow lawful order, to get out of the street, the resisting arrest. I wouldn't say he attacked ICE.

          Had he stayed on the sidewalk and let ICE do their legally mandated (by multiple congresses and presidents) job he would be alive. ICE was wrong to shoot him, but his actions sealed his fate. But this what the marxists want to distract from the fraud and naked power grab with illegals in blue districts. This guy, like Good, was a brainwashed useful idiot. He was out there fighting the gestapo, and was surprised when the gestapo shot him after seeing his firearm.

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          1. Idaho-Bob   2 hours ago

            This is how I see the events as well.

            If Pretti was a MAGA member, the left would be saying he deserved what he got. They sure as hell wouldn't be defending the 2A.

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            1. HorseConch   2 hours ago

              I haven't seen anything that justifies the shooting. At the same time, he put himself in the situation and forced their hand, even if they were criminal in doing it. I've always respected law enforcement's ability to fuck me up whether legal or justified. You fight cops in court not in the street.

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              1. Idaho-Bob   59 minutes ago

                I haven't seen anything that justifies the shooting.

                This is where I find myself as well. I also didn't see a reason to kneel on GF for ten minutes either.

                That said, both (and include Goode) played very stupid games and won the ultimate prize.

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   52 minutes ago

                  If that is what you truly believe, then what is stopping you from calling it a murder, and criticizing the ICE officers who murdered him?

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                  1. Idaho-Bob   23 minutes ago

                    Floyd didn't die from being kneeled on. Junkie OD'd. Still didn't need to be kneeled on for 10 minutes. Doesn't make it murder.

                    Pretti was killed interfering with police. Not murder but not justified IMO.

                    Goode was killed in self-defense.

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    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

      Easy, it was a Marxists, therefore not a human.

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    5. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

      It is not dodgy at all. Carrying a weapon means assuming great responsibility. One of those responsibilities is not to get into a fight with the cops. If you are carrying a weapon and get into with the cops, you can't complain if they shoot you. What are they supposed to do, hope that the person who is attacking them doesn't shoot them? Play by the Marquise of Queensbury rules? This wasn't an unlawful shoot. This was a Darwin Award.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

        One of those responsibilities is not to get into a fight with the cops.

        Pretti didn't pick a fight with the cops. The cop first assaulted him.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

          Hey, Fatfuck, why don’t you try doing the same as Pretti did for the sake of scientific experiment? Put your fifty cents where your mouth is and go up there. I triple dog dare you.

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          1. Heraclitus   2 minutes ago

            Well said child. Want to sign up for a poster we are making? It will be called "Facsist".

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        2. ML (now paying)   1 hour ago

          What is Jeff is doing here?

          1) Redefining initiation
          He reframes the entire incident around who “started it,” asserting officer initiation to negate claims about responsibility while armed.

          2) Binary moral framing
          By declaring “the cop first assaulted him,” Jeff collapses a complex, fast-moving encounter into a single moral switch: innocent victim vs. culpable aggressor.

          3) Evasion of the core risk argument
          He sidesteps the broader point about heightened responsibility when armed and instead litigates first contact, avoiding the safety rationale entirely.

          4) Absolutist assertion
          The statement is presented as settled fact, not interpretation, foreclosing nuance or uncertainty about contested video and testimony.

          5) Outcome laundering
          By focusing on initiation, he implicitly absolves downstream decisions and consequences, regardless of escalation dynamics once a weapon is involved.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

            Oh good, here comes ML to post more ChatGPT nonsense in order to avoid substantive discussion.

            Tell us ML, do you think Pretti picked a fight with the cops?

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            1. Jefferson Paul   8 minutes ago

              I think ML's ChatGPT responses to you get under your skin so much because they completely expose your tactics.

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    6. Scott Free2016   2 hours ago

      I love the spin.

      We already know from his online profiles that he was a radical left wing trans activist. He was active amongst a group planning to intentionally interfere with law enforcement operations.

      Whether or not the order of events that lead up to his death justify him being shot, he's not some innocent bystander.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

        His state of mind is not relevent to his actions - Sullum

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      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 hours ago

        Yeah this. He was reportedly a card carrying member of ICE Watch. This group is not in the business of organizing peaceful protests. They specifically track agents involved in targeted arrests, in this case an illegal alien convicted of assault already a situation fraught with risk. As a "legal observer" he could have easily filmed the operation from 30 feet away, posted it online, and got a million clicks. Instead he chose to become directly involved in obstructing the operation. Incredibly he did not even bother to have his CC credentials with him. I carry my FOID every time I leave the house along with my driver's license. None of this is to say he deserved to be killed. It looks to me like an overreaction by a cop and a confluence of predictable events. Both sides are cranking out propaganda and neither can be trusted. But the big winners here are the ICE Watch agitators. This is the George Floyd moment they've been hoping for.

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        1. Longtobefree   39 minutes ago

          He wasn't carrying any cards - - - - - -

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      3. Heraclitus   18 seconds ago

        Good lord, out of the mouths of pedophiles and straight to your post. Do you wear knee pads at your ICE interview?

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    7. Riva   1 hour ago

      No whatever is happening in Minnesota “looks a little dodgy.” It is not a spontaneous public protest, it is more akin to an organized resistance/insurgency operation.
      https://x.com/Schwalm5132/status/2015470661490057540

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      1. ML (now paying)   1 hour ago

        When it's financed and the rioters are bussed from place to place, the backers are engaged in insurgency if anyone else is.

        Remember how Trump got dragged for saying "Go home in love and peace" before what was a pretty minor riot?

        And yet the Democrats are actively calling for violence here and nothing happens. The Republicans are ball-less clowns.

        Imagine if Trump had told J6ers to obstruct the Hill Police? What would have happened to him them?

        I often suspect that hypocrisy is the end unto itself, rather than the means for Democrats. It's what the Soviets used to do as a power move to demonstrate that they can do everything and you can do nothing.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

          And yet the Democrats are actively calling for violence here and nothing happens.

          Which elected Democrat has "actively called for violence"?

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          1. damikesc   1 hour ago

            Walz. Frey. Flanagan. Every single Congressional Democrat.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

              Is that so. Can you cite a quotation of them where you think they are "actively calling for violence"?

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   52 minutes ago

                Like this, Jeffy?

                https://x.com/gragedustin/status/1994814588127515106?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                Reminder that Tim Walz kept calling his political opponents Nazis and fascists even after surviving two assassination attempts.

                He openly fantasized about the President’s death when a rumor spread that he was ill, and he referred to law enforcement as his own personal Gestapo.

                Or this, with video of Walz?

                https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2011612654125858855?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                Or Frey here? Again with video of Frey.

                https://x.com/mjtruthultra/status/2011802180710289546?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey is pushing for a Civil War

                "We're in a position right now where we have residents that are asking police officers to fight ICE agents on the street, to stand by their ‘neighbors’."

                Look at the Police Chief’s face as soon as he said it... He better think long and hard about what he does next.

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   31 minutes ago

                  Calling someone a Nazi is not "actively calling for violence".
                  In that video, Walz is literally asking people to record ICE activity on their phones. This is completely legal and not "actively calling for violence".
                  In the video with Frey, he said that RESIDENTS are demanding that the local police fight ICE agents, but then later on in that same video, Frey says that we can't let that happen. Again not "actively calling for violence".

                  None of your examples involve elected Democrats "actively calling for violence". Because they haven't.

                  By and large, elected Democrats are center-left establishmentarians. They are not pushing violence in the streets.

                  There ARE some radicals pushing violence in the streets, but they are not elected Democrats.

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                  1. ML (now paying)   18 minutes ago

                    What is Jeff is doing here?

                    1) Narrowing the definition to escape the charge
                    He sharply constrains “actively calling for violence” to explicit, literal exhortations, excluding rhetoric, signaling, or encouragement that could plausibly escalate conflict.

                    2) Quote-lawyering
                    Jeff parses statements line-by-line to show they don’t meet his narrow standard, treating context, tone, and foreseeable effects as irrelevant.

                    3) Burden-shifting
                    He demands exact quotations as proof, then dismisses provided clips by redefining what counts as proof—raising the evidentiary bar mid-argument.

                    4) Reframing to procedural legality
                    By emphasizing that actions like filming are “legal,” he sidesteps the concern about rhetorical incitement versus legality.

                    5) Containment move
                    He isolates “radicals” from “elected Democrats” to firewall the party from responsibility, even when critics argue leaders’ rhetoric enables street-level escalation.

                    Bottom line
                    Jeff avoids the broader question of whether elite rhetoric predictably fuels violence—even if it stops short of explicit commands.

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                  2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   17 minutes ago

                    How about actively leading a Signal chat? Like this dipshit legislator?

                    https://x.com/erikac47/status/2015831626526105915?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    CURRENT Minnesota State Representative, Brad Tabke, is in charge of one of the sign-up sheets for “ICE Watch” on Sign Up Genius. You can see his name at the top as the creator.

                    Or are you going to move the goalposts yet again?

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                  3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   12 minutes ago

                    Oh, here’s another one, Jeffy, this time it’s the Lieutenant Governor who is also apparently on the Signal chats coordinating with Antifa. It even has video of her talking.

                    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2015504528796209275?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    Minnesota Lt Governor Peggy Flanagan instructed leftists to “put your bodies on the line” to protest Trump and ICE.

                    Now multiple people are dead for violently obstructing and interfering with ICE.

                    Democrats did this.

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                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   9 minutes ago

                      I also have little doubt anymore that she’s neck deep in the “resistance”.

                      With video of her.

                      https://x.com/0hour1/status/2015823628240040388?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                      Here is Peggy telling people about the SIGNAL MOB CHAT!

          2. ML (now paying)   25 minutes ago

            Here you go you weaselly fuck. And before you try to make a million excuses that it could be a misinterpretation of their words and explain them all away, remember what you considered was a call to violence by Trump for J6. And don't say you didn't, because I have the links.

            Kris Mayes, Arizona Attorney General: Stated under Arizona's "stand your ground" laws, residents could shoot masked ICE agents if they feel threatened, stating, "If someone is coming at you in a mask and you can't identify them, and you feel in danger, then yeah."

            Tim Walz: Compared ICE to the "modern-day Gestapo," saying masked agents jumping from unmarked vans represent "authoritarian actions," and noted, "If some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van with a mask on tried to grab me... you're gonna push back."

            Gavin Newsom: Labeled ICE as "secret police" that are "authoritarian," stating Californians have a "right to push back" against agents "jumping out of unmarked vans attacking people."

            Hakeem Jeffries: Urged people to "fight" the Trump administration "in the streets" and declared open season doxxing ICE agents who "will be unsuccessful" in hiding their own identities "no matter what it takes."

            Pramila Jayapal: Said stopping immigration enforcement is "inspiring," while accusing ICE agents of being kidnappers."

            LaMonica McIver: Incited supporters to "shut down the city" because "we are at war," and was charged with forcibly impeding federal officers during an ICE facility incident.

            Norma Torres: During ICE arrests, harassed agents telling the crowd that they need to "get the fuck out of LA."

            Bernie Sanders: Urged people to "figure out a way to stop ICE from what they are doing as soon as possible." This implying far more forceful intervention than anything Trump was accused of with J6.

            Eric Swalwell: Stated it was a "priority" to dox ICE agents. To target them to make sure they "are no longer faceless," comparing them to "1800s bank robbers or KGB officers."

            ad nauseum...

            Now, ICE isn't sticking people in ovens, or unlike you Jeff, advocating the policies and ideas of the Third Reich.
            They're doing exactly what they did under Reagan, the Bushes, Clinton, and Obama, but somehow now this makes them "Nazis" according to the Democrats.

            There's a good reason for this. As the saying goes "They don't kill you because you're a Nazi, they call you a Nazi so they can kill you."

            Here's a list of Dems doing just that:

            Stephen Lynch: Smeared ICE as "the Gestapo" and "nondescript thugs." in order to justify violence.

            Jasmine Crockett: Compared ICE to "slave patrols." Called for racialized resistance.

            Rashida Tlaib: Incited action against ICE as it is a "rogue agency" "terrorizing our communities" and "turning our country into a fascist police state."

            JB Pritzker: Compared ICE agents doing exactly what they did under Obama, to Nazi's for "grabbing people off the street and disappearing them." Inferred the rioters were like the French resistance.

            Brandon Johnson, Chicago Mayor: Labeled ICE as "secret police" "terrorizing our communities." Urged local defiance.

            Michelle Wu, Boston Mayor: Compared ICE agents to the neo-Nazi group NSC-131.

            Kamala Harris: Said ICE was "in the same category as the KKK."

            John Larson: Compared ICE to "the SS and the Gestapo."

            Delia Ramirez: Called ICE a "terror force" "intruding into our communities" and "separating our families."

            Max Frost: Accused ICE of "the worst horrors and crimes against humanity."

            Robin Kelly: Referred to ICE as "Gestapo" and a "betrayal."

            Dan Goldman: Called ICE "secret police" who "must be unmasked."

            ad nauseum...

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    8. Incunabulum   42 minutes ago

      It certainly does - and in other circumstances the government wouldn't be able to close ranks as effectively.

      But the Left has turned this shooting into a referendum on border control - the lines are drawn and no one can afford to admit a mistake was made.

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  2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

    Reason refuses to ever address the NAP violations of the left and their red guard. This was true during BLM as well. They continue to ignore those violations due to an inherent left leaning anti trump bias.

    We have the lefts secret police running down common citizens and demanding their papers.

    https://x.com/haileyywest/status/2015090151093837960

    We saw the same shit during the BLM riots where they took over entire portions of cities.

    We see numerous dem politicians fomenting the unrest and assisting the riots.

    https://redstate.com/jenvanlaar/2026/01/26/link-to-walzs-administration-in-anti-ice-signal-chats-n2198511

    Reason ignores it. Why?

    We see reason continue to push lies on all these interactions. The latest being an AI image of the headless ICE agent murdering someone.

    https://x.com/fred_guttenberg/status/2015521266287935501

    These are reasons favored classes having to lie to push their narratives despite reason claiming that narrative as right. Just like all the racist hoaxes they have to create.

    Never will reason address the violations of the NAP for their favored groups.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      We are literally seeing the lefts return to Maoist behaviors and the recreation of the Red Guard.

      Politicians using the masses to raise chaos and fear even against the average citizen.

      I find it extremely ironic that reason uses populism as a dirty word but theb at a minimum ignores and condone this creation of the lefts red guard. Did they not teach history to the Reason editors here?

      https://redstate.com/streiff/2026/01/25/the-anti-ice-demonstrations-look-more-like-maos-peoples-war-doctrine-than-civil-disturbances-n2198506

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      The new red guard is now going into hotels in riots as cops stand by.

      https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/2015631358664552851

      They are destroying cars and property.

      https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/2015635815854907595

      Then Waltz has the audacity to call in the national guard to feed this violent uprising.

      https://x.com/GrageDustin/status/2015530690389917824

      Reason, go read a fucking book. Youre literally how Mao took over china. Ignoring the violence of the indoctrinated masses, cowering and fear and defending them even as you claim to not agree with them.

      Shrike, sarc, jeff, and others are cheering for this leftist uprising after failing during covid. Dont be like those leftist shits.

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      1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        Youre literally how Mao took over china.

        "Two weeks" ago with "mostly peaceful".

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      Here is the lone BoP officer who was injured during the violent mob attack on the hotel, hand is dripping blood, asking where the PD was.

      https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/2015638140287889450

      As we know from above, they work for the politicians supporting the violent left.

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      1. mad.casual   2 hours ago

        "This officer is bleeding."
        ...
        "What is your message to the Mayor, The Protestors?"

        No comment.

        Standing there bleeding because of a "stochastic civil action" that continues to be ginned up and spread around by members of the press and you ask him for comment?

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      2. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

        I can only imagine how Reason would respond to right wing 'protesters' acting this way at a migrant hotel after yet another rape.

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  3. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

    I'm tired of this bullshit.

    Simply carrying a firearm, plus two magazines, should not be regarded as an invitation to be killed in a country that deigns to protect Second Amendment rights. But shot he was.

    He wasn't "simply" carrying a firearm. He intentionally carried a concealed weapon to a violent protest. He intentionally interfered with police dealing with a protester. He intentionally violently resisted arrest.

    He may not have intended to shoot cops. But if he was so stupid as to carry a concealed weapon while planning on interfering with and fighting with cops, then he got what he deserved. Sympathy for being stupid, but nothing else.

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   3 hours ago

      He intentionally interfered with police dealing with a protester.

      The entire situation was initiated when the officer pushed Pretti to the ground.

      There is zero evidence that he came there intentionally to start a fight or to shoot anyone.

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      1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

        No. He intentionally interfered with police who were dealing with a protester. Then he intentionally resisted police, which by definition is a violent process. He was not an innocent bystander who had the bad luck of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. He intentionally played stupid games (twice) with stupid people (your choice whether I mean police or protesters or both) at a stupid place (a violent anti-police protest) at a stupid time.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   3 hours ago

          He intentionally interfered with police who were dealing with a protester.

          No.

          https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/video/minneapolis-ice-shooting-alex-pretti-visual-analysis-digvid

          The officer assaulted Pretti. Not the other way around.

          Unless you are using the Greg Bovino definition of "interfere", which is apparently, "just showing up".

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            I’ve an experiment for you, fat stuff. Go to Minneapolis and join an Antifa group. Go with them and follow ICE around. Make sure you carry a pistol with extra magazines. Then get into a scuffle with them. See how fast you last with them and report back to us.

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            1. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

              Please God let him do this

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              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

                None of the coward leftists here will. They will just continue to live and screech in ignorance.

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            2. Super Scary   2 hours ago

              " join an Antifa group"

              Not possible, since they don't exist. And even if they did exist, they don't have membership cards.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

                Yet, they have Signal chat groups.

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                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

                  Not Mastodon?

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                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

                    Nope, not Mastodon. It even had reporters as part of the group.

                    https://x.com/0hour1/status/2015534687548998058?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    Why are Reuters reporters in that SIGNAL APP.

                    AP video journalist: https://x.com/jpdelco/status/2015538557595607335?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

                    NPR: https://x.com/anthonyjsisk/status/2015542080232173822?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

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          2. Stupid Government Tricks   3 hours ago

            The officer assaulted Pretti in response to Pretti interfering with the cops in how they dealt with a protester.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

              The officer assaulted Pretti in response to Pretti interfering with the cops in how they dealt with a protester.

              "how they dealt with a protester" - you mean, shoving to the ground the protester with the orange backpack? So just so we're clear, it is your contention that when Pretti tried to help her get back on her feet, that constituted "interfering" with a legitimate law enforcement purpose?

              Why did the officer shove those protesters to the ground in the first place? If he wanted to detain or arrest them all, then there was no need for the shoving.

              Maybe, that officer in the beige cap was acting OUTSIDE the realm of legitimate law enforcement tactics, was instead just acting like a common thug at that moment, and therefore doesn't get to claim "obstruction!" when he isn't pursuing a legitimate law enforcement aim.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

                You make a hell of a next-day armchair quarterback, Jeffy.

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                1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   12 minutes ago

                  Jeffy is a fool, unworthy of the attention.

                  When a cop shoves you out of the way, the only sane response is to get further away, hopefully exiting the scene before you get arrested. Pretti charged right back into the altercation.

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              2. ML (now paying)   13 minutes ago

                What Jeff is doing here

                1) Reframing lawful control as illegitimate force
                Jeff recasts standard crowd-control shoving during an active enforcement operation as unjustified “assault,” priming the reader to see police actions as inherently illegitimate.

                2) Redefining “interference” to excuse it
                He reframes Pretti’s physical involvement as benign “help,” while questioning whether that could ever count as interference, sidestepping the reality that inserting oneself into an arrest scene is routinely treated as obstruction.

                3) Motive imputation
                By asserting the officer was acting “like a common thug,” Jeff imputes bad faith without evidence, which conveniently nullifies any subsequent claim of lawful authority.

                4) Retroactive standard-setting
                He judges a fast-moving arrest by an idealized, after-the-fact standard (“no need for shoving”), ignoring how officers establish control in volatile protest environments.

                Bottom line
                Jeff isn’t analyzing protocol; he’s delegitimizing it. By declaring the initial use of force improper, he makes all downstream enforcement invalid by definition—turning a procedural dispute into a moral one he’s already decided.

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      2. Minadin   3 hours ago

        Oh, he was just standing around, minding his own business, when suddenly the officer, for no apparent reason, pushed him to the ground?

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          They will ways lie to themselves to justify their narratives.

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          1. Minadin   3 hours ago

            I don't mind them lying to themselves, it's when they try to pass off their bullshit as fact to the rest of us, that I get annoyed.

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

              Fair.

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        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

          Pretty much, yes actually. Watch the video I posted above. Go to the 1:20 mark. You tell me why the officer with the beige cap pushed those three protestors to the ground in the first place.

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          1. Idaho-Bob   2 hours ago

            Why is irrelevant. Pretti still interfered while armed.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

              The "why" is very much relevant, unless your standard is that cops get to push protesters around for any reason at all.

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              1. damikesc   59 minutes ago

                Well, you say they are allowed to murder for trespassing...

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   55 minutes ago

                  I say that officers are allowed to act in self-defense or in the defense of the lives and property of others, which is what Michael Byrd was doing when he shot Ashli Babbitt.

                  The officer who shoved the three protesters, then pepper-sprayed Pretti in the face and pulled him into a scuffle, how was that officer acting in self-defense?

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                  1. ML (now paying)   10 minutes ago

                    Ashly Babbit was unarmed you lying fuck. Byrd was firing blindly and almost hit the officers that were near her.

                    You just can't stop lying.

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              2. Idaho-Bob   52 minutes ago

                Define "protest" in the context of being within arms-length of cops arresting people. Now imagine it is regular street cops arresting someone and Pretti + pals pull the same shit. Getting pushed is the least of their problems.

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   43 minutes ago

                  Define "protest" in the context of being within arms-length of cops arresting people.

                  You understand that in the present case, the ICE officer *walked to the other side of the street* and initiated the incident by shoving protesters?

                  The officer lost his cool and picked a fight. When he does that, he loses any benefit of the doubt and should be treated as just another thug.

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                  1. Idaho-Bob   18 minutes ago

                    The officer lost his cool and picked a fight. When he does that, he loses any benefit of the doubt and should be treated as just another thug.

                    I did not see any evidence of the cop crossing the street to engage the agitators. I will not call them protesters.

                    If he indeed crossed the street to push the agitators, then my opinion may change.

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                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 minutes ago

                      https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/us/video/minneapolis-ice-shooting-alex-pretti-visual-analysis-digvid

                      Go to the 0:39 mark of the video. Note where the officer in the beige cap is, where the two women protesters are (including the one with the orange backpack), and where the white car is. The white car is on the opposite side of the street compared to where the officer is detaining someone.

                      Then go to the 1:20 mark of the video. The officer walks across the street, to just in front of the white car, where the three protesters have retreated. The officer in the beige cap then shoves the three protesters, including shoving the orange backpack lady to the ground.

                      There is no logical reason for the officer to have done that. It is because he lost his cool and picked a fight.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

              Pretti still interfered

              Please state precisely the nature of the interference that you are alleging here.

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              1. ML (now paying)   8 minutes ago

                What Jeff is doing here

                1) Forcing hyper-specificity to narrow the field
                Jeff demands a “precise” definition of interference, shifting the discussion from practical law-enforcement standards (any physical insertion into an arrest scene) to a courtroom-style parsing exercise. This narrows the debate to a level where common-sense definitions can be dismissed as “imprecise.”

                2) Creating a moving evidentiary bar
                By insisting on exact articulation, he raises the burden of proof in a casual forum while reserving the right to reject any answer that doesn’t meet an artificially high threshold he created. This is less about clarity and more about disqualifying responses.

                3) Implicitly redefining the term by omission
                He avoids offering his own definition, which lets him reject others’ explanations without committing to a standard of his own. The silence is strategic.

                Bottom line
                Jeff is not seeking clarification. He’s using procedural pedantry to stall, narrow, and ultimately dispute the ordinary meaning of “interference,” keeping the argument alive without conceding anything.

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    2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      He may not have intended to shoot cops.

      Stochastic martyr. Reason themselves has said this.

      Renee Good didn't intend to get shot either. These people are cosplaying.

      You don't "simply concealed carry" into a protest in Iran and hope to rally support. You don't "simply concealed carry" onto a battlefield in Ukraine and hope to rally support. You don't "simply concealed carry" to a music festival in Israel and hope to rally support.

      They can't gather foreign nationals and set ambushes, which would actually resist tyranny, because then the jig would be up. So this is how they control the narrative, Red Guard-style.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

        When you live in a police state, the thugs with badges are just as much of a threat as the thugs without badges. The right of self defense applies in both cases.

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        1. Minadin   1 hour ago

          I have exactly ZERO worries about ICE coming after me with violence. None whatsoever.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

            Yeah I know. Because you're white. And you apparently don't stand up for the rights of others, only your own.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   51 minutes ago

              Fuck you, racist.

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            2. Idaho-Bob   48 minutes ago

              Fuck off with the racist shit. We don't worry about ICE because we are not illegals and we don't harass police doing their jobs. Pretti Goode assessment, isn't it?

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              1. chemjeff radical individualist   21 minutes ago

                Yes we know, "you have nothing to hide"

                we don't harass police doing their jobs

                You give automatic deference to authority. I think that makes you an authoritarian.

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            3. Minadin   39 minutes ago

              I'm Mexican-American on my dad's side. Many of my family are immigrants. Thanks.

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              1. chemjeff radical individualist   22 minutes ago

                Well in that case, you are stupid. ICE is actively racially profiling. You live in St. Louis, right? When they launch their massive operation in St. Louis, then you will find out.

                This guy probably didn't think he was in any danger either.

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc_d6O2C4pk

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                1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   5 minutes ago

                  That video? The one that shows someone interfering with an ICE officer getting arrested? Not a hint of profiling in that video.

                  You really are the worst.

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    3. Murray Rothtard   9 minutes ago

      There has been a whole lot talk here about how stupid this guy was and how anyone who actually uses their constitutional rights under duress deserves to be killed.

      You all have a great point. You are expressing a sad but true version of reality in America right now, and I'll be saying similar things to my children, as these are all great pieces of advice for not getting shot by federal agents.

      But that level of awareness of reality and handing out good advice is seperate from if we WANT this to be our reality. It is good that exercising your 2nd amendment rights at a protest will likely get you killed? Is that how we'd like America to work going forward?

      It's like if there were a ton of rapists in my neighborhood. I'd certainly tell my daughter not to dress like that, or go out alone at night. But i'd ALSO try to get the rapists out of my neighborhood so that she COULD have the freedom to wear a skirt and have a nightlife safely.

      It's smart to prepare accordingly for dangerous realities. It's completely fucking asinine to celebrate and entrench those tragic realities. Let's make America free again.

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  4. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?

    That dipshit governor and moronic mayor are giving Trump supports all the cover they need by egging on the riots. Sacrificing the useful idiots for political purposes is 80% of the problem there.

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    1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      The fact that this continues to run cover for Tim Walz in his own back yard and, more critically, push a/the narrative for his successor is astounding.

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  5. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    It's not worth a single needless death like this to remove 1000 or even 10,000 illegal immigrants.

    Everyone has agency until it's inconvenient to a narrative.

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    1. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      Everyone has agency until it's inconvenient to a narrative.

      Media Assistance in Dying.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

      How many needless deaths should we allow the illegals?

      She also leaves out the illegal Pretti was obstructing from justice was wanted for violent assult with intent to kill. But I guess that is different.

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 hours ago

        the illegal Pretti was obstructing from justice was wanted for violent assult with intent to kill

        And that illegal has friends and family. The ICE agents would be foolish not to expect armed resistance and be primed to react to it.

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

        Pretti did not obstruct the officer from detaining the person he was stopping. The officer instead went out of his way to walk to the other side of the street and shove those three protesters to the ground. Why did the officer do that?

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    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

      OK, then. If anyone might get a booboo then we have to stop enforcing all laws.

      WTF?

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  6. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

    A deep look into Olhan Omar's husband's businesses finds a lot of know fraud similar to Hunters.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/meet-longtime-biz-partner-ilhan-omars-husband-questions-swirl-skyrocketing-net-worth

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

      What? Is he a genius business consultant and world class painter?

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  7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

    Canada's MAID no longer requires consent and even ignores a woman's declining suicide.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2026/01/too-fast-too-soon-canadas-medically-assisted-suicide-cases-reveal-potential-coercion-rushed-decisions/

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    1. Minadin   3 hours ago

      If you medically assist someone in dying without consent - how is that differentiated from murder exactly?

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      1. Idaho-Bob   2 hours ago

        It isn't. Ask Kevorkian why he went to prison.

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  8. chemjeff radical individualist   3 hours ago

    So since this is a very bad news cycle for Team Red, I fully expect the usual suspects around here to try to flood the zone with old stories about idiots on the left behaving badly. Maybe we'll hear about some two-year-old story about a trans activist doing something dumb. Maybe we'll hear about some idiot from Davos saying we should all eat bugs. I don't know. But they are going to try to change the subject as forcefully as they can because they are very obviously in the wrong in trying to defend the murder of Alex Pretti.

    Here is an interview on CNN of Greg Bovino by Dana Bash. It is illuminating as to the depths of lies and misinformation that these cretins will sink to.

    https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/25/politics/video/bovino-dana-bash-full-interview-digvid

    Bash asks Bovino over and over again about the evidence that Pretti was "brandishing" a gun. He refuses to state the plain truth - no, he was not.

    Bash asks Bovino over and over again about evidence that Pretti was the one assaulting law enforcement officers. He refuses to state the plain truth that no, Pretti didn't initiate an assault on anyone, it was the ICE agent who assaulted him.

    Bash then asks Bovino about any evidence for the claim that Pretti intended to "massacre" law enforcement officers. And here's where it gets really insightful: Bovino's response is, essentially, that his intentions were bad because he decided to show up in the first place and "inject himself" into the situation. Just filming and observing is equivalent to "impeding" and also means that you have bad motives and wish harm on the officers.

    The MAGA line on this is pretty clear:

    Trust law enforcement implicitly.
    Questioning the methods or tactics of law enforcement is a sign of disloyalty and bad motives.
    Showing up to observe law enforcement is technically legal, but hey, you're risking death if you do that, because it's completely subjective on the part of the officer when "observing" turns into "impeding", and then the officer gets free license to beat your ass.

    Comply or die.

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    1. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

      You need to prove your point. Go and get a gun and wave it at federal law enforcement. Use your 2nd Amendment Right. Don't take this lying down Jeff. Go get that AR-15 and defend your nation. Just go out and make your stand!!

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        I might actually pay to see that.

        Got popcorn?

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 hours ago

        Do you acknowledge that Alex Pretti didn't wave his gun at anyone?

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        1. Sun Wukong   2 hours ago

          He just assaulted the police. They were supposed to wait and see if anyone got shot before doing anything. Whatever.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

            He just assaulted the police.

            False. The police assaulted him.

            Do you acknowledge that Alex Pretti didn't wave his gun at anyone? It's a pretty easy question to answer. Why not answer it truthfully?

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        2. Idaho-Bob   2 hours ago

          Do you acknowledge he was fighting with armed federal agents engaged in enforcing federal law?

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

            If by "fighting" you mean "trying to protect himself so he wouldn't be beaten to death", then yes.

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            1. Idaho-Bob   12 minutes ago

              ICE Watch member just trying to protect himself while drinking his latte, huh?

              Are you now going to tell me that ICE arrested the 5-year-old with the cute little hat? Ignoring that both parents abandoned him?

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    2. Minadin   3 hours ago

      In related news:

      A$AP Rocky’s ‘Don’t Be Dumb’ Debuts at No. 1 on Billboard 200

      https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/asap-rocky-dont-be-dumb-number-one-billboard-200-chart-1236162371/

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  9. Mike Parsons   3 hours ago

    I think progressive militants all need to have Obama and Clinton's speeches on illegal immigration played on repeat.

    Then they need to see Obamas kids in cages, and be reminded of their silence until Trump took office and did the same

    Then they need to see Obamas ICE numbers, and be reminded of their silence until Trump took office.

    Its almost like they are just being whipped up as shock troops for the media and DNC because orange man bad

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   3 hours ago

      Who gave Obama the epithet of "deporter-in-chief"? Was it Republicans?

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      1. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

        And who would have reelected him for the rest of time if they could have? Standards only matter when they justify voting Democrat. Fuck off.

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  10. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    Under Noem's leadership, the agency has moved its focus to immigration enforcement—pulling and cutting resources from other operations, like the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to carry out the president's mass deportation campaign.

    Shifting a federal agency's focus based on a new administration's priorities? Well, I never!

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

      Hopefully the next administration will bring federal resources back to the Founders' intent: DEI.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

        Well, that and comprehensive wealth redistribution to achieve material fairness.

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    2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      With cuts to FEMA, who will ignore red counties in coastal states during the next hurricane/election season?

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    3. Moonrocks   2 hours ago

      It's not like FEMA was doing a whole lot with their funding, anyway.

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  11. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

    Suicidal empathy foe the west is a main strategy of Marxists. See jeff, sarc, and shrike.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/suicidal-empathy-another-front-ccps-hybrid-war

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  12. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

    The real insurrection. Treat Minneapolis like Atlanta during the Civil War

    Fact Check: Peggy Flanagan, Anita Smithson, and others in anti-ICE Signal group in Minneapolis?
    https://news.meaww.com/fact-check-peggy-flanagan-anita-smithson-and-others-in-anti-ice-signal-group-in-minneapolis

    At least two Democrat Minnesota state officials and a campaign adviser to Tim Walz, Amanda Koehler, have been identified as “admins” and “dispatchers” in a now-leaked Signal group chat used to stalk and impede federal immigration operations in the state.

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

      Minnesota National Guard hands out donuts, coffee to protesters in Minneapolis
      https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/video/minnesota-national-guard-hands-out-donuts-coffee-to-protesters-in-minneapolis/

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      1. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

        The left has people on the inside tracking their political opponents.

        Sorry Twin Cities, You're Being Tracked Everywhere You Go
        https://twincities.citycast.fm/podcasts/sorry-twin-cities-youre-being-tracked-everywhere-you-go

        According to crowdsourced data on the website Deflock.me, there are over 300 Automated License Plate Reader (ALPR) cameras in the metro area. Most of these are made by a company called Flock Safety, and they allow law enforcement to use photos of license plates to track drivers every time they pass by one of these cameras. The legality of ALPRs continues to be fought over in our courts, so we're revisiting a conversation from earlier this year with ACLU Minnesota Attorney Alicia Granse about what these cameras are doing in our cities and how they could be regulated ethically.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          All funded by Marxist foreigners to boot as being tracked by Data Republican.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

            Looks like DR finished her work.

            https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/2015620564787105892

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

              It’s big, and it’s deep. And it extends outside the US.

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              1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

                And nothing happened....

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                1. Idaho-Bob   1 hour ago

                  Yet. This is a clear signal (pun intended) that the government is the enemy of the people.

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                2. HorseConch   40 minutes ago

                  ...nor will it.

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  13. Mike Parsons   3 hours ago

    Weird that the US citizen that got nuked from orbit extrajudicially by O never got any tears, but retarded lesbians who park their cars and then ram law enforcement cause a nationwide tantrum.

    Its almost like there is a wild double standard of coverage and outrage that favor the DNC based on a massive media ecosystem made to do so

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  14. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

    And another question is raised by the reckless brutality on full display now. Are agencies like ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) doing what they claim? Are you safer now? Is your money well-spent? Is the government doing what it ought to be?

    This is the type of shit we saw during trumps first term. The left resists with violence and reason blames trump doe the lefts actions.

    There are literally 40 states without this violence. The violence is all initiated from the left.

    For a rag that decried a J6 Insurrection, you seem to ignore an actual one.

    Politicians and activists fomenting violence to get what they want. Back to the old KKK days.

    Reason, what side are you going to choose?

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      By the way... Dave Smith interviewed nick Fuentes. It was pretty amiable and friendly. Thiught Dave Smith had to be shunned like you claim with others who interviewed him. Like Tucker Carlson. You want to look consistent right?

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

        Of course it was amicable. Both hate the jews.

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    2. damikesc   55 minutes ago

      Hell, there 3,153 counties without the violence. 9 counties are 2/3 of ALL the assaults on federal employees. 9 fucking counties.

      Yup, it's ICE who is the problem.

      Liz is just ENB without the hooker fetishization...yet.

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  15. tracerv   3 hours ago

    "The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?"

    Get fucked Liz.

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    1. Mickey Rat   3 hours ago

      It raises hard questions for the pro-open borders supporters of how many sacrifices they need to their cause? Exploiting these deaths to stop enforcement of immigration law is gross.

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      1. tracerv   2 hours ago

        Infinity martyrs. It seems dying for the "cause" is all these people have. Doesn't really matter what. Black lives, illegal lives, rapist lives. The religion is endless.

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        1. damikesc   54 minutes ago

          The Left loves their useful idiots.

          Never thought I'd see "libertarians"' lining up to be amongst those idiots, but that is where we are.

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          1. tracerv   14 minutes ago

            Yep. Dave Smith. White courtesy phone.

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  16. Mickey Rat   3 hours ago

    "As rumors circulated that the administration would target Maine's Somali population, "I stopped carrying the 9-mm compact handgun—a Glock 19 equipped with a Holosun red dot—that I keep underneath my shirt most days, in full compliance with Maine's concealed-carry laws," writes Tyler Austin Harper in The Atlantic. "Although it is completely within my rights to carry concealed in my state…the past few weeks have made it apparent that ICE and Border Patrol don't put much store in the law or Constitution.""

    A few things here:
    - What does this guy deciding to not carry a gun have to do with Somalis?
    - The Atlantic is now pushing 2nd Amendment Rights? This is the magazine whose staff felt "unsafe" about Kevin D. Williamson working remotely, several states away from the magazine's offices.
    - Well, if you are not confronting ICE and not an illegal alien, I do not think is going to bother you.

    Also, Dave Smith is something of a midwit.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      There was some large hilarity when Newsome came our decrying 2a eights even though he signed a bill banning carry during protests.

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  17. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

    Labour opens door to ‘Stalinist’ 15-minute cities across Britain
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/labour-opens-door-stalinist-15-180555760.html

    The most high-profile example of such a plan is in Oxford, where the council put forward proposals to divide the city into six “15-minute neighbourhoods”.

    Under the scheme, drivers would need a residents’ permit that allows 100 days of free travel per year through six traffic filters during operating hours.

    Meanwhile, a separate permit allows 25 days of free travel per year through six congestion charge locations during charging hours, and after this, drivers face fines if they travel without the relevant permission.

    Greg Smith, shadow transport minister, said: “This is the blueprint for a national rollout. Labour has given the green light for draconian councils like Oxfordshire to police how people live, move and drive, using cameras and fines backed by DVLA data.

    “Oxford is the test case, but this is Labour’s blueprint for the country.”

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

      Met Police bans 'Walk With Jesus' march to avoid provoking local Muslim community
      https://www.gbnews.com/news/london-news-met-police-bans-ukip-march-muslim-community-whitechapel-tower-hamlets
      Scotland Yard has stopped a Ukip march from going ahead in east London over fears of provoking the local Muslim community.

      The demonstration, titled "Walk With Jesus", was scheduled for January 31 in Whitechapel - long home to one of Britain's largest Islamic populations.

      Metropolitan Police officials said permitting the event in that location would be "reckless" given the potential for violence.

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      1. Jerry B.   3 hours ago

        “Metropolitan Police officials said permitting the event in that location would be "reckless" given the potential for violence”

        But they don’t mention who will get violent.

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      2. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

        But they allow the rape with mohammad marches!!!

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

          "Our sexual assault of children is speech, your speech about sexual assault is rape!"

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    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

      Hey, if superior academic intellectuals can't tell us how to live who can?

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    3. mad.casual   49 minutes ago

      Meanwhile, a separate permit allows 25 days of free travel per year through six congestion charge locations during charging hours, and after this, drivers face fines if they travel without the relevant permission.

      I'm sure we'll get an article from Reason "Congestion Pricing" Magazine about the databases and "Papers, Please!" checkpointing that this policy assumes as foregone conclusion.

      Presumably, immigrants wouldn't be subject to the confines of such oppressive imaginary social constructs. Or, even the native people traveling just outside their own 15 min city on an off day will become illegal... again in their own city... or outside their own suburb or burrow for the more urbane among us.

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  18. Fist of Etiquette   3 hours ago

    This is all part of Xi's intense escalation toward ensuring all top military officials are loyal to him and him alone.

    Commies gonna purge.

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    1. JFree   2 hours ago

      Good thing none of those Chinese officials had DEI accusations leveled against them and weren't teaching critical race theory.

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 hours ago

        What the fuck is wrong with you? You want to compare the Trump admin to the most murderous party in the history of the world? The unbroken rule of the CCP has been responsible for over 100 million deaths in the last 75 years.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

          Hey, don't you know that every time Trump speaks or appears in public, millions of progressive snowflakes die?

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  19. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

    Antifa Signal chats possibly led by the Lieutenant Governor. Yes, this shit goes all the way up.

    https://x.com/datarepublican/status/2015620564787105892?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    BREAKING: SIGNALGATE DONORS LIST AVAILABLE FOR DOWNLOAD; POLITICIANS + FOREIGN LEADERSHIP CONFIRMED?

    In one of the files revealed by @camhigby , a resources file directs people with money to a website, Stand with Minnesota, which in turns directs donors to a campaign ran by Tending the Soil on Chuffed.

    More about Tending the Soil later. What to know: the campaign is hosted by Chuffed and the first donation came from Jonny Soppotiuk, a Canada-based community organizer who is part of Chuffed leadership and specializes in fundraising. He is most likely a central figure in raising money.

    So, yeah. Starting to look like foreigners are playing a key role in all of this.

    That's not all. I've put together a spreadsheet of 4000+ donors and their possible identities.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      And the chat:

      https://x.com/camhigby/status/2015093523733733474?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

      MINNEAPOLIS SIGNAL INFILTRATED

      I have infiltrated organizational signal groups all around Minneapolis with the sole intention of tracking down federal agents and impeding/assaulting/and obstructing them.

      BUCKLE UP ALL WILL BE REVEALED

      Each area of the city has a signal or several signals. Let’s start with a screen recording of all members of the south side group to start.

      There’s a lot to digest here. Take your time and read it all.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

        And the Signal chat is back up again.

        https://x.com/camhigby/status/2015807311399338064?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

        SIGNAL GATE: NEW NETWORK:

        The insurrectionists signal network is back up and running at about half strength. Here’s a handy dandy handbook instructing you on how to join said network.

        Stay tuned. More signal gate drops coming. Make sure to follow.

        Have fun infiltrating them: https://x.com/datarepublican/status/2015818379656143160?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

      And nothing happened.....

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        That’s the part that’s pissing me (and many others) off. It’s long past time to arrest Walz, Flanagan, Frey, Ellison, and others.

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        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

          Can't arrest. Federal judges in their district won't allow it. And activists on grand juries won't indict. Dems are running the same playbook they did when they ran the south.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

            Then we need tribunals. Which, if I’m not mistaken, means the Insurrection Act must be invoked.

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  20. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

    Oregon sees increase in lethal suicide prescriptions; many patients unaccounted for
    Nearly a third of all patients who were prescribed lethal drugs last year in Oregon are unaccounted for.
    https://www.ewtnnews.com/world/us/oregon-sees-increase-in-lethal-suicide-prescriptions-many-patients-unaccounted-for?redirectedfrom=cna

    However, nearly a third of all patients who were prescribed lethal drugs last year in Oregon are unaccounted for, as their “ingestion status” is listed by the health authority as “unknown.”

    According to the report, of the 607 patients for whom prescriptions were written during 2024, 333 (55%) died from ingesting the medication, with time from ingestion until death ranging from seven minutes to 26 hours, with a median time of 53 minutes.

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

      Canadian woman was euthanized 'against her will' after husband was fed-up with caring for her
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15489605/canadian-woman-euthanized-ontario-maid.html
      An elderly woman was euthanized within hours of her husband claiming she changed her mind after insisting she wanted to live.

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      1. Mickey Rat   3 hours ago

        You have to accept this happening so that the Jeremy Boal's of the world can feel better about their conditions.

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        1. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

          I wonder if there is any "disparate impact" in how the benefits of being put to death by the state, for your own good, are being distributed.

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      2. mad.casual   2 hours ago

        Canadian woman was euthanized 'against her will' after husband was fed-up with caring for her

        What good is the patriarchal construct of marriage if you're not gonna use it? We agreed-to-disagree about "till death do us part" for 40-50 yrs. and now we agree. [tilts arms, crosses arms]

        If a man can't euthanize his wife the way she can euthanize her unborn clumps of cells, who can he euthanize?

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        1. Eeyore   2 hours ago

          They were both unwanted clumps.

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      3. Eeyore   2 hours ago

        It's an age old method of getting a divorce.

        King Henry VIII approves.

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    2. Mickey Rat   3 hours ago

      So can the lethal suicide prescriptions be used for capital punishment? Because one would think these method's would not be used if they were not merciful.

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    3. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

      Of all the retarded things Libertarians advocate for, assisted suicide might be the most retarded. The same people who claim you can never trust the government, turn right around and trust the government not to coerce people into suicide.

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      1. mad.casual   2 hours ago

        The same people who claim you can never trust the government

        Through between no less than 1 and 2 trials before appeals with multiple judges, attorneys, juries, and expert witnesses.

        Hair samples with a single dog hair are a sign the government fucked up and killed an innocent person, but two doctors who, two weeks ago were all "100% safe and effective" and "a girl born with a penis is a girl" and have, for decades, been known to prescribe treatments they themselves would not undergo, nodding in assent to each other guarantees nobody was intentionally killed under the wrong circumstances.

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    4. Eeyore   2 hours ago

      I would guess that some of those doses were used to commit murders in other states.

      26 hours? WTF?

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  21. Weigel's Cock Ring   3 hours ago

    It's time, Mr. President. It's time for you to go ahead and invoke the Insurrection Act and get the communist filth in this country under control. And if they want to continue to martyr themselves for these putzes like Tim Walz and the Somali thieves, by all means keep killing them, the fewer of them, the better.

    And while you're at it, you may want to look into going after their funders as well. Your people know exactly who they are.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

      Applying my version of the Golden Rule (treat people like they treat you), what do we think Comrade President Harris would do to right wing protesters violently confronting her federal DEI agency enforcers?

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  22. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

    I Let My Wife Have an Affair. Do I Have to Console Her Now That It’s Over?
    https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/magazine/wife-affair-ethics.html

    By Kwame Anthony Appiah
    Kwame Anthony Appiah has been The New York Times Magazine’s Ethicist columnist since 2015 and teaches philosophy at N.Y.U.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      Cucks all the way down.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

        Does a lack of testicles make transitioning easier?

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      2. mad.casual   1 hour ago

        And levels within levels of stupid BDSM cosplay cuckoldry.

        Not "My wife and I tried swinging." or "My wife and I tried opening up our marriage." or "My wife and I separated and she had an affair.", but "I let my wife have an affair." *followed by* "Dear Internet, I need other adult-aged children to tell me how to deal with this."

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  23. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

    MN broke out in rioting and insurrection, backed by local authorities, right after we found out that billions of tax dollars were being stolen there.... with the help of local authorities.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      And reason will ignore the billions in fraud, ignore the leftist violence, and blame trump (including becoming less than mediocre liz), all to give the left what it wants.

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      1. Ra's al Gore   3 hours ago

        Thank god for the riots, otherwise Reason might have to cover the fraud.

        Anyone wonder what Reason will say when a packed Supreme Court legalized abortion up until the fetus is old enough to vote and red states start 'resisting' Federal authority?

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        1. Moonrocks   2 hours ago

          Thank god for the riots, otherwise Reason might have to cover the fraud.

          You know they wouldn't.

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        2. damikesc   50 minutes ago

          We remember their outrage over anybody being near the Capitol on 1/6 being tracked down and arrested as opposed to their outrage over, say, CHOP/CHAZ, BLM riots, etc.

          They are a more poorly written DemocratUnderground.

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  24. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 hours ago

    Can we now just hate everyone?

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    1. tracerv   2 hours ago

      Murtaugh "God hates me, that's what it is. "

      Riggs "Hate him back; it works for me".

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

        Murtaugh: “I’m getting too old for this shit.”

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  25. jonnysage   3 hours ago

    Everything that happened before and after the guy interfered with and resisted police is mostly irrelevant. If everyone stops doing that, none of this happens.

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  26. Use the Schwartz   3 hours ago

    "I stopped carrying the 9-mm compact handgun—a Glock 19 equipped with a Holosun red dot—that I keep underneath my shirt most days, in full compliance with Maine's concealed-carry laws," writes Tyler Austin Harper in The Atlantic.

    I CCW every day, and I won't stop. I also refrain from interfering with the police.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   60 minutes ago

      Oh. Look ar mr basic responsibility over here.

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  27. MollyGodiva   3 hours ago

    Despite what the MAGAs are trying to gaslight people into believing, the video is clear. He did nothing wrong, was not brandishing a gun, and did not resist arrest. He tried to help the woman and was immediately attacked and beaten by six ICE thugs. He was never given any opportunity to submit to arrest. His gun was removed and then he was shot.

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    1. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

      He just got tried to stop the cops from arresting someone and then got into a fight with them. Other than that, he did nothing wrong. I think you and Jeff need to get out on the front lines and assert your 2nd Amendment Rights. Get out there and show those feds who is boss. Come on man.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

        None of them have taken me up on recreating the Good shooting. I will even let them be the ICE agent.

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

        He just got tried to stop the cops from arresting someone

        You are referring to the woman with the orange backpack? The officer wasn't even trying to arrest her, he just shoved her to the ground. It wasn't an attempt at an arrest, it was an assault. When the officer acts like a thug, the privileges of the badge go away (or at least they should).

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      Molly, you too are welcome to attempt the experiment I have Jeffy above:

      Go to Minneapolis and join an Antifa group. Go with them and follow ICE around. Make sure you carry a pistol with extra magazines. Then get into a scuffle with them. See how fast you last with them and report back to us.

      I triple dog dare you.

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      1. MollyGodiva   2 hours ago

        When ICE comes to my community I will join the protests, armed. But with my AR. Open carry rifles is legal where I am.

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        1. Use the Schwartz   2 hours ago

          You missed "of" ChinaGodiva.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

          That might be amusing to watch, Dr. Retard, as it might just be the most retarded thing you’ve ever done.

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          1. MollyGodiva   2 hours ago

            Quite possibly, but there is much competition for that title.

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            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

              Nearly all of which from you, asswipe.

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            2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

              Sweetie, you take the crown easily. Even Shrike isn’t quite this retarded.

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              1. MollyGodiva   1 hour ago

                I meant that bringing an AR to an ICE protest would not be the dumbest thing I have done.

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                1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   58 minutes ago

                  Being a loyal paid ccp is probably worse.

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        3. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

          They are in all 50 states. What is stopping you?

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        4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

          Please do. And when the federal agents ask you to drop your weapon, please aim it at them.

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    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 hour ago

      "Despite what the MAGAs are trying to gaslight people into believing, the video is clear."

      Regardless of your lies, it is indeed. He fought LEOs and died as a result. We sincerely hope you do the same, asswipe.

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  28. Mickey Rat   3 hours ago

    The photo of the shooting in the Patrick Skinner X post is apparently AI generated. If so, then it is not an accurate depiction of what happened, and Skinner's commentary in the original post and Thomas Chatterton Williams' comment in the repost are bullshit.

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  29. Sun Wukong   3 hours ago

    If you die protesting ICE, do you get 72 trans women in heaven? Just asking for friend.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

      That’s a whole bag of ladydicks.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   56 minutes ago

        Sign sarc and molly up!

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    2. Longtobefree   32 minutes ago

      No,

      Next question?

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  30. Use the Schwartz   3 hours ago

    How many people have to die so we can have cheap labor?

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    1. Mickey Rat   3 hours ago

      And Democrat votes. And source of kickbacks for Democrat pols from welfare fraud.

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  31. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

    Geert Wilders, a major Trump ally, lost half his seats in the last election. This week his party lost another 7 MPs. They walked! Collapse in real time.

    The last barrier to complete Islamification of the Netherlands.

    https://www.muslimnetwork.tv/islam-emerges-as-fastest-growing-religion-among-dutch-youth/

    Enjoy the fruits of open borders.

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  32. Spiritus Mundi   3 hours ago

    Are you safer now?

    As a matter of fact, yes. Not that Reeeason would report on it. It would contradict all their pearl clutching and mockery over Trumps NG deployments.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/01/icymi-murder-rate-plunges-to-125-year-low-as-president-trump-restores-law-and-order/

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  33. JFree   2 hours ago

    Aah - the Libertarians in favor of extrajudicial murder of American citizens are here infesting the comments.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

      No, we want immigration enforcement to continue and people to protest lawfully and peaceably (both of which are mandated by the constitution) . Obstructing arrests, biting off agents fingers, ramming them with cars, destroying private and public prorperty must stop.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

        Problem is, you all seem to have a very narrow definition of what constitutes "lawfully and peacefully", and a very subjective one as well - a very narrow one that applies to the out-group, and a very broad one that applies to the in-group. Rioting at the Capitol is "peaceful protesting", but standing in the street filming cops is "violent resistance".

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      2. Longtobefree   31 minutes ago

        Just for the record, they are not MANDATED by the constitution.

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    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

      J Fucked - asswipe in favor of organized crime posting lies here.

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    3. MollyGodiva   1 hour ago

      Not Libertarians. MAGAs. Libertarians would be aghast at government violence.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

        Matt “Red Wedding” Welch says otherwise.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

        Libertarians for open borders, no laws, and free stuff!

        You stupid cunt.

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      3. JFree   46 minutes ago

        Libertarian is the right word. It's a perverted term but the reality is that it is libertarians who perverted it. Rothbard is the one who transformed the term from its previous notion of a leftist anarchist to what is now generally seen as right-wing. Rothbard is the one who overtly allied libertarianism with the KKK and David Duke (and quite deliberately within the framework of unrestrained police violence against undesirables) as a way of undermining what he viewed as effete Hayekians. It is the Mises Caucus (the heir of Rothbard and the paleos/alt-right) that runs the Libertarian Party today. It is those folks who infest the commentariat (and some of the authors) here.

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  34. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

    https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/2015624443020591155

    Meet Erik Martindale, a registered Florida nurse.

    He says he won’t give anesthesia for Republicans undergoing surgery and believes that’s his right and is ethical.

    He needs to be fired and stripped of his license immediately.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

      Or just left alone with some Republicans who survived his "treatment".

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  35. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

    Irony. Ice takes down plane of anti-ICE lawyers.

    https://x.com/steverob/status/2015797731348856997?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Private jet crashed in Maine belonged to top anti-ICE / anti-Trump lawyers who defended illegal aliens; all passengers presumed dead.

    Here's what we know:

    - A 2020 Bombardier CL-600 Challenger belonging to KTKJ Challenger LLC crashed on takeoff last night at Bangor International Airport @ 7:45 amid heavy snow.

    - Booms could be heard throughout the area and a reported eight travelers are presumed dead.

    - The LLC is registered to Jason Itkin and Kurt Arnold, two trial attorneys who've made waves fighting conservatives in Texas and defending illegal aliens. It is not known whether Itkin and Arnold were on board or why they were in Maine.

    - The Texas Voice has reported: "Along with George Soros and other personal injury trial lawyers, both the Arnold & Itkin and Abraham Watkins law firms were major donors to the left-wing First Tuesday PAC during the 2024 election cycle... First Tuesday was responsible for a multi-million dollar ad campaign that encouraged voters to “Stop MAGA Republicans” and “Vote For Every Democrat.” The Arnold & Itkin and Abraham Watkins law firms each donated $300,000 to First Tuesday in support of their efforts to elect Democrats in 2024."

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

      White snow is racist.

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    2. mad.casual   43 minutes ago

      [averts eyes from Ra's Al Gore's "Since 2000, women and minorities, who make up less than 10% of all pilots, were factors in 66% of crashes caused by pilot error." post]

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  36. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

    I thought the White Males left Afghanistan.

    Taliban Criminal Code Allows Child Abuse, Slavery & Executions, Says Rights Group
    https://www.afintl.com/en/202601217253

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  37. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

    https://x.com/Schwalm5132/status/2015470661490057540

    As a former Special Forces Warrant Officer with multiple rotations running counterinsurgency ops—both hunting insurgents and trying to separate them from sympathetic populations—I’ve seen organized resistance up close. From Anbar to Helmand, the pattern is familiar: spotters, cutouts, dead drops (or modern equivalents), disciplined comms, role specialization, and a willingness to absorb casualties while bleeding the stronger force slowly.

    What’s unfolding in Minneapolis right now isn’t “protest.” It’s low-level insurgency infrastructure, built by people who’ve clearly studied the playbook.

    Signal groups at 1,000-member cap per zone. Dedicated roles: mobile chasers, plate checkers logging vehicle data into shared databases, 24/7 dispatch nodes vectoring assets, SALUTE-style reporting (Size, Activity, Location, Unit, Time, Equipment) on suspected federal vehicles. Daily chat rotations and timed deletions to frustrate forensic recovery. Vetting processes for new joiners. Mutual aid from sympathetic locals (teachers providing cover, possible PD tip-offs on license plate lookups). Home-base coordination points. Rapid escalation from observation to physical obstruction—or worse.

    This isn’t spontaneous outrage. This is C2 (command and control) with redundancy, OPSEC hygiene, and task organization that would make a SF team sergeant nod in recognition. Replace “ICE agents” with “occupying coalition forces” and the structure maps almost 1:1 to early-stage urban cells we hunted in the mid-2000s.

    The most sobering part? It’s domestic. Funded, trained (somewhere), and directed by people who live in the same country they’re trying to paralyze law enforcement in.

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    1. MollyGodiva   2 hours ago

      Not being spontaneous is not the same as being an insurgency. It is called good organizing.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

        It's called 'organize crime', shitforbrains.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

        Lying cunt.

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    2. mad.casual   2 hours ago

      +1

      The compare/contrast v. Iran, AI, and the "dark web" ("dark social media"?) is also interesting.

      That is, "our" Skynet would be stupid to launch cruise missiles and start churning out T-800s, that's a relic from a previous era of warfare.

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  38. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

    https://x.com/DefiantLs/status/2015809453627462091

    While Hillary Clinton spread lies about ICE arresting a 5 year old... this is what she had to say in 2014,

    “Just because your child gets across the border, that doesn't mean the child gets to stay.”

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

      What did she say about elian gonzalez?

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  39. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

    'The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?'

    I dunno. How many human sacrifices will be thrown into the volcano in the name of open borders?

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    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 hours ago

      'The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?'

      Still looking for the first.

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  40. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

    People have been doing this for centuries, yet there's a certain breed of champagne socialist that seems to believe that they shouldn't have to, that the state should provide for all their needs and wants, including emotions, which means punishing people who defy the socialist vision.

    FIFY

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  41. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 hours ago

    "Homeland Security's sprawling deportation campaign is a marked departure from the agency's focus after its founding in the aftermath of Sept. 11. The department was created to protect the nation against foreign terrorists and work closely with federal and local agencies. Under Noem's leadership, the agency has moved its focus to immigration enforcement—pulling and cutting resources from other operations, like the Federal Emergency Management Agency, to carry out the president's mass deportation campaign."

    If this seems surprising or disturbing, you might be an idiot. Or a Koch-sponsored open-border-tarian.

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  42. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

    https://x.com/AFpost/status/2015649088872812792

    Since 2000, women and minorities, who make up less than 10% of all pilots, were factors in 66% of crashes caused by pilot error.

    Despite the disparity, major airlines are continuing to hire on the basis of identity rather than merit.

    In January 2025, Delta CLO Peter Carter said the airline is “steadfast” in its DEI commitments and called them “critical to our business,” while United’s training academy maintains a goal that 50% of its graduates be women or minorities. Southwest likewise continues to pledge that it will “recruit, hire, and retain a diverse and inclusive workforce.”

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    1. Minadin   2 hours ago

      What an odd coincidence.

      Exhibit A: the 2019 Atlas Air crash. The National Transportation Safety Board determined the cause to be “the inappropriate response by the first officer,” Conrad Aska, a black pilot at the controls.

      A check airman (an experienced pilot who oversees quality and safety) described his “piloting performance as among the worst he had ever seen.”

      When faced with an unexpected situation in the simulator, Aska would “get extremely flustered and could not respond appropriately.”

      NTSB found Aska panicked after accidentally initiating a go-around procedure and flew the plane into the ground.

      Atlas remains unrepentant. Its website declares, “Equity and inclusion are deeply woven into our operations.”

      https://nypost.com/2026/01/23/opinion/despite-trumps-efforts-airline-dei-programs-are-still-risking-peoples-lives/

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 hour ago

        Assisted suicide on the societal level.

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  43. Ra's al Gore   2 hours ago

    https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/2015186826139738471

    And we have found,

    that more than 10,000 illegal aliens using the exact same Social Security number voted in the 2020 Arizona general election. And that’s only in the border state of Arizona.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   51 minutes ago

      Mike told me this was a lie.

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  44. chemjeff radical individualist   1 hour ago

    As I predicted, Ra's Al Gore decided to make an appearance to flood the zone with old stories and rage-inducing clickbait in order to distract from the very bad day that Team Red is having with the Alex Pretti murder. It is oh so very predictable at this point.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

      Oh, go blow it out your fat ass. You come in with your own rage bait and then try to claim you’re some sort of libertarian, Marxist asshole.

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  45. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 hour ago

    "...How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?..."

    Try starting with at least one, Liz. Or simply admit to being a TDS-addled steaming pile of lying shit.

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  46. damikesc   1 hour ago

    "The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?"

    Ask the neo-Confederate MN state government. They could let ICE pick up criminals at the jail, but they'd rather get their people to risk their lives so they can maintain political power.

    Liz, this is really shitty, even for you.

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   58 minutes ago

      The majority of the people that ICE is detaining now don't have criminal records. So even if the state government fully cooperated, ICE would still be in the streets dragging people out of houses.

      What you are actually demanding is that everyone tolerate ICE thuggery and shut up about it.

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   49 minutes ago

        "ICE would still be in the streets dragging people out of houses"

        ICE goes to get the bad guys where they are and jeffy protests. ICE goes to get the bad guys at the courthouse, jeffy protests. Walz and Frey refuse to let police call ICE when they let bad guys out of jail and jeffy says norhing.

        Jeffy's support is for the bad guys, not the rule of law.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   14 minutes ago

          I am in favor of the rule of law, provided that the law is just.

          You, on the other hand, are in favor of giving the police authority to "enforce the law" even if it means the authorities themselves break the law.

          Chucky's world:

          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/MGTKYa4vdI8

          Again your real complaint is that there are people who are upset that ICE is bending the rules.

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      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   47 minutes ago

        Hey, asshole, being an illegal alien with a deportation order is enough. That by itself makes them lawbreakers.

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    2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   56 minutes ago

      The takes on this are insane. People interfering with the detention of criminals are getting hurt and shade is being thrown on the administration and agency that are enforcing the law.

      If the protesters were to keep to observing and stay out of the way, none of these bad things would have occurred. The "peaceful observers" are putting themselves in danger and any sane libertarian take should acknowledge that actions have consequences.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   50 minutes ago

        If the protesters were to keep to observing and stay out of the way

        That is what Pretti did. Watch the video I linked to above. The officer in in the beige cap initiated the entire incident when he walked across the street to shove the three protesters. That is what kicked off the violence.

        The three protesters WERE out of the way. It was the ICE officer who initiated the conflict.

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        1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   34 minutes ago

          All 3 of them were in the street before the officer approached them you gaslighting sack of shit. You see how much traffic there is? You see how dangerous the situation is? You hear the whistle and epithets being shouted?

          You could truthfully say the ICE officer initiated contact. But to say he initiated the conflict is a bold face lie.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   17 minutes ago

            The ICE officer initiated the VIOLENT conflict. That better for you?

            Why did the ICE officer shove those protesters in the first place?

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            1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 minutes ago

              To keep them out of the street, the blocking of which is a crime you fucking retard.

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  47. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   52 minutes ago

    What is often (Nearly always) being missed is the extreme negligence on the Minneapolis police. Instead of being bystanders to protests that are actively blocking roads, the police should keep the protestors out of the road. The Minneapolis police should not be expect ICE to perform crowd control without accepting the risk when things go wrong. This is a complete failure by the Minneapolis police, compounded by overzealous protestors and ICE agents. We should expect more from the Minneapolis police that sitting back and allowing protestors to commit federal crimes by obstructing a federal law enforcement operation. Hauling trash bins and parking cars in the middle of the road, violating private property to protest or committing acts of vandalism causing damage, is NOT simply being a "legal observer". While I believe in the right to protest, I DO NOT condone the actions of many of the protestors. These protestors who step over the line, should be arrested by the Minneapolis police instead of being encouraged by Mayor Jacob Frey, Governor Tim Walz and the police chief.

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  48. Incunabulum   44 minutes ago

    >And another question is raised by the reckless brutality on full display now. Are agencies like ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) doing what they claim? Are you safer now? Is your money well-spent? Is the government doing what it ought to be?

    These are good questions.

    1. No - but my state doesn't tolerate illegal aliens (or anyone else) committing violent crimes like NY and MN does so . . . violent illegals don't stay here, they go to NYC and Minneapolis

    2. Yes. There is less fraud and violence in the country now.

    3. Yes.

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  49. Longtobefree   27 minutes ago

    "The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy: How many unjust killings by agents of the state must be tolerated in the name of border security?"

    And the other obvious question: "How many rapes and murders and drug deals must be tolerated in the name of violating the law for the sake of democrat votes?"

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  50. JFree   24 minutes ago

    The scene in Minneapolis raises hard questions for those who had previously supported Trump's immigration policy:

    What a fucking cop out. It didn't raise 'hard questions' at all for anyone including you. Those who support the brownshirts still do without the slightest question or hesitation. Those who opposed the brownshirts before the weekend still do. Nothing has changed.

    What is becoming more obviously true however is Dietrich Bonhoeffer's observation about 'the stupid' (Dummheit) which originates from Schiller's Mit der Dummheit kämpfen Götter selbst vergebens. There is no conversation - no reason - no instruction - no insight - no revelation - no interaction that can occur anymore. How can any of that happen when one side - the one SUPPORTING the power being manifest - is simply repeating slogans, catchphrases, etc with no more thought than a parrot (or an AI chatbot)?

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