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Vance Goes to Minnesota

Plus: Nurses on strike, Florida is full, the consumer revolution, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 1.23.2026 9:30 AM

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Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, nominee to be Donald Trump’s vice president, acknowledges the crowd in the Fiserv Forum before addressing the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee, Wis., on Wednesday July 17, 2024. (Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call/Newscom)

Vance goes to Minnesota: "The guys behind me are doing an incredible job, and frankly, a lot of the media is lying about the job they do every single day," said Vice President J.D. Vance yesterday in Minneapolis, Minnesota. "That doesn't mean that there aren't occasionally stories and videos out there that suggest they aren't doing everything right."

State and local politicians should "lower the temperature and lower the chaos" by cooperating with federal law enforcement, added Vance. "We don't need 3,000 ice agents in our streets—more than every local police department combined," countered Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, responding to the vice president's comments. "Take the show of force off the streets and partner with the state on targeted enforcement of violent offenders instead of random, aggressive confrontation."

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If you can excuse the totally incompetent messenger, this is not altogether bad advice: Targeted enforcement of violent offenders first was, after all, what Vance had sold to voters on the campaign trail. "We gotta focus on the most hardened criminals," Vance said at a rally in Arizona back in 2024. "We've got 425,000 violent criminal illegal aliens in this country right now. We gotta get those people out of our country and we've gotta do it as quickly as humanly possible." Of course, the Trump administration sometimes enjoys creative accounting: They can do a lot of rhetorical twisting about what is encompassed by the term violent. (For example, do drug dealers count? Does anyone involved in the drug trade, no matter how low level, count?) But it's not wrong to say that the general public by and large supports deportation for those who menace and threaten the communities they've entered, but more leniency for those who are nonviolent; Vance, Walz, and the general public are actually all in agreement in terms of deportation prioritization.

The federal government's current approach is maximum showiness, not maximum efficacy. "Two men detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement appeared in federal court hearings Wednesday, including the Venezuelan national who was shot in the leg by ICE agents last week in north Minneapolis," reports CBS News. "Both were granted conditional release, but the decision has been stayed until noon Thursday. They do have ICE detainers, so they will likely end up in ICE custody again."

And since the federal government is doubling down on making a spectacle of it all, this provides ample opportunity for local police and politicians to serve as foils.

"Minneapolis Police Department's been called on several situations that they have not responded," said Border Patrol Commander at Large Greg Bovino. "The presence of protestors alone is not sufficient reason for MPD to respond where ICE activity is occurring," responded a Minneapolis Police Department spokesman.


Scenes from New York: Now look, I'm gonna be very nice here because my second son is still in the neonatal intensive care unit, taken care of by wonderful (non-striking!) nurses every single day, but I will just say: This New York City nurses strike is going on mighty long, with contradictory narratives emerging as to whether the issue is pay or workplace safety.

"Since the start of the strike, nurses on the picket line and their union leaders have tended to minimize pay as a major reason for the labor action, instead highlighting other demands," reports The New York Times. (Of course they have! That's how this goes.)

The workplace safety issues they've flagged—incidents with violent and erratic patients, especially when working in emergency rooms—are valid concerns, but they're also most likely related to the fact that the city has allowed rampant mental illness to fester in public and the long-lingering effects of deinstitutionalization (which also came with plenty of problems). It's also not clear who exactly should be handling these types of patients. But keep this saga in mind the next time people on the left push for more city spending on social workers to intervene immediately after people commit acts of violence. How exactly will that go?


QUICK HITS

  • "Florida is full," says MAGA-coded gubernatorial candidate James Fishback. "We are not a refugee camp for New Yorkers." But isn't that exactly what states should be? Maybe not refugee camps—people should pay their own way—but competitors, able to attract people who feel poorly served by their current government, who seek a better life full of cortaditos and croquetas and cigars and never needing to get a mid-winter spray tan ever again? (Fishback also, uh, may not stand much of a chance, per The Washington Free Beacon.)

As Florida Governor, I'll slap a $50,000 "Mamdani Tax" on any out-of-state buyer purchasing a single-family home.

No more New Yorkers pushing Floridians out of their own neighborhoods. pic.twitter.com/w0mnnzthUq

— James Fishback (@j_fishback) January 22, 2026

  • Contradictory information is emerging about President Donald Trump's comments earlier this week on Greenland:

New: Danish officials tell me there have been no direct discussions between Denmark and the US about the possibility of granting the US sovereign parcels of land, and a NATO spokesperson said Rutte did not discuss it with Trump on Wednesday. https://t.co/PXbG4zvXtg

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) January 22, 2026

  • Maryland lawmakers are going after dynamic pricing.
  • "Abigail Spanberger, the former congresswoman turned governor of Virginia, won office in November largely because of who she was not," write the editors of National Review. Spanberger positioned herself as a moderate, someone concerned with kitchen-table issues over culture warring. Voters are in for a rude awakening: "With her opening act in office, Spanberger rescinded Governor Youngkin's Executive Order No. 47, requiring heightened cooperation with federal immigration authorities," continue the editors. And Democrats in the legislature, now that they have the firm upper hand, are "pushing a constitutional amendment that would create a 'fundamental right' to abortion that would pave the way for abortions in the third trimester if a physician rules it necessary for not just the life but the 'mental health' of the mother; the creation of a government-run childcare program; and a return to the draconian regional effort to cap carbon emissions," as well as raising taxes and limiting gun ownership. TLDR; under Spanberger, Virginia is looking bluer than ever.
  • "The US named two-time Ambassador Laura Dogu as its new chargé d'affaires for Venezuela, signaling a rapid push to reestablish a formal diplomatic presence in Caracas," reports Bloomberg.
  • Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) is trying to capitalize on her Minnesota connections during this ICE-y political moment, gearing up for a gubernatorial run (and possibly more?).
  • Profoundly messed up:

These stories never fail to make my jaw drop. A CPS worker ruled this family neglected their son because they…let him ride his scooter a third of a mile away.

They're now living under a government "safety plan" for behavior that was normal just a few decades ago. https://t.co/7IKlMp2raJ

— Billy Binion (@billybinion) January 21, 2026

  • Enough with the 3D-printed Starbucks eggs and the Soylent and the synthetic fibers and the living in the pods and the eating the bugs and the you'll-own-nothing-and-be-happy mindset. I've noticed more and more people craving a return to high-quality materials, good craftsmanship, repair over throwing away:

Little has been written about the consumer revolution of the post-COVID era. People want real fibers and real food, and companies are starting to pay attention. https://t.co/MBjP2Kie9p

— Maggie (@maggiemoda) January 22, 2026

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    Vance goes to Minnesota...

    I want a pic of him leaning against a chain link fence in a white pants suit weeping into his hand.

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    1. Minadin   3 weeks ago

      How's this for imagery?

      LMAO. Libs in Minneapolis are currently standing outside a hotel in -15 degree weather banging pots and playing instruments to keep JD Vance from sleeping inside his hotel.

      Little do they know, JD Vance landed back in D.C. 5 hours ago.

      https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/2014541486038069578

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      1. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

        Democrats gonna Democrat. Since when did reality have anything to do with their actions?

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

          Hey, man, don't you even post-modern? Reality is whatever I (and my cat) say it is.

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        2. Vernon Depner   3 weeks ago

          Reality is white supremacy.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

        Now they will be late to target to return salt.

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      3. HorseConch   3 weeks ago

        Sheer brilliance.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    Take the show of force off the streets and partner with the state on targeted enforcement of violent offenders instead of random, aggressive confrontation.

    Wait, was that on offer?

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      That is what was tried first, and totally ignored by the Emperor of Minnesota.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

        Currently the situation in 41 states without violent protesting.

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    2. Mickey Rat   3 weeks ago

      Only if you completely ignore what the Democrat's policy has been at the State and local levels about Sanctuary Cities and such.

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    3. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      The state that is now full up on New Yorkers enthusiastically bought plane tickets for bunch of illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard.

      Martha's Vineyard promptly relocated them to a nearby military base off the island/outside the community.

      Once again, "All of a sudden..." and "For no particular reason at all..."

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    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 weeks ago

      I’m giving Liz some grace because of her son, but this stupidity is getting tiresome.

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      1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

        Yeah, as I indicated below. I've been around "pregnancy brain" a time or two or three. It's actually pretty astoundingly miraculous how brains other than my own manage to unwire and then rewire themselves around such a monumental event, repeatedly, but it's not a permanent condition.

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      2. tracerv   3 weeks ago

        She's on the schneid.

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    5. damikesc   3 weeks ago

      You'd think that letting criminals go instead of waiting for ICE to pick them up from the prison would be what the state needs not to do.

      But it is exactly what they do.

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  3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    All the media does is lie. Yesterday democrats and corporate media pushed a lie regarding a 5 year old detained. The reality? The father abandoned the child when he ran from ICE.

    https://x.com/DrewHolden360/status/2014453346984161688

    But the lies are effective on the intellectually lazy. We've seen it just this morning with sarc. We see it with sullum regarding Good.

    The intellectual lazy spend more time finding ways to justify why they fell for the lies than they do in veing curious in the first place, see Sullum and the Good incident.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

      Probably 50 Facebook feeds I scrolled by yesterday pushed the same fake story.

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 weeks ago

      Sullum may be lazy, but it's primary motivation is evil

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  4. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    British neurosurgeon laughs at past remarks about 'grannies... bullied into' suicide
    https://www.liveaction.org/news/british-neurosurgeon-laughs-remarks-grannies-bullied-isuicide

    During a recent Parliamentary committee hearing, Marsh was asked about his previous comments, in which he advocated for 'assisted dying.' Made in 2017, his remarks also insulted Christians, whom he blamed for fighting previous legislation to legalize euthanasia and assisted suicide. According to the Daily Mail, he told The Times:

    The contributions from the anti-euthanasia people the last time it was debated in parliament were abysmal.

    One bloody woman MP claimed the drugs were very unpleasant. That's a complete lie. So much of it is all bloody Christians.

    They argue that grannies will be made to commit suicide. Even if a few grannies get bullied into it, isn't that a price worth paying for all the people who could die with dignity?

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

      Canadian Government Euthanizes ‘Young & Healthy’ 26-Year-Old for ‘Depression’
      https://slaynews.com/news/canadian-government-euthanizes-young-healthy-26-year-old-depression/

      Canada’s euthanasia regime has claimed yet another young life after a 26-year-old man suffering from depression was euthanized by the government’s assisted death program, despite previously being rejected for the lethal injection by a doctor who said he was too “young and healthy” to be killed.

      The devastating revelation was shared by his mother, Margaret Marsilla, in a heartbreaking Facebook post, who accused the socialized healthcare system’s doctors of using a “loophole” to kill her son.

      Marsilla announced that her son, Kiano, had been killed through the Canadian government’s Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) system.

      After previous failed attempts to euthanize Kiano for diabetes and visual impairment, he was eventually killed for “depression,” which was classified as “mental illness,” according to his devastated mom.

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      1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

        Guess where the above is heading......

        https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/professor-white-people-should-commit-suicide-as-an-ethical-act/

        “White people should commit suicide as an ethical act,” says the top of a video presentation by professor Derek Hook at the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, college.

        Professor of Psychology at Duquesne University Derek Hook, defends the quote “white people should commit suicide as an ethical act” as an “opportunity” to “castrate whiteness”.

        This is part of an “anti-racist” discussion on “nice white therapists” held by AAPCSW.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

          This is all feeding into the conspiracy theory that covid was intentional to kill off the elderly.

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          1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

            Remove expensive elderly so the state can buy the support of 3 or 4 younger people, and grab their $$ with death taxes.

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            1. Vernon Depner   3 weeks ago

              Most of their money goes to nursing homes and to doctors and hospitals for heroic "care" that is too late to help them.

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        2. damikesc   3 weeks ago

          Oddly, the white Derek Hook is not, in fact, dead.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

            Suicide for thee, but not for me.

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 weeks ago

        Through early morning fog I see
        Visions of the things to be
        The pains that are withheld for me
        I realize and I can see

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        1. Kungpowderfinger   3 weeks ago

          Klinger approves

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    2. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      So much of it is all bloody Christians.

      Wow, uh, as a Christian; when you say Christians are the only ones who could possibly oppose systematic and/or state-sanctioned killings out loud, I'm pretty sure you've veered pretty far off of whatever script you're reading.

      I'm pretty intimately familiar with the notion that lots of doctors have superiority, if not God, complexes, but yikes!

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  5. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

    Because, of course, it's (D)ifferent.

    https://civildeadline.com/manhattan-judge-issues-ruling-in-ny-house-seat/

    Democrats secured a significant and revealing victory this week when a Manhattan judge ordered New York’s 11th Congressional District to be redrawn ahead of the 2026 midterm elections. On its surface, the ruling is framed as a routine enforcement of voting rights law.

    In practice, it functions as a case study in how legal mechanisms, partisan timing, and judicial discretion can converge to alter electoral outcomes long after voters have already rendered their verdict.

    The district in question, represented by Republican Rep. Nicole Malliotakis, encompasses all of Staten Island and portions of southern Brooklyn. It is not a competitive seat by any modern definition. Malliotakis won reelection by nearly 30 points in 2024, and the district voted decisively for Donald Trump that same year.

    Despite this, Democratic-aligned attorneys argued that the map diluted minority voting strength, citing historical patterns of discrimination and statistical modeling to claim the district’s configuration continued to produce disenfranchisement.

    The judge agreed, ordering the state’s independent redistricting commission to redraw the lines on an accelerated timeline. The logic of the decision rests on an expansive interpretation of causation: not that minority voters are prevented from voting, but that electoral outcomes they do not favor can themselves be evidence of structural harm. Once that standard is accepted, virtually any politically inconvenient district becomes vulnerable to litigation.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

      My gerrymandering is speech; your gerrymandering is violence!

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

        I think most people confuse gerrymandering with lollygagging and assume it is just politicians being called lazy. It certainly does not fall on the ear as something to take seriously.

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  6. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    Targeted enforcement of violent offenders first was, after all, what Vance had sold to voters on the campaign trail.

    As I recall, all the public wanted was a simple moratorium on cat-eating.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

      Wait, can we still eat the violent criminal cats?

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      1. Quicktown Brix   3 weeks ago

        That's all cats.

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        1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

          Bird killers, the lot of them.

          And have you heard them go at it? Nothing sounds consensual in that cacophony.

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  7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    Im sure this is a bad thing and authoritarian as trump withdraws from the WHO.

    https://apnews.com/article/world-health-organization-trump-b6e0be566c7db9aece0334e987d516f1

    Of course the WHO is claiming we owe them over 100M before we can.

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    1. Ska   3 weeks ago

      Best we can do is 100M dicks in their mouths.

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      1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

        We could take back all the fruit from Operation Warp Speed.

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      2. tracerv   3 weeks ago

        I regret I only have one dick to give for my Country.

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 weeks ago

      Drop 100M in bombs on their head quarters.

      We just gave you $100e6 at a very rapid pace

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      1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

        "Thank you for your attention in this matter."

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    "The presence of protestors alone is not sufficient reason for MPD to respond where ICE activity is occurring," responded a Minneapolis Police Department spokesman.

    When seconds count in an encounter between trigger happy feds and SUV revving protesters, MPD is only minutes away.

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      "To make up excuses as to why we don't serve or protect or preserve the peace or uphold the law for anyone." doesn't look as good on the fenders of squad cars.

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      1. HorseConch   3 weeks ago

        Well, it sounds like they've had enough of Frey and Walz, too.

        https://x.com/CrimeWatchMpls/status/2014532085940167070

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  9. MyPublicName   3 weeks ago

    I pay for Reason plus, just to get hyperlinked to news sites that are paywalled. Thanks Liz

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 weeks ago

      You pay for reason plus?
      And have you heard about the internet archive?

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    2. Rick James   3 weeks ago

      This dude pays to comment here... So they do exist...

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      1. MyPublicName   3 weeks ago

        There must be something I'm missing, doesn't everyone who comments pay for Reason Plus?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

          Prior to February 29, 2024, you didn’t have to pay to comment. Most of those who were registered to comment here before that date were grandfathered in, but Reason has threatened to take that access away.

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          1. MyPublicName   3 weeks ago

            Ah ok thank you, I am assuming most people in the comments were grandfathered in then. Interesting

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

              You would be correct. A few of the liberaltarians here have many socks they used to use. Can probably ask them for a free account. Shrike had like 10.

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            2. tracerv   3 weeks ago

              Interesting question. I started lurking Trump 1 and joined in the fun around Covid.

              Haven't been asked to pay yet.

              Proaaaaaably should shut the fuck up now.

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  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    There's a bit if hilarity regarding Davos elites being scammed by fake tickets from scalpers.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/davos-elites-scammed-fake-vip-passes-exclusive-usa-house-venue

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  11. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Cancel the Midterms
    https://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/03/opinion/cancel-the-midterms.html?emc=edit_ty_20141103&%23038=&nl=opinion&%23038=&nlid=62210646

    But the two-year cycle isn’t just unnecessary; it’s harmful to American politics.

    The main impact of the midterm election in the modern era has been to weaken the president, the only government official (other than the powerless vice president) elected by the entire nation. Since the end of World War II, the president’s party has on average lost 25 seats in the House and about 4 in the Senate as a result of the midterms. This is a bipartisan phenomenon — Democratic presidents have lost an average of 31 House seats and between 4 to 5 Senate seats in midterms; Republican presidents have lost 20 and 3 seats, respectively.

    The realities of the modern election cycle are that we spend almost two years selecting a president with a well-developed agenda, but then, less than two years after the inauguration, the midterm election cripples that same president’s ability to advance that agenda.

    ...Another quirk is that, during midterm elections, the electorate has been whiter, wealthier, older and more educated than during presidential elections. Biennial elections require our representatives to take this into account, appealing to one set of voters for two years, then a very different electorate two years later.

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      Cancel the Midterms Fix or repeal the 17th (not even or just for this President in these upcoming midterms, or necessarily the next)

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  12. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    In the craziest ruling i think I've ever seen...

    In a state that historically gerrymanders by race, NY judge declares one GOP voting district unconstitutional because of too many whites. Ironically the district is not far off with state demographics.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/davos-elites-scammed-fake-vip-passes-exclusive-usa-house-venue

    No other districts, just the one GOP district designed by democrats.

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  13. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    If they can smuggle that out.......what are they smuggling in?

    https://instapundit.com/769869/

    Okay DataRepublican, and I did some general numbers on the SomaliFraud cash going through Minneapolis airport.

    According to reports, over 2 years, they moved roughly $700MM through the airport.

    That means (if they used $100 bills) they moved 7.7 metric tons of cash, and keep…

    — Walter Curt

    Here’s the interesting bit:

    WHY Minneapolis?

    Well, after some quick discussing with regular travelers of the MN airports.

    The Somalis run the airport.
    They’re the ground crews.
    They’re the airport staff.
    They’re friggin TSA.

    We have an airport in the United States of America run by pirates.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

      Biden administration knew and did nothing.

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      1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

        They were in on it. They had 'refugees' running point on the scam so they could scream racist at anyone who objected.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

          Was Hunter on the airport board?

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

            Follow the fluffy white lines, and I don't mean contrails.

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            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 weeks ago

              Contrails are condensation that happens when an airplane flies through the air at neer dew point temp. The change in pressure due to the air foil causes the water in the air to become ice for a brief period of time.

              I think you were look for the word Chem trails, which is the theory that governments were putting aerosols in the atmosphere to change earth. Which the subhuman trash at Davis confirmed is true this year

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

                I was thinking more along the lines of cocaine.

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  14. Moonrocks   3 weeks ago

    TLDR; under Spanberger, Virginia is looking bluer than ever.

    Nobody could have seen that coming. Nobody, I tell you!

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      Vote for fascists, get fascism.
      Every time.

      PS. Democrats lie during political campaigns

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      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 weeks ago

        Democrats lie
        Ftfy

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      2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

        The fact that so many federal government workers vote blue is the exact reason the rest of us should avoid it if at all possible.

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  15. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    "Florida is full," says MAGA-coded gubernatorial candidate James Fishback. "We are not a refugee camp for New Yorkers."

    Mister DeSantis, build up this wall!

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      "MAGA-coded gubernatorial candidate"

      What the hell is that even supposed to mean?

      Just for the record, Liz, that bozo is polling between zero and five percent over 9 different polls

      How about a few words from Byron Donalds, polling at 37 - 52 per cent?

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      1. Mickey Rat   3 weeks ago

        Find the fringe candidates on the Right, promote their odd issues as what the mainstream Right believes, ignore evidence to the contrary.

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      2. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

        What the hell is that even supposed to mean?

        He's crypto-MAGA whereas Ron is proto-MAGA?

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 weeks ago

          Who's ultra-mega-maga again?

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          1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

            MAGA-coded:
            > ls -l RonDeSantis.py
            -rwxrw-rw- 1 root root 4096 Jan 01 2018 RonDeSantis.py
            > head RonDeSantis.py
            #!/usr/bin/python
            # A program defining a Red Team anti-immigration governor object and method for getting a Red Team anti-immigration governor elected to a Red State with an immigration crisis.

            import MAGA
            > hg commit && hg push

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            1. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

              Was forced to move from mercurial to git. Every day I find a new reason to curse git and spend an hour trying to figure out what has happened and how to fix it.

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  16. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    Ripples.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/us-q3-gdp-revised-44-highest-two-years

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  17. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

    Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, responding to the vice president's comments. "Take the show of force off the streets and partner with the state on targeted enforcement of violent offenders instead of random, aggressive confrontation."

    Pretty sure we tried that and you told ICE to pound sand, declared your state and cities Sanctuary, and rallied your AWFL shock troops to be martyred for the cause.

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      Gov. Walz, I'm going to need you to be very, *very* clear about what you mean when you say "partner with the state".

      Specifically, when you follow it up by saying "targeted enforcement of violent offenders", it sounds like we should be ignoring the ongoing fraud that the state, if not facilitating, is not preventing.

      We may not be able to enforce that law, but we will not be a party to it, even if only perpetrated against its own citizens. Partner with ICE in keeping your own violent offenders off the streets.

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  18. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Killers, rapists and paedophiles to be let out early within months in huge justice scandal
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2161456/Justice-scandal-police-Labour-crime-prisons-victims
    Some 43,000 criminals will avoid jail altogether while many convicts will be out after spending just a third of their jail term in prison.

    Killers, rapists, paedophiles and burglars will be able to walk out from prison early within months as Labour were accused of a “betrayal” of victims. The Ministry of Justice’s hugely controversial sentencing reforms received Royal Assent on Thursday, despite widespread concern from campaigners and families.

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

      Labour want 'Panopticon' to have 'eyes of the state on you at all times'
      https://uk.news.yahoo.com/labour-want-panopticon-eyes-state-112106493.html
      Shabana Mahmood revealed that she wanted a system where “the eyes of the state can be on you at all times” while invoking an enduringly controversial proposal by the 18th-century philosopher Jeremy Bentham.

      In comments reported on Monday by The Telegraph, Mahmood said she wanted to use artificial intelligence for surveillance, as she proposed “Minority Report-style” policing.

      “AI and technology can be transformative to the whole of the law and order space,” said the Home Secretary in an interview with former prime minister Tony Blair last month.

      “When I was in justice, my ultimate vision for that part of the criminal justice system was to achieve, by means of AI and technology, what Jeremy Bentham tried to do with his Panopticon. That is that the eyes of the state can be on you at all times.

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      1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

        Councillor who called Rotherham grooming gang victims 'white trash' could keep seat for extra year after Labour election delay
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15474643/Councillor-Rotherham-grooming-gang-white-trash-Labour-election.html?ito=1490&ns_campaign=1490

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      2. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

        They need to free up space for all the speech criminals they plan on arresting.
        Never have governments hated their own countries and citizens more than what we're seeing in the West today.

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    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 weeks ago

      Hey, it’s not like they posted the wrong memes or anything…

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  19. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM : " COVID-19 WAS A TEST IN SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY "
    https://www.wwhisper.com/post/world-economic-forum-covid-19-was-a-test-in-social-responsibility

    1. COVID-19 was a test in social responsibility - A huge number of unimaginable public health restrictions were adopted by billions of citizens around the world. There were numerous examples worldwide of maintaining social distance, wearing masks, mass vaccinations, and acceptance of contact detection applications for public health that demonstrated the core of individual social responsibility.

    2. Technology breakthroughs of the fourth industrial revolution - Advances in emerging technologies such as AI, blockchain and digitization can enable personal carbon emissions tracking, awareness and also individual advice on low-carbon and ethical choices for consumption of products and services. The World Economic Forum's Scale 360 initiative shows the use of fourth industrial revolution technologies throughout the life cycle of products and services.

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    1. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

      If there was some sort of libertarian magazine out there I bet it would be reporting on this kind of thing.

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      1. Rick James   3 weeks ago

        *lol snort* Republicans, amirite? Jesus, Rand Paul, masks aren't mere talismans!!!

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  20. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    But isn't that exactly what states should be? Maybe not refugee camps—people should pay their own way—but competitors...

    Should be, yes. In practice, however, importing a bunch of people who voted themselves into a mess to repeat the practice in your state is a death wish.

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    1. Ajsloss   3 weeks ago

      Idaho on line two.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

        Also, Georgia, well, Atlanta's AWFL suburbs.

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  21. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    Does Reason have any interest, any interest at all, regarding Jack Smith being exposed yet again as a corrupt prosecutor in his questioning regarding J6, Trump indictments, abuses of office? Seems like a good story to use to be against QI.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      Too local?

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    2. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

      J6 was 10,000 9-11s doncha know?

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      1. HorseConch   3 weeks ago

        Don't forget to multiply that by Pearl Harbor to get the real answer.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

          So...

          (9-11 x 10,000) x PH = J6

          Correct?

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    3. Rick James   3 weeks ago

      We're not about that kind of qualified immunity, thank you very much.

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    4. damikesc   3 weeks ago

      Jesse...don't we already know the answer to that question?

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

        Again.... yes. *hangs head in shame again*

        What if I tell them he mentioned Villareal? Will they listen to it?

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  22. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Illegal immigrants rack up $1B-plus in Texas hospital costs in fiscal year 2025; total likely higher: report
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/illegal-immigrants-rack-up-1b-texas-hospital-costs-fy-2025-total-likely-higher-report

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

      Shut up and pay the bill citizen.

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    2. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      All "free" health care should be provided by the National Guard units.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

        Or cat ladies and crystal healers.

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        1. HorseConch   3 weeks ago

          Any emergency care provided by our tax dollars should be accompanied by deportation as soon as they're stable. If they're milking our ER dollars for a sore throat, they get a free plane ride with it.

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    3. Lester75   3 weeks ago

      Just deploy more ICE to Texas. Many more illegal immigrants per capital there than Minnesota, whether or not local cops cooperate. The only reason ICE Barbie is not sending more ICE to Texas and FLA is because the employers that hire illegals in TX and FLA (e.g. the meat packing industry, factories, farms, Trump's and other FLA hotels) have friends among Trump allies.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

        Texas works with Ice already dumbass.

        Florida and Texas both have ICE there. My god some of you are ignorant.

        https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2026/01/19/as-immigrant-arrests-rise-heres-what-to-know-about-ice-operations-in-texas/

        Texas is literally where your allies opened fire on ICE and shot up some illegals being detained retard.

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        1. DesigNate   3 weeks ago

          They really don’t understand why you’re not hearing these MN type of stories out of non sanctuary shitholes.

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  23. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Demand for high-achiever visas fuels a pay-to-play industry for scientific research and accolades
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/high-achiever-eb-1a-visas-scientific-research-awards/

    One individual running a visa "profile enhancement" Facebook page told software engineer Abhishek Bakare in May that for $500, he could list him as the fourth author on a computer science research paper, according to a recording of a phone call between the two that Bakare shared with CBS News.

    Bakare, who developed an artificial intelligence tool to spot low-quality research, had feigned interest in making a purchase to gather information on the fraud, he told CBS News.

    "Already I was working on this [paper] from the past four to five months," the seller told Bakare on the phone. "I'm adding you literally at the very last stage."

    He later added that at the time, he had 55 clients, all of them Indian nationals and most aiming for EB-1A or similar employment-based visas.

    "There are people, those who have paid, they have basically purchased a paper," the seller admitted, "which is not sort of ethical for EB-1."

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    1. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

      "not sort of ethical" lol. these fucking people.

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  24. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    Danish officials tell me there have been no direct discussions between Denmark and the US about the possibility of granting the US sovereign parcels of land, and a NATO spokesperson said Rutte did not discuss it with Trump on Wednesday.

    I don't know that I'd go bragging about being out of the loop.

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      After providing leverage and beclowning themselves with "OMG! He's going to start WW-IX.2! Again!", just being out of the loop is a step up.

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  25. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

    "Maybe not refugee camps—people should pay their own way—but competitors, able to attract people who feel poorly served by their current government,"

    Hyperbole aside, I think the point is that if New Yorkers want to move to Florida to escape their current government, then don't try to make Florida be like the New York you left. If you move to Florida, embrace being a Floridian and stop trying to be a New Yorker who happens to be living in Florida complaining about how bad things suck in Florida.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

      As I have said before, we need common sense voting laws, with a waiting period for newcomers. Say, 10 years.

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      1. Rick James   3 weeks ago

        The Free State Project has entered the chat.

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    2. Rick James   3 weeks ago

      Colorado has entered the chat.

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  26. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    "Florida is full," says MAGA-coded gubernatorial candidate James Fishback. "We are not a refugee camp for New Yorkers." But isn't that exactly what states should be? Maybe not refugee camps—people should pay their own way—but competitors, able to attract people who feel poorly served by their current government, who seek a better life full of cortaditos and croquetas and cigars and never needing to get a mid-winter spray tan ever again? (Fishback also, uh, may not stand much of a chance, per The Washington Free Beacon.)

    You mean the retarded left who flee the results of their voting desired and then male the same voting mistakes in areas that aren't failed?

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

      The real class war is against upper class leftists who are able to flee the results of their own stupidity and leave others holding the bag.

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      1. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

        oregon is a battleground for this.

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  27. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    Maryland lawmakers are going after dynamic pricing.

    The markets are no match for government fuckwits in determining the needs of the consumer.

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  28. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Austrian President calls on all women to wear headscarves in solidarity with Muslims to fight 'rampant Islamophobia'
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austrian-president-alexander-van-der-bellen-all-women-headscarves-hijab-veils-burqa-muslim-soldiarity-islamophobia-racism-a7707166.html

    The President of Austria has called for all women to wear headscarves in solidarity with Muslims to fight “rampant Islamophobia”.

    Alexander Van der Bellen, the left-wing former Green Party leader who narrowly beat a far-right candidate to take office in January, said freedom of expression was a fundamental right.

    “It is every woman’s right to always dress how she wants, that is my opinion on the matter,” he told an audience of school pupils.

    “And it is not only Muslim women, all women can wear a headscarf, and if this real and rampant Islamaphobia continues, there will come a day where we must ask all women to wear a headscarf – all – out of solidarity to those who do it for religious reasons.”

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    1. Ajsloss   3 weeks ago

      all women can wear a headscarf

      Culturally appropriate much?

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    2. Moonrocks   3 weeks ago

      beat a far-right candidate

      I still keep wondering what it takes for someone to qualify as a far-leftist.

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      1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

        The Khmer Rouge?

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        1. DesigNate   3 weeks ago

          They killed a bunch of artist and “intellectuals”, so clearly super right wing.

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    3. Mike Parsons   3 weeks ago

      “It is every woman’s right to always dress how she wants, that is my opinion on the matter,”

      "And that is why we should mimic the women who are specifically not allowed to dress how they want at all!"

      Seriously, the level of gas lighting retardation is getting off the charts with these people.

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      1. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

        you're scaring the hoes

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    4. rswallen   3 weeks ago

      Has he chosen to undergo genital mutil- I mean, get circumcised in solidarity with Muslims too?

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    5. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      Fun term, Islamophobia.
      A phobia is an irrational fear.
      I contend it is perfectly rational to fear a religion whose stated goal is to kill me.

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      1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

        Right.

        Asking non-Muslim women to wear headscarves in solidarity with or support of the Muslims you are afraid will kill you is literally and figuratively deranged.

        It would be one thing if there were a plainly stated ultimatum of "Put your women in headscarves or we'll kill you.", but that's not the case.

        If you have to be more fashionable or clinical, it's probably closer to (formerly) Munchausen or Stockholm Syndrome.

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        1. damikesc   3 weeks ago

          Remember, these are our betters and all.

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    6. Rocinante   3 weeks ago

      The President of Austria has called for all men to fuck goats and young boys to combat Islamophobia.

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  29. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

    "TLDR; under Spanberger, Virginia is looking bluer than ever."

    Just like Reason wanted.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

      Which is why KMW needs to be let go, and Reason needs to leave DC.

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  30. Moonrocks   3 weeks ago

    competitors, able to attract people who feel poorly served by their current government, who seek a better life full of cortaditos and croquetas and cigars and never needing to get a mid-winter spray tan ever again?

    That's all well and good until those refugees turn their new home into the one they fled from.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

      Works for 3rd worlders coming to America and wanting to act as if they are still in the 3rd world.

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  31. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

    Hey Liz. Reason fell dor the spanberger lies as well. May want to mention that. Just lime you all fell for the Biden as a moderate lies. In fact reason has a long history of falling dor the lies.

    May be a good article of this analysis. Maybe have reason admit to a few mistakes.

    Or just keep using the NYT, Wapo. Atlantic, etc as your primary sources.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

      They didn't "fall for the lies" they knowingly helped to perpetuate them.

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  32. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    ...under Spanberger, Virginia is looking bluer than ever.

    Not a good day to be bordering Washington, DC.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      Before I became a refugee from Virginia, we used to refer to those northern counties around DC as "Baja Maryland".

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      1. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

        we call portland Cali del norte

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      2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

        Hence the recent calls for DC to return to its historical boundaries. It would certainly spare the rest of Virginia from NoVa madness.

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  33. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    The US named two-time Ambassador Laura Dogu as its new chargé d'affaires for Venezuela, signaling a rapid push to reestablish a formal diplomatic presence in Caracas...

    She better be ready to lay down the law on that commie broad currently pretending to be president.

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  34. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    The Environmentalists Making Forest Fires Worse
    https://www.breakthroughjournal.org/p/the-environmentalists-making-forest
    During the period that about a sixth of California’s forests were going up in flames, one single group was busy suing the USFS 24 times. That group, Conservation Congress, was responsible for just under two fifths of the USFS’s NEPA-related lawsuits that were decided in federal circuit or appeals courts in California from 2010 to 2024, and spent $2 million on those lawsuits and 5 more in other western States.

    What’s most remarkable about Conservation Congress is not their ability to single-handedly hamstring dozens of USFS projects, but that they are, in fact, single-handed: the organization effectively is just one person: Denise Boggs of Great Falls, Montana.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      If you got the money, honey, the courts have the time - - - - - - - -

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  35. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D–Minn.) is trying to capitalize on her Minnesota connections during this ICE-y political moment, gearing up for a gubernatorial run...

    She'll comb through the salad that is immigration enforcement!

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  36. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Apartment manager accused of voter fraud, using ballots of ex-renters in Pasco
    https://www.tri-cityherald.com/news/local/crime/article314256778.html

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  37. Fist of Etiquette   3 weeks ago

    A CPS worker ruled this family neglected their son because they…let him ride his scooter a third of a mile away.

    "Worker ruled."

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

      But taking kids to anti ICE riots is just fine.

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  38. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    The libs were right, Trump was elected and now trans people are going into camps.

    ‘No other option’: inside the refugee camp for trans Americans fleeing Trump
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/19/i-was-afraid-for-my-life-the-transgender-refugees-fleeing-trumps-america

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      So, when you're tallying up your population and projecting the growth of your nation's carbon footprint, running the calculations to ensure equality, do they count as 0, 1, or 2?

      Fry: So let me get this straight. This planet is completely uninhabited?
      Bender: No, it's inhabited by robots.
      Fry: Oh, kinda like how a warehouse is inhabited by boxes.

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      1. Michael Ejercito   3 weeks ago

        What specific anti-trans policies were enacted?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

          Apparently it's anti-trans if you stop kids and teens from cutting off their genitals either physically or chemically.

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        2. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

          Was I too subtle about the fact that they aren't humans but genderless automatons blindly executing a script?

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        3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

          No taxpayer funded cosmetic surgeries?

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  39. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

    "Two men detained by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement appeared in federal court hearings Wednesday, including the Venezuelan national who was shot in the leg by ICE agents last week in north Minneapolis,"

    The guy was shot in the leg after one officer tried to arrest to effect one arrest and the another effectively "unarrested" him until the shot was fired. Allegedly, with the help of others. Now, regardless of whether the one officer was attacked with brooms or shovels or one man tried to arrest another man and a third one showed up and "unarrested" the second guy, that's not a show of force. Specifically the opposite, it signifies to any given group of people, as long as the numbers are large enough, *they* can occupy a space by force as long as they don't carry membership cards.

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    1. damikesc   3 weeks ago

      Amazing how poorly stories get covered by Reason, ain't it?

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  40. Marshal   3 weeks ago

    "Take the show of force off the streets and partner with the state on targeted enforcement of violent offenders instead of random, aggressive confrontation."

    It's ridiculous the people who publicly refuse to work with the Feds later blame the Feds for not partnering with them. Similarly Waltz refers to Feds as the Gestapo and then whines that the Feds need to "tamp down the rhetoric". Left wingers are always escalating and whining that others are not simply accepting them. They're so used to complete control they think it is normal the rules they demand of others shouldn't apply to themselves.

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   3 weeks ago

      It’s amazing how dishonest and hypocritical you can be when the media, including Reason, covers for you.

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  41. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    https://x.com/larryelder/status/2014243859812044968

    Actress
    @PamGrier
    , on
    @TheView
    ’s MLK Day show, said as a young girl growing up in Columbus, Ohio she witnessed a lynching victim “hanging from a tree” that “triggers” her to this day.

    But the Black Holocaust Museum says there’s never been a lynching in Columbus.

    As for the state of Ohio, the Black Holocaust Museum notes the last lynching in Ohio took place in 1911.

    Assuming this is the lynching Grier recalls seeing, she looks FABULOUS for someone pushing 120 years old.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      OR
      She is a lying lunatic.

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      1. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

        Nutty as a fruitcake, but she was so hot with those enormous tits when she was young. Her b-tier blaxploitation movies predated me but I did watch many of them as a teenager on VHS, and was... inspired.

        Now I'm off to Google her topless pics for... nostalgia.

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    2. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      76, somebody may need to read her a list of 5 words and ask her to recall them 5 min. later.

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      1. Kungpowderfinger   3 weeks ago

        Practice drawing 11:10 on a clock face

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  42. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    https://x.com/RonDeSantis/status/2014500133971296434

    The idea that the federal government would require auto manufacturers to equip cars with a “kill switch” that can be controlled by the government is something you’d expect in Orwell’s 1984, and yet…

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      Along those lines, makers are now, apparently, not wanted:
      AN ACT Relating to preventing the unlawful manufacturing of firearms by requiring three-dimensional printers be equipped with certain blocking technologies;

      For all the cries about age verification, facial recognition, and S230. This law is far more invasive and specifically on the lynchpin of "shall not be infringed". Imagine you have to pay a tax and get on a state and/or federal registry, otherwise the phone someone sold you or even potentially that you built yourself, won't let you look at porn (or guns or any other undesirable content) and if you do, you and/or whomever made and sold you the phone is potentially guilty of a felony.

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      1. damikesc   3 weeks ago

        We need to realize that Reason gives few shits about guns when compared to illegals, pot, and butt sex.

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        1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

          That's the thing. Like the NJ law, this isn't a rider or elevation of an underlying charge. Additionally, unlike most of the porn age-verification laws, it's not a per-incident fine and there is no age or other legality exception.

          If your printer doesn't block guns, it's a felony whether you've ever printed a gun with it or not.

          It's about as close as you could possibly get to banning or passing a law to dictate the use of a/the actual printing press without literally banning the printing press in the modern era.

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    2. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

      I wonder if Trump will veto it. I hope so.

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    3. damikesc   3 weeks ago

      57 useless Republicans voted FOR the kill switch.

      Can Trump and Musk make a new party and kill the fucking GOP?

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      1. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

        I think that it's getting to that point. The Better Business Bureau wing of the party never gave a toss about freedom of speech and freedom of Association.

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  43. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

    It's also not clear who exactly should be handling these types of patients.

    If only we had a motivated group of fundamentally maternal, but not quite entirely docile... in fact motivated to take on problems unarmed groupwise... even to the point of stochastic martyrdom... who were willing to actually help address an actual social problem.

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  44. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    https://x.com/realLizUSA/status/2014343180854898820

    @Election_Adv
    details how Georgia covered up the fact that none of the early votes in Fulton County in 2020 were certified

    There were 148 early voting tabulators,
    416 Election Day tabulators
    There should be 1,128 opening and closing ballot scanner tapes

    They turned over 173 — and none were signed

    137 from early voting, 36 from Election Day

    955 missing tapes — including ALL opening tapes from early voting and ALL
    closing tapes from Election Day

    They fabricated the results of 2020 and covered it up

    This case was filed in March 2022, secretly investigated in early 2023, the State Election Board was not told and it wasn’t heard until almost 3 years later

    “How could the Secretary of State monitor miss hundreds of unsigned uncertified ballot scanner tapes?”

    “Who in the Secretary of State’s office received and ignored these unsigned and uncertified and missing ballot scanner tapes?”

    “The tape is the returns…the auditable paper trail, the chain of custody, the prima facie evidence of the results in the ballot box.”

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    1. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

      https://x.com/Shilohmarx/status/2014403203375509545

      Kamala Harris won New Jersey by 252,498 votes.

      New Jersey processed 284,001 online voter registration applications.

      None of the 284,001 online applications required proof of citizenship.

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    2. Longtobefree   3 weeks ago

      Just one state, so not WIDESPREAD fraud.

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

      Looking into voting irregularities is racist.

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  45. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

    These guys are rich, powerful, and retarded.

    https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/2014548161352593551?s=20

    When it comes to the World Economic Forum (WEF), there are two caricatures of the attendees – or “weffers” they like to call themselves.

    In one version, they are mustache-twirling elites huddled in smoke-filled rooms, plotting a one-world government, mass surveillance, and “you will eat ze bugs!”

    In the other, they are cast as saviors: the most powerful people on the planet convening in good faith to solve humanity’s biggest problems.

    This week, @DataInterpretr and I spent quality time with the attendees. We took a different approach than most journalists – we did not ambush them with gotcha questions. Instead, we simply sat at tables, started conversations with staffers and speakers, and asked questions – lots of them.

    What we got was neither caricature, but something much darker – a first-hand perspective of how tyranny is imposed from a ruling class that will swear up and down that they are not part of any ruling class–and that it controls nothing.

    To understand how that dynamic works, we must enter the mind of a weffer.

    First, nearly all of them are either extremely wealthy or employed by people who are. Hotels cost $25,000 a night. Gucci is the default for handbags. Coats fall to the floor, trimmed with mink. And despite the sustainability rhetoric, the menus advertise meat proudly, with few vegetarian options in sight.

    They do not understand that they are perceived as hypocrites. They are aware that some people see them as evil, controlling overlords… and they laugh at the idea, because in their own minds it is absurd.

    @DataInterpretr and I learned this firsthand. We made it a point to ask every weffer we could find what they actually did and what they actually believed. We spoke with senior WEF staffers working directly alongside co-host André Hoffmann, with philanthropy idealists, and with corporate employees.

    First, they do not think in political terms.

    That may seem odd, given the viral clips of figures like Newsom or Macron attacking Trump. But those moments are the exception, not the rule. Most of the people we spoke to do not experience the world as political at all.

    They see the world as small and borderless. They do not think in terms of nations, elections, or sovereignty. They see humanity as a single, undifferentiated mass. And because they think this way, they fail to recognize how consequential their actions are downstream.

    Second, they genuinely do not believe they are controlling anything.

    That may seem implausible, given their infamous “eat the bugs” rhetoric. But in their own minds, they are not issuing directives. They see themselves as tossing ideas into a shared space, a platform where the world’s economic leaders gather to exchange thoughts and explore possibilities.

    This is where the conspiracy theorists get it wrong. The power that flows out of the WEF is not centrally planned. It is emergent.
    No one gives orders. No one needs to. A set of ideas is floated. The same language gets repeated across panels. The same concepts get picked up by consultants, NGOs, and corporate strategy teams. Eventually, those ideas harden into frameworks, metrics, and expectations that shape real-world behavior, without anyone ever feeling responsible for the result.

    This is how tyranny looks in the modern world. It arrives dressed as dialogue, consensus, and expertise. It is imposed by people who sincerely believe they are doing nothing at all.

    The real danger is not that they think they rule the world. It is that they do not realize they already rule it, and feel no responsibility for the effects. They float from topic to topic, from climate to AI to whatever comes next, leaving hardened systems in their wake, while insisting they were only ever talking.

    No masterminds. Just a ruling class that refuses to see itself as one, and a system that converts its casual conversations into permanent constraints on everyone else.

    And that, more than any mustache-twirling fantasy, is what should worry us.

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    1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      They see humanity as a single, undifferentiated mass.

      Right. Airport lounge globalism.

      They don't want to see it as an ideologically diverse federation of Bohemian sovereignties all with ideas that are more or less equally good for themselves or the world. That makes it hard to know that they're right.

      That may seem implausible, given their infamous “eat the bugs” rhetoric.

      Totally plausible. That was their reply and they are who they say they are:
      'We aren't going to force anyone to eat bugs. We're just saying that in the future everyone will eat bugs, own nothing, and like it.'

      The worry is right, but not new. At best, moments of Newsom and Macron notwithstanding, they don't realize they're bulls in china shops or children stomping on ant hills.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

        “I hope the depopulation will occur in a civil and peaceful way” – WEF mastermind and Club of Rome founder, Dennis Meadows

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    2. Rick James   3 weeks ago

      First, they do not think in political terms.

      That may seem odd, given the viral clips of figures like Newsom or Macron attacking Trump. But those moments are the exception, not the rule. Most of the people we spoke to do not experience the world as political at all.

      They see the world as small and borderless. They do not think in terms of nations, elections, or sovereignty. They see humanity as a single, undifferentiated mass. And because they think this way, they fail to recognize how consequential their actions are downstream.

      Fundamentally Christian in their outlook, but passing themselves off as "universal secular"

      This is where the conspiracy theorists get it wrong. The power that flows out of the WEF is not centrally planned. It is emergent.

      It depends on what kind of conspiracy theorist you are. I'm that flavor that notices when a large group of powerful, wealthy people all adjacent to government or in government who have all the same opinions on a wide range of topics-- that things tend to move in one direction, and one direction only.

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    3. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

      This is how tyranny looks in the modern world. It arrives dressed as dialogue, consensus, and expertise. It is imposed by people who sincerely believe they are doing nothing at all.

      Or worse, that they are protecting you from yourself.

      "2 weeks to flatten the curve"

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      1. HorseConch   3 weeks ago

        If we fucked up the kids and drove up crime and overdoses, we were just giving suggestions.

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      2. DesigNate   2 weeks ago

        Pretty sure CS Lewis called it like 100 something years ago.

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  46. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

    Want to have some fun with the anti-ICE dipshits?

    https://x.com/bluelivesmtr/status/2014692696879755266?s=20

    STOP what you're doing - we have a pretty huge update and confession about this whole "Report ICE activity hotline" situation.

    By about 1am, we had reports come in from numerous states that there had been "incidents" at a number of biker bars last night.

    It turns out that "report ICE activity hotlines" had received "tips" about "off-duty ICE agents" drinking at dozens of bars. Those bars just so happened to be biker bars owned or frequented by individuals who haven't always been on the right side of the law.

    ICE protestors were alerted and given the addresses of these bars. According to friends of ours across the country, beta soy boy, gender-fluid communist Meal Team Sixers showed up with their "F-ICE" flags and tried barging into the bars.

    Except... there were no ICE agents drinking there. As a wise man once said... "now you's can't leave".

    To clarify, WE absolutely did NOT report those addresses to the "Report ICE activity hotlines". That's ridiculous, guys. What kind of people do you think we are?

    Nah. We simply provided the "Report ICE activity hotlines" to the good ole' boys that DRINK at those bars and asked them if they wanted to have a fun night.

    Hey leftists... we've been warning you... there would be a time when the people who just wanted to be left alone get off the sidelines.

    Keep going, children. We're in this for the long haul... and we're really, really good at it.

    If you have a phone or fingers to type... you can get in the fight and help protect ICE and law enforcement. Below you'll find the "report ICE activity" hotlines.

    Have fun and blast this thing all over the internet.

    Anti-ICE hotline numbers in the X post for your enjoyment.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

      Fucking. Hilarious.

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    2. Marshal   3 weeks ago

      It's about time someone got creative.

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    3. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

      We're in this for the long haul... and we're really, really good at it.

      Kirsti Noem hinted that interests aligned with ICE are the ones who will wait for days in tree stands.

      I don't know if it's her intent or not, but in some rural circles, this is actually a reference to the... "easily distracted"... portion of the community. There are people you want when you need to grow corn and there are people you want when you need to hunt deer.

      The people who grow corn get up every day, check the weather, till the soil, plant the seed, mow the ditches, mend the fence rows, kill the weeds, harvest the crop, put it in a bin for later, send the rest to market, and repair the machinery for next year. Constantly moving with a daily purpose in service of a larger, long term goal. Maybe somewhat ironically or surprisingly, sitting around bugs them because they've got a day full of stuff to do and have had it coming since the last time they got done 364 days ago and 365 days before that.

      The people who hunt deer show up seasonally, prepared. This year's hunt is the only one that matters. Last year's hunt was last year's hunt. If you have to sprint all season to rake in as many deer as possible, work harder than anybody growing corn works in a year, so be it. If you have to sit all season to bring home one. That's what it takes. Not bringing anything home is not an option. The people growing corn get up every morning and check the weather to figure out whether planting season's over or how far off harvesting season is, deer hunters are tuned in to right now; every pic on their trail cams, the crackle of every leaf the microphones in their ear protection can pick up. They pay attention to all of it. Nothing but attention to pay. The day after the season doesn't matter.

      Naturally, in rural areas where people have survived on both growing corn and hunting deer for centuries, there's a lot of overlap. When there's inclement weather for growing corn or the machinery doesn't need as much repair as it did last year, people who can't sit still will go out and track deer. If you've got long nights of planting seed before it gets too late in the season, people who sit in deer stands will gladly sit on a tractor. As often as not, the pickup truck sitting at the corner of the field normally has a deer rifle in it.

      Suffice to say, if you're so driftless, flippant, and chaotic that the people who prefer or enjoy sitting in a deer stand are comparatively stoic and in it for the long haul, you aren't equipped for this fight and you never will be.

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      1. HorseConch   3 weeks ago

        The good deer hunters don't just show up, though. These protestors are the guy from the city that bought a tag and a gun and shot the first little shitty buck they saw.

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        1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

          These protesters are chemjeff and sarcastic out hunting the bears in the trunks of ICE vehicles.

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          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   3 weeks ago

            ICE trunk bears are especially problematic. They’re likely to be white, after all.

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        2. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

          These protestors are the guy from the city that bought a tag and a gun and shot the first little shitty buck they saw.

          When Dick Cheney shot the judge, a coworker was mocking him over the fact that it was a canned hunt. I said, they're not bad, like fishing in a stocked pond. She replied that it still didn't sound very sporting, like cheating. I said it's a hell of a lot more sporting than picking them up wrapped in cellophane from your grocer's freezer.

          She was born and raised at least partially in The South, so she wasn't entirely AWFL, but she absolutely was a wine mom.

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    4. Gaear Grimsrud   3 weeks ago

      So cool!

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  47. Mickey Rat   3 weeks ago

    "TLDR; under Spanberger, Virginia is looking bluer than ever."

    This is "moderation" as Democrats mean it.

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    1. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

      she is an outright bolshevik.

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    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 weeks ago

      Who could have known! Besides most of us in the comments who dont fall for the bullshit corporate media narratives.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

        Kulak!

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        1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

          They wreck everything...

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      2. damikesc   3 weeks ago

        Explains why the writers here tend to loathe us.

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  48. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

    Is Boem the one who went gay and left his wife or was that another fake liberterian reasoner?

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

      That's Robby.

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    2. ML (now paying)   3 weeks ago

      Boehm was never straight, but Robbie is definitely bicurious.

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    3. Rick James   3 weeks ago

      I'm not exactly sure who you're referring to, but Robby very suddenly came out as a Conservative and left his wife shortly after.

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  49. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

    Liz,

    "No written document memorializes"
    ...
    "Danish officials tell me there have been no direct discussions between Denmark and the US"
    ...
    "Contradictory information"

    Trump even pointed out previously that there's no documented claim to Greenland. I've been around for "pregnancy brain" and post partum sleep loss. It's not a permanent condition.

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  50. Quicktown Brix   3 weeks ago

    Danish officials tell me there have been no direct discussions between Denmark and the US about the possibility of granting the US sovereign parcels of land, and a NATO spokesperson said Rutte did not discuss it with Trump on Wednesday.

    Did you read his book? Apparently there's instructions for stuff like this.

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  51. Marshal   3 weeks ago

    Spanberger positioned herself as a moderate, someone concerned with kitchen-table issues over culture warring

    Did she? I don't recall her doing that, I recall the media (including Reason) claiming that on her behalf so they could continue to pretend there's a meaningful moderate wing in the Dem Party.

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    1. damikesc   3 weeks ago

      Good point. She never said she was much of a moderate. She just came across as a blithering idiot.

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      1. DesigNate   2 weeks ago

        She came off as a psychopath who wouldn’t denounce the guy running for AG for his death texts.

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  52. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

    'Of course, the Trump administration sometimes enjoys creative accounting: They can do a lot of rhetorical twisting about what is encompassed by the term violent.'

    Oh for fucks sake. Whatever Trump might do to expand the concept of "violence" will never come close to the left. Last time I paid attention to their whining, progressive snowflakes claim mean words, unfair thoughts, and endless imaginary catastrophes are all violence. But their arson and assaults are not.

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    1. Super Scary   3 weeks ago

      To the left, words are violence and silence is also violence. There isn't any winning. Simply put, they want you dead.

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      1. I, Woodchipper   3 weeks ago

        don't forget that actual violence is just the voice of the unheard

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   3 weeks ago

      Your speech is violence. Their violence is free speech.

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  53. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

    'the city has allowed rampant mental illness to fester in public and the long-lingering effects of deinstitutionalization'

    Isn't this the definition of modern urban living? That's what makes it so exciting and hip, right?

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    1. Ajsloss   3 weeks ago

      You get used to it. #bigcitycharm

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  54. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

    '"Florida is full," says MAGA-coded gubernatorial candidate James Fishback. "We are not a refugee camp for New Yorkers." But isn't that exactly what states should be?'

    Maybe. But don't libertarians believe in personal responsibility, including consequences for actions? Perhaps Florida should admit people who did NOT vote for Democrats, and force leftists to return to the Blue paradise states they created.

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  55. Eeyore   3 weeks ago

    I like my synthetic fibers and forever chemicals.

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  56. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 weeks ago

    'I've noticed more and more people craving a return to high-quality materials, good craftsmanship, repair over throwing away'

    But no yuppie pretension, right?

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  57. Ra's al Gore   3 weeks ago

    Who thinks the rest of the government is any better?

    The $21 Trillion Question Washington Never Answers
    Trillions Vanish. No One Goes to Jail. And We’re Supposed to Pretend That’s Normal.
    https://tonyseruga.substack.com/p/the-21-trillion-question-washington

    No serious analyst ever claimed that $21 trillion in cash was stuffed into duffel bags and carried out of the Pentagon.

    That straw man was deliberately invented to make the subject laughable. What was documented were supposed unsupported accounting adjustments… entries made to force books to balance without underlying documentation.

    In plain English: the government could not explain where the money went, where it came from, or why the numbers were altered.

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    1. Uncle Jay   3 weeks ago

      The last word any politician wants to hear is "transparency."

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  58. Rick James   3 weeks ago

    Spanberger positioned herself as a moderate, someone concerned with kitchen-table issues over culture warring. Voters are in for a rude awakening: "With her opening act in office, Spanberger rescinded Governor Youngkin's Executive Order No. 47, requiring heightened cooperation with federal immigration authorities," continue the editors.

    That's because immigration is a kitchen-table issue, and she's concerned with that.

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    1. Ajsloss   3 weeks ago

      That's because immigration is a kitchen-table issue, and she's concerned with that.

      As in, that kitchen table won't set and clean itself. She needs an imported class of menial laborers for that.

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      1. mad.casual   3 weeks ago

        "Will they act as surrogates to bear Pete Buttigieg and Meghan Trainor's kids or is this just a 'Women's Rights' kitchen-table issue?" - Man eating his own dinner off a single plate over the sink

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    2. Kungpowderfinger   3 weeks ago

      The Left has always candy coated their horseshit as “common sense” rules and regulations.

      “Kitchen table issues” is new to me, that’s the most creative weasel-speak they’ve created in decades.

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      1. Rick James   3 weeks ago

        "Kitchen-table issues" is a term that's been around for a good while. It was a term mostly used by non-working class, often upper middle class elites in the media (think your run-of-the-mill NPR staffer) created to describe issues that THEY thought regular normies were talking about "at the kitchen table".

        Think listening to NPR while a woman who graduated from Wellesley College and speaks as though her jaw were clenched gives you this definition:

        Kitchen Table Issues

        Kitchen table issues are issues that are of concern to the average person that might be discussed by the family around the kitchen table.

        Examples:
        Jobs, taxes, social security, health care, the economy, etc.

        Then imagine the next news segment being an 11 part series about how a woman is transitioning her 3 yr old.

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        1. Super Scary   3 weeks ago

          "Examples:
          Jobs, taxes, social security, health care, the economy, etc."

          Sort of flies in the face of what I was taught, which is "there are three things you don't talk about in polite company: money, religion and politics."

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  59. Uncle Jay   3 weeks ago

    Minnesota: The land of 10,000 taxes and 10,000,000 useful idiot leftist vermin.

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  60. Incunabulum   3 weeks ago

    Only Vance could got to Minneapolis.

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  61. Think It Through   3 weeks ago

    If you can excuse the totally incompetent messenger

    Cite?

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  62. Incunabulum   3 weeks ago

    >the communities they've entered, but more leniency for those who are nonviolent; Vance, Walz, and the general public are actually all in agreement in terms of deportation prioritization.

    Wolfe, if there are so many of the 'nonviolent' then why is it so hard for the Left to find poster boys who are not, you know, gangsters, rapists, murderers, fraudsters?

    If it's totally not 'targeted removal' and so many of these people have serious criminal records . . . maybe it's because those coming here are bad people and not just 'looking to feed their families'?

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    1. Michael Ejercito   3 weeks ago

      Almost as if thery cheer violent crimes committed by them!

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    2. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

      Refugee: I fled because my family and the people of my village want to kill me for raping my 10 year old niece.

      MN: Asylum seeker fearing for his life if deported. Benefits granted!

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    3. damikesc   3 weeks ago

      Hell, these states do not seem to realize that the illegal rapists, etc tend to hang out with OTHER illegals.

      So, the dragnet is widened by the actions of MN.

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    4. Gaear Grimsrud   3 weeks ago

      I hate to think Liz just being dishonest but the problem is the sanctuary status of MN and Minneapolis. ICE sends detention requests to local authorities so they can arrest illegals upon their release from county jails. If MN cooperated it would eliminate the need for a lot of targeted enforcement on the streets and would greatly reduce confrontations with protesters and rioters. Walz is being investigated for obstructing immigration enforcement among other things and he's afraid that the shit is about to get real. Why Liz would parrot his cynical gas lighting is a mystery to me.

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  63. Incunabulum   3 weeks ago

    >Maybe not refugee camps—people should pay their own way—but competitors, able to attract people who feel poorly served by their current government, who seek a better life

    A better life on welfare? Florida is full - to those who come for a handout.

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  64. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 weeks ago

    "US leaves World Health Organization over handling of COVID-19"
    [...]
    "Effective today, the United states has officially exited the World Health Organization . The White House says the move fulfills President Trump's commitment under an executive order signed one year ago citing the mishandling of COVID-19 and its ongoing lack of reform, accountability & transparency..."

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    1. Vernon Depner   3 weeks ago

      Of course, Trump himself did nothing to protect us from COVID fascism imposed by state governments in his first term.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 weeks ago

        "Of course, Trump himself did nothing to protect us from COVID fascism imposed by state governments in his first term."
        OK, this is confusing. Sarc? An abysmal imbecility not formerly noted?
        Care to join the ranks of the asswipes or offer some (intelligent ?) support for your bullshit. Was he to declare martial law, or are you an imbecilic piece of TDS-addled shit?
        You don't have a lot of wiggle-room and I'd not yet seen you as so abysmally stupid.

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  65. damikesc   3 weeks ago

    "TLDR; under Spanberger, Virginia is looking bluer than ever."

    Reason ASSURED me that she was a moderate.

    Damn you guys are fucking suckers for every Democrat out there.

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    1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

      Reason's DC office has a rat problem.

      Seriously, it is known throughout the neighborhood. Imagine how desperate the staff are to be noticed by anyone.

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  66. Doc Mac   3 weeks ago

    "The presence of protestors alone is not sufficient reason for MPD to respond where ICE activity is occurring," responded a Minneapolis Police Department spokesman.

    It absolutely is a reason: Police should be deployed to protect Minnesotans' 1A rights. Not to judge or agree with protestors but to PROTECT their 1A rights. That's the job that police are supposed to be doing.

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    1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   3 weeks ago

      "...and uphold the Constitution of the United States of America" is more of a guideline than a solemn oath?

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  67. Incunabulum   3 weeks ago

    Oh, and the story about the parent's who let their kid ride his scooter?

    Its all because of the social policies of the Left that Reason keeps defending as 'moderate'. Those CPS workers are 'moderate' leftists and they're just doing this 'for your own good'.

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  68. TJJ2000   3 weeks ago

    But, but, but ... They're "mostly peaceful" protesting and "mostly peaceful" squatting in someone else's home so how DARE you try and remove them from their favorite squatting spot on someone else's nation? /s

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  69. chemjeff radical individualist   3 weeks ago

    There is no line that Trump can cross that you all will not defend. Not one.

    ICE uses a 5-year-old boy as bait to lure his dad out of the house so that they can arrest him, then lie about claiming the boy was abandoned.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/5-year-asylum-seeker-detained-ice-expands-enforcement/story?id=129451987

    They were not even illegal immigrants. They were legally here as asylum seekers.

    Supporting and defending this type of behavior is evil.

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    1. TJJ2000   3 weeks ago

      Where 'seeker'(s) are *entitled* (let me guess; 'a right') to what they 'seek'?
      The 'evil' in denying self-proclaimed entitlement or what?

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   3 weeks ago

        As I said, there is no line. The "pro-family" crowd wants the state to use preschoolers as bait.

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      2. chemjeff radical individualist   3 weeks ago

        You know, it is possible to have a consistent position whereby you believe in closed borders and vigorous enforcement of laws, but also object to specific immoral tactics for enforcing those laws. That would mean that you have a moral conscience. Why don't you try this position?

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        1. TJJ2000   3 weeks ago

          How about that. So 'pro-family' the whole family gets to be deported together.
          Nope. Sorry. Using 5-yr olds to claim 'a right' doesn't work either.
          ...but you "using a 5yr old" to get what you want self-projection is quite obvious.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   3 weeks ago

            Using 5-yr olds to claim 'a right'

            Not what I said. I'm objecting to law enforcement using 5-year-olds as bait to enforce immigration law.

            Tell us, do you think there should be any law enforcement tactic that should be off-limits for enforcing any law?

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            1. TJJ2000   3 weeks ago

              Said or not said. That is who is using the 5-year old as bait.
              Nobody would care otherwise that law enforcement asked one to knock on their own door.

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    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 weeks ago

      Dumbass, they looked after the kid AFTER his father ran from them. His father (some father at that) abandoned his kid to run.

      https://x.com/thereallaine/status/2014763140097916962?s=20

      ‘They cared for him Took him to get something to eat from a drive-thru restaurant. And spent hours ensuring he was taken care of’ — officials give update on 5-year-old ‘detained’ by ICE

      ‘Again, MY OFFICERS did that, not his father,’ who ‘fled,' 'abandoning his child’

      With video from a press conference.

      And they wonder why people here call you Lying Jeffy.

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      1. chemjeff radical individualist   3 weeks ago

        Even if true, what the officer is describing happened AFTER ICE used him as bait, after he was already detained.

        The kid was in the driveway of his house where his family was home. He was not abandoned, he was right there at his house. ICE then used the kid as bait and told the kid to knock on the door in order to try to get the parents.

        "Another adult living in the home was outside and begged the agents to let them take care of the small child, but was refused," officials from Conejo Ramos' school said. "Instead, the agent took the child out of the still-running vehicle, led him to the door, and directed him to knock -- asking to be let in to see if anyone else was home -- essentially using a 5-year-old as bait."

        You fall hook line and sinker for government propaganda.

        Tell us, do you think it is wrong for law enforcement to use children as bait in order to enforce immigration law?

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        1. Vernon Depner   3 weeks ago

          When did you stop raping little boys?

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        2. DesigNate   2 weeks ago

          Sure they did. It’s not like you and your team haven’t been caught lying about incidents with kids for months now.

          Go. Fuck. Yourself.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 weeks ago

            What does boot leather taste like?

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        3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 weeks ago

          If he was in the driveway of his home, how did “officials from Conejo Ramos' school” know what happened, Lying Jeffy?

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 weeks ago

      Haha, this lie was already exposed Lying Jeffy.

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  70. See.More   3 weeks ago

    But isn't that exactly what states should be? Maybe not refugee camps—people should pay their own way—but competitors, able to attract people who feel poorly served by their current government, who seek a better life full of cortaditos and croquetas and cigars and never needing to get a mid-winter spray tan ever again?

    As others have learned, the hard way, many people "fleeing" California or New York because of the State's policies often begin advocating and voting for those same policy preferences where they've landed. Some suggest that they just don't learn.

    I suggest they're intentionally doing it. Once they completely "assimilate" a State, they appear to "flee" just to begin assimilating another. Rinse and repeat until they've achieved a total destruction of western civilization.

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    1. Vernon Depner   3 weeks ago

      International migrants are following the same plan. They don't "flee" the debased and violent cultures they come from; they bring their Shitholian cultures with them.

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