Renee Good Was a Casualty of Trump's Order Against 'Political Violence'
The administration's written policies make it likely that more people like Renee Good will be targets, and victims, of ICE.
Last week in Minneapolis, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jonathan Ross shot and killed Renee Good, who had been blocking traffic with her car. Right away, federal officials claimed Good had tried to run Ross over, characterizing her as a terrorist and implying she got what she deserved.
The video evidence, at the very least, casts doubt on the idea that Ross was in any immediate danger. The FBI is investigating the shooting, even preventing Minnesota police from doing so.
But Good's death is a perfectly foreseeable result of the current presidential administration's written policies, which treat left-wing protesters akin to terrorists and deserving of violent crackdowns.
"Heinous assassinations and other acts of political violence in the United States have dramatically increased in recent years," according to a National Security Presidential Memorandum (NSPM-7) that President Donald Trump signed in September. The order described a "pattern of violent and terroristic activities under the umbrella of self-described 'anti-fascism.'"
Last month, Attorney General Pam Bondi issued a memo to federal prosecutors and law enforcement agencies, containing directives on putting the order into practice. "To fully implement NSPM-7," Bondi directed "all federal law enforcement agencies" to, among other tasks, "compile a list of groups or entities engaged in acts that may constitute domestic terrorism."
To define terrorism, both Trump's order and Bondi's memo conflated violence with activity protected by the First Amendment. Trump listed, as markers of anti-fascist terrorism, ideological beliefs like "anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity." Bondi, on the other hand, gave examples of "domestic terrorism" that included "organized rioting, looting, doxing," and "conspiracies to impede or assault law enforcement."
Assaulting law enforcement deserves little leeway, but "impeding" could be completely nonviolent, and it certainly doesn't rise to the level of terrorism. And yet within hours of Good's death at the hands of a government agent, federal officials—including Vice President J.D. Vance and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem—jumped to the conclusion that Good was a terrorist, seemingly based on nothing more concrete than that she was impeding an ICE operation.
"People who conspire to engage in actual criminal behavior should be investigated, arrested, and prosecuted," Adam Goldstein, an attorney with the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE), wrote in December about Trump's order and Bondi's memo. "But these memos aren't narrowly focused on groups that exist for the purpose of ideologically motivated violence, which act to bring about violence; they broadly condemn particular viewpoints and lay a foundation for a government watchlist of American groups which share those viewpoints."
Trump's order and Bondi's memo set up the exact scenario playing out, in which federal law enforcement officers treat nonviolent protesters as terrorists and expand their dragnet past what the Constitution allows.
As Reason's Jacob Sullum noted this week, the FBI's inquiry into the shooting seems focused on Good's anti-ICE activism—which, Sullum notes, "seem[s] irrelevant" in determining whether the shooting was justified: "At the time, Ross knew nothing about Good's background, so that information could not possibly have influenced his perception of the danger she posed."
In recent days, in fact, six Department of Justice prosecutors resigned over both the government's refusal to investigate Ross and its insistence on instead investigating Good and her widow.
The administration's written policy on left-wing protesters makes it more likely not only that more people like Renee Good will become victims of ICE, but that nonviolent activists will be ensnared in federal prosecutors' investigations.
"It remains unclear whether the [FBI] inquiry in Minnesota will include allegations of domestic terrorism," The New York Times wrote this week. "But if it does, Ms. Bondi's memo could give investigators latitude to move beyond the customary practice of focusing such investigations only on people engaged in or plotting violence."
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Open borders policies and encouragement for left-wing political activism is what led to her death. Zero respect for the law and a sense of entitlement created her perceived immunity from consequences for her violations of law and the rights of others.
Get fucked. You guys encourage her bs and are waving the bloody teeshirt trying to start the next civil war.
No one is happier about Goode's death than the leftist open borders' ghouls at Reason.
You realize that both state and Federal laws state a car hitting a person of law is in fact a criminal act that they can use self defense to counter. these laws have nothing to do with Trump. And Yes video evidence is clear he was hit there is no question along with his medical condition. why does Reason not believe the evidence before their eyes, does Reason close their eyes when shown the video
Exact same playbook with rittenhouse where reason ignored every actual fact including video.
Not sure how they can even claim they support self defense at this point.
Renee Good Was a Casualty of Trump's Order Against 'Political Violence'
This is such a BS take! she was the casualty of weaponized stupidity. She was radicalized by her 'in group' and the Soros funded enablers and made to believe by the press that the righteous cause protester was untouchable by law enforcement. Because of THAT she figured she could just ignore, insult and ultimately speed away disregarding lawful orders to submit to authority... speed away... OVER the avatar of the idea of enemy that was implanted in her brainwashed head.
Useful idiot because they brainwashed her into putting herself in a very volatile, dangerous situation as if all you earn are gold stars and non-lethal non-consequences. The fatal result which - again, is a win for the intifada according to the Hamas playbook.
More of reasons freedom from responsibility. Never any agency. Never any consequence.
Useful idiot is putting it mildly. The people who organized these protests sent Goode out there hoping she would get shot. People like Goode are so stupid they don't understand that.
Ron, you all have access to the videos in Russia no? He easily sidestepped the car, even with a cellphone in his hand filming. His buddy who was trying to jack her is to blame. He escalated the situation. The masks don't help. When people with masks try to break into your car all bets are off. They did not have the right. It was a police matter, not an ICE matter.
I somehow knew Putin was behind this all along. That monster!
No, you dumb cunt. You can’t rationalize your way out of this. She hit him with her vehicle, and reaped the whirlwind. Case closed.
You may fuck off now, m’kay?
Horrible take. She was interfering with ICE so it was ICE's job to remove the obstruction. They tried originally by ordering her out of the car. She refused and drove off. She hit the officer and was shot as a result. Its tragic and avoidable, but still a justifiable shooting.
"People who conspire to engage in actual criminal behavior should be investigated, arrested, and prosecuted,"
The Department of Justice investigating and prosecuting people engaged in criminal conspiracies? The nerve of those guys.
Goode was not killed in an act of protest or civil disobedience. Protesting and civil disobedience means going there and peacefully blocking the road and getting yourself arrested. It doesn't mean blocking the road and then trying to run over the cops when they come to arrest you.
The bottom line is that Reason is fine with any amount of violence and chaos as long as it is done to further the cause of open borders and endless cheap labor. They are principled like that.
Basically. No chance that might harm libertarianism in the long run.
The good thing is that Reason has lost all credibility with most of the libertarian movement.
I'm not convinced she was trying to run anyone over. But that's really not relevant either way. If someone looks like they are going to run you over, you have no access to their intentions and can reasonably conclude that they mean you harm and act as necessary. Even if your intent is just to engage in some civil disobedience, if your actions present a threat to someone, you have to deal with the consequences.
We will never know what she was actually thinking. I agree. I don't think she went there to kill anyone. Like so many other gentry class leftists, she didn't seem to comprehend that there could be consiquences to her actions. I think she thought she could go there and obstruct federal law enforcement and they would just take it and nothing would happen. She really didn't think it was going to get her arrested as crazy as that sounds. Then when she realized they were going to arrest her, she panicked and tried to run away and got herself shot for the trouble.
I blame her because she is an adult and should have known better. I also blame the media and the entire mass culture for creating a class of people, mostly women, who have been coddled and insulated from reality to such a degree. Someone like Goode is totally incapable of accepting that her side lost the election and the other side gets a few of the things they want as a consequence. No, she must always get her way all the time. You can't have a civilization much less a democratic republic with people like that.
Bet I can tell you what the last thing to go through her mind was, though.
Too soon?
After seeing Ross's video I'm more convinced that she intended exactly what she did: clipping him. Obviously we can't guarantee what her intent was, but her facial expression, eye contact, and wheel position all suggest to me that she intended harm or at a minimum held a malevolent disregard for his safety.
As you stated (and Reason keeps denying) her actions justified a lethal use of force. I'm just not going to shed any tears for someone looking for trouble and finding it. That's a Darwin award well earned.
I feel like the Blues Brothers explaining this to the Penguin here...
"You were directly interfering with armed federal agents."
"I said that looked like a bad idea."
"You got shot, and I said, 'Gee, I guess you're up shit creek.'"
This has actually reached the point of insanity.
Lol, she was a 'target' of ice.
Clown world.
The video evidence, at the very least, casts doubt on the idea that Ross was in any immediate danger.
This is 100% a lie at this point.
Seems he was injured, so there is no question he was in danger. I'm not sure he was actually in danger of death, but he didn't know what her intention was, so it was reasonable to treat the situation that way. That's how self defense works. And why you don't fuck around and behave in any kind of threatening way when dealing with someone who is armed.
He got hit by a car causing internal bleeding. If that isn't imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, nothing is. You don't have to actually die to be in danger.
One way to look at a police shooting is what would you expect the person who got shot to do otherwise. For example, in the infamous case where the guy answered the door and the cops were conducting a drug raid at the wrong house and they shot him because they thought the TV remote he had in his hand was a gun, there really isn't anything you could expect the guy to do any differently. In this case, I don't think expecting Goode to stop when the cops tell her to stop and one of them is standing in front of her car is an unreasonable expectation.
"seems" being the operative word. Don't forget that they lied about being stuck in snow and being run over and her being a domestic terrorist when she was just a panicked dissenter. So with all those lies and a video of Ross sauntering off unharmed and you all actually believe it when they say he had "internal bleeding"? What is wrong with you all?
I'm not certain of anything, but it sure looks like he got hit in the available video.
He had internal injuries. So he was absolutely hit.
I’m certain he got hit because I believe my non-lying eyes.
@Heraclitus That's a shit take dude/tte.
Tell me you've never been involved in an intense, high-stress situation and suffered an injury without telling me you've never been.
Adrenaline, shock, and other physiological stress-responses allow humans to briefly perform super-human feats, including "walking off," even catastrophic, injuries temporarily.
There's a DUI check point near my house tonight. I'm going to get a bunch of the homies together and circle and honk and warn everyone approaching the checkpoint. When LE decides they've had enough of my shenanigans, tells me to get out of the car, I'm going to turn my wheels ever-so-slightly away from the approaching cop and drive away.
Me or my widow will report back tomorrow.
If the LEO is well-trained, he will just shoot out your tires.
-jeff
a video of Ross sauntering off unharmed
Cite?
How was she a "target"? ICE would have had nothing to do with her had she not targeted them for harassment and interference and put herself into a stupid and dangerous situation.
She wasn't. She and her partner were following ICE around, harassing them. And, based on the statements / taunts of her partner, on video, this wasn't their first encounter or even first day. As the guy is filming the vehicle and the license plate in particular, she says something along the lines of 'We don't change our plates every day, dude!'
Reasons coverage here has finally become worse than their coverage of Rittenhouse. Bordering on the BLM coverage.
Always defending left activist violence. Never even thinking the lefts violence is a NAP violation.
Can we now start discussing the fact that something has to be done about the democrat party, or will everyone keep pretending I don’t say this here every day?
Ragebait 301 Final Examination grade:
C-
Apply yourself and try harder next time Mr. Lancaster.
She is responsible for her own death.
Amusing story of the day:
FL Democrat Mark Davis, running for Congress, noted on X that the site nazis.us redirects to DHS.
People then noticed that the owner of nazis.us was...Mark Davis. Did not even pay to have godaddy keep his registration private.
Dems are the nut worst.
Lancaster is a casualty of lefty higher education in Journalism.
Good's murder will not go unanswered.
So you are admitting that leftists are terrorists. Good to know.
Tony is too chickenshit to be a terrorist but he'll be more than happy to incite.
I believe the leftist and progressive activists are already privately exclaiming "THANK YOU ! WE HAVE OUR MARTYR"
... so , it has already been answered.
The press is also answering with thanks... ratings and narrative push... a win win!
btw... you use the word 'murder' .... I dont think it means what you think it means.
The good news is they have their martyr. The bad news is no one but dumb white people care about a white lesbian who got into it with the cops. They choose poorly.
Yup. Already tons of videos of all the wokesters doing the
"ummmm please stop using 'say her name' for renee good, that is something reserved for black women, please and thanks"
and the white woman self flagellating that maybe she shouldnt feel as bad because of good's privilege as a white woman, and her white tears maybe wouldn't help right now (this was my favorite, and literally where I think I saw the last hope for white women writ large fade away)
White progressives are in a suicidal empathy spiral that I think they cant recover from
She was not murdered.
She was entertainingly self-defensed.
Jesus. It wasn't murder. Seems clear to me that it was self defense. Even if it somehow weren't legal self defense, it still wouldn't be murder as his intent was presumably (and would be argued to be in court) not to kill her but to stop a real threat that actually existed. There is no question here that he was in actual danger and he had no way to know what her actual intent was.
You want to argue that this was handled badly, fine. But calling it murder is just hyperbole or ignorance.
It was only attempted murder. The brave ICE agent survived her attempt.
But if you want to ‘avenge’ that, come over to Spokane, and we’ll deal with you in a similar manner,
Retarded rhetoric, like your post, got Good killed, and will get more people killed.
The blood is on your hands, and those like you, and its only gonna get worse
He’s commie scum. Blood on his hands is nothing new.
Fuck off commie scum.
They will build her a statue.
How will or might it be answered exactly? Please enlighten.
Maybe some think Ashli Babbitt's murder won't go unanswered, as well.
Who is this?
KAR or Sarcasmic I imagine as they are the ones who tried to pull this in the past.
"People who conspire to engage in actual criminal behavior should be investigated, arrested, and prosecuted,"
Wasn't ICE in the process of arresting this woman for engaging in criminal behavior (blocking the road was obstruction, refusing lawful orders to leave) before she defied the order to get out of her car and then engaged in resisting arrest, reckless driving, assault with a dangerous weapon, etc.?
FIFY
Last week in Minneapolis, U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent Jonathan Ross shot and killed Renee Good, who
had been blocking trafficattempted to run him over with her car.FIFY
a lady just got murdered by the federal government. Are there no libertarians here?
A woman put herself into a situation that resulted in her death.
FTFY.
Libertarians believe in the NAP, which she violated.
I think this is a very easy one for libertarians.
ICE has definitely been over the top on some arrests, and has stepped too far at times. There should be zero times a US citizen is unlawfully detained or beaten. Not cool.
Good's case is just not defensible in any way. Its not great that she got killed, she should have just been arrested. But its a Darwin award. Similar to saying "damn, it really sucks that dude that rubbed himself in steaks and then ran into the Tiger pit got mauled and eaten, but it completely makes sense how it came about"
She put herself there, she impeded the feds purposefully, she and her partner mocked them, then upon being arrested for doing the things she was doing, she didnt listen to the *consistent* commands of "got out of the car" and she recklessly tried to drive away, driving into an agent who responded in basically a split second and shot her.
Libertarians are for personal responsibility and accountability. She fucked around in like 5 different ways, and she paid the price. When im getting a speeding ticket, I keep both hands on the wheel and say yes sir no sir. One would think these Karens would have a little more caution when dealing with "the new Gestapo / SS" as they have called them.
Whats happened is these mentally ill women have had decades of civil rights protests, BLM, the holocaust, nazis, etc all piped into their heads and they think they are going to LARP as le resistance. Consequences arent very fun
"It's wrong to characterize leftists who throw bricks at cars, shoots at ICE and burns elderly Jews on the streets as terrorist"
Well, that's a hell of a take.
Good belonged to an organization called "ICEwatch". Their own playbook shows that they intend to disrupt and target ICE, not to merely observe them. Replace ICE in "ICEwatch" with "black". Get the picture?
The KKK isn't a terrorist organization if all they do is burn crosses in their own backyard. If they obstructed traffic and blow whistles in front of a black church, then their actions become much more sinister. And if a KKK member drove right at a black pastor like Good did on that officer, 100% of the media would call that domestic terrorism.
It does not matter that no one knew Good was part of any organization right at that moment. Because there was an established pattern of violence on ICE, it's more than fair to assume the Good had hostile intention. If I a see a bunch of people with pro pal gear shouting "from river to the sea" I'm going to assume they want to harm Jews, one way or another.
"And if a KKK member drove right at a black pastor like Good did on that officer, 100% of the media would call that domestic terrorism."
100% of the left seems to think the guy who's car got surrounded at Charlottesville and he panicked and drove through the protestors, killing one of them, was a domestic terrorist who did a bad thing.
100% of them also think it is a perfectly rational and just response when surrounded by officers arresting you for a crime.
They dont have principles, they dont have standards, they just have an ideology and anyone who stands in the way of it should be subject to everything they have previously stated was wrong, because its always "by any means necessary" with this cult. There are no rules, only weapons
We truly have entered into some sort of bizzaro world where, apparently it is perfectly acceptable drive into a federal law enforcement operation, obstruct and impede. Strike a federal LEO with enough force to cause internal bleeding and then expect no consequences. This is a textbook case of FAFO.
Reason has jumped the shark.
"Target harassment and violent attacks on any group is wrong, no matter what the cause"
It's not that hard. Really, it's not that hard. No mob should actually bang drums and blow whistles on neighborhood with illegals. No vigilante group should block the entrance of a synagogue. No law enforcement officials should ever live in fear of being gunned down in their own homes by a citizen of his own nation.
Would you want MAGA to do this every time cops came to confiscate guns without warrant? Should Asians riot in ivy schools that filter out Asian applicants? Should Jews seek vengeance on Muslim neighborhoods?
This isn't about ICE anymore. This is about what kind of country or society you want to live in. What kind of country release an illegal alien criminal onto streets, then says "tough luck pal" if he squats in my home? Why pay taxes if the cops just won't even show up anywhere with ICE? what if ICE protesters start burning down homes? What if firefighter can't put it out because there's no water in the reservoir?
What if Korea teamed up with Israel to hunt down Hamas? The police of America will surely protect me from random pro pal gangs from harassing my people for being Jewish patsies, right? If ICE comes to deport someone who threw a rock at me, the libtards will stand down, right?
"Why am I paying taxes for" - this is a question that will rage on among people who actually pay taxes. The Asians in SF have been pondering that for years.
Impeding federal law enforcement is a crime. In fact impeding the local sheriff is a crime. It doesn't matter if you disagree with their enforcement objectives. I'm not happy that this woman was dead but if she had simply left when she was told to she'd probably still be alive. Libertarianism requires personal responsibility and a respect for the rule of law. We don't have to agree with the law but we have to accept the consequences if we defy it.
what a disgusting take. you are a confederate.