Trump's Word Games Can't Conceal the Murderous Reality of His Anti-Drug Strategy
Calling suspected cocaine smugglers "combatants" does not justify summarily executing them.
I have a riddle for you. If we call a drug smuggler a combatant, how many combatants died when SEAL Team 6 killed 11 men on a cocaine boat near Venezuela on September 2?
Zero, because calling a drug smuggler a combatant does not make him a combatant. That reality goes to the heart of the morally and legally bankrupt justification for President Donald Trump's bloodthirsty anti-drug campaign in the Caribbean and the eastern Pacific, which began on September 2 and so far has killed 87 people in 22 attacks.
The September 2 operation is newly controversial because it included a follow-up missile strike that blew apart two defenseless survivors of the initial attack as they clung to the smoldering wreckage. But all these attacks entail the use of deadly force in circumstances that do not justify it.
Trump conflates drug smuggling with violent aggression, saying it amounts to "an armed attack against the United States" that requires a lethal military response. According to that counterintuitive theory, suspected cocaine smugglers are "combatants" who can be killed at will, and their vessels pose a "threat" to national security that can be neutralized only by completely destroying them.
In reality, Americans want cocaine, and criminal organizations are happy to supply it. The government does not approve of that trade, which it has long sought to suppress by interdicting cocaine and arresting smugglers.
Trump, who accurately calls that approach "totally ineffective," thinks killing suspected drug couriers, from a distance and in cold blood, will achieve the impossible goal of preventing Americans from consuming politically disfavored intoxicants. He is wrong about that. But even if he were right, the goal of disrupting and deterring drug smuggling would not justify summarily executing criminal suspects without legal authorization or any semblance of due process.
That is why Trump claims the U.S. military is at war with "narco-terrorists." But the "non-international armed conflict" that Trump perceives does not fit the legal definition of that term and has not been recognized by Congress.
The resulting violence is so one-sided that the government's lawyers claim blowing up suspected drug boats does not qualify as "hostilities" under the War Powers Resolution because U.S. personnel face no plausible risk of casualties. So we are talking about an "armed conflict" that does not involve "hostilities" yet somehow does involve enemy "combatants," albeit combatants who are not actually engaged in combat.
The debate about the September 2 attack underlines that point. Adm. Frank M. Bradley, who commanded the operation, reportedly told lawmakers the boat was heading for Suriname—i.e., away from the United States—with cocaine ultimately destined for Europe or Africa.
Even if you accept the preposterous premise that transporting cocaine is equivalent to an "armed attack," it is hard to see how this boat posed any sort of threat to the United States. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth nevertheless deemed it a legitimate military target, and he says Bradley "made the correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat."
According to Hegseth, that "threat" remained even after the capsized bow was all that remained of the boat. Bradley decided he had to kill the two helpless, unarmed survivors because he thought they could have tried to recover whatever cocaine might have remained on the wreck.
Sen. Tom Cotton (R–Ark.), chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, avers that the flailing men were "trying to flip the boat" so they "could stay in the fight." But there was no "fight" to stay in because neither those men nor the nine others were attacking U.S. military personnel or any other American targets.
Although the Defense Department's Law of War Manual says "orders to fire upon the shipwrecked would be clearly illegal," Cotton claims the survivors were not truly "shipwrecked" because part of their boat remained afloat and may have contained salvageable cocaine. The logic of Trump's murderous anti-drug strategy effectively blesses what the law of war theoretically prohibits.
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Butt the Demon-Crap-Blessed war in Vietnam led to the My Lai massacre! LBJ's war!!! So Demon-Craps did shit first and did shit worst!!! Where was JS and tReason.cum during the My Lai massacre!?!?!? They have NEVER said NUTHIN' 'bout the My Lai massacre! The HYPOCRITES!!!
So needless to say, the massacres of Dear Orange Caligula are TOTES OK, for THAT LBJ-based reason, AND, simply because Dear Orange Caligula's anti-drug, pro-health, pro-American motives aren't just GOOD, they are GREAT! Dear Orange Caligula's massacres will make America GREAT again, obliviously!
The My Lai massacre? Papered over by sacrificing the career of Lt. Calley, and slapping his hand! If the Demon-Craps MAKE us find a scapegoat, why don't we just... Hang Mike Pence? Yeah, THAT'S it!!!
It appears you have fallen under the spell of sarcasmic the Enchanter again.
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“I have a riddle for you. If we call a drug smuggler a combatant, how many combatants died when SEAL Team 6 killed 11 men on a cocaine boat near Venezuela on September 2?”
This isn’t how riddles work dude. You should take a break. Maybe go south for a week and get some sunlight.
Sullum is hoo stupid to realize his "logic" also means the Osama Bin Laden raid was murder, but then again he seems fine with every extrajudicial killing done by Democrats, even if it's US citizen children.
And SJIN is too stupid to realize that there is no logical connection between Osama bin Laden and illegal drug dealing.
These are the people our antidrug policy is protecting from drugs.
Dr. Lonny Shavelson in his book "Hooked" said that 70% of female heroin addicts had been sexually abused in childhood. Addiction is a symptom of PTSD says Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine Eric Kandel in his book, "The Disordered Mind." That would include veteran PTSD. Keeping drugs from veterans with severe PTSD is especially important.
Is that why Trump's Secretary of Healh self-proscribed heroin for ADHD , ans sold drugs in college?
Sullum should go south and have some fun. Maybe rent a speedboat and let loose.
JS;dr
It's more than one a day now. He needs an intervention.
VD;dr. VD (Venereal Disease) is some BAD shit! Go see the Dr. if you've got the VD!!! THAT is why I say VD;dr.!!!
(Some forms of VD also cause bona fide mental illness… THINK about shit! VD is NOTHING to "clap" about!)
JS;dr. This obsession is really bizarre.
This is what happens when his supply chain gets cut.
Approximately 21,000 Americans have died of overdose since the first word play about drug boats. I'm not a fan of bombing them, but they're still suffering less loss of life than the end users by huge magnitudes.
So you're saying the war on drugs is justified because drug dealers murder drug abusers? You couldn't be that stupid, even if you play pretend word games ...
The war on drugs is justified because drug dealers murder drug abusers.
Do drug abusers treated by doctors with adequate supplies of medicine get murdered by their doctors? What is wrong with giving people in pain pain relief?
Dr. Lonny Shavelson in his book "Hooked" said that 70% of female heroin addicts had been sexually abused in childhood. Addiction is a symptom of PTSD says Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine Eric Kandel in his book, "The Disordered Mind." That would include veteran PTSD.
No, but I'm saying something needs done, and blowing up some cartel members is far less tragic than the hand they're dealing. I'm not on the if it saves just one life bandwagon, but we're losing about twice as many citizens to drugs annually as we lost in Vietnam.
The Drug War is a government creation. They KNOW. "Hooked" was written 25 years ago.
Dr. Lonny Shavelson in his book "Hooked" said that 70% of female heroin addicts had been sexually abused in childhood. Addiction is a symptom of PTSD says Nobel Prize Winner in Medicine Eric Kandel in his book, "The Disordered Mind." That would include veteran PTSD.
Are the cartels limiting the damage that they cause the USA to simply smuggling drugs into the USA? Or do they commit other serious crimes such as murder, rape, smuggling weapons and people and other serious crimes?
The cartels are a creation of government. Prohibition laws. If they are doing these other things - our government wants them. Other wise they would put the cartels out of business.
"We're losing badly the war on drugs," he said. "You have to legalize drugs to win that war. You have to take the profit away from these drug czars." - Donald Trump at the Miami Herald 1990 Company of the Year Awards luncheon.
The cure ? Doctors supervision, pharmacy medicine.
That's not a cure; it's management. We don't have a cure.
Doctors supervision and pharmacy medicine will stop most of the over dose deaths. You want an absolute cure? Hospitalization.
We have 21,000 bid on a real basis of 13,000.
Will anyone bid 300,000,000 , as Trump did a few weeks ago?
Fuck off and die, and take your fake website with you.
Sullum's bullshit can't conceal that he's a steaming pile of lying TDS-addled shit who should fuck off and die.
He should immediately declare a war on sugar, because sugar kills far more people per year in America than cocaine ever has. That would make sugar importers "enemy combatants" and blowing up cargo ships full of sugar would fill the ocean with caramel.
Do you also post under the name chemjeff?
Replace "Trump" with Clinton, Obama, Biden, or Harris and imagine what this article would be saying.
So you're saying that "Reason" should always criticize Clinton, Obama, Biden and Harris whenever they criticize Trump in an article? Why shouldn't they also criticize Bush whenever they criticize Trump, Osama, Biden, Clinton and Harris?
Nice strawman argument. I'm saying the standard should be the same. Under Sullum's logic, President Obama committed murder when he said Seal Team 6 take out Osama Bin Laden. Of course, Sullum is fine with what Obama did but that is a double standard. Both used the military to execute people knowingly connected with killing Americans and with plans to kill more Americans. Trump's killing of narcoterrorists is just as justified as Obama's killing of Bin Laden.
He is a lying pile of TDS-addled steaming shit, ain't he?
Simp0328: "I am too stupid to understand the difference between a drug smuggler moving drugs between two non-US countries and the leader of a terrorist organisation still at war with the US who is directly responsible for the deaths of 3000 people"
I am too stupid
Thank you for your admission.
Simp0328: "I am too stupid"
Thank you for your admission - and that you don't understand how punctuation works
Cultists: "war crimes are ok when committed by the Trump regime. And how dare Reason criticise Dear Leader without listing all the other times presidents supposedly committed war crimes"
TDS-added steaming piles of shit: "I'll just make up a lie since I hate trump as much as I do."
Thank you for admitting your hate has no basis in reality.
defend the ... scrolls up ... drug smugglers at all costs!
You obviously don't understand the difference between defending laws and defending alleged violators. It seems to be a common theme amongst modern conservatives or cultists - that to insist that laws be followed when the regime's henchmen and henchwomen are violating them is somehow the same thing as defending the people on the other side. It's the same category of thought that would deny a convicted murder an appeal based on prosecutorial abuses like jury stacking or accepting perjured testimony on the grounds that the appellant is a murderer, and so supporting his appeal on legal grounds is somehow defending a killer.
Killing go fast boat drivers runs a non zero risk of some cartelist remembering what one ton of illicit cargo did to the USS Cole.
Posting care-troll bullshit isn't anywhere close to your lying about CLIMATE CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck off and die and take your fake website with you, asswipe