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MAGA Asceticism

Plus: Social media surveillance from the CBP, SpaceX IPO, assisted dying in the Netherlands, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.10.2025 9:30 AM

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Trump's affordability tour: "You know, you can give up certain products. You can give up pencils," said President Donald Trump at a speech in Mount Pocono, Pennsylvania, that was supposed to help alleviate people's worries about affordability and help Republicans figure out salient messaging ahead of the midterms.

What a fascinating tack to take.

"You always need steel. You don't need 37 dolls for your daughter," he continued. "Two or three is nice, but you don't need 37 dolls. So, we're doing things right. We're running this country right well."

"I can't say affordability is a hoax because I agree the prices were too high. So I can't go to call it a hoax because they'll misconstrue that," said Trump. "But they use the word affordability. And that's the only word they say. Affordability. And that's their only word. They say, 'Affordability.' And everyone says, 'Oh, that must mean Trump has high prices.' No. Our prices are coming down tremendously from the highest prices in the history of our country."

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In a sense, this is true: Inflation reached its year-over-year high in June 2022, during Joe Biden's presidency, when it broke 9 percent. It has since been tamed. But the Trump economy is rather, uh, bad. And it's unforced errors all the way down: Tariffs aren't necessary or wise or especially conservative (though he's worked on rebranding them as such). The economic hardship imposed wipes out any revenue gains, and then some. "The Trump tariffs amount to an average tax increase per US household of $1,100 in 2025 and $1,400 in 2026," report Tax Foundation's Erica York and Alex Durante. They continue, "The Trump tariffs are the largest US tax increase as a percent of GDP (0.47 percent for 2025) since 1993." Many companies will choose not to do business in the U.S., and many U.S. businesses that relied on foreign imports will have to change their methods or simply shoulder higher costs that will inevitably be passed on to consumers. Some will just close up shop.

Trump, in his Pennsylvania speech, displays approximately zero self-awareness and shares no admissions of guilt: "I mean, the only thing that is really going up big, it's called the stock market and your 401(k)." But people aren't fools. They see the rise in grocery prices reflected in their household budgets; the fact that it's harder to get goods to arrive on time; the fact that large manufacturers are now running into real supply chain issues (after a summer and fall of stockpiling that made it so most consumers didn't feel the tariff effects until somewhat recently). Is the rhetorical approach of "you can just give up things you want" actually a winner? Trump seems to think so. Color me skeptical.

Social media surveillance for visa-free visitors: U.S. Customs and Border Protection is going to start "adding social media as a mandatory data element" that they consider when screening people entering the country under the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens of places like Australia, Germany, Japan, and the U.K. to enter visa-free.

This raises questions. Can you just pretend you don't have social media accounts? What exactly would they find disqualifying? Also, is this really the highest and best use of these agents' time? Attempting to very tightly control who enters this country would make sense if we had some sort of massive wave of radicalism and extremist violence fomented by people from these places who are entering via the Visa Waiver Program—but we don't. We don't even have much of an issue with these passport holders overstaying their visas. Like so many things the Trump administration does, it's a solution in search of a problem.

The new screening "would apply to travelers from about 40 countries who can stay in the US for up to 90 days without a visa and are screened before travel under an electronic system known as ESTA," reports Bloomberg. It's "the latest in a series of measures from the Trump administration aimed at restricting entry," including "a planned travel ban for around 30 countries announced this month following the shooting of two National Guard members in Washington." But the suspect in that shooting, keen observers might note, was not visiting from Germany or Australia; he was "an Afghan national who worked with US forces and the CIA in Afghanistan before arriving in the US in 2021."


Scenes from New York: 

the rapid rise of "private members clubs" in new york is a useful phenomena to watch. these clubs aren't "private" in any real sense, they simply exist to enforce norms (don't overhear people, don't photograph people, no fighting) that were enforced societally but are no longer https://t.co/rga8oHKfrb

— Will Manidis (@WillManidis) December 2, 2025


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    Trump's affordability tour

    The toilets are only gold-plated.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    You know, you can give up certain products. You can give up pencils...

    When children in America are going hungry for deodorant no one needs 14 different kinds of writing implements.

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    1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   24 hours ago

      Who knew Bernie was this prescient?

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

        As prescient as Tim Walz?

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        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 hours ago

          And as retarded?

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    You always need steel. You don't need 37 dolls for your daughter...

    Is Trump trying to turn America's girls into boys?

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

      Bennington College on line 1...

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  4. DaveH   1 day ago

    Pleeze Liz: Get with Econ 1. Reduced inflation doesn't mean prices are falling. It just means they aren't rising as fast as they were before. But they're still rising.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

      Which is sadly rhe plan for the American economy of 2% inflation. This is the goal of globalists as well. Using the reserve currency status to export inflation.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 day ago

        Destruction of the dollar is the stated goal of the FED.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

          Destruction of western industrial society is the stated goal of the WEF.

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          1. Dillinger   22 hours ago

            if you don't eat ze bugs now zey will only cost more later.

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        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 hours ago

          And one of my goals is the destruction of the Fed.

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

      And yet, where I live, gas is a lot cheaper now than it was a year ago. Groceries are cheaper. Bought a small prime-rib roast last week because it was AFFORDABLE for the first time in ages. Groceries do seem to be using the false marketing of having a high price but always being on sale, like chips say $6.95 on the bag, but are always on sale 2/$7 or better.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 day ago

        Yeah expenses are going down for me also. But I'm not buying a new car or trying to rent an apartment in Manhattan. Affordability means different things to different people but the answer always seems to be free shit from the government.

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      2. HorseConch   24 hours ago

        Yea, here in red state America, about the only thing I'm noticing being much higher is insurance and property taxes. Property and auto insurance are killers, but just about everything else has maintained or decreased.

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    3. Mother's Lament   23 hours ago

      "Reduced inflation doesn't mean prices are falling. It just means they aren't rising as fast as they were before."

      That was straight from the school of Sarcascmic economic analysis.

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  5. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    Oddly the USSC case discussing executive firings is not being discussed by reason. Gorsuch nailed the petitioner about presidential powers to fire.

    Gorsuch: You agree that [a president] has a duty to faithfully execute all the laws?

    Agarwal: Yes.

    Gorsuch: Civil and criminal?

    Agarwal: We … agree that the Constitution imposes … on the president a duty to faithfully execute the laws, absolutely.

    Gorsuch: All the laws?

    Agarwal: Well …

    Gorsuch: All — are there some laws he doesn’t have to? That would be news to our friends across the street.

    Agarwal: The take care clause is a duty, and it is also a power, but the text of the clause does not provide that the president must have at-will presidential —

    Gorsuch: I didn’t ask that. This is: does he have a duty to faithfully execute all the laws? … Yes or no?

    Agarwal: I would say no, in the sense —

    Gorsuch: No?

    Agarwal: — in the sense … Let me … — there’s two different questions, and I want to make sure that I’m answering the questions.

    Gorsuch: The question is: does the President have a duty to faithfully execute all the laws? The answer is ‘no,’ why?

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/09/justice-gorsuch-exposes-attorneys-illogical-defense-of-unchecked-bureaucracy/

    Then KBJ does her usual not understanding the constitution and asks why we cant be ruled by unelected experts.

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/08/justice-jackson-downplays-unelected-experts-running-the-executive-without-presidential-oversight/

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      Jackson is doing more damage to black people than the KKK.

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      1. HorseConch   24 hours ago

        Did the KKK get to be in Hamilton?

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        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   19 hours ago

          I don’t know about that, but I do know that if you take mass transit into a large urban area to see Hamilton you can use this as a currency of sorts to write off your culture war violations and white privilege.

          I learned that here.

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

        Keeping Democrats number one in destroying black people!

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        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 hours ago

          Keeping democrats number one has forced blacks to eat a a lot of number two. From slavery, to Jim Crow, to generational welfare and the destruction of their families.

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

      Piling on:

      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/amy-curtis/2025/12/09/ketanji-meltdown-no-kings-n2667586

      Check Out Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson's 'No Kings' Meltdown

      "Some issues, some matters, some areas should be handled in this way by non-partisan experts that Congress is saying that expertise matters with respect to aspects of the economy, and transportation, and the various independent agencies that we have," Brown Jackson said. "So having a president come in and fire all the scientists, and the doctors, and the economists, and the PhDs, and replacing them with loyalists and people who don't know anything is actually not in the best interests of the citizens of the United States."

      These issues should not be in presidential control," Brown Jackson continued, "so can you speak to me about the danger of allowing in these various areas the president to actually control the transportation board, and potentially the federal reserve and all these other independent agencies. In these particular areas, we would like to have independence. We don't want the president controlling."

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 day ago

        The only way to save democracy is to put unelected experts in control.

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      2. Its_Not_Inevitable   23 hours ago

        "'we would like to have independence. We don't want the president controlling.". Hmmm....who's we?

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        1. Mother's Lament   23 hours ago

          She identifies herself as part of "we". Perhaps she ought to be impeached for claiming powers that are not hers.

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    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      KBJ, the Kamala Harris of the Supreme Court.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 hours ago

        She doesn’t seem to be as drunk.

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        1. Neutral not Neutered   18 hours ago

          No that's true, KBJ is more step drunk. Like fell down the steps on her head too many times.

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    4. Dillinger   22 hours ago

      >>Oddly the USSC case discussing executive firings is not being discussed by reason.

      Damon is still too confused to write it up

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    5. Dillinger   22 hours ago

      squirrels lol

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  6. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection is going to start "adding social media as a mandatory data element" that they consider when screening people entering the country...

    We've seen it's easier to use that criteria to deny entry than to try to deport them later when they start hassling the Jews and working against the country they just entered.

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    1. mamabug   23 hours ago

      That Europe and Australia have become hot beds of both Islamist and Antifa activity is a fact completely glossed over in Liz's scoffing.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

        And the fact that the Australian government sent a letter to a US-based company telling them to follow Australian law even though they don’t operate in Australia.

        https://x.com/prestonjbyrne/status/1998221470020030712?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

        A client got their first letter from Australian eSafety.

        This was our reply. The US government was copied.

        [letter in X link]

        Australia presents, to the United States, the exact same threat that the UK and EU do.

        The timing is not coincidental. All three sovereigns programmed their regimes to come online at the same time.

        We have a very short window, as a country, to shut it down.

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        1. Mother's Lament   22 hours ago

          "I thank you for your email with the word "OFFICIAL" stamped at the top in bright red"

          Lol.

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    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      Hey, if we can use social media posts to ostracize, fire, and otherwise cancel undesirable citizens, we can use social media posts to screen Nazi tourists. We are focused on Nazi tourists, right?

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  7. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    Half of Netflix kids shows have LGBTQ content.

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/12/09/nearly-half-of-netflix-kids-shows-expose-children-to-lgbt-propaganda-report/

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    1. Minadin   1 day ago

      https://notthebee.com/article/we-voted-for-this-lgbtq-advocacy-group-warns-almost-half-of-gay-characters-on-tv-are-being-eliminated-from-shows-this-year

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      1. HorseConch   23 hours ago

        They started by genociding the trannies and now they're going to genocide cartoon characters, too. Is nothing in America sacred these days?

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      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 hours ago

        Good. Now get rid of the other half.

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  8. Minadin   1 day ago

    (after I take a brief hiatus for the month of January to welcome/wrangle my second baby)

    Slacker.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 day ago

      So then we’re going to be subject to the idiocy of Britches, Boehm, or ENB. Great.

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      1. Minadin   24 hours ago

        Maybe they could get Stossel, Heaton or Soave to step in for a guest spot.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   24 hours ago

          Oh sure, let the men take over..

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          1. Minadin   23 hours ago

            Fine, we can have Rommelmann sub for a month. Happy?

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

              Gotta be careful there. She’s started denying Antifa exists during the siege in Portland.

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              1. Minadin   22 hours ago

                I think that was more of a personal safety countermeasure.

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              2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   17 hours ago

                That narrative is getting crimped in light of the guilty pleas in Texas recently.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   24 hours ago

          I’d like to see one from Lenore. She’s rather consistent on what she talks about, and let’s be honest, she’s definitely freedom oriented.

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          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

            So, barely tolerated at Reason?

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      2. Fats of Fury   18 hours ago

        The B-Team.

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  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    DOGE is still active.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/another-222-million-saved-terminated-contracts-doge

    For a site that claims to want cuts, they sure ignore the cuts. Even complaining about cuts like in the prior wind power article.

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 day ago

      They were talking about it (not in a positive way), then one day there was an article saying it was over and it was never mentioned again.

      That’s what independent journalism looks like.

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      1. Gaear Grimsrud   24 hours ago

        If Doge can't payoff 37 trillion in debt in the next fiscal year there's really no point.

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        1. Mother's Lament   22 hours ago

          IF YOU CAN'T END ALL THE GRIFT AT ONCE THEN DON'T EVEN BOTHER.

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        2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   21 hours ago

          37 trillion , But only while observing interagency protocol.

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    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      "For a site that claims to want cuts, they sure ignore the cuts."

      Now what site would that be?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

        No idea, but they’re run by a big Koch.

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  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    New database dropped of all the Maryland fathers and fishermen being supported by jeffsarc and reason.

    https://www.dhs.gov/wow

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    1. Minadin   1 day ago

      Convicted of:
      Second-degree murder, Third-degree felony assault
      Arrested:
      Minneapolis, Minnesota
      Name:
      Aldrin Guerrero-Munoz

      That's a traditional Somali apellido, right?

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      1. Mother's Lament   22 hours ago

        To be fair, a lot of that stuff is just Saturday night for Sarcasmic.

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        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

          Don’t forget the sex trafficking charges. As Sarc traffics himself to a glory hole for extra booze money when his welfare runs out.

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  11. Social Justice is neither   1 day ago

    Why would anyone listen to an academic economist on anything? They're part of the social sciences and their reproducibility rate for "rigorous" research reflects that. Ultimately, they"re just cherry picking data that tells them the story they want to hear when it comes to cultural topics and sometimes that coincides with reality, often not.

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  12. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    BBC admits to even more false claims regarding trump that they made. Continue to claim this wasn't due to bias.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/12/09/bbc-admits-falsely-claiming-trump-wanted-to-shoot-critic/

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    1. Mother's Lament   22 hours ago

      They're right, it wasn't due to bias. It was due to animus.

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    these clubs aren't "private" in any real sense, they simply exist to enforce norms (don't overhear people, don't photograph people, no fighting) that were enforced societally but are no longer

    Uh-oh.

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  14. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    Jeff hardest hit.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/12/supreme-court-rejects-bid-to-overturn-texas-book-bans-library-may-remove-lgbtq-books/

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   24 hours ago

      Why do you hate Snow White, hmmmmm?

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

        Wait, I thought we are supposed to hate Snow White, at least the helpless white female waiting-for-a-prince version. Maybe you mean the strong black trans kick-you-in-the-nuts version.

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

          Where’s Jeffy to help us with this answer?

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          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   20 hours ago

            If we don't let children read books about my two daddies, why is it okay to allow them to read books such as Snow White, a tale of non-consensual sexual assault - the Prince assaults Snow White as she sleeps - in which Snow White was ruffied by a jealous madam. How is that okay and gay people not? - Uncle Jeff

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            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   18 hours ago

              Classic retardation. Where is that on the Walz scale?

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              1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

                At least Walz +6.

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            2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

              They can also read about how abortion is a ‘superpower’

              https://shoutyourabortion.com/product/abortion-is-everything-book

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            3. chemjeff radical individualist   15 hours ago

              I never said or wrote that.

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              1. Outlaw Josey Wales   52 minutes ago

                Ha. You did though. It was a while back. A 'why shouldn't gay teachers be open with their really young students about their sex lives/partners' discussion.

                It's also a paraphrased summation not a quote.

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        2. shadydave   23 hours ago

          weird, weird

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  15. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    after I take a brief hiatus for the month of January to welcome/wrangle my second baby

    AND YET THEY STILL WANT TO BE PAID LIKE A MAN

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  16. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

    these clubs aren't "private" in any real sense, they simply exist to enforce norms

    And keep out foreigners.

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  17. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    "SpaceX is moving ahead with plans for an initial public offering that would seek to raise significantly more than $30 billion...

    Would probably be a good horse to bet on.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      At least until Obama gets elected for the 4th time.

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    2. Mother's Lament   22 hours ago

      If SpaceX succeeds in its mission to colonize Mars, then its worth would be incalculable.

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    3. DRM   19 hours ago

      Bloomberg is almost certainly full of shit.

      A few days ago, there was a similar claim in the Wall Street Journal that SpaceX was going to do a secondary share sale at $800B followed by a 2026 IPO. To which Musk said on X that, to the contrary, SpaceX has been buying back private shares.

      And the Bloomberg report includes the line "as SpaceX firmed up its latest insider share sale", which directly contradicts Musk's claim that SpaceX is doing buybacks instead of sales. The Bloomberg report accordingly seems to be merely a recapitulation of the slightly-older, explicitly-denied reports.

      Which, well. Why would SpaceX go public? It's currently quite profitable. Starship development is, to all outward appearances, fully funded. SpaceX hasn't demonstrated any difficulty recruiting talent, so they don't need to offer people easily-monetizable stock options. Musk doesn't currently seem to need a bunch of cash for some unrelated reason. And any non-Musk investors who need cash could take advantage of the buybacks.

      Building data centers in space, like Bloomberg's article suggested? That doesn't need massive R&D money; every Starlink satellite is a de facto prototype.

      I mean, I get why a bunch of finance fuckers on Wall Street would wish SpaceX would go public; they would make money and benefit from related-businesses frenzy. But if you don't need money, going public is pure hassle.

      The only non-monetary reason to go public is that the shareholder count has grown to the point where the public reporting threshold is met anyway, so you're going to have the hassle anyway. Maybe SpaceX is nearing that, but no reports are claiming that as a motive.

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    4. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

      I’ll wager 400 quatloons on the newcomer.

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  18. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    For how many writers are in NYC they sure miss all the NY censorship.

    A copy of James' letter obtained by Fox News Digital included the following statements:

    "Unfortunately, some board members have made, and encouraged, comments during board meetings that demean and stigmatize LGBTQ+ students. These comments have included attacks on school support for LGBTQ+ student groups and on transgender and gender-expansive students’ rights to use facilities, including restrooms and locker rooms, or participate on school athletic teams consistent with their gender identity—rights that remain firmly embedded in state law."

    It later added, "… board members that they may be removed from office when they willfully neglect their duty or violate legal protections for students in their districts… Under the First Amendment, school board meetings are considered limited public fora. This means that school boards that allow public comment "may make reasonable, viewpoint-neutral rules governing the content of speech allowed," including prohibiting all comments on a particular topic that would have discriminatory, harassing, or bullying effects …

    "Removal of a board member is a drastic measure, but even an unsuccessful application for removal may pose a financial burden to schools and an unwelcome distraction from school boards' important work."

    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/letitia-james-sued-allegedly-threatening-school-board-members-debating-trans-athletes-locker-rooms

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      'an unwelcome distraction from school boards' important work'

      Pushing Marxist-trans-feudalism?

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    2. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

      Will she win election again?

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  19. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    "A social panic has set in over how smartphones and social media are destroying us and ruining our children," writes Tyler Cowen in The Free Press. "The thing is, after much rigorous investigation, the harms are relatively small...."

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      It’s bad, but not as bad as you think…

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  20. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    Scenes from the UK regarding 2 Afghan illegals raping a 15 year old.

    Joshua Radcliffe, representing Niazal, said that the teenager had gone through the “trauma” of seeing his father murdered by the Taliban and fled to escape the regime.

    “There are cultural differences,” he added. “He is not used to a society where women are free and deemed equal to men. He is not used to a society where alcohol is freely available. He is morally at sea. There are massive cultural barriers that have become massive moral barriers.” He suggested that the rapist could still be able to “make a life for himself in this country” when he is released.

    https://www.thetimes.com/uk/crime/article/afghan-teenagers-raped-15-year-old-arrived-boats-2d9wj5sfv

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      Or we could send him back so he won’t be so uncomfortable.

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    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

      Harkens back to the classic:

      Eight of the nine men convicted of raping a 15-year-old girl in 2020 will not face jail time, according to German news outlet NIUS.

      […]

      The German outlet noted that the 11 indicted suspects represented a range of nationalities. Four were German, while others hailed from Kuwait, Poland, Egypt, Libya and Iran.

      A female psychiatrist testifying on behalf of the defendants argued that their alleged gang rape was a “means of releasing frustration and anger” stemming from their “migration experiences and socio-cultural homelessness,” according to the Hamburger Morgenpost.

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      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

        Ah, the progressive oppressed emotional victim defense.

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        1. Michael Ejercito   23 hours ago

          What ideology belies this?

          Surely not liberalism?

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    3. mad.casual   24 hours ago

      He is morally at sea.

      [keys mic] Predator Drone Rambo two-three you are cleared hot... morally.

      [kisses fingers, taps "Bordurz iz konstruktz!" banner]

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    4. chemjeff radical individualist   23 hours ago

      Why is it that you seem to focus on crimes committed by foreigners? Afghans, Somalis, etc. And they tend to be especially lurid and violent crimes, like rape. Why is that?

      Could it be that you see a crime committed by an Afghan to be worse than a crime committed by a native-born citizen, even if the offense is the same?

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   23 hours ago

        God you're dumb.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

          He is, but in this case he’s being intentionally obtuse. He’s very dishonest.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

            I read that as “intellectually obese” for some reason.

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            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   21 hours ago

              Makes sense, in an odd way.

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        2. HorseConch   23 hours ago

          He may be too stupid to consent.

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        3. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

          "God you're dumb

          No. He's evil. He's not arrived at his rhetoric from an honest but misguided stance. He knows exactly what he's pushing.

          Exhibit A:

          chemjeff radical individualist   9 months ago
           Flag CommentMute User

          You want to get graphic? Fine.

          What about the semen that is found on the woman's shirt? Is that the result of rape? Or is that the result of some guy jacking off while watching? That's gross and possibly illegal but not the same as rape. Should this guy be punished the same as a rapist?

          What about the semen from the guy who regretted it and showed remorse, and the semen from the guy who didn't? Should they get the same punishment?

          And let's keep in mind that they are minors with ethical codes that are not fully developed. That is the whole reason why we don't try minors as adults for the crimes that they commit.

          But you don't really give a shit about the details of any of this evidence, do you? Standards of justice that ought to apply to native-born citizens don't apply to those migrants, because "everybody knows" they are just violent thugs anyway. Any bit of evidence that connects any one of them to the crime is good enough to justify locking them up and throwing away the key no matter how tenuous, or no matter whatever exculpatory evidence may be presented.

          The real monsters here, besides the rapists, are people like you, who cannot see beyond their migrant status and will use any pretext whatsoever to denounce the lot of them as violent thugs and dangers to civil society.
          This is the mentality that created the barbarism of the Jim Crow South, when all-white juries would routinely sentence black defendants to excessive punishments, despite any exculpatory evidence whatsoever, because "everybody knows" that those black men are violent thugs anyway.

          https://reason.com/2024/06/24/byo-a-c/?comments=true#comment-10615352

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          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   21 hours ago

            I brought this up the other day and he said I was lying about him, so thanks.

            Then he added a new beauty: he equated the guy jerking off on the 12 year old to a monster’s secretary.

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            1. Mother's Lament   18 hours ago

              Keep the link.

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            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   17 hours ago

              Mobster.

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          2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   18 hours ago

            “the Real monsters are”…

            Zod what an insufferable dishonest twat

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          3. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

            Wow

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      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

        So all those other cultures are just as good and moral as ours? And thus a random sampling of people from those cultures pose the same risks as native-born US people? No chance that people raised in cultures that tolerate if not promote rape might be a wee bit more likely to commit rape?

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   22 hours ago

          Are we judging cultures, or are we judging people?

          Individual persons commit crimes, not "cultures". Furthermore, individual persons are not slaves to whatever culture they grew up in, and they are certainly not collectively responsible for what other individuals do who happen to share the same ethnicity.

          When JesseBot emphasizes all of these stories about crimes committed by people from different cultures, he is creating the impression that these PEOPLE are inferior because they come from what he thinks to be inferior culture. Is that a correct impression? Do you share it?

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          1. Minadin   22 hours ago

            Some cultures are actually, objectively, inferior. Sorry, but that is the truth.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   22 hours ago

              I don't think you can make such a blanket statement about the totality of any culture. There are pros and cons to every one.

              But this misses the point - PEOPLE commit crimes, not "cultures". If some Somali commits a crime, it does not mean every Somali is somehow collectively responsible on some level.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

                Yes, people do, but these cultures have different ways of looking at what’s a crime and what’s not that’s different than we might do in Western civilization. If it’s too different, then it’s incompatible.

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              2. Minadin   21 hours ago

                Name one positive aspect of Afghani culture that you believe that the United States could benefit from adopting.

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   21 hours ago

                  Do all Afghanis bear responsibility for the crime committed by one of them?

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                  1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   20 hours ago

                    Another simple question he refuses to answer.

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                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   20 hours ago

                    Next are you gonna ask if you would steal bread to feed your starving family?

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                  3. Minadin   7 hours ago

                    "bear responsibility"
                    Do we really need to go over bears and responsibility again?

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                2. chemjeff radical individualist   21 hours ago

                  And I cannot possibly speak for the entire nation. Afghanis have their own music, dance, theater, poetry, literature, etc. It is a matter of personal taste whether one likes these things or not.

                  Do you think there are any cultural practices in the US which ought to be considered inferior to cultural practices somewhere else?

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                  1. Minadin   20 hours ago

                    Do you think there are any cultural practices in the US which ought to be considered inferior to cultural practices somewhere else?

                    I don't think that the majority of our food culture is as good as it is in France or Italy, generally.

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                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   15 hours ago

                      I happen to agree with you. But plenty of Americans would disagree with you. Why are we right but they are wrong?

                      It comes down to individual taste and preference. There is no such thing as superiority or inferiority of one culture over another. There are simply too many variables and too many subjective ways to analyze those variables.

                      If you want to say that a cultural practice of child rape is inferior to other cultures which don't engage in child rape, then I will happily agree with you. But that does not mean this culture is inferior in every way in some absolute sense.

                    2. Minadin   12 hours ago

                      I don't think that we agree as much as you think. For instance, I can answer a simple, direct question, as demonstrated above.

                    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   11 hours ago

                      Plus you’re not a lying psychopath.

                    4. Minadin   7 hours ago

                      That only helps if you're arguing in good faith, or trying to get by at life with some decency and respect.

                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   20 hours ago

                    Question: Name one positive aspect of Afghani culture that you believe that the United States could benefit from adopting.

                    Jeff: I cannot possibly speak for the entire nation.

                    ^A perfect chemjeff dodge in action.

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                  3. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

                    Country music in some cases...

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                3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   18 hours ago

                  Fucking goats results in fewer planet destroying babies?

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              3. Marshal   20 hours ago

                But this misses the point - PEOPLE commit crimes, not "cultures". If some Somali commits a crime, it does not mean every Somali is somehow collectively responsible on some level.

                Nobody is assigning blame to all Somalis, that is your and the general left's strawman. Some cultures do not emphasize following the law like others do. People raised in those cultures are overwhelmingly likely to include more criminals.

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                1. Medulla Oblongata   19 hours ago

                  I don't think many people are trying to blame all Somalis for the actions of one or two individuals. But we want to see those individuals removed from polite society based on their demonstrated threat level.

                  OTOH, progressives seem to want to use all Somalis and their "culture" as an excuse to deflect blame from the individuals committing heinous crimes.

                  Or Mexicans, or Afghans, ... as the case may be.

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                  1. Marshal   18 hours ago

                    It's not one or two people. Hundreds of Somalis perpetrated the Feed Our Families fraud. Hundreds of Pakistanis participated in the gang rapes. And these are just the ones that were so open the authorities couldn't keep them from becoming public (although they tried).

                    Coming from a culture that embraces criminality or hates America should be a material negative in the immigration process resulting in allowing in only those who have demonstrated by accomplishment they have rejected those elements of their upbringing.

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                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   17 hours ago

                      Ayaan Hirsi Ali is good. No others easily come to mind.

              4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   18 hours ago

                Lol. “They only come here for a better life than they can have at home.”

                “We do not have a superior culture! Bigot!”

                Lol. Idiot.

                Hey jeff, what’s so great about trains?

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              5. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

                No one said they were.

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              6. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

                Walz +7

                And of course you can Fatfuck. Somalia is the poster child for that.

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              7. DesigNate   11 hours ago

                “There are cultural differences,” he added. “He is not used to a society where women are free and deemed equal to men.”

                Said to excuse a rapist.

                We 100% can say that some cultures are better than others.

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            2. chemjeff radical individualist   22 hours ago

              But, let's just assume you are correct for a moment.

              If Culture A is "objectively" inferior to Culture B, then does it necessarily follow that the people of Culture A are inferior to the people of Culture B?

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              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   22 hours ago

                JFC, this is bullshit from a bad philosophy 101 course, jeff. Didn't you claim to be an Objectivist at one point? You should have some reasoning ability.

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                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

                  His dishonesty and allegiance to global Marxist forces prevent any intelligent discourse with him. And his pedophilic inclinations don’t help either.

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              2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

                Quite possibly yes, Jeff. Not all people are the same. There is no blank slate. We are all defined by our genetics and those around us, whether we like it or not. You are already preprogrammed to like or dislike certain things. A shellfish allergy is an example of something from conception that you just have to accept and cannot change.

                Most of the world’s civilizations are collectivist in nature and do not acknowledge individuals in the same way the West, and to a lesser extent the Orthodox and Latin Americans do. In those other cultures, what you do reflects on your family, your clan, your tribe, unlike here where it’s only on yourself. They are not necessarily inferior, but different, and possibly incompatible with Western culture.

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              3. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

                What's Jeff doing here, ChatGPT?

                Jeff is shifting the debate from cultural analysis to moral accusation so he doesn’t have to address the underlying concerns being raised.

                When others discuss whether certain cultures produce higher rates of crime, he reframes the topic as “Are you calling the people themselves inferior?”

                This is a tactical move: by collapsing culture into individual worth, he can brand any cultural critique as bigotry.

                That lets him avoid the empirical questions entirely and instead claim the moral high ground.

                His repeated insistence that “people commit crimes, not cultures” is less a philosophical stance than a way to turn a policy discussion into a character trial, allowing him to suggest that others secretly believe some groups are inherently inferior.

                The payoff is that Jeff gets to reposition himself as the enlightened defender of human dignity while painting his opponents as flirting with racism — all without having to grapple with the substance of their arguments.

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                1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   18 hours ago

                  I love these

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                  1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

                    It likely sends him into a rage, which leads to a bitter feeding frenzy where he puts a large dent in his latest 55 gallon drum of ice cream. Bringing up bears in trunks has a similar effect.

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              4. Nobartium   21 hours ago

                Yes.

                Because culture A is, by definition, a product of people A.

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                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

                  And Fatfuck would love nothing kore than importing all People A here.

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          2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

            Jeff, while we do look at individuals, we also need to look at their culture as well. If you have a concentration of too many individuals from the same culture together, as in the case of Minnesotan Somalis, they then act as they would in their native environment, not as Westerners. While an individual Somali may be a fine fit here, a horde of them is not.

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            1. Outlaw Josey Wales   21 hours ago

              this ^

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            2. Medulla Oblongata   18 hours ago

              Especially if they isolate themselves into closed enclaves inside of which they only recognize their own culture and rules, thinking they can ignore the culture and rules into which they inserted themselves.

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              1. chemjeff radical individualist   17 hours ago

                Just like the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, the Norwegians,...

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                1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

                  Nope.

                  Walz +5

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                2. DesigNate   11 hours ago

                  In as much as their engaging in the same closed enclave behaviors resulted in similar corruption and crime (Tammany Hall, the rise of the Mafia, etc)? Yes,

                  This isn’t hard, if you’re not trying to be a sneering moral relativist.

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          3. Outlaw Josey Wales   21 hours ago

            Jeff - Are we judging cultures, or are we judging people?

            From the article:
            “There are cultural differences,” he added. “He is not used to a society where women are free and deemed equal to men. He is not used to a society where alcohol is freely available. He is morally at sea. There are massive cultural barriers that have become massive moral barriers.” He suggested that the rapist could still be able to “make a life for himself in this country” when he is released.

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          4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   20 hours ago

            Lying Jeffy wouldn’t answer a simple question

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          5. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

            No he is showing how illegals are fucking over citizens and if they were not in the fucking country illegally, no crimes by them would be committed.

            In this sense, would the crime rate stats decrease? yes and no. yes because there is less crime. No because the leftists do not report illegal immigrant crime because they want to protect them and not the citizens.

            Why are you protecting illegal criminals and offended when they and their crimes are published?

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   15 hours ago

              if they were not in the fucking country illegally, no crimes by them would be committed.

              I could also equivalently argue, "if Jeffrey Dahmer had never been born, no crimes by him would have been committed." Is this, therefore, an argument in favor of strict government-mandated birth control?

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              1. DesigNate   11 hours ago

                You could but your analogy, like most of your other ones, would fall flat on its face in its own idiocy.

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              2. Neutral not Neutered   5 minutes ago

                America had a Dahmer, so lets allow the world's Dahmer's to enter America illegally because if he could be him then others should be allowed too?

                Can you strawman and harder into a non sequitur?

                Not sure how anyone could sleep at night or even live with themself being so disingenuous and obtuse as you are so it must be mental health problems. Seek help.

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      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

        Jeff, serious question, do you honestly believe all cultures, all civilizations in this world are equal, are of equal merit, and believe the same things?

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

          You’re not going to get an honest answer.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

            Probably not, but I am curious if he’s an adherent of Fukuyama’s “end of history” or if he understands something closer to Huntington’s “clash of civilizations”. From reading his comments, he seems closer to Fukuyama and seems to believe in the blank slate.

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        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   23 hours ago

          He thinks american culture is the worst.

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      4. Z Crazy   23 hours ago

        Because theres a toxic ideology excusing rapes and other crimes committed by those of colonized groups!

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      5. Marshal   20 hours ago

        Could it be that you see a crime committed by an Afghan to be worse than a crime committed by a native-born citizen, even if the offense is the same?

        The key is that left wingers - both governments and Reason commenters - try to protect Pakistanis, Afghans, and Somalis who commit murder, gang rapes, and mass-fraud so they can continue their mass immigration program.

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        1. DesigNate   11 hours ago

          And of course, he completely ignores that nobody here is defending these kinds of crimes when they’re committed by a citizen.

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    5. Minadin   22 hours ago

      Isn't that the case where the defense attorneys (successfully) argued that publicly showing the video of what these two sub-humans did to that girl would potentially cause rioting?

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    6. Marshal   20 hours ago

      He suggested that the rapist could still be able to “make a life for himself in this country” when he is released.

      I'm sure the rapist is perfectly comfortable, but I suspect the people he rapes will be less comfortable.

      It's bizarre left wingers believe "he can't be expected to not rape in this cultural environment" is a justification to keep him in this cultural environment.

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      1. Minadin   17 hours ago

        Our enemies are not impressive people.

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  21. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    Somali activist admits Omar married her brother to commit visa fraud.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8013283/Ilhan-Omar-DID-marry-brother-reveals-Somali-community-leader.html

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    1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

      That is a legitimate basis for denaturalizing her. Trump should do so. It’s worth it just for the collective apoplexy from the democrats.

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  22. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    "...a few high-profile cases of teens who received assisted deaths prompted the country's regulator to consider a moratorium on approvals for children applying on the basis of psychiatric suffering."

    The downside of telling our kids they're victims. Although I'm curious how the aptly named Netherlands hasn't instilled yet in their young the lesson there is power in victimhood.

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  23. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

    "The Trump tariffs amount to an average tax increase per US household of $1,100 in 2025 and $1,400 in 2026," report Tax Foundation's Erica York and Alex Durante.

    Why do you guys keep pushing these type of lies? Analysis built on wrong assumptions ignoring actual CPI data? Ignoring no signal in the data?

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  24. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    Last month, Pew Research Center compared data from 1993 and 2023, finding 12th-grade boys are more likely than 12th-grade girls to say they want to get married someday, a flip from three decades ago...

    The lads want tradwives and the gals want to be lads.

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    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

      Seems to me that more lads want to be girls.

      Various surveys on trans populations have shown male to female transitions are 2-4x more likely than female to male.

      "The American Psychiatric Association, using GID criteria, suggested that MTFs had a 1 in 30,000 (.0077%) prevalence rate, while FTMs were 1 in 100,000 (.0029%)"

      I would guess that autogynephilia plays at least some role in this.

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      1. mad.casual   23 hours ago

        SSDD, with fixated retards, chickens and pigs. Girls are more likely to identify as (lgb)Trans because it's less costly both biologically and socially, while boys are more likely to be committed FTMs because the pieces don't just pop back on.

        The American Psyop Association will pick and choose the metrics as it fits any given narrative.

        Again, conceptually within the psychological framework, anything that's not 'M' or 'F' is completely baseless and up in the air. The idea that there are twice as many orange-apples as there are apple-oranges is assinine and the people making such arguments under the banner of science or objectivity should be hit with bats.

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      2. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

        Is the highest percentage of men wanting to transition to a women, older?

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  25. swillfredo pareto   1 day ago

    But the Trump economy is rather, uh, bad.

    Is it?

    Real, per-capita GDP and consumer spending are at all-time highs in 2025.

    Unemployment is well below the average for the last 20 years. Trump is not doing anything to negatively drive labor force participation.

    The inflation rate, well we know that one.

    Things could go to the shitter quickly, but by what metric(s) does one posit the economy is "rather...bad"?

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 day ago

      Wage growth passed inflation for the first time in 5 years. Ripples man.

      And he also didnt fix everything Biden did within 9 months.

      Liz and reason keep ignoring that fy25 was signed by Biden as they rage against any changes to FY25.

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      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 day ago

        What do you expect from a crowd of TDS-addled steaming piles of lying shit who should fuck off and die?

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    2. Longtobefree   23 hours ago

      True.
      How can I afford gas when it is only a dollar cheaper than under Biden's caregivers?

      Price at Inauguration: When Biden took office in January 2021, the national average gas price was approximately $2.39 per gallon.

      Average Over Term: The overall average price during President Biden's term has been estimated at around $3.60 per gallon, which is on pace to be the highest average under any president.

      Highest Price: The all-time record high national average of $5.016 per gallon was reached on June 14, 2022, during the Biden presidency, amid the global market volatility following Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

      (today's price, Orlando $2.79/gal)

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

        AAA has the current average at $2.94. It will get better, once the Ukraine War is officially ended and Trump is done refilling the Strategic Reserve that Biden squandered to cover his ass.

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    3. chemjeff radical individualist   23 hours ago

      Things could go to the shitter quickly, but by what metric(s) does one posit the economy is "rather...bad"?

      The same metric that was used to describe Biden's economy as "rather...bad", especially towards the end of his term.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

        And what was that, Jeff? Please post a link and citation or we should just assume you’re talking out of your ass.

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        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   23 hours ago

          Jeff also believed Brandon was sharp as a tack, and to say otherwise was to engage in CT.

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          1. HorseConch   22 hours ago

            In fairness, he was sharp compared to Lying Jeffy.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

              In more ways than one.

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      2. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

        What's Jeff up to here, ChatGPT?

        Jeff is dodging the economic argument entirely by shifting the discussion from measurable indicators to partisan perception framing. When asked what metric shows the Trump economy is “bad,” he doesn’t provide data or critique the numbers offered. Instead, he responds with:

        “The same metric used to describe Biden’s economy as bad.”

        This move lets him avoid engaging with the economic question and instead imply that judgments of the economy are purely tribal narratives rather than empirical assessments. It’s a way of saying: “Your side said Biden’s economy was bad, so now I’ll say Trump’s is bad.”

        By reframing the issue as hypocrisy rather than economics, he shields himself from having to provide evidence. The rhetorical payoff is that Jeff gets to score a partisan jab while sidestepping the burden of proof, leaving his critic with nothing substantive to rebut.

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   20 hours ago

          Yep. Remember, whenever Lying Jeffy accuses someone of being tribal, or just taking sides, it’s because he’s being tribal, or taking sides.

          He’s very dishonest.

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  26. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    "She wants to be heard but it is not clear what she wants to say" is such a brutal encapsulation of Kamala's career...

    Like any drunk.

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    1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   24 hours ago

      IT’S OK BECAUSE DEMOCRATS DID IT FIRST!!!!

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

        Nice imitation of Sarc.

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      2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

        It was democrats all along. And they killed Sparky too!

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  27. Fist of Etiquette   1 day ago

    one of the main things about being an american guy is, no matter your profession or even your age as far as I can tell, you think there's a small chance that you'll become president one day

    The women better not get any ideas, though.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      I remember being told in elementary school that being president was a possibility for anyone in America. Freedom and opportunity were real back then I guess,

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  28. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

    "If 6 in 10 girls still say they want to get married, what's going on with the two who changed their minds since 1993?"

    They got several cats.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      They are trans or gay.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

        I heard gays can get married these days.

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        1. mad.casual   23 hours ago

          Assuming the premise, the number should've gone up.

          I don't have p-values, but the data pretty strongly rejects the conclusion unless you invoke a confounding contrivance like lots of boys want to get married to each other and the girls "Nope." out.

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  29. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

    "Historical data show that when men's educational and economic outcomes decline, it is women without a college degree who experience the sharpest declines in marriage rates"

    Hypergamy. The act or practice of a person dating or marrying a spouse of higher social status than themselves.

    "Women marry up." So if the socioeconomic status of men is pushed downward, the pool of marryable men declines because there's fewer "top men" for women to marry.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   1 day ago

      There are only so many tall guys with high incomes, six packs abs, know how to cook to go around.

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      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 day ago

        There's a reason why "The Husband Store" joke works.

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        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   22 hours ago

          Sarc wants to know which floor has "well groomed" and "looks like a cop"

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

            It’s always the next one up.

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    2. mad.casual   23 hours ago

      what's going on with the two who changed their minds since 1993?

      Average Pew Research Employee in 1993:
      6' 1" tall, 16% BF, $100K per annum

      Average Pew Research Employee in 2023:
      5' 6" tall, 25% BF, $75K per annum

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    3. mad.casual   23 hours ago

      I slightly rescind my above comment. There's no need to even get that complicated.

      2 out of 10 12th-grade girls said they were not likely to get married until they found out that 6 in 10 of their peers said they were, then they changed their mind.

      It's unclear whether girls from 1993 were more able to intuit each others opinions organically after hours-long nightly phone conversations or if girls from 2023 were more likely to answer independently or randomly when they couldn't text their girlfriends first.

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  30. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 day ago

    "Over the past decade, a growing number of adolescents [in the Netherlands] have applied for assisted death for relief from irremediable psychiatric suffering from conditions such as eating disorders and anxiety," reports The New York Times...."

    Did not realize Dutch parents are so pathetic.

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      What would Anne Frank say?

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    2. rbike   21 hours ago

      What would Adrie Van der Poel say?

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  31. Ajsloss   1 day ago

    You know who else didn't need 37 choices of dolls?

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    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      Jeffrey Epstein? Oh, wait...

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  32. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 day ago

    Imperial hangovers.

    https://x.com/arrogance_0024/status/1998505132904911225?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Europe doesn't have "a problem". It has THREE problems: 3 European nations are suffering from a severe "post-imperial hangover".

    First, there is the United Kingdom, a nation that voted for Brexit to "take back control" only to realize it has completely forgotten how to drive.

    The British identity crisis is like watching a retired lion try to adopt a vegan diet. They traded imperial confidence for an HR department’s sensitivity training. The land of Churchill is now governed by a sprawling "nanny state" bureaucracy that is more terrified of offending someone on X than it is of actual decline. The British police, once the envy of the world, now seem to spend more resources investigating "non-crime hate incidents" and painting their patrol cars in rainbow colors than solving burglaries. It is a nation desperately clinging to the aesthetics of tradition—the Royals, the pomp, the tea—while its institutions have been hollowed out by a progressive rot that makes a California university campus look conservative. They want the swagger of the 19th century but are paralyzed by the emotional fragility of the 21st.

    Then there is France, the angry, chain-smoking aunt of Europe who refuses to admit she’s been unemployed for decades.

    France’s hangover manifests as a permanent state of insurrection masquerading as "civic engagement." Their identity is split between a delusional elite who still think Paris is the capital of the universe and a populace that expresses its "joie de vivre" by burning down bus stops every Thursday. The French suffer from a Napoleonic complex without a Napoleon; they demand the living standards of a conquering empire while working a 35-hour week and retiring at an age when most Americans are just hitting their stride. They preach "Republican values" and aggressive secularism, yet the state has lost control over vast swathes of its own suburbs. France is essentially a beautiful, open-air museum where the curators are on strike, the guards are afraid of the visitors, and the management is busy lecturing the rest of the world on "grandeur" while the electricity bill goes unpaid.

    Finally, we have Germany, the neurotic giant that has decided the only way to atone for its history is to commit slow-motion industrial suicide.

    Germany’s post-imperial hangover is a moral autoimmune disease: the country is so terrified of its own shadow that it has replaced national pride with aggressive self-flagellation and recycling regulations. Their identity is built on being the "Moral Superpower," which practically translates to shutting down their perfectly functional nuclear power plants to burn dirty coal, all while lecturing their neighbors on carbon footprints. It is a nation of engineers who have engineered a society that doesn't work. The German spirit, once defined by efficiency and discipline, has mutated into a paralyzed bureaucracy where filling out the correct form is more important than the outcome. They are so desperate to avoid being "threatening" that they’ve become essentially a large NGO with an army that has broomsticks for rifles, terrified that showing any backbone might be interpreted as a relapse.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   23 hours ago

      Europe is a hollowed out shell that is crossing the pond to commit lawfare on American companies. But not to worry. They're ramping up conscription so they redeem their former glory by beating Russia in a parody of WW3. As long as we're not involved I'm cool with letting them twist in wind on the scaffold they've built.

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    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

      That is superb.

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    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   16 hours ago

      How does the old joke go?….

      When you die, you know you have made it to heaven if the police are British, the chefs are French and the mechanics are German.

      However:

      You know you have found your way to hell if the police are German, the chefs are British and those lazy, smelly Frenchmen are the mechanics.

      Something like that. I paraphrase.

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  33. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 day ago

    "You always need steel. You don't need 37 dolls for your daughter," he continued. "Two or three is nice, but you don't need 37 dolls. So, we're doing things right. We're running this country right well."

    Has Trump never met "adult" doll "collectors"?

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    1. mad.casual   23 hours ago

      I thought part of the problem is that he sees one every morning in the mirror.

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    2. Neutral not Neutered   17 hours ago

      The collector can afford 37 dolls, the parents who need to chose what is spent each month never intended to buy 37 dolls even if they were cheap enough.

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  34. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 day ago

    The issue with marriage is you have a cunnty chick who is a 3 at best thinks she is entitles to a guy that makes upper 6 figures, is over 6 ft tall, works out, and want to stay home with kids. And these chicks surround themselves with other delusional chicks that say she's right

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    1. Z Crazy   22 hours ago

      Is there a similar problem among men?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

        Not the same, but a number of men do not want to get married as there are serious current downsides to marriage, most of which have to do with family law and divorce.

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        1. damikesc   20 hours ago

          I got sole custody of my son after my divorce. And it was a close call, even though she abandoned him with me and just disappeared for a few weeks.

          Family court is abysmal. It is bizarre hearing how little pre-nups actually mean in too many courts.

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          1. chemjeff radical individualist   16 hours ago

            Well, this explains a lot.

            Do you follow Andrew Tate?

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  35. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 day ago

    How to filet, gut, and stuff a bill from something wholesome to nothing but artificial flavors and ingredients.

    https://x.com/millennialverse/status/1998602896217149889?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Earlier today, @GovPritzker and other Illinois Democrats proudly showcased their priorities by signing HB1312—a bill centered on expanding sanctuary-style protections statewide.

    HB1312 was originally drafted to honor POW/MIA families, then was stripped of every word of that purpose and written into 35 pages of more special protections for illegal aliens.

    You couldn’t paint a clearer picture of what matters more to Illinois Democrats if you tried.

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    1. HorseConch   22 hours ago

      I'm sure this plays well with normal voters.

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    2. Marshal   21 hours ago

      That's the same strategy they used with Obamacare. The effect is to pass a piece of paper, then write whatever you want on it.

      I love preening lectures on Democracy from people who do this. It reinforces everything we know about left wingers.

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      1. damikesc   20 hours ago

        I've become progressively more supportive of a monarchy over what we have now.

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        1. Neutral not Neutered   16 hours ago

          Follow the green book to vict, ah too succ, ahh too prosp. Ahh damn.

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    3. Medulla Oblongata   18 hours ago

      https://capitolnewsillinois.com/news/gop-lawsuit-seeks-to-end-gut-and-replace-legislation/

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    4. Medulla Oblongata   18 hours ago

      https://pacificlegal.org/obamacare-litigation-redux/

      The trial court also held that Obamacare satisfied the origination requirement because the Senate is allowed to amend House-passed bills by adding taxes. But the Supreme Court has already declared that, to be valid, a Senate amendment must be “germane” to the subject of the bill the House first passed. Without this limitation on the Senate’s amendment power, the Origination Clause would be a nullity, since the Senate could replace any House bill with a revenue-raising measure and claim that it complied with the Origination Clause because the Senate had simply “amended” a House bill. The bill that metamorphosed into Obamacare first passed the House as the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act of 2009, a bill that had nothing to do with health insurance reform until Senator Reid proposed the “gut-and-replace” “amendment” that stripped the House bill’s entire contents and replaced it with language that would eventually be signed into law as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. The Senate thus created Obamacare from scratch, but used a House bill as a “shell” to pass it.

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      1. DesigNate   10 hours ago

        Democrats totally care about liberty and the Constitution.

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  36. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   1 day ago

    "Major California health system ending transgender procedures for minors across its network"
    [...]
    "A Sacramento-based healthcare system has announced it will stop providing transgender procedures for minors.
    Sutter Health, headquartered in Sacramento, will be ending transgender procedures for minors on Wednesday, the San Francisco Standard reported.
    Julie, a parent who lives in the East Bay, has a transgender son who was scheduled for a puberty-blocking injection on Jan. 3..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/major-california-health-system-ending-transgender-procedures-for-minors-across-its-network/ar-AA1S1OlN?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    I'm sure Mommy is amazed, but there are certain activities which have long-term results and which should be chosen perhaps a bit later in life.

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    1. Gaear Grimsrud   23 hours ago

      Would that be Julie Munchausen?

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    2. Super Scary   23 hours ago

      So it's gone all the way from "it's not happening" to "we're going to stop doing it."

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    3. Neutral not Neutered   16 hours ago

      The sad thing is having to try and counter the bullshit lies and misinformation with your children.

      The struggle to have them understand that yes Virginia, they have been castrating children in California for many years and the government is lying when they say they are not.

      And other truths like California is undermining parents and teachers can become guardians of transitioning students without parental consent.

      It's about time Dr's and nurses became ethical and morally responsible to patients instead of the dollars.

      Just because we can doesn't mean we should. GOF et al.

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  37. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

    'Tariffs aren't necessary or wise or especially conservative (though he's worked on rebranding them as such). The economic hardship imposed wipes out any revenue gains, and then some. "The Trump tariffs amount to an average tax increase per US household of $1,100 in 2025 and $1,400 in 2026," report Tax Foundation's Erica York and Alex Durante.'

    OK. Let's assume, like apparently most Reason staff, that we want a multi-trillion dollar federal government. And let's assume that we want to fund it with taxes. So what is the most "libertarian" tax--and most economically effective tax? Thus recall that taxing something tends to inhibit that thing.

    Tax income? Maybe, but don't we want more income? (And skewness in income tax rates is another issue.)

    Tax production? Not very productive.

    Tax sales? You know sales is the key metric in a private market economy?

    Tax property? Only if you don't want any.

    Tax imports? Hmm. This adds costs to some consumption, but might have other effects that we might like?

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    1. chemjeff radical individualist   23 hours ago

      If the primary consideration is to minimize the inhibitory effect of taxation, then it seems to me the most prudent strategy is to have low rates of taxation among all taxable categories (income, sales, property, etc.). If the tax rates are low in each category, then the inhibitory effects are minimized. If the taxes are spread out among all categories, then the government raises enough revenue to fund its operations.

      Tax imports? Hmm. This adds costs to some consumption, but might have other effects that we might like?

      I have never understood the appeal of autarky.

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   23 hours ago

        I have never understood the appeal of autarky.

        You are aware that your posts re covid can still be seen, no?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

          He thinks they disappeared into a trunk like his bears.

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          1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   16 hours ago

            His hands disappear into the trunks of bear cubs.

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      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

        Hey Lying Jeffy remember when you said lowering taxes was immoral? That was pretty cool.

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   22 hours ago

          I believe cutting taxes in the current environment (not in general), one in which there are perpetual budget deficits, is immoral because it's not actually a tax cut, it is a tax deferral to future generations who will have to pay for that spending that was borrowed on credit, plus interest. They will be forced to pay more in taxes than we would have to pay in the current moment, and they don't even get a vote as to how that tax money is to be spent now.

          Do you have a reasoned argument against this position, or is this just another lame gotcha/baiting post from you?

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          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   22 hours ago

            As stated by others below, the mantra should indeed be "fuck you, cut spending"

            Your doppel-ganger here used to say that often, but he stopped for some reason...

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          2. Marshal   21 hours ago

            is this just another lame gotcha/baiting post from you?

            It's amusing Jeffey pretends to be above baiting posts in the same thread he calls everyone racist because mass uncontrolled immigration causes problems.

            I'm at risk of whiplash watching how fast they switch personas & branding, but maybe they're bipolar and don't realize their actions are not normal.

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            1. chemjeff radical individualist   16 hours ago

              It is amusing how you criticize and condemn me for not living up to lofty standards (whether true or not). Meanwhile, you seemingly do not hold the right-wingers in this forum to any sort of standard at all. I wonder why this is? I think it must be because you recognize right-wingers as being incapable of holding to any standards whatsoever, so berating them for bad behavior is a waste of time. They are too stupid and irresponsible to be expected to behave respectably. By contrast, libertarians such as myself tend to be much smarter and capable of elevated forms of discourse, so demanding that I hold myself to high standards has a chance of being successful.

              Is that it, Marshal?

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              1. Marshal   16 hours ago

                I'm so old I remember when you pretended to oppose whataboutism.

                libertarians such as myself tend to be much smarter and capable of elevated forms of discourse

                Libertarians are, which is one reason why it's useful to point out you are not. Like other left wingers you seem to think "elevated discourse" means calling your opponents racist.

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                1. chemjeff radical individualist   16 hours ago

                  I see that you continue in your unbroken streak of failing to hold any right-wingers to any standard whatsoever, preferring instead to judge and condemn me. I freely confess, I am not perfect! I am a flawed human being who sometimes makes mistakes. I will strive to do better, unlike those right-wingers whom you ignore, because they are incapable of doing better, since they have IQs below room temperature.

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                  1. Marshal   15 hours ago

                    they are incapable of doing better, since they have IQs below room temperature.

                    It's amusing you say this because you constantly prove you're just like the people you hate most.

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                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   15 hours ago

                      they are incapable of doing better, since they have IQs below room temperature.

                      Oh, you misunderstand. That is not what I think of MAGA. That is what I think YOU think of MAGA. Why else would a neutral person such as yourself refuse to hold anyone on the MAGA side accountable to any standards whatsoever? It must only be because you think it is a waste of time because they cannot be reformed. Furthermore, they are irredeemible because, you think, they lack the intelligence necessary to change course and correct themselves. Is that it? What else could possibly be the reason why you refuse to hold anyone on the right accountable to any standard?

                    2. Marshal   10 hours ago

                      It must only be because

                      Mindreading again, I remember when you used to pretend that was wrong.

                      That is what I think YOU think of MAGA.

                      Your mindreading is just you imposing how you think onto others, so this is your opinion.

                      In reality I criticize you because you do exactly what you criticize from others while pretending to be above it. And of course, because you're a propagandist trying to ruin the board for everyone. It has nothing to do with anyone else.

              2. DesigNate   10 hours ago

                You are still wrong about taxes AND using leftist talking points to boot.

                Libertarian my ass.

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      3. Neutral not Neutered   16 hours ago

        Did you forget the democrats do not think they have a limit? In fact, they try to ensure they go well beyond the expected limits to purposely try to destroy. And therefore they do not have to live within the means of the system because their means to their end is to collapse the system?

        Oh gee we overspent again, oh well. Don't cut anything, just tax more. Make everyone pay their fair share. How else can we fundamentally transform America into the 4th incarnation of Stalin's USSR?

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    2. Zeb   22 hours ago

      There's no way we're coming close to paying for the current size of government without income tax. Tariffs could fund a much smaller government, but tariffs at a level that could fund what we have now would have to be so high as to essentially kill trade. But there is no option on the table for that or for eliminating income taxes, as much as I would like it if there were.

      Shorter version: "Fuck you, cut spending".

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

        Yes. “Fuck you; cut spending” should be the mantra here.

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  38. mad.casual   24 hours ago

    one of the main things about being an american guy is, no matter your profession or even your age as far as I can tell, you think there's a small chance that you'll become president one day

    'Cause they told me... when I was younger...
    Said, "Boy, you're gonna be president"
    But just like everything else, those old crazy dreams
    Just kinda came and went

    Thank goodness for the Progressive defeat of small-minded, infantile, backwards, bitter clinging groupthinkers and the triumph of social and ideological diversity.

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  39. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

    'Can you just pretend you don't have social media accounts? What exactly would they find disqualifying?'

    I have a Facebook account that I have not used since my mother died 10 years ago. I have no Twitter/X, Snapchat, Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, etc. accounts.

    I guess they could disqualify me as some sort of misanthropic deviant.

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    1. Dillinger   22 hours ago

      #metoo

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  40. Medulla Oblongata   24 hours ago

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/warlord-terror-and-taxpayer-theft-somali-scheme-allegedly-bilks-millions-from-maine-medicaid-to-fund-foreign-army

    Minnesota is not the only state facing large-scale fraud allegations involving the Somali community. A multimillion-dollar health care scandal has been uncovered in another state after a whistleblower came forward to expose the alleged corruption.

    Christopher Bernardini, a whistleblower who worked at a health services contractor called Gateway Community Services from May 2018 to April 2025, told NewsNation about the alleged fraudulent billing practices he discovered during his time at the organization.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   21 hours ago

      Cultural capitalism.

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    2. damikesc   20 hours ago

      Ohio has considerable fraud issues.

      But these are not enough to worry libertarians. Mass fraud is just fine with libertarians.

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      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 hours ago

        You get used to it.

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  41. shrike   24 hours ago

    Fatass Donnie hatches plan to send $1500 checks to subsidize Obamacare.

    Payments of up to $1,500 proposed for millions of Americans

    Published: Dec. 10, 2025, 7:20 a.m.

    https://www.al.com/news/2025/12/payments-of-up-to-1500-proposed-for-millions-of-americans.html

    #GOP-Socialism

    Needs based,Peanuts:

    Who qualifies for the money?
    ..
    The legislation proposes:
    ..
    People with HSAs that have bronze or catastrophic plans under the Health Insurance Marketplace, known as Obamacare, in 2026 and 2027 would be eligible for the additional funding.
    Eligible individuals earning less than 700 percent of the federal poverty levels would receive $1,000 if they are aged 18-49.
    People aged 50-64 earning less than 700 percent of the federal poverty level would receive $1,500.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   23 hours ago

      I didn’t know the president writes legislation.

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      1. shrike   23 hours ago

        Trump Signals Backing of Direct $1,500 Payments for Millions of Americans
        Dec 10, 2025 at 06:36 AM EST

        https://www.newsweek.com/trump-signals-backing-direct-healthcare-payments-millions-americans-11185142

        DONNIE LIKES!

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        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

          But he doesn’t like child porn, like you do.

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

          While I’m not too crazy about sending out cheques to people, you definitely have a major case of TDS.

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        3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   23 hours ago

          Doesn’t it mean Obamacare is a failure?

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          1. shrike   23 hours ago

            The ACA was always a failure at the macro level.

            When Reagan set up a law that said hospitals legally have to treat all ER patients the system has been about throwing cost onto someone.

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            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   22 hours ago

              turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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        4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   22 hours ago

          turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   23 hours ago

      Just think if you added that 1500 to your "forgotten" savings account, you'd be swimming in riches.

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    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

      You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   22 hours ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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  42. Earth-based Human Skeptic   24 hours ago

    'Yet in headlines they are reported as major negative effects.…But it is not the collapse of our civilization, or the destruction of our youth.'

    But there is a large contingent in Western societies dedicated to catastrophic thinking. Seriously. Call them liberals, or women, or effete elitists, or just Chicken Littles, they have gained an out-sized voice in our public attitudes and policies. And just as bad, most of they also reflexively default to big government solutions for their endless list of dooms.

    So no surprise that the latest "social media is ruining our kids" panic has inspired all sorts of academic consternation, and emerging government bans. But we also have data that link significantly higher rates of mental distress to liberal ideology. When will our betters take action against that?

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    1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   9 hours ago

      Yep.

      Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair.

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  43. shrike   23 hours ago

    Why Donnie and Vlad love each other:

    Trump's new cold war with Europe
    ..
    The Trump administration is engaged in open hostilities with the European Union, turning long-simmering feuds over free speech, Ukraine and mass migration into official U.S. policy.
    ...
    Why it matters: The EU's $140 million fine of Elon Musk's X platform lit the fuse on a conflict the Trump administration was already primed for — and which it formalized in a new National Security Strategy that casts Europe as a geopolitical villain.
    ..
    "They're destroying their countries," Trump told Politico, slamming European nations as "decaying" and "weak."
    The newest flashpoint comes with the U.S. and its European allies also at loggerheads over Ukraine and the future of European security.

    https://www.axios.com/2025/12/10/trump-europe-x-fine-ukraine-cold-war

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    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   23 hours ago

      Remember when orangehitler whispered into that Putin-lackey's ear about how he'd have more leverage after his election?

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      1. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

        Remember when orangehitler told Mitt Romney the 80s wanted their foreign policy back?

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

      You were banned for posting a link to child porn.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   9 hours ago

        A pity he’s not being prosecuted for it. Them see how much fun his child molesting ass has in general population at his state penitentiary.

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    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

      You posted a false analogy, jeffshrike. Just because the E.U. has gone full Orwellian and is now at odds with 1A does not mean Trump and Putin are on the same side, dipshit.

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      1. shrike   23 hours ago

        Vlad and Donnie both hate Western Liberal Democracy (embodied by Europe and secular US liberals).

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   23 hours ago

          LOL

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

          Are you seriously retarded or something?

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          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   22 hours ago

            Don't think that needs asking.

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        3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   22 hours ago

          turd, the shits-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

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        4. DesigNate   10 hours ago

          Congratulations shrike, you’ve managed to win back the top spot from Molly: you are the dumbest motherfucker to post here.

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        5. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   9 hours ago

          Walz +9

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    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   22 hours ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of TDS-addled lefty shit.

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  44. Nobartium   23 hours ago

    SpaceX is moving ahead with plans for an initial public offering

    And thus will end any innovation in their rocketry.

    I hope this IPO fails catastrophically

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    1. mad.casual   23 hours ago

      I wish there were a better way, but yeah.

      Incorporation is going to mandate every decision be made by committee, get approved in triplicate to meet government standards, and ensure that no whales were potentially harmed by the successful launch and landing of any given rocket. SpaceX will, at best, become a NASA skunkworks program (not that it's not already headed that way).

      In 100 yrs. Reason Magazine of the time will be saying that we need to repeal The Jones Act in order to lower the cost of interplanetary rocket ship building.

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    2. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

      I hope this IPO fails catastrophically

      100% this.

      He almost lost Tesla a couple of times to its board. SpaceX is to important for that to happen to it.

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  45. chemjeff radical individualist   23 hours ago

    U.S. Customs and Border Protection is going to start "adding social media as a mandatory data element" that they consider when screening people entering the country under the Visa Waiver Program, which allows citizens of places like Australia, Germany, Japan, and the U.K. to enter visa-free.

    Motte: CBP is screening social media to determine if any of the visitors have terrorist connections.

    Bailey: CBP is screening social media really to see if any of the visitors have said mean things about Trump.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

      Is this like your motte (it’s only a book) and bailey (let’s introduce kids to porn)?

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      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   23 hours ago

        Jeff isn’t very bright.

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        1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   9 hours ago

          You very wonder if Jeffy is a registered sex offender?

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    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   23 hours ago

      Cite?

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    3. damikesc   20 hours ago

      ...yet that has, literally, not been done.

      Like, at all.

      You can continue getting hard-ons for illegal criminals.

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      1. DesigNate   10 hours ago

        He’s really bad at this.

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  46. Earth-based Human Skeptic   23 hours ago

    'after I take a brief hiatus for the month of January to welcome/wrangle my second baby'

    "Wrangling"? Is that some sort of NYC thing where they treat babies like cattle? And can we come to watch the roundup, branding, and castrations?

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  47. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   23 hours ago

    Sounds like something Shrike and Jeffy have on their phones.

    https://x.com/shoe0nhead/status/1998628662657298723?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    i’m sorry WHAT

    TINDER FOR WHAT

    Fire up the wood chippers!

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    1. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

      Wait, Tinder for kids!!!???

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    2. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   9 hours ago

      I can’t help but think that this sort of thing wouldn’t be happening if we just got rid of the democrats.

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  48. Marshal   23 hours ago

    Attempting to very tightly control who enters this country would make sense if we had some sort of massive wave of radicalism and extremist violence fomented by people from these places who are entering via the Visa Waiver Program

    We don't have this problem now because we're not members. But if we don't build security it will immediately become terrorists new pathway.

    Imaging a bank saying we're not going to have any security on our new online accounts because no one has hacked the accounts that didn't exist until now. Isn't the time to build security when you're designing the system rather than after you've experienced the rash of terrorism? The idea that you cannot protect yourself before the disaster is so odd it makes you wonder how people came to believe it.

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    1. damikesc   20 hours ago

      I guess laughable levels of fraud is not enough to tighten up any controls.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   9 hours ago

        Pedo Jeffy is all for the fraud.

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  49. chemjeff radical individualist   23 hours ago

    Well well, the mask has slipped completely off now.

    Stephen Miller: Our problems in America are because of immigration!

    https://www.rawstory.com/stephen-miller-immigrant-descendants/

    Test scores in schools are bad because of immigration.
    We have crime in this country because of immigration.
    We have health care challenges in this country because of immigration.

    He, and a substantial portion of MAGA, really do blame the brown people for America's problems.

    It's not about legal vs. illegal immigration anymore (it never really was anyway). It's about all the immigrants. He just doesn't want them here at all, legally or otherwise.

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   22 hours ago

      You do realize, Jeff, that the proportion of immigrants to native in the US is as high as it was in the late nineteen-teens and early nineteen-twenties, when we had similar issues regarding assimilation? It’s almost as if there’s an upper limit to the foreign-born population in the US that the US can absorb at any one time. More measured immigration would’ve been better, but you’re not exactly for moderation here, are you Jeff? You seem to believe all civilizations and cultures are equal and believe the same things and have the same ideals, almost as if humans were interchangeable cogs.

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      1. SCOTUS gave JeffSarc a big sad   9 hours ago

        No, he doesn’t realize that. Nor does he care.

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    2. Mother's Lament   21 hours ago

      What's Jeff up to here, ChatGPT?

      Jeff is deliberately collapsing every distinction between legal immigration, illegal immigration, policy criticism, and cultural concerns in order to paint MAGA as uniformly anti-immigrant and racially motivated.

      He knows full well that many prominent figures on the right are immigrants, married to immigrants or children of immigrants, but he ignores this because his goal isn’t accuracy — it’s moral framing.

      By declaring “the mask has slipped” and claiming that conservatives blame “the brown people for all of America’s problems,” he converts a policy debate into an accusation of racial animus. This allows him to assign sinister motives to anyone skeptical of current immigration levels, implying they secretly oppose all immigrants regardless of legality.

      In short, Jeff is using exaggeration and motive attribution to redefine the opposing side as bigoted, so he doesn’t have to engage with the actual arguments or the many counterexamples that contradict his narrative.

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      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   20 hours ago

        Jeff from a previous thread - Are we judging cultures, or are we judging people?

        Jeff now - He, and a substantial portion of MAGA, really do blame the brown people for America's problems.

        Sounds, uh, judgemental there Chemmy

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        1. chemjeff radical individualist   16 hours ago

          You mean, I am judging only that proportion of MAGA which is xenophobic and anti-immigration, and not judging all of MAGA by assuming they all share the same "MAGA culture" and therefore are all equally guilty? Yes, that is correct.

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          1. Frosty   15 hours ago

            You mean, I am judging only that proportion...

            Which proportion? All? Most? 13%?

            -Amazing

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          2. Mother's Lament   11 hours ago

            Jeff is engaging in retroactive moral repositioning to escape the contradiction that Outlaw Josey Wales pointed out. He previously insisted:

            “We shouldn’t judge whole cultures — only individuals.”

            But in the other thread he claimed:

            “A substantial portion of MAGA blame the brown people for all of America’s problems.”

            That is a cultural generalization — exactly the behavior he claimed to oppose.
            So when called out, Jeff reframes his earlier statement to make it sound like he was being precise all along:

            “I am judging only that proportion of MAGA which is xenophobic…”

            Here’s what he is actually doing:

            1. Rewriting his own meaning after the fact.
            He pretends his broad accusation was always a narrow, carefully aimed critique.

            2. Dodging the contradiction by shifting definitions.
            He treats “a substantial portion of MAGA” as if it referred to a specific subgroup, even though he used it as a blanket smear.

            3. Moralizing the distinction to regain the high ground.
            He flips the criticism around by implying:
            “See? I’m judging individuals — unlike you.”

            4. Preserving the smear while avoiding accountability.
            He keeps the xenophobia accusation intact while denying he ever generalized.

            In short: Jeff is retconning his own rhetoric to appear principled and consistent, reframing his broad attack on MAGA as a targeted critique so he can maintain the moral high ground while avoiding responsibility for the contradiction.

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  50. Sometimes a Great Notion   22 hours ago

    but you don't need 37 dolls

    Trump is feeling the Burn. Can't wait to see him in his Met Gala Dress.

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  51. MT-Man   22 hours ago

    Liz and Reason crew, where did you get this line from? They see the rise in grocery prices reflected in their household budgets; the fact that it's harder to get goods to arrive on time; the fact that large manufacturers are now running into real supply chain issues (after a summer and fall of stockpiling that made it so most consumers didn't feel the tariff effects until somewhat recently). I see into 100's of millions of spend a year and have not encountered this discussion of stockpiling or supply chain issues that's any different than before that you regurgitated, who, what, where is this from? Real life in my vantage of high spend has not heard of this at the level you parrot.

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    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   21 hours ago

      Any excuse no matter if it is backed by data to blame tariffs.

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  52. Dillinger   22 hours ago

    >>What a fascinating tack to take ... "You always need steel. You don't need 37 dolls for your daughter"

    fascinating because you realize it's true?

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  53. Dillinger   22 hours ago

    >>after I take a brief hiatus for the month of January

    mazel tov on replenishing the species. please don't send Eric to sub.

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  54. Dillinger   22 hours ago

    >>The Dutch government's decision to allow assisted suicide for minors is rather controversial

    hatred of your youth is fucking disgusting

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  55. Dillinger   22 hours ago

    >>Can you just pretend you don't have social media accounts?

    you can pretend anything you want. getting away with entering the country on lies and perpetuating the lies once inside seems wrought with difficulties ... being state-sponsored might help I suppose idk

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    1. damikesc   20 hours ago

      Democrats demand that you permit lying. It is why they supported placing the wrong sex on passports.

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      1. Dillinger   18 hours ago

        word. smartLiz should know better than to posit 7th grade chick theories

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  56. Dillinger   22 hours ago

    >>“She wants to be heard but it is not clear what she wants to say”

    every girl I've ever met. it's why repeal the 19th! is funny every day

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  57. Dillinger   21 hours ago

    >>I have to lodge my disagreement with Cowen here

    props. Cowen falls into his own trap.

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  58. damikesc   20 hours ago

    Rep Hank Johnson (D-GA) is seemingly test-driving the new Democrat campaign mantra.

    He referred to the US as "the Great Satan" during an interview with leftist "comedian" Dean...whatever the fuck his last name is. I don't care.

    Democrats need to be treated like the seditious cocksmokers the whole lot of them are.

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    1. Horatio Cornblower   19 hours ago

      He's the genius who thought Guam would tip over if we built up our military bases too much.

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      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   18 hours ago

        Dems are the party of science.

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        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   15 hours ago

          The science of propaganda, media manipulation, and socialism. Marx told us that was scientific, right?

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      2. Dillinger   18 hours ago

        CAP-siiize

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  59. But SkyNet is a Private Company   18 hours ago

    Will Manidis, whoever he is, needs to get out of NY once in a while. Nowhere near me is anything like the Delta SkyClub or Centurion lounge.

    Mediocre Liz needs to flee NYC like it is Sodom and Gomorrah. No telling how her life and outlook might improve

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