Mamdani and Trump Getting Chummy Is America's 'Horseshoe Theory' Nightmare
When the so-called "communist lunatic" and the so-called "fascist" find common ground, it means the country needs an intervention.
In the run-up to New York City's mayoral election, Donald Trump let loose with one of his signature, ill-tempered social-media rants, where he complained that Democrats "have crossed the line" by nominating Zohran Mamdani. Trump described him as "a 100% Communist Lunatic. We've had Radical Lefties before, but this is getting a little ridiculous."
Although I wish Trump would at least occasionally act presidential, I chuckled at this one. Democratic leaders actually were troubled by Mamdani's rise (although their preference for a disgraced former governor was equally dismaying), but Democratic voters handed Mamdani a solid victory despite his radical positions. Some of those include rent freezes, city-run grocery stores, a massive minimum-wage hike, government-financed housing projects and free public transit.
So it was much to my surprise—and virtually everyone else's—that Trump invited the mayor-elect to the White House. It was even more surprising that the confab turned into a kumbaya session, with the two men smiling and glad-handing. After the meeting Trump's tone toward the "communist lunatic" softened, as the president said, "It was a Great Honor meeting Zohran Mamdani, the new Mayor of New York City!" The happy talk was amazing.
The reactions were predictable, but entertaining. Some lefties were outraged, with a socialist web site already dismissing Mamdani as just another capitalist politician. There's a reported break between progressive camps, with the latest fracas revolving over support—or lack thereof—for a primary challenge to Democratic House leader Hakeem Jeffries. I suppose the Trump meeting reinforces Mamdani's role as a member of the pragmatic lunatic left.
Meanwhile, Democratic strategist Michael LaRosa said on Fox & Friends Weekend, "Seeing those guys yuck it up, talk about housing, where they agree on housing, where they agree on crime, exchanging compliments over social media, Mamdani talking about how they share some of the same voter coalition. I, as a moderate common-sense Democrat, loved it." That group of Democrats sees Mamdani as having scored a political victory by charming the president.
The cognitive dissonance on the right was equally hilarious. "I had to drink a bottle of ginger ale today after seeing Mamdani in the Oval Office because it physically nauseates me seeing Islamic jihadists infiltrate our government and continue to get a pass to promote Islamic jihad and anti-American values with zero push back," posted MAGA activist Laura Loomer. But other Trump supporters praised the president's commitment to New York City and his four-level chess abilities or whatever.
"What this episode truly reveals is that Donald Trump believes political rhetoric to be as real as professional wrestling, a work of kayfabe," wrote Jeffrey Blehar in a sensible take at National Review. There's some truth there, given the president's knack for theatrics. But take a look at the president's meeting with Vladimir Zelensky, where he tried to humiliate him. The president continues to blame the Ukrainian president for having the audacity to have gotten his country invaded.
Then there's Trump's recent White House meeting with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman. It was extraordinarily warm, with Trump giving the prince a pass on Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi's horrifying death and dismemberment at the Saudi consulate in Turkey in 2018 and referring to it in the passive voice: "things happen." Trump isn't chummy with everyone who visits—only with those with whom he shares a certain affinity.
Trump gave the obvious answer to why he and Mamdani hit it off during their meeting: "[W]e agree on a lot more than I would have thought." Go back to LaRosa's comments, too. The two men talked about affordability and the bizarre overlap in their voter coalition. Many of their specific policies differ, of course, but they are both advocates for big-government solutions. They both seek centralized power to issue edicts. They both are authoritarians who appeal to a sense of grievance. They both disdain limits on their powers.
The Mamdani-Trump meeting was the embodiment of what I've long predicted and feared. The populist right swept away conservatives' traditional belief in limited government and market-based reform—and replaced it with a cultural agenda fueled by anger and dependent on the wiles of a Dear Leader. It's been successfully politically (although not economically and it's dangerous to the health of our democracy). It was only a matter of time before Democrats gave up on their flaccid approach and embraced left-wing populism in return.
This is the dictionary definition of the Horseshoe Theory, where extremes on the right and left are not divided at the far ends of a long line but at the ends of a horseshoe. Populists on both sides believe in an activist government, although they have different motivations. As fundamentally collectivist, both movements are remarkably similar.
So here we are, where the so-called "communist lunatic" and the so-called "fascist" find common ground. We're close to the point where our country needs an intervention.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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Careful you don't step in the bullshit.
Shitler and Stalin carved up Poland, leaving nothing for Poles, following a secret agreement between the two of them.
Dear Orange Caligula and Mammy-Danny-Boy will carve up the remnants of our individual freedoms, leaving nothing for us, following a secret agreement between the two of them.
Unfortunately you are correct.
I am a rare person who hates both Mamdani and Trump. Both their Cults are immune to facts and logic. And we see a lot of one of those Cults here.
Reason is really still trying this?
They get quite a bit in donations. How much do you get?
People of value earn money, donations not needed.
It is a pretty bad take. And I don't even think it's unreasonable to accuse Trump of being too socialist in some areas. This is clearly Trump's usual way of doing politics and not some endorsement of anything about Mamdani. Some people just refuse to understand (or acknowledge) how Trump operates.
How do you write on politics and don't know what glad handing is? Get back to me when we start propping up Mumdabe's failed policies.
Even glad handing aside, it's like saying a Nigerian marathoner who started the race at the 25th mile and a paraplegic learning how to use his legs again are on the same team and/or equally responsible for determining the outcome of the race.
The FedGov has been propping up failed socialist policies in NY, IL, CA, etc. iteratively since Soc. Sec., NHTSA, EPA and DoE were created. The idea of equating Trump with Mamdani is dumb.
Mamdani and Trump Getting Chummy Is America's 'Horseshoe Theory' Nightmare
Once again, Trump is no 12D chess genius. He's a moderately good checkers player opposed by people who struggle to be two dimensional.
This is exceptionally pointed given that this
iswas the party of The Nolan Chart."...and keep your enemies closer" never crossed your mind?
Your horseshoe is horseshit. This is just chief executives being cordial. What, you want strife in government?
It seems to be the new popular narrative of globalists, see the screams against populism in favor of the neutral technocracy.
The only thing they have in common is the craphole known as NYC.
NYC is the opposite of a craphole. I have lived there for over 24 years.
NYC just went 12 days with no homicides. In a city if 8.5 million people.
Mamdani may screw this up but at the moment things are fine.
The steaming pile of lying TDS-addled shit Greenhut's bullshit is tiresome.
Fuck off and die, asswipe. Pathetic.
Reason is mad when neither party gets a long and mad when they talk to each other. do I Trust either party no and no one should but once in a while a little peace is good
Funny how the "horseshoe" only affects establishment Democrats.
There are reasons for Limousine Liberals like Greenhut to rejoice though! Dems won two minor state-level races, it's a huge BLUE WAVE!
Mamdani bites Trump on the neck, turning him into a Were-Marxist ! Full story on Reason.com.
The difference between the two is that the "communist" has said over and over that he actually is a communist, and the "fascist" is no such thing.
'the "communist" has said over and over that he actually is a communist'
That is a lie.
What the country needs is to understand that the "Left-Right" paradigm is largely contrived nonsense. If is at the very least overly simplistic, but more likely a construct designed to manipulate the masses.
There is not that much that divides MAGA/MAHA from the Bernie Bros. No where near what the corporate media narrative pretends and propagandizes, or that the Uni-Party factions harp on every election cycle.
And as soon as these two dumbasses are called out by other party figures like, say, Fetterman and Paul, the fringe nut cases jump all over them, threaten to primary them, and ensure that toxic politics continues to prevail in both parties.
>> Paul, the fringe nut case
word.
did you write this ridiculous piece because you hate donation week?
Trump was nice to Mamdani so Trump supports "rent freezes, city-run grocery stores, a massive minimum-wage hike, government-financed housing projects and free public transit"????
The pure BS-indoctrination pushing this narrative is ridiculous.
We [D]s finally realize we SUCK so we'll just shovel our SUCKY off onto Trump! /s
The Blame-Shifting just never ends ... day after day after day.
All Mamdani needs to get Trump to support the stupid government owned grocery store plan is to contract out the operations to the Trump Organization.
And you know that.
LOL... Self-Projection ... Day after day....................
The way [WE][D]s think/do is the way Trump wants too but ?can't? so it's all his fault!/s
Unless he thinks you've insulted him somehow, Trump tends to be nice towards people he's meeting in person, and it doesn't necessarily imply he's going to act how that person would want him to after the meeting is over. He's a salesman. When was the last time you went shopping for a car or a house and the salesman deliberately tried to piss you off? You don't have to like him to understand this.
I miss 90s Reason Magazine. What it's turned into is... idiotic.
Mamdani has repeatedly insulted Trump.
True. I should have been clearer. I meant insulted them *at that in-person meeting*. I haven't watched the entire event, but it seemed Mamdani was behaving himself at the time.
And my correction needs a correction. "insulted him" not "insulted them"
I didn't think you really meant to adopt the flexible pronouns thing
Leftists will do or say anything to try and distract from the fact they are the ones who killed millions, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists , and that there is no connection between the extreme left and the right.
Horseshoe = horseshit 101.
'Hitler and the Nazis were socialists'
Yet another lie from you. The actual socialists were the only political party to oppose making Hitler a dictator.
LOL... Every dictionary under the sun..
definition of Nazism = [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism].
...and usually what they say is just a flat-out lie a child should be able to spot.
Democratic People's Republic of Korea.
Because you think people can identify as something they are not?
The trumpies in the comment section really are coping hard. I don't get why they obsess with commenting here if they do nothing but disagree with EVERY article... I suggest they all watch this on the political realignment:
https://youtu.be/6GVMnQ4-_cQ
Dr. Steve Davies is Head of Education at the IEA, a free-market think tank in the UK.
Fusionism (the conservative-libertarian alliance died about 10 years ago)... increasingly the new alliance is between nationalist/populists of various types (MAGA and Progressives) vs. liberals of various types (classical liberals, social democrats, and neo-liberals). Through that lens Trump-Mamdani makes perfect sense.
You suggest we all ?learn? complete BS?
Maybe it's time to for the TDS to ... for once 'think' for themselves.
I would say that MAGA should think for themselves but it isn't clear that they are capable of doing so. The unbelievably ignorant comments on the recent COVID study is proof.
Do you think Government 'Guns' + a study = a disease free society?
How's that going to happen? You want the 'Guns' to kill everyone?
No worries man; if you're all dead you can't carry disease! /s
The unbelievably ignorant comments on the recent Covid study is proof the leftists will believe anything put in front of them that makes them feel better for being sheeple.
Keep trying to punch down from that pedestal of self denial oh virtuous one.
I am sure in your delusional mind you can make sense of most any absurdity.
The horseshoe theory is bullshit. Fascism is another form of Marxism. Fuck off and kill your retarded self
^THIS +10000000.. It's just another way for leftards to self-project.
"Fascism is another form of Marxism."
The many Marxists the Fascists murdered would disagree. You need to read Mussolini before embarrassing yourself again.
One either thinks 'Guns' (Gov-Guns) is how stuff gets made (production).
Or they don't.
Call it what you want; Gun-Produce can only be fulfilled by conquering and consuming until there is nothing left to STEAL. It is 'armed-theft'. It is criminal. It is Demand-Side only and it's a ZERO-Sum dead end game for everyone.
Perhaps the many Marxists the Marxists have murdered would disagree that Marxists are actually Marxists then? You might ask Trotsky, Bukharin, Tukhachevsky or the like for their opinions.
Like I said earlier. Read Mussolini before embarrassing yourself further.
Really, the "No True Scotsman" fallacy might as well be called the "No True Socialist" fallacy. There are two key ideological difference between the economies of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy vs. say the USSR, neither of which make the former two non-socialist.
1. They were national socialists (in the generic sense, as opposed to National Socialist aka Nazis), as distinguished from international socialists. An international socialist believes that class identity trumps national/racial/ethnic identity. A national socialist does not. Or to put it another way, it's "workers of the world, unite" vs. "workers of my country, unite." This has nothing to do with how the economy within that country functions. When Mussolini talked about "smashing the heads of the socialists", he was talking about international socialists, and he hated them because of their internationalism, not their economics.
2. Rather than de jure State ownership of property, they used de facto State ownership: you control your property so long as the State likes how you're using it. Thought experiment: suppose a German businessman refused to manufacture something Hitler needed to operate his death camps. Would Hitler say "I'm very angry but I can't violate your property rights"? Or would that businessmen soon be strangling on piano wire in a Gestapo basement somewhere? Socialists often point to profit as indicating who a property belongs to, but owning a property means you make the decisions regarding it, of which "who gets the money it generates" is merely one.
No, I have not read Mussolini as a primary source, just analysis/summations of it. I'll make you a deal. I'll go read the economics section of "La Dottrina del Fascismo" by Mussolini, you go read "The Vampire Economy: Doing Business Under Fascism" by Günter Reimann, which details how the day-to-day economy worked in pre-WW2 Nazi Germany. Reimann was, incidentally, a Communist and part of the German resistance movement.
People of the same ilk kill each other all the time. Evil doers will do evil.
Why is anyone surprised? Communism and fascism are on the same side of the political scale.