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MAGA

Trouble in Paradise

Plus: Zohran-Trump lovefest, bitcoin down, Heritage kerfuffle, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 11.24.2025 9:30 AM

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Trumpworld schism: On Friday night, MAGA Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene announced her resignation from Congress. "I've always represented the common American man and woman as a member of the House of Representatives, which is why I've always been despised in Washington, D.C. and just never fit in. Americans are used by the political industrial complex of both political parties, election cycle after election cycle, in order to elect whichever side can convince Americans to hate the other side more," the Georgia Republican said in her resignation video:

My message to Georgia's 14th district and America.
Thank you. pic.twitter.com/tSoHCeAjn1

— Marjorie Taylor Greene ???????? (@mtgreenee) November 22, 2025

Greene struck predictably populist America First notes ("Americans' hard-earned tax dollars always fund foreign wars, foreign aid, and foreign interests") and mapped her disagreements with the president ("H1Bs replacing American jobs, AI state moratoriums, debt for life 50 year mortgage scams, standing strongly against all involvement in foreign wars, and demanding the release of the Epstein files") while touting her loyalty. Read her full statement here.

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Until recently, Greene and President Donald Trump seemed to be thick as thieves. But the Epstein files tore them asunder, with Greene positioning herself as an ardent advocate for full transparency while Trump (until recently) refused to go along. The president, pissed off by Greene's adamance, disavowed her and started publicly musing about how someone should mount a primary challenge, calling his once-loyal acolyte a "ranting lunatic."

The Epstein issue wedged the door open for Greene to raise more grievances with Trump, especially the idea that he's been getting distracted from his domestic agenda and hasn't delivered much financial relief to the American people. The conflict came to a head during the recent government shutdown. "I don't see political party lines," said Greene, discussing health care and the many Americans who could soon see premiums spiking. Greene criticized her own side for having no workable plan in place to prevent these higher costs.

"I don't know what happened to Marjorie," said Trump recently. "Nice woman, but I don't know what happened. She's lost her way, I think."

Many of her constituents are still behind her. "I feel like she has stood her ground," Meredith Rosson, a 43-year-old paralegal and the chairwoman of the Republican Party in Chattooga County, told The New York Times. The Republican Party in Floyd County, also in Greene's district, issued a statement of "unwavering support" for Greene as soon as she announced her resignation. "She's realized, 'I need to do what's right for my community and for people who are mostly in the middle ground,'" cocktail bar/gun store owner Brandon Pledger told the Times.


Scenes from New York: "Violent crime is overwhelmingly the work of a small group of repeat offenders—that is, it is highly concentrated. The remedy, as [James Q.] Wilson argued half a century ago in his classic book Thinking About Crime, is not social engineering but incapacitation: keeping the violent few from striking again," argues Tal Fortgang in City Journal. "In 2022, the New York Times reported that 'nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City…involved just 327 people,' or 0.004 percent of the population, who had been 'arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times.'"


QUICK HITS

  • "We had some interesting conversation, and some of his ideas really are the same ideas I have," President Donald Trump said of his Friday meeting with incoming New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani. "The new word is affordability." They appeared to be rather fond of each other, and Trump was in peak form:

Q: Are you affirming that you think President Trump is a fascist?

MAMDANI: I've spoken about--

TRUMP: That's okay. You can just say yes. I don't mind. pic.twitter.com/uWZFRcmGxB

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) November 21, 2025

  • "It's not as though [Tucker] Carlson's decision to platform [Nick] Fuentes—a Gen Z livestreamer with a history of making Holocaust jokes, who predictably used his appearance on Carlson's show to rail against 'organized Jewry in America'—came out of nowhere. Anyone who's been paying attention knows that the former Fox News star left the world of responsible politics behind long ago," writes Reason's Stephanie Slade. "Not that [Heritage President Kevin] Roberts seemed to care….Once you crawl into bed with the likes of Tucker Carlson, you're stuck. What you told yourself was a strategic play for relevance can turn out to be a deal with the devil instead."
  • "Exchange-traded funds investing in Bitcoin are heading for their worst month of outflows since launching nearly two years ago, piling yet more pressure on a jaded crypto market," reports Bloomberg. "Investors have pulled $3.5 billion from the US-listed Bitcoin ETFs so far in November, almost equaling the previous monthly record for outflows of $3.6 billion set in February, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. BlackRock Inc.'s Bitcoin fund IBIT, which accounts for about 60% of the cohort's assets, has registered $2.2 billion in redemptions in November, meaning it will slump to its worst month barring a sharp reversal."
  • North Carolina's Republicans aren't so sure about the federal immigration raids in their districts.
  • I'm getting some crazy hate mail for defending the tradwives:

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  1. Chumby   2 months ago

    Park His Ass

    Trans non-binary park ranger fired from Yosemite National Park for hanging gigantic trans flag from El Capitan rock sends message to Trump Administration:

    “You can fire us, you can defund our parks, you can tell us that we’re not valid…and we will keep showing up.”

    https://t.me/leaklive/29885

    Hope he doesn’t own an akita; the dog would not respect its mentally ill owner.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Showing up in mental institutions, in elementary schools with murderous intent, and sniping Christian debaters on college campuses.

      Fuck these creatures.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        SSqrlsy says it is ok because Trump understands why a frustrated person when observing an election being stolen.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Melvin Sqrsly can cool his jets and find some new copypasta.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Everywhere except the podium of open sporting competitions... or explicit men's competitions... or objective medical/scientific records like record numbers of live births... or really any competition that isn't categorically limited to weaker opponents whose rules you can openly and dishonestly skirt.

        Pretty much just places where you can lie to get attention without someone suing you into oblivion or caving in your skull.

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      Yeah, dude, the only way you can be valid is to hang a divisive political symbol from a popular natural wonder.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      He is not a valid human.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    On Friday night, MAGA Queen Marjorie Taylor Greene announced her resignation from Congress.

    I look forward to not watching her on The View, apparently.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Maybe she can join Jimmy Kimmel as he tours progressive boomer retirement homes and institutes for the mentally insane. Charlie and SSqrlsy can provide updates.

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      She wont be missed.

      1. charliehall   2 months ago

        My Jewish Space Lasers are safe!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          “We're Jews out in space We're zooming along protecting the Hebrew race

          We're Jews out in space If trouble appears we put it right back in its place

          When goyim attack us We give 'em a smack we'll slap them right back in the face

          We're Jews out in space We're zooming along protecting the Hebrew race.”

    3. Minadin   2 months ago

      I've read / heard online that the date of her resignation happens to be just a few days after her congressional tenure is long enough to warrant a lifetime pension.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Of course it is. She’s a grifting Congress critter first and foremost.

      2. Eeyore   2 months ago

        Makes sense.

      3. Chumby   2 months ago

        If there is a Dark Crystal reboot, she could play one of the Uruh without the need for facial makeup. Just sayin.

        https://darkcrystal.fandom.com/wiki/UrSu

      4. Troglodyte Rex   2 months ago

        I've read / heard online that the date of her resignation happens to be just a few days after her congressional tenure is long enough to warrant a lifetime pension.

        Not how it works sparkle smurf. She will qualify for a FERS retirement, and with 5 years of federal service, will garner 5% of her high-3 salary, so anywhere from $8k - $10k per year. The kicker is that she won't be able to start collecting until age 62, which for her is in 2036.

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      She was a great politician. She took both sides of every issue whenever convienent

  3. Chumby   2 months ago

    Peaceful Fishermen

    Federal raid at a nightclub in San Antonio, Texas leads to more than 150 arrests including 27 alleged members of the Tren de Aragua gang.

    “Thanks to the work of DHS law enforcement and our federal partners, 150 illegal aliens including 27 suspected Tren de Argua gang members are off our streets,” said Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin.

    “Law enforcement officers also seized weapons, drugs, and $35,000 during this operation targeting an underground nightclub.”

    https://t.me/leaklive/29877

    Deport all the illegal alien rapefugees. Good job ICE.

    1. charliehall   2 months ago

      The Second Amendment crowd is horrified that their weapons have been seized!

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        The gang members should have their firearms once they are back in their home country.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        Pro-gun folks support illegals having guns? When?

        We support violent criminals having guns? When?

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I've always represented the common American man and woman as a member of the House of Representatives...

    She's running.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      She might to start with walking or perhaps jogging.

      1. Jim Conley   2 months ago

        MTG is too pale for jogging.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      My favorite is her complaining about Washington and others and sets her retirement one day after congressional pension vests. And apparently she earned 20M while a rep.

    3. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Maybe just full time blogging with some podcasting.

  5. Chumby   2 months ago

    Trust The Government Health Experts

    Couples aborted healthy babies after tragic diagnosis errors at NHS hospital

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/couples-aborted-babies-after-wrongly-34631320

    Anything short pf terminating the responsible staff would be a miscarriage of justice.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Dr. McBain: My dianosis? You hef a terminal case of lead dee-fish-en-see and I've got your prescribed treatment right he-ah!
      [BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!BLAM!]

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      Def need to be skeptical of the experts, as we have seen.

      Anecdotally, friends of ours have 2 kids, their youngest was said to have, by genetic testing, likely down's syndrome as well as some other major genetic defect. They had a pretty serious period of gried/depression, but ended up saying they would go forward and love the kid, even though it wasn't what they signed up for.

      Turns out they were completely wrong, no Down's, and in fact, kid is a multi-sport athlete with straight A's. How many families lost what would have been the greatest joy of their lives due to this incorrect counseling?

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        That's nuts that they are that bad at testing.

    3. Eeyore   2 months ago

      I mean - the kid was going to die eventually. Might have even taken 100 years. Think of all the diseases this prevented. No flu. No covid. No whopping cough. No monkey pox. No hypertension. No diabetes. Some kind of all purpose miracle procedure.

  6. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    Trouble in (socialist) paradise.

    https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/1992930362042028455?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    President Trump and Marco Rubio are OFFICIALLY designating Maduro-led Cartel de los Soles a foreign terrorist organization today

    Maduro is furious.

    The pressure is palpable.

    Got popcorn?

    1. charliehall   2 months ago

      Cartel de los soles is as real an organization as Antifa is.

      https://apnews.com/article/venezuela-maduro-cartel-soles-us-drugs-terrorist-f778922c04b4f514092bd29b91e77358

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        You cretins use MAGA in the same manner. Piss off.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        You’re not making the argument you think you’re making.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        So you use Always Propaganda as a source?

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...'nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City…involved just 327 people,' or 0.004 percent of the population, who had been 'arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times.'

    Do we all enjoy adjusting society to accommodate the lowest element in our midst? We must.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      A Broadway play about this might be eligible for a Tony.

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      You get used to it, or so I’m told.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        #bigcitycharm

    3. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      On a long enough timeline, they will kill women on subways.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Or leave them 60% burned in an attempt to do so.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          But none of them debated college students, correct?

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      The chopping off of hands seems a lot more reasonable after the 50th arrest.

    5. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Why have they not been brought to trial even once?

      1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

        Because it's racist to put black criminals in jail, or something...

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          Oh my. This is turning into more culture war issues. Have any of you ever even ridden a train in a large urban area?

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            Why would I do that?

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              Could take a stab at why you wouldn’t want to.

              1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

                That's a flaming hot take.

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  Just to throw fuel onto the fire.

            2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

              “Why would I do that?”

              Trunk bear ruined your car?

          2. Chupacabra   2 months ago

            Yes. I've lived in New York, Boston and currently in SF.

          3. DesigNate   2 months ago

            I got this reference.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      "nearly a third of all shoplifting arrests in New York City… arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times."

      I'm sure this will have a profound impact on the other ~12,000 people, or 0.14 percent of the population, who only get arrested for shoplifting once or twice a year.

      "Try to keep the shoplifting arrests to less than 10 a year, wouldja?"

    7. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      You’d really have to have shit for brains to let emptytheprisons go this far, right?

  8. Chumby   2 months ago

    A Tangled Web We Weave

    Birmingham, Alabama. Three braiders at “Mama’s Gifted Hands” arrested for assault & kidnapping after locking customer Jessica Odom in the salon and pulling her hair over extra $50 dispute— after she paid the agreed $200.

    https://t.me/leaklive/29886

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Fucking Amish ruin everything.

    2. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

      Seems fair.

  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    MTG is so dreamy now.

    Amazing how much press someone gets for just criticizing trump.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      MTG is so dreamy now.

      Will she end up in the Reason stable of libertarians with Justin Amash and Jeff Flake? Stay tuned to find out!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Sure as hell. She went against Trump, therefore, she’s now a demigod according to Boehm, Sullum, Jeffy, and Sarc.

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Remermber how Reason treated Jared Polis?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Dreamisest of dreamy. Same with Ro Khanna.

  10. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "She's lost her way, I think"

    Can't have chicks in charge?

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Michelle Obama said we aren't ready.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        There are those who claim Michelle is not a chick.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Wait till Macron finds out.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        Regarding Big Mike, did you see that dress he was wearing?

        1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

          It could never be short enough to excite my culture.

  11. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    I keep getting told america is incapable of all that amazing tech foreign countries make.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/11/made-in-america-again-treasury-sec-bessent-unveils-first-u-s-made-rare-earth-magnet-in-25-years/

    I know. I know. Its better to only manufacture critical items in foreign countries. Make ourselves dependent on them. New libertarianism.

    1. Ersatz   2 months ago

      MADA - Make America Dependent Again

  12. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "cocktail bar/gun store owner Brandon Pledger"

    Alcohol, (tobacco?), and Firearms!

    1. Minadin   2 months ago

      We had a convenience store near where I grew up in Missouri that was a gas station, ice cream parlor, and gun store (also sold archery and fishing supplies).

  13. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Almost every German town is bankrupt. And it all ties back to mass migration. What happened to all profit no downsides?

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/almost-every-german-city-now-verge-bankruptcy

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      There is an upper limit on the number of food trucks any given town can truly support?

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Reason: "we've never seen that limit."

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          The wurst is yet to come?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            The results could be sauer for these Krauts.

            1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

              They're certainly on cloud nein.

            2. Chumby   2 months ago

              Food trucks are great where you can just wear your pajamas and get served. Dining at a fine restaurant often means being dressed to the neins.

            3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

              None of them serve schnellfish.

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      When did anyone ever claim "all profit no downsides"? In Germany at least I believe it was framed more as a moral imperative. Which is also a stupid argument. Maybe spend more time arguing against the arguments actually being made.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Ask Sarc.

      2. Z Crazy   2 months ago

        A m oral imperative to let these filthy migrants rape white girls?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Sarc claims it’s not as bad as a job loss.

      3. mad.casual   2 months ago

        When did anyone ever claim "all profit no downsides"?

        Well, the only way immigrants prop up a society that's taxing itself to death is to produce more, on the whole, than they consume and the case was explicitly made here, several times, that they (would) do that. And kinda inherent in the open borders ethos is that that is true without rider or proviso and/or sight unseen (across any all imaginary social constructs).

        "Moral imperative" may've been the argument the Germans were making to each other, but that wasn't and isn't the argument Reason makes.

      4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Have you see the economic models pushed by CATO and brookings? Reason has even pushed these models. I know you were here when they did because many of criticized those models.

        2017.

        https://www.chicagobooth.edu/review/how-will-germanys-refugees-affect-its-economy

        2021.

        https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2019/05/how-has-germanys-economy-been-affected-by-the-recent-surge-in-immigration/

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Reason this year for fucks sake.

          https://reason.com/2025/03/19/immigrants-are-a-boon-to-the-u-s-economy/

          Reason 2022.

          https://reason.com/2022/12/08/america-needs-low-skilled-workers/

          Fucking last year.

          https://reason.com/2024/02/02/how-increasing-immigration-can-reduce-the-deficit/

        2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          2020.

          https://reason.com/video/2020/12/21/how-immigrants-make-america-great-again-and-again-and-again/

          2018.

          https://reason.com/2018/07/21/the-us-needs-more-immigrants/

          All of these keep using the failed economic models mentioned above. Never discussing the obvious downsides we have directly seen the last decade.

          So instead if telling me what to do, maybe stop misremembering the shit just cause you agree with the stance zeb. What the fuck. Youre usually better than this.

        3. Zeb   2 months ago

          Perhaps I'm being too particular. But the claim is that there are net benefits, not only benefits with no downsides. Everything has downsides and I don't think I've seen Reason or Cato deny that.
          And I don't recall if they were claiming that any amount of immigration in any form would definitely be a net benefit. If that was it, then that is indeed a stupid thing to claim.

      5. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        "When did anyone ever claim "all profit no downsides"? "

        Essentially, that has been the argument from the left, in one form or another, for years.

        They are just doing what the market wants them to do, they are net tax payers not consumers of services, but muh food trucks, but muh racism.

        There has been a significant attempt to downplay or completely ignore/reject any of the obvious down sides people have been screaming about forever. Maybe the phrase "all profit no downsides" wasnt exactly used, but that is the attitude.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          He sadly knows this. I'm honestly not sure why he is claiming it isnt the literal globalist argument.

          1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

            Here is a donwside.

            https://ethicsalarms.com/2025/11/23/another-good-illegal-immigrant-sob-story-from-the-new-york-times/comment-page-1/

            If I were bloggress Ann Althouse (and how can you be sure I’m not?) I’d begin this post with a quote from the story, like:

            “But Perez-Bravo had most of his family and several members of his church at the hearing, and his lawyer said that he was “connected to the city in deep ways.” He regularly cooked for 60 people at church barbecues. He had a son who was about to graduate from high school, a boss who wrote letters testifying to his work ethic, and a pastor who was willing to pay a $1,000 bond on his behalf and risk her house as collateral. “This is a kind family and they help everybody,” the pastor testified. “We’re going to help him.” The judge ruled that he could return home with an ankle monitor until his next court date as long as he stopped using Kluver’s name and Social Security number….”

            … Then I’d add a wry and probing observation or two, maybe a pedantic discourse on what “connected to the city” means, and leave it to commenters to analyze the story. I’m tempted to do an Althouse impression here, but I won’t, because I want to be unequivocal.

            This situation isn’t as complex and wrenching as the Times reporter tries to make it. An Guadamalan came to the the U.S. illegally, broke the law repeatedly to stay here, and screwed up the life of an American citizen in the process. Finally he was caught, and that’s good. I have no sympathy for noble illegal immigrant the Times weeps for: he got more out of his dishonesty and disrespect for American sovereignty than he deserved.

            Instead of the one quote from “Two Men. One Identity. They Both Paid the Price— Thousands of undocumented workers rely on fraudulent Social Security numbers. One of them belonged to Dan Kluver”, I’ll give you several with this gift link. Note that the Times, of course, uses the still-in vogue cover-phrase for “illegal immigrant.” When I read “undocumented worker,” I know I’m being misled by a biased source with an agenda.

            Here are the quotes with some brief reactions from your heartless host:

            “His case was one version of a problem that’s been spreading across the country for years. The government estimates that as many as one million undocumented workers are using fraudulent or stolen Social Security numbers — a survival tactic used to pass background checks and get jobs”
            “A survival tactic.” When a mobster chops up a body and covers it with lye in the hole where he stashes his victim in a desert, do we call that “a survival tactic”? Language games are another insidious way the Axis news media tries to subtly make readers sympathize with illegals. They’re only trying to survive!

            “Perez-Bravo had come to the United States for the first time at 16 to help earn money for his family, traveling alone to join his father in Marshall, Minn. He hiked out of the Guatemalan highlands, rode atop a freight train for three weeks across Mexico, nearly drowned in the Rio Grande and took a Greyhound to Middle America, where life somehow felt harder. He slept on a couch in his father’s apartment and enrolled in high school despite speaking almost no English. Then he began to look for a job, but no one would hire an underage worker without papers.”
            This is the illegal immigrant who stole the identity of Danial Kluwar. But how can you blame him? He just wanted “to help earn money for his family.” And look at all the ordeals he went through! How can you blame him, you heartless, privileged reader?

            My answer: Easily.

            “The first years were lonely and exhausting. He started to drink, which led to a string of D.U.I.s and other minor offenses. He was deported back to Guatemala in 2005, 2008 and 2009, but each time he returned to the United States and purchased a new ID for work.”
            The Times wants us to consider: How can anyone impugn whomever he is (the Good illegal Immigrant has had at least three fake identities) for those DUI’s (why was he driving with a fake license?) and “minor offenses” (I wonder how “minor” they were…)? After all, he was lonely and exhausted!

            But then, so am I…

            “He sought out new documents from the black market, sending a few text messages and then meeting a middle man on a street corner in Nebraska to pay in cash. This time the Social Security card was for Daniel Kluver. Perez-Bravo didn’t know if that person was fake, or dead, or a victim of identity theft, or somehow in on the scheme. But the number worked at a succession of factory jobs across the Midwest.”
            It worked! And since he didn’t know if his stolen ID was going to cause problems for an innocent, legal citizen, how can he be criticized if it did?

            “Like millions of undocumented immigrants, he paid federal and state taxes that were automatically deducted from his paycheck. To Perez-Bravo, that meant he was contributing thousands into a Social Security fund from which he would never collect”
            See what a Good Illegal Immigrant he was? And there are “millions” like him. How can ICE be so cruel as to deport someone this productive and noble?

            “Perez-Bravo wanted to live and work under his own name, so he signed up for extra shifts and stacked overtime until he could afford to hire an immigration lawyer earlier this year. He paid $4,000 upfront only to learn that the pathways to citizenship were essentially closed under the Trump administration for someone with a history of D.U.I.s and deportations, even if he’d stopped drinking and kept his record clean for the past 15 years. “All I do is take care of my family and go to work,” he told his lawyer. “Is there no way to fix this?”

            Sure: go back to Guatemala and try to immigrate legally. As Roy Hobbs says in “The Natural,” ” Some mistakes, I guess, we never stop paying for.” Yup! That’s life.

            “And then came a detail from a police report that Kluver couldn’t shake. In the summer of 2022, the other Dan Kluver had been driving to work in St. Joseph when the serpentine belt broke in his car, causing him to lose control at a red light and collide with a grandfather and his 9-year-old granddaughter as they rode on a motorized tricycle. The girl sustained minor injuries, but the 68-year-old man flew off the bike, broke his pelvis in two places, struck his head and died. The driver stayed on the scene, praying and cooperating with the police as he handed over a license and registration for Dan Kluver. He was cleared of any wrongdoing. The crash was ruled an accident. But the victim’s family had filed a wrongful-death lawsuit — with Kluver listed as the defendant.”
            He was praying. See? He’s a decent, God-fearing man…who was driving illegally and killed somebody. For sometimes other people have to pay for our mistakes, even though they did nothing wrong.

            Well, read the rest: there are plenty of other sections that should drive you crazy if you grasp the basic principles or responsibility, honesty, accountability, rationalizations and fairness. The New York Times wants to make certain that you don’t.

            Near the end, the Good Illegal Immigrant expresses sympathy for the man whose identity he stole, whom the Times cleverly calls “a victim of a broken system.” You know, because the system stole his identity, or forced what’s-his- name to do it.

            “He sounds like me — a good worker,” Perez-Bravo told his wife, one day last month. “I don’t want to mess things up for anyone. I just want to work. It makes me crazy with no job. How many hours can I sit and pray?” “You’re still here,” she told him. “That’s what matters.” “I’m here and I’m worthless,” he said. “This is not a life.”

            It’s the life he chose.

            1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

              Illegalkind is a threat to us all.

              They should be presumed so unless they prove otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt!

          2. Zeb   2 months ago

            Because it isn't. The claim is that it's for the best overall. That doesn't mean there are no downsides. Of course there are, as there are to anything.
            By the way, my position has never been that immigration is always good and never causes problems. I used to be a lot closer to an open borders position than I am now, but that was entirely based on individual rights. I have moved away from that position because I realize and accept that a stable culture matters a lot and that rapidly taking in a lot of really poor people with no plan other than getting to the US and claiming asylum will lead to all kinds of problems.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I think this fundamentally mischaracterizes their case. When people make an argument they usually do not state the downsides. That doesn't mean they are arguing there are none.

          For example, I cannot recall having seen Jesse, nor others on his side, state the downsides of tariffs, mass deportations, soldiers in our streets or exploding small Caribbean boats. Should we assume the case being made is that none of those have downsides? This is just how people make arguments.

          1. Uilleam   2 months ago

            What a ridiculous position. There are downsides to resolving problems, is your basic premise. No mention ever, from any of you resident statists, on how we got into this huge mess. Or that a problem even exists, while the country goes to hell. Wtf does your post even mean, except to imply that nothing should be done. So just get used to it? You are so slimy.

          2. Uilleam   2 months ago

            Shorter White Mike:

            Trump Admin: "We're finally prosecuting all of this lawlessness; once it clears the courts anyway."

            White Mike: "Poor criminals."

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              He says this in a thread starting with a country literally going bankrupt due to his policy positions.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                Such as?

                1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                  Found the retard.

            2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              What the hell are you seeing? Your 2 comments are nothing but a tirade of perceived grievances completely divorced from anything I said or meant.

              1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                You are just way too smart for me. Here, let me run you through it. If you can list the downsides to these general policy positions then you win.

                - Tariffs on all of our exports to other countries and massive outsourcing in all sectors
                - Mass illegal immigration/open borders
                - Lawlessness in major cities/dismantling of law enforcement
                - Massive importation of drugs/open borders

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  OK. I'll play.

                  - Tariffs on all of our exports to other countries and massive outsourcing in all sectors

                  Tariffs on US exports raise prices abroad and reduce US exports which is bad for US manufacturing and GDP.

                  - Mass illegal immigration/open borders

                  Immigrants are competition for jobs so native born Americans will have higher unemployment and lower wages. Also, in our welfare state, our tax money is spent on immigrants. Finally, high numbers of immigrants as we have seen recently are a challenge to US culture and breeds unrest among natives.

                  - Lawlessness in major cities/dismantling of law enforcement

                  The obvious downside is increased crime and victims of crime. I see no need for further explanation.

                  - Massive importation of drugs/open borders

                  Open borders was pretty much covered on the immigration point above. Importation of drugs is problematic due to lost productivity and lost lives. Under our current system we can add increased corruption, taxation/debt (to fund the drug war) and health care costs.

                  1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                    Ok you are almost there. Your next assignment is to hypothesis on solutions to those problems, inside the current legal framework; i.e. the Constitution and laws passed by Congress. Try to be objective. No AI.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      I owe you nothing.

                      You've been nothing but a prick to me.

                    2. Uilleam   2 months ago

                      You'll get used to it.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      I am used to it.

                  2. Lester75   2 months ago

                    >>Also, in our welfare state, our tax money is spent on immigrants.
                    Not really. There is some welfare spent on the children of immigrants if they were born in the U.S. Otherwise immigrants are not eligible for welfare (albeit they may cheat as U.S. citizens may also cheat by mis-reporting their income etc.).

                    1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                      How can you possibly believe this? Tons of our tax money is being spent on "legal" and illegal immigration. Not to mention the unquantified costs. It has become one of the largest sectors of our economy. It is facilitating huge (painful) transfers of wealth.

                    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                      This continues to remain false. See california which offsets aid to illegals, medical and good, with charges to ded programs.

                      God damn. You guys always repeat bullshit.

          3. Chumby   2 months ago

            When Obama had a US citizen assassinated without due process, my recollection is the Obama fluffers rejoiced. I thought he should have been tried with capital punishment on the table as a penalty should he be convicted. The downside pointed out at that time was it ostensibly opened up a new set of previously uncodified powers for the executive. It instead was considered “legal” at that time. Those same powers are being used to destroy alleged, maybe, probably international cartel members running drugs. The downside is another team D executive could use that power again against US citizens. And I don’t think drugs should be illegal; if blue city retards want to waste away on fentanyl, they should be free to do so (provided they receive zero govt assistance). The cartels are evil, but the drug runners are pawns.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              When Obama had a US citizen assassinated without due process, my recollection is the Obama fluffers rejoiced. I thought he should have been tried with capital punishment on the table as a penalty should he be convicted.

              I agree with you on this and this entire comment.

              My point was: Zeb was correct. Not stating the downsides dose not equal saying there are no downsides. And not stating the downsides is a very normal way for people to make arguments.

              1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                Often, the downsides were not omitted, but actively denied when raised.

                1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                  Yes, including by White Mike. Which is why I keep calling him disingenuous and he keeps pretending to be clueless.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    Do you expect MO to believe something from someone gullible enough to believe I'm White Mike?

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          "They commit fewer crimes than natives do." [except for the host of immigration- and employment-related, identity theft/fraud, and 8 U.S. Code § 1324 crimes that they commit basically daily even if they are otherwise fine upstanding human beings]
          "They use less welfare than natives do." [except that they're not supposed to be able to use ANY]

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Even the crime thing remains false. See the Lott study from arizona.

            But here again Mike once again tries to merge legal and illegal immigrants. The former have criminal records checked prior to entry.

            Mike also knows immigrant households use a higher percentage of some welfare program than citizens. He has been given the evidence dozens of times.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Mike said no such things.

      6. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        If there were downsides then you'd think they would be covered by responsible journalists but they ONLY push the positives, often in exaggerated terms.

    3. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      No sweat, historically the Germans seem to be pretty chill with poverty.

  14. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

    *Violent crime is overwhelmingly the work of a small group of repeat offenders—that is, it is highly concentrated.*

    If only society had come up with some sort of plan for dealing with this element in the last 10,000 years or so. Like some big, impermeable building to keep them all locked up in. Then the 99.9% of us could live in a better world where the toothpaste isn't locked up and taking public transit doesn't end in rape or murder. But alas, everywhere is exactly like Oakland and New York and none of it is related to politics.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      They want to reserve incarceration for those who violate "common sense", "sensible" gun laws.

      1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

        And for people who defend themselves.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Anarcho tyranny wouldn’t have it any other way.

    2. charliehall   2 months ago

      New York City has a low violent crime rate compared to most other US cities.

      1. Uilleam   2 months ago

        No it doesn't.

        1. Lester75   2 months ago

          Top 10 cities for violent crime:

          https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/most-dangerous-places

          1. DesigNate   2 months ago

            It’s amazing what you can get your stats to look like when you decide not to prosecute, or in some cases even record, crimes.

  15. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Major journals are now retracting all those 2021 studies used to demean ivermectin and hcq.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanam/article/PIIS2667-193X(25)00297-2/fulltext

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Ron Bailey hardest hit.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        I blame the raccoon dogs.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          Racoon dogs in trunks.

      2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        If only.

    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      What does this retracted article on the use of metformin for COVID have to do with ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine?

      1. Uilleam   2 months ago

        Disingenuous response from concern troll Mike.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I wish you'd at least tailor your insults to my comments at least a little.

          1. Uilleam   2 months ago

            I'm not sure how. Would you give me some examples please?

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              I owe you nothing.

              You've been nothing but a prick to me.

              1. Uilleam   2 months ago

                You'll get used to it.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  I am used to it.

  16. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Washington state moving to lower penalties for pedophilia.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/washington-moves-soften-penalties-child-sex-sting-suspects

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Is Shrike contemplating a move from Digshit, Georgia?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        His single wide roadworthy enough to survive being transported that far?

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Idaho will no longer extradite them back to WA.

    3. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      I thought libertarians were opposed to prosecuting victimless crimes.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Ive literally had this conversation with you before. Rare does the pedophile remain victimless. Often the AI is generated off the photo of a real child. And this law literally covers pedophiles trying to meet up with children.

        So I guess your stance is the child has to get raped first? Go with that.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          Yes, my stance is that a crime needs to be committed before a prosecution takes place. This is not just the obvious libertarian position; it's common sense. In these "sting" cases, there is no child, therefore no victim, and no crime.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Got it.

            Your position is a child has to be raped first. I'm stating this as clearly as possible. And you still dont understand how insane your view is. All while claiming libertarianism. Fuck the kids life ruined. You have principles.

            We also shouldn't stop assassins until they take rhe shot.

            We shouldn't stop drunk drivers until they kill someone.

            Shouldn't stop ID theft until a negative consequence occurs.

            Shouldn't stop weapons traffickers selling to terrorists.

            1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

              My position is what I stated, which is simply common sense and a belief in basic principles of justice and the proper powers of government. You, on the other hand, are babbling like a hysterical lib cat lady.

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Your position is that trying to buy sex victims is a victimless crime. The only way to satiate your position is to let a child be raped.

                1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

                  There was no victim. There was no child.

                  "a child has to be raped first."
                  "you want trans kids to kill themselves!"

                  Same shit.

  17. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Eric Daugherty
    @EricLDaugh
    BREAKING: Sec. Scott Bessent just STUNNED NBC's Kristen Welker on inflation

    "You know the best way to bring your inflation rate down? Move from a blue state to a red state! Blue-state inflation is half a percent higher!"

    Scott plays NO games!

    https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/1992609175550259447

    Almost like dem regulations add more to the cost of goods and energy. Who knew!

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Is there a correlation with wages?

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    "We had some interesting conversation, and some of his ideas really are the same ideas I have," President Donald Trump said of his Friday meeting with incoming New York Mayor Zohran Mamdani.

    Lol. Madmani is about to find himself in a struggle session.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Trump is brilliant. “He’s just like me”!

  19. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    We are nearing 1T for terrible results in education.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/study-k-12-public-spending-nears-1-trillion-us

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      End all govt funding of education. Today.

      1. charliehall   2 months ago

        There have been public schools in America for 390 years. You want an uneducated unemployable underclass, this isn't the right country for you.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          $1T per year and the results are an uneducated unemployable class. Your “either-or” strawman is noted.

          1. charliehall   2 months ago

            Funny the unemployment rate is under five percent. You lose.

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              Funny that 42 million Americans are on SNAP benefits. The True Rate of Unemployment (TRU) sits a hair below 25%.

              Again, you failed to address your “either-or” fallacy.

              1. Lester75   2 months ago

                25%? You must be counting the retired and mentally handicapped.

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  I’m not counting anything. But if I were, I’d lump you in the latter category you referenced.

        2. Super Scary   2 months ago

          "There have been public schools in America for 390 years."

          And how long has the Department of Education been around?

        3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          You clearly haven't seen the results of public education

        4. Uilleam   2 months ago

          You can't be a real person.

          1. DesigNate   2 months ago

            He’s a Harvard man!

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Once you crawl into bed with the likes of Tucker Carlson, you're stuck. What you told yourself was a strategic play for relevance can turn out to be a deal with the devil instead.

    I don't care for Carlson's current bullshit but I like even less having an Overton window foisted upon me. I'll decide what's verboten, comrades.

    1. shadydave   2 months ago

      This. Plus this always only goes in one direction: CNN can plaster Hasan "America deserved 9/11" Piker all over its channel, and Stephen "fuck the guy who was killed during the Trump assassination attempt" Bonnell can be on Piers Morgan every week, but Fuentes is of course the bridge too far.

      And again, Carlson didn't platform Fuentes. Fuentes already has a way larger platform than anyone at this magazine. The only way you're shutting him up is the way you shut Alex Jones up: by grossly violating his civil rights.

    2. Jim Conley   2 months ago

      Woke Catholics are the worst.

      1. charliehall   2 months ago

        You mean like the Pope?

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Exchange-traded funds investing in Bitcoin are heading for their worst month of outflows since launching nearly two years ago...

    jfc

  22. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Liz, going to point out again that your friend Dave Smith also hosted Fuentes. And it was friendly.

    1. Weigel's Cock Ring   2 months ago

      Smith is a real libertarian with principles, unlike pretty much everyone who works at this toxic waste dump of the mind.

      I thought that Liz W. was at least smart enough to understand that talking to someone doesn't necessarily mean you endorse every single one of their views, but I may have been wrong about that.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        It seems like Liz is required to link to the absolutely worst drivel posted on Reason in the preceding week. Probably because she gets the most clicks.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    North Carolina's Republicans aren't so sure about the federal immigration raids in their districts.

    Federales are seldom a good alternative to anything. Let's always keep that in mind.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Joy Reid moment of sanity? Almost, not quite.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/dmitri-bolt/2025/11/19/joy-reid-on-men-in-womens-lockerroom-n2666686

    Former MSNBC host Joy Reid admitted that if she were to see male genitalia in a women's locker room, she would "freak out." On Sunday, during her "Reid This Reid That" podcast, Reid was reacting to a viral incident that happened at a Gold's Gym in Southern California, where a woman was seen getting into a shouting match with a man pretending to be a woman who had been in the women's locker room.

    "I’m alarmed enough when I see a woman with her dangling boobies. If I saw a penis in the ladies’ locker room, I would freak out too," Reid said. "This is nothing against trans anybody. What it’s saying is if I turn around, and I see a pee pee – a penis in front of me, inside of the room, I would probably go to management and say, ‘Wait a minute. Why is there somebody — a naked man — in this room?'"

    "Because, just the world we live in, just from a safety standpoint, just from a privacy standpoint, I can see why she would have gone and reported to management," she continued. "Now if they clarified and said trans...okay, but I think they should take her concerns also seriously."

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Sounds like a transphobic prude.

    2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      She got caught up in the intersectionality struggle. Had to side with the black lesbian... even though they're lower on the victim hierarchy.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Pretty sure that's right. Plenty of straight white women and girls have put up with this but Joy was cool with that.

    3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Why does she hate the ladydick?

    4. Chumby   2 months ago

      So now she’s a biologist?

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "Now if they clarified and said trans...okay, but I think they should take her concerns also seriously."

      So if someone speaks the magic word, it's all good?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        The View really needs to get some hosts that are actual “chicks with dicks” instead of ones that just look like them.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      What it’s saying is if I turn around, and I see a pee pee – a penis in front of me, inside of the room, I would probably go to management and say, ‘Wait a minute. Why is there somebody — a naked man — in this room?

      OK, Joy, repeat after me:

      "Hey, what's that over there?" [tap] "Nobody in here wants to see that. Cover that shit up, dickhead."

  25. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Regarding incarceration of the few master criminals ... this has a lot more details:

    https://inquisitivebird.xyz/p/the-case-for-prisons

    One illustrative example: people who are imprisoned in the United States have typically been arrested many times. An analysis showed that less than 5% of people admitted to prison had only been arrested the one time that led to the prison sentence (Durose & Antenangeli, 2023). It was more common to have been arrested 30+ times than having only the single arrest that led to imprisonment. The median number of arrests was 9, and more than 3 out of 4 prisoners had been arrested 5+ times.

    Another example is that nearly a third of shoplifting arrests in 2022 involved just 327 people, who collectively were arrested and rearrested more than 6,000 times.

    He has another similar article; change the final bit of the URL to "when-few-do-great-harm".

    But perhaps the most illustrative study is by Falk et al. (2014), who used Swedish nationwide data of all 2.4 million individuals born in 1958–1980 and looked at the distribution of violent crime convictions. In short, they found that 1% of people were accountable for 63% of all violent crime convictions, and 0.12% of people accounted for 20% of violent crime convictions.

    Another notable fact: approximately half of violent crime convictions were committed by people who already had 3 or more violent crime convictions. In other words, if after being convicted of 3 violent crimes people were prevented from further offending, half of violent crime convictions would have been avoided.

    It is clear that people tend to have many arrests before being incarcerated. The data show, among persons admitted to state prison, more than 3 out of 4 have at least 5 prior arrests, including the arrest that resulted in their prison sentence. Going further into the tail: 46% (almost 1 in 2) had 10 or more prior arrests, 14% (1 in 7) had 20 or more prior arrests, and 5% (1 in 20) had 30 or more prior arrests. Indeed, having 30 or more prior arrests when admitted to state prison was more common than having no arrest other than the arrest that led to the prison sentence (i.e., 1 prior arrest). Further, it was more common to have 9 or more prior arrests than it was to have 8 or fewer.

    A particular incident vividly illustrates of how few people can be responsible for a large fraction of crime. In Leinster, Ireland, the number of burglaries plummeted after three criminals died in a car crash. These three criminals together had more than 200 previous convictions. Similarly, in London local bike thefts fell by 90% as 11 individuals (not 11 percent) from a bike theft gang were caught in a single police shift.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Were those 11 people arrested for running a monopoly?

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        Somehow, they all dipped into the community chest for that get out of jail free card.

  26. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    DOGE isn’t doomed, by an actual libertarian.

    https://x.com/ludwignvermises/status/1992970355632111743?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    I am very confused by how even admin friendly people are jumping on the DOGE failed bandwagon.

    Is there no media coordination?

    I have spoken to top people in various agencies and integration was only ever discussed in the context of excitement about being able to get deeper into the orgs once DOGE finished merging.

    DOGE was always supposed to integrate with the agencies that’s how they can actually get the data and figure out what’s going on.

    Completing it ahead of time is a good thing. The first step was just mapping org charts. These agencies are intentionally opaque as a defense mechanism against change.

    They are doing massive reviews of not only personal but regulations. Who else will identify the regulations that violate Trumps executive orders around the 10th amendment?

    15% of the federal workforce has been fired, rules are being slashed and authority returned to the states.

    I’ve written decision trees for identifying counter productive regulation through AI and people are black pilling?

    It was the plan to integrate DOGE from the beginning. It’s a good thing. People complained that DOGE would not be absorbed and will create a new permanent agencies. Now the problem is DOGE will be absorbed? Make up your minds people…

    Also the promise of DOGE was never in congress dependent spending cuts. The point of DOGE is to cut massive amounts of bureaucracy through the executive.

    Weird no one knows this, people are fundamentally unserious. Politics isn’t just supposed to be about low info complaining. It’s about figuring stuff out, doing things and winning.

    Take some agency and actually be helpful instead of shouting doooom dooom on the street. The homeless already have that market cornered.

    IMHO, KMW should be replaced by someone like Austin.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Doge was declared dead when Elon left. He left on the date scheduled when he took the position and he couldn't legally work as a temporary employee beyond that point. No rational person believed that he would single handedly incorporate Doge into the departments and it's pretty obvious that it will take a bit of time to begin seeing the benefits. Reason features articles about tariffs and ICE every day but not a word about cutting regulations and federal employees.

      1. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Revealed preferences.

    2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Audits and ability to do so are anti libertarian.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Has a district judge weighed in on this?

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Look. If they can't pay off the debt in eleven months why bother.

  27. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Reason:
    "It's not as though [Tucker] Carlson's decision to platform [Nick] Fuentes

    Some how also Reason:
    Most Americans Think Free Speech Is on the Decline

  28. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    Greene struck predictably populist America First notes ("Americans' hard-earned tax dollars always fund foreign wars, foreign aid, and foreign interests") and mapped her disagreements with the president ("H1Bs replacing American jobs, AI state moratoriums, debt for life 50 year mortgage scams, standing strongly against all involvement in foreign wars, and demanding the release of the Epstein files")

    Apart from H1b visas, Reason as posted articles espousing the same stance as Greene on all these issues. All the while railing agianst 'populism.'

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      I don't really have a big problem with MTG except for the Obamacare subsidies. And I think Trump's attacks on her and Massie were over the top. On the other hand they aligned themselves with some pretty unsavory characters on the Epstein files issue. It's apparently a moot point now and looks like the Democrats will be hurt the most. Reason of course will be disappointed unless it's revealed that Carlson and Fuentes took the Lolita Express to Epstein Island together.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        The list posted on a little “L” channel doesn’t include either as a visitor:

        https://t.me/LibertarianMediaResource/30700

  29. Marshal   2 months ago

    Greene criticized her own side for having no workable plan in place to prevent these higher costs.

    This sounds like criticism the left makes of libertarians, so it seems odd for a libertarian to "credit" MTG for this. Is "don't fuck things up" a plan?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Well Obamacare subsidies have demonstrably driven up the cost of health care. Maybe eliminating them would have the opposite effect? Sounds like a plan to me.

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        Is that what MTG wants?

        AI Overview

        Marjorie Taylor Greene wants to extend the enhanced Obamacare subsidies to prevent premium hikes for her constituents and others, a position that puts her at odds with many in the Republican party. She argues that, while she does not support the Affordable Care Act (ACA), the upcoming expiration of the subsidies will cause premiums to double, disproportionately hurting hard-working families, reports NBC News. She has stated her intention to "go against everyone on this issue" to prevent this outcome, says the Georgia Recorder.

        So by supporting MTGs criticism is Reason aligning with this? Or are they just so happy Trump is being criticized they don't care what it is based on?

        1. Lester75   2 months ago

          She's a politician looking to run for something better. The Obamacare subsidies were popular in her district.

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          That was actually my point. The Republican plan so far is not to extend the subsidies. MTG says they have no plan but they do. I'm pretty sure that the Republicans will vote for more Obamacare subsidies but right now the plan is to end the subsidies. So yes I can only assume that Reason supports subsidies and the inevitable increases in health care costs. Reason lost their beloved maverick when John McCain died and printed multiple tearful heartfelt eulogies. Will MTG be the new maverick?

          1. Marshal   2 months ago

            That was actually my point.

            I can't see how this is true. Reps want Obamacare subsidies to expire and MTG expressly criticizes this desire as "not having a plan". This is an odd thing for libertarians to agree with if they also want the subsidies to expire, so what's going on? Does Reason not want the subsidies to expire or do they support MTG because they support all attacks on Trump even when they agree with him on the underlying policy?

            But then you chime in to claim allowing them to expire is a plan. Great! But that's exactly the opposite of what MTG asserts so why is Reason agreeing with her?

  30. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    T: Say Zohran, do you like football?
    M: Yes, Mr. President!
    T: Do you like taking over private companies using government force?
    M: I do, Mr. President!
    T: Do you want to come over to my house and watch football and plot the next business for the government to take over and drink beer.
    M: I do Mr. President.

    1. charliehall   2 months ago

      Evil conspiring with evil.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Are you some kind of retard or something?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Do you really need to ask?

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "T: Do you like taking over private companies using government force?
      M: I do, Mr. President!"

      You.
      Are.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit,

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Yeah, Mamdani hasn't done that yet unlike Trump. But he wants to.

        https://x.com/howardlutnick/status/1933924525265043774?lang=en

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Yes.
          You.
          Are.
          Full.
          Of.
          Shit.
          Fuck off and die, TDS-addled asswipe

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            You leftist are always wishing death because your ideas can stand.

            Mute.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              "You leftist.."

              Laugh riot, lying shitstain. Jam your TDS up your ass and then fuck off and die.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Him and stg dont understand what non voting stock is. They both keep screaming golden vote like it is China. Makes me question of they own stock.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Asswipe understands one thing only - Orangemanbad.
          Absolutely obsessed.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          Golden share is the term, I use. As confirmed by Howard Lutnick, see above. And it gives the federal government control over employment decisions; eg can't decertify the union (that has ruined US Steel) without government approval. They can't move operations to a less union friendly state without government approval. That's sure is a lot of control by using government force.

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          And your responses makes me question whether you get paid $0.50 per comment. Not once have you refuted anything of substance in my posts, you just taking a page from the leftist and attack me personally for being against federal ownership of corporations.

  31. Rick James   2 months ago

    disagreements with the president ("H1Bs replacing American jobs, AI state moratoriums, debt for life 50 year mortgage scams, standing strongly against all involvement in foreign wars, and demanding the release of the Epstein files") while touting her loyalty. Read her full statement here.

    What I find utterly fascinating about this is, every tds-addled journalist takes this moment to admire Greene while loathing Trump, where the core of the disagreement is, Trump has moderated and moved to the center, whereas Greene as remained more steadfastly MAGA (if I may use that term). All this does is prove TDS is real. The press should be celebrating Trump's move to the center on issues such as H1Bs, while denouncing Greene, but from my read, it's been the exact opposite.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      A Voight-Kampff test for TDS.

    2. middlefinger   2 months ago

      The requirement is taxpayer funded foreign entanglement money laundering operations to continue indefinitely. Neocons, neoliberals the WEF

      Climate colonialism the new term for foreign aid- -Gavin Newsom, Brazil 2025 Climate conference

    3. DesigNate   2 months ago

      It’s because all of their accusations are actually projection. In this case, they are in a cult dedicated to the hatred and destruction of Trump.

  32. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   2 months ago

    MTG is an example that even the most zealous MAGA supporter is not as beholden to the Cult as the leftists are to their Cult.

    Trump may believe that he is MAGA and whatever he decides is where MAGA will go. I'm guessing that he gets that belief from his many years as a democrat and how Cult like the democrat party is. Look at Fetterman who has not goosestepped to democrat marching orders and is being targeted.

    MAGA, Tea Party, Occupy Wall Street, MAHA, even Bernie bros and Mandami are reactions to the same core dissatisfaction with the ruling elitists, their endless spending and warmongering, focusing not on the citizens, but on foreign countries. There are disagreements on how to solve the domestic issues, but not that something needs to be done and the ruling elites are failing and potentially deliberately so.

    1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

      As I said before, Andrew Cuomo was the face of failure, just like Czar Nikolas II and whoever ran the Wiemar Republic.

  33. middlefinger   2 months ago

    Greene struck predictably populist America First notes ("Americans' hard-earned tax dollars always fund foreign wars, foreign aid, and foreign interests")

    Populist: Why am I paying federal income taxes?

    Reason: “STFU and pay your taxes”. Endless transfers to foreign countries are libertarian!

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Foreign County of Color (FCOC).

      GG coined that.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        I'll take it. Unless it was meant for someone else. In that case I'm stealing it.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Reason: And if foreign transfers aren't enough they can all move here.

  34. DesigNate   2 months ago

    “Greene criticized her own side for having no workable plan in place to prevent these higher costs.”

    If she really feels this way, then fuck her, she was no more “conservative” than John McCain.

  35. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

    Follow the money, someone bought her out.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Maybe she got a modeling contract like Sydney Sweeney and couldn’t do that and her congressional duties.

      American Beagle jeans

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        Plausible.

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