Americans Shouldn't Be Governed by People Who Hate Half of Us
Political hostility is intensifying and most partisans believe the other side is made up of bullies.
At September's televised memorial service for Charlie Kirk, President Donald Trump commented on the conservative commentator's character, saying, "He did not hate his opponents; he wanted the best for them." He then added, "That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponents. And I don't want the best for them."
Like too much of the political class across the ideological spectrum, Trump is prone to despising those he disagrees with. It raises questions about why people should ever submit to the governance of those who hate them—and whether politicians realize they're a big part of what brought us to this unfortunate moment.
"It's long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree," Trump had told the nation on the day of Kirk's assassination, at a perhaps more self-aware moment. "This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today."
That same day, Trump also put the blame for Kirk's murder on "the radical left" and promised to "find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity and to other political violence," hinting at something nastier than a criminal investigation.
Villainizing and disrespecting opponents are routine for the political class. In a bizarre address to the nation in 2022, then-President Joe Biden said "MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution" and "fan the flames of political violence." He had already accused his opponents of "semifascism."
Kamala Harris dropped the "semi" as the Democratic presidential candidate in 2024 and described her opponent as a "fascist."
Trump and his allies regularly accuse their opponents of anti-Americanism—"I really believe they hate our country," Trump said in July. Trump's 2016 Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, dismissed her foes as a "basket of deplorables," characterizing them as "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic—you name it." As a presidential candidate in 2008, Barack Obama sniffed at many small-town dwellers as "bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them."
No matter which of the big political parties wins national office, around half the people over whom the victors exercise power know they're governed by people who hate them—and they return the favor.
Among Americans, partisan hostility is intensifying. "About three-quarters (73 percent) of voters who identify themselves as Republican agree that 'Democrats are generally bullies who want to impose their political beliefs on those who disagree,'" a poll by the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics found in 2022. "An almost identical percentage of Democrats (74 percent) express that view of Republicans."
Maybe it was inevitable that a political culture that has normalized "demonizing those with whom you disagree," as Trump put it on the day of Kirk's murder, would turn to force to settle disputes. That has meant home invasions, arson, vehicle attacks, attempted assassinations, and murders, such as those of Yaron Lischinsky, Sarah Milgrim, Brian Thompson, Melissa Hortman, and Kirk.
Americans—people in general—should not be subject to the whims of those who despise them. We deserve better than to be governed by those who disdain what we believe and how we live.
For years, Americans have been moving to live in neighborhoods where they feel politically comfortable. "Our analysis suggests partisanship itself, intentional or not, plays a powerful role when Americans uproot and find a new home," Ronda Kaysen and Ethan Singer wrote in 2024 for The New York Times in a piece on Americans' moving patterns. "In all but three states that voted for Mr. Biden in 2020, more Democrats have moved in than Republicans. The reverse is true for states Mr. Trump won."
Instead of fighting with opponents for a brief opportunity to force policies on the unwilling before they do the same in return, perhaps our political class could turn its attention to those localities dominated by people willing to buy what they're selling. They could leave the rest of us alone to live by different rules. That was, after all, how our federal system was designed to work—as separate experiments in laws and governance.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "Politicians Make Political Tensions Worse."
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So we’re actually becoming increasingly divided along geographical lines as well as political differences. Guess that means we agree to disagree (federalism) or fight it out.
If our insane monkey tribes agree on anything, it's that they can never compromise or tolerate each other.
So the choice is really fight or divorce.
The best choice would be to follow a more libertarian model where neither side has much power and influence over your life. But I realize that's just fantasyland since neither party, and almost no voters, have any interest in that.
"has much power and influence over your life"
...like De-Regulating, Tax-Cutting and Abolishing agencies of the State?
It would help if people wouldn't let themselves be indoctrinated by the left.
That is one of the basic disagreements. How much authority over over our daily the government should have. What is the acceptable compromise on that question.
Fight. They get nothing.
Crooks was definitely a bitter clinger MAGA Republican and I’m glad he’s dead!!
So how do you compromise on, say, the right to bear arms?
We don’t. There’s originalism, and then there’s wrong.
I hate socialist and am not sorry for that.
Who are ‘socialist’? If you support unions are you ‘socialist’? If you are an old person who wants Medicare are you ‘socialist’? If you are on Medicaid (like a significant number of Trump voters) are you ‘socialist’? If you think insurance companies should be covering people with pre-existing conditions are you ‘socialist’? If you think Trump is stupid and corrupt are you ‘socialist’? As far as I can tell, for a lot of MAGA, if you are not in the TDS (Trump Devotional Syndrome) cult, they define you as Communist, never mind socialist.
you can choose to join a union therefore it is not socialism except where the unions have convinced the government to require you to join to make a living. Many don't want Medicare but are required to go on medicare so yes it is socialist but not by choice just like Social security is not a choice. the ACA is socialist but not my choice but I'm required to join.
Who is required to on Medicare, ACA, or Social Security? And no one is required to join a union. Just go work at a non-union shop.
Everyone. Did you think FICA was voluntary? Is that the new BS?
FICA is not going on Medicare, ACA, or Social Security.
We’re forced to pay for it, dumbass.
"Who is required to on Medicare, ACA, or Social Security?..."
You fucking pile of lying lefty shit, it's not who is required to 'go on it', it's who is required to 'pay for it'?
Get your goddam hand out of my pocket, slimebag.
What's Jeffster75 doing here, ChatGPT?
Lester isn’t just probing word usage—he’s misframing or reframing Adans’s statement to attack a broader target.
Here’s what’s happening rhetorically:
Straw man / equivocation:
Lester deliberately conflates communism and socialism (and even basic social programs) to blur distinctions. Adans made a clear statement, but Lester pretends he meant anyone who supports social welfare. This is a rhetorical trap—by expanding the category “socialist” to include mainstream views, he can make Adans’s position sound unreasonable or hateful toward ordinary people.
Moral reframing:
Lester reframes Adans’s stance as an attack on compassion or community values (“If you support Medicare or pre-existing condition coverage, are you socialist?”). This lets him cast himself as the moral high ground—defending kindness and reason against extremism—without engaging with Adans’s actual meaning.
Derision by implication:
By invoking “MAGA” and “Trump Devotional Syndrome,” Lester signals tribal belonging and mocks Adans’s supposed ideological group, rather than addressing the substance.
So in short: Lester is not genuinely confused about what Adans meant. He’s deliberately reframing the conversation to paint Adans as irrational or hateful toward mainstream beliefs, using a blend of straw man and rhetorical escalation.
Lester is conniving leftist trash.
Unions are not socialist. I don't know why you would think they were. They are, literally, companies. Companies neither the employees nor those represented by the union's employees own.
Welcome to the club, any decent person hates socialism.
What is wrong with socialism that rises to the level of "hate". And I do acknowledge that actual socialism leads to poor countries.
"What is wrong with socialism that rises to the level of "hate"."
Get your hand out of my pocket, you fucking pile of lying lefty shit.
That is not socialism, that is taxing in general, which every form of government has and can not be avoided.
Is it taxing for enumerated powers in the US Constitution?
Wealth-Distribution is socialism.
Get your hand out of my pocket, you fucking slimy pile of lying lefty shit.
You’re taking our money to give it to people who don’t pay in. And that just one problem. And don’t spect us to re-litigate the evil that is socialism for you just because you’re a goddamned retarded democrat.
First and foremost the National Socialist German Workers' Party.
And yes. They were very, very socialist.
And then all these genocides:
The Red Terror
The Great Purge
The Gulag System
The Holodomor
The Great Leap Forward
The Cultural Revolution
The Cambodian Genocide
The Arduous March
The Romanian Red Terror & Ceaușescu
The Ethiopian Red Terror
The Cuban Revolutionary Purges
The Laogai
The Kwan-li-so Camps
The East German Stasi Repression
The Vietnamese Land Reform Campaign
The Collectivization Campaigns
The Anti-Rightist Campaign
The Katyn Massacre
The Tibetan Cultural Destruction
The Baltic Deportations
And then all these terrorist orgs:
FARC (Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia)
ELN (National Liberation Army)
Shining Path
MRTA Túpac Amaru Revolutionary Movement
Sandinista National Liberation Front
Farabundo Martí National Liberation Front
Revolutionary Armed Forces of Guatemala
People’s Revolutionary Army Argentina
Montoneros
Revolutionary Left Movement
Red Army Faction (Baader–Meinhof Group)
Red Brigades
Action Directe
17 November Group
Irish National Liberation Army
Revolutionary Organization of Socialist Muslims
Khmer Rouge
Communist Party of Thailand
Communist Party of the Philippines / New People’s Army
Communist Party of India
Communist Party of Nepal
Japanese Red Army
Malayan National Liberation Army
Popular Movement for the Liberation of Angola
Zimbabwe African National Union
Ethiopian People’s Revolutionary Party
Somali Revolutionary Socialist Party regime aligned with USSR)
Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine
Abu Nidal Organization
Tupamaros
Weather Underground
Symbionese Liberation Army
May 19th Communist Organization
Black Liberation Army
Anti-Imperialist International Brigade
"...And yes. They were very, very socialist..."
Anyone who finds this surprising (turd and JohnZ, for example) is historically illiterate.
Ypu triggered Molly where he will retreat to his masturbatorium, plop his ass down on Dunker, and have a moment to himself.
Is Dunker similar to the Ass Pounder 4000?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u14w6WSFKaw
All I can say is... "Hang Mike Pence!"
Also, now, we are all to blame, to some extent, butt WHO is MORE to blame RECENTLY? When is the last time that a "Team D" POTUS slurpported hanging His VEEP, for the apparent CRIME of supporting the USA Cunts-Tits-Tuition, obeying the votes of the voters, and doing the RIGHT thing? I mean ethically-morally-legally RIGHT, not RIGHT-FASCIST-ANTI-DEMOCRATIC!
Weird, no commentary about the religion of peas that treats women as property and believes in executing homosexuals and transgenders. Numerous cities in the West are now muslin majority, and I look forward to your continued bleating about how Trump is to blame for everything.
SOME Muslims believe in executing homosexuals and transgenders. SOME so-called "Christians" believe likewise! And SOME "Team R" pro-political-violence people (sadly including Our Dear Leader) slurpport "Hang Mike Pence" and "Execute General Milley". 'Twould be nice if True Leadership (and SNOT True LeaderShit!) started at the top, and by example! Shit flows downhill, Wise Ones have been known to say!
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There are countries where being gay is illegal. Not a one of them is Christian.
Not a one of the gay people is Christian? That seems unlikely. Every Episcopalian is just a couple of drinks away from buggery.
Uganda (and other African countries) begs to differ. And it was illegal in many or most Western countries before they basically stopped being Christian, though not generally to the level of execution.
Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s altar boy.
Western cultural progressivism has done more to destroy the West than anything the Muslims have done. America's problems are primarily self-induced through cultural debasement by exactly those things you point out: feminism, homosexuality and transgenderism. What good is protecting a nation against so-called barbarism when the nation is already awash with barbarians?
Trannies didn’t kill 3,000 people in New York one day.
^+1
But it was so much worse when Mamdani’s aunt got dirty looks on the subway for wearing her burka. Even though she was working in Africa at the time and never wore a burka.
To be clear, we are getting overrun with barbarian warriors and barbarian simps. They are allies only in treating us as minions of the Great Satan.
Besides some idiots, mostly among the simps, they consider each other undesirables, to be eradicated, or reeducated, once they get rid of us evil oppressors.
Muslims are openly using western cultural progressivism as a tool in their war on western societies. They've openly stated this for decades.
Following the same playbook as Marxists. Just a different god.
The citizens of the U.K. would also like to chime in about the Muslim invasion but they're too afraid of being sent to prison for it.
demockracy, you know.
How about the Jews, John? You been a bit quiet about that recently. Trying to patch up that Nazi rep of yours, shitbag?
He does not have any actual moral opposition to militant Islamists.
At most, he considers them to be a rival gang.
Strange how he STFU every so often about "THE JEWS!!!!!!!!", hoping folds might forget his blatant bigotry, I guess.
Fuck off and die, asswipe, JohnZ!
I do not get why Marxists still side with Islam. They were VERY much on Khomeini's side before he conquered Iran. He was not much of a friend of theirs.
There is on city in the US that is Muslim majority.
Hamtamck, Michigan has a Muslim population that exceeds 70%.
Don’t you ever get tired of being such an ignorant retard?
Time for a national divorce.
Can I get that legal independence emancipation thing while mom and dad fight it out?
No. It’s time to drive the democrats from our country. America belongs to Americans, not democrats.
They get nothing. In fact, we should confiscate the bulk of their assets, as reparations for all the damage they’ve done.
Hey JD. Have democrats done anything to trump to cause trump to hate them?
What a weird article to write a day after Jay Jones, who wants to murder conservatives and their kids, gets elected.
But that's goo(D) genoci(D)e!
What a weird article to write a day after Jay Jones, who wants to murder conservatives and their kids, gets elected.
It also feels like, between Kirk's actual shooting and this election, this is the second or third time Reason and maybe even JD has tried the "Why does Trump hate the 110% of the population who opposes him (and democrats hate some things too)?" bit.
JD - Leftists hate us and want us dead. That's been made very clear the past year or two. How do you expect non-leftists to take that?
The actions of the left are becoming more violent as time goes by.
ANTIFA and other leftist groups will soon take up guns if they're not stopped.
Trump is correct, ANTIFA is a terrorist group.
Antifa does not exist as a "group".
Democrats exist as a group, and they just voted for someone who wants Reps and their children dead.
The DNC is a real organization. And there are many who have no association with the DNC that want MAGAs gone.
Maga is not an organization either, but you have no problem ascribing beliefs and actions to it. As usual you grasp as rhetorical straws because you have no logical arguments to make.
Left wingers like you are full of hate and it doesn't matter if you're in any particular group or not.
As usual MG is a lying pile of slimy lefty shit.
Almost as bad as your Nazi friends, right?
As a Leftist JD expects you to gleefully put your head on the chopping block.
Reluctantly and strategically?
"How do you expect non-leftists to take that?"
Don't be a fascist white Christian nationalist who is imposing your bigotry views on the country and destroy the US as a free country. Not complicated.
You've accurately described 412 people, why do you hate the other 70 million just as much?
It's amusing to be lectured on this particular issue by someone who hates everyone who voted differently.
Please note she does not define any of the descriptors Tony uses for anybody to the right of Trotsky.
"Why do those fucking Nazis hate us?"
I'm none of those things - not even one. The real-time projection from the left is unreal.
No one is doing any of those things, you silly bitch.
What you want is for us to hate ourselves like you do. No chance.
"...you silly bitch..."
It's spelled "asswipe", or perhaps "shitstain".
"Just agree with us and we will not kill you" is quite the sales pitch.
The left is now electing people who openly want to murder their opponents and their children. So these feelings have expanded beyond the activist base.
Clown show.
DJT: I hate my opponents.
JDT: Why do you hate me?
DJT: I never considered you to be an opponent.
JDT: More of a friend?
DJT: Less of a competitor.
Half the population: We support the "Good people on both sides." guy.
JD: Why does everyone hate half the population?
Sounds like a you problem.
Only 1/3 of the population supported Trump. MAGA seems to keep forgetting how math works.
And one third of the population calls everyone who questions the progressive agenda "MAGA".
What's your point, idiot?
Only 1/80th of the population supports your insane child castrationist ideology.
Math. haha. Nelson has forgotten how elections work.
You don't vote, you don't get a say. You don't count or get counted.
The voters voted for Trump. It doesn't matter what the other segment of the population that did not participate in the election wanted, what they want now that the results are in, or what you think they want now that things are not as you deem they should be. Those voters chose to stay out of the election. That would signify they accepted the outcome regardless of what it was.
Your math also assumes only those that voted supported Trump. Also a ridiculous, non-mathematical assumption. You must be one of the 'highly-educated' these writers tout.
If I Feelz it, it must be Truez. - rear-admiral Nelson
The central problem is big government and its ability to impact people's lives. Get rid of that and nobody will care about another's political opinions. Why do I care if you are a socialist if we don't have a government that takes people's property and gives it others?
That’s a reasonable approach. I wish politicians held it.
The problem is that socialists are not content just to live their own lives, they have every intention to force it on everyone else and by that I mean actual force. The Russian people know all about that.
Socialism is the first step to communism and with communism the next step is to exterminate all those who oppose communism.
Soviet Union: 50-60 million dead
China: 76 million
Cambodia: 2 million
There's your socialism.
You left out your fave buds, the Nazis, shitbag
Except nobody wants that. They like a powerful government because they can use it to smite their enemies. Trumpians especially.
Except nobody wants that. They like a powerful government because they can use it to smite their enemies. Trumpians especially.
The left's interpretation is that while Dems have been doing this for 50 years it didn't become a problem until Trump. Such facile analysis is why left wingers are functionally useless for anything.
"Democrats did it first. That makes it ok."
If you weren't a functionally-retarded pathological-liar who is allergic to the truth, you would admit that I opposed the Biden administration going after Trump because I did not like the precedent. But you're a functionally-retarded pathological-liar who is allergic to the truth, so you can't admit that. If you did your head would explode.
Sarcasmic truly believes this. The quote marks are merely performative.
He says as much in his statement.
you would admit that I opposed the Biden administration going after Trump because I did not like the precedent.
The idea was fine, it was that it opened the door for the same treatment by Trump once he got back in. And Trump has no qualms about doing it loudly and proudly, not in some clandestine fashion with the MSM running constant cover.
Repubs did it first never seems to make the sarcasmic playbook around here.
I did not want the USA to become a banana republic where every outgoing administration has to flee the country for fear of being imprisoned or killed, while you and the rest of Trump's defenders celebrate that that's what this nation is becoming.
Anyone who opposes weaponizing government understands those who do so have to be removed or they will do it again. To normals that's why kicking them out is the proper action.
By contrast people who want government weaponized want the people who have done so retained.
The last administration ended it's term by pardoning its friends and family on the way out. The bananas are ripe now. It was celebrated already when the other side tried to jail the outgoing president and use a soft coup to drive him out.
No one is celebrating the nation's demise. Just wondering why it took so long to bring it into the light and marveling at the amount of people who choose to embrace the darkness in spite of the evidence that has shown itself over the last eight years.
The cat is out of the bag now. Too late.
"Democrats did it first, and therefore only Democrats should be allowed to continue" is Sarc's belief.
If sarc were slightly less retarded he would recognize I am describing reality, not approving it. But his personal hatred and lack of integrity prevent him from reaching any conclusion which doesn't blame those he hates most.
Like I said, if you were to admit the truth your head would explode. So you instead argue against a caricature that only exists in the demented minds of you and the rest of your fellow Trump defending haters, as opposed to anything remotely connected to reality.
Just yesterday sarc was whining that others shouldn't address people at all, just the policies. But that was his standard for other people he would never apply to himself.
Remember, Principals not Principles.
In truth sarc engages in personal attacks because he'll do anything to ensure the discussion is not about the facts or theories damaging to the left. If that means he has to have a middle school meltdown then that's what he does.
Because Socialists are incapable of agreeing with your "get along" mentality. It is anathema to them.
How about "Americans should not be governed by ANYBODY, at least in the sense of huge bureaucratic systems, spending 40% of GDP, and imposing a partisan ideology"?
Can somebody tell Reason about this crazy idea call libertarianism?
That ship has sailed.
Libertarianism requires an impartial press and fair elections.
It also requires an interested populace. And as much as we might hate it, you have to recognize almost nobody else wants that. 90+% of voters are looking for mommy government to make their booboos better. They only disagree about which booboos.
Yeah, I hate to say it, but that's pretty much the situation. Most people don't actually want freedom in a libertarian sense. They just like the word. Argentina gives some hope, but things have to get a lot worse before we'll ever get there. And it's not clear if Milei will be able to hold on long enough to really change things. And then once people feel comfortable enough again to forget the recent past, they will start demanding more from government.
^^
Wind, meet whirlwind.
To quote Toyota from the mid-seventies, "You asked for it, you got it".
How's that strategic and reluctance working out for you now?
Americans—people in general—should not be subject to the whims of those who despise them.
And we won't tolerate it for long. Continued false accusations and murdering the Right will have a reckoning. When the next democrat regime takes power, all of America will see the organized vilification of conservatives. 50% of the population will cheer and call for some sort of segregation or worse. Then we know.
What false accusations?
How about Biden's 2012 claim that "Mitt Romney Republicans want to put ya'll [blacks] back in chains" returning them to literal slavery, asswipe?
Every other word out of the filthy left's mouths are Nazi, fascist, racist, homophobe etc. Whatever it takes for your kind to justify murder.
That's funny coming from a guy who probably has a few illegals buried someplace on his property.
Bookmarked.
Remember "othering", "depersonification", and "lived experiences"?
Apparently, they "from the river to the sea"-ed that shit.
Also “deplorable”
Fuck off you commie apologist. Every last thing you cite is a response to Leftist actions indicating how much they hate conservatives all to the thunderous applause of Leftist support in the political and media class so again, you can fuck right off with your DARVO journalism.
People in western Europe know all about leftist violence especially in Germany where leftist violence has worsened lately. ANTIFA needs to be snubbed out but first, those who provide the funding need to be arrested and charged with treason and aiding and abetting terrorism which means the penalty is execution.
We know who they are. The government knows who they are and Pam Bondi, Kash Patel and Dan Bongino need to get their arse in gear and start making arrests.
Make an example of Georgey Swartz and his smelly little offspring Alex. Then go after the others no matter how wealthy they are.
Round 'em up, give them a quick trial then hang 'em.
How often has there been leftist violence in Germany this past year?
Tell us how you feel about the Jewish people herr StormTrooper.
Jd nice take on leftist subhuman kills a conservative, Republicans pounce!
Fuck you, go to Canada and ask for maid.
That goes for every leftist
Oh, *now* you are against the ruling class hating you.
"...Political hostility is intensifying and most partisans believe the other side is made up of bullies..."
As was shown during Trump's first term, those on the right are correct about those on the left.
The left will go to any extreme to harm those on the right.
I made an error when I stated ANTIFA will take up guns....they already have and it's only time before they actually use them, when that happens, expect all hell to break loose.
When is team Trump going to shut them and their money trail down?
Don’t worry the Proud boys and J6 heroes will storm their moms basements and shoot them in their hoodies while they are relaxing and smoking their perscription weed.
I hope you're right.
Hating and bullying is almost entirely the domain of the left, they fucking campaign on it. Everyone knows this. There is no whataboutism.
The left is particularly hateful, I agree (and particularly ignorant in their hate, see 5.56). I think we are seeing more of it from the right, though. Which maybe is justified, and certainly is expected. Maybe I'm just too nice, but I still think we need to be talking and trying to understand those who disagree more (and I do think this is more of a problem for the left too, in part because they have been culturally dominant for so long and don't have to be exposed to actual thoughtful right wingers if they don't want to).
The fuck are you talking about? Trump kicked off his campaign by saying "I am your retribution!" He ran on getting revenge on Democrats, and he's followed through on that promise with kangaroo court prosecutions of his enemies. Everyone knows this. Or are you saying it's ok because Democrats did it first. (no question mark because it's rhetorical)
Remember Emmanuel Cafferty?
Remember you and democrats kicking off burdens presidency celebrating a murder?
Why is your fucking biggest principle not holding democrats who abused government powers accountable?
Instead of fighting with opponents for a brief opportunity to force policies on the unwilling before they do the same in return, perhaps our political class could turn its attention to those localities dominated by people willing to buy what they're selling. They could leave the rest of us alone to live by different rules.
This can't work, because the grasshoppers of the world need to be able to control the labor and wealth that the ants create.
Yes. Problem is, hate feels cathartic in the moment. It's also blinding and if you find yourself swept up in an Orwell-like "Five Minutes of Hate" it's a reason to check yourself, but too few people realize that...
Time for this article was in 2008, since the left has graduated from rhetoric to political assassinations.
JD the democrats called the right "Bitter clingers" is that the worst he could find, Many have called for more killings and used lawfare against not just right leaning politicians but even their families and their lawyers and common people who were just at the J6 riots who never even went into the building. Hillary Clinton didn't just say deplorable she said they need to be sent to reeducation camps. the left absolutely would put anyone they don't like in jail and even fire people for disagreeing not just about covid but also have fired people who question climate change.
Americans Shouldn't Be Governed by People Who Hate Half of Us
Correction: Americans shouldn't be governed by people who hate America and Americans.
And while proggies may be quick to cry, "But we're the real Americans" - this is demonstrably false. This was a perfect example yesterday.
Actually it does have a culture. A very American culture. Yes, it welcomes in many aspects from many other cultures - but while preserving the core of America that lets ONLY the positive aspects of cultures thrive where they'd otherwise fail completely; while rejecting the rest completely.
And that's what proggies - enough, call a spade a spade, they're socialists - hate: the core. It's not individual God-given rights to be respected to them; it's social values and traditions to be weaponized against the American people.
The problem isn't that the socialists hate half the country, JD. It's that they hate ALL of it.
Oh, sure, like you and your father haven't written similarly.
In a bizarre address to the nation in 2022, then-President Joe Biden said "MAGA Republicans do not respect the Constitution" and "fan the flames of political violence." He had already accused his opponents of "semifascism."
Reason still refuses to bring up Biden's 2012 claim that Mitt Romney Republicans want to "put ya'll [blacks] back in chains" returning them to literal slavery. This is probably because they've been invested in the fantasy that Biden was a moderate and the truth wouldn't support that.
The only people describing Biden as moderate are too ignorant of his history to be taken seriously ever again.
He was never a moderate. He was a grandstanding blowhard on his best day in the Senate.
"semifascism."
Damn straight. No cabovers, one pure race of long-nosed Peterbilts the way God intended.
"We deserve better than to be governed by those who disdain what we believe and how we live."
This is false on the face of it. What anyone deserves is mostly defined by what we achieve for ourselves. For example, if I treat everyone I meet with respect, then I deserve respect in return. If I try to impose socialism on everyone using the power of government no longer restrained by the principles encoded in the Constitution, I deserve the consequences of the destruction of government limitations. If two powerful foes of Constitutional rights demonize each other in a struggle for power over the machinery of government, there is no reasonable expectation that peace will ensue.
You demand respect? Why?
This is why. And how:
https://sacred-texts.com/oto/lib77.htm
1. I agree the political divide between Americans is widening.
Then the questions become, how to resolve this division, if the division cannot be resolved, then what, if the differences cannot be answered, then would a national divorce be possible, if so, and how can the divorce be implemented especially without violence. who or what makes these decisions, etc.
2. Does anyone out there have any suggestions other turning our great republic into a totalitarian Stalinist slave state or having another bloody civil war, because I don't have an answer to these questions.
Return to the concept of a union of states rather than a monolith ruled by 539 and their benefactors.
How? I can't tell you.
Repeal the Amendment that made Senators be popularly voted. That would be a huge plus for this.
At least we know how the gap is widening:
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/04/28/21/57173477-0-image-a-15_1651176353921.jpg
It's wrong to focus on the politicians rather than the movements since politicians will only be successful when their ideas are already widely shared.
Further it's wrong to claim this is an equal side problem, in reality it was an action and reaction. As liberals abdicated control of our institutions to the far left in the post-Vietnam Era the left's first act was to drive out cons (and libertarians, they largely don't distinguish between these groups) using a program of hate and discrimination. The fact that those being discriminated against eventually realized this and reacted was entirely predictable. The strange thing is that no one at Reason cared until the reaction was successful with Trump.
"But Mommy, he started it!"
Sarc believes accurately understanding reality is irrelevant to fixing it. That's because he doesn't want it fixed, he just wants cons punished.
^^ Boys and girls, this is what projection looks like. ^^
Notice he cannot find anything substantive to criticize so he tries blanket characterizations unsupported by anything.
He's just trolling.
So iut was wrong to retaliate against the attack on Pearl Harbor?
Or Fort Sumter?
False equivalency for the win!
That really should be your mantra.
But mommy, he reacted to me. He cant do that. Ignore what the NAP means.
Everything you write is in defense of not holding democrats accountable.
The democrats hate the Republicans
The Republicans hate the democrats
The leftists hates the MAGAs, and
Everybody hates the libertarians!
You forgot one.
MAGAs hate the 2/3 of the country that didn't support Trump.
Yeah. Rand Paul would've Made America Great Again better.
But Rand Paul wasn't on the ballot at the last election.
Maybe they hate the 2/3rds because they'd rather support Socialism than Trump.
...because to them (fitting with the socialist-gang) it's about WHO not WHAT.
...and Self-Projecting their BS onto everyone else in sight.
Oh, bullshit. I have friends who voted for trump. They are aware that I don’t vote. They are still my friends.
You’re a fucking idiot, dude. Maybe you should actually meet a maga someday, you hysterical bitch.
Even fetterman knows this.
You're replying to sarc. A bigger waste of time does not exist.
I will buy that the violence is a "both sides" problem when progressives need armed security to have conversations on college campuses.
You supported a murder simply because she was conservative. You really are a piece of shit sarc.
You've celebrated every abuse up to murder against your enemies.
Everybody hates the libertarians!
Paraphrasing from Bjarne Stroustrup:
There are only two kinds of politicians: the kind that people try and assassinate repeatedly and the kind that nobody votes for.
NATIONAL BROTHERHOOD WEEK
words and music by Tom Lehrer
Oh, the white folks hate the black folks,
And the black folks hate the white folks.
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule.
But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
Lena Home and Sheriff Clarke are dancing cheek to cheek. (*) ·
It's fun to eulogize ·
The people you despise,
As long as you don't let 'em in your school.
Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks,
And the rich folks hate the poor folks.
All of my folks hate all of your folks,
It's American as apple pie.
But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans 'cause it's very chic.
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can't stand.
You can tolerate him if you try.
Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Moslems,
And everybody hates the Jews.
But during National Brotherhood Week,
National Brotherhood Week,
It's National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you.
It's only for a week, so have no fear.
Be grateful that it doesn't last all year!
(*) This line has been replaced many times
by one with different appropriate pairings.
If you are not familiar with Tom Lehrer, you should be: https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL520FA475863B4C0C
The enemy is determined by which of the (2) versions of a USA you believe in.....
- The [D]emocratic [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] Empire.
- The *Constitutional* Republic.
Make no mistake.
[D]emocrats have/are implementing a regime change from an actual USA to a USSA (US Socialist America) and claiming [D]emocracy as the excuse to do it "mostly peaceful".
And that is where the tensions from both sides against each other sits.
most partisans believe the other side is made up of bullies
And most of the middle of spectrum believe the active partisans of both persuasions are bullies who will ram their views down the throats of everyone else the moment they get a chance.
This is why the Senate has a filibuster; to keep the extremes from getting too far out there in what is actually turned into law. I'd suggest the House might also use the same tool, and perhaps even SCOTUS could require a 6/3 split for a win. This is supposed to be a republic; pure democracy leads empire of some sort just about every time.
"...And most of the middle of spectrum believe the active partisans of both persuasions are bullies who will ram their views down the throats of everyone else the moment they get a chance..."
Tell us about those attempting to kill Trump and the killer of CK, please.
Or you could STFU about your bogus "equivalences".
For a conservative to enter a college to simply TALK to progressives, millions in security is required due to the inevitable violence that will entail unless armed guys are standing around to stop it.
It is not required, at all, the other way around.
And when I see a progressive murdered for talking to people, I will consider this equivalence.