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Reason Roundup

Trump: Government Shutdown Could Do 'A Lot of Good'

Plus: Addressing "the enemy within," the FTC's pointless meddling, Joy Reid finally understands half the country, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.1.2025 9:30 AM

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Welcome to the club: President Donald Trump says "a lot of good" might come from the government shutdown.

"We can get rid of a lot of things that we didn't want and they'd be Democrat things," Trump told the press on Tuesday. "They just don't learn. So we have no choice. I have to do that for the country."

I don't think he's totally wrong. And now we're getting what he wants (what we all want?) since the federal government shut down at the start of today—though, to be clear, this is a misnomer, since shutdowns are always just partial, with "essential" government services preserved and most employees just furloughed, granted back pay later on once the government reopens. ("The worst that happens is that some people are inconvenienced for a few days," writes Reason's J.D. Tuccille, "as the only things that really cease to function are public-facing operations such as parks and offices—deliberately so, to maintain the illusion that something important is happening.")

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"In back-to-back Senate votes that reflected how acrimonious the funding dispute has become, each party blocked the other's stopgap spending proposal, just as they had earlier in the month," reports The New York Times. "On a 55-to-45 vote, the G.O.P. plan, which would extend funding through Nov. 21, fell short of the 60 needed for passage. Republicans also blocked Democrats' plan, which would extend funding through the end of October and add more than $1 trillion in health care spending, in a 47-to-53 vote."

This time, a shutdown might be different since Trump has made clear he's looking to use this opportunity to make more permanent cuts to the federal work force and its many, many functions. An Office of Management and Budget memo says that "agencies are directed to use this opportunity to consider Reduction in Force (RIF) notices for all employees in programs, projects, or activities (PPAs) that satisfy all three of the following conditions: (1) discretionary funding lapses on October 1, 2025; (2) another source of funding, such as H.R. 1 (Public Law 119-21) is not currently available; and (3) the PPA is not consistent with the President's priorities.…Once fiscal year 2026 appropriations are enacted, agencies should revise their RIFs as needed to retain the minimal number of employees necessary to carry out statutory functions." This type of directive is not customarily given out, and indicates that the president is looking at the shutdown rather differently than have past presidents in recent memory.

Certain benefits will continue to be administered: Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, and assistance for Veterans. The Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program will not be affected initially, but could be if the shutdown goes on for a long time. The federal Women, Infants and Children (WIC) program will not be able to accept any new applicants starting today. In the past, "inspections of chemical factories, power plants, oil refineries and water treatment plants were disrupted because the Environmental Protection Agency furloughed most of its employees in charge of monitoring pollution and compliance," reports the Times. "Some routine food safety inspections also stopped."

National parks have previously had their operations hobbled; open-air sites will probably stay open but visitors centers or other areas that need staffing will shut down. The Department of the Interior says that restrooms will be cleaned and garbage will be collected, per NBC News—possibly a Trump directive aimed at ensuring there's no malicious compliance from federal employees, performatively making quality of services worse so that public sentiment sours on the shutdown, the way it did during the 34-day 2019 shutdown, during his first term. ("A government shutdown would leave our parks understaffed and vulnerable, putting our most cherished places and millions of visitors at risk. If a national park has a gate or door, it must be locked until a funding deal is reached and our parks can be staffed and protected," said the National Parks Conservation Association in a statement on Monday, calling the impact of former shutdowns "disastrous.")

Nobody yet knows the extent of the cuts, both temporary and permanent, but this is a huge opportunity for Trump to reevaluate what's truly in the interest of the American people. I'm hoping for TSA abolition. What's on your wish list?


Scenes from New York: Spotted in Gravesend yesterday.

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— Liz Wolfe (@LizWolfeReason) September 30, 2025


QUICK HITS

  • Yesterday, President Donald Trump addressed top military brass at Quantico and told them part of their mission would now be to fight "the enemy within" with some troops deploying in American cities. "San Francisco, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, they're very unsafe places and we're gonna straighten them out one by one," said the president. "This is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room. That's a war too. It's a war from within." Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also addressed the assembled troops, mostly talking about the lowering of certain physical standards for members of the military by previous administrations.
  • Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry asked for the president to deploy the National Guard to New Orleans, citing high crime rates there. ("New Orleans residents recall how the national guard was sent into their city in 2006 in the name of crime control," notes The Guardian. "That happened on the orders of the Democratic Louisiana governor at the time, the late Kathleen Blanco, in the wake of an infamous quintuple murder—victimizing five teenagers—as New Orleans slogged through rebuilding from the deadly federal levee failures which devastated it during Hurricane Katrina in 2005.")
  • "The US Federal Trade Commission sued to block a partnership to make Zillow Group Inc. the exclusive provider of information on apartment rentals offered by Rocket Companies Inc.'s Redfin," reports Bloomberg. "In a complaint filed in Virginia federal court, the FTC said the partnership would reduce the number of websites offering apartment listings, leaving consumers with fewer places to search for and driving up the price for buildings that want to advertise." This is a little ridiculous: Zillow already owns StreetEasy (used by pretty much all New Yorkers to find apartments), Hotpads, and Trulia. And "in 2020, the FTC blocked CoStar Group Inc. from buying the company that then maintained Rent.com and ApartmentGuide.com. That company was later acquired by Redfin in 2021. Rocket acquired Redfin earlier this year."
  • This whole thread is interesting, on the recent (buckle up) Ezra Klein x Ta-Nehisi Coates interview that's been making the rounds, receiving lots of warranted criticism that the Democratic Party seems incapable of both self-reflection and understanding their opponents in any meaningful way:

Ta-Nehisi Coates and I agree that there is a line. When people cross the line, conversation between the two sides is no longer possible. That line for both of us is the dehumanization of others.

For me, that means celebrating their death, believing that the world is a better…

— PoIiMath (@politicalmath) October 1, 2025

  • I am actually 100 percent fine with this, she understands the plan perfectly:

BREAKING: Joy Reid warns Americans of MAGA plans: "No income tax, no regulations, earn as much as you want, and leave it to your children with no taxes, that's the world they want." pic.twitter.com/1kBkmk4EaZ

— Leading Report (@LeadingReport) September 30, 2025

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  1. Chumby   2 months ago

    Democide Party

    When they aren’t supporting the deathcult of killing unborn babies, or their rainbow cult warriors doing their thing, or their membership cardless Einsatzgrüppen (now) terrorist organization antifa, their candidates are doing this:

    https://dailycaller.com/2025/09/26/shelby-campbell-charlie-kirk-democrat-michigan/

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      When this done to the Left, Reason will be stunned at how horrible it is and wonder how it happened.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        (D)ifferent

      2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        Democrats wanted to kill you first!!! How dare you defend yourselves!

        Sar-fucking-casmic thinking he has the high ground.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Jeffy will then give a thousand word lecture about how self defense violates the NAP while filling it with obfuscation and bullshit.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            Perhaps he is compensated one Oreo per word posted.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Once again, Kirk's death showed us what the opposition is really like. There's no middle ground. These people want us dead. They want our spouses and kids murdered. It's not only the demons posting, it's also in the commentary.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Be fair. Many progressives will let you live, in some lower caste existence, if you submit to their rule and surrender all your wealth and autonomy.

        1. Zeb   2 months ago

          Secular Islam?

          1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            Yeah, you can live among the dhimmi.

          2. Longtobefree   2 months ago

            Except with the 'tax you to impotence' option for everyone.

        2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          Yeah, that's worse than murdered. That's soul-stealing

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Thomas Jefferson put it well.

            With hearts fortified with these animating reflections, we most solemnly, before God and the world, declare, that, exerting the utmost energy of those powers, which our beneficent Creator hath graciously bestowed upon us, the arms we have been compelled by our enemies to assume, we will, in defiance of every hazard, with unabating firmness and perseverence, employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves.

            - “A Declaration by the Representatives of the United Colonies of North-America, Now Met in Congress at Philadelphia, Setting Forth the Causes and Necessity of Their Taking Up Arms”, 1775.

            1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              employ for the preservation of our liberties; being with one mind resolved to die freemen rather than to live slaves.

              I'm quite sure the homicidal leftists (I know, redundant) do not realize the resolve some of us have. They think they can kill us and then mock us for mourning. Times up.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        "Don't forget that these people want you broke, dead, your children raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny"

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      My campaign is about community over corporations, compassion over cruelty, and people over profit.”

      I love this. She's cheering politically driven murder as part of her campaign for "compassion". There is no relationship between reality and how left wingers characterize anything.

      The good news is that the left's institutions support this complete lack of accountability and therefore leftists aren't good at hiding the difference between what they do and what they claim. As a result pretty much everyone can see it if they investigate even a little.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    President Donald Trump says "a lot of good" might come from the government shutdown.

    Three day weekend for all feds!

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      No pay? I LIKE it!

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We can get rid of a lot of things that we didn't want and they'd be Democrat things...

    You tried that but Kimmel is still getting money somehow.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      His contract is up for renewal next year

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        On The View?

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          He's too much of a chick to be on the view

    2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      He still had a contract, even if he was still off the air.

  4. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Hehehe.

    Andrew Desiderio
    @AndrewDesiderio
    Funny detail from inside Oval Office meeting:

    Trump tried to give Schumer & Jeffries “Trump 2028” hats. They did not take them.

    Jeffries then turned to JD Vance & asked him how he feels about that. Vance replied, “No comment.”

    Room erupted in laughter

    Andrew Desiderio
    @AndrewDesiderio
    ·
    16h
    Trump also walked some of the leaders/staff outside to the wall of former presidents. Trump stopped at the Biden autopen photo and asked them if they like it.

  5. Chumby   2 months ago

    Libertarian Moment!

    Hopefully the federal government can remain shutdown in perpetuity. Interestingly, the world did not stop when our top men betters were sent home.

  6. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Quiet Skies under Biden didnt just go after Gabbard. It included 3 congressmen, J6 suspects, people which didnt wear masks.

    https://www.racket.news/p/not-only-tulsi-three-members-of-congress

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Reason will be duly outraged eventually.

      Of this, I am certain.

      Totally certain.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Only if they find an illegal affected or if trump ends the program without asking congress.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          What if the quiet sky program banned a flying food truck?

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Still not as bad as what Trump did to Kimmel.

        — Sullum

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          Nothing is. Kimmel's suspension has replaced slavery and the Holocaust in his eyes.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...the only things that really cease to function are public-facing operations such as parks...

    To really hit you have to close off nature when the kids aren't in school.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Yeah, the Ds miss-timed it this time. And remember the one slimy pile 'will sit down anywhere, anytime' just so long as you agree with HIS proposal!
      That's 'compromise' to Ds.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Which is the opposite of how Democrats position themselves on rape. Imagine this conversation:

        Trump: No, I refuse to have sex with you.

        Schumer: I demand more sex!

        Trump: I already said no.

        Schumer: Let's compromise. I will only stick it in halfway.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Carol: it worked for me!

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

            Also carol: rape!

  8. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Comey plated the same friend/lawyer game as Hunter did when leaking classified information he claimed he didn't to congress.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/09/30/the-curious-tale-of-columbia-professor-daniel-richman/

  9. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Last year, Cox, a biological male, told Fairfax County rec center staff that he was a woman, and per Fairfax County’s transgender policy, he was allowed to use women’s locker rooms, which is where he allegedly exposed himself to women and girls, according to victims.

    Video obtained by 7News also shows Cox walking out of Fairfax County’s “Our Special Harbor Spray Park,” a water park designed for young kids with disabilities, and walking in the direction of “Chessie’s Big Backyard” playground.

    Following the major development that Cox allegedly kept Fairfax County children’s schedules on his phone, 7News Reporter Nick Minock asked Fairfax County Commonwealth’s Attorney Steve Descano and the Fairfax County Police Department if they were going to investigate and charge or indict Cox.

    Descano’s office didn’t respond, but Fairfax County police told 7News, “FCPD conducted a full criminal investigation into Richard Cox’s actions and there is no probable cause to support charges in Fairfax County at this time.”

    https://wjla.com/news/local/registered-sex-offender-richard-cox-arlington-county-fairfax-county-child-pornography-childrens-swim-class-transgender-policy-womans-locker-room-virginia-attorney-general-jason-miyares

    Soros DAs are evil. Always protecting pedophiles.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      First the came for the pedos and I said nothing, for I already had spb and jeffy muted

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        "First they came for the pedos, and I said nothing, because they got what they deserved."

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      Disabled Girls See Exposed Cox at Spray Park

      1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        His motto: “The girls love Cox.”

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      BUT PEDOPHILIA IS A HUMAN RIGHT!

    4. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Richard? Cox?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Dick.

    5. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      they dont have to say "biological male" anymore, that was defeated at the ballot box. You can just say 'a dude in a dress' or "a delusional man" or other more accurate terms for it.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        This guy didnt even wear a dress. He just told the shitlibs working at the places he was a chick. Then jacked off in the showers while watching underage females. He never even said sorry.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          Well, if he didn't say he was sorry...!

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Jeffy will just be beside himself.

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              When you’re that portly, you’re perpetually beside yourself.

        2. Chumby   2 months ago

          Yeah, but Charlie Kirk debated college students.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      per Fairfax County’s TRANSGENDER [full stop] POLICY

      Did you hear that ICE detained and released the same citizen *twice*?!

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Bunch of dumbasses in that thread including the author.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Inconvenience is a clear violation of the 14th amendment.

  10. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

    Awesome.


    BRITAIN IS BROKEN
    @BROKENBRITAIN0
    A Pub in New Brighton, England, has been renamed to "The George Orwell" and has the phrase 'Big brother is watching you' constantly projected on the side of the building

    Bravo to whoever is behind this

    https://x.com/BROKENBRITAIN0/status/1972428637073981645

    1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      Needs an image of Starmer looking balefully at you.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        He's in the vid screaming.

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      Snark is often a remedy for what ales you thought they need more stout resistance to globohomo.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Don't be bitter.

      2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        Keep a level head.

      3. NealAppeal   2 months ago

        I don't know, I'd probably get pretty hopped up at that establishment.

  11. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "...BREAKING: Joy Reid warns Americans of MAGA plans: “No income tax, no regulations, earn as much as you want, and leave it to your children with no taxes, that’s the world they want.”..."

    Am I missing a downside?

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Having to watch Joy Reid is the downside.

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      Sir, there are no downsides to that.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Sign me up.

    4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      But the government needs money!

    5. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      they literally make their opponents sound like the coolest people to ever live.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      She left off the part about being wholly supportive of hot women running around in whatever level of undress they desire.

  12. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Fnahisi cots is a literal black supremist. Yet he won't move to Africa because it's a shit continent

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      And to paraphrase Steven Crowder:

      "Blacks built America for white slaveowners. Africa ALSO had black slaves and black slaveowners. So, why did America develop into what it did and why did Africa devolve into what it is? Africa had black folks on BOTH sides, so it should be twice as good with whites not involved until later"

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Sowell often introduces the concept of "culture" when dealing with such issues.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          Offensive hot take: Africa post-colonialism is the justification for colonialism.

  13. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'most employees just furloughed, granted back pay later on once the government reopens'

    But totally not extra vacation.

    1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Something I found out this year. Government has a special award where they give government employees extra PTO as an award.

      https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/performance-management/reference-materials/articles/time-off-awards/

      Had a federal employee send his resume and he put this shit on it.

      Government is ridiculous.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        I bet you rewarded him with the freedom to keep searching for employment elsewhere.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          This is accurate.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            Did he learn of this when his mom called to check on how his potential hiring was going?

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Nah. He was over 30. So think he just told her about it after.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "A government shutdown would leave our parks understaffed and vulnerable, putting our most cherished places and millions of visitors at risk. If a national park has a gate or door, it must be locked until a funding deal is reached and our parks can be staffed and protected," said the National Parks Conservation Association in a statement on Monday, calling the impact of former shutdowns "disastrous."

    And totally not performative Resistance!

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      They could ask Schumer to stop filibustering funding if they are super concerned.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Just don't ask him to man the grill

      2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

        Filibustering it in order to protect a temporary subsidy for a pandemic that is over.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          And not even for Americans.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Just don't let the one guy in the entire parks department who knows how to unlock the bathrooms go

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      the parks cost next to nothing. Shutting park is always a performative act to create maximum sympathy

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Shuttering parks is one thing, cordoning off open-air monuments is another.

      2. NealAppeal   2 months ago

        Went to a national site in Wyoming that was "shut down" during COVID. Everyone just parked outside and walked in. There's no one there to keep us out.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          There's no one there to keep us out.

          They aren't that bright.

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    ' Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth also addressed the assembled troops, mostly talking about the lowering of certain physical standards for members of the military by previous administrations.'

    And by physical standards, does that include original genitalia?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Must have a member to be a member

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      This is my rifle, this is my gun muffin,
      One is for fighting, one is for fun stuffin.

  16. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    Now if only Joy Reid would describe the cartoon vision for her buddies on the left. Something like "true" socialism, woke "science", and no personal responsibility ever?

  17. Moonrocks   2 months ago

    part of their mission would now be to fight "the enemy within"

    Now? What happened to the decades-long battle against Domestic Terrorists?

  18. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    Documenting dhimmitude in Dearborn:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV4A3R_EjL4&t=1582s

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Deerborn pork throwing contest combined with a draw Muhammad contest

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        But no women allowed!

  19. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    "We can get rid of a lot of things that we didn't want and they'd be Democrat things,"

    Godspeed; for once stay the course.

  20. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

    "Epitaphs?"

    Roger that.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I'll allow it. He should know better, but accidentally swapping epitaphs for epithets is an understandable and minor mistake.

  21. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Handful of apartments...why bother?

    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/09/30/portland-police-chief-its-only-one-city-block-that-antifa-controls-so-no-big-deal-n3807336

    Portland Police Chief: 'It's Only One City Block' That Antifa Controls, So No Big Deal

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I guess that block is not in an insurrection or something.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    A government shutdown would leave our parks understaffed and vulnerable.

    Just like when I got out of the cold pool at that nude party.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      When going to a nude beach, guys should put sunscreen on before arriving. Otherwise, it looks like something else.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        That wasn’t a rock!

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      If only we could deal with all government so cooly.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Government needs considerable shrinking.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      It happens to the best of us, George.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    That's a war too. It's a war from within.

    Inside each United States are two wolves.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Defense [sic] Secretary Pete Hegseth also addressed the assembled troops, mostly talking about the lowering of certain physical standards for members of the military by previous administrations.

    Having standards is fascism.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    New Orleans residents recall how the national guard was sent into their city in 2006 in the name of crime control...

    Who could forget the rampant cannibalism at the Superdome.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Man I loathed Shep Smith after his "reporting" there.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        I loathed most reporters after that. The jackasses would pass along the most ridiculous unverified shit just to scare everyone.

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Joy Reid warns Americans of MAGA plans: "No income tax, no regulations, earn as much as you want, and leave it to your children with no taxes, that's the world they want."

    Joy Reid's brain has been tariffed.

    1. NealAppeal   2 months ago

      Technically that's what everyone wants for themselves...but not for others.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Speak for yourself! I'm 100% OK with other people paying no income tax, not being regulated, earning as much as they want and leaving it to my kids with no taxes. 🙂

        1. NealAppeal   2 months ago

          I'm with you but the envy class wants your money to support them...not their own.

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      And featheriffed?

  27. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

    We can contrast the results of shutting down to government and shutting down the private sector.

  28. Eeyore   2 months ago

    As far as pointless government theater goes, shutdown is my favorite show.

  29. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/01/trump-pharmaceutical-tariffs-pfizer-deal.html

    Trump’s Tuesday agreement with the company to voluntarily lower U.S. drug prices included a three-year exemption from pharmaceutical-specific tariffs, as long as the firm further invests in domestic manufacturing. Pfizer on Tuesday pledged to put $70 billion into U.S. manufacturing and research, on top of previous investments.

  30. NealAppeal   2 months ago

    "Some routine food safety inspections also stopped."

    Oh no! My corn dogs aren't safe anymore! Oh wait...that happened when they were working.

  31. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    "What's on your wish list?"

    Every single [D]emo(n-rats)(cracy) ILLEGALLY enacted [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire entity/agency that violates the peoples Supreme Law of the Land" over their government.

  32. Marshal   2 months ago

    It is also quite funny that, around 1:03:00, Ezra basically says that he wants to get back to a place where Democratic candidates happily lie to people about what they believe in order to get elected

    This is the key element to understand, and further this is why Jeffsarc comments here: to support Dems ability to lie by disrupting any criticism of the practice.

  33. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Des Moines school board chair ratioed by DataRepublican

    https://x.com/MsJackieNorris/status/1972671367368630615

    A leading comment:

    Sarah Adams
    @TPASarah
    ·
    Sep 29
    Wait—you helped appoint an unqualified, criminal illegal alien superintendent, massively overpaid him even when woefully under qualified, and now you’re fundraising off it? Not even a shred of integrity. Heaven help our students.

  34. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Kamala Harris lies again...cackling it up with the View...“By the way, another piece of what is unprecedented and a bit historical about that race, it is the closest presidential race in the twenty-first century, in terms of outcome,”

  35. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>This whole thread is interesting, on the recent (buckle up) Ezra Klein x Ta-Nehisi Coates interview that's been making the rounds

    if they didn't stab each other out on the lawn it wasn't interesting enough

  36. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>President Donald Trump says "a lot of good" might come from the government shutdown.

    almost 2:00 eastern where are my mass firings?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Yeah, one of the more notable features of the Trump GOP is that they're such inveterate cock teases. Don't blow a bunch of smoke about Total Bureaucrat Death if you're not going to follow through on anything other than a bunch of infrastructure bux.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        word. fuck you cut everybody.

  37. Uncle Jay   2 months ago

    I was hoping the democrats would walk out during the voting like they did in Wisconsin a few years ago.
    That way, real conservatives would defund the Commerce Department, the EPA, FEMA, the Department of Education, BLM and a host of other unnecessary, onerous and expensive bureaucracies as well as pull out of the UN and NATO.
    But, sadly, no such luck...so far.
    But who knows?
    Maybe the democrats will overdose on stupid pills and walk out.
    Time will tell.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Imagine shutting down the government because Trump wouldn't fund free medical services for illegals and $500 billion for NPR. Absolute galaxy-brained thinking.

      Honestly, they need to go back to what was the norm before Carter decided to weaponize shutdowns--just carry over the previous year's budget until they pass a new one. Don't even worry about the CRs.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Don't underestimate the number of Americans who demand the booty from Democratic grift.

  38. mad.casual   2 months ago

    When people cross the line, conversation between the two sides is no longer possible. That line for both of us is the dehumanization of others.

    [takes a toke so big off of a spliff so big that God himself would choke]

    Humanization is, like, a totally objective geophysical boundary man!

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      did anyone ask if it is dehumanizing to tell him his dehumanization line is the stupidest thing since Kamala last week?

  39. mad.casual   2 months ago

    Humanization is, like, a totally objective geophysical boundary man!

  40. jagjr   2 months ago

    "I don't think he's totally wrong."

    of course he's not totally wrong. even a broken clock is right twice a day. but we have substantial, recent history to show how he and his cronies approach cuts to government. so far, they have largely resulted in cutting the wrong things & having to rebuild those things, cutting things the wrong way & having to reverse course, arbitrarily cutting without a plan & having to change existing planning to accommodate it, cutting contracts that have already expended most of the funding & achieving no gain from it, and cutting contracts with big penalties & costing much more than letting them run their course. none of those are cuts that any of us should want, no matter how much we want to put our government on a diet. every single one of them costs the taxpayer more than the status quo and requires substantial management to resolve. doing it Trump's way is not a "better than nothing" situation. it is a "making things worse" situation. stop cheerleading making it worse.

  41. Wizard4169   2 months ago

    Why is anyone pretending that anything that comes from the shutdown will reduce waste? Any cuts will be about attacking those Trump sees as enemies. The whole DOGE farce made that crystal clear.

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