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Charlie Kirk

Gamer Radicalism

Plus: The sex scandal mayors, Hasan Piker's hypocrisy, cable host calls for killing the homeless, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.15.2025 9:32 AM

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What we know and what we don't: A lot of bad or unconfirmed information has been swirling about the ideology and personal life of 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, the person detained as a suspect in the assassination of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk. Let's try to see how much we actually know.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox has said in a press conference that Robinson subscribed to "leftist ideology" and that he was living with, and in a relationship with, a transgender person. Cox described Robinson as a "very normal young man" who had been "radicalized" after dropping out of college and moving back to southern Utah, where he is from. Robinson's alleged romantic partner has apparently cooperated with the authorities and provided private messages to them, and does not appear to have had any knowledge of the crime or any involvement.

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Some, like The New York Post, have really run with these breadcrumbs:

Charlie Kirk assassination latest shooting committed by trans people and advocates https://t.co/4eonu2CcjS pic.twitter.com/OrESw1Fn0J

— New York Post (@nypost) September 13, 2025

While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto and very little online posting to link him to anything like that (let alone this broader pattern that the Post is trying to claim); you need more before we can really determine motive.

Transcriptions found on bullet casings read "hey fascist! CATCH!" along with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols, and "O Bella ciao, Bella ciao"—a reference to an anti-fascist Italian leftist folk song that had a resurgence after being used in the video game Far Cry 6. The arrows at least appear to refer to a video game, Helldivers 2, and the controller moves you use to detonate a bomb. Other inscriptions: "Notices bulges OwO what's this?" and "If you read This, you are GAY Lmao." These all seem very online, and very gamery, and not even explicitly political, per se, other than calling his target a fascist.

Robinson was raised in a Republican, Mormon family, and his father turned him in after Robinson confessed to him (and after the father consulted with a trusted friend who is also a pastor). We don't know very much about why he chose Kirk as his target, but there's something very darkly sad and ironic about the fact that Kirk had positioned himself as a sort of therapist to the young and adrift, speaking charitably and thoughtfully to them during his "prove me wrong" segments.


Scenes from New York: Lefty boomers who left positions of power due to sex scandals involving members of their staff apparently feel like they need another shot at political office. No, I'm not referring to Andrew Cuomo, though this does all apply to him; I'm referring to Jim McGreevey, who is running for mayor of Jersey City.


QUICK HITS

  • The New York Times gave leftist commentator/Twitch streamer Hasan Piker an op-ed on our growing problem with political violence and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, whom he was supposed to debate later this month. It's predictably bad. An excerpt: "Any answer about civic decline in America also has to include a discussion about the failure of our political and economic establishment to reconcile with social challenges that have touched every place and aspect of American life. Too many examples of the deadly gun violence we see today are, it seems to me, indicative of this decline. The social challenges include rising rents and homelessness, the destruction caused by climate change, titanic levels of inequality, and too many others to name here. Our capitalist way of life—always accumulating, never evening out—leaves more and more people to deal with these problems on their own." But here's, maybe, the worst part: Piker has been an archetypal radical, repeatedly calling for political violence on his streams, over and over again. Case in point:

This is who just wrote a piece in the NYT on political violence pic.twitter.com/QaktdeNH0g

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) September 14, 2025

  • "The U.S. will go ahead with a ban on short-video app TikTok if China won't drop demands for reducing tariffs and technological restrictions as part of a divestiture deal, a senior U.S. official with knowledge of negotiations said on Monday," per Reuters. The deadline for a TikTok deal—a shutdown, unless it is sold to U.S. owners—is Wednesday.
  • Fox News commentator Brian Kilmeade made on-air comments this past week, in relation to the murder of Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, North Carolina, by a deranged mentally ill man on public transit, that those who are homeless and mentally ill ought to be euthanized by "involuntary lethal injection." Kilmeade then apologized for his remarks, saying he doesn't actually believe in that.
  • I'm not convinced we need to make lists of people who say bad things:

I've only just begun creating a spreadsheet of people who've said vile things about Charlie Kirk's assassination. So far, teachers and professors are by far the most represented. pic.twitter.com/B2h9H0EmvQ

— lisakip (@lisakippy) September 13, 2025

  • From Bloomberg: "What Declining Cardboard Box Sales Tell Us About the US Economy"
  • "Around 1,000 [LGBT] pilgrims gathered Friday in the 17th century baroque church [Rome's Church of the Gesù] to play music, pray and reflect, while on Saturday they processed to St Peter's Basilica, entering through the basilica's Holy Door, which symbolizes forgiveness and reconciliation," reports CNN. "The door is only opened in the Catholic Church's jubilee years, falling every 25 years, including 2025." The fact that the pilgrimage of gay Catholics was put in the official jubilee program is of some significance, providing an indication that Pope Leo might be following in his predecessor's footsteps—not changing official church doctrine, per se, but rather the posture or messaging toward gay people.
  • "The Trump administration plans to inject nearly $500 million into historically Black colleges and tribal universities, a windfall funded largely by cuts to programs elsewhere for minority students," reports The New York Times. "The administration will also redirect money to other political priorities for President Trump, including an extra $137 million for American history and civics education and $60 million more for charter schools." This amounts to a 13 percent increase in funding for charter schools.
  • Agree:

people often post this stuff to imply that moral panics about the technologies of the past were quaint. But the past is full of reminders that we are on a long, slow march away from embodied experience, and that we've lost more of it than we can even remember https://t.co/anUgdPJXjn

— Lauren Wilford (@lauren_wilford) September 14, 2025

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  1. Chumby   4 hours ago

    Clueless and Jobless

    Some folks that publicly celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk are finding out their employers don’t want to keep them on staff:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhRyrpQZWU

    Anyone upset about this is free to hire these lovely people at their business.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

      PrIvAtE cOmPaNiEs!

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      1. Chumby   4 hours ago

        Some were/are employed at public education institutions. In one case, the school hired a third party to evaluate what the employee did and whether it violated the code of conduct.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

          Did the school even ask congress if they could fire them?

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          1. Think It Through   3 hours ago

            Don't you mean the 9th Circuit?

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

              Think it is congress first. Then an inferior court judge. Then a liberal appeals court.

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              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   1 hour ago

                Doesn’t Demon Jeffy get a say?

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                1. Chumby   57 minutes ago

                  Tufts University should decide!

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                2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 minute ago

                  That's only after scotus undermines the prior 3.

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          2. Rick James   2 hours ago

            You mean did they ask a random district Judge?

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    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

      1) "LOL, no, people aren't getting fired for saying that Charlie Kirk deserved to be killed and that his family deserves to be, too."
      2) "Okay, there's a few instances of this happening, but it's a small number and not worth blowing out of proportion."
      3) "Yes, people are getting fired for saying Charlie Kirk and his family deserve to be assassinated, and that's a good thing."
      4) "This is old news, let's move on and focus on more important things going on right now."

      Pick whichever is more convenient to use at the time.

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    3. Michael Ejercito   3 hours ago

      They are from the same side that demanded that Emmanule Cafferty be fired for making the OK sign.

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      1. Marshal   18 minutes ago

        Cancel culture is not just people being fired for their words. There has always been near universal agreement that some words should result in firing. Anyone who advocated a return to Jim Crow would be immediately fired.

        A key element of cancel culture was always the unreasonable and bad faith interpretations of behavior and comments to mean something they clearly did not in the course of advocating or justifying firing someone. The claim that the OK sign is a white power gesture was made up on 4chan to mock idiot left wingers and media, proving they will believe or claim to believe anything they think will advance their political interests. This was known almost immediately yet the activist left still makes this claim. Cancel culture was the watering down of their action being reserved for truly reprehensible comments to merely anything the left disagrees with.

        This is why it is always important to make judgements based on the evidence and not the characterizations left wingers make. You can always identify the propagandists because they advance the characterization (Kirk is a fascist) and not the evidence of his supposed fascism (Kirk believes Americans have a constitutional right to own guns).

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    4. I, Woodchipper   2 hours ago

      I'm kind of at the point where I think 'well if it's war, then i guess it's war' and I dont care about canceling my enemies even though in theory, in abstract, i think canceling is lame.

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    5. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

      I watched about 30 seconds of the first crybully, and that was my laugh for the day.

      "Words are violence!"

      "Meet violence with violence!"

      "If someone is smacking you in the face ..."

      I bet she doesn't approve of self-defense for other people, like mugging or burglary victims.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

        The "it's okay when we do it crowd" always starts claiming oppression when they think you're stopping them from having their fun.

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  2. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    A lot of bad or unconfirmed information has been swirling about the ideology and personal life of 22-year-old Tyler Robinson...

    Let's call him MAGA and leave it at that.

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      There was a leftist website that photoshopped a picture of him to show wearing a Trump tshirt. S2 Underground covered that.

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      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   4 hours ago

        And it got spread far and wide on blue sky and reddit.

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        1. Chumby   3 hours ago

          Those sharing it get spread far and wide.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

            Akita nods in shame.

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  3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

    I'm not convinced we need to make lists of people who say bad things:

    You mean like a mute list?

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      She’s covering for Matt Welch.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        The Piker story was a red herring to distract from Welch's red wedding.

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    2. Idaho-Bob   4 hours ago

      I for one, do not want a medical "professional" or a school teacher, or a fucking barista that celebrates SPEECH MURDER anywhere near me or mine.

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      1. Chumby   4 hours ago

        There seem to be more than a few that don’t want their coerced taxpayer money being used to fund a public school employee who openly celebrates an assassination. The healthcare professionals having done that seem to have gone against their vocation where their standard of care could be compromised depending on what shirt a patient is wearing.

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        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   3 hours ago

          Similar to a cook burning a steak because someone ordered it the wrong way.

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        2. Juliana Frink   3 hours ago

          Some early 20th Century wisdom here (link to the full article below):

          "...That was an impression of Lord Moulton’s view of the Domain of Manners. As a practical matter, people who demonstrate that they will not behave decently cannot be expected to behave honorably, and if they cannot be expected to behave honorably, they cannot be trusted with matters of public importance. The doctors, nurses, lawmakers, teachers, and so on, who abandoned any sense of probity in order to seek affirmation from a largely illusory audience of progressives, have forfeited a measure of trust. They do not get the benefit of the doubt that they will refrain from harming those with whom they disagree. If trust is an element of one’s job, loss of trust is grounds for loss of that job.

          No one should go to jail or have to pay a fine for poor taste or disgusting behavior in response to someone’s murder. However, the experience of appropriate consequences imposed by businesses whose success depends on a favorable public image, or organizations whose credibility depends on ideological neutrality, is part of the practice of self-governance. Societies are entitled to discourage the glorification of harmful behaviors, such as cold-blooded murder, by any means that are legally allowed to them.

          Manners have purposes in a society, but even more fundamentally, basic standards of decency are a hallmark of a people who are worthy of living in a free society."

          https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/09/after_charlie_kirk_decency_and_the_response_to_murder.html

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            It’s a way to enforce manners and decorum. We haven’t really been doing such as of recent, which is bad as it’s let a bunch of people act uncouthly towards others and contributed to our rude society. I favor reinstilling manners and decorum into society and shunning those who are unwilling until they modify their behavior.

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    3. Ajsloss   3 hours ago

      At least this person posted the list.

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        We’re still waiting on Sarc’s list.

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        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

          We know the number 1. Unsure ranking after that.

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          1. Chumby   1 hour ago

            He HATES you and ITL. ML and RMac too.

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            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   15 minutes ago

              Sarc is not a fan of others calling out his bullshit.

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            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   4 minutes ago

              We were the ones who broke him.

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  4. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    We don't know very much about why he chose Kirk as his target...

    Living with a trans guy. Kirk spoke out against trans ideology. I know things are not always this easy, but this one really seems this easy.

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    1. Chumby   4 hours ago

      Some need a detailed tranifesto for dummies and even then they will ignore that to push their agenda. Still waiting on the Reason tariffs angle.

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        https://babylonbee.com/news/media-says-motives-unclear-of-killer-who-wrote-manifesto-entitled-here-are-my-motives

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        1. Mike Parsons   4 hours ago

          Democrats Wondering If Maybe They Should Stop Saying The Things Assassins Are Having Engraved On Bullets

          https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-wondering-if-maybe-they-should-stop-saying-the-things-assassins-are-having-engraved-on-bullets

          Weird that their entire side is pushing that he was far right while all also absolutely agreeing with the shooter...

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          1. damikesc   2 hours ago

            One of my arguments. If the shooter was a rightie --- why does nobody on the Right support it while the Left has more than a few supporting it.

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            1. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

              also one of my points to the reddit crowd, before it was confirmed

              Shooter: fascist got what he deserved
              The left: fascist got what he deserved
              The right: this is a tragedy

              Left wing media: Cleary a right winger

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      2. Ron   2 hours ago

        Considering how long they tried to hide a previous trans shooters manifesto, it wouldn't surprise me if there is one but they just won't let us know this time. conspiracy yes.

        speaking of Conspiracies i'm surprised by how many conspiracies there are already of alternate shooters and/or that it was faked and Kirk is alive and of course that the Jews did it of course also it was MAGA civil war etc.

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    2. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      Liz's hemming and hawing on his motive will age about as well as her the FBI hasn't caught the killer lead on Friday.

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    3. Quicktown Brix   4 hours ago

      If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it just might be a Haitian immigrant's dinner soon.

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

        Aw.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

        Just as broken as sarc.

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        1. Quicktown Brix   3 hours ago

          You're blind with hate.

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          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

            Says the guy on the assassins team, spending more posts attacking those critiquing those celebrating his death lol.

            Yeah. It is me. Not the party raising assassins.

            Youre broken Mike.

            But your entire shtick here is to distract from the actions of your party.

            Look at JDs thread. You and sarc acting like victims in a thread about an actual victim of your ideology and rhetoric. Just shameless.

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            1. Quicktown Brix   3 hours ago

              Here's a link for others to judge if I'm on the assassin's team or playing the victim.

              https://reason.com/2025/09/15/no-it-wasnt-ironic-that-second-amendment-advocate-charlie-kirk-was-shot/?comments=true#comment-11205797

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              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

                Look at your reply to sarc dumdum. Acting like a victim lol.

                Weird you didnt link to that one. Hmm.

                Didnt even occur to you to not jump on sarcs brokenness did it.

                God damn Mike.

                This is why I dont buy your bullshit feigning posts about Kirk. Especially as you've jumped on the j6 arrests even for non violence. Defended the babbit shooting. Defended going after trump and his lawyers. Pushed the fake electors. This is literally why I don't belive you actually mean what is in your post. That youre solely concerned about the optics of this shooting for your team. As soon as you can you jump right back to being the victim.

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                1. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

                  Didnt even occur to you to not jump on sarcs brokenness did it.

                  No. Because his point was valid as you're proving right now.

                  Especially as you've jumped on the j6 arrests even for non violence.

                  Nope
                  Defended the babbit shooting.

                  When? What did Insay?
                  Defended going after trump and his lawyersI say?

                  Nope
                  Pushed the fake electors.

                  When. What did I say?

                  This is literally why I don't belive you actually mean what is in your post. That youre solely concerned about the optics of this shooting for your team.

                  Projection. I have no team.

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                  1. sarcasmic   2 hours ago

                    Jesse's shtick is to lie about people in an effort to goad them into defending themselves. It's all it does. It thinks it's a master baiter, but it's just a monkey that poops into its hands and then flings it at people before licking its fingers. Before I muted the fuckwit I would break its comments down phrase by phrase, pointing out the lies. Every single sentence was a lie. And it'd just reply with the same shit. So now I mute it along with the rest of its poo-flinging gang of chimps. The comments are much easier to read.

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                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

                      The only poo flingers here would be you and your butt buddy Jeffy, Sarc. If you didn’t lie so often, no one would call you out on it constantly.

                2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

                  There you go again, resorting to cussing when plain words don't convince.

                  You are a liar, a hypocrite, and a suckass Trumpie. Your biggest fear is probably ever having to publicly admit Trump is a liar and ignoramus.

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      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        Which is interesting as the boyfriend not just thought he was a girl but also was a furry.

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      4. Eeyore   2 hours ago

        Ducks are delicious.

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        1. Quicktown Brix   2 hours ago

          Indeed

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    4. Mike Parsons   4 hours ago

      mostly difficult due to the weapons grade gaslighting from the young tankies (numerous "heres what a groyper is" articles over the weekend to throw smoke) and the ignorance of the boomers about the online world.

      They think every young radical dude online that is edgy is a "4 chan" guy, or now "groyper" thanks to the recent full court press gaslighing push.

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    5. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

      But he didn't have his tranny assissin I'd card so it doesn't count

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      1. Juliana Frink   3 hours ago

        The simple fact that we can even raise that point, and that we all recognize the absurd truth in it, illustrates the depth of the rot we must deal with.

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    6. mad.casual   3 hours ago

      It could've been Ben Shapiro or Megyn Kelly or Matt Walsh or Tim Pool or Candace Owens... I mean anybody really.

      We may never know why.

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      1. Juliana Frink   3 hours ago

        Indeed. And why Matt Walsh and not Matt Welch? I mean, they're saying he was raised by conservatives, Right?

        It's just so confusing.

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  5. damikesc   4 hours ago

    Given the power teachers have over the future of young people, if they are so damned unbalanced to post celebration of the murder of somebody, they really should not have authority over anybody.

    We are seeing an "industry" (education) with a deep and seething problem. It is time to rectify this.

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    1. damikesc   4 hours ago

      Hell, WHY was Kirk doing campus tours? Because educators refuse to provide an actual education to students.

      We are paying thru the nose for precious little benefit.

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    2. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

      Why have conservatives not pursued as many jobs in teaching? Unfriendly environment? More women teach, more women are left? People on the right would rather do, than teach? I'm betting a mix of all of the above.

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      1. Idaho-Bob   4 hours ago

        I knew an old guy who was a shop teacher back in the days when shop class was a thing. He retired early because of the hostility towards his politics. This was mid 90's.

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        1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

          Shop class is still a thing. At least for me it was. Wood shop in middle skool, Auto shop, metal shop, and robotics shop in high skool.

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          1. Idaho-Bob   4 hours ago

            My oldest took shop (welding, woods, metal) in 2010-11 but shop was gone by 2012. Small town Idaho.

            Robotics is still around.

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            1. Randy Sax   3 hours ago

              Robotic for us had three branches, programmers, electronics, and mechanisms. Mechanisms used lathes, mills, drill presses etc. to machine parts.

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              1. Idaho-Bob   3 hours ago

                The school I'm referring to - Robotics is now assembly and programming. No fabrication. It is all kitted parts. No creativity.

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                1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   3 hours ago

                  No creativity.

                  Creatively and conformity do not mix.

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            2. MasterThief   3 hours ago

              My high school dropped its auto shop the summer before I started 9th grade. One of the reasons I didn't choose to go to TJ was because my public school had shop. I was pissed.

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            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

              A lot of high school shop programs in the 1990s-2000s shifted over to vo-tech schools that catered to training students between 16-21 for blue collar trades. I think even the high school programs ended by the 2010s, though. Most of those high school departments are solely "business and technology" now.

              Shame, too. I took regular shop in middle school and auto shop in high school, and while I've never been all that great at such things, it gave me a better appreciation for how hard the people who do those jobs really work. I had relatives in the trades but they typically didn't talk about their jobs all that much.

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              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

                Which is a shame as a number of us going into engineering wanted to take some of those shop and drafting classes. Yet, because I was in the honors classes, I couldn’t do so. Do they think smart kids don’t want to take shop and drafting?

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                1. Zeb   2 hours ago

                  Honors track kids could take the shop classes in HS (in the 90s), but we had weighted GPA, so for kids on honors track, the classes would lower GPA even if you got As. Fortunately I had wood shop at home and I got more out of that than I would have in the class at school.

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                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

                    One of the funnier scenes from "Dazed and Confused" was Benny making his paddle in wood shop.

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              2. sarcasmic   2 hours ago

                Round here they have several of what they call regional tech centers where classes range from agriculture to welding.

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                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

                  Yeah, sounds about right. Same thing in Colorado as well, they just use the name of the old vo-tech schools for the same purpose. The ag part is limited to "horticulture," which we all know in Colorado just means "pot cultivation."

                  The programs have expanded a bit to include the "arts and tech" for stuff like web design or comm ops/computer systems control, as well as various medical assistant jobs.

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        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

          A lot of school teachers after 1970 were New Left or products of New Left ideological indoctrination. Most of the WW2 generation teachers, who were either conservative or at least old-line New Deal Democrats who hadn't been taught to hate the US, had retired by the end of the Cold War.

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          1. Overt   2 hours ago

            Additionally, the transition (hah!) of K-12 education from being populated by teachers with degrees in their specialty (e.g. Science or Math teachers having Science or Math degrees) to being populated by teachers with pedagogy degrees (Masters in Education) pushed the majority of people-who-would-be-teachers into colleges of hard-left, marxist education in schools that held all sorts of Critical studies professors.

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            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

              That's another good point. 30-plus years ago, I had high school science teachers who had MSs in their field and had simply gotten a teaching certificate, so they knew their subject matter back and forth. One even landed a fellowship for the summer at the hadron collider in Switzerland. The liberal arts teachers were degreed in their specialty, not in Education.

              The shift seems to have happened around that time when Freirean pedagogy started infiltrating the Education departments and it became about creating marxist activists, with the learning of the subject matter simply assumed. Now you have to major in Education and then pick a subject you might want to teach, because you have to get indoctrinated in these propaganda methods to qualify for your certificate.

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              1. Overt   45 minutes ago

                There was a big push in Education to distinguish them- much like Lawyers or Doctors. This whole "Credentialism" was an import from Europe and infiltrated all over during the late 90s (I'm a PMP, SAFE Certified, Black Belt, LEAN Practitioner!).

                Now whether this was all the plan of the Marxists, or the Marxists just saw the opportunity and took it is beyond me.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

        There is no career path for them given they dont get tenure.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

          Oftentimes they aren't even hired in the first place. The radical left took over the hiring committees after Y2K (there's articles from conservative professors and teachers talking about the shift during this time), and made sure only ideologically aligned students got grad school preference, and hiring considerations for teaching positions both in K-12 and in academia.

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          1. Mike Parsons   3 hours ago

            unfortunately this same trend is going through medical schools right now, being that the governing bodies have been taken over by the left, and so many people higher up in the academic medicine world have also drank the kool aid.

            Which is why we have bullshit like not telling patients they are obese, not regularly weight patients or talking about their weight, and the non stop onslaught of LGBTQ/feminism/CRT style board questions we have on exams and credentialing.

            Its not as bad as standard PHD programs, as those are fully gone, as medicine skews more R than those, but its getting there.

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            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

              And then there was that video, either Vanderbilt or the University of Minnesota, I believe, where the med grads were reciting some dumb mantra about how Native American shamanism was just as valid as western medical science.

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              1. Mike Parsons   41 minutes ago

                same marxist shit every time. Just like the 'whole word' method of reading replacing phonics, "because black and indigenous tribes somewhere have different ways of knowing/learning that are just as valid"

                *reading rates fucking plummet*

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      3. mamabug   3 hours ago

        Teaching is one of the professions where social networking skills trump merit when it comes to career progression. That tends to drive away conservatives both because the latter usually prefer merit-based systems and because the social networks within education are intolerant of anything but the most leftist ideas, limiting job opportunities for any who differ.

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        1. Overt   33 minutes ago

          Almost every business profession has this danger. Everyone knows of the company or department where all the hires are some Boss's old college buddies, or work colleagues from another company. (And to be fair, hiring people you know really well can sometimes be better than trying to determine who is "really good" based on a resume and some interviews)

          The difference is Government. A corporation that can't balance cronyism with the need to Get Shit Done will be out-maneuvered and ruined by competitors. But when a government props them up, the Social Networking will always take over in the end.

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    3. mamabug   3 hours ago

      Anyone who publicly professes that someone getting killed for their political speech is somehow a 'deserved' outcome should not be financed by tax payer dollars. It is antithetical to the very principles the country was founded on.

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      1. sarcasmic   2 hours ago

        Just wait until the next time a Democrat is shot. Celebrating their death will be patriotic.

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        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

          Hundreds of democrats are shot every week, most of them in Chicago. When somebody tries to stop it, you cry Fascist!

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        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 hours ago

          Your whataboutism is ridiculous and tiresome.

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        3. Minadin   2 hours ago

          I think the last shooting I was even tempted to celebrate was that of Bin Laden.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

            I think my feelings about that were summed up as, “yes, got him, but I’d rather we took him back for trial.”

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        4. Chumby   2 hours ago

          Trump tried to reduce the number of Democratic Party members of color in DC from being shot and you were against that. Bigly.

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    4. Minadin   2 hours ago

      There was apparently one in Toronto who just got put on leave for showing the close-up, unedited video of the assassination to his class of 5th graders, over and over on repeat. The class? French language.

      https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-scarborough-teacher-accused-of-showing-charlie-kirk-murder-video-to-kids

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  6. tracerv   4 hours ago

    https://x.com/wigger/status/1967447260935200953

    "This is you."

    Pretty powerful.

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

      Really good, but it would have been better if the guy was a disembodied narrator. I couldn't get over the fact he looked like a chubby Trotsky.

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      1. Rick James   2 hours ago

        Yeah, and I'm sorry, but I can't watch the murder of that young girl on the train again... ever again. I understand people are angry about it... I'm angry about it... as we all should be. But fuck that. I don't need that image in my head any more.

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        1. tracerv   2 hours ago

          I refuse to ever forget her look of confusion and pain. I want to but fuck that. Last week will be with me until I die.

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 hour ago

          Agreed. I've seen it way more times than I wanted. One of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

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  7. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto...

    The shooter lives. Seems like we're going to know eventually. I don't think this one can be memory holed like the Vegas shooter or the various school shooters who were not taken alive. (An epsteining not withstanding.)

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

      The other Vegas shooters are still alive

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  8. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    I'm referring to Jim McGreevey, who is running for mayor of Jersey City.

    He missed his time by about one presidential election.

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  9. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    The New York Times gave leftist commentator/Twitch streamer Hasan Piker an op-ed on our growing problem with political violence and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, whom he was supposed to debate later this month.

    Che talks about the importance of the local farmer.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

      LOL, no shit. These people always call for violence until they think it's going to blow back on them, and then it's "whoa, that's not what we meant!"

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        Just like Sarc. He feels free to make all sorts of comments until he gets the blowback from them.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

          Maybe with you guys. Sarc and I have a different dynamic.

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          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

            He makes a comment. We call him out for it. He then claims we misread his comment and it didn’t mean what we all thought it meant. Jesse or ML posts the bookmarked comment (which consists of a line or two). Sarc then tries to claim we’re just reading it wrong and he didn’t mean it (or some such BS).

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            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 hours ago

              Why i post the full comment for him, which he will then claim he didn't say and out of context despite full context.

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  10. Mickey Rat   4 hours ago

    ""Around 1,000 [LGBT] pilgrims gathered Friday in the 17th century baroque church [Rome's Church of the Gesù] to play music, pray and reflect, while on Saturday they processed to St Peter's Basilica, entering through the basilica's Holy Door, which symbolizes forgiveness and reconciliation,""

    So were they asking for forgiveness and reconciliation for sinful actions associated with being LGBT?

    If not, then they are being false.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 hours ago

      Maybe someone should point out that after Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery, he told her " . . . go and sin no more.".
      Those who continue in sin are not repentant.

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  11. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    The U.S. will go ahead with a ban on short-video app TikTok if China won't drop demands for reducing tariffs...

    "We'll enforce our own laws if you don't free trade with us."

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    1. Longtobefree   3 hours ago

      So TikTok is on what, their 42nd 'last chance'?

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        The answer to life, the universe, and everything.

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  12. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    ...those who are homeless and mentally ill ought to be euthanized by "involuntary lethal injection."

    I can't even "you know who else" this one because it's too on the nose.

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    1. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

      You know who else didn't like crazy?

      (There, I guess that works.)

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      1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

        The Dutch:
        https://nrlc.org/nrlnewstoday/2025/04/dutch-euthanasia-for-mental-illness-surges-60-including-teen-with-autism/

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        1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

          Absolutely enraging and they're looking at expanding to that in Canada.

          It always begins with talk about relieving the terminally ill from agonizing pain and ends up with rail cars full of social outcasts.

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          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

            The 'logic' they use is insane. 'We had to euthanize him or he would have tried suicide again.' What the fuck is wrong with these people? Also, the mentally ill by definition can't consent to euthanasia, so the state is literally killing them because they have a mental illness.

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        2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 hour ago

          This shit is insane.

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      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

        The left? Haha I kid

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    2. Mike Parsons   3 hours ago

      You know who else tried to stick it in crazy?

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      1. MasterThief   3 hours ago

        Every guy?

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      2. mad.casual   3 hours ago

        Eva Braun?

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        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

          Crazy stuck it in her.

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    3. Rick James   2 hours ago

      Your comment is about COVID, isn't it?

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      1. Eeyore   2 hours ago

        Different injections, but they are both for your health.

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  13. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    "What Declining Cardboard Box Sales Tell Us About the US Economy"

    That we're finally recycling!

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      Everybody finally has a home!

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

        Aw.

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        1. MasterThief   3 hours ago

          Cvsd

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    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

      We are using more of those plastic bags to ship stuff?

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  14. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

    What do you call hundreds of educators losing their jobs for celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death?

    A good start. The ideological caputure of education has to end.

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    1. Idaho-Bob   4 hours ago

      Exactly this. These creatures have acted like there's nothing anyone can do about it. Finally, some accountability.

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  15. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    The fact that the pilgrimage of gay Catholics was put in the official jubilee program is of some significance...

    We're all sinners, of course, but I think there is an element of repentance required for the Holy Door's use.

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    1. Spiritus Mundi   4 hours ago

      The Holy Backdoor?

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      1. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

        Ew.

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        1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

          New monkeypox outbreak found at St. peters.

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      2. Chumby   4 hours ago

        Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s tranny gaymer lover.

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    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

      There is a taffy pulling contest at st Peter's. Not a Peter pulling contest at taffys!

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    3. Gaear Grimsrud   58 minutes ago

      It's okay. They all have Akita emotional support animals.

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  16. Fist of Etiquette   4 hours ago

    The Trump administration plans to inject nearly $500 million into historically Black colleges and tribal universities...

    Or, and hear me out, we can stop funneling taxpayer dollars to any university.

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

      All classes are taught in jive

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      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

        Oh, stewardess? I speak Jive.

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        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   1 hour ago

          Chump don't want no help chump don't git no help

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  17. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

    people often post this stuff to imply that moral panics about the technologies of the past were quaint. But the past is full of reminders that we are on a long, slow march away from embodied experience, and that we’ve lost more of it than we can even remember

    Not entirely sure what "embodied experience" means here. Old traditions are replaced with new. I didn't spend yesterday singing choir with the family, but I did sped it enthusiastically watching football with friends. I don't feel as if I'd "lost" anything.

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    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

      If you spent the day watching millionaires playing a game, you may have actually lost something.

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      1. Randy Sax   4 hours ago

        It's not even about the game. It's about hanging out with friends, yelling at the TV together, rooting for a common cause.

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        1. Longtobefree   3 hours ago

          The beer, General; don't forget the beer.

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        2. mad.casual   2 hours ago

          It's not even about the game. It's about hanging out with friends, yelling at the TV together, rooting for a common cause.

          You realize this isn't helping you, right?

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  18. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   4 hours ago

    The Trump administration plans to inject nearly $500 million into historically Black colleges and tribal universities,

    Proof Trump is a racist monster.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 hours ago

      Proof he is not a small government guy, or he would cut all funding to all colleges, regardless of race.
      Then all other schools.

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      1. Ron   1 hour ago

        However if you are going to continue to fund schools why shouldn't certain other schools also get help. the left has often called Trump racist but he helped those communities in his first term and he appears to continue to help "marginalized groups" and i don't think he is doing it to prove he isn't racist since he did such things before he was president

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  19. Mike Parsons   4 hours ago

    "Piker has been an archetypal radical, repeatedly calling for political violence on his streams, over and over again."

    Calls for violence all the time, called for the murder or rick scott (24hr twitch ban on a day he is normally off), doxxed some dude in chat who was talking shit while waving a (fake, lol) glock around threatening him, turns out he doxxed the wrong guy, so double whammy.

    He is a weapons grade retard and ignoramous, and has legions of tankie followers more retarded and equally thirsty for violence. This dude is one of the biggest dangers to America and gets puff pieces in the MSM

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    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 hours ago

      Him and the bluesky fags have called for violence. Parlor was shut down for less. Fuck the subhuman left

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    2. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

      Piker also doesn't believe a word he says. You can see the glint of a used car salesman in his eyes. He has nothing but disdain for the landwhales and blue hairs who follow him.

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      1. Mike Parsons   37 minutes ago

        its a mix of that and he is fully audience captured as well. The few times he has strayed away from the true believers they set him straight.

        Girl harassed the shit out of him in public for drinking a coke, he changed
        He wanted to play hogwarts legacy when it launched, his chat flamed him like crazy and threatened a boycott, he didnt play

        He is probably the most audience captured creator, and that audience wants far left "by any means necessary" tankie communism.

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  20. Mike Parsons   4 hours ago

    "very normal young man" who had been "radicalized" after dropping out of college and moving back to southern Utah"

    importantly, moving in with his trans furry bf. He didn't find community with his conservative family, or at college, or with people in general in utah, and he retreated to his deranged left wing bubble in between blowing his tranny bf. Left wing politics online broke this dudes brain.

    Absolutely another mark against team tranny

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    1. Chumby   2 hours ago

      Just don’t call out the trantifa rainbow cult Discord group on this one.

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  21. Mother's Lament   3 hours ago

    Chemjeff Criminal Psychopath spent yesterday smearing Charlie Kirk with lies and insinuating he had it coming, in order to assuage the guilt of his compatriots.

    I just want to take a moment to say; Fuck you, Jeff, you garbage human.

    Feel free to join in or add a message of your own.

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    1. Chumby   3 hours ago

      It was fun encouraging the big tummy dummy to share his pathology with the commentariat.

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    2. Iranian Investments (Ask me how)   3 hours ago

      Fuck you chemjeff!

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    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   3 hours ago

      Kirk has thousands of hours of video online. Yet jeff and others cant actually find and cite videos of the bigotry.

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    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

      Chemjeff Criminal Psychopath spent yesterday smearing Charlie Kirk with lies and insinuating he had it coming, in order to assuage the guilt of his compatriots.

      The fat fuck really does think that every day is a clean slate, and all the arguments made against him have to be re-litigated to be considered valid again.

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    5. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   3 hours ago

      So I shall.

      Fuck you, Jeffy, and the jackass you rode here on.

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    6. Rick James   2 hours ago

      The Maryland Dad of commenters really seems to have lost his shit over the Kirk assassination. I'm not even really sure why.

      It got to the point where it was like coming into a chatroom about the Holocaust and someone kept saying, "Guys, guys, let's not forget, they were Jews though..."

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      1. Chumby   2 hours ago

        The Kirk assassination has broken jeff in the same way Trump broke sarc.

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      2. Spiritus Mundi   2 hours ago

        He loves the gay/trans community. He can't accept they are the bad guys so he resorts to all kinds of congative dissoance to keep his world view viable. Remember his defense of drag queen/groomer story time.

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        1. Chumby   2 hours ago

          He had a meltdown when it was pointed out that several were registered sex offenders.

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    7. Gaear Grimsrud   50 minutes ago

      Jeff is a gray box to me. But working from memory I can confidently say Fuck You, Jeff, You Garbage Human.

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  22. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

    Just a reminder that King Choco and his buddies kicked this all off:

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Barack Obama in July 2008
    “I want you to argue with them and get in their face!” Barack Obama, September 2008
    “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Barack Obama on ACORN mobs, March 2010
    “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.” Barack Obama, June 2010
    “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends.” Barack Obama, October 2010
    “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Jim Messina, 2009

    The left wants you to forget that they've spent the last decade and a half gleefully indulging in the very thing they said was okay when they did it, even ruining the prospects of teenagers for something as innocuous as doing the "made you look" hand signal, because they fell for a dumb 4chan prank.

    They'll try to get you to back down by claiming "it's not going to make you any more content or righteous" and "you just want to own the libs" if you give them their own medicine. They have to resort to this bullshit shaming language because they have absolutely no redeeming qualities as a political movement anymore, just nonstop revolutions until some dumb vision of a communist utopia supposedly emerges from the ashes of what they've destroyed. And they always do it under the pretense that "the post-fascist period is one of clear and present danger" to justify their destruction.

    Only when the left admits, "Yes, this was wrong and we never should have done it," then we can talk about de-escalation. Until then, hurt them the same way they hurt their political enemies. Force is all these assholes understand.

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    1. Longtobefree   3 hours ago

      Sums up as "you cannot negotiate with your executioner".

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    2. Michael Ejercito   3 hours ago

      The left wants you to forget that they've spent the last decade and a half gleefully indulging in the very thing they said was okay when they did it, even ruining the prospects of teenagers for something as innocuous as doing the "made you look" hand signal, because they fell for a dumb 4chan prank.
      and these same people cheered the murder of Charlie Kirk.

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  23. Mike Parsons   3 hours ago

    "These all seem very online, and very gamery, and not even explicitly political, per se, other than calling his target a fascist."

    A big realignment that has happened is who can be found in which circles. For sure, a bunch or right wing guys can be found in the gaming community, but in the last decade especially since the games world and games journos have been infiltrated by so many women, and commie simping men, its no longer a safe assumption that an online gamer is "another right wing chud".

    This goes for pretty much every genre previously reserved for teenage to early 20s dudes.

    D&D? Its a full on LGBTQ tranny fest now.
    Magic? Just as bad. Check out any of the magic forums (or D&D) online, its basically bluesky

    Video games very unfortunately let WAYYYY too many women in specifically post me2, and women and left wing minorities in the post-gamergate DEIification of society we have been undergoing. Fortunately the worst offenders (sweet baby inc) have been pushed back on that they are going bankrupt, but there are still far too many that have had full composition changes, leaning into a more feminist message. Its ruined the quality of so many games, and is the reason you have so many of these tranny weirdos in this fantasy community.

    Of note, the new dragon age, which was supposed to be a slam dunk money printer, was a terrible flop because they hired a trans director who put tranny/nonbinary shit all into the storyline. Complete with the ability to make ugly as fuck characters with vittiligo and mastectomy scars.

    Dont ever assume the gaming world (or any previous fantasy world reserved for based dudes) is "right wing", ever. Women and left wing activist marched through these properties when all the corpos went whole hog into pride/diversity, and they will never be the same again.

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    1. Rick James   3 hours ago

      Yeah, but gaming was the one... the ONE property that fought back, which is why it got branded as right wing. Hell hath no fury like a post-modern woke Marxist scorned. The whole point about Gamergate was the woke element rolling all over the field, holding its ankle like so much European football field drama because they got pushback on their horseshit.

      It's just like the McCarthy era: It's painted as literally the darkest time in modern American history. Again, because someone pushed back. Now the history you hear about it is one completely invented by the Marxists. Gamergate is McCarthyism for the modern woke.

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      1. Longtobefree   2 hours ago

        Just for the record:
        Tail gunner Joe DID find communists embedded in the government.

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        1. Rick James   2 hours ago

          And he never had a single Hollywood hearing, and he was not concerned with people sympathetic to communism, he wanted to root out people in the House and government who were loyal to the Soviet Union.

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          1. Rick James   2 hours ago

            Link at proper time.

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      2. Mike Parsons   51 minutes ago

        "The whole point about Gamergate was the woke element rolling all over the field, holding its ankle like so much European football field drama because they got pushback on their horseshit."

        Absolutely true. The games journos circled the wagons and turned it into essentially a cry-bullying of "these right wing gamer chuds just hate women" as a deflection of the valid criticisms they had. I remember that shit so well because it was the first time I really saw the microcosm of what the MSM does in a smaller, focused industry. All the games journos followed the same playbook that they do, as they are from the same cloth.

        I was pretty left leaning going into gamergate, and I remember thinking..."they seem to be talking shit on and hating gamers like me...for noticing they are doing something wrong" despite the fact that I probably lined up more with their politics at the time than I do now.

        Nice thing is the market is at least still having a say in games. Most woke shit gets a gamer boycott. The only woke stuff people will play has to have excellent gameplay. Ubisoft went broke, sweet baby went broke, concord lost half a billion dollars and shut down in 2 weeks, and eastern studios that just make good games get richer by the day. Hard to push marxism in a system that still has some input with respect to the free marketplace of ideas. Much easier to push in a fully captured institution (academia, hollywood, govt) from the top down

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        1. BYODB   47 minutes ago

          It helps that all of the most progressive games have epically failed in the market. It's the same thing plaguing Disney's new Marvel movies, or their movies in general, and why those have been spectacular failures.

          They took it as a given that men would continue to consume their product even while they bashed them in particular. Turns out, men were by far their largest demographic and without them their movies aren't watched by anyone.

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          1. Mike Parsons   35 minutes ago

            Disney Star Wars and Disney Marvel are perfect examples, you are correct. They thought the dudes would just show up, and they could pander to women and left wingers.

            Turns out, that makes for shitty TV guys dont like so they turned it off, and the demo they were trying to add never cared in the first place.

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            1. BYODB   5 minutes ago

              It says something about how utterly garbage their new Star Wars films have been when they manage to make George Lucas's prequel trilogy look competent by comparison.

              It will never stop being hilarious to me that they paid 4 billion dollars for the franchise and then promptly destroyed the entire thing.

              Sure, they made some money off of it but they only did so by literally killing the golden goose. Kennedy should have been fired long, long ago but Disney apparently just can't figure that out.

              While we're on morons who are busy destroying popular franchises, let us not forget that monumental retard Alex Kurtzman as well.

              They can apparently lose money every time and still not be fired. I wish I had that kind of job security.

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    2. I, Woodchipper   2 hours ago

      D&D? Its a full on LGBTQ tranny fest now.

      Absolutely correct. It's nauseating.

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      1. Mike Parsons   48 minutes ago

        Out of curiosity the wife and I took a look at the local board games pub where they have magic, D&D sessions, warhammer etc. Its....fucking depressingly like they invited all the rejects from libsoftiktok videos into one place to play games. Septum piercings, colored hair, everyone is fat as fuck, and half the people in there were trying to pass (poorly) trannies

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        1. BYODB   37 minutes ago

          They certainly don't look like those kids from Stranger Things anymore, that's for sure.

          Just to put this out there, because I really like D&D and movies in particular, if you are into those things and somehow have not yet come across it I highly recommend Dorkness Rising. It's an indie film made by people who really loved D&D, and for a small project it was really well done.

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    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

      Video games very unfortunately let WAYYYY too many women in specifically post me2

      Dude, that started long before metoo. Nerd culture got infiltrated after Big Bang Theory came out and accelerated when Feminist Frequency started getting government sponsorship.

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      1. Groovus Maximus   14 minutes ago

        It started with, "The Great Boobplate & Chainmail Bikini Flame Wars,"....

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    4. MT-Man   2 hours ago

      Yeah the whole gaming community has lost a big chunk of folks. My friends and I were just talking about how the gaming stores used to be a spot to game, now it's a spot for political representation and almost all of us don't go there now and don't want to because of the infiltration, it's uncomfortable and not fun. You are correct, I think in the board/card game world magic got hijacked away from just gaming, then DND and others.

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      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

        Nerds should have been a lot more aggressive about gatekeeping.

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        1. Mike Parsons   47 minutes ago

          This. Its a lesson. Definitely should gate keep progressive loons, but honestly, just stopping women from taking over a hobby probably solves 90% of the issue from go

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    5. BYODB   56 minutes ago

      As a gamer myself, I can tell you that the moderators for just about every platform are overwhelmingly Progressive. You can see this in what gets banned and taken down and what isn't.

      There are still lots of conservative gamers, but they are well aware that if they say anything they will be banned from the platforms they otherwise enjoy.

      Even the Steam forums, which are a cesspool, allow all sorts of rhetoric against conservatives but if you say one thing that could be interpreted as even slightly negative towards trans or gay people you will be instantly silenced. I see it just about every day.

      Just to be clear, that is legal and doesn't implicate the 1st amendment it's just scummy and drives people to either self censor or leave the platform.

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  24. Rick James   3 hours ago

    people often post this stuff to imply that moral panics about the technologies of the past were quaint. But the past is full of reminders that we are on a long, slow march away from embodied experience, and that we’ve lost more of it than we can even remember

    I also like how the 'reminders' that they like to show us have a family sitting together. Like... who does that any more?

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  25. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 hours ago

    "I've created a spreadsheet"

    LOL, lady, you're massively behind the curve now. That one website logging everyone who's displayed a hilarous lack of OPSEC while celebrating his death has something like 20,000 verified names at this point.

    What's ultimately driving a lot of this right now is the realization by people on the right that it isn't just politicians or loud-mouthed pundits with no filter going off on this. It's the people teaching their kids, their college professors (okay, that was a given), various bureaucrat chair moisteners they deal with every day, small business owners, military members including field grade officers, and medical personnel who might be treating or operating on them one day. The natural conclusion is that if these people are okay with Kirk being assassinated for his political positions (which they are, as they spend paragraphs explaining why while disingenuously claiming they don't out of the other side of their mouth), they're okay with them being killed for the same reason.

    And as I mentioned, these idiots have NO OPSEC whatsoever. You can tell they've had a decade-plus of being indulged by everyone including corporations and the government, because they wouldn't be so blatant about broadcasting it otherwise. At least Trantifa is smart enough to do their death threats and tard-raging behind VPNs and anonymous accounts.

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    1. Rick James   50 minutes ago

      At least Trantifa is smart enough to do their death threats and tard-raging behind VPNs and anonymous accounts.

      And prone on rooftops.

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  26. sarcasmic   2 hours ago

    Have Republicans proposed a "Charlie Kirk" law yet? After all, that's what leftists do whenever one of their own is shot, and Trump's GOP is doing its damnedest to be just like the leftists they hate.

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    1. Mother's Lament   2 hours ago

      You're sure mad that people are punching back this time, aren't you Sarckles.

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      1. Chumby   2 hours ago

        Not as mad as the marxist retard though.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 hour ago

        The only problem with kicks shooting to these jokers is the optics.

        The desperation from the media and others pushing he came from a conservative family is palpable.

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    2. Super Scary   19 minutes ago

      Mike Lee tweeted something about restoring the "Smith-Mundt Act" and renaming it the "Charlie Kirk Act." Not sure if it'll actually happen or not.

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  27. Rick James   2 hours ago

    Lefty boomers who left positions of power due to sex scandals involving members of their staff apparently feel like they need another shot at political office.

    Also known as Male Feminists.

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    1. Groovus Maximus   36 minutes ago

      Lefty boomers...apparently feel like they need another shot in political orifice.

      There, Paul. FTFY. 🙂

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  28. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

    Oh, Liz!

    While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto and very little online posting to link him to anything like that

    Let's see ....

    * "murderous": Assuming they did actually get the right murderer, yes, he is murderous.

    * "trans": He's a male living (and presumably sleeping with) a gay male cross-dresser who calls himself trans. That's about as close as you can get to trans without actually calling oneself trans.

    * "advocate": He certainly advocated for murder. Living and sleeping with a gay male cross-dresser who calls himself trans certainly doesn't make him an opponent of the trans lifestyle.

    Yup, I'd say Robinson fits just about perfectly into that "murderous trans advocate" category, regardless of any manifesto. If you actually want a manifesto, perhaps those bullet casings will just have to do. Sometimes actions speak louder than words, hmmmm?

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

      Yeah, it's already been reported that his family members were talking about how he'd gotten a lot more strident lately, was a Democrat in a mostly Republican family, and had been spazzing out about Kirk specifically.

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      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

        But there's no manifesto by the suspect himself, so those don't count.

        Sometimes a murderous trans advocate is just an alleged murderer. But if his being a trans advocate turns out to be lies, I will be one surprised commenter.

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      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   1 hour ago

        Reports today of FBI looking into social media of Trans accounts that predicted the shooting a week prior. One of them followed the assassins Trans boyfriend.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

          I'm sure pretty much every black site has been going through Discord and Bluesky the last 3-4 days.

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        2. Chumby   1 hour ago

          Why is that important? Nothing to see here. And Kirk debated college students anyways.

          - marxist tard

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        3. BYODB   1 hour ago

          I'm still at least a little skeptical that the boyfriend knew nothing about it, but it's more likely that the trans boyfriends politics informed the shooting even while they had absolutely nothing to do with the shooting itself.

          Under the standard used for Michelle Carter that might be good enough for jail time, but then I never agreed with that verdict myself.

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          1. Mike Parsons   60 minutes ago

            I wouldnt be surprised if shooter made comments that he wanted to do it or was even planning to, but bf just took it as a comment made out of anger/solidarity with him. Im sure he said tons of deranged shit on the daily

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        4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   51 minutes ago

          There are also apparently some books out about the shooting that got published on September 9, 10, and 11. How the hell do you publish a book about an event the day before it happens? Or even the day of or day after? These guys knew something was happening and may have been in on it.

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   10 minutes ago

      Yeah all this obsession with motive is one of the dumbest talking points ever. Does every murderer have to publish a manifesto before we can determine a motive? With the known record common sense reveals the motive. It's not like this guy came home and found Charlie Kirk in bed with his tranny boyfriend. This was not a crime of passion. He searched Kirk's schedule and drove 250 miles to get to him, rifle in hand. This was a political assassination of a private actor known only for his political philosophy. There is no mystery.

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  29. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

    After listing two people who said bad things, Liz follows up with ....

    I'm not convinced we need to make lists of people who say bad things:

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    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   1 hour ago

      A bit ironic. I used to be against making such lists, but after this assassination, I’m done with these assholes. They’ve gone way too far and way beyond the pale. I’m all for making the lists and getting these guys some kind of consequences for their behavior.

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      1. Stupid Government Tricks   57 minutes ago

        Amen!

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    2. Gaear Grimsrud   8 minutes ago

      There's a difference between saying bad things and openly inciting violence.

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  30. I, Woodchipper   2 hours ago

    We don't know very much about why he chose Kirk as his target...

    He was a deranged violent tranny. It's that simple.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 hours ago

      No, he was just a bog-standard furfag. There's quite a bit of overlap in that subculture, but there's no indication as of yet that he was a tranny as well, just his "roommate."

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      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 hours ago

        His refusal to out himself as either gay or trannie was a noble self-sacrifice.

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        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

          The hilarious part is how the left is going through Olympic-tier mental gymnastics to claim that he's really a MAGA groyper.

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          1. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

            they seem to finally be moving on to the "it doesnt matter who the shooter was or what his motivations were, we need to take everyone's guns" phase today. The gaslighting didnt quite take

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          2. BYODB   60 minutes ago

            Yeah, I've taken those people to task everywhere I've found them.

            Ask them how many trans people willingly shack up with Christian conservatives, and how many Christian conservatives willingly choose to live with trans people. As a bonus, you can ask them how many of those types of people have sex with each other too.

            That shuts them up almost instantly since it forces them to confront their cognitive dissonance. They realize that no one on their side would actually do that, and neither would the guy on the other side.

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            1. Mike Parsons   43 minutes ago

              "Ask them how many trans people willingly shack up with Christian conservatives, and how many Christian conservatives willingly choose to live with trans people. As a bonus, you can ask them how many of those types of people have sex with each other too."

              Seen a lot of these. Their no shit response is

              "he is a closeted gay/tranny lover (like all conservatives, lul), groyper who hates Charlie Kirk because he wasn't extreme *enough*, even though that would mean being more extreme against transgender people and gays...or something...I mean the guy drives a dodge charger why are we even having this debate?!?!"

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              1. damikesc   30 minutes ago

                You could also ask if the dude was a groyper...why does Fuentes not support it?

                Like at all.

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              2. BYODB   27 minutes ago

                It's hard to argue someone is 'in the closet' when they are actively fucking another dude. I have to wonder what they think 'in the closet' actually means, natch.

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  31. BYODB   1 hour ago


    While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto and very little online posting to link him to anything like that (let alone this broader pattern that the Post is trying to claim); you need more before we can really determine motive.

    I mean, he lived in Utah (a very conservative Mormon state) with a guy that thinks he's a girl. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we can figure at least a few conclusions from that.

    Namely that he was terminally online and hated himself, at the very least. Given that it's been confirmed that he was 'in a relationship' with the trans guy, it's notable that he engraved taunts towards gay people on his bullets. That screams self loathing, even if he wasn't aware of it himself, since he was having sex with another man.

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    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 hour ago

      There's a lot of people playing dumb right now and pretending that dots can't be connected, which is something they should have learned how to do in kindergarten.

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      1. Groovus Maximus   34 minutes ago

        They're too busy eating paste & crayons... still.

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        1. BYODB   26 minutes ago

          Wait, so now they are U.S. Marines?

          /joke

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    2. Mike Parsons   1 hour ago

      "That screams self loathing, even if he wasn't aware of it himself, since he was having sex with another man."

      Iran rules apply. If you suck a dick but its a lady's dick, no homosexuality has happened.

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      1. Mother's Lament   56 minutes ago

        It's like the guys who try and say it's not gay to be the pitcher, just the catcher, when you're still getting your dick hard over another man's ass.

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        1. Idaho-Bob   6 minutes ago

          I'm reminded of an old Sam Kinison bit. 🙂

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      2. Chumby   38 minutes ago

        If he was tehran into the other man’s ass, that makes him gay.

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    3. Rick James   45 minutes ago

      I mean, he lived in Utah (a very conservative Mormon state) with a guy that thinks he's a girl.

      Promethean transformations all around!

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