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Charlie Kirk

Gamer Radicalism

Plus: The sex scandal mayors, Hasan Piker's hypocrisy, cable host calls for killing the homeless, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.15.2025 9:32 AM

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What we know and what we don't: A lot of bad or unconfirmed information has been swirling about the ideology and personal life of 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, the person detained as a suspect in the assassination of conservative pundit Charlie Kirk. Let's try to see how much we actually know.

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox has said in a press conference that Robinson subscribed to "leftist ideology" and that he was living with, and in a relationship with, a transgender person. Cox described Robinson as a "very normal young man" who had been "radicalized" after dropping out of college and moving back to southern Utah, where he is from. Robinson's alleged romantic partner has apparently cooperated with the authorities and provided private messages to them, and does not appear to have had any knowledge of the crime or any involvement.

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Some, like The New York Post, have really run with these breadcrumbs:

Charlie Kirk assassination latest shooting committed by trans people and advocates https://t.co/4eonu2CcjS pic.twitter.com/OrESw1Fn0J

— New York Post (@nypost) September 13, 2025

While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto and very little online posting to link him to anything like that (let alone this broader pattern that the Post is trying to claim); you need more before we can really determine motive.

Transcriptions found on bullet casings read "hey fascist! CATCH!" along with an up arrow symbol, right arrow symbol, and three down arrow symbols, and "O Bella ciao, Bella ciao"—a reference to an anti-fascist Italian leftist folk song that had a resurgence after being used in the video game Far Cry 6. The arrows at least appear to refer to a video game, Helldivers 2, and the controller moves you use to detonate a bomb. Other inscriptions: "Notices bulges OwO what's this?" and "If you read This, you are GAY Lmao." These all seem very online, and very gamery, and not even explicitly political, per se, other than calling his target a fascist.

Robinson was raised in a Republican, Mormon family, and his father turned him in after Robinson confessed to him (and after the father consulted with a trusted friend who is also a pastor). We don't know very much about why he chose Kirk as his target, but there's something very darkly sad and ironic about the fact that Kirk had positioned himself as a sort of therapist to the young and adrift, speaking charitably and thoughtfully to them during his "prove me wrong" segments.


Scenes from New York: Lefty boomers who left positions of power due to sex scandals involving members of their staff apparently feel like they need another shot at political office. No, I'm not referring to Andrew Cuomo, though this does all apply to him; I'm referring to Jim McGreevey, who is running for mayor of Jersey City.


QUICK HITS

  • The New York Times gave leftist commentator/Twitch streamer Hasan Piker an op-ed on our growing problem with political violence and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, whom he was supposed to debate later this month. It's predictably bad. An excerpt: "Any answer about civic decline in America also has to include a discussion about the failure of our political and economic establishment to reconcile with social challenges that have touched every place and aspect of American life. Too many examples of the deadly gun violence we see today are, it seems to me, indicative of this decline. The social challenges include rising rents and homelessness, the destruction caused by climate change, titanic levels of inequality, and too many others to name here. Our capitalist way of life—always accumulating, never evening out—leaves more and more people to deal with these problems on their own." But here's, maybe, the worst part: Piker has been an archetypal radical, repeatedly calling for political violence on his streams, over and over again. Case in point:

This is who just wrote a piece in the NYT on political violence pic.twitter.com/QaktdeNH0g

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) September 14, 2025

  • "The U.S. will go ahead with a ban on short-video app TikTok if China won't drop demands for reducing tariffs and technological restrictions as part of a divestiture deal, a senior U.S. official with knowledge of negotiations said on Monday," per Reuters. The deadline for a TikTok deal—a shutdown, unless it is sold to U.S. owners—is Wednesday.
  • Fox News commentator Brian Kilmeade made on-air comments this past week, in relation to the murder of Iryna Zarutska in Charlotte, North Carolina, by a deranged mentally ill man on public transit, that those who are homeless and mentally ill ought to be euthanized by "involuntary lethal injection." Kilmeade then apologized for his remarks, saying he doesn't actually believe in that.
  • I'm not convinced we need to make lists of people who say bad things:

I've only just begun creating a spreadsheet of people who've said vile things about Charlie Kirk's assassination. So far, teachers and professors are by far the most represented. pic.twitter.com/B2h9H0EmvQ

— lisakip (@lisakippy) September 13, 2025

  • From Bloomberg: "What Declining Cardboard Box Sales Tell Us About the US Economy"
  • "Around 1,000 [LGBT] pilgrims gathered Friday in the 17th century baroque church [Rome's Church of the Gesù] to play music, pray and reflect, while on Saturday they processed to St Peter's Basilica, entering through the basilica's Holy Door, which symbolizes forgiveness and reconciliation," reports CNN. "The door is only opened in the Catholic Church's jubilee years, falling every 25 years, including 2025." The fact that the pilgrimage of gay Catholics was put in the official jubilee program is of some significance, providing an indication that Pope Leo might be following in his predecessor's footsteps—not changing official church doctrine, per se, but rather the posture or messaging toward gay people.
  • "The Trump administration plans to inject nearly $500 million into historically Black colleges and tribal universities, a windfall funded largely by cuts to programs elsewhere for minority students," reports The New York Times. "The administration will also redirect money to other political priorities for President Trump, including an extra $137 million for American history and civics education and $60 million more for charter schools." This amounts to a 13 percent increase in funding for charter schools.
  • Agree:

people often post this stuff to imply that moral panics about the technologies of the past were quaint. But the past is full of reminders that we are on a long, slow march away from embodied experience, and that we've lost more of it than we can even remember https://t.co/anUgdPJXjn

— Lauren Wilford (@lauren_wilford) September 14, 2025

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  1. Chumby   2 months ago

    Clueless and Jobless

    Some folks that publicly celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk are finding out their employers don’t want to keep them on staff:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7JhRyrpQZWU

    Anyone upset about this is free to hire these lovely people at their business.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      PrIvAtE cOmPaNiEs!

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Some were/are employed at public education institutions. In one case, the school hired a third party to evaluate what the employee did and whether it violated the code of conduct.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          Did the school even ask congress if they could fire them?

          1. Think It Through   2 months ago

            Don't you mean the 9th Circuit?

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Think it is congress first. Then an inferior court judge. Then a liberal appeals court.

              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                Doesn’t Demon Jeffy get a say?

                1. Chumby   2 months ago

                  Tufts University should decide!

                2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                  That's only after scotus undermines the prior 3.

          2. Rick James   2 months ago

            You mean did they ask a random district Judge?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      1) "LOL, no, people aren't getting fired for saying that Charlie Kirk deserved to be killed and that his family deserves to be, too."
      2) "Okay, there's a few instances of this happening, but it's a small number and not worth blowing out of proportion."
      3) "Yes, people are getting fired for saying Charlie Kirk and his family deserve to be assassinated, and that's a good thing."
      4) "This is old news, let's move on and focus on more important things going on right now."

      Pick whichever is more convenient to use at the time.

    3. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      They are from the same side that demanded that Emmanule Cafferty be fired for making the OK sign.

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        Cancel culture is not just people being fired for their words. There has always been near universal agreement that some words should result in firing. Anyone who advocated a return to Jim Crow would be immediately fired.

        A key element of cancel culture was always the unreasonable and bad faith interpretations of behavior and comments to mean something they clearly did not in the course of advocating or justifying firing someone. The claim that the OK sign is a white power gesture was made up on 4chan to mock idiot left wingers and media, proving they will believe or claim to believe anything they think will advance their political interests. This was known almost immediately yet the activist left still makes this claim. Cancel culture was the watering down of their action being reserved for truly reprehensible comments to merely anything the left disagrees with.

        This is why it is always important to make judgements based on the evidence and not the characterizations left wingers make. You can always identify the propagandists because they advance the characterization (Kirk is a fascist) and not the evidence of his supposed fascism (Kirk believes Americans have a constitutional right to own guns).

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          “……a return to Jim Crow…..”

          Wait, what? A return to? Progs think we never left. Lol.

          Seriously tho, I was at a gathering in a proggy house recently, and a prominently displayed coffee table book was “The New Jim Crow”. Virtue, signaled. Yawn.

          Progs: always living in the past.

          1. Marshal   2 months ago

            Along those lines...

            Back in the 90s I took a criminal justice class. In it our self-appointed left wing discussion monitor launched into a tirade about a truly horrible sounding race driven event of local people and law enforcement mistreating and corrupting the law against blacks. As the story got more and more unrealistic someone finally interrupted her and asked where this happened. She didn't want to admit it but eventually he drug it out of her she was referencing the Scottsboro boys from 1930s Alabama to argue law enforcement was racist in 1990s America.

            Her exact response: "nothing has changed".

            The entire reason for the grievance studies departments is to foster nonsense like this which is how we ended up with The 1619 Project.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              In it our self-appointed left wing discussion monitor

              Not telling these idiots to stop acting like a retard is a big part of why political correctness metastasized into wokeism 10-20 years later.

            2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

              No mention of the Good Ol' Boys' Roundup, which was exposed in the 1990's?

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      I'm kind of at the point where I think 'well if it's war, then i guess it's war' and I dont care about canceling my enemies even though in theory, in abstract, i think canceling is lame.

    5. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      I watched about 30 seconds of the first crybully, and that was my laugh for the day.

      "Words are violence!"

      "Meet violence with violence!"

      "If someone is smacking you in the face ..."

      I bet she doesn't approve of self-defense for other people, like mugging or burglary victims.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        The "it's okay when we do it crowd" always starts claiming oppression when they think you're stopping them from having their fun.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    A lot of bad or unconfirmed information has been swirling about the ideology and personal life of 22-year-old Tyler Robinson...

    Let's call him MAGA and leave it at that.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      There was a leftist website that photoshopped a picture of him to show wearing a Trump tshirt. S2 Underground covered that.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        And it got spread far and wide on blue sky and reddit.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Those sharing it get spread far and wide.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Akita nods in shame.

      2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        I can't tell you how many times I saw on X that Robinson "dressed up as Trump for Halloween," without the photo attached. The photo shows him dressed as himself riding Trump as his steed. That's not a costume a Trump fan would wear, but one a leftist would wear to denigrate Trump.

        1. Marshal   2 months ago

          Is that how you took it? The Trump character was coming out of his pelvis so I took it as saying Trump was a giant dick. Admittedly it's hard to interpret these people since their worldview is so radically different from normals.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            I've seen costumes where it's designed to look like the person is fucking the celebrity. Granted, I didn't study the photo of Robinson's costume, but it appeared to be a more tame version of that kind of costume where he's just riding Trump as though Trump were a horse.

          2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            But I'm sure we can agree that it wasn't a costume IN HONOR OF Trump, but one someone who doesn't like Trump would wear to mock Trump.

  3. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    I'm not convinced we need to make lists of people who say bad things:

    You mean like a mute list?

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      She’s covering for Matt Welch.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        The Piker story was a red herring to distract from Welch's red wedding.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      I for one, do not want a medical "professional" or a school teacher, or a fucking barista that celebrates SPEECH MURDER anywhere near me or mine.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        There seem to be more than a few that don’t want their coerced taxpayer money being used to fund a public school employee who openly celebrates an assassination. The healthcare professionals having done that seem to have gone against their vocation where their standard of care could be compromised depending on what shirt a patient is wearing.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Similar to a cook burning a steak because someone ordered it the wrong way.

        2. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

          Some early 20th Century wisdom here (link to the full article below):

          "...That was an impression of Lord Moulton’s view of the Domain of Manners. As a practical matter, people who demonstrate that they will not behave decently cannot be expected to behave honorably, and if they cannot be expected to behave honorably, they cannot be trusted with matters of public importance. The doctors, nurses, lawmakers, teachers, and so on, who abandoned any sense of probity in order to seek affirmation from a largely illusory audience of progressives, have forfeited a measure of trust. They do not get the benefit of the doubt that they will refrain from harming those with whom they disagree. If trust is an element of one’s job, loss of trust is grounds for loss of that job.

          No one should go to jail or have to pay a fine for poor taste or disgusting behavior in response to someone’s murder. However, the experience of appropriate consequences imposed by businesses whose success depends on a favorable public image, or organizations whose credibility depends on ideological neutrality, is part of the practice of self-governance. Societies are entitled to discourage the glorification of harmful behaviors, such as cold-blooded murder, by any means that are legally allowed to them.

          Manners have purposes in a society, but even more fundamentally, basic standards of decency are a hallmark of a people who are worthy of living in a free society."

          https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2025/09/after_charlie_kirk_decency_and_the_response_to_murder.html

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            It’s a way to enforce manners and decorum. We haven’t really been doing such as of recent, which is bad as it’s let a bunch of people act uncouthly towards others and contributed to our rude society. I favor reinstilling manners and decorum into society and shunning those who are unwilling until they modify their behavior.

            1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

              This is a direct result of people behind keyboards and screens and not within striking distance from the person they verbally assaulted.

    3. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      At least this person posted the list.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        We’re still waiting on Sarc’s list.

        1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

          We know the number 1. Unsure ranking after that.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            He HATES you and ITL. ML and RMac too.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Sarc is not a fan of others calling out his bullshit.

            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              We were the ones who broke him.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We don't know very much about why he chose Kirk as his target...

    Living with a trans guy. Kirk spoke out against trans ideology. I know things are not always this easy, but this one really seems this easy.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Some need a detailed tranifesto for dummies and even then they will ignore that to push their agenda. Still waiting on the Reason tariffs angle.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        https://babylonbee.com/news/media-says-motives-unclear-of-killer-who-wrote-manifesto-entitled-here-are-my-motives

        1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

          Democrats Wondering If Maybe They Should Stop Saying The Things Assassins Are Having Engraved On Bullets

          https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-wondering-if-maybe-they-should-stop-saying-the-things-assassins-are-having-engraved-on-bullets

          Weird that their entire side is pushing that he was far right while all also absolutely agreeing with the shooter...

          1. damikesc   2 months ago

            One of my arguments. If the shooter was a rightie --- why does nobody on the Right support it while the Left has more than a few supporting it.

            1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

              also one of my points to the reddit crowd, before it was confirmed

              Shooter: fascist got what he deserved
              The left: fascist got what he deserved
              The right: this is a tragedy

              Left wing media: Cleary a right winger

      2. Ron   2 months ago

        Considering how long they tried to hide a previous trans shooters manifesto, it wouldn't surprise me if there is one but they just won't let us know this time. conspiracy yes.

        speaking of Conspiracies i'm surprised by how many conspiracies there are already of alternate shooters and/or that it was faked and Kirk is alive and of course that the Jews did it of course also it was MAGA civil war etc.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Liz's hemming and hawing on his motive will age about as well as her the FBI hasn't caught the killer lead on Friday.

    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck it just might be a Haitian immigrant's dinner soon.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        Aw.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Just as broken as sarc.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          You're blind with hate.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Says the guy on the assassins team, spending more posts attacking those critiquing those celebrating his death lol.

            Yeah. It is me. Not the party raising assassins.

            Youre broken Mike.

            But your entire shtick here is to distract from the actions of your party.

            Look at JDs thread. You and sarc acting like victims in a thread about an actual victim of your ideology and rhetoric. Just shameless.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Here's a link for others to judge if I'm on the assassin's team or playing the victim.

              https://reason.com/2025/09/15/no-it-wasnt-ironic-that-second-amendment-advocate-charlie-kirk-was-shot/?comments=true#comment-11205797

              1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                Look at your reply to sarc dumdum. Acting like a victim lol.

                Weird you didnt link to that one. Hmm.

                Didnt even occur to you to not jump on sarcs brokenness did it.

                God damn Mike.

                This is why I dont buy your bullshit feigning posts about Kirk. Especially as you've jumped on the j6 arrests even for non violence. Defended the babbit shooting. Defended going after trump and his lawyers. Pushed the fake electors. This is literally why I don't belive you actually mean what is in your post. That youre solely concerned about the optics of this shooting for your team. As soon as you can you jump right back to being the victim.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  Didnt even occur to you to not jump on sarcs brokenness did it.

                  No. Because his point was valid as you're proving right now.

                  Especially as you've jumped on the j6 arrests even for non violence.

                  Nope
                  Defended the babbit shooting.

                  When? What did Insay?
                  Defended going after trump and his lawyersI say?

                  Nope
                  Pushed the fake electors.

                  When. What did I say?

                  This is literally why I don't belive you actually mean what is in your post. That youre solely concerned about the optics of this shooting for your team.

                  Projection. I have no team.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                    Jesse's shtick is to lie about people in an effort to goad them into defending themselves. It's all it does. It thinks it's a master baiter, but it's just a monkey that poops into its hands and then flings it at people before licking its fingers. Before I muted the fuckwit I would break its comments down phrase by phrase, pointing out the lies. Every single sentence was a lie. And it'd just reply with the same shit. So now I mute it along with the rest of its poo-flinging gang of chimps. The comments are much easier to read.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                      The only poo flingers here would be you and your butt buddy Jeffy, Sarc. If you didn’t lie so often, no one would call you out on it constantly.

                  2. Marshal   2 months ago

                    When? What did Insay?

                    Here he is demanding you provide the date and words, but when people actually cited his prior comments he claimed it was "creepy" as if citing someone's own words is illegitimate.

                    The same action is both legitimate and illegitimate depending on whether it works in his favor or against it.

                    1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                      Marshall, I have no beef with you, and rather enjoy your takedowns through reason and logic of Sarc's BS.

                      But I don't recall ever seeing QB calling it "creepy" when someone cites him. Sarc is a different story, as he routinely does what your ascribing to QB. In fact, Jesse's entire post about QB seems as though it describes sarc quite well, but not QB.

                      I'm not here every single day, so perhaps I'm wrong and just missed QB doing all of those things Jesse accused him of. But I would need to see the cite or evidence before concluding I was wrong here.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      I said it was creepy that someone took the time to go back years searching for my posts, not that any of my comments were cited.

                    3. Marshal   2 months ago

                      I said it was creepy that someone took the time to go back years searching for my posts,

                      And yet that's exactly what you're demanding now.

                    4. Marshal   2 months ago

                      I would need to see the cite or evidence before concluding I was wrong here.

                      Is his admission below good enough?

                      Quicktown Brix 7 minutes ago
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                      I said it was creepy that someone took the time to go back years searching for my posts, not that any of my comments were cited.

                    5. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                      I stand corrected on QB not saying it was creepy for someone to have saved cites. I got that one wrong.

                      edit: QB, I don't think people are going way back through old comments sections to find quotes, but instead, in the present, when they see you say something they object to, they're bookmarking it to cite later if you claim you never said it. I don't find that creepy myself.

                    6. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      And yet that's exactly what you're demanding now.

                      Saying "Where and when did I say that" in response to someone claiming I said something does not equal "Go back years and look at all articles in case I said or didn't say something."

                      Anyway, he'd come up with nothing just like you did.

                    7. Marshal   2 months ago

                      Saying "Where and when did I say that" in response to someone claiming I said something does not equal "Go back years and look at all articles in case I said or didn't say something."

                      [A] There are no limits on your demand so any you're now claiming exist are retrofitting, and

                      [B] When the event occurred years ago the evidence is obviously going to be from years ago.

                      Anyway, he'd come up with nothing just like you did.

                      This is pretty funny considering that "nothing" is exactly what I said we'd find.

                    8. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Hey Jefferson,

                      The argument Marshall and I are referencing was over me saying I was critical of the inflation production act or Biden’s economy. He then searched the old articles for my comments, came up with nothing and used that to claim I never did criticize it, at which point I said "that's creepy."

                    9. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      This is pretty funny considering that "nothing" is exactly what I said we'd find

                      Conclusive. I will apply your powerful technique.

                      I never saw any posts of you criticizing the holocaust therefore we know you're a Nazi. Oh, let me look if you said anything about pedophilia...uh oh... this isn't good. No posts denying you're Satan. This is BAD.

                    10. Marshal   2 months ago

                      I never saw any posts of you criticizing the holocaust therefore we know you're a Nazi. Oh, let me look if you said anything about pedophilia...uh oh... this isn't good. No posts denying you're Satan. This is BAD.

                      That's exactly the same except the part where you claimed to have criticized Biden many times.

                    11. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Do you at least realize the absurdity of this spat being started by me saying something in favor of the right? Idiots.

                    12. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

                      Guess he wants me to add him to the jeffsarc folder.

                      I'll start bookmarking Mike.

                      Get ready for another name change buddy.

                    13. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      ^ When middle schoolers attack!

                2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

                  There you go again, resorting to cussing when plain words don't convince.

                  You are a liar, a hypocrite, and a suckass Trumpie. Your biggest fear is probably ever having to publicly admit Trump is a liar and ignoramus.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Which is interesting as the boyfriend not just thought he was a girl but also was a furry.

      4. Eeyore   2 months ago

        Ducks are delicious.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Indeed

    4. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      mostly difficult due to the weapons grade gaslighting from the young tankies (numerous "heres what a groyper is" articles over the weekend to throw smoke) and the ignorance of the boomers about the online world.

      They think every young radical dude online that is edgy is a "4 chan" guy, or now "groyper" thanks to the recent full court press gaslighing push.

    5. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      But he didn't have his tranny assissin I'd card so it doesn't count

      1. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

        The simple fact that we can even raise that point, and that we all recognize the absurd truth in it, illustrates the depth of the rot we must deal with.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      It could've been Ben Shapiro or Megyn Kelly or Matt Walsh or Tim Pool or Candace Owens... I mean anybody really.

      We may never know why.

      1. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

        Indeed. And why Matt Walsh and not Matt Welch? I mean, they're saying he was raised by conservatives, Right?

        It's just so confusing.

    7. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

      And growing up Mormon he obviously took a 180 from that and as Charlie spoke about religion and the nuclear family this was apparently enough.

      I have a feeling there will be more individuals involved.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        We already know of a few who seemed to have prior knowledge of what would happen. There’s also a guy behind Kirk, apparently signaling to someone, and another in the crowd who cheered when Kirk was hit and turned directly towards where the shooter was.

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          I don't put too much stock into the weird hand signals of the guy standing behind Kirk. There are many explanations. If he planned the assassination with Robinson, I don't think he'd be standing behind and slightly to the side of Kirk, risking his own life if the shooter missed.

          The guy at the front of the crowd celebrating after the shot should definitely be looked into more, despite his awful "apology" and denial that he read on video a day later. But even still, I would guess he's like all the other leftists that celebrated Kirk's murder: ghoulish, but not directly complicit in the crime.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        I wonder if he had recently used mass transit or lived in an urban area?

        Lots o’ culture warrin’ goin’ on in them spaces, imma tellin’ ya.

    8. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Well yeah, when you put it that way, but the MAGA affiliation throws this into doubt……

      …… Oooooh. Now I get it.

  5. damikesc   2 months ago

    Given the power teachers have over the future of young people, if they are so damned unbalanced to post celebration of the murder of somebody, they really should not have authority over anybody.

    We are seeing an "industry" (education) with a deep and seething problem. It is time to rectify this.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Hell, WHY was Kirk doing campus tours? Because educators refuse to provide an actual education to students.

      We are paying thru the nose for precious little benefit.

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Why have conservatives not pursued as many jobs in teaching? Unfriendly environment? More women teach, more women are left? People on the right would rather do, than teach? I'm betting a mix of all of the above.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

        I knew an old guy who was a shop teacher back in the days when shop class was a thing. He retired early because of the hostility towards his politics. This was mid 90's.

        1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

          Shop class is still a thing. At least for me it was. Wood shop in middle skool, Auto shop, metal shop, and robotics shop in high skool.

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            My oldest took shop (welding, woods, metal) in 2010-11 but shop was gone by 2012. Small town Idaho.

            Robotics is still around.

            1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

              Robotic for us had three branches, programmers, electronics, and mechanisms. Mechanisms used lathes, mills, drill presses etc. to machine parts.

              1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                The school I'm referring to - Robotics is now assembly and programming. No fabrication. It is all kitted parts. No creativity.

                1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

                  No creativity.

                  Creatively and conformity do not mix.

                  1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                    Creativity is for gender and sexuality, not education.

            2. MasterThief   2 months ago

              My high school dropped its auto shop the summer before I started 9th grade. One of the reasons I didn't choose to go to TJ was because my public school had shop. I was pissed.

            3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              A lot of high school shop programs in the 1990s-2000s shifted over to vo-tech schools that catered to training students between 16-21 for blue collar trades. I think even the high school programs ended by the 2010s, though. Most of those high school departments are solely "business and technology" now.

              Shame, too. I took regular shop in middle school and auto shop in high school, and while I've never been all that great at such things, it gave me a better appreciation for how hard the people who do those jobs really work. I had relatives in the trades but they typically didn't talk about their jobs all that much.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                Which is a shame as a number of us going into engineering wanted to take some of those shop and drafting classes. Yet, because I was in the honors classes, I couldn’t do so. Do they think smart kids don’t want to take shop and drafting?

                1. Zeb   2 months ago

                  Honors track kids could take the shop classes in HS (in the 90s), but we had weighted GPA, so for kids on honors track, the classes would lower GPA even if you got As. Fortunately I had wood shop at home and I got more out of that than I would have in the class at school.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                    One of the funnier scenes from "Dazed and Confused" was Benny making his paddle in wood shop.

              2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                Round here they have several of what they call regional tech centers where classes range from agriculture to welding.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                  Yeah, sounds about right. Same thing in Colorado as well, they just use the name of the old vo-tech schools for the same purpose. The ag part is limited to "horticulture," which we all know in Colorado just means "pot cultivation."

                  The programs have expanded a bit to include the "arts and tech" for stuff like web design or comm ops/computer systems control, as well as various medical assistant jobs.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          A lot of school teachers after 1970 were New Left or products of New Left ideological indoctrination. Most of the WW2 generation teachers, who were either conservative or at least old-line New Deal Democrats who hadn't been taught to hate the US, had retired by the end of the Cold War.

          1. Overt   2 months ago

            Additionally, the transition (hah!) of K-12 education from being populated by teachers with degrees in their specialty (e.g. Science or Math teachers having Science or Math degrees) to being populated by teachers with pedagogy degrees (Masters in Education) pushed the majority of people-who-would-be-teachers into colleges of hard-left, marxist education in schools that held all sorts of Critical studies professors.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              That's another good point. 30-plus years ago, I had high school science teachers who had MSs in their field and had simply gotten a teaching certificate, so they knew their subject matter back and forth. One even landed a fellowship for the summer at the hadron collider in Switzerland. The liberal arts teachers were degreed in their specialty, not in Education.

              The shift seems to have happened around that time when Freirean pedagogy started infiltrating the Education departments and it became about creating marxist activists, with the learning of the subject matter simply assumed. Now you have to major in Education and then pick a subject you might want to teach, because you have to get indoctrinated in these propaganda methods to qualify for your certificate.

              1. Overt   2 months ago

                There was a big push in Education to distinguish them- much like Lawyers or Doctors. This whole "Credentialism" was an import from Europe and infiltrated all over during the late 90s (I'm a PMP, SAFE Certified, Black Belt, LEAN Practitioner!).

                Now whether this was all the plan of the Marxists, or the Marxists just saw the opportunity and took it is beyond me.

            2. Marshal   2 months ago

              This is the same thing that happened to journalism. Journalism used to have many people with prior life experience who moved to journalism later in life bringing that knowledge with them. The leftists who marched through the institutions opposed this and created a weeding and indoctrination program to push out everyone who was not politically reliable. The result is that no one in the field knows anything independently so they accept whatever mantra they are given.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        There is no career path for them given they dont get tenure.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          Oftentimes they aren't even hired in the first place. The radical left took over the hiring committees after Y2K (there's articles from conservative professors and teachers talking about the shift during this time), and made sure only ideologically aligned students got grad school preference, and hiring considerations for teaching positions both in K-12 and in academia.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            unfortunately this same trend is going through medical schools right now, being that the governing bodies have been taken over by the left, and so many people higher up in the academic medicine world have also drank the kool aid.

            Which is why we have bullshit like not telling patients they are obese, not regularly weight patients or talking about their weight, and the non stop onslaught of LGBTQ/feminism/CRT style board questions we have on exams and credentialing.

            Its not as bad as standard PHD programs, as those are fully gone, as medicine skews more R than those, but its getting there.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              And then there was that video, either Vanderbilt or the University of Minnesota, I believe, where the med grads were reciting some dumb mantra about how Native American shamanism was just as valid as western medical science.

              1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

                same marxist shit every time. Just like the 'whole word' method of reading replacing phonics, "because black and indigenous tribes somewhere have different ways of knowing/learning that are just as valid"

                *reading rates fucking plummet*

      3. mamabug   2 months ago

        Teaching is one of the professions where social networking skills trump merit when it comes to career progression. That tends to drive away conservatives both because the latter usually prefer merit-based systems and because the social networks within education are intolerant of anything but the most leftist ideas, limiting job opportunities for any who differ.

        1. Overt   2 months ago

          Almost every business profession has this danger. Everyone knows of the company or department where all the hires are some Boss's old college buddies, or work colleagues from another company. (And to be fair, hiring people you know really well can sometimes be better than trying to determine who is "really good" based on a resume and some interviews)

          The difference is Government. A corporation that can't balance cronyism with the need to Get Shit Done will be out-maneuvered and ruined by competitors. But when a government props them up, the Social Networking will always take over in the end.

          1. mamabug   2 months ago

            True, however education is uniquely at risk of this since there are no opportunities to advance outside of that social network. With business professions, people have the options to change organizations or go off on their own and let the market reward their efforts.

      4. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

        They were attacked and forced out. UCLA during the Floyd riots is a perfect example.

    3. mamabug   2 months ago

      Anyone who publicly professes that someone getting killed for their political speech is somehow a 'deserved' outcome should not be financed by tax payer dollars. It is antithetical to the very principles the country was founded on.

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        Just wait until the next time a Democrat is shot. Celebrating their death will be patriotic.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

          Hundreds of democrats are shot every week, most of them in Chicago. When somebody tries to stop it, you cry Fascist!

          1. HorseConch   2 months ago

            They just blame it on all of the guns coming from IN that for some reason don't shoot everyone in IN on their way across that dangerous state line.

            1. damikesc   2 months ago

              Let's not forget --- because it was not widely reported --- that Hakeem Jefferies said late last week that he wants the Feds to ape Illinois model on policing and that Chicago is a place where crime is under control.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Your whataboutism is ridiculous and tiresome.

        3. Minadin   2 months ago

          I think the last shooting I was even tempted to celebrate was that of Bin Laden.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            I think my feelings about that were summed up as, “yes, got him, but I’d rather we took him back for trial.”

        4. Chumby   2 months ago

          Trump tried to reduce the number of Democratic Party members of color in DC from being shot and you were against that. Bigly.

        5. Marshal   2 months ago

          Sarc:

          "Whataboutism is wrong and a sign of intellectual bankruptcy, except when I do it."

          Every judgement sarc has ever made is 100% aligned with his team preferences.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Careful now, saying that to Sarc’s face might get you on his mute list.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              You're not allowed to punch back when Sarcasmic does it.

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                Sarc’s Democrats did it first

        6. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          When the MN Democrats were shot a couple months ago, I don't recall seeing the right celebrate that. Sure, you can find a few deranged or evil individuals of any ideology, but nothing like the onslaught of not-just-far-left but regular left in absolute jubilation over the murder of Charlie Kirk.

        7. mamabug   2 months ago

          And your reply adds anything to the conversation how?

    4. Minadin   2 months ago

      There was apparently one in Toronto who just got put on leave for showing the close-up, unedited video of the assassination to his class of 5th graders, over and over on repeat. The class? French language.

      https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/warmington-scarborough-teacher-accused-of-showing-charlie-kirk-murder-video-to-kids

      1. HorseConch   2 months ago

        While I don't think a parent should show it to their child at that age, that's their choice. No child should ever be compelled by a teacher to watch that. That should be a prosecutable offense.

        1. Minadin   2 months ago

          If you tried to show that to your own 10-year-old, I might question it, but I wouldn't suggest that CFS be called or anything. As you said, your choice as a parent.

          This seemed particularly evil to me, for several reasons.

    5. D-Pizzle   2 months ago

      "We are seeing an "industry" (education) with a deep and seething problem. It is time to rectify this."

      Nuke them from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

  6. tracerv   2 months ago

    https://x.com/wigger/status/1967447260935200953

    "This is you."

    Pretty powerful.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      Really good, but it would have been better if the guy was a disembodied narrator. I couldn't get over the fact he looked like a chubby Trotsky.

      1. Rick James   2 months ago

        Yeah, and I'm sorry, but I can't watch the murder of that young girl on the train again... ever again. I understand people are angry about it... I'm angry about it... as we all should be. But fuck that. I don't need that image in my head any more.

        1. tracerv   2 months ago

          I refuse to ever forget her look of confusion and pain. I want to but fuck that. Last week will be with me until I die.

          1. HorseConch   2 months ago

            You're not wrong. It felt like things changed when Trump got shot in Butler. This past week was 10x that feeling. My Facebook feed is full of pictures and quips about Charlie by people that I mostly assumed didn't even know who he was.

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Agreed. I've seen it way more times than I wanted. One of the most disturbing things I've ever seen.

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            Same. I’m a pretty cynical chap, but the look on that poor girls face after it happened….

            I don’t wanna see a fucking snuff film.

    2. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

      "Pretty powerful."

      Pure demagoguery, Hyde's a professional troll.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        What's demagogic about it? Is something untrue, or is talking about what actually happened demagoguery right now?

        1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

          Maybe look into Hyde?

          1. tracerv   2 months ago

            You sound like the people saying shit about Kirk. Who cares who is saying it if it's the truth?

            1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

              JFC

              1. tracerv   2 months ago

                It's Isreal isn't it? You are not going to listen because he's not for Israel.

                Fuck off.

                1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

                  Listen to yourself.

          2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            "Maybe look into Hyde?"

            Maybe have the balls to give us a legitimate allegation instead of smearing by inference.

            1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

              The guy is a known provocateur, maybe you can legitimately learn to Google? Learn to use question marks while you are at it.

      2. tracerv   2 months ago

        Is he wrong about this? I'd say no.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto...

    The shooter lives. Seems like we're going to know eventually. I don't think this one can be memory holed like the Vegas shooter or the various school shooters who were not taken alive. (An epsteining not withstanding.)

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      The other Vegas shooters are still alive

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I'm referring to Jim McGreevey, who is running for mayor of Jersey City.

    He missed his time by about one presidential election.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The New York Times gave leftist commentator/Twitch streamer Hasan Piker an op-ed on our growing problem with political violence and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, whom he was supposed to debate later this month.

    Che talks about the importance of the local farmer.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      LOL, no shit. These people always call for violence until they think it's going to blow back on them, and then it's "whoa, that's not what we meant!"

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Just like Sarc. He feels free to make all sorts of comments until he gets the blowback from them.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          Maybe with you guys. Sarc and I have a different dynamic.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            He makes a comment. We call him out for it. He then claims we misread his comment and it didn’t mean what we all thought it meant. Jesse or ML posts the bookmarked comment (which consists of a line or two). Sarc then tries to claim we’re just reading it wrong and he didn’t mean it (or some such BS).

            1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

              Why i post the full comment for him, which he will then claim he didn't say and out of context despite full context.

  10. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    ""Around 1,000 [LGBT] pilgrims gathered Friday in the 17th century baroque church [Rome's Church of the Gesù] to play music, pray and reflect, while on Saturday they processed to St Peter's Basilica, entering through the basilica's Holy Door, which symbolizes forgiveness and reconciliation,""

    So were they asking for forgiveness and reconciliation for sinful actions associated with being LGBT?

    If not, then they are being false.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Maybe someone should point out that after Jesus forgave the woman caught in adultery, he told her " . . . go and sin no more.".
      Those who continue in sin are not repentant.

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The U.S. will go ahead with a ban on short-video app TikTok if China won't drop demands for reducing tariffs...

    "We'll enforce our own laws if you don't free trade with us."

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      So TikTok is on what, their 42nd 'last chance'?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        The answer to life, the universe, and everything.

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          Nice "Hitchhikers" reference.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...those who are homeless and mentally ill ought to be euthanized by "involuntary lethal injection."

    I can't even "you know who else" this one because it's too on the nose.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

      You know who else didn't like crazy?

      (There, I guess that works.)

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        The Dutch:
        https://nrlc.org/nrlnewstoday/2025/04/dutch-euthanasia-for-mental-illness-surges-60-including-teen-with-autism/

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Absolutely enraging and they're looking at expanding to that in Canada.

          It always begins with talk about relieving the terminally ill from agonizing pain and ends up with rail cars full of social outcasts.

          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

            The 'logic' they use is insane. 'We had to euthanize him or he would have tried suicide again.' What the fuck is wrong with these people? Also, the mentally ill by definition can't consent to euthanasia, so the state is literally killing them because they have a mental illness.

        2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          This shit is insane.

        3. Zeb   2 months ago

          That is just the worst. Absolutely the opposite of any reasonable standard of care for mentally ill people. The point is to prevent suicide and other self harm.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        The left? Haha I kid

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      You know who else tried to stick it in crazy?

      1. MasterThief   2 months ago

        Every guy?

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Eva Braun?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Crazy stuck it in her.

    3. Rick James   2 months ago

      Your comment is about COVID, isn't it?

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        Different injections, but they are both for your health.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    "What Declining Cardboard Box Sales Tell Us About the US Economy"

    That we're finally recycling!

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Everybody finally has a home!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        Aw.

        1. MasterThief   2 months ago

          Cvsd

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      We are using more of those plastic bags to ship stuff?

      1. Horatio Cornblower   2 months ago

        Good point

  14. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    What do you call hundreds of educators losing their jobs for celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death?

    A good start. The ideological caputure of education has to end.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Exactly this. These creatures have acted like there's nothing anyone can do about it. Finally, some accountability.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The fact that the pilgrimage of gay Catholics was put in the official jubilee program is of some significance...

    We're all sinners, of course, but I think there is an element of repentance required for the Holy Door's use.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      The Holy Backdoor?

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        Ew.

        1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

          New monkeypox outbreak found at St. peters.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            Then they'll tell us that, actually, it's all Churches at risk of monkeypox, not just the ones that identify as Catholic churches.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        Thou shall not covet thy neighbor’s tranny gaymer lover.

      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        The Backdoor Hole-y?

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      There is a taffy pulling contest at st Peter's. Not a Peter pulling contest at taffys!

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      It's okay. They all have Akita emotional support animals.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The Trump administration plans to inject nearly $500 million into historically Black colleges and tribal universities...

    Or, and hear me out, we can stop funneling taxpayer dollars to any university.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      All classes are taught in jive

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Oh, stewardess? I speak Jive.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          Chump don't want no help chump don't git no help

  17. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    people often post this stuff to imply that moral panics about the technologies of the past were quaint. But the past is full of reminders that we are on a long, slow march away from embodied experience, and that we’ve lost more of it than we can even remember

    Not entirely sure what "embodied experience" means here. Old traditions are replaced with new. I didn't spend yesterday singing choir with the family, but I did sped it enthusiastically watching football with friends. I don't feel as if I'd "lost" anything.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      If you spent the day watching millionaires playing a game, you may have actually lost something.

      1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        It's not even about the game. It's about hanging out with friends, yelling at the TV together, rooting for a common cause.

        1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

          The beer, General; don't forget the beer.

        2. mad.casual   2 months ago

          It's not even about the game. It's about hanging out with friends, yelling at the TV together, rooting for a common cause.

          You realize this isn't helping you, right?

  18. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    The Trump administration plans to inject nearly $500 million into historically Black colleges and tribal universities,

    Proof Trump is a racist monster.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Proof he is not a small government guy, or he would cut all funding to all colleges, regardless of race.
      Then all other schools.

      1. Ron   2 months ago

        However if you are going to continue to fund schools why shouldn't certain other schools also get help. the left has often called Trump racist but he helped those communities in his first term and he appears to continue to help "marginalized groups" and i don't think he is doing it to prove he isn't racist since he did such things before he was president

  19. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

    "Piker has been an archetypal radical, repeatedly calling for political violence on his streams, over and over again."

    Calls for violence all the time, called for the murder or rick scott (24hr twitch ban on a day he is normally off), doxxed some dude in chat who was talking shit while waving a (fake, lol) glock around threatening him, turns out he doxxed the wrong guy, so double whammy.

    He is a weapons grade retard and ignoramous, and has legions of tankie followers more retarded and equally thirsty for violence. This dude is one of the biggest dangers to America and gets puff pieces in the MSM

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Him and the bluesky fags have called for violence. Parlor was shut down for less. Fuck the subhuman left

    2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      Piker also doesn't believe a word he says. You can see the glint of a used car salesman in his eyes. He has nothing but disdain for the landwhales and blue hairs who follow him.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        its a mix of that and he is fully audience captured as well. The few times he has strayed away from the true believers they set him straight.

        Girl harassed the shit out of him in public for drinking a coke, he changed
        He wanted to play hogwarts legacy when it launched, his chat flamed him like crazy and threatened a boycott, he didnt play

        He is probably the most audience captured creator, and that audience wants far left "by any means necessary" tankie communism.

        1. damikesc   2 months ago

          We should call him by his real name: Cenk Uygur's nephew.

          Because his entire career is largely borne from that.

  20. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

    "very normal young man" who had been "radicalized" after dropping out of college and moving back to southern Utah"

    importantly, moving in with his trans furry bf. He didn't find community with his conservative family, or at college, or with people in general in utah, and he retreated to his deranged left wing bubble in between blowing his tranny bf. Left wing politics online broke this dudes brain.

    Absolutely another mark against team tranny

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Just don’t call out the trantifa rainbow cult Discord group on this one.

    2. Marshal   2 months ago

      It's instructive the left claims we can't infer anything about him but we can absolutely conclude his family is "very Republican". This shows us how they adjust the standard of evidence necessary to reach a conclusion based on whether they want that conclusion to be reached.

      His family being Republican doesn't say anything about him, but it became the talking point because it supports the narrative. Meanwhile his actions in targeting Kirk and dating a transgender are dismissed because they are not epistemically certain. The standard changes to accept any evidence or no evidence depending on whether the conclusion helps or hurts the left.

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        “……who cares if he’s gay? frankly, it doesn’t really matter.”

        >chemjeff.

    3. damikesc   2 months ago

      In the tranny's defense --- he is doing the right thing. He is working with the investigators about the crime.

      He and the killer's father both came through and did the right thing.

  21. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

    Chemjeff Criminal Psychopath spent yesterday smearing Charlie Kirk with lies and insinuating he had it coming, in order to assuage the guilt of his compatriots.

    I just want to take a moment to say; Fuck you, Jeff, you garbage human.

    Feel free to join in or add a message of your own.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      It was fun encouraging the big tummy dummy to share his pathology with the commentariat.

    2. Iranian Investments (Ask me how)   2 months ago

      Fuck you chemjeff!

    3. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

      Kirk has thousands of hours of video online. Yet jeff and others cant actually find and cite videos of the bigotry.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Chemjeff Criminal Psychopath spent yesterday smearing Charlie Kirk with lies and insinuating he had it coming, in order to assuage the guilt of his compatriots.

      The fat fuck really does think that every day is a clean slate, and all the arguments made against him have to be re-litigated to be considered valid again.

    5. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      So I shall.

      Fuck you, Jeffy, and the jackass you rode here on.

    6. Rick James   2 months ago

      The Maryland Dad of commenters really seems to have lost his shit over the Kirk assassination. I'm not even really sure why.

      It got to the point where it was like coming into a chatroom about the Holocaust and someone kept saying, "Guys, guys, let's not forget, they were Jews though..."

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        The Kirk assassination has broken jeff in the same way Trump broke sarc.

      2. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

        He loves the gay/trans community. He can't accept they are the bad guys so he resorts to all kinds of congative dissoance to keep his world view viable. Remember his defense of drag queen/groomer story time.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          He had a meltdown when it was pointed out that several were registered sex offenders.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Maybe it all hits too close to home for Jeffy.

    7. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Jeff is a gray box to me. But working from memory I can confidently say Fuck You, Jeff, You Garbage Human.

    8. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Aw, c’mon now. I’m hoping he’ll come back to expand on the MAGA “culture war” on “using mass transit or living in urban areas”.

      I realize that it doesn’t have the chuckle factor of “bears in trunks”, but I have to know more, dammit!

      C’mon Jeff. What’s up with that?

  22. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

    Just a reminder that King Choco and his buddies kicked this all off:

    “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.” Barack Obama in July 2008
    “I want you to argue with them and get in their face!” Barack Obama, September 2008
    “I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” Barack Obama on ACORN mobs, March 2010
    “We talk to these folks… so I know whose ass to kick.” Barack Obama, June 2010
    “We’re gonna punish our enemies and we’re gonna reward our friends.” Barack Obama, October 2010
    “If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Jim Messina, 2009

    The left wants you to forget that they've spent the last decade and a half gleefully indulging in the very thing they said was okay when they did it, even ruining the prospects of teenagers for something as innocuous as doing the "made you look" hand signal, because they fell for a dumb 4chan prank.

    They'll try to get you to back down by claiming "it's not going to make you any more content or righteous" and "you just want to own the libs" if you give them their own medicine. They have to resort to this bullshit shaming language because they have absolutely no redeeming qualities as a political movement anymore, just nonstop revolutions until some dumb vision of a communist utopia supposedly emerges from the ashes of what they've destroyed. And they always do it under the pretense that "the post-fascist period is one of clear and present danger" to justify their destruction.

    Only when the left admits, "Yes, this was wrong and we never should have done it," then we can talk about de-escalation. Until then, hurt them the same way they hurt their political enemies. Force is all these assholes understand.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Sums up as "you cannot negotiate with your executioner".

    2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      The left wants you to forget that they've spent the last decade and a half gleefully indulging in the very thing they said was okay when they did it, even ruining the prospects of teenagers for something as innocuous as doing the "made you look" hand signal, because they fell for a dumb 4chan prank.
      and these same people cheered the murder of Charlie Kirk.

  23. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

    "These all seem very online, and very gamery, and not even explicitly political, per se, other than calling his target a fascist."

    A big realignment that has happened is who can be found in which circles. For sure, a bunch or right wing guys can be found in the gaming community, but in the last decade especially since the games world and games journos have been infiltrated by so many women, and commie simping men, its no longer a safe assumption that an online gamer is "another right wing chud".

    This goes for pretty much every genre previously reserved for teenage to early 20s dudes.

    D&D? Its a full on LGBTQ tranny fest now.
    Magic? Just as bad. Check out any of the magic forums (or D&D) online, its basically bluesky

    Video games very unfortunately let WAYYYY too many women in specifically post me2, and women and left wing minorities in the post-gamergate DEIification of society we have been undergoing. Fortunately the worst offenders (sweet baby inc) have been pushed back on that they are going bankrupt, but there are still far too many that have had full composition changes, leaning into a more feminist message. Its ruined the quality of so many games, and is the reason you have so many of these tranny weirdos in this fantasy community.

    Of note, the new dragon age, which was supposed to be a slam dunk money printer, was a terrible flop because they hired a trans director who put tranny/nonbinary shit all into the storyline. Complete with the ability to make ugly as fuck characters with vittiligo and mastectomy scars.

    Dont ever assume the gaming world (or any previous fantasy world reserved for based dudes) is "right wing", ever. Women and left wing activist marched through these properties when all the corpos went whole hog into pride/diversity, and they will never be the same again.

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      Yeah, but gaming was the one... the ONE property that fought back, which is why it got branded as right wing. Hell hath no fury like a post-modern woke Marxist scorned. The whole point about Gamergate was the woke element rolling all over the field, holding its ankle like so much European football field drama because they got pushback on their horseshit.

      It's just like the McCarthy era: It's painted as literally the darkest time in modern American history. Again, because someone pushed back. Now the history you hear about it is one completely invented by the Marxists. Gamergate is McCarthyism for the modern woke.

      1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        Just for the record:
        Tail gunner Joe DID find communists embedded in the government.

        1. Rick James   2 months ago

          And he never had a single Hollywood hearing, and he was not concerned with people sympathetic to communism, he wanted to root out people in the House and government who were loyal to the Soviet Union.

          1. Rick James   2 months ago

            Link at proper time.

            1. damikesc   2 months ago

              He also, and historians intentionally forget this, wanted the hearings to be private in case some innocents WERE in the numbers of the accused.

              Democrats demanded public hearings.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        "The whole point about Gamergate was the woke element rolling all over the field, holding its ankle like so much European football field drama because they got pushback on their horseshit."

        Absolutely true. The games journos circled the wagons and turned it into essentially a cry-bullying of "these right wing gamer chuds just hate women" as a deflection of the valid criticisms they had. I remember that shit so well because it was the first time I really saw the microcosm of what the MSM does in a smaller, focused industry. All the games journos followed the same playbook that they do, as they are from the same cloth.

        I was pretty left leaning going into gamergate, and I remember thinking..."they seem to be talking shit on and hating gamers like me...for noticing they are doing something wrong" despite the fact that I probably lined up more with their politics at the time than I do now.

        Nice thing is the market is at least still having a say in games. Most woke shit gets a gamer boycott. The only woke stuff people will play has to have excellent gameplay. Ubisoft went broke, sweet baby went broke, concord lost half a billion dollars and shut down in 2 weeks, and eastern studios that just make good games get richer by the day. Hard to push marxism in a system that still has some input with respect to the free marketplace of ideas. Much easier to push in a fully captured institution (academia, hollywood, govt) from the top down

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          It helps that all of the most progressive games have epically failed in the market. It's the same thing plaguing Disney's new Marvel movies, or their movies in general, and why those have been spectacular failures.

          They took it as a given that men would continue to consume their product even while they bashed them in particular. Turns out, men were by far their largest demographic and without them their movies aren't watched by anyone.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            Disney Star Wars and Disney Marvel are perfect examples, you are correct. They thought the dudes would just show up, and they could pander to women and left wingers.

            Turns out, that makes for shitty TV guys dont like so they turned it off, and the demo they were trying to add never cared in the first place.

            1. BYODB   2 months ago

              It says something about how utterly garbage their new Star Wars films have been when they manage to make George Lucas's prequel trilogy look competent by comparison.

              It will never stop being hilarious to me that they paid 4 billion dollars for the franchise and then promptly destroyed the entire thing.

              Sure, they made some money off of it but they only did so by literally killing the golden goose. Kennedy should have been fired long, long ago but Disney apparently just can't figure that out.

              While we're on morons who are busy destroying popular franchises, let us not forget that monumental retard Alex Kurtzman as well.

              They can apparently lose money every time and still not be fired. I wish I had that kind of job security.

            2. Chumby   2 months ago

              The Fantastic Fourries

          2. damikesc   2 months ago

            Marvel's flops should not be a surprise.

            They are making films based on recent Marvel comics --- which nobody reads.

            When they were successful, they were using the stories from the 80's mainly. Now? The shit from the 2000's is unreadable crap.

            And the writers in Hollywood aren't competent enough to improve anything.

        2. Marshal   2 months ago

          It's unappreciated how much damage GamerGate caused. Anita Sarkissian, an activist gadfly and not a gamer, managed to make herself the center of controversy with the assistance of the left media. She successfully lobbied twitter to create a Safety Committee with herself as the chair from which she immediately initiated twitter's censorship campaign against non-left opinions.

        3. damikesc   2 months ago

          "Absolutely true. The games journos circled the wagons and turned it into essentially a cry-bullying of "these right wing gamer chuds just hate women" as a deflection of the valid criticisms they had. I remember that shit so well because it was the first time I really saw the microcosm of what the MSM does in a smaller, focused industry. All the games journos followed the same playbook that they do, as they are from the same cloth."

          The biggest plus is that "games journalism" is effectively dead. There are, maybe, 3 reporters covering it. The rest is unreadable opinion pieces and several sites are switching to game guides only because of how horrible their content has been.

          It's sad that China has released a game without all of the leftie BS (Black Myth Wukong) while many, many Western games cannot avoid that.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      D&D? Its a full on LGBTQ tranny fest now.

      Absolutely correct. It's nauseating.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        Out of curiosity the wife and I took a look at the local board games pub where they have magic, D&D sessions, warhammer etc. Its....fucking depressingly like they invited all the rejects from libsoftiktok videos into one place to play games. Septum piercings, colored hair, everyone is fat as fuck, and half the people in there were trying to pass (poorly) trannies

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          They certainly don't look like those kids from Stranger Things anymore, that's for sure.

          Just to put this out there, because I really like D&D and movies in particular, if you are into those things and somehow have not yet come across it I highly recommend Dorkness Rising. It's an indie film made by people who really loved D&D, and for a small project it was really well done.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Video games very unfortunately let WAYYYY too many women in specifically post me2

      Dude, that started long before metoo. Nerd culture got infiltrated after Big Bang Theory came out and accelerated when Feminist Frequency started getting government sponsorship.

      1. Groovus Maximus   2 months ago

        It started with, "The Great Boobplate & Chainmail Bikini Flame Wars,"....

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          "DUH MAIL GAYZ!"

    4. MT-Man   2 months ago

      Yeah the whole gaming community has lost a big chunk of folks. My friends and I were just talking about how the gaming stores used to be a spot to game, now it's a spot for political representation and almost all of us don't go there now and don't want to because of the infiltration, it's uncomfortable and not fun. You are correct, I think in the board/card game world magic got hijacked away from just gaming, then DND and others.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        Nerds should have been a lot more aggressive about gatekeeping.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

          This. Its a lesson. Definitely should gate keep progressive loons, but honestly, just stopping women from taking over a hobby probably solves 90% of the issue from go

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            To be fair, it's hard to blame a subculture known for being socially awkward virgins getting stoked over girls wanting to spend time with them.

    5. BYODB   2 months ago

      As a gamer myself, I can tell you that the moderators for just about every platform are overwhelmingly Progressive. You can see this in what gets banned and taken down and what isn't.

      There are still lots of conservative gamers, but they are well aware that if they say anything they will be banned from the platforms they otherwise enjoy.

      Even the Steam forums, which are a cesspool, allow all sorts of rhetoric against conservatives but if you say one thing that could be interpreted as even slightly negative towards trans or gay people you will be instantly silenced. I see it just about every day.

      Just to be clear, that is legal and doesn't implicate the 1st amendment it's just scummy and drives people to either self censor or leave the platform.

      1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Sports sites as well. Even the sports reddit still have X links banned due to the Elon nazi salute bullshit.

    6. damikesc   2 months ago

      It's why the gaming industry is in a crash they do not wish to admit (look at the number of big title releases and the massive volume of layoffs) and people like me are laughing at it. "9,000 layoffs at Microsoft? Maybe they should not suck at their jobs so bad"

      Screw the lion's share of Western developers. Ubisoft is a terrible company and ground zero for almost all of the horrendousness in the business.

  24. Rick James   2 months ago

    people often post this stuff to imply that moral panics about the technologies of the past were quaint. But the past is full of reminders that we are on a long, slow march away from embodied experience, and that we’ve lost more of it than we can even remember

    I also like how the 'reminders' that they like to show us have a family sitting together. Like... who does that any more?

  25. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

    "I've created a spreadsheet"

    LOL, lady, you're massively behind the curve now. That one website logging everyone who's displayed a hilarous lack of OPSEC while celebrating his death has something like 20,000 verified names at this point.

    What's ultimately driving a lot of this right now is the realization by people on the right that it isn't just politicians or loud-mouthed pundits with no filter going off on this. It's the people teaching their kids, their college professors (okay, that was a given), various bureaucrat chair moisteners they deal with every day, small business owners, military members including field grade officers, and medical personnel who might be treating or operating on them one day. The natural conclusion is that if these people are okay with Kirk being assassinated for his political positions (which they are, as they spend paragraphs explaining why while disingenuously claiming they don't out of the other side of their mouth), they're okay with them being killed for the same reason.

    And as I mentioned, these idiots have NO OPSEC whatsoever. You can tell they've had a decade-plus of being indulged by everyone including corporations and the government, because they wouldn't be so blatant about broadcasting it otherwise. At least Trantifa is smart enough to do their death threats and tard-raging behind VPNs and anonymous accounts.

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      At least Trantifa is smart enough to do their death threats and tard-raging behind VPNs and anonymous accounts.

      And prone on rooftops.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      They have never experienced a single pushback on anything they have ever said, no matter how insane, from childhood til now.

      This is their first time and it shows.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        They thought they could do what they wanted with impunity and the other side would have infinite patience for it. Now they're coping over it being done back to them in the span of about a week. You're right that this is largely the result of grown-ass men and women who've never been told "no" in their lives, and were brain-rotted into thinking they were on The Right Side of History.

  26. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Have Republicans proposed a "Charlie Kirk" law yet? After all, that's what leftists do whenever one of their own is shot, and Trump's GOP is doing its damnedest to be just like the leftists they hate.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      You're sure mad that people are punching back this time, aren't you Sarckles.

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        Not as mad as the marxist retard though.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        The only problem with kicks shooting to these jokers is the optics.

        The desperation from the media and others pushing he came from a conservative family is palpable.

    2. Super Scary   2 months ago

      Mike Lee tweeted something about restoring the "Smith-Mundt Act" and renaming it the "Charlie Kirk Act." Not sure if it'll actually happen or not.

  27. Rick James   2 months ago

    Lefty boomers who left positions of power due to sex scandals involving members of their staff apparently feel like they need another shot at political office.

    Also known as Male Feminists.

    1. Groovus Maximus   2 months ago

      Lefty boomers...apparently feel like they need another shot in political orifice.

      There, Paul. FTFY. 🙂

  28. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Oh, Liz!

    While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto and very little online posting to link him to anything like that

    Let's see ....

    * "murderous": Assuming they did actually get the right murderer, yes, he is murderous.

    * "trans": He's a male living (and presumably sleeping with) a gay male cross-dresser who calls himself trans. That's about as close as you can get to trans without actually calling oneself trans.

    * "advocate": He certainly advocated for murder. Living and sleeping with a gay male cross-dresser who calls himself trans certainly doesn't make him an opponent of the trans lifestyle.

    Yup, I'd say Robinson fits just about perfectly into that "murderous trans advocate" category, regardless of any manifesto. If you actually want a manifesto, perhaps those bullet casings will just have to do. Sometimes actions speak louder than words, hmmmm?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Yeah, it's already been reported that his family members were talking about how he'd gotten a lot more strident lately, was a Democrat in a mostly Republican family, and had been spazzing out about Kirk specifically.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        But there's no manifesto by the suspect himself, so those don't count.

        Sometimes a murderous trans advocate is just an alleged murderer. But if his being a trans advocate turns out to be lies, I will be one surprised commenter.

      2. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

        Reports today of FBI looking into social media of Trans accounts that predicted the shooting a week prior. One of them followed the assassins Trans boyfriend.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          I'm sure pretty much every black site has been going through Discord and Bluesky the last 3-4 days.

        2. Chumby   2 months ago

          Why is that important? Nothing to see here. And Kirk debated college students anyways.

          - marxist tard

        3. BYODB   2 months ago

          I'm still at least a little skeptical that the boyfriend knew nothing about it, but it's more likely that the trans boyfriends politics informed the shooting even while they had absolutely nothing to do with the shooting itself.

          Under the standard used for Michelle Carter that might be good enough for jail time, but then I never agreed with that verdict myself.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            I wouldnt be surprised if shooter made comments that he wanted to do it or was even planning to, but bf just took it as a comment made out of anger/solidarity with him. Im sure he said tons of deranged shit on the daily

        4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          There are also apparently some books out about the shooting that got published on September 9, 10, and 11. How the hell do you publish a book about an event the day before it happens? Or even the day of or day after? These guys knew something was happening and may have been in on it.

          1. JesseAz (RIP CK)   2 months ago

            Yeah, that looks like a foreign person trying to use AI book generation for profit. Apparently they have a history of just putting placeholders on dates to get AI slop out quickly.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              That might be for the 10th and 11th, but the book published on the 9th is highly suspect. That’s the day before Charlie was shot. Even AI slop isn’t that fast.

              1. mamabug   2 months ago

                Most likely explanation of that is someone just replaced an already published book to get the algorithm points.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Yeah all this obsession with motive is one of the dumbest talking points ever. Does every murderer have to publish a manifesto before we can determine a motive? With the known record common sense reveals the motive. It's not like this guy came home and found Charlie Kirk in bed with his tranny boyfriend. This was not a crime of passion. He searched Kirk's schedule and drove 250 miles to get to him, rifle in hand. This was a political assassination of a private actor known only for his political philosophy. There is no mystery.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        This goes down even so far as Reason's "Junk Science". No amount of evidence will exonerate the Right and there is no evidence to implicate the left. Or not enough to matter.

  29. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    After listing two people who said bad things, Liz follows up with ....

    I'm not convinced we need to make lists of people who say bad things:

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      A bit ironic. I used to be against making such lists, but after this assassination, I’m done with these assholes. They’ve gone way too far and way beyond the pale. I’m all for making the lists and getting these guys some kind of consequences for their behavior.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        Amen!

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      There's a difference between saying bad things and openly inciting violence.

  30. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    We don't know very much about why he chose Kirk as his target...

    He was a deranged violent tranny. It's that simple.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      No, he was just a bog-standard furfag. There's quite a bit of overlap in that subculture, but there's no indication as of yet that he was a tranny as well, just his "roommate."

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        His refusal to out himself as either gay or trannie was a noble self-sacrifice.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          The hilarious part is how the left is going through Olympic-tier mental gymnastics to claim that he's really a MAGA groyper.

          1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

            they seem to finally be moving on to the "it doesnt matter who the shooter was or what his motivations were, we need to take everyone's guns" phase today. The gaslighting didnt quite take

          2. BYODB   2 months ago

            Yeah, I've taken those people to task everywhere I've found them.

            Ask them how many trans people willingly shack up with Christian conservatives, and how many Christian conservatives willingly choose to live with trans people. As a bonus, you can ask them how many of those types of people have sex with each other too.

            That shuts them up almost instantly since it forces them to confront their cognitive dissonance. They realize that no one on their side would actually do that, and neither would the guy on the other side.

            1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

              "Ask them how many trans people willingly shack up with Christian conservatives, and how many Christian conservatives willingly choose to live with trans people. As a bonus, you can ask them how many of those types of people have sex with each other too."

              Seen a lot of these. Their no shit response is

              "he is a closeted gay/tranny lover (like all conservatives, lul), groyper who hates Charlie Kirk because he wasn't extreme *enough*, even though that would mean being more extreme against transgender people and gays...or something...I mean the guy drives a dodge charger why are we even having this debate?!?!"

              1. damikesc   2 months ago

                You could also ask if the dude was a groyper...why does Fuentes not support it?

                Like at all.

              2. BYODB   2 months ago

                It's hard to argue someone is 'in the closet' when they are actively fucking another dude. I have to wonder what they think 'in the closet' actually means, natch.

                1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                  I saw a clip of the news interviewing Robinson's neighbor. The reporter, trying desperately to downplay it, kept asking how the neighbor knows Robinson was "in a relationship" with his roommate. The kid's response was great. Something like:

                  "Well, I can't know for sure. But straight guys don't normally hold their "roommate's" hand in public, and certainly aren't kissing their "roommate" in public either."

                2. Zeb   2 months ago

                  I think the fucking another dude is generally part of being in the closet. It's the trying not to let other people know that you are fucking another dude that's the closet part.

                  1. BYODB   2 months ago

                    Ok, that's fair. Doesn't sound like they were shy about it though.

  31. BYODB   2 months ago


    While it's possible that Robinson fits into some "murderous trans advocate" category, right now we have no manifesto and very little online posting to link him to anything like that (let alone this broader pattern that the Post is trying to claim); you need more before we can really determine motive.

    I mean, he lived in Utah (a very conservative Mormon state) with a guy that thinks he's a girl. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say we can figure at least a few conclusions from that.

    Namely that he was terminally online and hated himself, at the very least. Given that it's been confirmed that he was 'in a relationship' with the trans guy, it's notable that he engraved taunts towards gay people on his bullets. That screams self loathing, even if he wasn't aware of it himself, since he was having sex with another man.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      There's a lot of people playing dumb right now and pretending that dots can't be connected, which is something they should have learned how to do in kindergarten.

      1. Groovus Maximus   2 months ago

        They're too busy eating paste & crayons... still.

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          Wait, so now they are U.S. Marines?

          /joke

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        ...but they CAN tie Trump directly to the 1/6 riot. Clever kids.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      "That screams self loathing, even if he wasn't aware of it himself, since he was having sex with another man."

      Iran rules apply. If you suck a dick but its a lady's dick, no homosexuality has happened.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        It's like the guys who try and say it's not gay to be the pitcher, just the catcher, when you're still getting your dick hard over another man's ass.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          I'm reminded of an old Sam Kinison bit. 🙂

          1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_G9ta7AHsIU

        2. D-Pizzle   2 months ago

          This post has been "Akita verified."

        3. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

          It's the Prison Sex Rules. If you take a dick, you cease to be a man. Once a bitch, always a bitch.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        If he was tehran into the other man’s ass, that makes him gay.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          I’m going to have to mullah that over.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Ayatollah you’d have to do that.

    3. Rick James   2 months ago

      I mean, he lived in Utah (a very conservative Mormon state) with a guy that thinks he's a girl.

      Promethean transformations all around!

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      The number of "i hate my dad" mormons in utah who go batshit crazy lib is off the charts. it's an epidemic.

  32. Eeyore   2 months ago

    Get out of here with that gamer shit. They are radicalized degenerates who just happen to game. Might as well call them radicalized eaters, because sometimes they eat.

    1. mamabug   2 months ago

      Pretty much every male under 25 is a 'gamer' in one way or another. It's the default social activity of Gen Z.

  33. NoVaNick   2 months ago

    I would love it if those who celebrate and or mocked Charlie Kirk’s death were banished for life from the US. Don’t know of many other countries that would want them, though. Maybe the UK.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Rubio is using statements by foreigners celebrating the assassination as a reason to deny entry. Jeff must be a frustrated mess over that.

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        Fine with me. Support for terrorism should result in non-issuance or revocation of any visa type.

  34. NoVaNick   2 months ago

    Apparently, Michael Mann at UPenn, a well known climate change expert , made some comments about Charlie Kirk being Trump’s Hitler youth director. He deleted the post but I don’t think will face any consequences. The fact that he is retarded enough to post such shit in the first place tells me he is not qualified to be on the Penn faculty, or receive millions in government grants.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      Seems like he needs a new environment.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Mann's been lying for so long now that it's just assumed at this point.

  35. Flaco   2 months ago

    "and not even explicitly political, per se, other than calling his target a fascist."

    Umm, I think calling someone a fascist (who actually isn't!) is very very much a political statement.

  36. terston   2 months ago

    I’ve hung out in gaming chats where jokes get taken out of context, and suddenly outsiders assume there’s something darker going on. For people who want to try something different, checking out online casinos with free spins can be a fun way to stumble across new games without spending much at first. I’ve done it a couple times and found some surprisingly creative game designs there. Honestly, the piece is a good reminder not to jump to conclusions about whole communities.

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