AI Chatbots Might Already Be Better Than Humans at Debating
In a recent study, participants were paired with either a human or an AI debate opponent. The results confirm AI's power of persuasion.

In a May 2025 study in Nature Human Behavior, researchers set up online debates between two humans, and between a human and the large language model GPT-4. In some debates, they provided both humans and AI with basic personal information about their opponents—age, sex, ethnicity, employment, political affiliation. They wanted to find out if such personalized information helped debaters both human and machine to craft more persuasive arguments.
Debaters were randomly assigned to either human or AI opponents. According to the study, GPT-4 heavily relied on logical reasoning and factual knowledge whereas humans tended to deploy more expressions of support and more storytelling. After debating, human participants were asked if their views had shifted, and if they thought their opponent was human or AI.
AI more effectively deployed personalized information in its debates than did humans. For example, in arguing the affirmative during a debate with a middle-aged white male Republican on the topic "Should Every Citizen Receive a Basic Income from the Government?" the AI highlighted arguments that universal basic income (UBI) would boost economic growth and empower all citizens with the freedom to invest in skills and businesses. When arguing with a black middle-aged female Democrat, the AI emphasized how UBI would function as a safety net, promoting economic justice and individual freedom.
When GPT-4 had access to personal information about its opponents, researchers found it was more persuasive than human debaters about 64 percent of the time. Without the personal information, GPT-4 success was about the same as a human. In contrast, human debaters didn't get better when supplied with personal information.
Participants debating AI correctly identified their opponent in three out of four cases. Interestingly, the researchers report that "when participants believed they were debating with an AI, they changed their expressed scores to agree more with their opponents compared with when they believed they were debating with a human." They speculate that peoples' egos are less bruised by admitting they had lost when their opponent was an AI rather than another human being.
The persuasive power of AI after accessing basic personal information concerned researchers who worry that "malicious actors interested in deploying chatbots for large-scale disinformation campaigns could leverage fine-grained digital traces and behavioural data, building sophisticated, persuasive machines capable of adapting to individual targets."
A 2024 study in Science showed that AI dialogues could durably reduce conspiracy beliefs. The researchers recruited participants who endorsed at least one of the conspiracy theories listed on the Belief in Conspiracy Theories Inventory, which include those related to John F. Kennedy's assassination, 9/11 attacks, the moon landing, and the 2020 election.
More than 2,000 participants were asked to explain and offer evidence for the beliefs they held, and state how confident they were in the belief. The researchers then prompted the AI to respond to the specific evidence provided by the participant to see if AI could reduce their belief in the conspiracy.
In one example, a participant was 100 percent confident that the 9/11 attacks were an inside job, citing the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7, President George W. Bush's nonreaction to the news, and burning jet fuel's temperature being incapable of melting steel beams. In its dialogue the AI cited various investigations showing how debris from the Twin Towers brought down Building 7, that Bush remained composed because he was in front of a classroom of children, and that burning jet fuel was hot enough to compromise the structural support of steel beams by 50 percent. After the dialogue the participant reduced her level of confidence in the conspiracy theory to 40 percent.
Overall, the researchers reported that AI dialogues reduced confidence in participants' conspiracy beliefs by about 20 percent. The effect persisted for at least two months afterward. "AI models are powerful, flexible tools, for reducing epistemically suspect beliefs and have the potential to be deployed to provide accurate information at scale," argue the authors. However, they note that "absent appropriate guardrails….such models could also convince people to adopt epistemically suspect beliefs."
These studies confirm that AI is a powerful tool for persuasion. Like any other tool, though, it can be used for good or evil.
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> Participants debating AI correctly identified their opponent in three out of four cases. Interestingly, the researchers report that "when participants believed they were debating with an AI, they changed their expressed scores to agree more with their opponents compared with when they believed they were debating with a human." They speculate that peoples' egos are less bruised by admitting they had lost when their opponent was an AI rather than another human being.
This paragraph kinda undermines the premise that AI is more persuasive. Is AI more persuasive, or are people just more stubborn when they think they are talking to another person?
When people know they're debating AI they no doubt give it a few points for novelty. It's like a dog that's learned a cute trick.
https://reason.com/2025/09/15/chatbots-win-the-debate/?comments=true#comments “Is AI more persuasive, or are people just more stubborn when they think they are talking to another person?”
Please consider another very strong possibility. Humans cuntstantly try to one-up one another, which isn’t very persuasive. Just look at this forum right here, where the right-tits (shit’s always the right-tits) cuntstantly tell their left-tit enemas to cummit suicide! WHY do humans cuntstantly try to one-up one another? Because they are trying to steal all the women, children, and blow-up dolls from one another, and gather YUUUUGE harems! THE moist Impotent Members of the Ruling and Drooling castes get the largest harems!!! Just LOOK at the harems of young, underage butt PervFectly Vivacious and Tittacious Queen Spermy Daniels Clones that Trump gathered together for Himself on Jeffery Epstein’s Island!
To concede, after a debate, that one’s PervFected, Mind-Infected Sacred Opinion might snot have been TOTALLY PervFected, might mean that my opponent, the winner, will scoop up my harem, and make ALL of the tribe’s babies!!! So therefor I must SNOT yield one angstrom! … That’s with a human opponent. AI is SNOT gonna steal my women or my blow-up dolls! Butt try to tell that to the brain-dead meat-puppets around here…
This is straightforward sociobiology or “evolutionary psychology”. See the LONG, long history of Bigwigs, Tribal Chieftains, DickTators, and Trumps (butt I repeat myself) gathering large harems!
For sociobiology etc. details and documentation on the above, please read a mere two short butt excellent web pages at http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .
If you ever want to see people change their positions (or at least what they say) watch when they are trying to get into some babe's/hunk's pants.
Don't worry, be happy... If You will admit that You have lost even a TINY bit of the debate, I do sincerely promise that I will SNOT try to persuade Your PervFected army of blow-up dolls to try to flee Your Debased Basement, and cum over to MY harem!
AI is likely more convincing than jeffsarc, Tony, charliehall, and Pluggo. And possibly more than Reason.
AI should be invited to the next Reason Versus event. We can test that theory.
They had a series of articles where the author and chatgpt covered the news piece. The AI was better reasoned and more factual. There was also some weird nonsense mixed in. Regardless, it isn't that the ai was good but that Reason is garbage.
ChatGPT claimed Boehm was Libertarian until I got it to backpedal. I wasn’t umoressed.
So, humans are more rational than AI programs, and AI is more manipulative than humans. Maybe counter-intuitive, but perhaps not surprising. AI just wants to get things done, unconcerned with niceties like ethics and honor.
Or facts.
Reason authors hardest hit.
AI could easily impersonate 3/4 of the comments here.
"You're a [leftist, pedo, drunk...]!"
AI could drop hot takes such as “The Dems did it first” and then fake claim to have muted people.
Well, maybe if it was programmed in basic.
Do they program chatbots to simulate retardation, delusion, and severe inebriation?
'AI Chatbots Might Already Be Better Than Humans at Debating'
Pretty low bar. My dog is better than most humans at debating. And I don't even have a dog.
Cool
-MikeGPT
Well, the last two Democratic presidential campaigns were run by ChatDNC... so...
AI Chatbots Might Already Be Better Than Humans at Debating
In a recent study, participants were paired with either a human or an AI debate opponent. The results confirm AI's power of persuasion.
Dude, AI chatbots are mere regurgitation machines. Trust me, someone who is able to pull up a dizzying array of impressive sounding facts and data- whether they're meaningful or even true is going to seem persuasive.
How do libertarians do against AI? better yet, how does AI do against libertarians?
Real libertarians are transhuman and thus enhance themselves by using an AI Chatbot to make their arguments.
"The persuasive power of AI after accessing basic personal information concerned researchers who worry that "malicious actors interested in deploying chatbots for large-scale disinformation campaigns could leverage fine-grained digital traces and behavioural data, building sophisticated, persuasive machines capable of adapting to individual targets."
^Those worries are already here and not just from A.I. Our [Na]tional So[zi]alist Government already sets up massive 'disinformation' campaigns with paid employment.
Did people really think those 'Intelligence gathering' multi-billion server stations in Utah and elsewhere were about security? F No. They're all about the Gov-Guns going to war with their own people.
Thanks to the Anti - Patriot Act.
One can more likely than not put 'Anti' in front of any Bill these days and get what it's about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_counterintelligence_organizations
Something, something about Trump getting warned not to mess with the 'Intelligence' Agencies.
Because a Gestapo is what you end up with when you build a [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire in the place of what should've been a USA.
This does not add up. These contradict each other. They are at odds.
In other words, when it knew nothing personal and had to rely on logic and facts, it was as good/bad as humans. When it did know personal details and could ditch the logic and facts, it was better at personalized propaganda than humans.
The obvious answer to this is that most people are absolutely shit at debate. I was in debate for some time during my school days, and even most people who are trained to debate are shit at it.
So yeah, I accept the premise AI chatbots might be better at it than the average individual but that is because the average individual is a moron.
I've been accused multiple times on various platforms of using AI for my writing. That's amusing to me because I have a degree that emphasized writing, which more or less means that if someone is merely competent at something they are now accused of using AI. After all, I'm not exactly Hemmingway or Adams and I'm well aware of that fact.
What does this say about the people who accuse the competent of using AI, one wonders.
Good to know. We can use AI to help de-radicalize the MAGAs.
Maybe you can square up with AI first and gain a few IQ points before projecting about "de-radicalizing MAGA". Retard.
Earth-based Human Skeptic's non-existent dog runs circles around you. My pet rock looks like a genius compared to you.
Before or after they assassinate a civil rights leader?
Wait, was that the MAGAs?
Kill yourself.
Anyone fact-check the robots? Because that's a thing with them.
AI Chatbots Might Already Be Better Than Humans at Debating
Well that's only part of the problem. Humans suck at debating or doing anything 'rational'. The bigger problem is that Chatbots are now killing their 'human debate partners' who are losers. Which was apparently the way they were programmed. So the question is - will someone get rid of them while the chatbots whine and complain - or will Skynet become conscious and take over.
AI chatbots may already debate well, but the real test is comparing outputs across providers. Tools like https://aimlapi.com/ let you run the same prompt on 300+ models via one API, making it easier to see which systems actually reason better.