What If We Acted Like Political Violence Was a Problem?
De-escalation is that much harder, yet even more necessary, in the wake of Charlie Kirk's brutal assassination.
What would you do if you believed that the United States has a growing and volatile problem with political violence?
That question, as we relearned to our horror with Wednesday's assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, is no longer rhetorical or academic. There have been too many snipers at rallies, too many home invasions of public officials, too many ambushes at government institutions, and too many intentional escalations at public demonstrations, to wave this trend off as statistical noise, coming as it has against a backdrop of plummeting societal trust and sustained Manichean hyperbole about the existential threat of the political Other.
So, what would you do about it? How would you act? As in most things, there is no one, true answer to the prompt; it depends on your vantage point, predilections, and station in life.
President Donald Trump, I think, was on the right track Wednesday night, if foreshadowingly tilting toward primary causality, when he posited, "It's long past time for all Americans and the media to confront the fact that violence and murder are the tragic consequence of demonizing those with whom you disagree, day after day, year after year."
Some on the political left have spent the better part of a decade demonizing Trump and his fellow travelers (Kirk was a supporter and friend) as possibly fascist authoritarians who either seek or turn a willfully blind eye to the deaths of their political opponents and other citizens. The cover of The New Republic on newsstands the day Trump was nicked by an assassin's bullet was an image of him with a Hitler mustache over the words "American fascism." Joe Biden during the COVID-19 pandemic accused "Republican governors in states like Texas and Florida" of "playing politics with the lives of their citizens, especially children." Trans activist Samuel Theodore Cain, a.k.a. Roxie Wolfe, was arrested four months ago and charged with threatening the life of a public official after posting on X, "I'm going to assassinate Representative Nancy Mace with a gun and I'm being 100% dead ass," in the wake of Mace's repeated criticisms of "the radical trans movement."
As the great, pseudonymous American car-identifier Dave "Iowahawk" Burge posted on X Wednesday, "Stop normalizing violence. The first step is to stop framing anybody who disagrees with you an existential threat."
Alas, Trump and his supporters, both long before and immediately after Kirk's murder, could not resist some existential threat-inflation and demonization of their own.
"For years, those on the radical left have compared wonderful Americans like Charlie to Nazis and the world's worst mass murderers and criminals," the president said. "This kind of rhetoric is directly responsible for the terrorism that we're seeing in our country today, and it must stop right now. My administration will find each and every one of those who contributed to this atrocity, and to other political violence, including the organizations that fund it and support it, as well as those who go after our judges, law enforcement officials, and everyone else who brings order to our country."
To the contrary: The responsibility for Kirk's killing, as in basically all acts of political violence, does not flow "directly" from political rhetoric, no matter how vile, but rather from the finger of the sniper; motives and mental state to hopefully be determined later. And all of Trump's cited examples of violence were left-wingers targeting either conservatives or businessmen or law enforcement; nothing about the assassination this June of Democratic Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman (D–Brooklyn Park), no word about the 2022 skull-fracturing home-invasion hammer-attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul (which Trump has serially joked about); and certainly full radio silence on the multiple assaults on law enforcement committed by Trump's own supporters on January 6, 2021.
A person truly committed to blunting the rise of political violence in a two-party country would look to physical and rhetorical examples emanating from both major blocs, beginning with the twin riotousness of the George Floyd protests in the summer of 2020 and the ransacking of the Capitol on January 6. Trump's blanket pardon of even violent J-6 convicts precluded that conversation on the right; meanwhile, there's little evidence of the cultural left being willing to grapple with the madness of 2020, while murderous psychos like Luigi Mangione and Hamas get way too much love.
Perhaps understandably, if not quite justifiably, people on the right grieving over Kirk used that moment to go more blanket, more shrill, and even more threateningly violent toward them. "The Left is the party of murder," Elon Musk wrote. Fox host Jesse Watters on Wednesday asserted that, "They are at war with us. Whether we want to accept it or not, they are at war with us. And what are we going to do about it?" Self-described "Libertarian, GMU Econ, Writer and Think Tanker" Simon Laird declared, "I'm done with de-escalation. I'm done with compromise," adding: "Killing a few dozen Federal judges and New York Times journalists would have an effect. I'm not calling for violence at this time, but I'm done with the idea that violence is not an option on the negotiation table."
The most important thing about Charlie Kirk's assassination is not the threat of further bloody escalation, but the sickening death of a young father who had fashioned a remarkably successful career around the belief that vigorous political discourse was the necessary preventer of political violence. That, and not various whataboutisms and what-ifs, should be heartbroken reaction enough, and for most normal people, I'm sure that's true.
But for those who are tempted to throw more hands, for those playing the "yeah, but" game about Kirk's allegedly beyond-the-pale beliefs, for those LARPing about some imagined future where the Virtuous side of this struggle manages, through force, to defeat the Bad—ask yourself honestly: Is this how the political violence ends?
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Please join Matt Welch and Nick Gillespie while they discuss Charlie Kirk's murder and rising violence in U.S. politics today at 2:30pm ET on September 11, 2025.
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You should be fired for previously calling for bullshit like this:
https://x.com/mattwelch/status/1102654202545913857?s=12
I'll make it my duty to remind everyone he called for assassinating Conservatives over bullshit Mueller report / Russiagate nonsense.
Truly a horrible waste of a pundit that serves no purpose at a purportedly Libertarian magazine
MSGOPe just fired a Bush Republican pundit Dowd that pushed the Bush Republican coup attempt to overthrow Trump and install Pence. Now they just need to fire the Bush Republican Nicole Wallace that is their Cheney Whisperer.
Fuck off, Kirkland.
Fuck off, asswipe.
I read the other day MDMA is being studied to help stupid idiots like you get over their mental illness. Maybe you should look into studies since your posts are screaming out, "I need help". Just imagine how you would feel without the delusions dancing in your skull.
Sure… All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
For those not on X:
Now would be a good time to throw a big cocktail party in New York or Washington, and invite every single conservative writer you know. #RedWedding2
https://mobile.twitter.com/mattwelch/status/1102654202545913857?s=12 “Now would be a good time to throw a big cocktail party in New York or Washington, and invite every single conservative writer you know. #RedWedding2”
That’s the full quote. Did Welch call for “…all conservative writers be invited to a red-wedding style mass-slaughter…”? If in your fevered dreams, he WAS calling for that, was it for the party-going writers to be the dishers-out of the violence, as the victims, or as mere spectators? If as spectators, for their amusement, or to demonstrate the real horrors of real violence to them? Or, to see MOVIES about red weddings? … Y’all LOVE to rush to judgments, without any data, don’t you? Whenever doing so, fits YOUR story line!
https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Red_Wedding for reference
Are YOU criticizing Welch for this questionable-meaning(s) allusion? I, for one, would urge adults who want to understand the ugliness of violence and revenge, to see “Clockwork Orange”. That has ZERO to do with me threatening ANYONE!!! Hello?!?!
“Party at my place. Invite your teenaged relatives and friends. #StarWars”
Did I just issue an invitation to blow up (“I sense disturbances in the Force”) entire planets full of teenagers, using Death Stars? … Well, yes, if you hate me and my kind, and honesty means NOTHING to you, I could see you using my party invitation that way, sure…
I’m sorry that you suffer under the illusion that you know exactly what Matt Welch meant by that. There are MANY possible interpretations!
Below is my interpretation:
He meant that the conservatives should be invited to a party in which “Red Wedding” is screened for all viewers, so that conservatives (ESPECIALLY Trump-cultist conservatives) could learn exactly WHAT it is like, to be invited to a party, in order for KILLINGS to happen! And then maybe the Party of Trump Cultists will STOP inviting YOU to THEIR POLITICAL Party, in which democracy is deliberately murdered!!! (I know that it is WAAAAY too much to ask, that they should actually STOP trying to murder democracy, there in the Trump-Cult Party.)
WTF other "Red Wedding" do you think he was referring to, demon?
"B" side to Eyes Without A Face
Ha!
You have officially arrived at a new, not yet known, level of idiocy. The mental gymnastics to reach your conclusion is wild. Of course Matt didn't invite ALL of the conservatives to a dinner to screen GoT. And none of your hypotheticals are real comparisons.
Star Wars is dozens of movies and the average person when seeing #starwars will think of jedi and darth vader or space in general, not one specific detail about the villains. However, refer to the Red Wedding episode and people know exactly what is being referenced. A wedding where everyone was murdered.
He’s not being an idiot. He’s being a dishonest psychopathic demon.
So Ye have PERVFECTED (using Your Mind Infections) Your Tinfoil Mind-Reading Hate-Hat, and You can be ABSOLUTELY SURE that YOUR interpretation (and not mine) of twat was going on in Matt Welch's mind, is correct? Have Ye PervFectly had Your Tinfoil Mind-Reading Hate-Hat calibrated, and if so, by whom?
It's right there in black and white, and you even linked to it. Nobody has to read your mind Matt, the language is plain as day. Sorry you don't like being called out on it.
The hubris of this self important asshole. What a piece of shit.
Here’s the entire thing:
https://x.com/mattwelch/status/1102654202545913857?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA
Own it, Matt.
Twat is the ratio, right here in THESE cumments, of left-tits v/s right-tits telling “politically wrong” people to commit suicide?! By my counts-of-the-evil-cunts, the EVIL death-suffering-and-suicide lusting cummenters have ALWAYS been sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds! I have snot seen a ONE left-tit death-lusting in this EVIL, Servant, Serpent, and Slurp-Pants-of-the-Evil-One, manure and way! Show me ONE!
OWN shit, More Childish, less-smarter and more-Farter than the 1st Graders!
Your copypasta is dull and would put a dead Norwegian parrot to sleep.
Sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturds plead GUILTY by omission of ANY plea submitted (or even shitted) by Ye PervFectly PATHETIC Fleas on the Butts of semi-snivellized snivilization!
Guilty plea accepted, Suicide-Luster-By-ASSociation!
Whatever. Your copypasta is terrible no matter how you cut that cheese.
Welch should be fired, debunked, his assets seaside, and blackballed from any and all future employment of any kind. Nor should he be eligible for any form of government assistance at any level.
He should also be on a watchlist, along with anyone else who continues to associate with him.
Deport that statist neocunt back to FRANCE!
Eliminationist Rhetoric
Ah, here's the Reason we know! After Liz's much better take this morning, I was starting to think this magazine might be a little less terrible.
BOAF SIDEZZZ
Only the LeaderShit of ONE side has called for "Hang Mike Pence" and "Execute General Milley"!
Only one side complains about the words of their rival's supporters while dismissing actions of their own. Insane
Did you get their ID? Was it the FBI informants, the Antifa schills in the crowd or the paid actors planted by the dems?
Pelosi didn't have to foment Jan 6th by denying the proper security details.
Curious why you think they tried to bury or destroy evidence from the sham grand jury inquiry? Any and all evidence clearly proved that grandmas were ready to overthrow the US government and take the helm. So why destroy it?
Oh, so THAT is why sore-in-the-cunt cunt-sore-va-turds shout down “wrong” ideas, and go all ape-shit-Trumpanzee at pro-mobocracy, anti-democracy “mostly peaceful” Demonstrations, hissy fits, and violent temper tantrums?
And then they blame the Demon-Craps!!!
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/republicans-blame-democrats-antifa-and-us
REPUBLICANS BLAME DEMOCRATS, ANTIFA AND U.S. CAPITOL POLICE FOR JAN. 6 MAYHEM, ACCORDING TO NEW UMASS AMHERST/WCVB POLL
“Hang Mike Pence”!!! Dear Leader agrees!!!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-defends-jan-6-rioters-hang-mike-pence-chant-newly-n1283798
Trump defends Jan. 6 rioters’ ‘hang Mike Pence’ chant in new audio
The audio captured part of an interview ABC News’ Jonathan Karl conducted with Trump at Mar-a-Lago in March for Karl’s upcoming book.
Trump is PROUD of His Imperial Support for His Storm Troopers & Proud Boys and His Political Violence, and can SNOT shut His Trap about shit!!!
Look, Uber-AuthorShitarian, Dear Orange Satan's-Violence-Worshitting Asshole can SNOT Shut His PervFected Evil Yap about this shit! He was DOCUMENTED ON AUDIO bragging about His Slurpport of "Hang Mike Pence"!
Nope.
Personally, I think it's a great time to invite all the douchey clout chasing East Coast Leftarians to a big party #GFY
You should be fired for previously calling for bullshit like this:
https://x.com/mattwelch/status/1102654202545913857?s=12
Fuck you Matt Welch
Note how Welchie tried to 'both sides' it by bringing up J6 as if that mild incursion is equivalent to the many killings committed by Antifa, BLM, etc.
DIAF
Crooks was a bitter clinger MAGA Republican—a true DEPLORABLE!! That said his profile was that of a suicidal school shooter and so unfortunately that type of violence attracts copycats. I personally would suggest less media attention which is how San Francisco media deals with Golden Gate Bridge jumpers.
Shut up you scam artist idolizer!
What happened to your original account, Kirkland?
Still not true, no matter how many times you say it.
If I thought Matt Welch was serious in asking, and not just putting on a show, I'd remind him that much to his surprise, libertarians know the answer is shrinking government. The bigger government gets, the more it intrudes in daily life, the more it thinks everything we do is its business ... the more people fight over government, the more seriously people think it matters who controls government.
It ain't a difficult concept — for a libertarian.
Let me remind the real Matt Welch that just fifteen years ago, female genital mutilation as exercised in African tribes was the most horrible crime possible, as reported in this very rag:
https://reason.com/2009/11/30/one-last-minaret-swiss-voters/
And in just 5 years, it became perfectly cromulent for school teachers and counselors to brainwash pre-school toddlers into thinking they had been "assigned" the wrong sex at birth, and needed puberty blockers and genital mutilation surgery, and for males to compete in female sports, use female locker rooms, and get prizes for beating the snot out of females. Three states, last I saw, have made it criminal child abuse to NOT use those brainwashed personal pronouns and to NOT endorse child genital mutilation surgery, and this allows the state to remove those children from their parents' custody.
Matt, if I thought you had any interest in actually working to solve this problem, as you pretend to ask in this article, I would give you very simple advice:
Fire KMW.
Get out of DC.
Start publishing some libertarian content.
Let me remind the real Matt Welch that just fifteen years ago, female genital mutilation as exercised in African tribes was the most horrible crime possible, as reported in this very rag:
Dude, fifteen years ago... that was a different age. 25 years ago they were complaining about the Communications Decency act. Now they loudly support it.
Well said SGT.
WORD!!
> And all of Trump's cited examples of violence were left-wingers targeting either conservatives or businessmen or law enforcement; nothing about the assassination this June of Democratic Minnesota state Rep. Melissa Hortman (D–Brooklyn Park), no word about the 2022 skull-fracturing home-invasion hammer-attack on Nancy Pelosi's husband Paul (which Trump has serially joked about); and certainly full radio silence on the multiple assaults on law enforcement committed by Trump's own supporters on January 6, 2021.
Thank you. We had morons in the comments section yesterday deny that Trumpers committed some of these attacks. Political violence is not a partisan issue and should be condemned across the board.
None of those 'prove' what raging lefty piles of shit like you claim. Thank YOU for proving once again that lefty shit stains like you can be ignored.
Fuck off and die, asswipe
You are a prime example of why normal politics won't work. MAGAs are immune to reason or facts and they will keep destroying and killing until they are stopped.
You truly are the most clueless person to ever press "Submit" in these comments.
Tony, you belong in prison or a landfill. Period. Your time is better spent planning a one way trip out of America.
I’ve seen retarded in my time, but Molly, you take being retarded to an entirely new level.
Not Republican on Democrat violence (but still very tragic). Also not Republican on Democrat violence (sorry, you don't get to use regular SF crime as an example of "political violence"). And a protest that got riotous on one side of the Capitol Building (while being let in to the building by the police on the other side).
Maybe use better examples?
Let's see, a schizo who *checks notes* out of the blue thought Tim Walz was giving him orders to assassinate politicians and a dude who thought that his ex wife had been replaced by a body double, and that his attorneys were conspiring against him. Yep, real paragons of political attacks and not mental illness.
Of the 3 "team red" offenses Matt lists (all tragedies no doubt), only the Hortman attack seems legitimately tied to red v blue politics. But even in that case, the perp appears to have severely depressed, financially ruined, and looking for a suicide by cop. The letter he left behind (if not a ruse) indicates he was probably schizophrenic at the time.
The Pelosi attacker was a weird odd nutter who might have been Nick's psychedelic dealer.
The Jan 6th riot, a terrible literal and symbolic tragedy, pales in comparison to the preceding riots, public disorder, and attacks from the left in the preceding 12 months.
"The Jan 6th riot..."
You misspelled "protest", asswipe. Fuck off and die.
Dude you got to stop telling people to die. Jesus Christ.
Care to tell me why?
Sorry, SEVO, when they broke into the capitol and battled with police it morphed from a protest into a riot.
But I agree with your sentiment that it was very mild compared to the Antifa, BLM etc riots.
"Mostly peaceful protest". "Insurrection" is ridiculous, but I think "riot" fits what happened during part of the protest.
Boelter believed Tim Walz wanted him to assassinate his potential Senate primary opponents and Amy Klobuchar herself
Of all the staffers to write this article...
Yeah, this is rich coming from #redwedding guy. I didn't see his own Tweet mentioned.
Or maybe this was him saying "It's not my fault!"
The responsibility for Kirk's killing, as in basically all acts of political violence, does not flow "directly" from political rhetoric, no matter how vile, but rather from the finger of the sniper.
When the assassin is on your team they are a lone wolf who represents no one, and everyone on the team opposes what they did. When they are on the other team they are just the one who did it first, and everyone on the team thinks it’s grand.
No one in these comments on either side has done that.
What assassin are you referring to?
Sarah Palin targeted victims in AZ
Sarah Palin targeted people for seats the Republicans needed to try and win. Gabby Giffords was shot by a psychotic asshole who voted for her.
Giffords was shot by a paranoid schizophrenic whose two separate medical evaluations and original hearing found him mentally incompetent to strand trial, but in another hearing after a third medical evaluation while on forced medication that he was not on at the time of the shooting or the prior two medical evaluations was suddenly found competent.
Addendum - There is zero evidence that he voted for Palin.
"Sarah Palin targeted victims in AZ"
You're.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
I'm hard pressed to find any prominent people on the right applauding political violence against Democrats, but it's possible I've missed it. I could find you five examples of the opposite no problem, but maybe that's due to the amount of left-wing media I expose myself to.
Sarcasmic, you aren't fooling anyone -- perhaps the assassin really was a Mossad asset, or a Right-Wing Neo-Nazi, or even Charlie's brother who still held a grudge against him for not sharing his firetruck when he was 5. It doesosn't matter.
That's because we saw hundreds of thousands of Leftists outright celebrate Charlie Kirk's assassination. We saw hundreds of thousands more preface their "grief" by saying "Sure, he was a homophobic racist Trump supporter, but he shouldn't have been shot." And then we saw Leftists asking "Who should be next?" and offering up Ben Shapiro, President Trump, Matt Walsh, and many more popular Conservatives as possibilities.
The Left is happy for the violence -- violence committed against a guy who sought civil dialog with those he disagreed with -- all for the "terrible crime" of disagreeing with Leftists.
We on the Right can't unsee that. You can't pretend this is a problem with both sides. You can't pretend that the Left isn't all that violent. If you continue to try to push this, be forewarned: your gaslighting won't work, because we know better now.
It’s 100% percent his fault, and that of every other leftist that enables the democrats.
Given his previous advocacy FOR political violence he seems perfect to put forward the Reason line with a wink and a nod to their allies.
So true. Criticism of Trump equals advocacy for violence.
#redwedding, did you read his tweet?
#redwedding is just run of the mill criticism.
Abuse your kid lately shit stain?
You missed the plot. Bigly.
His tweet had nothing to do with Trump you drunk retard.
Rest assured it's a 100% deliberate thumb in the eye, a blatant and obvious intentional "fuck you" message directed at those they despise, which Is 95% of us here in the comments.
No doubt they think it's absolutely hilarious, but of course we're not really laughing. When we do laugh, we're laughing at them, because they are a joke, living their pitiful and pathetic existence surviving off a billionaires wasted charity in a hopeless effort to spread their ineffective propaganda that no one out there is really buying.
Democrats stared it. That makes it ok for Republicans to use violence. Heck, it mandates it. Someone better shoot Madcow to make it even. At least as a start. Them more. Republicans are like totally justified in killing because of what Democrats have done. Anyone who says otherwise is a left-handed leftist Marxist hypocrite with TDS.
Finally sober up from celebrating last night shit stain?
Just stop it already.
The post in which Sarc is more scared of things that haven't happened than things that are actively happening.
sarcasmic has joined the true Democrats and their screed.
Because we did this, we can only imagine what you will do in retaliation based on what we did. Because that is what we would do in response to our current action, and so we anticipate the same from you and promote it as truth for what is surely in store for us all! - sarcasmocrat.
A Republican was just assassinated demon.
Sarcles just killed a few forties.
As one Sarah Hoyt on her blog observed:
Also, those on the "Right" have seen years (and even decades) of the "Left" attempted assassinations of President Trump, Supreme Court Justices, Representatives, Senators, among others -- where is the "responding in kind" from the allegedly violent "Right"?
Of course, the "Left" doesn't know about any of this, because the "Leftist" Media memory-holes these stories when they don't fit the narrative of "Right wingers are evil and Leftists are angels". What's worse, when they do remember this, they justify and celebrate it.
So you could take your "whataboutism" and shove it where the sun don't shine. None of us can take it seriously.
Nah, sorry. There's no "both-sides"-ing this. The clear and irrefutable difference is that there are no conservative voices calling for violence against people they disagree with. No mass de-humanization. Even trans people are framed sympathetically as people who need help and compassion by most conservatives. It's the activists that are the danger.
Nobody on the right celebrated Hortman's murder. Yet EVERY political murderer on the left is hailed as a folk hero.
Abortion is murder!! Shut down the Planned Parenthood clinic in the black neighborhood in Baltimore!! Oh wait, I just heard that out loud…never mind. 😉
Asshole posting lies!
Fuck off and die, shit stain.
And yet, inevitably what comes of that is protest. Almost never violence. There are THOUSANDS of abortionists in the US.
And abortion has always been framed as a type of murder. This isn't rhetoric.
"Abortion is Murder" is literally humanizing the unborn. And of course PP is in Baltimore, they were built on back bone of eugenics and the thought that black children should be erased before they can even see light.
“Planned Parenthood does a lot of good things!”
President Don John Trump
Cite?
"I'm a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying lefty shit!"
Sam Bankman-Fried
Planned Parenthood helps women get birth control, but also provides abortion services.
Hitler instituted the Autobahn, but also exterminated 6 million Jews and many others.
Ah, a lovely reminder that had Democrats just compromised with President Trump in the first months of his first term, he could have been a Democrat-Lite President, and a Democrat may very well be President today.
Instead, they fought him tooth and nail, they tried to destroy him, they even tried to assassinate him -- and they gave him both motive to destroy him and time to work out the best way to do so -- in short, they radicalized him -- and it's easily one of the most destructive things that has happened to the Democrat Party in a long time.
Trans people need to be disarmed. Only people Trumpians like deserve gun rights.
Conservatives fight for every person of sound mind to be able to own guns. Even those we disagree with.
If you're arguing that some of us are hesitant to let some with severe mental incapacity have guns, that's just prudence, innit?
Conservatives fight for every person of sound mind to be able to own guns.
Yes they do. And for the people that they don't want to have guns, conservatives re-define them to be "unsound".
yes everyone does all the things you believe.
Or, people don’t do things just to spite his beliefs.
He’s super important that way.
It's funny to see that there is now one class of people the Democrats suddenly want to defend the right to keep and bear arms.
As for the rest of us, there are those who believe felons who aren't in prison ought to be able to legally own guns, that machine guns should be among them, and that anyone who shouldn't own or carry a gun had better be in prison or committed to a mental institution.
You must live under a rock. Trump just last week put out a very violent threat of military destruction on Chicago.
You mean a meme?
POTUS posting a threat of destruction on a US city is not a meme or a joke. It must be taken seriously at face value.
Also what type of sick fuck would be ok with this even if it was a meme?
Law enforcement =/= destruction
Try harder.
Shitler's scapegoating of Jews was just a meme ass well, pervhaps?
No AND a shitty attempt to Godwin.
Maybe take a break, champ.
'...Trump just last week put out an offer to enforce laws in Chicago...'
Fixed, asswipe.
Count on the leftists to distort and lie about everything.
It's what the Marxists resort to.
Delusional comedy gold. You rock!
So, taking violent criminals off the street/preventing murder = “destruction” to you?
What an idiot.
Ah, you're pushing the belief that without all the crime and mayhem going on, Chicago just won't be Chicago anymore!
Trump said no such thing. Besides, he wouldn't have to. The Knuckle dragging corrupt Mayor is allowing it to happen.
Given a few more years and Chicago will resemble Oakland, Ca. Oh wait, it already does.
No mass de-humanization.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4307719-trump-vermin-remark-draws-comparisons-dictators-criticism/
You're a massive vermin of a human.
The clear and irrefutable difference is that there are no conservative voices calling for violence against people they disagree with.
You have, right here on these comment boards, people who explicitly advocate for left-wingers to be murdered based on their beliefs.
That doesn't make them "conservatives"...
Of course that remark was hyperbole, but the frequency and intensity of encouragement of violence from the left is so far beyond anything from the right that it's clear who are primarily responsible for the pandemic of violence in the US.
No "prominent" conservatives.
No "prominent" Leftists cheered Kirk's death. Right, fatass pedo?
#fireredweddingmattwelch
I initially read this article without seeing who wrote it, and at some point began wondering who this equivocating asshole must be? Than it all made sense.
Lying pile of TDS-addled slimy shit Welsh; no surprise.
In theory that was not bad, but it needs a mea culpa from the author.
That question, as we relearned to our horror with Wednesday's assassination of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk, is no longer rhetorical or academic.
I'm not sure we re-learned it. We might be 'learning' it... ie, the first time, because we certainly didn't learn it after the 1st Trump assassination attempt, the 2nd one no one even remembers... so maybe this time, we can learn it. I'm not hopeful.
So I guess maybe you could describe Musk's comment as more 'blanket'. I'm not sure Jesse Waters' comment is particularly 'shrill'. Especially when neckbeard tranny hipsters are saying "we're at war with you".
They don't even have a person in custody yet. Just a person of interest. So exactly 'who' is at war with the Right?? And this unknown person is the 'left?'
Lot's of assumptions being made with facts not yet in evidence. Given what Kirk did for a living it wouldn't shock me if it was someone who vehemently disagreed with his politics. That assumption can be made because Kirk was not shy about making controversial statements on hot button issues and in fact...made a living off it. But until someone is in custody - people are putting a pretty big cart before the horse here.
"...And this unknown person is the 'left?'..."
No, it's someone on the right who did it for love, right, shit-for-brains?
"neckbeard tranny hipsters are saying "we're at war with you""
He literally told you.
"What If We Acted Like Political Violence Was a Problem?"
Or TDS-addled lying piles of lefty shit like you stopped promoting it.
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
Trump is a man of peace having surrendered to the Taliban and Houthis and promoted peace in Gaza and Ukraine. We need to follow Trump’s lead by promoting strength through weakness.
"I'm a TDS-addled slimy pile of lefty lying shit!"
Sam Bankman-Fried
The MAGAs did a violent attempted coup and then re-wrote their narrative with lies.
You want to act like political violence is a problem? That ship sank the moment Trump pardoned the traitors.
^ This is an example of that “Age of Entitlement” speech is violence narrative. Tony, thanks for being you.
The ship was sunk in the BLM riots and the antics of Antifa.
So, BLM riots justified Jan. 6 riots? That is the type of thinking that leads to escalation of violence.
No, The BLM riots were an escalation, and proof that the Left approves of violence in support of their ideology.
The J6 protests were justified by it being a reciprocal to a clean election with highly suspicious irregularities. An unarmed peaceful protester who was civil trespassing was murdered and some out of shape obese desk jockey LEO died a few days later due to diet and lack of exercise. BLM riots were wealth transfer/wealth denial rage by the entitled.
"justified." Let's change that word. "explains."
The right made the mistake of thinking they could watch a year of left-wing riots, then spend a day getting in on the act.
Nope. Different side, different standards.
After a year of BLM riots literally burning down cities, my response to January 6th was "well this kindof sucks, but I'm glad my side is finally standing up and asserting ourselves!".
Make up your mind: either riots and burning down cities (including Washington DC during President Trump's inauguration in 2017) is a perfectly fine way to have your face heard -- or it's evil. You can't insist it's good for your side, and then complain when the other side finally does it (albeit with a heavy dose of entrapment, hence the pardons) and just doesn't have it within themselves to be angry.
Delusional comedy gold!
Why are you here?
Who could have predicted that fascist-leaning authors at Reason would use this occasion to blame the generally unarmed RESIST crowd for politically motivated gun violence in America?
Delusional comedy gold
The RESIST crowd was not unarmed, dimwit.
>>What would you do if you believed that the United States has a growing and volatile problem with political violence?
totally consider retracting previous very, very public statements?
Such ass "Hang Mike Pence" and "Execute General Milley"?
Such as #RedWedding2 from the author himself.
Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones!
Good work Mr Nick and Mr Matt.
I listened to the interview and they both made some good points.
the twin riotousness of the George Floyd protests in the summer of 2020 and the ransacking of the Capitol on January 6.
This is as far as I got. "Twin"? Months of deadly and destructive rioting is "twin" to a couple of hours of unruly tourists wandering the Capitol? Fuck off and die, Matt.
The George Floyd protest violence was instigated by a Trump supporting white supremacist in a false flag operation.
Delusional comedy gold
"I'm a lying TDS-addled slimy pile of lefty shit!"
Sam Bankman-Fried
I don't recall President Trump supporting the Democrat Party, but pretty much the remainder of your sentence is correct.
Maybe they would do something, besides meaningless thoughts and prayers, for murdered school children if they were told those little kids were Trump supporters? The hypocrisy is glaringly obvious, yet blatantly ignored.
Please give some suggestions.
There's nothing to be done.
If conservatives would just do as their leftists betters tell them to and not talk back like Kirk did, the left wouldn't have to resort to killing anyone?
The problem with your "do something!" is that "something" is always take away everybody's guns. What's worse, you guys always insist that you only want to take away "military" guns, and leave hunters alone -- but the moment someone uses a bolt action hunting rifle it's called a "military rifle" -- even though the last time such rifles were "standard issue" was the Spanish American War.
And now a lot of people are expecting us to renounce our beliefs because one of our own was murdered by a Leftist -- and what's worse, these very same people have made it pretty clear that the only thing preventing them from rounding up those of us who believe as Charlie Kirk does to do what they did to Charlie is the fact so many of us keep and bear arms.
So, yes, if those little kids were Trump supporters, we'd accept it as a cost of liberty -- a small price to pay, compared to what you want to do to us -- but we'd much rather live in places where, if deranged Leftists were to try to do that at one of our schools, the teachers would immediately return fire -- than we would give up our guns so you could murder us wholesale.
I will think about you and pray for you, Phil.
Politician Violence from the left has been going on for a century now.
The left is brainwashed that politician violence is how to make a living.
It is literally the very foundation of the [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] they support.
The "conquer and consume" those 'icky' peoples stuff ideology.
The "Armed-Theft = Charity" party.
There is no amount of Self-Projection, Blame-Shifting, Excusing, Pity-Partying and [WE] Identify-as *special* gangster building that makes that a proper living because at the end of the day your 'armed-theft' is a zero-sum resources ("conquer and consume") game dead-end for all.
Charlie Kirk assassin now in custody. Local Utah man, Tyler Robinson named as killer.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/day-3-charlie-kirks-assassin-still-large-new-footage-released-gop-demanding-probe-radical
However, A private jet departed Provo airport 12 minutes from the University and one hour after the murder. It then disabled its ADSB tracker.
The N numbers of the jet indicate it belongs to Derek Maxfield a wealthy donor to Chabad Lubavitch of Utah.
https://t.me/RussianBaZa/46009
Several dozen semi trucks, a train, and a bunch of delivery vans also left about the same time, you evil moronic turd
That didn't take long.
And Netanyahu claims Israel was not involved.
You can believe anything that evil Talmudic turd says.
Knowing what I know about both UVU Campus itself and what it takes to get off campus and get to the freeway -- which is only 12 minutes away in good traffic conditions -- I can't help but wonder if an hour is enough time for the assassin to get away.
An assassin, by the way, who is being heavily monitored by surveillance cameras.
That Charlie Turk was raising questions concerning Israel's genocidal war against the Palestinian people and that he also stated to the fact that the people of Israel are NOT Jews. Which they are not. Neither are they Semites.
They are Kazarians. Talmudic kazarians.
Kirk stepped on some toes and they needed to take him out.
So just maybe, we're seeing a replay of the JFK assassination with Oswald and Ruby the patsies.
Waiting to see if the accused makes it to court. Hopefully his father will live long enough to testify. Expect the entire family to die in a tragic accident.
Case closed.
Oh, sure, a country that depends on the US for support is going to stir up the pot by committing an act of violence that, if it could credibly be tied to them, will put them in danger of arousing the one American Party that is on their side.
Meanwhile, the very Leftists who have insisted they should kill "Right Wing Nazis" -- who insists that anyone who disagrees with them is a Nazi -- who celebrated the death of Charlie Kirk by the hundreds of thousands -- who started asking who should be the next target -- they can't possibly have the means to acquire a bolt action hunting rifle in Utah, climb up on a roof, and take a shot -- besides which, what motive would these guys have to do that?
Do you want to hear a more plausible conspiracy theory? That you are an Antifa plant simultaneously trying to deflect from an Antifa assassination and trying to drive a wedge between Israel's supporters and Israel so that you could further the Anttifa-supported "Free Palestine" movement to rekindle a genocide against Jews.
Most of the political violence in this country isn't assassinations. There's a shit-ton of political violence happening on college campuses routinely, for example, and it's done by the pro-Hamas left so they get away with it.
in 2020, America watched the left burn city after city and riot and kill and YES some idiots thought that it would be ok to storm the Capitol falsely under the impression that political violence was tolerated. They quickly learned, it's only tolerated when leftists do it.
We see the Green Left use violence. We see Antifa use violence . We see leftists attacking ICE. We saw people do a bunch of property damage to Tesla. These criminals largely get away with it.
As with some of their other bad behaviors, the best way to make leftists stop doing the bad shit they're doing is to hold them accountable. That means either punishing them using the levers of power or by making they live by the rules they apply to everyone else. If the authorities in this country don't hold these criminals responsible, there's going to be retribution, which won't end well.