She Wrote a Bad Check 17 Years Ago and Still Can't Own Guns. This Trump Order Could Help People Like Her.
The Justice Department has proposed a pathway to restore gun rights for millions of Americans.

Melynda Vincent, a Utah social worker specializing in drug harm reduction, was convicted of bank fraud in 2008 because she paid for groceries with a bad check. Seventeen years later, Vincent is still not allowed to own a gun or even temporarily possess one.
A new Justice Department program aims to help people like Vincent by reviving a moribund relief process for Americans who have lost their gun rights due to criminal convictions. That is good news for Second Amendment advocates, because it promises to ameliorate the impact of an illogical, constitutionally dubious law that deprives people of the right to armed self-defense even when they pose no plausible threat to public safety. It is also good news for criminal justice reformers, because it addresses a lifelong penalty that irrationally punishes nonviolent offenders long after they have served their formal sentences.
Under 18 USC 922(g)(1), which Congress enacted in 1968 as part of the Gun Control Act, it is a felony to receive or possess a firearm if you have been convicted of a crime punishable by more than a year of incarceration. It doesn't matter if it was a violent crime, how long ago it was committed, or what sentence was actually imposed.
Several federal appeals courts have said that disability may be unconstitutional as applied to specific nonviolent offenders. But until recently, the only recourse for people who could not afford such litigation was a federal or state pardon—an iffy prospect.
Another provision of the Gun Control Act, 18 USC 925(c), was supposed to offer an alternative. It authorizes the attorney general to restore gun rights when "the circumstances regarding the disability, and the applicant's record and reputation, are such that the applicant will not be likely to act in a manner dangerous to public safety," provided "the granting of the relief would not be contrary to the public interest."
That power historically has been delegated to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). But a congressional spending rider originally enacted in 1992 barred the ATF from using any part of its budget to consider applications under Section 925(c).
Attorney General Pam Bondi, who says she is acting in response to President Donald Trump's February 7 executive order "Protecting Second Amendment Rights," thinks she has found a way around that restriction. In an interim final rule that took effect in March, she rescinded the ATF's authority over Section 925(c) applications, which she says will now be handled by the Office of the Pardon Attorney. The Justice Department's FY 2026 budget proposal included funds for a Firearm Rights Restoration Initiative within that office.
Democratic critics of Bondi's initiative, including legislators who ordinarily worry about disproportionate criminal penalties and the lifelong ancillary consequences of conviction records, complain that she wants to "help violent criminals regain firearms." In a June 18 letter to Bondi, six Democratic lawmakers said she is flouting the will of Congress, which "intended that those most likely to commit crimes—particularly those with prior convictions—do not regain access to firearms."
That take ignores the sweeping reach of Section 922(g)(1), which applies to millions of Americans with no history of violence. "Many felonies are not violent in the least, raising no particular suspicion that the convict is a threat to public safety," notes UCLA law professor Adam Winkler. "Perjury, securities law violations, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, and a host of other felonies do not indicate a propensity for dangerousness."
Vincent's lawyers, who want the Supreme Court to decide whether the Second Amendment allows the government to disarm people based on nothing more than a nonviolent criminal conviction, add some more examples. They note that Section 922(g)(1) can be triggered by state offenses such as adultery, defacing a school building, "repeatedly sharing streaming websites' passwords," "temporarily using someone else's car without their consent," and "using a telephone to make a single anonymous call to annoy or embarrass." They add that federal law "includes many felonies that involve no danger," such as "knowingly and unlawfully 'export[ing] any fish or wildlife'" or making "an unauthorized recording of a movie" in a theater.
As Bondi's critics see it, these are all "serious or violent crimes" that should result in permanent loss of the right to arms. That position is hard to reconcile with the Second Amendment's text and history. It also clashes with the goal of making sure that the punishment fits the crime.
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If she's unlikable, how's a Trump order going to help?
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It may be a silly law, but to declare it to be unconstitutional would be judicial activism. If you are convicted of a crime you get consequences.
They should change the law to allow nonviolent felons like Trump have guns but not allow anyone convicted of violent misdemeanors to have guns. But this isn't for courts.
And if a right can't be infringed after convictions then all prisons need to be emptied out.
It is not a criminal punishment: it is a preventive measure. If it were a criminal punishment:
- The federal government would need a sentence from a federal court for a federal felony in order to forbid gun possession when it is not already done in the state conviction. The federal government can’t simply “add” a federal punishment on top of a state conviction without a new federal criminal process.
- It would not apply to people who had committed a crime before the law went into effect.
Do you fear that Martha Stuart would turn violent if she had a gun?
Seventeen years later, Vincent is still not allowed to
Reason citing Reason! *drink*
that irrationally punishes nonviolent offenders long after they have served their formal sentences.
Y'know, "served their formal sentences" isn't the end of the story Jakey Jakey News is Fakey.
You seem to think that once the punitive aspects of the criminal justice system have been carried out, that it's a clean slate and a X-year later mulligan for life.
It's not. Crime in America comes with punitive AND collateral consequences. Because criminals, Jakey - and I know you don't want to hear this - criminals are a menace to society. We don't WANT criminals in society, Jakey - whether it's writing bad checks, smoking dope, jumping the border, sex trafficking, committing abortions, bank robbery, rape, murder, or pretty much any harm towards a child - so we go to considerable length to discourage the commission of crime.
(Or at least we should, and used to. Every since the "progressives" have "made everything better" to usher in their "democratically socialist utopia," things have really all kind of gone to hell.)
So, while the State's consequences for crime ends once your sentence is up, Society's consequences may linger for awhile. The Justice System, by design, is retributive. That's prison. Prison is your retribution for your committing a crime. But its term doesn't magically transform you from "menace to society" to "upstanding citizen."
Because you're a criminal. The citizens are still leery of you. Supposing you eventually get busted for a hard drive full of kiddie porn, Jakey, you may do a prison sentence - but you're not going to be allowed to live anywhere near a school or playground. That's because the justice system does not change the reality of who and what you are. Your time served is the State's punishment.
But you'd still have to prove to the rest of us that you're not a pedophile.
TLDR: how about you just DON'T commit crimes.
Are you sure you haven't committed any crimes today? There's an awful lot of federal law. I'm sure a sufficiently motivated prosecutor could find something.
Yes.
Something along the lines of punishment fitting a crime comes to mind. If I do something wrong, get caught, and prosecuted/ sentenced ok, I got what I had coming to me.
Now should that offense remain with me the rest of my life is another question. If I am not a violent offender, have remained a good citizen for 17 + years and given no indication that I am a threat, should I be precluded from exercising a right that has no relation to the offense in the first place? Vote, own a gun, hold a professional license...I think that is a much more relevant question than well, you committed a crime, so you're tagged for life get over it.
As for as guns go, a speeding ticket at any point in your past would be sufficient to disarm you, according to gun control advocates who will gladly accept any reason to take them away.
If I am not a violent offender, have remained a good citizen for 17 + years and given no indication that I am a threat, should I be precluded from exercising a right that has no relation to the offense in the first place?
Dunno. I suppose mileages may vary on that.
I think that is a much more relevant question than well, you committed a crime, so you're tagged for life get over it.
I don't disagree, but it IS a different subject. Who should get to decide who is or isn't a reformed criminal? Does the criminal get to decide that for himself, and impose his decisions on the rest of society; or does society get to decide that about him, and judge (with consequences) him accordingly?
As for as guns go, a speeding ticket at any point in your past would be sufficient to disarm you
I don't think that's true. It stinks of hyperbole and ignores the reality of how crime is viewed on a social level. Everybody speeds, even if only inadvertently. That doesn't really register on the "menace to society" scale the way check fraud (or even just shoplifting) does.
Anyway, my point wasn't "should the ex-con have a gun or not". It was "the fact that he did his time doesn't clean his slate." Maybe on a State punitive level, but not a social regulatory one (which we ask the State to regulate).
If it is imposed by the state, the consequences are still "state’s consequences", not merely "society’s consequences", even if they are not criminal punishments.
An example of "society’s consequences" would be being denied a job or a residential lease even though the employer or landlord has no legal obligation to do so.
If it is imposed by the state, the consequences are still "state’s consequences"
Difference is that one is vested in their punitive power (prison) the other is vested in their regulatory power (public safety, peacekeeping, etc). The criminal courts only deal with the former. The latter gets the consent of the governed.
And if society wants to say, "We don't want the convicted to have guns," the State can add that to their regulatory power.
I suspect that if one were to get a petition together and get the matter put on the ballot, the regulatory power on the subject would be amended if it passed.
MAGAs are soft on crime because they want to give guns to murders and rapists. MAGAs support murder and rape.
You misspelled, "leftists."
If the bad check conviction was a misdemeanor, then Ms. Vincent should have the right to own a firearm.
However, if the bad check conviction was a felony, then no, she shouldn't have the right to own a firearm.
No one convicted of any felony should own a firearm.
This is just common sense, a concept lost on a lot of people especially those on the far left.
But felony inflation is a real thing; Many crimes that are "felonies" today were merely misdemeanors or even not crimes at all, not so long ago.
So, the government decides to make jaywalking a felony, and suddenly nobody who crosses a street in the wrong location can own a gun?
You didn't hear it from me, but for a part of recent IL history people who owned completely harmless firearm accessories were, and maybe still are, felons for failing to register these accessories that they previously legally owned and still currently legally own but just have not registered.
I disagree. If someone is convicted of a violent crime and is dangerous, they should have a long sentence. Stop giving slaps on the wrist to convicted, violent offenders.
For someone to have committed only a nonviolent offense and be denied the right to self defense long after she served her sentence is wrong, IMO.
(Though I do suspect Sullum is lying about this person was convicted for just one instance of bouncing a check. She had probably done it several times, showing intent. In fact, I hope Sullum is lying, as serving more than a year in prison and permanently losing your 2nd Amendment rights for SIMPLY bouncing a check one time at a grocery store is pretty dystopian.)
Lifetime punishment for a non-violent crime when they didn't receive a lifetime sentence?
After a non-violent felon has served their time and finished their probation they should be eligible to rejoin society and the rights which would include voting and owning a gun.
If they were convicted of a violent crime, then there should be a much larger hurtle. For one a much longer sentence and a much longer probation period. Still, once they have served their time and finished their probation they should also become eligible.
Perhaps, the sentencing should include the requirements to get their rights back. For example a person who was convicted of negligence that resulted in the death of a person versus a person whom plotted and planned killing a person should not be held to the same standard. A person who wrote a bad check should not be anywhere as restricted either of the two scenarios.
Common sense is that you do a crime, you do the time and when the time is over, then the time is over. Self-righteous people who can't comprehend that during the course of a day everyone including these same self-righteous people, are guilty of violating some law in the eyes of others, even without being aware of doing so, need to stop throwing stones in their glass houses.
Our justice system is far from perfect and there are many instances where a convicted person is exonerated through DNA evidence that proves without any shadow of doubt that they were innocent. The other notion is that we are supposedly reforming these people, not punishing them forever and a day.
After a non-violent felon has served their time and finished their probation they should be eligible to rejoin society and the rights which would include voting and owning a gun.
Why?
Common sense is that you do a crime, you do the time and when the time is over, then the time is over.
Better get your common sense checked then, because you're conflating "the time" - meaning their prison sentence - with something else completely.
As I said above - and has been consistently held by SCOTUS across decades - finishing your prison sentence doesn't magically transform you into a clean slate, rehabilitated, upstanding citizen. You still have the scarlet letter, and everyone can see it. That ain't the State doing anything to you. That's social.
And it's the height of arrogance to think that the rest of society should just forget you're a convicted criminal (or, like a trans, go along with the game of make-believe) just because you finished your stay at the gray bar hotel.
'In a June 18 letter to Bondi, six Democratic lawmakers said she is flouting the will of Congress, which "intended that those most likely to commit crimes—particularly those with prior convictions—do not regain access to firearms."' So they fear Martha Stewart - and would even if the Attorney Generals office had declined to prosecute for statements that seemed to me to be protected by the first amendment.
I am highly concerned that such irrational and hate-filled people get to vote on laws affecting all of us. Perhaps we should imprison them, just as a precaution.