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Federal Reserve

Trump's Fed Coup

Plus: Beachy vignettes, Smithsonian scrutiny, Gavin Newsom might not be the Democrats' great new hope, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.29.2025 9:30 AM

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She's cooked: Lisa Cook, one of seven Federal Reserve Board members, was fired "for cause" by President Donald Trump earlier this week for what he calls "deceitful and potentially criminal conduct." The claim is that she committed mortgage fraud by declaring two residences to be her primary (and thus tax-advantaged), purchased within a few weeks of each other—sloppy, and somewhat common, and also not something that's been proven as of now. Cook is suing. The rest of the Federal Reserve Board is left wondering how exactly they should handle this situation: Does Cook still have a job? How long will it take this lawsuit to wend its way through the courts? Do you adhere to Trump's dictates whenever they're issued? How legal is this for-cause firing anyway?

"Does 'for cause' require something more substantial than a mere allegation of wrongdoing, such as a formal charge, or a conviction, or even something else?" asks Reason's Damon Root in a great piece on the precedent the Supreme Court might lean on (Namely Humphrey's Executor v. United States (1935) and Seila Law v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (2020)). "Here's another question to ask: Is the mortgage fraud allegation that's been leveled against Cook merely a pretext designed to cover the fact that Trump is actually firing Cook for illegal political reasons?"

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Vice President J.D. Vance has been out there working overtime to spin it. "The question is: Do we want a person who makes a mistake like that to be a person who sits on the Federal Reserve Board, which makes important monetary policy for the entire country?" asked the vice president in an interview with USA Today. "Whether it's criminal, whether it's intentional or not, we know that this is a person, I think, who doesn't meet the standard that we should expect for the Federal Reserve, which is why the president fired her and he does have the legal right to fire her."

"I don't think we allow  bureaucrats to make decisions about monetary policy and interest rates without any input from the people that were elected to serve the American people," he added. "POTUS is much better able to make these determinations."

I don't think democratically setting monetary policy would go very well, truth be told. I am glad the Federal Reserve Board is appointed, and for long terms (14 years), in an attempt to somewhat insulate them from partisan politics (notice the hedging there, because I suffer from no delusions that they're in no way political actors; see QUICK HITS below, or the timing of some of the rate changes in the lead-up to the 2024 election). And Trump setting monetary policy, contra precedent, would not be especially democratic or yield especially good results: I did not anticipate or hope for a Trump-Fed coup when I voted for him, and undermining of these institutions—whether it's the MAGA-led initiative to get total control of the Fed or Democrats' court-packing pipe dream that would destroy the Supreme Court—is not something I, or many other voters, support. Do we really think Trump will be measured and moderate when it comes to rate-setting? Or do you think it might end up being just another impulsive decision oriented toward making his economy look good, with little eye toward longer-term consequences?

Trump's mismanagement of the economy seemingly won't stop with bad fiscal policy; now he's making clear his belief that the executive ought to have total power over monetary policy too. Whatever could go wrong?

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan provides a tidy recent example: He wanted lower interest rates, which he believed would tame inflation. Lowering interest rates sent inflation soaring. From 2018 to 2021, he kept firing the heads of the central bank, dissatisfied with how they handled rate-setting. "In March 2021, Turkey's inflation rate stood at 16.7%," reports CNN. "By October 2022, the rate had peaked at 85.5%. Those price rises precipitated repeated cuts to Turkey's base interest rate, falling to a low of 8.5% in February 2023. The Turkish lira was propped up through much of that turbulence through the use of foreign currency reserves, which put Turkey on the brink of a debt crisis."

(For an episode with a defense of phasing out the Fed, or at least making it a little more Austrian in nature, check out the Bob Murphy Just Asking Questions linked below; lots of good libertarian arguments out there.)


Scenes from New York: I love this sweet vignette of a very beachy family trying to hold on to their tiny sliver of land in the Hamptons.


QUICK HITS

  • Really good conversation on the government taking a stake in Intel, Donald Trump's firing of Lisa Cook, whether the Fed was ever really politically independent, and much more:

  • Related: Inside Lisa Cook's social justice warrior past.
  • "Federal Housing Finance Agency Director Bill Pulte sent a new criminal referral against Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, intensifying the Trump administration's pressure campaign against the central bank board member over allegations of mortgage fraud," reports Bloomberg. "The new referral, in a letter to US Attorney General Pam Bondi dated Aug. 28, concerns a third property in Massachusetts and follows a complaint earlier this month alleging that Cook fraudulently listed homes in Michigan and Georgia as her 'primary residence' when she obtained mortgages in 2021, a declaration that typically secures more favorable loan terms. The latest complaint alleges Cook took out a mortgage agreement on a condominium in Cambridge, Massachusetts for $361,000, claiming that the property was a second home. Pulte alleges that eight months later, however, Cook declared that she had earned between $15,000-$50,000 in rental income and declared it an investment property."
  • Close readers of this Washington Post piece may notice how the Smithsonian was trying to put up a portrait of a transgender person posing as the Statue of Liberty. You can see how this type of thing (Amy Sherald's "Trans Forming Liberty") predictably increases Trump admin scrutiny of the institution, and makes the National Portrait Gallery a little boring when it's the exact type of art that's selected again and again and again.
  • Gavin Newsom, ngmi:

I can't decide what shocks me more: how ghoulish this comment is, or how stupid. This is their vaunted operator? The guy who is going to beat Trump at his own game? Pathetically ill-advised. https://t.co/PjR3oROz5M

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  1. tracerv   2 months ago

    "Trump's mismanagement of the economy"

    Need a cite for that Liz. No proof that I have seen in real life.

    1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

      Plenty of examples his on again off again tariffs. Having to fire a statistician because he did not like the results. Impact of the OBBB will have on the national debt. Trump 1.0 left this country in a recession and there is no reason to think that Trump 2.0 will not end the same way.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        He fired a guy that was eighter evil or retarded. If you are wrong 100% of the time... Oh wait, you are

      2. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

        You Democrats said George W Bush left the country in a recession.

        What do you know?

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
          Ya know, asswipe, I was hoping some parent caught you with their kid, ripped one of your arms off and beat you to death with it. It IS what you deserve.

          1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

            "Kiddie Diddler"?? You got issues...

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Like you, Shrike?

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              You're a fucking ignoramus, dumber than a bag of rocks.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        " Trump 1.0 left this country in a recession"

        You asshole. Unless you want to claim that Trump engineered COVID and the lab leak.

        1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

          Trumps poor handling of the economy before and at the start of Covid contributed significantly to the recession. You can give Trump a pass neither I nor history will do that.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

            Real wages grew to 4k a year under Trump 1.0. Do the world a favor and off yourself

          2. Marshal   2 months ago

            Trumps poor handling of the economy before and at the start of Covid contributed significantly to the recession.

            In reality Democrats intentionally tanked the economy to deny Trump his best re-election message costing millions their jobs and livelihoods. This is why blue state governors economic shutdowns were far stronger than those in red states. We need to always remember that even if you vote for them Dems are happy to ruin your life if it helps them politically.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              It's almost like Democrats created COVID in order to defeat Hitler, and advance other priorities in their Neo-socialist nanny state agenda.

              Hmm, that would make an interesting movie.

            2. Juliana Frink   2 months ago

              "In reality Democrats intentionally tanked the economy to deny Trump his best re-election message costing millions their jobs and livelihoods."

              Anybody who doesn't acknowledge this either hasn't been paying attention or is on board with it.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                Useful and/or idiots.

      4. diver64   2 months ago

        Are we in a better place with Trump's use of tariffs to leverage more fair trade deals with other countries or are we not. The numbers coming in suggest we are.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          What numbers?

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            The ones that Trump makes up. Numbers based on facts are leftist.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Cite?

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            We are all familiar with TDS-addled lying piles of shit ignoring data, TDS-addled lying pile of shit, but:

            "U.S. economy expanded 3.3% in Q2, with growth even stronger than initially thought"
            https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/us-economy-expanded-3point3-q2-growth-even-stronger-initially-thought-rcna227720

            Your constant whining is tiresome; make your family proud. Fuck off and die.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Who was it that defended the -.5% contraction of the GDP in Q1 by pointing out that it was due to cutting government spending and GDP is bogus because of that? What happened? Now we're cool with it?

              Anyway, we have nothing better to go on, but we should use some critical thinking looking at it. Q2 ended 2 months ago which was barely in to the tariff era, but more reflects pre-tariff behavior and recovery from the contraction in Q1.

              Your constant whining is tiresome

              Oh, Pot, why are you so black?

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                "Who was it that defended the -.5% contraction of the GDP in Q1 by pointing out that it was due to cutting government spending and GDP is bogus because of that?"

                Good question, TDS-addled pile of steaming shit. Let us know when you find out.
                WITH DIRECT CITES, asswipe.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          What freer or fair trade deals?

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            We are all familiar with TDS-addled lying piles of shit ignoring data, TDS-addled lying pile of shit, but:

            "U.S. economy expanded 3.3% in Q2, with growth even stronger than initially thought"
            https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/us-economy-expanded-3point3-q2-growth-even-stronger-initially-thought-rcna227720

            Your constant whining is tiresome. Make your family proud; fuck off and die.

            1. The Average Dude (Who's Smarter Than You)   2 months ago

              I love how you believe that literally one link overrides ALL other existing data and historical precedent. One link to one article. Welp, there it is! All the warnings, precedent, logic, common sense - all incorrect! Thanks to Sevo and his lord~n~savior Donald J. Trump, all it takes is one data point. And the article btw is for Q2, back when most tariffs were mere threats and not actually in place. We're almost at the end of Q3 now.

              Dude I genuinely find it hard to believe you're THIS fucking stupid. Crazy? Yes. But I mean, it would actually be hard and take a lot of effort to be this much of a complete and utter moron.

              I won't tell you to "fuck off and die" as you charmingly do to others; I do recommend both a colon and body cleanse, though - you got waaayyy too many MAGA toxins floating around your veins.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                I love how TDS-addled slimy piles of shit make wild claims with no cites and then gripe when other provide opposing claims with cites.
                Fuck off and die, shitstain.

      5. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        ""fire a statistician because he did not like the results."'

        The guy that helped Trump get elected by revising Biden's numbers down every time? Why would you support that guy?

      6. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        You mean the guy who's monthly reports had to be revised by huge margins on a regular basis over the past few years?

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          This will come as a shock to you, but reports are written based upon the available information at the time. They are then revised as new information comes in. This is perfectly normal.

          1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

            Then they should wait for all the data.

            1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              I don't know what the grey box said, but judging by your comment...

              If the issue was simply that the data was preliminary, one would tend to expect that errors would be more uniformly distributed. Instead, we saw a multi-year stream of overly (WAY OVERLY sometimes) exuberant jobs reports, followed by quiet retractions and corrections later. The errors almost always went in favor of the administration and were trumpeted as proof of the goodness of their policies. The errors were so large in magnitude and so often in one direction that the effect is more readily explained by data manipulation than by data collection issues.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Data should not and does not need to be revised by that much. If those estimates are off by more than 10% or so, then someone’s cooking the books.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Normal? Since the adjustments were almost always in the same direction, then "normal" for partisans. Or retards.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Oops I tripped and dropped this here

      https://notthebee.com/article/us-gdp-for-second-quarter-revised-upward-beats-expectations-set-by-economists

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        Whoa...The terrain IS treacherous here. Now I dropped this article:

        The fine print is pretty interesting on this one...The twist here is the way GDP is calculated — GDP is the final value of goods and services produced in the U.S. — imports are subtracted from that...Focusing solely on what consumers and businesses were buying this spring, GDP was still growing, but not as robustly as last year....“That suggests to us that you know that there's clear signs on an underlying slowdown,” said Brian Coulton at Fitch Ratings.

        https://www.marketplace.org/story/2025/08/28/the-economy-grew-at-33-last-quarter-but-theres-an-asterisk

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          So people don't like the results so they change the measurements from how it was done under the previous guy in order to achieve the conclusion they want. Move to a Marxist country. Get out of mine

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            What changes?

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          If people read the fine print they would know the Steele dossier was not reliable, and that 51 former intel staff did not say Hunters laptop was Russian disinformation.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Uh huh. And?

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              People don't read the fine print.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                Right. And they end up being fooled.

                So you were agreeing with me? I'm just not used to having someone agree with me here. I didn't even consider the possibility. Did we just become best friends?

                1. DesigNate   2 months ago

                  I’m hurt.

        3. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Why would you count imports in your Domestic product calculation? That makes no sense.

          (Granted, there’s a lot that doesn’t make sense in the calculation of GDP, like including government spending, but that’s a conversation for another day.)

    3. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Great point. Higher prices and fewer jobs are good for the economy.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Just ask your good friend Joe Biden.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      2nd quarter GDP revised up. Markets hit all time highs.

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "Trump's mismanagement of the economy"
      Gee, glad we didn't have that 'mismanagement' claimed by TDS-addled lying piles of slimy shit in the last administration:
      "U.S. economy expanded 3.3% in Q2, with growth even stronger than initially thought"
      https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/us-economy-expanded-3point3-q2-growth-even-stronger-initially-thought-rcna227720

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      This is a very important day. I’ll sign the single-biggest economic relief package in American history and, I must say, or any other package, by the way.

      https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-signing-h-r-748-cares-act/

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Being a TDS-addled lying pile of shit could cause this.
        And does.
        Fuck off and die shitstain.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          Defending the Cares Act, Sevo sure does loves him some Fauci cock.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            Lying, as TDS-addled slimy piles of shit do, suggest "Always A TDS-Addled Slimy Pile of Shit" sure does luv some Biden poop-hole sucking.

      2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES!

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          FAUCI FANS UNITE! DEFEND THE CARES ACT! DEFEND TRUMP!

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES!

      3. DesigNate   2 months ago

        https://reason.com/2025/08/29/trumps-4-9-billion-pocket-rescission-violates-federal-law-and-usurps-congressional-authority/

  2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Related: Inside Lisa Cook's social justice warrior past.'

    Come on, man. Multiple primary residence mortgage tax breaks are the least reparations she is entitled to.

  3. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    "Does 'for cause' require something more substantial than a mere allegation of wrongdoing, such as a formal charge, or a conviction, or even something else?"

    Not if you go by precedent - - - - - -

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/08/29/trump-was-right-to-fire-fed-governor-lisa-cook-and-heres-why/

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Democrats did it first and that makes it ok?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Do you ever tire of that worn out, moldy strawman troll?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Didja know you can get a buzz off of moldy straw?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Suggesting Sarc has ergot poisoning? Makes sense.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        The leaders of corruption.

      3. Marshal   2 months ago

        Revealingly nothing in the article is about a Dem doing it. As usual sarc has no idea what is going on because his only interest is attacking others to make the thread entirely about himself.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      She's a Marxist. All Marxists deserver to have a 100% income and property tax

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "Lead by example!"

    3. diver64   2 months ago

      I read that this morning and referenced it in a different story on this sight. Navarro makes some very good points. "Cause" does not mean a person has to be convicted of a crime. If you catch an employee taking home office supplies and fire them but don't refer them for arrest you still have cause to fire them. She has been caught now a third time committing mortgage fraud. The appearance of illegality should disqualify her from sitting on the Fed. She needs to go away but she is a SJW and is convinced she is owed a job as reparations. If you disagree your a racist which is the go to for unqualified people trying to keep a job in view of incompetence or illegality. Won't work with this DOJ as the days of cowering before those type of allegations are over.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Also per SCOTUS precedent article 3 courts have no jurisdiction. This is a frivolous lawsuit that should be immediately dismissed.
      https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-doj-files-blistering-response-lisa-cook-lawsuit
      Citing Reagan v. United States (1901) and Dalton v. Specter (1994), they write "Where a statute commits decisionmaking to the discretion of the President, judicial review of the President’s decision is not available," therefore Cook cannot get a temporary restraining order allowing her to stay in her job.
      Sufficient Cause Exists: Alleged Mortgage Misrepresentations
      The filing claims the “cause” for Cook’s removal comes from allegedly false statements in two 2021 mortgage applications:
      “In both agreements - entered within just weeks of each other - Dr. Cook represented that she would occupy each property as her ‘principal residence.’”
      Trump’s legal team frames this as potential mortgage fraud:
      “It is difficult, if not impossible, to see how Dr. Cook could possibly have honestly represented that she intended to occupy and use both a property in Michigan and a condominium in Atlanta as her ‘principal residence’ during the same period.”
      They stress that criminal prosecution is not required:
      “The President need not prove criminal acts beyond a reasonable doubt to remove a principal officer.”
      To wit, "And under any standard, making facially contradictory statements in financial documents - whether a criminal burden of proof could be sustained or not - is more than sufficient ground for removing a senior financial regulator from office."
      She Never Denied It
      The DOJ argues that Cook never rebutted the substance of the FHFA referral:
      “Dr. Cook does not try to claim that the contradictory representations were somehow truthful, or maintain that she acted without scienter.”
      Instead, she issued a statement:
      "I have no intention of being bullied to step down from my position because of some questions raised in a tweet"
      The filing claims this refusal to provide an explanation justifies removal:
      "Dr. Cook’s refusal even to offer an explanation or defense makes it all the more impossible to conclude that the ‘cause’ standard is unsatisfied."
      Procedural Due Process Does Not Apply
      In response to Cook's claims that she was 'deprived of notice' and an opportunity to respond to the President's concern over allegations of mortgage fraud, the DOJ notes that "no court has ever extended those due-process protections for employees to principal officers of the United States. Nor does the FRA purport to do so."

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        “Dr.” Cook?

        Lol. Her and doc molly must have been ugly sorority sisters. Ooof.

  4. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    I would hardly call firing someone for fraud a "coup".
    Words have meanings, Liz, despite the newspeak efforts of the left.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      But the Left has declared ownership of language (and morality and philosophy). And with the all-powerful concept of post-modern woke critical theory, "Now fortified with Intersectionality sparkles!", only they can tell us what is fraudulent. Spoiler alert: Cook did nothing wrong because she is a black female leftist SJW. Any attempt to judge her based on universal abstract law is MAGA patriarchal oppression.

  5. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

    NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW iirc

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        DUE PROCESS!

      2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Now you care? Pfft, don't make me laugh, pedo jeffy.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Are you kidding? In the cashless bail discussion, I'm the one who had to explain to a large number of you all that a person who appears at a bail hearing does in fact maintain a presumption of innocence, and treating that person as if he/she were already guilty is unjust and wrong.

          Where are you on this matter? Should a person who shows up for a bail hearing be presumed guilty and treated that way?

          You are an idiot who believes memes over reality.

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Pedo jeffy says I'm an idiot. High praise from a retard. Poor little pedo.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              All you have are insults and mockery. You have no substance. You can't defend ideas on their merits, you can't criticize ideas on their merits. Yes you are an idiot because the MAGA cult has rotted your brain.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                Considering that all you routinely do is dodge, duck, and obfuscate, why should anyone bother doing anything else with you?

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          I'm willing to bet that you would be one of the people I referenced below who would support a military coup if it meant getting rid of a left-wing president.

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            I'm not going in search of some stupid hypothetical you made. Eat shit pedo.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              And if that first action by the military junta were to round up all the "traitors" (meaning: everyone not indoctrinated into the MAGA cult) and shoot them, you'd support that too.

              1. damikesc   2 months ago

                You had no problem with them criminally prosecuting Trump's lawyers for the crime of...offering legal advice.

                You can sit this one out, Sparky.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Now do Russia-gate.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Where did this newfound respect for due process come from, Jeffy? You haven’t exhibited this sentiment previously.

      4. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Is not the standard for firing someone!

  6. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

    Trump's mismanagement of the economy seemingly won't stop with bad fiscal policy; now he's making clear his belief that the executive ought to have total power over monetary policy too. Whatever could go wrong?

    Unitary executive (people's dictator) is the conservative way

    #Limpcock-approved.

    1. diver64   2 months ago

      Trump has said nothing about monetary policy other than criticizing Powell who just this week admitted Trump was right. Firing a Fed Gov for mortgage fraud is not evidence of "mismanagement of the economy" or "total power over monetary policy". Liz is being a tad hysterical in those claims.

      1. tracerv   2 months ago

        Yeah. Liz goes from based one day to hysterical the next.

        I'd say she needs a better editor, but she's a chick. What you gonna do?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Go back to talking about US flag bikinis?

          1. tracerv   2 months ago

            Hmm. Maybe. I love the visual image.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      So, Limpdickhead, what happened to your original account?

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  7. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

    Whether you agree with this country having a Federal Bank, there should be no disagreements that the Feds actions must be a free from politics as is possible. Giving the Fed board long terms is the best hope of getting some insulation from politics. Trump can not be allowed to interfere with those terms.

    It is also somewhat hypocritical for a President who has been adjudicated of business fraud to be questioning Ms. Cook.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      “Free from politics” is why the just so happened to drop rates before the election to help slow joe.

      1. Fu Manchu   2 months ago

        LOL, that's the narrative now? The fed waited long after Biden wanted to drop rates, and long after most people expected them to drop, dropping them only at the end of 2024, too late for the effect to be felt before the election. And that was to help Biden. Now that Trump's president, waiting to drop rates is to hurt Trump. This narrative is the result of a cult led by a paranoid delusional moron who thinks everyone is out to get him.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          This comment was written by a member of a cult: TDS-addled lying piles of slimy lefty shit.
          Fuck off and die, asswipe

    2. diver64   2 months ago

      Your argument is that once appointed a Fed Gov can not be fired for any reason and that there should be permanent Gov employees with no oversight and accountable to no one? That's a dangerous precedent cementing an administrative state than can do anything they want to you with no consequences.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Trust the experts!

        1. tracerv   2 months ago

          Top. Men.

    3. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Who holds the bureaucrats responsible then?

    4. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      adjudicated of business fraud

      Slimy, mealy-mouthed BS by slimy, mealy-mouthed Leftists. Fuck off.

    5. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I don't know. It seems like it makes his opinions more valid, since he knows what he's talking about, i.e., takes one to know one.

    6. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      “Adjudicated”, huh?

      Is that what it’s called when you are declared guilty at the beginning of the process and not allowed to present a defense?

    7. damikesc   2 months ago

      Ms. Cook should have her finances fucking pristine, far more than any other person in the country. Trump's case was utter bullshit. Hers is rather cut and dried --- they have the mortgage forms.

      She, it should be noted, has still not denied anything.

      Her leaving is not going to impact the overall talent of the board negatively.

  8. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Close readers of this Washington Post piece may notice how the Smithsonian was trying to put up a portrait of a transgender person posing as the Statue of Liberty.'

    How about as the Statue of Libertine? (Then the Reason staff would be happy, too.)

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Close readers of the Washington post have an average iq of 3

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        How about Reason staff?

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

          3.00000000000001

          1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            Which "editors" did you exclude to get that figure?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Sullum, Boehm, ENB, and Welch, all of whom have IQs in negative territory.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                do four negatives make a positive?

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                  Only if you use multiplication or division.

      2. Jerry B.   2 months ago

        Close readers of the Washington Post believe in "Know thine enemy".

    2. diver64   2 months ago

      "Statue of Libertine". Nice.

      1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        The Duc de Blangis, naked.

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Man, they’re still celebrating this tranny cult. Despite all evidence.

      This is not aging well.

  9. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

    Sloppy? Two applications in two separate States in weeks is sloppy and not knowing fraud? Fuck off with your justification of this BS. Also, how many times have people lost their jobs or had their life destroyed with much less proof? Hell, Robby was all in on ruining Kavanaugh because a couple of crazy bitches said some unverifiable and even outright refuted allegations but now we need to wait for the lengthy criminal process when the proof is publicly available for any semi-competent journalist to review? Shocking you haven't bothered but I guess the qualifier explains that.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      (D)ifferent

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      A judge found summary judgement against Trump because of a technicality of what was on the paperwork. Something the bank ignored, but because of what was written on the paper that was good enough to deny a trial and let one man decide.

      If you don't want people using tools against you, perhaps you should not teach them the effectiveness of said tools.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Most of us don't have the luxury of being sloppy when signing legal documents. I've signed mortgage agreements on principle residences, commercial properties and rental properties. Most closings will involve a title company, realtor, lawyer and loan officer to prevent sloppiness. But it doesn't really matter. It's impossible to make the claim that you live in two places at the same time. And while I haven't seen this mentioned, most jurisdictions allow a homestead exemption for a principle residence but you only get one. If she's willing to commit mortgage fraud someone should take a look at her property tax exemptions.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Hey, strict legal enforcements of contracts is white patriarchal privilege. And oppression of marginalized* people.

        *In this case, and most others raised by progressives, anyone is entitled to feel marginalized if their life at that moment is not all they dreamed it should be.

  10. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'I can’t decide what shocks me more: how ghoulish this comment is, or how stupid. This is their vaunted operator? The guy who is going to beat Trump at his own game? Pathetically ill-advised.

    Gavin Newsom
    @GavinNewsom
    ·
    19h
    These children were literally praying as they got shot at.'

    Hey, Gavin, wanna bet the kids were praying for stuff you despise?

    1. tracerv   2 months ago

      The only thing I can figure is he & his team think it makes him look tough and anti-Trumpian.

      Who the hell do they think they are playing too? It's another 80/20 fuck up.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        But it scores a 80-20 win (or better) in their NYT-MSNBC base.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        This reminds me of the Beto "hell ya we are coming for your guns" comment.

        There are too many R's or people that are independent that are either still Christian, or know enough Christians, or can simply sympathize with this horrible situation where a troon creation of the left wing mowed down little Christian kids and it was met with the callous response of "guess their prayers didn't work eh?"

        Absolutely another 80/20.

        You add up support for trannies in womens sports, support for transgenderism in general, and callous comments like this one, and they can just write off the next presidential election. The public is far far away from them on these common sense issues.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      This really reminds me of scenarios where you have that guy in class that constantly shit talks and picks on everyone else in the class with free reign, but then some quiet little Johnny gets his courage up to stand up to him, and when the bully comes to him and makes fun of his glasses or calls him fat for the 10th time, he gets really nervous and blurts out "YA WELL I FUCKED YOUR LITTLE SISTER IN THE ASS!" as the principal is walking by. *awkward laugh from himself only, silence from the crowd*

      Newsom has that little fat kid energy. He's not the bully, he is LARPing as one, and he doesn't know how to properly calibrate.

      You could tell when he had Charlie Kirk on, his kid watches right wing debaters. He desperately wants to be able to hang with that crowd to show his kid that daddy can be a tough guy too, but he has spent his entire political life playing in the left wing bubble where the rules of the game are simply repeat the propaganda like a good foot soldier, and wait for the army of updoots and MSM stroking. That's the handshake agreement. All of the muscles he needs to be a bully, to be a tough guy, to actually debate in the real world outside his bubble, have all atrophied.

  11. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    Definitely just cause for firing Lisa Cook. Most companies will fire you for this too.

    https://x.com/pulte/status/1961239276148199679?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    3 strikes and you’re out.

    Today, U.S. Federal Housing sent a 2nd Criminal Referral in the matter of Lisa D. Cook, related to a mortgage on a 3rd property and alleged misrepresentations about her properties to the United States Government during her time as Governor of the Federal Reserve. On April 7, 2021, Cook entered a 15-year mortgage for a condominium in Cambridge, MA, representing it as her “Second Home”. Only eight months later, on December 1, 2021, Cook signed an ethics form with the U.S. Government that this property was an “investment/rental property”. In subsequent filings from 2022 to 2025, Cook consistently listed this property as an investment/rental property, not a second home. Representing the property as a second home may have allowed Cook to secure a lower “Second Home” mortgage down payment and rates, as investment properties typically carry higher down payments and higher rates due to increased risk. Additionally, Cook allegedly misrepresented her Atlanta, GA property from 2022-2025 to the U.S. Government as her residence, despite evidence suggesting it was being rented out to tenants. Similarly, Cook declared in a 2025 government filing that her Ann Arbor, MI property was her personal residence, however, we have reason to believe that as of 2025, the Ann Arbor property is being used as a rental property, not a personal residence. These inconsistencies appear Cook made additional, multiple false representations, including to the U.S. Government, regarding the status of her mortgages and properties.

    By the way, suck it, Sarc and Molly.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      no president has ever dismissed a member of the board,

      Until now.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Multiple board members have resigned when accused of financial impropriety. Cook should have done that instead of begging to be indicted.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Proud black women never resign.

    2. diver64   2 months ago

      How many fucking properties in other states does she own? If she is a real estate investor she should have listed that on the questionnaire but then again, that would have precluded her from the post she was seeking that, in part, set the policy used to determine mortgage rates which would have benefitted her. Why is no one pointing this out? Having a home and a vacation home is one thing. Buying and selling real estate for profit is another. Committing mortgage fraud is a whole different ball of wax.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      To date she hasn't denied any of this. She hasn't even pleaded sloppyness.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        She has pleaded oppression.

        In any woke court that's enough.

  12. SRG2   2 months ago

    Thus Vance: "POTUS is much better able to make these determinations."

    Not this POTUS> When it comes to macroeconomics, Trump is an ignoramus - dangerously so. And keeping the Fed independent is a very good idea.

    1. Moderation4ever   2 months ago

      Keeping the Fed independent is good no matter the President.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Actually imprisoning the trash that have the goal of destroying my country is a good start. That includes all of the fed.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        The word you’re looking for is “non-partisan”. The Fed is not independent as it must answer to the head of one of three constitutionally named branches of government. There is no fourth branch.

      3. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        When someone says "independent" Trumpians hear "Democrat".

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Maybe because a number of so-called “independents” caucus with the Democrats?

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          When Sarc says "Trumpians" we all hear "not Democrats".

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            I already know you are a binary-thinking partisan retard. You didn't have to remind me.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Speak for yourself, dipshit.

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              Feisty this morning? You must be at the sweet spot of alcohol consumption for today.

        3. DesigNate   2 months ago

          When someone says “independent government agency” I hear “fucking unconstitutional bullshit”. But then, I’m a libertarian.

      4. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        "Keeping the Fed"

        Said no Libertarian ever.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Since when was M4e a libertarian?

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Since 2+2 = 5

    2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      The only way anyone could be a billionaire is be ignorant of how the economy works.

      1. SRG2   2 months ago

        Fuckwit, macroeconomics is very different from property development and self-promotion. But as you know bugger-all about macroeconomics, unsurprising you made such a stupid comment.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Asswipe, you are a TDS-addled lying pile of shit who should fuck off and die.

        2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          If it’s so easy, why aren’t you doing it?

    3. diver64   2 months ago

      How is the economy doing? How much money is being generated by the tariffs? What's the price of gas? Bread? Eggs which just recently was a fetish of those on the left? Things look pretty good compared to the disaster of President Autopen. Things are going to be more expensive from a few years ago as Trump had to start from a level 20% higher due to Brandon's inflation and believe me, we don't want a deflationary spiral. Trump and his Administration is being forced to pick up the pieces Brandon and his crew of misfits left behind.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      To the slimy pile of TDS-addled lying shit SRG, NOT firing someone committing real-estate fraud is "keeping the Fed independent"
      How about armed robbery, you pathetic pile of shit?
      He is a fucking ignoramus, ain'e he?

    5. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      An impossible goal

  13. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Your just asking questions features a fraud. Went to his web site to see where he stood during the Biden Years, and wouldn't you know he took it all down. Dont worry the moron also cranks out books to sell you.

  14. mad.casual   2 months ago

    Gavin Newsom, ngmi:

    I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke atheists to make successive declarations like "Sky Daddy doesn't grant wishes!" *and* "Because your Sky Daddy didn't grant your wish he doesn't exist."

    If you believed your principles and precepts the two statements would be either non sequitur or tautological. Like waiting for a plane crash to say "SEE! NEWTON WAS RIGHT! THE FORCE OF GRAVITY IS PROPORTIONAL TO THE MASSES AND INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL TO THE SQUARE OF THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THEM!" If the teleological argument for God is flawed and wrong, then this is the teleological argument in support of your own intellect or correctness.

  15. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Islam is a religion of peace and we should welcome as many Muslims into our western countries as can come here!

    Palestinians are wonderful people who just want to left alone.

    https://x.com/MEMRIReports/status/1956264502673932375

    Palestinian Activist Ahed Tamimi: We Are Fighting the Jews, Not Just Zionism; Westerners Patronize Us with Their Aid, They should Shut Up When We Talk; They Will Give Us Aid, Whether They Like It Or Not, and We Will Not Thank Them; I Wish for a Nuclear WWIII, So the Whole World Is Destroyed, Not Just the Palestinians

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_September

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      I think we should take Tamimi on a hunting trip.

      1. tracerv   2 months ago

        Dick Cheney. White courtesy phone, please.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          No, the white phone.

          1. tracerv   2 months ago

            Don't start your white phone shit again, ITL.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      I could end her, and all of the palistienian suffering for about 30 cents a muzzi

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Ammo sure has gotten expensive.

  16. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Ripples:

    CNBC: Second quarter GDP has been revised up to 3.3% — while inflation has been revised down to 2%, right on track with the Fed's target rate.

    https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/1961055769333223629

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      So tired of Trump fucking up the economy.

  17. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    "Here's another question to ask: Is the mortgage fraud allegation that's been leveled against Cook merely a pretext designed to cover the fact that Trump is actually firing Cook for illegal political reasons?"

    I can commit any crime I want - Trump is icky. You can't ask a liberal not to commit fraud. Biden is healthy. Her activity is legal. 2+2=5.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      ^ This guy gets woke post-modern Critical Theory Neo-socialism.

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

        He’s a damn expert in touch with our values and precious norms

  18. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    Their raping is our fault:

    Far-right anger over asylum hotels is destroying the very idea of refuge – and that’s probably the goal
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/aug/20/far-right-anger-asylum-hotels-destroying-refuge

    This court ruling is both illustrative of and instrumental in the solidity of fury as a political instrument. The judge granted the injunction after hearing the local council’s complaints that planning law had been breached in changing the site’s use. But underlying this, the council also cited disruption caused by recent protests. An asylum seeker from the hotel was accused of sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl and concerns were raised about potential future threats. Since then, the hotel has become a site of protest, with large groups gathering with flares, flags and signs. Extrapolating from an assault accusation that all asylum seekers pose a danger is racist. There are concerns about other public disorder charges, but that sort of offence can be self-fulfilling. If your accommodation is regularly surrounded by a small, hostile mob that sometimes wants to set fire to it, it’s probably quite difficult to slot into a normal, law-abiding life, or even know what a law-abiding life looks like, in this country you escaped to, having heard it was civilised.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Naw, you get used to it.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        My lawyer will be contacting you to collect royalties.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          I thought you said you didn’t say that.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            No. I said that I said it.

            You're the one that said I said I never said it, but if you go back to the thread where I said it, or the thread where I said I said it, you'll see I said it, and I said I said it. And now, I said I said I said it.

            'nough said.

            1. tracerv   2 months ago

              Who's on first? Third base!

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                I Don’t Know is on third.

    2. Z Crazy   2 months ago

      All asylum seekers should be assumed a threat to public safety unless they prove otherwise beyond a reasonable doubt!

      Those who side with these dirty migrants side with rape!

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      The Guardian, including their staff, should relocate to some Islamic paradise. Of course all the overtly liberal writers and editors, especially women and LBGTQXYZ123s, may have to modify their behavior a bit.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        Nah, they're so used to magical thinking they can just learn to fly.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      "See what you made me do!"

  19. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    The Knife and Axe Girl Was Right
    https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/08/28/the-knife-and-axe-girl-was-right-n3806262

    "Yes. So what happened was the girls where out just walking and the man in the picture made comments to lola(the younger girl) calling her sexy and other sexual remarks then the girls started to tell this man to leave them alone and stop following them and making sexual remarks to them. After that the man's sister (also in the picture) came around the corner and physically attacked ruby(the older sister) she grabbed her hair dragged her to the floor started to punch her then both the man and woman where kicking her in head while she was on the floor. At this point my daughter (mayah) called the police so my daughters account after that is all abit blurry. But that is when lola had the weapons she pulled them out to protect ruby. After that the man came back at lola recording her making sure she showed the weapons to the camera and antagonising her. Ruby was hospitalised after the attack with a severe concussion a tennis ball sized lump to the back of her head aswell as lots of bruises."

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

      Rights of asylum seekers trump local Epping residents, Home Office argues as it appeals decision to shut migrant hotel
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15042859/asylum-seekers-Epping-residents-Home-Office-migrant-hotel.html

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Stupid Brits think Britain is for them.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        I'm not a big fan of violent revolutions --- but one is needed in the UK. When a far right government finally gets into power --- and it will --- the payback best be vicious.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      The Knife and Axe Girl Was Right

      Who in IngSoc or Minitru do I have to see to get my memory hole fixed? Because these are still sitting on the top, staring me in the face:

      Wed 13 Aug 2025 07.06 EDT : Surrey police pose as joggers to catch men harassing women out exercising
      Undercover female officers deployed in pilot scheme to tackle catcalling, resulting in 18 arrests

      Fri 8 Aug 2025 07.43 EDT : Concerns over ‘gaps’ in police support for stalking victims in England and Wales
      Campaigners say system remains ‘postcode lottery’ after NPCC report finds varying levels of provision across forces

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        The UK hyper enforces minor law to, in their hopes, cover up their abdication of dealing with major law violations.

        Cat-calling? Bad.

        Raping underage girls for decades? Well, that is just a cultural difference.

  20. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    CDC Tracked Millions of Phones to See If Americans Followed COVID Lockdown Orders
    https://www.vice.com/en/article/cdc-tracked-phones-location-data-curfews/

    The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) bought access to location data harvested from tens of millions of phones in the United States to perform analysis of compliance with curfews, track patterns of people visiting K-12 schools, and specifically monitor the effectiveness of policy in the Navajo Nation, according to CDC documents obtained by Motherboard. The documents also show that although the CDC used COVID-19 as a reason to buy access to the data more quickly, it intended to use it for more-general CDC purposes.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      "more-general CDC purposes"

      Whew. Good to know these are only CDC purposes, and not FBI, ICE, NSA, TSA, CIA, DNC, FTC, DOJ, DEA, NEA, or FDIC purposes.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Personally, I'm just relieved that the tracking of millions of phones was in no way correlated with the silencing of any and all dissent by totally private social media companies or totally organic public riots and arson across the country that nobody was guilty of.

        Otherwise, people might get the impression that 2020 was a no-shit fascist coup and forget that Jan. 6th was the real insurrection.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          Yup.

  21. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    Govt healthcare:

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2025/09/canada-euthanasia-demand-maid-policy/683562/

    The details of the assisted-death experience have become a preoccupation of Canadian life. Patients meticulously orchestrate their final moments, planning celebrations around them: weekend house parties before a Sunday-night euthanasia in the garden; a Catholic priest to deliver last rites; extended-family renditions of “Auld Lang Syne” at the bedside. For $10.99, you can design your MAID experience with the help of the Be Ceremonial app; suggested rituals include a story altar, a forgiveness ceremony, and the collecting of tears from witnesses. On the Disrupting Death podcast, hosted by an educator and a social worker in Ontario, guests share ideas on subjects such as normalizing the MAID process for children facing the death of an adult in their life—a pajama party at a funeral home; painting a coffin in a schoolyard.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      How about a MAID reveal party where the balloon pops and releases either black or white sparkles? (Spoiler: always black)

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Once again and as always: the correct answer in the 1983 documentary from a world-renowned British think tank (NSFW).

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      a pajama party at a funeral home; painting a coffin in a schoolyard.

      In an unnotable Canadian conference room somewhere -

      Sr. Unelected Bureaucrat: I think you all know why we're here. It's vitally important to our social and political aims that we redeem public healthcare in the eyes of the populace. We came off looking pretty bad after the COVID lockdowns and it seemed like we mostly recovered by supporting the trans movement, but now that's starting to bite us in the ass too. If we keep this up, people are going to start to finally see what a sham public healthcare actually is. We need to think of a way to move past this whole transgender science debacle, where we mutil... supportively cared for children, and distract from the conspicuous spate of transgender shooters publishing their manifestos online. Think! People! Think!

      Jr. Unelected Bureaucrat: I think I might know a way...

    3. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Wow, so idyllic...

    4. mamabug   2 months ago

      Hot take - any priest who gives last rites to someone preparing to kill themselves should be defrocked.

      1. BYODB   2 months ago

        That's not even a hot take, that's more or less the position of the entire church and has been for a rather long time.

        Having someone else kill you is literally still suicide with a side of murder, thus damning two people instead of one.

        I might not put a whole lot of stock in the Christian faiths, despite knowing a good bit about them, but it's utterly shocking that they can find any Priest to perform such a rite.

        If someone wants to kill themselves I more or less view that as their choice, but roping other people into it makes it a murder. The only possible exception to that I can think of is someone who very much wants to die but is somehow unable to accomplish that on their own for whatever reason. Cowardice doesn't count as a reason.

  22. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/aug/25/epstein-ghislaine-maxwell-bill-clinton-conference

    Ghislaine Maxwell was honored by the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) in 2013, four years after sexual abuse accusations against her emerged – and two years after the former president Bill Clinton’s staff recommended banning her from official events, CNN has reported.

    Maxwell – who in 2022 was sentenced to 20 years in prison for sex trafficking and related crimes – attended the CGI conference as a guest of merit, where she was applauded for her work on ocean conservation alongside other “Commitment to Action” leaders, according to the network.

    Maxwell’s complimentary access to the conference indicated that her invitation was personally recommended by either Bill or Hillary Clinton, the former first lady, secretary of state and US senator, the outlet said. That is because a top Clinton aide, Doug Band, had instructed CGI staff to “remove Ghislaine, from all lists” for Clinton-related events, as CNN put it.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Well Liz told us the Trump connections were pouring out. Oh wait...

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        The most 'investigated' human in the history of the US, and they found NOTHING regarding Epstein, but that doesn't stop TDS-addled piles of shit like turd and Liz to keep hoping and praying...

  23. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

    Trump's mismanagement of the economy seemingly won't stop with bad fiscal policy; now he's making clear his belief that the executive ought to have total power over monetary policy too. Whatever could go wrong?

    Or, option 2, hear me out:

    CONGRESS, the elected body charged with fiscal policy, has to fucking vote on it, and take responsibility for their own shit?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      That's just crazy talk.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    END THE FED, ONE FIRING AT A TIME.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Hey, man, how can we even have an economy without government experts?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Can we use a firing squad instead?

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      YES REPEAL; NO REPLACE!

  25. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    They hate you because they believe you are white trash.

    https://x.com/anc_aesthetics/status/1961102356369588287?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    I never really understood how so many young girls could become victims of grooming gangs in the UK without anything being done. The numbers were just so insane it didn't make any sense.

    Then I made a small effort to help the family of one of those girls get their story out. Now I understand it completely. These girls from poor White families are targeted for a reason. They have no voice. If they try to say anything the entire establishment comes crashing down on them. The perspective from the police, the media, and a large number of people in the UK is the migrants are always right and the little girls are in the wrong. That's their default position and they will do whatever they can to make sure the truth doesn't come out. Truly evil stuff.

    They're going after me which is fine, I live in America, have fun with that. But imagine being from a poor neighborhood, often broken family, no resources and everywhere you go you have to deal with migrant rapist pedophiles accosting you. And not only do the police do nothing. If you fight back, you are arrested. At 12 years old. It's all so messed up. We have to save them.

    And in response:

    https://x.com/thehauskarl/status/1961105157489369360?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Well said. I only vaguely grasped this, it all felt very theoretical. British girls were fed to the grooming gangs because they, the whole of the white working class, are held in complete contempt by the regime.

    This phenomenon used to be called "class snobbery", but the progressive hivemind adapted to this (think Tony Blair, open collared shirts, "World's Best Dad" tea mugs, aping working class accents etc).

    They even go to special schools to teach them to talk like ordinary folk, glottal stops et al. They are very adept skinwalkers who ingratiate themselves to the top of the greasy pole of the state (e.g. Civil Service).

    The working classes are just a stepping stone, a necessary evil to corral votes from, on the way to getting a peerage and a gold-plated pension.

    So really it's obvious where these perverse attitudes around "they're just chavs" / "they're just slags" etc originated from. It's pure spite and class snobbery.

    I've seen more hateful comments about "chavs" and "slags" from libs in the last 24 hours than the last 20 years.

    They don't just not care about you, they think you're scum, and they think they deserve to rule you because they're better than you.

    This is just who they are.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Why are not feminist groups speaking out?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Like actual feminists or chicks with dicks?

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          Actual feminists.

          Also, regarding chicks with dicks, are the dicks in question inside their pussies?

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Either way, the dicks are fake.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Actual feminists (i.e. priority for actual women over other intersectional woke bullshit) died out a couple of decades ago.

            And that would be gender-nonspecific dicks inside front holes, you bigot.

          3. tracerv   2 months ago

            Might as well ask where Bigfoot is.

          4. damikesc   2 months ago

            Too busy condemning JK Rowling for not supporting men cosplaying as woman.

    2. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

      Its revenge against those White Males for the rapes and oppression they've committed for centuries. "How do you like it when its YOUR daughter being raped?".

      Rape is a tool for subjugation, and the left wants those people crushed.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        This is the same left that denies false rape accusations.

        https://www.threads.com/@mejercit/post/DMvMR7VRXPQ

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Intersectionality is a bitch.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      you are white trash

      And not the more traditional, somewhat objective "I cheated on my wife with my dead brother's widow and cheated on *her* with a stripper whom I impregnated." white trash we're familiar with either.

      Kinda like white trash with a "hard r".

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      If "white trash" means prioritizing natives over immigrants, promoting individual rights and responsibilities, supporting free markets and pushing back on socialism, enforcing laws equally, and telling elitist progressives to fuck off, then count me in.

    5. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Liz told us a while back that she wasn't following this story. I really don't see how you can form any opinions about the UK without confronting the fact that they have legalized immigrant rape of native children. Any impressions you have about immigration, censorship and even foreign policy look different when viewed through that lens.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        The most mind blowing part of the whole thing is the direct correlation between, 'Borders are just an abstract social construct that people should be able to cross any time they want to.' and 'Hey baby, come over here and lemme show you an abstract social construct that I should be able to cross any time I want to.'

        It's even more direct, obvious, foreseen and foretold than the insanity down the slope from "If two men can marry each other, what's next? Dogs and cats living together?"

  26. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    POTUS is much better able to make these determinations."

    JD Vance wrong again. Trump inflationary policy has been ruinous to this country.

    https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-signing-h-r-748-cares-act/

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Always a lying pile of TDS-addled shit it wrong again:

      "U.S. economy expanded 3.3% in Q2, with growth even stronger than initially thought"
      https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/us-economy-expanded-3point3-q2-growth-even-stronger-initially-thought-rcna227720

      Fuck off and die, shitstain.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Suck Fauci's dick harder. Fuck you and your support of the Cares Act, you slimeball.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Carry that strawman all the way from home, asswipe? Show me ONCE where I ever supported Fauci. And quit licking Biden's poop-hole.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            Well everytime I criticize Donald Trump's response to Covid, you come running to his defense. Hence your a Fauci rentboy.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              '....Well everytime I *lie about* Donald Trump's response to Covid...'

              Fixed for ya, Biden ass-licker.

              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                Ok, CNN fact checker. I posted Trump's own words and that's a lie. You are a fucking joke.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                  Strangely enough, asswipe, there is not a single link with a quote Trump above this.
                  But, given that you ARE an imbecilic lying pile of TDS-addled whit, that is not at all surprising.
                  Fuck off and die, shitstain,

        2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          The only thing SaGN thinks about, all day, every day:

          CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES!

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            TDS-addled shits have to grasp any straw they can find, and did you hear about Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan!?!?!?!? Why, he's almost TRUMP!

          2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            Yeah a trillion dollar legislation that caused inflation, fucked up the social development of children, destroyed the livelihoods of small business owners. Your damn fucking right, I'm pissed about that. NO AMNESTY FOR LOCKDOWNERS.

            1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES! CARES!

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              "...NO AMNESTY FOR LOCKDOWNERS..."

              Of which Trump wasn't, you pathetic slimy pile of shit.

              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                Kemp was right, while Donny feared the Flu.

                https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/22/trump-kemp-georgia-reopen-coronavirus-202117

                Trump disagrees with Sevo, says only he can lift lockdowns!

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/fact-check-trump-claims-it-s-his-call-when-reopen-n1182836

                1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                  “He must do what he thinks is right. I want him to do what he thinks is right, but I disagree with him on what he is doing,” the president said. He argued that he felt Kemp had moved “just too soon,” and seemed not to rule out federal intervention “if I see something totally egregious, totally out of line.”

                  “I think it’s too soon, and I love the people,” Trump said. “I love those people that use all of those things, the spas, the beauty parlors, the barbershops, tattoo parlors, I love them. But they can wait a little bit longer, just a little bit — not much — because safety has to predominate.”

                  OMG, SO EVIL!

                  1. Chuck P. (Now with less Sarc more snark)   2 months ago

                    Plus there is this in the same article -

                    But the governor has defended his decision throughout the week, despite the pushback, and even Trump on Wednesday morning appeared to cheer on governors who were choosing to reopen their states.

                    So, Trump was actually cheering on reopening before April 22nd, which was 4 weeks into "2 weeks to flatten the curve". Whereas Fauci called it dangerous.

                    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                      Did he fire Fauci? Did he end his executive order declaring an emergency? Did he direct the treasury to stop funding states that violated the religious rights of their citizens?

                      Or did he sign 2 more Covid bills, for a grand total of 5?

                      Going to need more then appeared, so what concrete steps did he make to end the lockdowns?

                    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                      You're dealing with a slimy pile of dishonest shit with a RAGING case of TDS; we can only hope that it's fatal and the world will be a better place without asswipes like that.

                  2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                    Absolutely its evil to harm children by keeping them out of schhol for over a year.

                    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                      It is absolute evil to be a deluded pile of TDS-addled lying shit. Fuck off and die, asswipe.

                2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                  Trump ... says only he can lift lockdowns!

                  Weirdly, I can't find any statement by Trump that says what StupidNotion "interprets" him to say.

                  Maybe SaGN should take CARE of his TDS, for the sake of his long term mental health.

                  1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                    Read the link

                    For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect....

                    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

                      "...Read the link..."

                      And squint just right to come to the same fucked-up delusions this piece of shit does.
                      Fuck off and die, asswipe.

  27. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    In other words, JD Vance is wrong.

    "Vice President J.D. Vance has been out there working overtime to spin it."

  28. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Is the mortgage fraud allegation that's been leveled against Cook merely a pretext designed to cover the fact that Trump is actually firing Cook for illegal political reasons?"

    Yes. That is their MO. Invent a pretext to justify their deeper reason. JD Vance helpfully tells us what their deeper reason is - they think the President should be controlling the money supply instead.

    Trump is not bound by laws, he is bound only by what he thinks he can get away with. And right now he can get away with almost anything because there isn't a strong enough force to tell him to stop. This is what Team Red wants, this is what MAGA wants, this is where we are heading.

    Flashback: Poll finds almost a third of Americans would support a military coup

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/sep/11/military-coup-some-americans-would-vote-yes

    They found that 43% of Republicans would support a military coup in certain instances, while only 20% of Democrats and 29% of independents would.

    It's not just Trump that is the authoritarian. It's a significant chunk of his own base. They don't like democracy, they don't even really like the republican (little-r) form of government. They want rule by strongman (whether it's Trump or some general) who imposes order and stability and their values onto everyone.

    Again I think this goes back to the MAGA nihilism that is dominant. To the extent that MAGA is the extension of the Tea Party protests from 2009-11, maybe they thought at one time that "working within the system" will meet their goals, but I think now, they have given up in working "within the system" and now they want to smash the system.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Poor jeffy.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Poor Jeffy. Now go and commit some felonies and see if you keep your job, even if those felonies were outside work hours.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Job?

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Lol

        2. Chumby   2 months ago

          Sloppy chemist.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Dueling polls:

      Some 44% of "younger Democratic men" favor "assassinating a political figure who is harming the country or our democracy"

      https://www.splcenter.org/resources/stories/poll-finds-support-great-replacement-hard-right-ideas/#partisanship

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "harming the country or our democracy"

        Translation from woke-speak: not letting us impose our progressive agenda.

    4. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Yes. That is their MO. Invent a pretext to justify their deeper reason.

      Peddo jeffy is confused. This is called projection. See, the Leftist handbook is the Leftist handbook for a reason. Just because it's what you would do, doesn't mean it's what was done.

    5. damikesc   2 months ago

      "Yes. That is their MO. Invent a pretext to justify their deeper reason."

      Thankfully, she provided valid reasons. But, I guess some people ARE above the law.

  29. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "his belief that the executive ought to have total power over monetary policy too. "

    Is he really, though? Or is he just trying to eliminate those who have previously exhibited their decidedly political actions (see the referenced "timing of some of the rate changes in the lead-up to the 2024 election"). Sure, he says he thinks that the interest rates should be different, but he's entitled to an opinion.

    I was told by Letitia James that "No one is above the law" no matter how minor the infraction may have been, and that any trivial infraction can be ratcheted up into dozens of inter-related felony charges.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      "I don't think we allow  bureaucrats to make decisions about monetary policy and interest rates without any input from the people that were elected to serve the American people," he added. "POTUS is much better able to make these determinations."

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Trust the experts.

      2. damikesc   2 months ago

        Liberty is having unelected and unaccountable bureaucrats making huge decisions than impact numerous people.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      Wrong. According to lettie James "No one is above the novel legal theory that temporarily changes the law to go after Trump, then changes back, so other new Yorkers don't have to worry about lawfare"

  30. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "Is the mortgage fraud allegation that's been leveled against Cook merely a pretext designed to cover the fact that Trump is actually firing Cook for illegal political reasons?"

    In an alternate world where Cook is a MAGA devotee, the question could be "She should have been fired for here mortgage fraud allegations, but the Trump administration ignored the allegations to allow her to keep her board seat and continue to do Trump's bidding."

  31. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "These children were literally praying as they got shot at."

    What "common sense" gun control law would have prevented THIS incident?

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Maybe Trump should have sent the National Guard.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      More DEI training?

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      A rainbow flag law

    4. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

      Dare ya to say that about Muslims at prayer.

    5. damikesc   2 months ago

      Barring trannies from owning guns.

  32. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    https://x.com/jeremykauffman/status/1961014426460368907
    80% of all crimes are committed by people with 3+ prior arrests.

    Most people are not criminals. A tiny minority are antisocial psychopaths who commit most crimes.

    This is some of the lowest-hanging policy fruit there is.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      80% of all crimes are committed by people with 3+ prior arrests.

      Unpossible. I've been told repeatedly that recidivism isn't a thing and that prisons are a corrective institution, not a punitive one.

  33. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    https://x.com/RMXnews/status/1961358050595422528

    Mohammed is the most common first name for recipients of welfare benefits in Germany.

    The name, when combining all variations, comfortably tops the list by nearly 15,000 recipients.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/08/28/the-economic-case-for-mass-migration-has-never-looked-so-weak/

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Probably no connection at all between these two things.

      https://x.com/MichaelAArouet/status/1950828207596310881

      Michael A. Arouet
      @MichaelAArouet
      Germany has had no growth since 2018. It’s even worse than that, growing government employment masks the self-inflicted implosion of industry. German economic model is structurally broken, more debt without serious reforms won’t change anything. But there are no reforms.

      https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/deu/germany/refugee-statistics

      Germany refugee statistics for 2023 was 2,593,007, a 24.94% increase from 2022.
      Germany refugee statistics for 2022 was 2,075,445, a 65.28% increase from 2021.
      Germany refugee statistics for 2021 was 1,255,694, a 3.73% increase from 2020.
      Germany refugee statistics for 2020 was 1,210,596, a 5.57% increase from 2019.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Well yeah but aren't ignoring the benefit of all of the food trucks?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Nobody needs 23 kinds of falafel.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      The Germans way to keep their "kill all the jews" motto, so they bring in the animal muslims to say it

    4. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      probably nothing to worry about...

  34. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

    I think we know that the "common sense" gun control law line is bullshit. It's a stepping stone to taking away all our guns.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      None of them ever call for repeal of any gun control laws.

      https://ethicsalarms.com/2018/02/16/comment-of-the-day-morning-ethics-warm-up-2-15-18-money-massacres-mudd-and-more/

      – These people claim that we “do nothing” regarding murder. How then, are murderers in prison? Is it just sheer coincidence that they are serving life sentences or on death row? If not, why is punishing murderers not considered “doing something”?

      – “This happens nowhere else”. Does “nowhere else” include Brazil, Jamaica, Mexico, and South Africa?

      – These people claim that no one is talking about banning guns. How then, did guns get banned in Chicago, Illinois, and Washington, D.C.? How did guns get banned in South Carolina in 1902 if no one ever talked about banning guns?

      – These people claim to want “sensible” gun legislation. Why did none of them call for repealing the handgun bans in Chicago and Washington? Or for laws authorizing police to arbitrarily deny permits to carry firearms, even if the applicant meets all objective statutory criteria?

      – Washington, D.C. had a handgun ban in 1976. Were the shootings of Ronald Reagan and James Brady hoaxes? How would such a thing be possible if it was as difficult for John Hinckley to obtain a firearm as it was for Marion Barry to obtain cocaine?

      – These people say that state-level bans do not work because people simply smuggle guns from outside the jurisdiction, and we need national laws. We have national laws on marijuana, and marijuana is smuggled from outside the United States. In order for gun control laws to work, must the United States conquer the whole world? How many servicemen would be willing to fight in a war of conquest for the purpose of disarming Americans at home? How many foreign children would have to be killed to accomplish that objective?

      – Regarding universal background checks, how do they expect the police to catch a crack dealer selling firearms without running background checks if the police can not catch him for selling crack?

      – Kamala Harris, who at the time was the California Attorney General, said “Local law enforcement must be able to use their discretion to determine who can carry a concealed weapon” If so, why should not county clerks like Kim Davis be able to use their discretion to determine who can marry?

      – The United States of America already has the highest rate of imprisonment per capita in the world. How many more prisons would have to be built to accommodate a new population of prisoners who had not even been accused of hurting anyone?

      – The Second Amendment is not the only constitutional provision with adverse public safety implication. While no murder conviction was ever thrown out on Second Amendment grounds, murder convictions have been thrown out on Fourth and Fifth and Sixth Amendment grounds. If these amendments were repealed (or ignored), it would be easier to punish criminals? How many lives would be saved? What would be the price for those lives?

      – More people are killed by black violence than mass shootings. What must be done about blacks? Are the anti-gun violence people willing to abrogate Constitutional protections to go after blacks? If not, what would stop a state that had already abrogated the Constitution regarding the right to keep and bear arms, from doing the same regarding black people?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "No true gun control"?

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

        Kamala Harris, who at the time was the California Attorney General, said “Local law enforcement must be able to use their discretion to determine who can carry a concealed weapon”

        We all dodged such a huge bullet.

        Now do all our other civil rights Kamala. Can a local law enforcement dept decide if i get to have free speech, right to privacy from search and seizures, cruel and unusual punishment? hmm?

  35. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Rev. Al Sharpton leads March on Wall Street protest against Trump administration policies"
    [...]
    "The Rev. Al Sharpton and the National Action Network led a March on Wall Street on Thursday, calling on Americans to resist the Trump administration's campaign to roll back diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives..."
    https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/march-on-wall-street-al-sharpton-dei-nyc-protest/

    Trump isn't nearly racist enough for this racist pile of shit.

  36. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    https://x.com/travis4nh/status/1961319225844269479

    This woman is losing her shit because Americans are finding and applying for job listings that she and her fellow H1-B lawyers are trying to hide from them. They already have bodies from Indian staffing firms at below market rates lined up and don't want Americans to apply.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

      https://x.com/AnnaGorisch/status/1961188471139451284
      Flooding companies with unserious applications just to deny an H-1B worker permanent residence sponsorship is the labor market equivalent of a DDoS attack.

      Every applicant who appears to meet the minimum requirements must be contacted and all communication documented. Resumes might be fake or there may be a key skill they are missing, but no HR department has the capacity to follow up with hundreds of facially qualified applicants, so they just give up.

      These petty assholes are trying to hack a legal process just to spite someone else they know nothing about and have never met.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "These petty assholes are trying to hack a legal process just to spite someone else they know nothing about and have never met."

        The very definition of SJW activists.

      2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        I'm sure she wouldn't mind if the lawyer profession made big steps to hire more H1-B, and less of people like her.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      this makes me laugh so hard.

  37. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

    https://x.com/grok/status/1961448781360369703

    The UK Court of Appeal ruled today (Aug 29, 2025) to allow asylum seekers to remain housed at the Bell Hotel in Epping, Essex, overturning a prior injunction despite local protests. The government used taxpayer funds to win the case. Elon Musk's post suggests this could set a precedent for England.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Raping little girls is just a part of their culture we have to learn to live with.

      https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/08/23/these-migrant-hotel-protests-are-just-the-beginning/

      "The public will not put up with our deranged asylum system any longer."

      The protests began in early July, a few days after an Ethiopian asylum seeker and resident of the Bell had been arrested over the alleged sexual assault of a young girl, and a full five years after the hotel opened to migrants. The people of Epping, as in so many places across the country, clearly aren’t all racists or xenophobes. They simply noticed something that the government would rather they hadn’t. That our asylum system is now so dysfunctional it has become, in no small part, a funnel for illegal migration that is incapable of weeding out dangerous criminals, let alone sorting out the genuine refugees from the chancers. When another Bell asylum seeker, this time from Syria, was also charged with sexual assault just 10 days ago, it only underlined how thoroughly legitimate – to use that irksome, patronising phrase – the concerns of the people of Epping are.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 months ago

        I can think of one very good way to teach the refugees that rape is unacceptable.....

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Neckties made of rope?

  38. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>"Here's another question to ask: Is the mortgage fraud allegation that's been leveled against Cook merely a pretext designed to cover the fact that Trump is actually firing Cook for illegal political reasons?"

    doesn't matter. if you're in the FED arena you shouldn't have three (now) mortgage fraud allegations and two investigations against you ... you did it wrong ... disqualified.

  39. Dillinger   2 months ago

    yes, it's the end of capitalism, Bob Murphy.

  40. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan provides a tidy recent example:..."

    No, it shows how far afield TDS-addled steaming piles of shit will go to support their delusions.

  41. Minadin   2 months ago

    Related: Inside Lisa Cook's social justice warrior past.

    So, they appointed a DEI-hire type SJW to the Federal Reserve - that should be the scandal, not removing her. The fact that she can't manage the mortgage and taxes the way normal people are expected to, let alone members of the Federal Reserve Board, is plenty disqualifying / cause. (And also kind of hilarious)

  42. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    I know it's late but it's Friday so I'm pretty sure Liz will forget by Monday. Or Tuesday if surf's up on Monday. But the story of her FED victim just gets more hilarious with every passing hour. This idiot DEI hire walks into a federal courtroom with the highest priced attorney on the planet and claims that her firing is entirely political. Period. Not once does she deny that she committed mortgage fraud or deny the president's legal authority. Her entire complaint rests on the, unspoken, claim that mortgage fraud is not somehow due cause apparently. Funny shit and yes I'm laughing at you Liz.
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-doj-files-blistering-response-lisa-cook-lawsuit

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      It seems the judiciary will get to avoid the question of whether Congress can restrain presidential aithority to dismiss governors from the Fed.

      (The Supreme Court seems to be leaning towards "unitary executive with exceptions based on text or history", and noted that the Fed was structured like the Bank of the United States, which had some degree of independence from presidential authority.)

  43. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

    "and makes the National Portrait Gallery a little boring when it's the exact type of art that's selected again and again and again."

    Our city has a yearly freeform music competition downtown in BLM/Pride/Ukraine/Palestine ville. Pretty wide variety of acts, mostly rock bands, but a lot of other variety too.

    The winner every year since 2020 has either been some kind of slam poetry or weird new-wave band that ticks one of the following boxes:

    - BIPOC singer, and they make it a point to talk about being proud BIPOC
    - ham-fisted anti-racism messaging
    - ham-fisted pride messaging
    - one of the band members is obviously Trans, and they make it a point to highlight it in their act

    Also, every year pretty much the entire crowd agrees that one of the local rock bands absolutely killed it and hands down won, but those bands are just cis het dudes that play music really well.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      IOWs, the market speaks and the Marxists hand out money to their faves.

  44. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "I know it's late but it's Friday so I'm pretty sure Liz will forget by Monday. Or Tuesday if surf's up on Monday."

    Agreed, and:
    "Trump Wins Supreme Court’s 5-4 Ruling"
    [...]
    "The Supreme Court has allowed the Trump administration to cut $783 million in NIH grants tied to diversity programs, lifting an injunction. Critics have called the move discriminatory and harmful to research. The 5 to 4 ruling permits the administration to continue terminating targeted awards..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wins-supreme-court-s-5-4-ruling/ss-AA1LvOTa?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=68b23e6b0e8b4f00add38ff29f7c90c1&ei=11

    TL,DR:
    Racism, sexism is illegal, you bigoted shit bags. Bring your CV, hand it through a hole and see if you get hired. Period.

  45. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    Let's be clear here: "Sometimes a Great Notion" Is always a lying pile of steaming TDS addled shit.

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