Gavin Newsom's Trolling of Donald Trump Is a Painful Reminder That Politics Can Always Get Dumber
Newsom hired a brass-knuckled social-media team to fight fire with fire, but the result is even more childish nonsense in politics.
Political debates have always been asinine, at least as long as I've been watching "show business for ugly people." The greatest political zingers stick in our minds because 99 percent of the discourse on campaign trails involves politicians spouting pre-packaged platitudes.
I still remember the 1988 vice-presidential debate when Lloyd Bentsen retorted, "Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy," after Dan Quayle compared himself to JFK. My favorite line was from Edwin Edwards in his Louisiana governor's race against former KKK Grand Wizard David Duke: "The only thing we have in common is that we both have been wizards beneath the sheets." Edwards was corrupt (bumper sticker: "Vote for the Crook, It's Important"), but he was authentic and clever.
In the not-so-distant past, politicians—especially at the presidential level—have showed some decorum. Part of Donald Trump's appeal is his rejection of those long-standing ground rules, but his humor is reminiscent of that of a schoolyard bully. He tirelessly trots out dopey insults and types out long, conspiracy-laden all-caps tirades. They seem unintelligent and mean, but are indeed authentic.
Trump has been posting nonsense for years. One recent snippet: "The Smithsonian is OUT OF CONTROL, where everything discussed is how horrible our Country is, how bad Slavery was." He refers to California Gov. Gavin Newsom as "Newscum." MAGA denizens love it. They roast people who suggest it's unbecoming. GOP officials are mum—or mimic Trump's style.
Democrats keep taking Trump's bait, expressing outrage and playing politics by the Marquis of Queensberry rules. Democrats often play dirty and do so here in California regularly, given their supermajorities, but they currently are outmatched by Trump's backyard-brawl tactics and keep getting shivved during these street fights. So Newsom hired a brass-knuckled social-media team to fight fire with fire—and he has gotten Trump's and MAGA's attention.
The fracas is hilarious. I'm not proud to say so, given that I don't approve of this childish nonsense and believe civility—even if it's just a pretense—is crucial for a healthy democracy. Nevertheless, Newsom's posts are hitting a nerve because they replicate Trump's style, language, insults, and doltish phrasing ("WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER.")
Here's an example: "WOW! FOX NEWS CAN'T STOP TALKING ABOUT ME (GAVIN C. NEWSOM), AMERICA'S FAVORITE GOVERNOR!!! TONIGHT THEIR ENTIRE PRIMETIME LINEUP WAS ABOUT ME! JESSE WATTERS KEPT CALLING ME 'DADDY' (VERY WEIRD, NOT INTERESTED, BUT THANK YOU!). … FOX & MAGA HAVE NEWSOM DERANGEMENT SYNDROME!!! THEY SHOULD CRY HARDER! SAD!!! — GCN."
Trump's White House account (and independent MAGA accounts) have this creepy habit of posting AI-generated images of Trump as Superman, or as some buff hero reminiscent of those New Soviet Man posters from the past. I suppose it's just trolling, albeit of an unhealthy sort, but Newsom has responded in kind. He posted an image of Hulk Hogan (with angel wings), Tucker Carlson and Kid Rock laying hands on Newsom. Many pro-Trump voices seem to have taken the bait with a seeming lack of self-awareness.
"You have to stop at with the Twitter thing. If I were his wife, I would say you are making a fool of yourself, stop it.…He's got a big job as governor of California but if he wants an even bigger job, he has to be a little more serious," said one Fox News host about Newsom's antics.
Well, yeah. But there's someone else who has a big job and ought to be a little more serious, and I don't see any evidence of Fox or Republicans saying the same thing about him.
And, yeah, since the nation has devolved to grade-school standards, I'll say the obvious: Trump started it. There is, in fact, a difference between someone who seriously posts taunting nonsense and someone who does the exact same thing in the exact same way to highlight how stupid it is. Again, I don't like any of this devolving discourse. Newsom is a lackluster governor who has doubled down on progressive policies and has failed to competently address California's myriad crises.
But the governor's trolling approach is paying off politically. Suddenly, Newsom has risen to the top of the potential 2028 presidential pack as he garners social-media hits and gets Democrats excited. None of this helps Californians who are hoping to see policies that deal with homelessness, overregulation, poor schools, crime, and congestion. (In fairness, he's been pretty good on housing.) But Democrats want someone who fights back rather than gives self-righteous marathon speeches or just fades away.
Here we are, as bad behavior begets bad behavior. It's going to get nastier as the nation stumbles toward the mid-term congressional elections (redistricting shenanigans, anyone?) and then the next presidential one. There won't be a bottom until Americans resurrect some ground rules and enforce them against any violators (even on their own side). Thank you for your attention to this matter.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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Newsom is such a dbag.
I think a lot of people in California wish they had a governor instead of someone traveling around the country bashing Trump because he want's to run for President. I can't wait to see Newsome try to defend what he has done to the state if he declares his candidacy.
Counterpoint: lots of Californians are glad for every second he spends bashing Trump either through political agreement or because it's a second he spent not running California. I mean, just look what he's accomplished, we need a long break from that kind of thing.
Exactly this. We would all be better off if every politician would take a 5-year sailing trip around the globe.
Oh, well. There is that I guess. Good point.
So, you are saying that Californians will vote for Newsome for president not because they think he would make a good president, but to get rid of him?
I think he's saying that they don't like him making a mess of CA and they are simply happy he is distracted from his destruction of the state.
Unfortunately for them, the damage he has caused compounds daily. If he repealed all of the retardation before galivanting around, they might be happier.
I think a lot of people in California wish they had a governor instead of someone traveling around the country bashing Trump because he want's to run for President.
A lot of people in Florida had the same thoughts about Ron DeSantis in 2023. But just like they were back then in Florida, people with those thoughts are in the minority in California.
And yet they elected him in 2022 with a massive margin.
And Florida is able to rebuild after hurricanes while CA cannot handle fires at all.
...correction: Florida WANTS to help its citizens. CA does not.
How dare you compare that POS to decent dirt bags!
Please do not insult D-bags.
They have an important purpose in life...unlike Gruesome Newsom.
There are several groups that hate Newsom:
1. Israelhaters on the Left.
2. Israelhaters on the Right.
3. MAGA trolls who resent him using the same tactics as their Cult Leader.
4. MAGA trolls who are scared that he actually might defeat Vance in 2028 because he has actually been a pretty successful Governor.
5. NIMBYs who are upset that there might be an accessory dwelling unit next door.
6. Republicans who are upset that Newsom is likely to cancel the effects of Texas's gerrymandering.
There is a lot of overlap across these groups, although group 1 probably only overlaps with group 5 and no others.
3. MAGA trolls who resent him using the same tactics as their Cult Leader.
LOL, MAGA doesn't resent him using these tactics, you neocon vermin. It's so transparently fake and desperate that it's impossible not to laugh at it.
Only cuckservative retards think this is some kind of W, because the only rhetorical tactics they understand are "just imagine if ___________ did this!" At least MAGA understands that the political double standard is the whole point of the left's dialectic. Such insight continues to evade you soooper dooooper smrt sages for some reason.
6. Republicans who are upset that Newsom is likely to cancel the effects of Texas's gerrymandering.
No Republicans are upset about this. All it does is open the door for them to gerrymander further in red states, which is the whole fucking point of the provocation after decades of Democrats openly gerrymandering in states they control.
Neocons are so fucking politically clueless. No wonder you morons lost the party to Trump.
You just described a Jew using the same language Hitler used.
I don't give monkey's dick if you're Jewish, chuckles. You are a neocon, and you are vermin. That's immaterial to your ethnic background. You're just pissed that you can't jawbone me into shutting up with your boilerplate power words.
Pro tip: name calling doesn’t magically become worse because you happen to be Jewish. And trying to play that smear game makes you the asshole.
Yeah, Democrats. It's hard to find a single American state that isn't already heavily gerrymandered, red, blue or plaid. The Texholes are just being more blatant than usual, and I really hope they get a good bitch slapping in the courts.
Yeah, we know, you hate it when Dems get a dose of their "liberating tolerance."
"4. MAGA trolls who are scared that he actually might defeat Vance in 2028 because he has actually been a pretty successful Governor."
In, uh, what way exactly?
After repeated warnings about his abysmal forestry policies, he allowed a fire to burn out of control and then sat back and allowed the victims of the fire to not be allowed to rebuild. Homelessness has increased exponentially under him. CA is bleeding residents.
He is similar to Kamala --- advanced forward in spite of no track record of success whatsoever.
Like I said on this a few days ago, Newsom's actual personality is so unctuous and repulsive, and the Democrats are so desperate for ANY kind of W with their support cratering by the day, that the best they can do now is imitate Trump to get any kind of political traction.
It's not going to work because this is how Trump has ALWAYS been. It's who he is. All the Dems are doing is admitting that they don't have jack shit to offer policy-wise that anyone other than the most radical retards support, so maybe if they imitate Trump, people will support them in contravention of any actual policies they might hold.
They don't fucking get it. The GOP voters supported Trump SPECIFICALLY because they wanted someone who at least acted like he gave a shit about their concerns, and more importantly, would shove the pompous, snarky attitudes of the Democrats and their media enablers right back in their faces. The Dems hate him for no other reason than he doesn't give a shit about their emotionally manipulative tactics and political double standards, and don't know how to deal with someone who gives them a taste of their own "liberating tolerance." The cuckservative right can't handle him because he isn't a milquetoast who's willing to conserve the left's ongoing cultural and political power in exchange for a few bromides about Israel and gauzy nonsense about "the shining city on a hill."
Aping Trump just reveals how fake and gay these people all really are.
Bwaa-haaa-haaa!!!! Nice rant, bro! Give us another!!
Thanks for admitting you have no counter, retard. No wonder your side has to pay a fat lesbian $20 million to figure out how to connect with men, and your best political hope is imitating Trump.
Newsome and Trump, two biggest scumbag lockdowners, should be forced to share a cell for 10 to 15.
I would put them in 2 different categories. Newsome knew exactly what he was doing and loved the power to do it. Trump was talked into it by naively believing what his government scientists were telling him. Newsome still thinks he was completely right but I doubt Trump would go down that same road again. I hope we don't have to test that, though
Trump also didn't joyfully and happily violate the lockdown rules he implemented. Newsom very much did.
Trump also did not have people, far away from the shore with nobody nearby, arrested.
Trump idiotically believed fascists.
Newsom IS a fascist.
I'd agree with that. Trump has shown, I think, that he learned a great deal about government the first time around. He appears to no longer believe that Government is there to help Americans but rather is full of people that want to help themselves at the expense of Americans. Like Trump or not, he isn't stupid and can learn from mistakes. His present cabinet vs the one in his first term is an example.
You forgot Joe Biden.
And, yeah, since the nation has devolved to grade-school standards, I'll say the obvious: Trump started it.
Anybody else remember when Clarence Thomas allegedly "found a pubic hair on his Coke can"?
Apparently, at one point, Abe Lincoln almost started a duel for taunting an IL State Auditor by writing a letter to the local editor, posing as a woman and mocking the Auditor's prowess with women.
For all the false narratives from stodgy conservatives about social strictures, Greenhut seems to be play acting as the adult in the room without ever having met or read about any of the other actual adults in the room.
And, yeah, since the nation has devolved to grade-school standards, I'll say the obvious: Trump started it.
If thats the price we pay for ripping the mask off the deep state, media collusion with dems, total moral and policy bankruptcy of the D's, Academia, bureaucracy, etc. Exposing the complete corruption of deep state intelligence agencies - then i'd say its worth it. At least now the public has a choice. If it decides not to drain the swamp and go back to 'norms' (which have been exposed as elitist and corrupt) the the public gets what it deserves and the republic's days are numbered. It will be a conscious choice that cannot be excused because noone has an excuse for not knowing what they were choosing - and that is Trump's legacy, his gift to the American public.
I think you managed to list just about ever MAGA conspiracy and lie.
You’ve proven all of his points right here in the comments, doc.
Thank you Ersatz for getting right to the core problem. You are right on the money on all points. Bravo!
Hilariously wrongheaded and insane diatribe, bro! Keep burning the candle for mental illness.
Speaking from experience, retard?
Time to open the bomb bay doors, you are DIRECTLY over the target.
And pay no mind to the sudden, intense FLAK - it's just plastic foam. The usual panic.
Been two days.
Sarc had no problem with this.
Weird.
I don't read his shit, but I can see the name who I'm blocking and he is not here.
Thomas didn't find it, Anita found it. It was a test run for unfounded allegations smearing someone to prevent them from a successful nomination. Didn't work on Thomas but Dems keep at it. I think the efficacy crested with that doofus college professor wearing those crooked glasses and talking like a valley girl making such outrageous and unfounded claims she has been totally forgotten.
It's OK because republicans did it first.
wait...
It’s ok because American politics has ALWAYS been “grade school standards”.
Greenhut, per usual, is just flat wrong.
*Democrats keep taking Trump's bait, expressing outrage and playing politics by the Marquis of Queensberry rules...*
Hahahhahhahhahahhahha!
I never met this Marquis of Queensbury, but he must have been quite the prick if it's his rules the Democrats have been following. A few recent reminders:
-Pushing any false allegation possible against Republican nominees for the SC, up to and including gang rape;
-Telling black people Mitt Romney, of all people, wanted to put them back in chains;
-Telling you Republican governors were trying to murder grandma because they refused to stomp on the constitution, destroy your business and abuse your children during Covid;
-Going on super decorumy purveyors of decorum like Arsenio Hall, Stephen Colbert, The View, Between Two Ferns, etc, with the explicit agreement it will be treated as a campaign fundraiser;
-Speaking of which, renting out the Lincoln bedroom to foreing nationals for campaign contributions. Oh and while you're at it, mouth fucking your college intern in the next room. I guess that's less terrible than double teaming an equally young girl with your brother in the WH pool, but the Kennedys have a knack for taking it up a notch when it comes to women...
I could go on, but I have shit to do today. Go home and clean your pearls, Greenhut. They're covered in clutch marks.
The Zomblog is full of examples of how Democrats behaved towards President George W. Bush
Beware NSFW
https://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=621
If the best Newsome's hired media consultants can come up with is to copy Trumps Truth Social tweets then Newsome is in serious trouble. He has destroyed his state so I guess he has to try something to draw attention away from that fact. Hell, Newsome just mocked Bed, Bath and Beyond for not opening a store in his state due to the business climate Newsome and the Dems have created so I guess he doesn't want companies to locate there.
Hey, Newsome. About that $100 Million raised for the fire victims that you handed out to various NGO's. How much has actually gone to the victims of the fires? Where is the money? How many houses have gotten the permits to rebuild?
That $100 million ended up as you stated. In the hands of liberal/ Marxist NGOs.
Democrats and corruption go hand to hand.
" He has destroyed his state"
Huh? The three safest large cities in the US are in his state.
This fact causes MAGA snowflakes to melt.
Cali has a high violent crime rate. Just because some of its cities are a little safer than even more violent Democratic Party controlled cities doesn’t mean its violent crime rate is good because it is bad.
Yeah, you hardly ever hear about dozens of subhumans armed with crowbars robbing malls anymore.
Not even Molly is dumb enough to believe that, yet you continue to repeat it.
Trump is Trump and all that implies, and he’s serving his second term as POTUS.
Does anyone, beyond the California coast, take Newsome seriously? Given his track record as governor I for one think he would make an excellent Democratic candidate to ensure
another Republican administration. Possibly even better than Harris.
I doubt many outside of the elite enclaves on the coast and some msm newsrooms take him any more seriously than they do Walz who for some reason won't take the hint and go away.
After what has happened recently in L.A. I don't believe anyone in California takes him seriously. Or at least they shouldn't.
Always fun to see the world from the TDS addled vision of Greenhut the Leftist propagandist. How'd the basis for those impeachments turn out you dishonest POS?
I really think Newsome is missing the point. People don't like Trump because of mean tweets, they like him because he's for real. As a wise man once said, sure Trump is an asshole but sometimes we need an asshole. I would also point out that Trump has a free wheeling news conference pretty much every day where you can see the real guy while Newsome stages scripted performances. He also has consistently established alliances with former adversaries some of whom are now cabinet members and it looks like he's mended fences with Musk. Newsome is a low IQ politician.
I watched an interview with Newsom several months ago and it was very concerning. His use of hand movements indicated some very wrong going on with him.
Never trust anyone who uses such hand gestures.
I would ask a psychiatrist to view that video and note his reactions.
Narcissism? Psychopathy? It was very disturbing to watch.
The only thing real about Trump is his stupidity. Everything else is fake.
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Certainly Trump is authentic, he is as narcissistic and ignorant as he sounds. What I find amazing in his authenticity is the number of people who would vote for Trump and yet never hire him for their own business. I don't see Newsom as inauthentic but rather as parody. What I do find inauthentic is ivy league educated Republicans who attempt to mimic Trump.
"What I find amazing in his authenticity is the number of people who would vote for Trump and yet never hire him for their own business."
you could say this about any politician ... they are the absolute lowest forms of life and always have been
if you don't like pandering to idiots you don't like politics ... that has been the game forever
who are these republicans that try to mimic Trump? I'm not seeing it... I think its the Dems and their call for using F-bombs and generally being more profane and confrontational that are 'trying' this. But maybe I'm missing something...
But it is a fact the Dems (and/or dem strategists and supporters) that actually called for and cheer the act of being more profane etc.
who are these republicans that try to mimic Trump? I'm not seeing it...
Pretty much the only one left is MTG. Even Boebert's shifted her publicity-hounding after she switched districts to a safer seat. And the reason is because they know that they can't engage like Trump.
Let's start close the top with JD Vance who went to Yale Law School and who was mentored by one of America's Tech Billionaires. JD Vance had harshly criticized Trump in the past. Now he trying to look stupid to please Trump. JD Vance is smart enough to know what a fiasco that Alaska meeting with Russia was and he is smart enough to understand tariffs. Yet he pretends to be dumb so he doesn't outshine Trump.
You said “mimic Trump”. Towing the party line/not contradicting your immediate superior is not mimicry. Goddamn man.
His moderation includes "understanding the meaning of words"
Who hired Obama for their business?
And why would Trump be available for hire rather than running his own businesses?
Or are these all 'unnamed sources' that told you they'd never hire Trump (in your head)?
First Trump could only start a business with the millions his father gave him. Who would hire a person who is lazy, insulting, and functionally illiterate Trump? You might hire an undocumented worker in front of Home Deposit who is illiterate in English, but they will work hard and not insult you.
What businesses did Biden start?
Obama?
Predictable.
Pure 'Democrats/cy' has always been a "[WE] Identify-as RULES" gangland politics premise.
Maybe, just maybe, the biggest curse behind all of this was forgetting the USA is a *Constitutional* Republic. NOT a 'democracy'.
The U.S. Is Both a Republic and a Democracy
The United States is not a direct democracy...But we are a representative democracy, which is a form of democracy.
--Eugene Volokh
The problem with democracy is that it is not minority friendly.
Lefty-Propaganda.
The only 'democracy' is subject specific-parts in the Supreme Law.
A Tire is Not a Car.
"Democracy are two wolves and a lamb debating what to have for lunch. Liberty is the lamb contesting the vote with a loaded gun." Benjamin Franklin
"Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%." Thos. Jefferson
Maybe there's some confusion that I am arguing that the US should be a democracy. I'm not. I'm arguing it IS a democracy; a representative democracy.
I am trying to out-pedantize the would-be pedants that argue "the US is not a democracy, but a republic." It is both.
Yes, tyranny of the majority is a real thing. That doesn't change the fact that the US is a democracy (and has quite a bit of tyranny of the majority to prove it).
If you're trying to argue that the US is a republic in the way the USSR is a republic. OK. We're headed there if not quite there yet, but that's not the ostensible form of the nation in the Constitution.
Right. There's no sense in arguing about a difference between a 'democracy' and a representative 'democracy' (i.e. republic).
It is the *CONSTITUTION* as a Supreme Law that is the important part.
The people's Supreme Law over their government.
This I can agree with.
Sorry, but democracies do not have any minority protections.
the more outraged you are by trump ... the more virtue you have
Look at the two minutes hate scene in the 1984 move. It's very much like TDSers ranting at an image of Trump.
It would be great to get the MAGAs down to two minutes of hate instead of being at it 24/7.
lol, look in a mirror, doc.
You should hear what Gavin "jazz hands' Newsom has been saying lately about crime and Trump now. He can't grovel enough.
A total loser if ever there was one.
Time to kick the four families out of California before they wreck it completely.
Or is it too late?
It’s too late.
He's not just mimicking him on social media. He's doing it in real life too.
https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/08/28/governor-newsom-deploys-new-teams-to-fight-crime-in-major-california-cities-building-on-existing-successful-efforts/
This should be fun.
"Trump policing DC bad. Gavin policing CA good." Right dorks?
Trump using the military to police, bad. Gavin using police to police, meh. This is another example of MAGA simple thinking.
He's not using the military to police.
You keep repeating this lie.
It’s all she can do.
One step closer to to internecine Roman Family style solutions.
Time to bring back Codes Duello.
If Trump is authentic then we are in more trouble than we think. I remember in 2015 people were gushing about how Trump "tells it like it is". Notice they don't say that any more after the 100,000 lies or so. Now folks are claiming he is authentic? Authentically narcissicistic? Authentically delusional? Authentically a jerk?
According to some theories we all have an Id that we supress with a super ego or a conscience. Trump comes across as all Id and no conscience. In a sense, his being a jerk is authen tic. By why the heck would we want that guy in power? It makes no sense.
Newsome is drawing attention to this and that's fine. Unfortunately, it is resulting in this authenticity nonsense proving once again we are caught in a hall-of-mirrors hellscape that is Trumpism. The only result is that we will all fall to nihilism. If his supporters keep condoning this crap what is the point anymore?
Newsom now spends time groveling before Trump in his new found penchant for law and order.
people were gushing
they don't say
folks are claiming
According to some theories
Give this a read:
7 Types of Weasel Words
Apply that to any Trump speech while you're at it. How often does he appeal to some non-existent authority or claim a provably false level of popularity for his position?
Being aware of "weasel words" and other propaganda techniques is not going to help a person be more rational in their politics if they only look for those techniques in what the 'other side' says and does. It really would just be falling deeper into their own confirmation bias.
How often does he appeal to some non-existent authority or claim a provably false level of popularity for his position?
About as often as your side, I reckon. But that's immaterial. Heraclitus is clearly just trying to add a patina of legitimacy to his ongoing desperation that his side can't get any kind of political traction, and their long-standing rhetorical tactics aren't working anymore.
Why would we want Biden in power?
Why would we want Harris in power?
We want Trump because we've seen the alternatives. The 'right people' don't exist, we have to choose between the alternatives presented, not the alternatives we wished were presented.
Republican primary voters had choices other than Trump.
"Gavin Newsom's Trolling of Donald Trump Is a Painful Reminder That Politics Can Always Get Dumber."
Yes, politics can always get dumber as Gruesome Newsom has proven time and again during his reign of error.
"Reign of error"....an excellent and fitting description.
Stupid is infinite.
Gavin Newsom is a member of the four families that have ruled California for the past 80 years. The family includes the Browns, Pelosi , Newsom and Getty. The first three families are related while the Gettys are not yet they provide funding to the other three.
Did you know that 4 families have run California for over 80 years?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MGbkDGOAC8
http://www.youtube.com
Okay which family were Earl Warren, Goodwin Knight, Ronald Reagan, George Deukmejian, Pete Wilson, Gray Davis, and Arnold Schwarzenegger members of?
Pelosi's family is actually from Maryland. Her father and brother were Mayors of Baltimore and her father also served in Congress. She didn't move to California until 1969.
Lord Newsom like all Progressives wants America to be a one party nanny state.
In the not-so-distant past, politicians—especially at the presidential level—have showed some decorum. Part of Donald Trump's appeal is his rejection of those long-standing ground rules, but his humor is reminiscent of that of a schoolyard bully. He tirelessly trots out dopey insults and types out long, conspiracy-laden all-caps tirades. They seem unintelligent and mean, but are indeed authentic.
Why do voters prefer a candidate that is "authentic" to one that can speak in complete sentences and sound like they understand what they are saying? And why is voters' perception of them as being "authentic" not broken when they are proven to be lying?
I think the answer is that voters that look positively on a candidate that is "authentic" aren't actually looking for them to be "honest" in any normal use of the word. They are looking for a candidate that makes them feel good. They want a candidate that validates what they feel, and that confirmation that their feelings are justified is interpreted as the candidate being "authentic". In sum, it isn't really about the candidate, but themselves.
Because the ones that can do that are just power-mongers. They'll do anything for ever more power. Not a single one of them has done anything good for the country.
Now, I know you're going to say 'but Trump! is the same way' - except Trump is funny.
Would you rather have the country 'respectfully' driven into the ground by Obama or at least get some entertainment out of it as its being destroyed by President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho?
Now, I know you're going to say 'but Trump! is the same way' - except Trump is funny.
Not to me, he isn't. Not even in a laugh at him kind of way.
Would you rather have the country 'respectfully' driven into the ground by Obama or at least get some entertainment out of it as its being destroyed by President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho?
Blatant false dichotomy. The choice isn't between Apocalypse type T and Apocalypse type O. Even just for the presidency, there are primaries first, and there are the minor parties* to choose from. Then, there are 535 members of Congress to choose. You know, the ones that actually write the laws, appropriate money from the Treasury, give "advice and consent" to all of the top executive branch officials, federal judges, etc.
*The two party duopoly is a product of exactly this kind of false binary thinking, not an essential feature of democratic governance. Although, single member legislative districts + first past the post elections also make it hard for there to be more than two viable parties.
"The two party duopoly is a product of exactly this kind of false binary thinking, not an essential feature of democratic governance. "
False dilemma and No True Scotsman.
Well, Romney showed decorum. He was accused of killing people and trying to enslave black people.
Fuck your decorum. It was always only a one way street.
Newsom is the Sarcasmic of real-life trolling.
Hey, that isn’t fair to Newsom. He’s not a drunk. He has employment. And I don’t think CPS was ever called on him.
Yeah, he’s all better now:
https://www.sfgate.com/politics/article/Gavin-Newsom-says-alcohol-isn-t-a-problem-12858726.php
Mind you, his “drinking” was his excuse when Newsom boning his campaign manager’s wife came to light.
Newsom is just another elected political gangster whose sole emphasis is power and control.
Newsom is a POS with no chance of winning an election that the California Democrat Machine doesn’t control.
Loyal, obedient Greenhut explains this dumpster fire of a man’s latest antics with “you see, he’s using OrangeHitler’s moves against him, and ha ha it sure is pissing off MAGA!”. Pathetic.
And imagine still getting a woody from fucking Lloyd Bentsen dunking on Dan Quayle. Happier times, eh Greenhut?
>Newsom hired a brass-knuckled social-media team
Uhm, what?
No he didn't? Have you *seen* these two Greenhut? They're a low-end OF model and a dude who's whole look is 'kid who get's bullied in a movie'.
And they can't even do a good job of slinging zingers. They've been pantsed by replies pretty regularly as they set traps that they then step in themselves.
They've been compared to Wiley Coyote.
That's not something that is compatible with 'brass knuckled'.
>Democrats keep taking Trump's bait, expressing outrage and playing politics by the Marquis of Queensberry rules.
This is written by someone who pays absolutely no attention to 'show business for ugly people'.
Have you not seen, Greenhut, all the idiots on the Left - like Jasmine Crockett - who have taken obscenity as their thing? Corey Booker with his cringe antics?
Yeah, they're taking after Trump, no doubt. But they suck at it. They come across as insincere or asinine. And its all cringe. Not a single funny line among the group of them.
And remember - Trump's only around for 3 more years and then you get to have Vance. Vance is cool. He isn't crude like Trump but he can rofltstomp (and has been) these people.
Then you'll be crying even harder that the President isn't like your precious Obama.
>elieve civility—even if it's just a pretense—is crucial for a healthy democracy.
Civility got us a flood of illegals. It got us Covid and the Covid response. It got us the government coercing social media platforms to push the government line and suppress others. It got us BLM. It got us transgender insanity. It got us a damaged economy.
If civility brought us to this, of what use is civility?
What's funny is you never hear these people complain about Jasmine Crockett.
She comes by it authentically too. But she still comes off as an ignorant self-obsessed idiot with nothing useful for anyone else, and cringe AF.
Trump meanwhile can be funny as hell. Charming. Ten times more charming than that pig from Green Acres;)
That woman is a total carpet bagger. There’s nothing authentic about pretending to be hood when you grew up rich and privileged.
Trump's uniqueness makes him impossible to replicate. His rise to prominence was largely due to his boldness and willingness to challenge the status quo, which resonated with the country at a particular moment in time. While other politicians, like Newsom, may possess or appear to posses more traditional qualifications, such as policy expertise and patience, the country was looking for something different - a disruptor who could shake up the establishment... he country needed someone to come in and insult, topple and break the old establishment. Trump is that person, Newsom is the opposite of that person.
Trump's uniqueness makes him impossible to replicate.
That won't stop politicians from trying. It won't keep the ones that try from being dangerous. It won't prevent them from figuring out what made Trump appealing to voters and then adapting that to fit their own personalities. It won't stop them from seeing what media tactics worked (that don't depend on Trump's uniqueness) to increase and reinforce Trump's support and using those techniques in the service of other candidates.
Besides, Trump wasn't elected because of his uniqueness. He was elected because enough voters wanted someone like him.
His rise to prominence was largely due to his boldness and willingness to challenge the status quo, which resonated with the country at a particular moment in time.
That's one explanation. I'm sure you realize that it is an explanation that is favorable to both Trump and his base of supporters. I'm sure you also realize that it is a single explanation being applied to almost 100 million voters as if they all had the same or even similar reasons for voting for him.
The victory of very few candidates can be explained with a single motivating factor like that. My subjective experience is that most candidates win because they appeal to multiple large factions of voters, and that it is often the case that some of those factions actually oppose each other on some important issues. But they make temporary allowances or alliances in order to accomplish something even more important to them.
If Trump appealed to you because you saw him as being "bold" and willing "to challenge the status quo," someone that would be "a disruptor who could shake up the establishment," and that you wanted someone that would "come in and insult, topple, and break the old establishment," then that explains your support for him. It would require more than your assertion to attribute those same motivations to Trump voters more generally. (Maybe I'm presuming that you support him when that isn't accurate, but your words sound very supportive.)
Brad, you are right on the money. Nobody had to like Trump to realize he was the only candidate moving in the right direction to expose and take down a thoroughly corrupt establishment. And I'd wager he is just as surprised as we are with his level of success. In fact he's been so successful that he caused the corrupt to expose themselves!
No, no one has to adore Donald Trump to enjoy watching the elitists weeping and gnashing their teeth as the chickens come home to roost. But I do hope enough people have their eyes open so we can finish the job, take the win, and calm the fuck down.
I've read a few of the Newsom twits and found them mostly painfully unfunny.
As for Trump being "authentic", all I can say is that authentic bullshit is still bullshit.
The 2030 Census is expected to resulting in reallocating perhaps ten or so congressional seats and electoral votes away from blue states and towards red ones. National politics will substantially be in the hands of the south from 2032 onwards. So, 2028 is probably the Democrats’ last good chance to elect a real kook to the presidency so they will probably nominate one. It just might be Newsom, though hopefully the rest of the country will have enough sense to reject him.