Looks Like We Found a Ham Sandwich a Grand Jury Won't Indict
A federal grand jury reportedly refused to indict Sean Dunn for hurling a hoagie at a federal law enforcement officer.

The New York Times reported today that federal prosecutors failed to secure a grand jury indictment against Sean Dunn, the Washington, D.C., man who was arrested earlier this month after he hurled a Subway sandwich at a Customs and Border Protection officer.
Dunn's act of defiance against the Trump administration's occupation of D.C. with National Guard and federal law enforcement officers earned him viral fame—and an arrest warrant executed by 20 officers in riot gear (and a White House film crew).
As Reason's Billy Binion wrote, the "disproportionate response to [Dunn's] offense epitomizes why Trump's plan appears to be, at least for now, more political theater than a real solutions-oriented approach" to crime in D.C.
And the grand jury's decision in his case shows the deep unpopularity of the federal takeover of D.C.'s streets. Dunn's case is the second recent case where prosecutors for the U.S. Attorney's Office for D.C. failed to convince a local grand jury to return an indictment for felony assault on a federal law enforcement officer. Prosecutors failed to convince three different grand juries to indict a woman accused of assaulting an FBI agent, forcing prosecutors to refile the case as a misdemeanor.
Federal prosecutors can try again to convince another grand jury to indict Dunn, but of course, they then risk being further embarrassed. The Times called the grand jury's decision in Dunn's case a "remarkable failure" by the U.S. Attorney's Office and a "sharp rebuke."
Not bound by the Times' style guide and decorum, I can explain it to federal prosecutors more bluntly: They're clowning on you. They don't respect you, and they don't want you there.
D.C. residents, because they live in a federal district, may be under the administration's thumb, but thanks to the right to jury trials, they still have access to a powerful check on excessive and unpopular prosecutions: jury nullification.
Jury nullification is when a juror refuses to find guilt or indict someone due to moral objection to the law or charges in question, regardless of whether the defendant is guilty or not. As George Mason University law professor Ilya Somin wrote at The Volokh Conspiracy in 2018, nullification undermines the rule of law in a system where the criminal codes are more or less uniformly applied, but in the real world it has become, unfortunately, "a counterweight to the enormous discretionary power already wielded by government officials."
By turning D.C. prosecutions into a public relations campaign, the White House is delegitimizing itself in the eyes of D.C. jurors and, counterproductively, giving them the means to fight back.
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I suppose this means that Trump defenders oppose jury nullification, and anyone who doesn't is a leftist.
Poor sarcbot.
Poor his daughter. Imagine the trauma of being raised by an alcoholic loser that did enough wrong to necessitate a CPS visit.
So your argument is that I'm now free to throw ham subs and boneless porkchops at Muslims?
Why waste good pork? Throw vegan sausages and tell them it's pork.
Reason citing Reason!
*drink*
And the grand jury's decision in his case shows the deep unpopularity of the federal takeover of D.C.'s streets.
Or it shows that they think making a federal case out of a ham sandwich is a gross misuse of an already overburdened justice system.
Which, frankly, it is, because now we've got all these rounded up DC criminals (not to mention nationwide illegal aliens) to prosecute.
D.C. residents, because they live in a federal district, may be under the administration's thumb
and able walk around in broad daylight again without a 50/50 chance of being randomly murdered. When's the last time a murder happened in DC again? What's it been two whole weeks now?
Idiot. DC doesn't have a 50 percent homicide rate. And there was a homicide yesterday.
Self own
I didn't say it had a 50% homicide rate.
Literacy is your friend, Chaz.
Trump should pull all troops out and allow them to kill each other. Fuck 'em.
The failed indictments and dropped charges are showing that NG can't help law enforcement other than show.
If Trump wanted to reduce crime in DC he would increase the size of the Park Police, give DC money to increase the size of the Metropolitan Police, and fill the ninety vacant Assistant US Attorney positions. But he is firing prosecutors, cutting the Interior Department budget, and needs to falsely pretend that the Metropolitan Police are incompetent.
Fuck the residents. Should have never permitted anybody to live there in the first place.
There was a 16 day period earlier this year with no homicides in DC, from Feb. 25 to March 12. Despite none of Trump's performative stunts.
A 50/50 chance? Do you fucks ever stop lying and using hyperbole to try and win. What a sad sad cult you TDS fucks are.
"As Reason's Billy Binion wrote, the "disproportionate response to [Dunn's] offense epitomizes why Trump's plan appears to be, at least for now, more political theater than a real solutions-oriented approach" to crime in D.C."
So, if Trumps plan is not a real solution then why has crime in DC dropped like a rock?
The problem isn't that the clown hurling the sandwich isn't guilty, the video is right there to see, it's that he was overcharged. Yes, it was assault and he will get prosecuted and convicted for a misdemeanor assault but it was assault with a deadly weapon unless the soldier is lactose intolerant and the cheese sent him into shock.
Thought experiment: What if the soldier was a Muslim and the Ham Sub was thrown at him. Would the thrower be charged with a hate crime?
The prosecutor can indict the ham sandwich.
Guess it is ok for thousands of people to do the same to Nancy Pelosi, Liz Warren, or say an ENB while also shouting, “Make me a fucking sammich you mere woman.”
Of course, Sarc “But the Dems did it first” casmic used hands on his daughter which resulted in a call to and a visit from CPS. Allegedly per Sarcles the diminutive.
Of course, Sarc “But the Dems did it first” casmic used hands on his daughter which resulted in a call to and a visit from CPS. Allegedly per Sarcles the diminutive.
You're so desperate, and have absolutely nothing of substance to say, that you resort to insults like this? And BTW your first sentence was also retarded (the favorite MAGA insult) since it was incoherent and had nothing to do with the article or nothing to do with anything at all.
Don't bother donating your brain to science once you eventually commit suicide - there's nothing there to benefit humanity.
Yeah ok there, sockasmic.
His first sentence was coherent and completely related to the article. Poor stupid sarc.
>>And the grand jury's decision in his case shows the deep unpopularity of the federal takeover of D.C.'s streets.
no, the grand jury's decision shows the defendant was overcharged.
The overcharging is a major part of the takeover.
overactive sycophantic federal prosecutors are not in the streets.
>>I served on a federal grand jury
telling you have experience and still go with "the takeover"
Never mind
Pirro herself said that overcharging is part of the takeover. You are calling her a liar.
You know who else was overcharged?
All of those exploding Tesla batteries?
This is the same jury pool that let many corrupt bureaucrats off for crimes. It just shows d.c. is a political hellhole and it's residents choose politics over equality of the law.
Amazed reason is ignorant to this fact. This isnt the only example.
Democrats see the law as a tool for them to use and abuse. That's it.
Yeah a DC jury will always be 90% Democrats. It's simple math and relevant to the conversation.
And actively try to get on juries while pleading ignorance to the case.
Federal grand juries are selected randomly.
Grand juries, and juries, are two different things. Duh.
In both cases, the pool is majority of Democrats. In the latter case, one can perform in ways to increase or decrease their odds of actually performing on a jury, if called.
Dumb as always, charlie.
Have you served in a federal grand jury? They literally pulled names out of a drum.
And I am sorry you object to the Fifth Amendment.
I get it but I'm still not charging The Earl of Sandwich with a felony. He got fired make him sweep the streets or something that will fly with charliehall
I think some of the confusion here is assault versus battery. He committed an assault by the letter of the law.
He committed a misdemeanor assault. Ordering upgrading of charges is waste, fraud, and abuse.
there are several reasons why I'm not a criminal defense attorney.
"Democrats see the law as a tool for them to use and abuse. That's it."
ONLY a hypocrite MAGA would say something so stupid.
No, it shows how absolutely partisan DC is, to the point they wouldn't even go this far for clear security violations by Hillary and Biden...and, fine, they're overcharging here a bit.
Not a bit.
Next time you get a speeding ticket we will have the prosecutor upgrade the charge to felony reckless endangerment.
Quite right although overcharging is routine. I bet the guy will be charged and convicted of a misdemeanor and that will be it along with his never working in Federal Government again.
Misdemeanors don't disqualify you for much of anything.
It isn't jury nullification when a grand jury determines that either the crime being charged didn't happen, as appears to be case here, or that the person being charged wasn't the offender, even without seeing any evidence from the defense.
I served on a federal grand jury and the just out of law school prosecutors often were lax in presenting their cases to us. We refused to indict ham sandwiches or more serious stuff until they cleaned up their acts. That actually helps law enforcement in that shoddy presentations before grand juries that get a pass aren't going to end up in convictions at trial without a lot more work.
Is this some of that "My violence is speech!" stuff? Where is the equivalent "Your speech is violence"?
Clearly, the proper response is to kill the guy and then go back home and have your home state decline extradition.
+1
Damn, that escalated quickly. Calm down Sgt Slaughter, everything doesn't need gunplay.
and a White House film crew
Virtue signaling needs to be documented, it's the most important thing after race.
And it's great political theater!
Remember when CNN showed up for all of Biden's SWAT raids on Trump associates? But that was OK because it's a private company.
Damn right. If Trump wants a fascist police state, he will have to do it himself, the public will not help.
You're never going to get a DC jury to convict a member of "My Bureaucracy".
And the grand jury's decision in his case shows the deep unpopularity of the federal takeover of D.C.'s streets.
With the people on the grand jury.
It must make you very sad that military takeover of a major city isn't more broadly popular.
Federal grand juries are selected randomly. And just maybe they saw that the crime the prosecutors claim happen did not happen.
or they saw the crime happen but didn't think it rose to the level of a felony. A ham sub isn't exactly a frozen water bottle or rock. There was zero chance the soldier had to do anything more than change his uniform.
This is another example of Pirro's incompetence. Her insistence on overcharging is waste fraud and abuse and she is short 90 prosecutors as it is.
"they then risk being further embarrassed" -- Really? I mean, really??
Well, props on the headline, at least. That was funny.
And the grand jury's decision in his case shows the deep unpopularity of the federal takeover of D.C.'s streets.
The Subway sandwiches are closing in!
It would be a shame if a group of disgruntled Reason commenters showed up at CJ's house and pelted him with ham sandwiches.
So when more dangerous thinks start getting thrown at law enforcement and juries still refuse to hold people accountable, what happens?
Let's ask Seattle who keeps letting arsonist and violent assaults off.
That just shows how deeply unpopular the laws against assaulting others are. Best repeal them and let the permanent purge clear out the issues from society (along with society).
This is pathetic. You charge the person with misdemeanor disorderly conduct. How stupid does the government look here? I would fire the attorney stupid enough to take this to a grand jury.
That was Jeanine Pirro, one of the many incompetents Trump has foisted on us. Don't blame the poor Assistant US Attorneys who would be fired if they pushed back on her stupidity.
Sorry but if you have a law school degree I expect you to behave like it and that may mean pushing back on a stupid boss.
Trump should order Pirro to get the Grand Jury to indict the sandwich.
But the guy was completely guilty! No one is above the law. Do libertarians not believe that anymore?
Guilty of a misdemeanor not a felony. Pirro thinks she is above the law.
And judging from the strong support here for the 34x convicted felon in the WH it is pretty clear that they do not believe that anymore.
Justice would be to allow the federal law enforcement officer who was hit by the hoagie, to throw a hoagie at Sean Dunn. That and some community service hours to clean up litter.
Sydney Sweeney's bust, bench press competitions, and federal agent food fights?
If they'd sold MAGA 2.0 as a real life version of Animal House I wouldn't have believed them.
Was it a ham sandwich? If so the irony is delicious. I wonder if the perp had to spread 'em while the pigs took a bite out of crime? A little slice of life from the D.C. pressure cooker.