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Burn, Baby, Burn

Plus: Government stake in Intel, inside the DNC, RFK Jr. brings back whole milk, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.26.2025 9:30 AM

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Patriotism, enforced: "Actions have consequences," writes the official White House X account. "Burn the American flag, disrespect our nation, incite violence: ONE YEAR IN JAIL. No excuses."

"Desecrating [the American flag] is uniquely offensive and provocative," reads the new executive order from President Donald Trump, released yesterday. "It is a statement of contempt, hostility, and violence against our Nation—the clearest possible expression of opposition to the political union that preserves our rights, liberty, and security. Burning this representation of America may incite violence and riot."

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"Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, the Court has never held that American Flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to 'fighting words' is constitutionally protected," adds the order. "My Administration will act to restore respect and sanctity to the American Flag and prosecute those who incite violence or otherwise violate our laws while desecrating this symbol of our country, to the fullest extent permissible under any available authority." Essentially, the order says that you cannot just be flag-burning—a protected act of speech—to go to jail; you must also be breaking another law in the process. It's bad, but less extreme than it looks.

President Trump's executive order on flag-burning is replete with qualifiers that strip it of any discernible meaning. "To the fullest extent possible" sounds aggressive, but it actually means "within the bounds permitted by law." pic.twitter.com/IokyJq1LyO

— Ed Whelan (@EdWhelanEPPC) August 25, 2025

But it gets trickier for people who aren't full citizens: "The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting within their respective authorities, shall deny, prohibit, terminate, or revoke visas, residence permits, naturalization proceedings, and other immigration benefits, or seek removal from the United States…whenever there has been an appropriate determination that foreign nationals have engaged in American Flag-desecration activity under circumstances that permit the exercise of such remedies pursuant to Federal law."

In principle, I think having the expectation that immigrants, no matter where they are in their naturalization process, be on better behavior and show they really want to be a part of this country makes sense; this expectation is shared by most Americans: Follow our laws, respect the whole American project, and maybe you too can become part of it. But it's the Trump administration, and this seems likely to be stretched and warped and used arbitrarily as just another weapon in its arsenal to try to deny immigrants naturalization.

Antonin Scalia, in defense of the right to burn the American flag: "If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag. But I am not king."

The arch conservative justice was part of the 5-4 majority decision in Texas… pic.twitter.com/hDEe2uzIkz

— Robby Soave (@robbysoave) August 25, 2025

Look, I am a flag respecter. A flag appreciator. I've long demurred on purchasing an American flag bikini because it doesn't feel respectful enough. (Do flags really belong on boobs?) I love America. I can't stop dunking on the Europoors. I love ice in my water and full-blast A.C. But it's rather king-like and gross to try to force this type of patriotism. Let them enjoy all their rights to the fullest extent possible—including their rights to be gigantic assholes about the flag—and be confident that a little shred of appreciation for America the Beautiful will grow.

Stakes are getting higher: "The U.S. government is likely to take ownership stakes in more companies—just as it did with Intel—toward the goal of building a sovereign wealth fund, National Economic Council director Kevin Hassett said Monday," reports Axios. "Last week, the government said it would take a nearly 10% position in Intel, in exchange for grants previously awarded to the chipmaker….Hassett, in a CNBC interview Monday morning, referred to that investment as a 'down payment' on the creation of a sovereign wealth fund, something President Trump has said he wanted the country to have."

Who oversees the sovereign wealth fund? What happens to it at the end of Trump's term? What is the purpose of it, exactly? Does this just force the government to keep doing this type of thing? What do Intel's competitors think about this, and how was Intel chosen? Does this feel a bit adjacent to the Chinese Communist Party to anyone else?

There are also lots of outstanding questions about how the company's own decisions will be made. From the Cato Institute's Scott Lincicome, writing at The Washington Post:

The most immediate risk is that Intel's decisions will increasingly be driven by political rather than commercial considerations. With the U.S. government as its largest shareholder, Intel will face constant pressure to align corporate decisions with the goals of whatever political party is in power. Will Intel locate or continue facilities—such as its long-delayed "megafab" in Ohio—based on economic efficiency or government priorities? Will it hire and fire based on merit or political connections? Will research and development priorities reflect market demands or bureaucratic preferences? Will standard corporate finance decisions that are routinely (and mistakenly) pilloried in Washington, such as dividends or stock buybacks, suddenly become taboo?


Scenes from New York: I can't stop consuming benchpressgate content.

Zohran not benching 135 isn't a huge deal. I actually served with a few Marines who couldn't do that and we never gave them a hard time. We didn't want them worrying during pregnancy and we knew they'd get strong again after coming back from maternity leave.

— Robert Sterling (@RobertMSterling) August 25, 2025


QUICK HITS

  • Really wild scenes from the Democratic National Committee's summer meeting:

DNC members now watching a polling presentation that says "tough on crime" messaging is less powerful than "serious about safety" messaging. https://t.co/OyMb9qw05f pic.twitter.com/eMpTEd58Z8

— David Weigel (@daveweigel) August 25, 2025

  • "Donald Trump moved to oust Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook, a dramatic escalation in the president's battle for more control over the US central bank that unnerved investors," reports Bloomberg. "In a letter posted on Truth Social late on Monday, Trump said he had 'sufficient cause' to fire Cook, the first Black woman to serve on the Fed Board in Washington, based on the allegations she made false statements on one or more mortgage loans." ("The Trump administration has accused Cook of committing fraud in 2021 while seeking mortgages on two properties—on a home in Michigan and a condominium in Atlanta—by describing both of them as her primary residence," reports The Washington Post. The properties were acquired prior to her term starting.) Cook's term was not set to expire until 2038, more than a decade from now. "This is a kill shot at Fed independence," Aaron Klein, a senior fellow at Brookings, told Bloomberg.
  • Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is helping to bring whole-fat milk (and yogurt and cheese) back to American schools, reversing 45 years of bad guidance—favoring skim-milk products—from the federal government.
  • How Democrats abdicated responsibility for law enforcement in D.C., and how Trump might not be making things much better:

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  1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    Zohran not benching 135 isn't a huge deal.

    That’s correct. He’s going to win anyway.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Every generation needs an inspirational leader to show them how stupid they are.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        The guy is the epitome of the Millennial generation--can't lift his own weight, expects never-endng updoots for the most mundane shit, and demands a life of luxury and ease simply for existing. The Dunning-Kruger generation distilled into one retarded nepot.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        From the classic set of demotivational posters.

        Mistakes: It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

        https://despair.com/collections/posters?srsltid=AfmBOoo5f8ETy8X0AnJMqDt8o8FypKEuDDBnobgQMx4zmo-uUc2aVvG6

    2. Chumby   2 months ago

      A low T cuck city deserves a collectivist mayor and all that entails.

      I am eagerly awaiting how wonderful this will be.

  2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    ..reversing 45 years of bad guidance….

    Trust the “experts”.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      More testing needed.

  3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    If you don't like my fire then don't come around cause I'm gonna burn one down.

    Fuck Trump, commie scumbag.

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      And that's all for today's episode of "Leftists Misusing Words".

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Right the guy who thought it was a good idea to shutdown the entire economy and has used forced to take ownership position in a company isn't a commie. What is he then? Cause he isn't a free market capitalist.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          Doubling down on stupid. Interesting tactic.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Except he didn't shut down the whole economy, and this EO doesn't ban flag-burning, it bans deliberate incitement.

          Stop being gullible. Untwist your panties. Then go read the EO for yourself instead of constantly falling for DNC tricks.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            "Stop being gullible. Untwist your panties. Then go read the EO for yourself instead of constantly falling for DNC tricks."

            Then why be a Democrat?

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            Even if that's the case, it's still too much of an own goal because of the free speech implications. Better to highlight the double standard with the Most Holy and Sacred Queer Shroud by promising to put the hammer on any woke state AG or DA who brings charges on someone for doing the same to those flags.

            Like I said yesterday, this is a case of Trump getting a little too high on his own supply.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              It's the opposite of an own goal.

              Sometime in the next week AOC, or Bernie, or maybe even Pelosi, is going to stand on the steps of congress and burn a flag to "prove a point about free speech" and that will be played on every Republican ad during the midterms.

              Trump just baited the Democrats into burning flags to stick it to Trump.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

                Never change, ML. Trying to frame every single issue as a "win for Trump", no matter how much it sucks.

                With enough framing and messaging, you can make Trump-style socialism sound like MAGA capitalism!

                1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                  Never change KKKemjeff.

                  Frame every action Trump does with a lie like "OMG! Trump's banning flag burning!!!".

                  Nothing you do is honest. Everything is a lie or bad faith. What are you going to do when AOC burns a flag?

          3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            He was talking about my commie comment. And fine not the whole economy, but Trump is a commie. And I'm open to other terms for his form of the same shitty state controls, so what would you like me to call it? Marxism, communism, socialism, fascism...your pick.

            The first part is just a song.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              When Trump starts saying shit like "property is theft" and "my side not having political hegemony is fascism" and starts complaining about the tyranny of "whiteness," then I'll take the "Trump is a commie" nonsense seriously.

              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                So he is a free market capitalist, who uses government force to take shares of private companies? I'm not buying that

                1. Incunabulum   2 months ago

                  You'd rather he just gave your money away to Intel?

                  1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                    I'd rather he not take control of companies using the government.

                    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                      I'd rather the government stop stealing my money to give it away to giant corporations that don't need it in the first place.

                      Why should you get $10B for nothing? Why should you get a $5000 apartment for $800 (that you use government handouts to pay for)? Move over bitch, I own this shit too, and Fresh Prince is on.

                    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                      He's not taking control of any company.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                  False dilemma. There hasn't been a fucking free market capitalist President since Coolidge.

                  1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                    Not at all. Donald Trump has it within him not to be a socialist. It's his choice to follow this path. I will not follow him down it.

                    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                      Don't worry, you can keep the socialist path to yourself.

            2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              "same shitty state controls, so what would you like me to call it?

              What shitty state controls? and how would they be like communism?

            3. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

              I don't know. Biden is the one who signed off on the 10 billion dollar grants to Intel, What did he expect to get back? I don't like the government taking over businesses, but I really hate the government handing over billions to private companies with nothing in return. Maybe having to hand over part of their company in exchange for taxpayer funded grants will discourage companies from taking taxpayer funds.

      2. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        In fairness, he admits it is only "sometimes" he has a great notion.

        (still waiting)

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Pretty sure it's far closer to "never"; TDS-addled shitstains tend toward that end of the spectrum.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      Were those last two words supposed to be a signature? We all know that about you already.

      Look if leftists want to proclaim disrespecting their flag in this civil war is a punishable offense then I see no issue with giving them the Golden rule good and hard. It's not boundlessly libertarian but it is analogous to the non-aggression principle in that they're getting exactly what they're giving.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I don't care if you burn a flag. So long as it's your own flag, and not one that you stole. So long as you burn it in a non-arsony way--using a burning flag to try to light an ICE facility or Border Patrol van on fire is not "free speech". So long as you burn in in a non-assaultive fashion--try jabbing at me with a burning flag on a stick and see what happens. While we're at it, burning a trans-pride flag is also free speech, subject to the same caveats.

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        wrong place

        1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          And yet, you're still here.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            Now you're here too.

            1. Dillinger   2 months ago

              is anybody really here?

              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                Dave’s not here, man.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                Is anybody there?

                Does anybody care?

                Does anybody see what I see?

                1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                  The ONLY musical I like. In fact I love 1776! I was born into a family where you have to love 1776 or risk being excommunicated. I bought my parents and myself the soundtrack on CD years ago.

                  (They also tried shoehorning love of Les Mis, but I'm not having that gay shit.)

              3. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                Twenty five or six to four?

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                  Good group, great guitarist, wrong song. The answer should’ve been “does anybody really know what time it is?”.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    Any excuse to bring up 25 or 6 to 4 is acceptable though.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                      +1. It’s a hell of a showcase for Terry Kath’s guitar skills.

                    2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                      I had to google wtf 25 or 6 to 4 was. Once I played the song I recognized it. For a second I thought sarc was dyslexic and meant 46 and 2, the Tool song.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Yeah. Like ITL said, Terry Kath was amazing on 6 strings. His live performances on YouTube are great if you're in to guitar. Sadly he met an untimely fate then Chicago turned to crap in the 80's.

      2. Minadin   2 months ago

        Yeah if you want to burn a flag in your backyard firepit or burn barrel or whatever, I don't give a hoot. If you light anything on fire in the middle of the sidewalk / street, I find that a bit sus, whether it's a flag or not.

        1. mamabug   2 months ago

          What about fireworks? Or my neighbors brilliant idea last 4th - their dried up Christmas tree.

          1. Minadin   2 months ago

            In the street or in the fire pit? Dried up juniper branches make a great 'natural' sparkler.

          2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            Old Christmas tree bonfires are the best. But having enough space is definitely a requirement.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "Fuck Trump, commie scumbag."

      From "Always A Lying Pile of TDS-Addled Slimy Shit"
      Fuck off and die, asswipe.

    5. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      So just insults for SaGN, and no rebuttals (not including MO)? Why would that be?

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Yes, just insults. Because what he wrote was not an argument. There's no rebuttal for stupid statements. Thanks for playing.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          You are held to higher standards than Mike, sarc, and others hold themselves to. The liberal way.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            And by higher standards, leftists mean double standards.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              Yes we know that Trump and his defenders consider standards to be leftist.

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                So fucking broken lol.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Calling Trump a commie is an obvious argument against the commentariat hive mind.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            So is claiming that urban residents should just learn to live with high crime rates, apparently.

            1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

              Where did that "should" come from? I said "You get used to it."

              You've read so much in to those few words that was only intended as a quip.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Distinction without a difference. And don't say retarded shit if you don't want to be mocked for saying retarded shit.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  Can you explain to me how saying "You get used to it" is retarded so I can live up to your double standard?

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                    What, you don't like your moronic bon mots being repeated because you're assmad about NGs causing crime rates to drop, or cartel members being thrown in jail causing El Salvador to suddenly change into one of the safest countries in Latin America?

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      This train went off the rails

              2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                You've read so much in to those few words that was only intended as a quip.

                Hey RR, stop being a Jesse.

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  Poor retarded sarc. So broken lol.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                  Stop what, indulging his dumb deflection attempts? If he doesn't want his flippant idiocy being brought up, he shouldn't say stupid shit in relation to serious issues.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    We were talking about Trump being a commie. All the rest is humoring YOUR deflection and your focus on me rather than the topic of discussion.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                      You sound like Hihn bitching whenever people wouldn't let him dictate the terms of an internet comment thread.

                  2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                    You're taking the things he said that were obviously not serious and treating them as serious, while ignoring what he said that actually was serious. It's the Jesse formula for bad faith argumentation. It doesn't look good on you. Lighten up.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                      You’re one to speak about bad faith arguments, hypocrite?

                    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                      Oh, he was quite serious when he was complaining about crime rates dropping because it wasn't happening in his approved fashion. He had to get flip about it to deflect because his dialectic got piledriven into the concrete.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Below is a link to our conversation you keep referencing. Can you please point out where I was "complaining about crime rates dropping because it wasn't happening in [my] approved fashion"?

                      https://reason.com/2025/08/15/d-c-showdown/?comments=true#comment-11165670

                      Also when did the pile drive in to the concrete happen? Was it when you said my opinion is invalid because I am isolated from the crime in suburban whiteopia or when you pivoted to my opinion being invalid because I live amongst the crime and not suburban whiteopia?

                    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                      Below is a link to our conversation you keep referencing. Can you please point out where I was "complaining about crime rates dropping because it wasn't happening in [my] approved fashion"?

                      Oh, you mean when you were whining about Bukele throwing cartel members in prison? Is that why you're playing dumb all of a sudden? I mean, shit, you're the one who made a flip comment about it and now you're complaining that I'm holding that stupidity over your head?

                      Thanks for posting the link, it's convenient way to show what dumbass arguments you were making. Why do you think that people in urban areas should accept living with high crime rates?

                    5. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Why do you think that people in urban areas should accept living with high crime rates?

                      There's that word "should" again.

                      Do you see a difference between these 2 statements?

                      1 "People get used to living in bad conditions."
                      2 "People should get used to living in bad conditions."

                      And I'm not complaining about Bukele throwing cartel members in prison. I'm complaining about him throwing PEOPLE in prison without doing any sort of due process to determine whether or not they've committed a crime. Another distinction that either went over your head or you choose to oversimplify to the point of absurdity.

                    6. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Thanks for posting the link, it's convenient way to show what dumbass arguments you were making

                      Haven't you noticed that no one else seems to care? Everyone else either gets what I was saying and finds it reasonable, or doesn't give a shit about what I say or think.

                      Food for thought: Perhaps the reason YOU care so much about what I said is because something I said is agitating some cognitive dissonance within your mind you'd rather not cogitate. Perhaps you see your own authoritarian tendencies and struggle with some libertarian self identification whose tenets you have long since abandoned. Just speculating.

          2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            China's government allows private property but the government controls much of it. Communism denies private property. So China's economy would be better described as fascist, not communist. And efforts to emulate it, as Trump is currently doing, would again be better described as fascist, not communist. Add to that federal agents fanning out across the country in search of scapegoats, soldiers being deployed in major cities...

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Still not what fascist means.

              Amusingly youre calling the guy deregulation vast swaths of federal control the fascist. Because youre retarded.

          3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            I call Trump a commie because his actions are of those of a commie (or fascist, socialist...)

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

              1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                Then what category does Trump's economic agenda fall into?

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              FWIW, Trump didn't forbid stores for using plastic bags, nor tell restaurants they can only hand straw to a customer if the customer asks.

              If Trump's actions are commie, what does that about the commie level of blue city governments that want to nitpick everything?

          4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            No it’s an argument that Trump is a commie.

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          Yet your all bent out of shape over them.

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Its just song lyrics, nothing to rebut.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          What was the purpose of posting those particular lyrics, followed by calling Trump a commie scumbag?

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            1. Poking Trump for declaring he has the authority to declare things illegal.

            2. I've been calling Trump a commie for awhile. His signing the Cares Act to lockdown the economy, EO taxation, took control of US Steel, now Intel. Fuck that commie scumbag will be how I refer to him from time to time now. Just like I did with Joe Biden or Obama.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              So it was about the EO. Thanks.

    6. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      I skimmed through the White House statement on the EO, and that looks harmless enough. According to the statement, the EO tells the federal attorneys to go after any other crimes that are committed at the same time the flag is being burned. Given that flags are often burned at the same time as left-wing "protests" that cause property damage, and the perpetrators of that property damage are usually released almost immediately, it can be seen as a directive to stop playing "catch and release" with them.

      There's no mention of flag burning being a jailable offense by itself.

      Yes, I know. However, idiots will go hurr durr I will burn this flag to upset MAGA and then voila (should have left the vodka auto correct) opposition video clips as far as the eye can see.

      I do not support the EO. I do support the utter hilarity I will have in watching people fall into the trap that has multiple giant billboards around it with giant flashing neon signs that say TRAP with massive red arrows pointing at the trap.

      If you actually read the Executive Order, it doesn’t do nearly as much as critics seem to think. Here it is, and here is the key bit:

      Notwithstanding the Supreme Court’s rulings on First Amendment protections, the Court has never held that American Flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to “fighting words” is constitutionally protected. See Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 408-10 (1989).

      He’s not trying to override the First Amendment caselaw, and he’s not making new law here. He is suckering Democrats into burning a lot of flags, and endorsing flag-burning, in order to “stick it to Trump.”

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        The one consistency I've seen here over and over is watching people freak out over how MSNBC describes an EO and not actually reading the EO. Sarcmolly is especially proud of it.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Reading is patriarchal oppression and racist.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          I know.

          All of us, including me, hear that "TRUMP IS DOING X AND IT'S LITERALLY HITLER", usually from Reason or Twitter, and then we go read the White House website and it turns out he isn't doing that at all.

          But every time we still groan inside when we hear the DNC take first.

        3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          ""and not actually reading the EO. ""

          Because it's about the who, not the what.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        He is suckering Democrats into burning a lot of flags, and endorsing flag-burning, in order to “stick it to Trump."

        More critically or worse as I indicated; more burning of flags in protest in the streets with reporters in front reporting "Mostly peaceful mass flag burning".

        As others pointed out:
        Trump: Go in peace.
        Leftists: OMG! Insurrection.

        Trump: Don't burn the flag.
        Leftists: OMG! [actual violent insurrection] Our Free Speech!

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        He doesn't need to sign a flag EO to do that, though. Look at the ICE protests this summer and how the 50501 astroturf org realized their narrative was getting fucked up because everyone was carrying anything except an American flag, save to desecrate it.

        They tried course-correcting and handing out flags at one of their national Boomer circlejerk protests afterward, but it was too late by then, and everyone knows they don't even like this country except when they think they have political hegemony.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Correct. But he wants democrats to take up flag burning on MSNBC.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            As I said before, sometime this week an elected Democrat, or maybe a coven of them, will burn an American flag to prove Trump can't stop them, and it will be played in every Republican midterm ad.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              34D chess.

            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Seattle took up the cause.

              https://x.com/thehoffather/status/1960196106475929773

      4. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Stop being gullible. Untwist your panties.

        https://youtu.be/uhKq9JvssB8?si=dSCZfTERBHCWur5t

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Wut?

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            It's a song. You are all bent out of shape over 20 year old song lyrics.

            1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              Wait. Do you still think that this new EO prohibits flag burning?

              1. mad.casual   2 months ago

                And, once again, even if it did, think that it prohibits some "theater in the park"-style re-interpretation of the Marshall House incident rather than illegal foreign national "Fuck your country!"/"It's a 1A protected right of our trannies to read sexual instruction manuals to minors at public libraries!" prohibition?

                You have a right to burn a flag, carry a gun, and read and share books. Those are not active rights to deface or destroy public property, threaten or intimidate other people, or sexualize their children using public resources.

              2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

                Possibly, depends on the prosecutors and courts and cops now. Leaves open a lot of interruptions. And of course, no technically Donald Trump has no authority to legislate but people like you defend his unconstitutional taxation schemes so who knows.

                Which is itself bullshit. Either it is illegal or not.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                  Every other president has done it so one might say precedent, but perhaps you can tell us why this time it's worse than all the other times that you didn't give a shit about?

    7. damikesc   2 months ago

      Whoa, be careful. Such edginess could kill people. Edgelord!!!

  4. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    …the first Black woman to serve on the Fed Board in Washington,

    Skin color is still the most important thing.

    1. Chumby   2 months ago

      I’d be interested to see if the original author could define “woman” and be willing to do so in a public forum.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      You can’t have chicks in charge is pretty important too.

  5. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

    I've long demurred on purchasing an American flag bikini because it doesn't feel respectful enough. (Do flags really belong on boobs?)

    We'd know if it we sees it.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Pics?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/rep-anna-paulina-luna-goes-viral-for-old-maga-bikini-pics-how-she-went-from-obama-liberal-to-trump-supporter/articleshow/112572453.cms

        There you go.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          'A video of Representative Anna Paulina Luna in a MAGA swimsuit circulated on social media on Wednesday, prompting the Republican congresswoman to claim it as evidence of her "biological womanhood."'

          I'll say!

          More, please.

        2. Chupacabra   2 months ago

          Nice.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          When she first ran, this article popped up on my feeds, and I sent a copy to my wife saying "I'd vote for her." We have a strong marriage, so the beating I took wasn't too bad.

          https://www.dailywire.com/news/latina-veteran-launches-gop-congressional-bid-ryan-saavedra

        4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          Yes, the flag belongs on boobs.

          Glad we settled that. Next?

    2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      A hot chick in a flag bikini, laying on the hood of F-250 eating a greasy burger. 110% American.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        What, no guns?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          The guns are assumed.

      2. tracerv   2 months ago

        I miss the old Hardee's commercials.

    3. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      As a veteran I say nothing could be more patriotic, ma’am.

      *salutes with national anthem playing

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      (Do flags really belong on boobs?)

      [squints] Unsure if childishly naive or classy grown woman trying to avoid discussing the potential actual disrespect of using the flag as a thong.

      For 20/20 clarity: female boobs are never an insult.

    5. Super Scary   2 months ago

      Well, horizontal stripes typically make things look bigger. So I say flag swimsuits are alright.

    6. Ron   2 months ago

      I see this from time to time of flags symbol on clothing and hats being s disrespectful act and maybe even illegal. However honoring something by placing a symbolic image on items is not the same as disrespecting.

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        Then again, Lizzo in a flag bikini would be disrespectful to the flag and the viewers.

        For some reason, I don't think I'd feel disrespected seeing Liz or Anna Paulina Luna in a flag bikini. I'm sure there is a reason for the discrepancy, but I can't figure it out.

      2. psmoot   2 months ago

        Have we considered that a S&S bikini will draw attention to the flag? What could be more respectful than that?

    7. Chumby   2 months ago

      I’m guessing Liz posting pics of her wearing a Stars and Stripes bikini would raise a few flag poles.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        I would certainly not feel disrespected.

  6. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    Donald Trump moved to oust Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook

    Commie going to commie purge.

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Never go full retard. Sorry, I was 5 years late on giving you that advice.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        I love how Trump now has "libertarians" defending the Fed.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      Good to see you're out and proud in your support of fraud and corruption so long as it serves the DNC.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        One commie purging another commie. O well.

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

          Not addressing the support of corruption I see, just deflecting with nonsensical attacks.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            Not addressing the support of corruption I see, just deflecting with nonsensical attacks.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Poor sarcbot.

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                ThE dEmS dId It FiRsT!

                1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                  The dem did it 2nd this time.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shitstain.

      2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        It's ok because Democrats did it first?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Is it, Sarckles? Or is that (D)ifferent?

        2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          You know, with all this horrible shit Democrats keep doing first, a reasonable person would think you'd be screaming from the rooftops about how bad the Dems are.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            And yet, as you can see from the several examples I posted below, when Biden was president, he was still bitching about Trump.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      Just don't skid on a rainbow crosswalk!I thought mortgage fraud was a half a billion big deal emergency?

    4. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

      Donnie would fire the Supreme Court justices if didn't already have six of them in his pocket.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        Would you not put packing the Supreme Court up there with your hypothetical about Trump summarily dismissing Justices?

        Funny, it was one party that ran on packing the Supreme Court by adding several more Justices to give them the edge. And that same party only failed in doing so because the two more moderate Dems in the Senate wouldn't go along.

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Wait, is Trump uber-fascist super-Hitler or commie?

      1. Super Scary   2 months ago

        He's also super-Hilter and a puppet of Israel. It's a whole thing.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Also Putin's puppet. Truly a Renaissance man.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          It takes a polymath to be a literally Hitler Jewish puppet.

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Not sure, but he ain't a free market capitalist.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          You ain't anyone who is capable of knowing that, TDS-addled lying pile of slimy shit.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          How so?

          Remember, corporatism isn't the free market.

    6. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Did I miss the meeting where libertarians or Republicans or democrats or whomever decided it was good to defend unelected, unanswerable economic bureaucrats for decades-long appointments? I mean besides the socialists who've always advocated on the side of appointed bureaucrats controlling capital, economies, and/or the means of production.

      Are we back around to the "There is no One World Globohomo social-economic order. The deep state is a myth." retardation *again*?

      1. Super Scary   2 months ago

        "Are we back around to the "There is no One World Globohomo social-economic order. The deep state is a myth." retardation *again*?"

        I'm so tired of reruns. When is sweeps week?

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Was not defending one of the commies being purged.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          You seem to be pretending to some degree of intelligence. And failing.
          Fuck off and die, shitstain.

        2. mad.casual   2 months ago

          So you were calling the duly-elected POTUS a commie or just obliquely referring to two random communists and trying to pretend like the rest of us should understand or agree like an insane moron?

        3. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

          Yes you fucking were you dishonest POS. Why else attack the person removing them for cause?

    7. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      What song are these lyrics to?

  7. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

    Will Intel locate or continue facilities—such as its long-delayed "megafab" in Ohio—based on economic efficiency or government priorities? Will it hire and fire based on merit or political connections? Will research and development priorities reflect market demands or bureaucratic preferences? Will standard corporate finance decisions that are routinely (and mistakenly) pilloried in Washington, such as dividends or stock buybacks, suddenly become taboo?

    So nothing will change?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I know that Ohio has a new Intel facility slated. I have no idea what incentives to get that plant cost Ohio and/or the federal government, or whether these proposed funds will go into that pile. For the record, Intel's gross profit for the twelve months ending March 31, 2022 when the CHIPS Act was passed was $42.205B, a 0.58% decline year-over-year. Intel's annual gross profit for 2021 was $43.815B, a 0.47% increase from 2020. Intel's annual gross profit for 2020 was $43.612B, a 3.49% increase from 2019. It seems to me that if Intel wanted to build chip factories int eh US, they can afford to build chip factories in the US without putting their hand out to the US taxpayers.

      Same for others in US chip industry:

      Qualcomm: Revenue: $11.16 billion, adjusted, versus $10.60 billion expected, up 41% year-over-year. QCT (chip sales): $9.55 billion versus $8.86 billion expected per StreetAccount, up 52% year-over-year. QTL (technology licensing): $1.58 billion versus $1.55 billion expected per StreetAccount, down 2% year-over-year..

      Texas Instruments gross profit for the twelve months ending March 31, 2022 was $13.021B, a 30.5% increase year-over-year. Texas Instruments annual gross profit for 2021 was $12.376B, a 33.52% increase from 2020. TI's profit margin on chips was 43%.

      Analog Devices gross profit for the twelve months ending April 30, 2022 was $5.690B, a 36.19% increase year-over-year. Analog Devices annual gross profit for 2021 was $4.525B, a 22.61% increase from 2020.

      Microchip Technology gross profit for the twelve months ending March 31, 2022 was $4.450B, a 31.69% increase year-over-year. Microchip Technology annual gross profit for 2022 was $4.45B, a 31.69% increase from 2021. Microchip Technology annual gross profit for 2021 was $3.379B, a 4.22% increase from 2020.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Burn the American flag, disrespect our nation, incite violence: ONE YEAR IN JAIL. No excuses.

    That Parks and Recreation Fred Armisen animated GIF has to be working overtime today.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      The irony of that clip is that the character was reacting to how spastic and disrespectful the people at the council meeting were being.

    2. jubalharshaw   2 months ago

      Like Trump ever served. Fuck MAGA.

  9. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Does this feel a bit adjacent to the Chinese Communist Party to anyone else?

    That's the point. America won't be great again until it can compete with China, and China is beating us because their fascist government as a stake in every major corporation. So for us to beat China and be great again, we've got to be like them. You know, fascist. At least that's the rationale as I see it.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      At least that's the rationale as I see it.

      In other words, that’s not what’s happening.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        If Sarc sees it then you know it's tremens delirium at work.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      From Rachel Maddow to Tim Waltz, sarc has some serious breadth.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        But what about breath? Like Maddow and Walz have after servicing each other.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Luckily mouth wash isnt excluded from his drink preferences.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Now do Norway.

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        Norway is interesting. Their government manages oil production, but unlike socialist governments like Venezuela they seem to be doing a great job. Not sure what your point is. You advocating for the nationalization of American oil companies, or just throwing out a red herring?

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Lol.

          Holy. Fuck.

          Sarc immediately goes to failing to criticize Norway doe the same behaviors. Doesn't realize how it contradicts his screams of rage over intel, even though Norway has far more control. Fucking hilarious.

          By the way buddy. Took a look through the threads here with the auto bailout. Youre oddly not spitting in rage against Obama.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            I’m sure he was spitting rage when the CHIPS act was passed. I don’t remember him doing that, but I’m sure he must have.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              From 2022:

              You're not thinking. If Trump argued for subsidies then most of the commentariat would say Reason has TDS for opposing them. Because true libertarians are Trump Republicans.

              https://reason.com/2022/07/28/the-chips-act-is-corporate-welfare-disguised-as-industrial-policy/?comments=true#comment-9621529

            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Not sarc but pretty fucking funny from shrike:

              Intel is dying. Their only chance is to become the US version of Taiwan Semiconductor. Americas Fab.

              If China invades Taiwan this move might save our economy.

              Then Donnie will claim the credit, of course.

              https://reason.com/2024/11/25/biden-rushes-to-dole-out-chips-act-funds-before-leaving-office/?comments=true#comment-10814555

            3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Two from QB, clearly very upset:

              Second only to the Dukes of Hazzard.

              https://reason.com/2023/02/27/now-the-chips-act-is-going-to-subsidize-child-care-too/?comments=true#comment-9945390

              That poor kid in the picture. That face is terrifying

              https://reason.com/2023/02/27/now-the-chips-act-is-going-to-subsidize-child-care-too/?comments=true#comment-9945382

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                clearly very upset: ???

                1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                  Lol, poor QB.

                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    You may be top of his list now lol.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Yeah, wicked burn. I'm all mad and stuff.

            4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Sarc February 24:

              Principled Trump supporters who defended his protectionist policies and rhetoric praise Biden for subsidizing Americans who are competing with China!

              Who am I kidding.

              https://reason.com/2024/02/21/biden-pours-out-another-6-5-billion-for-the-chips-acts-costly-protectionism/?comments=true#comment-10456445

  10. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Australia doesn't seem very accommodating of the special aspects of the middle-eastern culture...and on top of that, they seem to be ignoring the wide variety of truly positive aspects that immigrants bring!

    https://www.wsj.com/world/australia-blames-iran-for-antisemitic-attacks-expels-ambassador-bd63cfe6?mod=hp_lead_pos11

    Australia Blames Iran for Antisemitic Attacks, Expels Ambassador
    Incidents included a firebombing of a synagogue in Melbourne

    SYDNEY—Australia said Tuesday that Iran directed two antisemitic attacks against the local Jewish community, including the firebombing of a synagogue, and that it would expel the country’s ambassador.

    The attacks were linked to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the most powerful branch of Iran’s military, Australian officials said. They said the Guard used a complex web of proxies to hide its involvement, and that Australia would list it as a terrorist organization. Iran’s diplomats in Australia weren’t involved, Australian officials said.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Their continued support, or lack thereof, of Palestinian Nationalism will indicate whether they're coming to their senses or still AWFLy crazy.

  11. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    "Burn the American flag, disrespect our nation, incite violence: ONE YEAR IN JAIL. No excuses."

    Trump is now dictating laws. He should just send Congress home. All they do is get in the way.

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Something, something, democrats did it first...

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Didnt bother to read the EO again?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Sarc doesn’t read much past the label on a bottle of Boone’s Farm.

    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      Inciting violence is already against the law.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Essentially, the order says that you cannot just be flag-burning—a protected act of speech—to go to jail; you must also be breaking another law in the process.

    Fortunately there are enough laws on the books to guarantee whatever else you're doing is against the law.

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      No doubt.
      Open air fire without a permit, failure to get an environmental impact statement, felony stupid, the list goes on and on.

    2. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      This reads like targeting flag burners for enforcement of whatever else they are doing.

      It's probably just another excuse to deploy troops.

    3. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      Ordering a pretext prosecution for engaging in a legal and protected activity is unconstitutional.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Now do rainbow crosswalks.

        1. Ron   2 months ago

          exactly doing a burnout on a rainbow crosswalk is free speech but do it and you will be arrested. of course some will say it is not your cross walk but it is public domain therefore it is

  13. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Scenes from NYC: socialism doesn't work.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/nyc-has-8k-empty-affordable-housing-units-with-240k-families-on-a-waitlist-here-s-why-the-homes-are-vacant/ar-AA1LadCP

    NYC has 8K empty affordable housing units — with 240K families on a waitlist. Here's why the homes are vacant

    The authority claims that so many units are vacant because significant repairs are usually needed once a tenant vacates a unit. NYCHA’s COO Eva Trimble shared with city council at a hearing in June that all of its units must be vacant for at least 30 days after a tenant has moved out, as these units often require work once they’re vacant.

    “On average, it takes four to six months to complete the lead and asbestos testing process, and abatement if necessary, during turnover,” said Trimble.

    NYCHA reports that one in 17 New Yorkers use its services, and the program currently provides affordable housing for 528,105 residents. This includes both traditional public housing and the Section 8 program for low-income residents.

    In addition to maintaining 177,569 apartments across all five boroughs of the city, the authority also provides economic opportunity and social services programs for low-income New Yorkers. The New York city council claims that, for all of NYCHA’s good work, it took an average of 423 days to prepare apartments for new tenants in 2024. NYCHA data shows that the current average timeline is 350 days.

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      socialism doesn't work

      What about Truth Socialism?

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        socialism doesn't work bigly

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      NYC's worst landlord is NYC.

  14. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

    "This is a kill shot at Fed independence,"

    Fatass Donnie did say he wanted to be dictator.

    This is the conservative way.

    #Limpcock-approved

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      1. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

        Shut up, Sevo. You jizz-mopping Tenderloin vagrant.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      Limp cock describes you well, Pluggo. Now, for any newbies here, why don’t you tell us what happened to your original SPB account.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      Tell us all again how the Fed is libertarian, Pluggo.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Look, I am a flag respecter. A flag appreciator. I've long demurred on purchasing an American flag bikini because it doesn't feel respectful enough.

    The only but coming next better be the one you plant in that flag bikini, missy.

  16. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    "This is a kill shot at Fed independence,"

    Independence equals leftist. The only way for the Fed to be truly independent is for it to answer directly to Trump and do what he says.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Zzzzzzz

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Look at sarc defend keyenesian incompetence. Defend federalization of banking.

      But he isnt a Democrat.

      We get it sarc. You demand democrats and activists control institutions. Fuck voters.

    3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      The Fed shouldn't exist, you discount brand shill.

  17. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    American flag bikini because it doesn't feel respectful enough. (Do flags really belong on boobs?)

    American flag bikinis are about as American as it gets. Not disrespectful at all.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Put some apple pie on those flag draped boobs in a Chevrolet at a baseball game.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        With an American eagle perched on her ar15

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      One harkens to the cover of the Black Crowes album "Amorica"

      It's a wonderful thing.

      Google the non-Walmart uncensored version

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Always sounded too much like Armorica, which is a region in northwest France that Asterix is from.

    3. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Once again, call me a crude, low-EQ, narrow-minded, disrespectful anti-American, female-body-obsessed, chauvinist all you like, but I could see how a woman might have a more demure discussion about the appropriateness of the symbolism of her chest rather than discussing threading an American flag thong up her ass crack.

      I mean, it's probably my toxic masculine empathy that makes me think Liz probably has zero problems wearing a t-shirt with an American flag on the breast, without a bra, the same way I would but that there would be some hesitation about wearing an American flag thong, like I would.

  18. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    https://pjnewsletter.com/trump-dhs-funding/

    Trump DHS Yanks Funding From Groups With Alleged Terrorist Ties Following Watchdog Report

    This whole mess was uncovered by a conservative watchdog group, the Middle East Forum. Good on them for doing the digging. Their report found that over the last ten years, DHS and FEMA gave over $25 million to these shady groups. Think about that timeline. That’s the Obama and Biden years we’re talking about.

    The new team at DHS isn’t messing around. An official said they are taking the report “very seriously.” They’ve already cut off 49 projects. That move alone saves us a cool $8 million. They’re also trying to get back any money that hasn’t been spent yet. It’s about time someone in Washington cared about our money.

    And who was getting this cash? The list is just as bad as you’d think.

    From ‘BizPacReview’:

    The report further cited $250,000 awarded to the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), which DHS has accused of having “Hamas ties.” Another $750,000, according to the report, went to mosques in Michigan and Texas that DHS described as “outposts for Iran’s revolutionary brand of Shi’a Islamism,” including the Islamic Center of America and the Islamic House of Wisdom near Detroit, as well as the Islamic Ahlul Bayt Association in Austin.

    Radical Groups Reveal Their True Colors
    So, what did the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) have to say about this? Did they apologize for taking taxpayer money while having these alleged ties? Of course not. They had a complete meltdown.

    A CAIR spokesperson didn’t even try to deny the claims. Instead, they attacked the new administration. They called the watchdog that exposed them an “Israel First hate website.” Then, they tried to change the subject by talking about Gaza. It’s the same old playbook. When caught, they scream “racism” and blame America and Israel. They just showed everyone who they really are.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      Denying federal funds based on accusations from a right wing political group does not comply with due process. If the government wants to deny funding, they need to present the evidence to the group and allow the group to refute it.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        There is no right to federal funding doc retard.

        At least get the correct leftist narratice bullshit right. This would be an APA violation which SCOTUS already smacked you retards down multiple times this year. Including last week.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          GOVERNMENT MONEY IS A HUMAN RIGHT!

        2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          It is well established that the government may not deny discretionary money or actions based on impermissible reasons. For example, there is no right for a school to receive federal funding, but the government can not deny funding because the school is run by a black women.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            And what if it’s run poorly, Molly? Should they receive the money then?

          2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            What if the school is ran by a catholic?

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "Denying federal funds based on accusations from a right wing political group does not comply with due process..."

        Dr. Retarded Asswipe assumes to know something about law. Dr. Retarded Asswipe doesn't.
        Fuck off and die, asswipe.

      3. Ron   2 months ago

        our government should quite giving money to any group period for ever, it is not our governments job at any time to do that. we could save money and reduce taxes and pay down our debt

  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The U.S. government is likely to take ownership stakes in more companies...

    I was ascared we wouldn't find anything to replace the USAID garbage.

    1. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      I am confused by the concept of a sovereign wealth fund when we have $30T in debt.

  20. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    With the U.S. government as its largest shareholder, Intel will face constant pressure to align corporate decisions with the goals of whatever political party is in power.

    Yup. Democrats will control the company while they are in power, and use this precedent to acquire more companies which Republicans will then control when they are in power. Wash, rinse, repeat.

    1. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      TBF, this was already the case when you are seeking government contracts and export permits.

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        TBF, being a customer or setting conditions on permits is not the same as telling the board what to do.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          In this post sarc denies the regulatory state. The one he consistently defends.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I actually served with a few Marines who couldn't do that and we never gave them a hard time. We didn't want them worrying during pregnancy and we knew they'd get strong again after coming back from maternity leave.

    Oooouuuuuuucccchhhhhhhhhhh.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      But in the 21st century "men" can get pregnant too. Perhaps Mamdani is expecting.

  22. Jerry B.   2 months ago

    "Look, I am a flag respecter. A flag appreciator. I've long demurred on purchasing an American flag bikini because it doesn't feel respectful enough."

    This comment is worthless without pictures.

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Really hard to judge until we see pics with the bikini and pics without the bikini.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        It sounds like you're conducting research too.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    DNC members now watching a polling presentation that says "tough on crime" messaging is less powerful than "serious about safety" messaging.

    Messaging.

    1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      Once again, they are making the excuse that their messaging is bad, when it's their policies people don't like.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

        Its also the most retarded presentation of the question and they know it. If the choice was a more accurate:

        Do you want to actually prosecute crime, rather than letting repeat offenders terrorize your community?

        VS

        Do you want to keep letting criminals off the hook for racial justice, but instead deploy some soft community policing mental health brigade that wont do anything meaningful to solve anything, but will cost a bunch more money, and also pass out some pamphlets that drugs-R-bad to the users with their needles?

        They basically phrased it : "Do you want to be a big fat meanie head that gets maybe (or maybe not) gets results by being cruel, ORRRR, do you want to achieve Utopia in a Win-Win-Win situation full of unicorns and rainbows with no downsides?!?!" And someone out there thought this is valuable information.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    This is a kill shot at Fed independence...

    Can my money be independent of the Fed?

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      What is the Fed independent of, exactly? Accountability?

      And why? Why should there exist any unelected, unaccountable bureaucracy? Burn it all down. Unless there's a gay flag nearby, then that would be a hate crime.

      1. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

        What is the Fed independent of, exactly?

        Political meddling by power-drunk politicians.

        It's a good thing.

        And they are audited each year by Deloitte despite the stupid rednecks who yell AUDIT THE FED!

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          If Trump wants low interest rates then the job of the Fed is to give him low interest rates. After all, with his tariffs he has shown that he is an expert on economics who knows more than every economist who existed over the last two and a half centuries.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            In this post sarc demands unelected officials who have been consistently wrong control interest rates.

            Unelected bureaucrats seem to be his thing.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          You write like you think the Fed never had an agenda, political or otherwise.

          But, sure, a powerful public agency with no accountability is a good (and libertarian) thing.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            It's better than a powerful public agency that answers to the whims of the ignoramus in chief. Remember too that if you get your way and Trump gets to run the Fed, that means that Democrats will run it when they regain the White House. Is that what you really want?

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              In this post sarc doubles down on defending unaccountable bureaucrats. Even if they commit crimes.

              Doesn't realize these bureaucrats are already controlled by democrats. But they seems to be his desire.

              Also once again defends federal financial controls while crying about a stock purchase.

              Someone make it make sense.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

              Two which Article does the Fed answer 2, Sarc? I’ll give you II chances 2 figure it out, if you dare II answer. Hell, I’ll even give it 2 you in the question.

              And who is the head of the branch named in that Article?

              1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                If there was anyone but Trump in office, his stance would be (D)ifferent,

                1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                  Absolutely not. Independent agencies should remain independent. Unlike you Trump defenders I actually have principles, I understand that giving him powers today is the same as giving Democrats powers tomorrow, and I'm not going to cheerfully cut off my nose to spite my face.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

                    Dumbass, there is no such thing as an independent agency in the federal government. It cannot constitutionally exist as there are only three branches. If it isn’t legislative nor judicial, then it falls under the purview of the executive branch. Guess who every executive branch agency answers to.

                  2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    In this post sarc believes these institutions are independent because they say they are. What a retard.

              2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                Sarc's a world government creep, he doesn't care.

      2. Rick James   2 months ago

        What is the Fed independent of, exactly? Accountability?

        Think of it like a massive financial institution that can control major aspects of the economy, in particular, the supply and 'price' of money, but you put Jack Dorsey in charge, give him a Section 230 for interest rates and then say "do what thou wilt".

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is helping to bring whole-fat milk (and yogurt and cheese) back to American schools...

    ONLY TO HAVE TRUMP TARIFF THEM OUT OF EXISTENCE.

    Seriously, how are we importing dairy?

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      In giant tanker ships would be my guess.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        If from China those same ships also carry PCBs and formaldehyde.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          PCBs

          Polychlorinated BiPhenyl and Printed Circuit Boards, together.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          PCBs lined with asbestos, mixed with lead, and wrapped in PFAS.

    2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      One of the foundational principles of economics is comparative advantage.

      One of the foundational principles of politics is willful ignorance of economics.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Sentence two is hilarious based on speaker of sentence one.

        You still dont understand the terms you use buddy. Your definition of comparative advantage says to buy from slave nations lol. You mix up price with efficiency. Because youre a fucking moron.

      2. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

        Foreign cows work cheaper?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          To be fair, Sarcasmic isn't very bright.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            And what few brain cells he has left, he’s getting rid of via massive doses of Colt 45 and Boone’s Farm.

  26. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Narrative are always preferable to reality. NYT caught pushing false climate science.

    https://realclearwire.com/articles/2025/08/20/the_new_york_times_publishes_false_energy_and_climate_information_and_refuses_to_correct_its_errors_1130046.html

    1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      The Spirit of Duranty lives.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      "Articles addressing energy and climate topics in The New York Times (NYT) increasingly include Inaccurate data and false information. The problem is compounded by the paper’s failure to follow its own corrections policy when errors are called to its attention."

      Just 21st century (and every other century) journalism.

      "Readers look to the NYT to deliver well-reasoned and fact-checked information and analysis in areas where they are not themselves experts."

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  27. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Nurse in Canada suspended because she dared notice men and women are biologically different.

    https://justthenews.com/nation/free-speech/nurse-suspended-fined-saying-men-are-men-giving-canadas-conservatives-new-path

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Hey, biology has nothing to do with healthcare.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      In fairness, at least the "for reasons as yet unexplained" is a step away from the "I am become science." and towards a more honest FYTW.

      "Sure, biology is over two thousand years old with reasoning on millions of organisms 20-textbooks deep and our ideology is all of twenty minutes old and doesn't stand up to two sentences worth of scrutiny but we're sure a good reason for you bitches to suck a ladydick will be forthcoming."

    3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      Huh, in Hongcouver. I would have thought Victoria. I guess the execrable David Eby is behind this one.

  28. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Why is DHS wearing masks. Well...

    Adrian Guerrero, a U.S. citizen, slashed the tire of a government vehicle during the clash at the immigration courthouse on 100 Montgomery Street, according to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
    ...
    Standing within arm’s length, Guerrero made repeated threats, saying, "I’m going to f--- you up," "I’m going to go after your family," and "I’m going to stab you," according to DHS, citing court filings.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/keffiyeh-clad-anti-ice-protester-threatens-stab-agent-harm-family-san-francisco-mob-attack

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Guerrero sounds like a candidate for a "mistaken identity" deportation. And then a great candidate for the next Democratic "hero".

  29. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Judges are now joining democrats in the redistricting fight.

    https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/judge-orders-utah-redraw-congressional-map-ahead-2026-midterms

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      It's interesting that we must have maj-black / all-districts == x% majority black districts because x% of the population of the state in black, but it's perfectly OK to not have 51% female-majority districts, nor 10% majority-gay, or y% majority-Republican districts. It's as if the courts and Democrats don't think a black person can win an election unless it's racially rigged.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        Most Democrat minorities could not be elected, ever, if not for such districts.

        Not ALL...just most.

  30. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Fired fed employee who committed mortgage fraud hires Hunters lawyer. Worked well for him.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-fires-lisa-cook-potentially-criminal-conduct-creating-another-opening-fed-board

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-fires-lisa-cook-potentially-criminal-conduct-creating-another-opening-fed-board

  31. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "...It's bad, but less extreme than it looks..."

    IOWs, it's not what TDS-addled slimy piles of lying shit claim it is.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Like Robby?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        DID YOU HEAR WHAT TRUMP SAID!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
        Pretty much a guarantee the didn't say that.

  32. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'But it gets trickier for people who aren't full citizens: "The Secretary of State, the Attorney General, and the Secretary of Homeland Security, acting within their respective authorities, shall deny, prohibit, terminate, or revoke visas, residence permits, naturalization proceedings, and other immigration benefits, or seek removal from the United States…whenever there has been an appropriate determination that foreign nationals have engaged in American Flag-desecration activity under circumstances that permit the exercise of such remedies pursuant to Federal law."'

    Does this include a bunch of commies in North Korea or jihadists in Iran?

  33. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    So if every time someone tries to burn a flag, he gets the shit beat out him, flag burning "speech" becomes "fighting words"?
    Interesting.
    Maybe red states can become 'flag defender sanctuaries', and refuse to enforce assault laws in one certain case?

    (of course, flag burners hide out in blue states, don't they?)

  34. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'In principle, I think having the expectation that immigrants, no matter where they are in their naturalization process, be on better behavior and show they really want to be a part of this country makes sense; this expectation is shared by most Americans: Follow our laws, respect the whole American project, and maybe you too can become part of it.'

    What about subversive or outright revolutionary types born here?

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Do flags really belong on boobs?'

    Depends on the boobs.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Paid protestor books. Yes/no?

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Sydney Sweeney's boobs? I hear she has good genes.

      Truth be told, while she's certainly attractive and has a nice chest, I don't see the hype.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        She's a conventionally attractive white woman in an industry that's pushed a lot of obese, DEI goblins in entertainment and advertising over the last 5-10 years. Someone like Sweeney is a unicorn these days.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          There's also just plain old variation in taste. Apparently, a lot of people find Stephanie Corneliussen to be smoking hot but I can't look at her above the chin because her face looks like a goddamned Picasso.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            character.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            Not bad, not great. Nice light eyes, but not blonde nor red, just a plain brunette. Of course, as always with beauty, YMMV.

          3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            "I can't look at her above the chin because her face looks like a goddamned Picasso."

            It fascinates me how some people see things that other's don't. She looks like a normal model to me, just like any other. Normal eyes, ears, lips, fairly symmetrical face.

            Of course I never found Nicole Kidman attractive and I have no idea why. Everything about her is a conventional beauty, but there was just something that I didn't find attractive, and even I can't put my finger on it.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              You might be thinking of post-Y2K Nicole Kidman, who indulged in way too much cosmetic surgery.

              "Days of Thunder"-era Nicole Kidman was a fucking smokeshow. She was so fine that Tom ended up leaving his big-tittied first wife for her.

              1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                Even Days of Thunder. It puzzles me too, because she literally has everything I like.

              2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                "Dead Calm" Kidman, yeah, I can see that!

            2. mad.casual   2 months ago

              fairly symmetrical face

              Not even close (*Kinda* SFW).

              Again, the dimples on one side, two different canthal tilts (as opposed to Sweeeney's 'both down'), one eyebrow higher than the other... her face looks half out of perspective the vast majority of the time I look at it and when both sides seem to be in the same perspective, it doesn't look like her. I don't think it's at all coincidental that I tend to notice and am able to differentiate twins/siblings.

              Re: Nicole Kidman, I like naturally thin, well-defined eyebrows. Even arched. Lots of people infer deviousness or nefarious intent (or just a hard look) from it, admittedly, she has done herself no favors in the last 30 yrs.

              And to be clear: I'm not being hyper or hypocritical or trying to be condescending. I've got ptosis in one eye and a scar over the other. I lay no claim to being the paragon or arbiter of beauty. Just noting one of the few notable exceptions (to be fair, she's not at all known for her eyes) IMO.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                In the 90s-00s, the thing was getting facelifts, then the trend went to fillers in the late 00s-2010s. A lot of that crap in the '10s was due to the Kardashians, the worst plague of succubi to ever be foisted on humanity.

                Now the trend seems to be for studios to tell actresses to get rid of their buccal fat, which results in that gaunt cheekbone look. Check out Anya Taylor-Joy's photos from about 8 years ago to what she looks like now for a good example of this.

                1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

                  The photos-over-time of Jenna Ortega are also concerning, and of this trend.

                  She went from a happy looking kid, to a cute/attractive 20 something, and seemed to skip a few steps straight to plastic surgery nightmare.

                  I really hope she can reverse course, get it put back in, and stop touching the stuff, its a shame when a normal looking attractive person demolishes their face with this body dysmorphia

            3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              That’s the same for me with Katy Perry. Every body part separately should be attractive, but I find her extremely unattractive.

              And it’s not because her music is shit. Lots of females have shitty music I still find attractive.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

                Katy Perry's looks are a testament to the power of modern cosmetics. She's a six, at best, without all the makeup. Great rack, but she's aging in dog years at this point.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                  She looked cute when she was the blondish Katheryn Hudson, gritty gospel singer. The thing that replaced her is some Hollywood Frankenstein's monster creation.

                  1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

                    Ya, and she also knows it now and ala Alyssa Milano, Scarlet Johansen, etc she is entering her "I hit the wall, so now I am a feminist, respect me for my great works and how dare you gawk at young hot girls!"

                    I did love that her little feminist anthem she tried to put out fell flat as fuck and was met with a collective eye roll, as it was the clearest pander. But in modern times and with all the girl bossing we have to sit through, it was still impressive to face plant that hard.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Her gun training video was pretty hot.

      3. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        I didn't see the hype either, until I saw her in video rather than still photos, and then there's something about the way she holds herself and her sleepy eyes that I just find hot.

      4. Rick James   2 months ago

        Truth be told, while she's certainly attractive and has a nice chest, I don't see the hype.

        Tend to agree, but once again, the right people got mad when she popped up on screen and that's what caused the hype. The leftards literally can't help themselves. They went on the attack which caused everyone to rally 'round the boobs.

  36. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'The U.S. government is likely to take ownership stakes in more companies—just as it did with Intel—toward the goal of building a sovereign wealth fund'

    Probably not more libertarian than just giving out tax dollars away, but it might make more financial sense.

  37. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "The Trump administration has accused Cook of committing fraud in 2021 while seeking mortgages on two properties—on a home in Michigan and a condominium in Atlanta—by describing both of them as her primary residence"

    But math, including counting, is oppressive white privilege culture. Good thing Cook does not need math in her job.

    1. Fat Rush Limpcock (King of the Conservatives)   2 months ago

      I realize it is fashionable in MAGA to pile on the black bitch but legally a person can apply for any number of homes as a primary residence.

      while seeking mortgages

      "Seeking" = apply for mortgage

      As usual Fatass Donnie's claim has no real basis in truth.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        You can't claim two homes as a primary residence, you hicklib pederast.

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Words can mean whatever you want them to mean.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        "I realize it is fashionable in MAGA to pile on the black bitch"

        And by pile on, you mean not give her the oppressed race and gender special treatment demanded by the left?

      4. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        "but legally a person can apply for any number of homes as a primary residence."

        Just like Sarc, Shrike doesn't know what words mean.

      5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Lie.

  38. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is helping to bring whole-fat milk (and yogurt and cheese) back to American schools, reversing 45 years of bad guidance—favoring skim-milk products—from the federal government.'

    Low fat cows hardest hit.

    1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

      "There's only one thing I hate more than lying: skim milk, which is water that's lying about being milk,"

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        "Bazinga"

  39. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

    Democrats abdicated law enforcement, but Trump isn't making things better? Well, He is, if you go by crime stats and body counts.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Nothing says freedom quite like soldiers at checkpoints demanding papers.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Thanks Rachel!

        I'm hoping derangement is the second yo last symptom of Maddow induced TDS.

      2. Z Crazy   2 months ago

        Who cares, as long as it works?

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          That does seem to be the prevailing attitude. Fascism will be different when Trump does it. You know, because.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

            And how, Sarc? Care to explain your deranged fantasy to us?

          2. Z Crazy   2 months ago

            I dont care about labels; I just want to save lives!

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Nothing quite says freedom like wholesale license to break laws, with special dispensation for select politically favored groups.

        1. Z Crazy   2 months ago

          These days, it is illegals who are the favored group.

      4. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        Have you taken your Midol today, Rachel?

      5. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        "SOLDIERS AT CHECKPOINTS DEMANDING PAPERS!!!"

        1. It isn't happening.

        2. During the Covid insanity you celebrated this.

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

          Is that what was in the gray box? What other idiocy?

          1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            I wouldn't know where to begin. If we didn't know better we'd think the Sarc account is a parody by some nefarious Republican poster.

  40. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

    Flag burning is legal and protected under 1A. Deporting people for engaging in legal and protected activities is a blatant constitutional violation.

    1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

      Poor Molly.

    2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      You mean everyone should be treated equally and subject to the same laws? No way!

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Including illegals right sarc?

    3. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      Then you have not read Harisiades v. Shaughnessy, 342 U.S. 580 (1952)

    4. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      LMAO...
      The Constitution doesn't say burning a Flag *entitles* one to be in the USA.

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Deporting *illegal aliens* for engaging in legal and protected activities is a blatant constitutional violation.

      Dr. Retarded Asswipe sort of left that out.

    6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Cope harder.

      And my obligatory kill yourself.

    7. damikesc   2 months ago

      Nah. We have plenty of morons who hate our country. No point in importing more.

    8. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      "Flag burning is legal and protected under 1A."

      Yes. That's why this EO doesn't ban flag burning.

      "Deporting people for engaging in legal and protected activities is a blatant constitutional violation."

      Deporting illegals being in the country illegally is constitutional, Tony, you ridiculous clown. You don't need another reason.

    9. Rick James   2 months ago

      Don't say Flag Burning...

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

        Sounds gay.

  41. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    Do flags really belong on boobs?

    That depends. Post a pic with and one without.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      I admire your style, but be careful what you wish for.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        As my grandma always said, regarding boobs, "if you've seen one, you want to see them all."

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      How does the same argument hold up when applied to a male's speedo?

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        My response was specifically for the question asker.

  42. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Sure, let's import more of this "culture"!

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/riots-engulf-city-after-boy-of-a-migrant-background-killed-during-police-chase/ss-AA1Lecmz

    Switzerland – considered to be one of Europe’s most peaceful countries – has been engulfed by 48 hours of riots after a teenager was killed during a police chase. The 17-year-old died while trying to escape the officers, who allege he was riding a stolen scooter. Police raced after him, with the car’s blue lights flashing, at a distance of more than 100 metres. According to initial investigations, the teenager lost control of the scooter as he drove over a speed bump, and crashed into the wall of a garage

    Despite attempts to resuscitate him, the victim died at the scene. Swiss media reported that the boy, who has not yet been named officially by authorities, was of a migrant background, which has only inflamed the already fragile relations between authorities and immigrant communities. The incident happened in the city of in Lausanne, in the French-speaking region of Vaud, just before 4am on Sunday

    By the evening, more than 100 masked teenagers gathered in the district of Prélaz, hurling fireworks at police, overturning and torching bins, and even damaging a bus belonging to the Lausanne transport company. Footage showed burning containers and volleys of fireworks while armed police clashed with the crowd

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      By the evening, more than 100 masked teenagers gathered in the district of Prélaz, hurling fireworks at police, overturning and torching bins, and even damaging a bus belonging to the Lausanne transport company. Footage showed burning containers and volleys of fireworks while armed police clashed with the crowd

      Performative free speech. If only the Swiss didn't ban burning the Swiss flag, they wouldn't have this problem.

      That and teaching immigrants' children not to steal scooters and slam into walls while riding them.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Immigrant kids steal the scooters that lazy native kids refuse to steal.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      That just one of the inherent risks of riding a scooter.

    3. Rick James   2 months ago

      Random side note, Seattle is looking at banning the scooters and just keeping the e-bikes, because according to the data, those scooters are fucking dangerous.

    4. Z Crazy   2 months ago

      Relations are strained because these migrants are savage barbarians.

      Singapore does not have this kind of problem.

      Maybe Switzerland should be more like Singapore.

  43. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    So today's Chron has a front page(!) sob story about two teens being denied sex change surgery 'because of pressure from Trump'.
    1) The two are offspring of a tranny couple; think there might have been some parental pressure here?
    2) Trump's "pressure"; think our tax dollars were being used to mutilate kids?
    Yes, and yes.

  44. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Packing-weight or not.
    Signaling that the people's 1A, the very structure of a USA, is questionable is complete BS.
    Reminds me of FDR implementing [Na]tional So[zi]al[ism] to save the USA from the Nazi's.

  45. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>It's bad, but less extreme than it looks.

    it's ... how you get things to the Supreme Court so they can tell you whether it's bad ... if you want to play the Marbury v. Madison home game

  46. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Hey Jesse. You only left grey turds on 14 of my 16 comments. Slacker. I mean stalker.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

      No one is stalking you, you deranged dipshit.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Do you WANT to sound like a 13 year old drama queen?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

        You mean he doesn’t already?

      2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        He feels compelled to respond to all my comments with what I assume are his typical lies and insults, and I'm the one behaving like a 13 year old girl?

        1. Don't look at me! ( Is the war over yet?)   2 months ago

          Poor sarc

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          Pour Sarc.

        3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Your assumptions are as retarded as your posts were.

    3. Super Scary   2 months ago

      Senpai not noticing you as much? Sorry to hear that.

    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Still number one on your list.

    5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Dude, that’s only cuz you’re “hardly ever here anymore.” If you’d come around more often you might get the total attention you so desperately need.

  47. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Donald Trump moved to oust Federal Reserve Governor Lisa Cook

    can she conduct her office duties from Leavenworth?

  48. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is helping to bring whole-fat milk (and yogurt and cheese) back to American schools

    I suppose if you're not going to just close the schools ...

  49. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>I've long demurred on purchasing an American flag bikini because it doesn't feel respectful enough.

    it's fine. offense must be taken. one cannot offend.

  50. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >But it's the Trump administration, and this seems likely to be stretched and warped and used arbitrarily as just another weapon in its arsenal to try to deny immigrants naturalization.

    You know what? You can thank Biden for that. If he hadn't stretched and warped and used his authority arbitrarily as just another weapon in his arsenal to flood the country with illegal immigrants the pendulum would not be swinging the other way right now.

  51. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >and be confident that a little shred of appreciation for America the Beautiful will grow.

    The problem Wolfe is that it is *not* growing.

  52. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

    The menace on our roads.

    https://www.talkingwreckless.com/p/the-ghosts-of-i-95-and-how-a-fatal?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

    Ophadell Williams “Singh's” journey from mass killer to MTA employee, and bail bondsman, according to Facebook and LinkedIn profiles, and a News report where he actually saved some lives in 2022 at work for the MTA.

    The National Transportation Safety Board's investigation revealed a web of deception so brazen it reads like fiction. Singh had been operating under multiple identities for years, accumulating violations faster than regulators could process them. The New York Department of Motor Vehicles issued him a Commercial Driver's License despite having 21 separate suspensions on record, eight of which remained active at the time of the crash.

    Singh's employer, World Wide Travel of Greater New York, knew exactly what they were hiring. The company's post-accident compliance review revealed "inadequate safety oversight" and violations spanning years of operation. World Wide wasn't operating alone, they shared drivers, dispatchers, mechanics, and vehicles with a sister company called Great Escapes Tours & Travel, a classic shell game designed to evade federal oversight.

    The National Transportation Safety Board concluded that inadequate oversight by World Wide Travel’s management was a contributing factor in the crash, while FMCSA investigators uncovered widespread violations and systemic failures in vetting high-risk drivers. By June 2011, the carrier was ordered out of service with an “unsatisfactory” safety rating. Yet rather than disappear, the same ownership simply shifted operations to its “sister” company, Great Escapes Tours & Travel, which shared the same buses, drivers, and managers. In effect, the name on the side of the bus changed, but the leadership practices that enabled the tragedy did not.

    Singh's criminal trial became a masterclass in how the justice system protects killers when they wear the uniform of legitimate commerce. Despite overwhelming evidence of fatigue, speeding, and reckless operation, a jury acquitted him on all 15 counts of manslaughter in 2012. His defense attorney successfully argued that Singh had swerved to avoid a phantom tractor-trailer, a claim investigators definitively disproved through accident reconstruction and electronic data analysis.

    Singh didn't disappear from transportation. News reports and his Facebook posts from 2022 show him employed by the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, which was his past employer before the crash, the same agency responsible for moving 5 million New York area commuters daily on buses, trains, and ferries. The irony of a mass killer collecting taxpayer dollars while working in public transportation apparently escaped the notice of MTA human resources officials.

    The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration's own data reveals the scope of this carnage. Large truck and bus crashes kill over 5,000 people annually, with driver error contributing to 87 percent of fatal crashes. Yet the agency continues to issue medical certificates to drivers with disqualifying conditions, approve motor carriers with fabricated safety records, and allow state agencies to operate shadow licensing systems that bypass federal oversight entirely.

    California's AB 60 license program has created an underground economy of non-domiciled commercial drivers operating without proper federal screening. Private, intrastate fleet exemptions from federal regs by each state can allow companies to put dangerous vehicles on public highways without the safety inspections required for federally regulated commercial carriers. Third-party CDL examiners take cash payments to pass candidates who can't read English traffic signs or perform basic vehicle inspections. Medical examiners are selling med certs to drivers who don't qualify due to medical fitness issues. Each loophole represents a profit opportunity for someone and a death sentence for someone else.

    Over the next 29 days, we'll examine how this machine of death really operates, case by case, crash by crash, body by body, law by law. We'll name the states and agencies that enable it, the officials who profit from it, and the victims who pay for it with their lives. We'll expose the medical examiners and certification mills, the third-party testers who take bribes, the rogue, unsafe, and sometimes chameleon and fraudulent motor carriers, and what federal agencies and private groups are or are not doing about all of the fraud and corruption that embodies a considerable portion of the US transportation industry.

  53. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    The most immediate risk is that Intel's decisions will increasingly be driven by political rather than commercial considerations.

    I share the concern but imagine not knowing that this is already an issue with all kinds of companies and industries right now.

  54. Rick James   2 months ago

    How Democrats abdicated responsibility for law enforcement in D.C.,

    Only in DC?

  55. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    (Do flags really belong on boobs?) I love America.

    you have answered your own question

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      I believe in America
      I raised my daughter in the American fashion; I gave her freedom, but taught her never to dishonor her family. She found a boy friend -not an Italian. She went to the movies with him, stayed out late.

      Two months ago he took her for a drive, with another boy friend.
      They made her drink whiskey and then they tried to make her wear a flag bikini. She resisted; she kept her honor. So they beat her like an animal.

  56. Rick James   2 months ago

    FYI, it's not the Democrats fault they abdicated law enforcement in DC... all those resources had to be put on this woman.

  57. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    the first Black woman to serve on the Fed Board in Washington

    Good lord, no one fucking cares about this shit anymore. This was defeated at the ballot box in '24

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      It was defeated in all three elections Trump won.

  58. Rick James   2 months ago

    g.) Cook's term was not set to expire until 2038, more than a decade from now. "This is a kill shot at Fed independence," Aaron Klein, a senior fellow at Brookings, told Bloomberg.

    Jesus, there's a real possibility I won't even be alive then. The fuck are we doing with multi-decadal appointments?

  59. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

    NEW: Federal bureaucrat jobs have gone down by 84,000 since President Trump took office.

    "Since the inauguration, we've created over half a million new private jobs... government jobs are going down and private jobs are coming up..."

    https://x.com/ResisttheMS/status/1960382280435630297

  60. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Can we call it fascism yet?

    https://images.newrepublic.com/ed97889aa82a9c0f06f1f3dae883bb6d8aacbf51.jpeg?auto=format&fit=crop&crop=faces&ar=3%3A2&ixlib=react-9.10.0&q=65&w=768&dpr=2

    How about now?

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      Remind me, did Obama hang giant banners of himself in DC when he was president? How about Biden? For that matter, how about FDR or Woodrow Wilson or JFK?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        Yes. Both. Many times. Do you expect us to forget this shit just because it is no longer convenient to your narrative?

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Really? Do you have a picture of this?

          1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

            Cursory search:

            https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/barack-obama-is-the-man-of-the-moment-at-the-portrait-gallery-32753204/

            https://npg.si.edu/blog/now-on-view-portrait-barack-obama-shepard-fairey

            https://i0.wp.com/hyperallergic-newspack.s3.amazonaws.com/uploads/2020/10/IMG_8390-1.jpg?resize=720%2C888&quality=90&ssl=1

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Those first two are works of art that other people prepared and put in the National Portrait Gallery. It wasn't Obama putting a huge banner of himself outside of some building in DC.

              But this is par for the course for you, when you can't win an argument, you try to change the playing field by shifting the goalposts and changing the standards of assessment. The question wasn't if there was any large portrait of Obama or Biden. Of course there are, there are large portraits of every president! The question was whether they decided to put huge banners of themselves on buildings in DC glorifying themselves.

              You cannot win the argument on the merits so instead you try to muddy the waters and change the goalposts. That is what you do.

              1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

                So pictures are fascism if you don’t like where they’re located?

              2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

                "Those first two are works of art that other people prepared and put in the National Portrait Gallery."

                YES! In the fucking National Gallery, not on the wall on a building but the fucking National Gallery.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

      Can we call you guys fascist yet?

      https://x.com/NeilAxelrod/status/1936910164365365742

      How about now?

      Trump didn't host a special televised event a la a Nuremberg rally where he called half the country a threat to democracy.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        There we go. Deflect, reframe, whataboutisms. The three tools in the MAGA propagandist's playbook.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

          Literally what you were doing with your post, you ridiculous clown.

          Also, crying "whataboutism" is the demagogues way of confronting valid comparisons or worse. You cried that a poster of Trump is fascism while pretending Biden's Nuremberg rally is an unfair comparison.

          Everything about you is a joke, shill. I hope your masters are only paying you what you're worth.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

            Nine times out of ten, a "whataboutism" is a simplistic juvenile superficial comparison only, that is only intended as a gotcha and not intended as a genuine apples-to-apples comparison.

            Kinda like what you did above - when you tried to equate Trump erecting giant banners to himself in DC glorifying him, and Obama agreeing to a portrait of himself put in the National Portrait Gallery, something that literally every president does. They are not valid comparisons, YOU KNOW they are not valid comparisons, and the only reason you even attempt it is to try to create a false equivalence to run interference for your team. That is the overwhelming majority of "whataboutisms" around here and that is why, as a rule, they suck.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              “Nine times out of ten, a "whataboutism" is a simplistic juvenile superficial comparison only”

              Cite?

            2. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

              Crying "whataboutism" is your way being manipulative and serves your motive of discrediting, as critical talking points can be used selectively and purposefully even as the starting point of the conversation (cf. agenda setting, framing, framing effect, priming, cherry picking). The deviation from them are then be branded as whataboutism by you. Your accusations of it are forms of strategic framing and have a framing effect.

              In reality what you try to portray as "whataboutism" provides necessary context into whether or not a your smear is relevant or fair.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      fascism is what ? be specific

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        Here's a good example:

        https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/nazi-party-poster-depicts-adolf-hitler-bearing-the-german-news-photo/84358262?adppopup=true

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          How about actually going to the original source for fascism, Benito Mussolini?

          “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.”

          1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

            a getty image link is a perfect response from a lib-brained type. Of cousre it's all imagery to them. nothing concrete.

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Lying Jeffy isn’t just a liar, he’s also dumb as hell. It’s quite the combination.

    4. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      You call things all kinds of stupid shit because you're retarded.

    5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      That looks like a picture. Do you think that’s what fascism means?

      1. Mother's Lament   2 months ago

        No, of course not, but Lying Jeffy is a smearmaster and a paid shill, so he's going to scream "FASCISM!" even if it's just Trump picking his nose.

  61. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Also, remember:
    If the government wants to run a grocery store in Brooklyn, that's socialism.
    But if the government takes a 10% ownership stake in a billion-dollar corporation, that's not socialism.

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Jeffy understands: bears in trunks, attraction to minors, jerking-off on a minor and then feeling bad about it.

      Jeffy doesn't understand: anything else.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Nah, it's also socialism. Intel could not take the $8B in grants, the government could recall the grants and not be doling out billions to multinational corporations. Trying to get something back (a la TARP) makes some sort of sense, but that doesn't seem to be what Trump is trying to do.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I sincerely hope that it doesn't come out like Solyndra, which was funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act with the goal of beating the Chinese solar panel market and bringing cheap solar power to the US with made-in-the-USA solar panels. Solyndra - Wikipedia I think we all remember how that turned out.

      Or, more recently, FoxConn, which is a Taiwanese company that Wisconsin's then Gov. Scott Walker (R) and Pres. Donald Trump tried to lure to Wisconsin, with plans to build a $10B LCD TV manufacturing plant in southeastern part of the state and employ thousands of people, to bring some of those jobs being done in China and Vietnam and... would instead be done right there in the heartland. In return the company was to get huge subsidies and tax breaks. Needless to say "Numerous economists expressed skepticism that the benefits would exceed the costs of the deal."

  62. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Also:
    The people who actually hate America, are not the people who burn a piece of cloth, but the people who would sacrifice our hard-won and precious liberties in the name of virtue-signaling over a piece of damn cloth.

    The people who thump their chests and proclaim themselves to be the "real Americans" by wanting to ban flag burning are the ones undermining the whole idea. Their idea of "patriotism" is superficial nonsense, waving a piece of cloth around. It is not a deep commitment to liberty and the principles of the revolution.

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Their idea of patriotism is misguided. Your idea of patriotism is trans, MAP, terrorism, Nazism. No thanks, retard.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

      now do skidmarks on a tranny sidewalk

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        I love this attempted gotcha, because it's more of a boomerang than a gotcha.

        Setting aside for the moment the legality of desecrating symbols, do you really think that desecrating any symbol should be considered equally culturally acceptable (or unacceptable)? That if a person burns an American flag, or a person burns a Pride flag, both should be met with the same level of opprobium?

        If that is the case, then what about the person who burns a Nazi flag? Or a Confederate flag? Or an Israeli flag? Or a Palestinian flag? Or a Soviet flag? All equivalent? All equally acceptable or unacceptable culturally?

        Maybe, desecrating different symbols have different meanings depending on the symbol and the intentions of the person doing the desecration, and that a simple-minded attempt at "gotcha" equivalence is just dumb. What do you think?

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

          do you really think that desecrating any symbol should be considered equally culturally acceptable

          No i dont but i doubt the outrage i'm seeing over the flag laws when it comes from people who were completely silent about jail terms for putting skidmarks on a painted sidewalk that had the regime's sacred symbols on it.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

            The outrage levels are different because the symbols are different. Do you not see this?

            1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Exactly. So I’ll repost the link ML did earlier because this symbol is clearly more outrageous Lying Jeffy.

              https://x.com/NeilAxelrod/status/1936910164365365742

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (smarter than The Average Dude)   2 months ago

          A hell of a lot of work and verbiage just to duck actually answering the question.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            One of the many different ways Lying Jeffy is dishonest.

        3. MT-Man   2 months ago

          any examples that aren't nation states in your rebuttal above to a non-nation state entity?

        4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          My answer is already provided above.

        5. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Look at this hypocrite spin!

        6. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          When was the last time someone went to jail for burning a flag?

          https://scnr.com/article/washington-teens-face-ten-years-in-prison-for-leaving-skid-marks-on-lgbtq-rainbow-road-mural-with-scooters_16cce63827c011ef9c930242ac1c0002

          Three Washington teenagers are facing up to ten years in prison for leaving scooter skid marks on an LGBTQ rainbow mural painted in the middle of the road in Spokane.

          "The updated law went into effect Thursday, June 6, meaning it is a felony to deface a public symbol of Pride in Washington state," KREM noted.

          https://nypost.com/2024/02/14/news/florida-man-dylan-brewer-arrested-for-vandalising-lgbtq-pride-mural/

          Florida driver accused of ‘intentionally’ doing burnouts on LGBTQ pride crosswalk mural

          The Palm Beach County Human Rights Council (PBCHRC) said the vandalism should be considered a hate crime, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            I also notice that when Reason covered the first event (Spokane), a certain poster was not present to defend the free speech rights of the accused. Wasn't the only one conspicuously absent either.

            https://reason.com/2024/06/12/it-is-illiberal-to-charge-teens-with-felonies-for-vandalizing-a-pride-crosswalk/

            1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

              Well, he's hardly ever here....

    3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      All flag burners are the same, and Lying Jeffy knows how they feel about America.

      Or he just made that up whole cloth because he’s dishonest.

  63. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Oh, that Bee...

    https://babylonbee.com/news/report-kilmar-abrego-garcia-just-one-away-from-free-burrito-on-his-deportation-punch-card

    Report: Kilmar Abrego Garcia Just One Away From Free Burrito On His Deportation Punch Card

    "Once he found out that he could get a free burrito if he got deported enough times, that put a clear goal in his mind. Now, he's almost there."

  64. See.More   2 months ago

    (Do flags really belong on boobs?)

    No.

    Per the US Flag Code, 4 U.S. Code § 8 - Respect for flag: "(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel..."

  65. Roberta   2 months ago

    Burning American flag:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKyMOXiGqZc

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