Lawyers and Families Report Squalid Conditions and Lack of Legal Access at Alligator Alcatraz
Numerous accounts of lack of showers, overflowing toilets, and inability to meet with lawyers are emerging from the detention center in the middle of the Everglades.

Prisoners at Florida's newly opened immigrant detention center in the Everglades are suffering in squalid conditions and are cut off from legal access, according to attorneys, detainees, family members, and lawmakers.
While Florida state officials insist that the hastily constructed tent prison, which they've dubbed "Alligator Alcatraz," is orderly and clean, multiple reports and first-hand accounts say the opposite.
Regina de Moraes, a Miami immigration attorney, says one of her clients was transferred from the tent camp to the Krome Detention Center, another nearby Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) detention facility, on Monday for a bond hearing.
Krome has also been plagued by reports of overcrowding and poor conditions, but de Moraes' client told her "Alligator Alcatraz" is even worse.
"They are in cages like animals at the zoo," de Moraes says. "There's barely food to eat. The electricity goes off all the time, so the air conditioning is coming and going. Also that becomes an issue with the toilets, because the toilets don't function when there's no electricity."
The description echoes other reports from detainees, their families, and lawyers and lawmakers. The Associated Press reported last Friday that "people held there say worms turn up in the food. Toilets don't flush, flooding floors with fecal waste, and mosquitoes and other insects are everywhere."
"The conditions in which we are living are inhuman," a Venezuelan detainee told the A.P. by phone from the facility. "My main concern is the psychological pressure they are putting on people to sign their self-deportation."
Family members who spoke to the Miami Herald similarly described a lack of showers, toilets without water, and oppressive heat and bugs.
A Guatemalan woman told CNN that her husband, a detainee at the camp, went six days without a shower. "The detainees are being held in tents, and it is very hot there," the woman said. "They're in bad conditions.…There's not enough food. Sick people are not getting medication. Every time I ask about his situation, he tells me it's bad."
A group of Democratic lawmakers was allowed limited access to the camp on Saturday—two days after filing a lawsuit over being denied entry—but was not allowed to view the units where detainees are currently being held or the medical facilities.
"They are essentially packed into cages, wall-to-wall humans, 32 detainees per cage," Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D–Fla.) told reporters.
The Eighth Amendment guarantees prisoners the right to basic healthcare, hygiene, and adequate living conditions.
The Florida Division of Emergency Management, which constructed and manages the detention camp, has repeatedly insisted these reports are false and that plumbing and other amenities at the facility are in good working order. It also says that detainees have regular access to phone and video calls on request.
The lack of legal access at the detention camp, though, is harder to wave off. The Trump administration's mass deportation initiative has attempted to limit detainees' due process ability to challenge removals at every step.
Because the detention center is run by the State of Florida, rather than the federal government, it creates transparency problems and legal muddiness over jurisdiction. People transferred to the detention center disappear from a federal immigration detainee locator system, and attorneys have found it nearly impossible to get answers from Florida officials on how to reach their clients.
De Moraes says her client was held in the camp for eight days and nine nights in total, but she was never able to visit him.
"One individual was able to see their attorney one time, but after that, it seems that the facility blocked attorney visits," she says. "I requested through [ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations] and also through the email that they gave reporters. Nobody responds to me. Nobody gets back to me."
The Miami Herald reported yesterday on attorneys' struggles to arrange phone calls and interviews with their clients.
"I've called, I've emailed everybody and their grandmother and their grandmother's sister. Nobody emails you back and nobody calls you back," Atara Eig, a Miami immigration attorney, told the Miami Herald.
Lack of timely access to legal counsel and family can have profound consequences in federal immigration court, where there's an emphasis on expediency. It also generally makes it harder for attorneys to give their clients the best defense.
"When I did my bond motion, I put in just approximate facts that I knew from the documents that I gathered and from speaking to my client's sister, but I hadn't had access to my client to get the nitty-gritty of what an attorney should put in a bond motion," de Moraes says. "It harms my work, and it also harms, as an officer of the court, what I am writing in my motion and signing off on. It doesn't make me feel good about it."
Katie Blankenship, an attorney with Sanctuary of the South, told the A.P. she was denied entry to Alligator Alcatraz after driving and waiting hours to speak with clients, including a 15-year-old Mexican boy with no criminal charges. She said she was told to wait for a phone call in 48 hours to notify her when she could return.
"I said, well, what's the phone number that I can follow up with that? There is none," Blankenship told the A.P. "You have due process obligations, and this is a violation of it."
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The solution is to ship the illegal aliens back to their home countries ASAP. Problem solved.
Or an agreed to 3rd country when home countries dont allow repatriation.
The Gay Old Pedos are back to their old ways under Hastert and Foley and Epstein…I bet Foley is volunteering to guard this facility and Hastert is trying to get transferred there! 😉
Or at least give them this option - stay in A-A, or get a one-way ticket back to your shithole country.
That option is on the table for all of them. In fact the article references one of them complaining about pressure to self deport. If they are there longer than the time needed to schedule a flight out it is only because they have an eager lawyer telling them they can somehow stay. It's bullshit and the lawyers know it. If they have a deportation order they will be deported. End of story.
This is the rational response. If conditions are really that bad, then can't detainees just stop fighting their deportation orders? If they don't have a legitimate challenge then that seems like the smart choice.
I also have to wonder if the conditions described are really that much worse than their own shithole countries they are being told to return to.
Oh noes! It’s not like Disney world!
It is for Hastert and Foley! The Gay Old Pedos are back to their old ways under Hastert and Foley and Epstein…I bet Foley is volunteering to guard this facility and Hastert is trying to get transferred there! 😉
Copy pasta crap
Kidnap traffic rape…the motto of the GOP—Gay Old Pedos!
Fuck off shrike.
My God! That's terrible!
Were they all somehow arrested on a January 6th?
You are a proud member of the GOP, aka, Gay Old Pedos!! Epstein committed suicide!!! ????
Found one.
I notice you aren’t looking for pedos…you might find one at the next GOP convention…Gay Old Pedos convention!!! Lololololol!!
HaHa.
Nelson Muntz
Jeez, you guys told us to make them feel at home?
I wonder which one of those claims above is actually true?
Like climate change, alligator Alcatraz has been described as both too hot and too cold.
I blame alligator farts.
They said the Md gang member, wife abuser, and human trafficker was just a Maryland father too.
Since the definition doesn't says squalid or anything about lack of legal access, then I guess its not a concentration camp.
Missed the part where it talks about aliens illegally in a country that are being detained awaiting deportation back to their homeland.
sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution.
So the key element is missing but you keep blathering away regardless. Reality just isn't a consideration for left wingers.
The "he's Hitler" rhetoric is embedded too deep.
But none will actually fight like it's true, so this is just sour grapes.
You're ok with calling FDR's camps for Japs "concentration camps". I'm sure you were fine with calling Australian quarantines "concentration camps."
Why is herding politically undesirable people into inhumane conditions and depriving them of legal rights not a "concentration camp"?
Oh, I know! I know! It's because of who is doing it!
And don't tell me you don't get the warm and fuzzies when you hear about illegals being treated like animals. I know you do. It makes you happy. It makes you wish you were there to give them beatings yourself.
FDR’s internment camps were concentration camps. The majority were American citizens that had not committed any act against the US (including staying in the US illegally for the others) that warranted detainment/incarceration.
There is an appreciable difference between throwing US citizens in a concentration camp because they had Japanese ancestry and temporarily detaining illegal aliens of any/all ancestry who are in the US illegally prior to their deportation.
The difference is that these people broke into our home and are staying here unwelcome. They should be glad they aren't already in El Salvador.
The difference is that these people broke into our home and are staying here unwelcome.
"This land is your land, this land is my land, from California, to the New York island..." - an avowed communist
They didn't break into my home. They didn't break into your home. They didn't break into their landlord's home. They didn't break into their employer's home. They didn't break into their grocer's home. Not unless you're a collectivist communist.
They didn't break into my home.
Didn’t have a box cutter.
Lol.
The empties scattered around the refrigerator box provides an obstacle to cardboard box home invaders and serves as an alarm system. ADTDS
No they didn't. They showed up at your door and said, give me a room, feed me, educate me, give me a job and free medical care because America has far more opportunities than the country I came from and even though citizens and legal residents do not get all this free stuff, I am a human and have the right to due process and free stuff.
They didn't show up at my door and say anything. Unless you're a collectivist and think that all doors, even the figurative ones, belong to you and everyone else. Are you a collectivist? You know, a leftist? A communist? Because that's what it sounds like to me. You don't welcome these people into your collectives, so they have no rights. They are political outsiders. Scapegoats. Enemies. That means that the place where you house them in filthy conditions without access to lawyers is a concentration camp. And you like it.
You really are moronic. You'd think someone who was homeless would care that even in Maine, spending on illegals was removed from homeless grant funds and spent on them bankrupting the system. But nope.
You are in complete denial that illegal immigration has any costs. Because you're bleeding heart leftist who hates all actual facts.
Lol. Even here sarc tries to call these concentration camps but uses scare quotes for when he was outraged over the Australian ones.
Even in this post he is a hypocritical piece of shit
Politically undesirable? WTF? They are free to leave and not be held there until they are deported. Since they were denied legal residence or asylum and decided to illegally remain in the US after being given a deportation notice, the last thing they should be complaining about is mosquito bites or sharing a toilet that another illegal plugged with all the free food they ate.
Since they were denied legal residence or asylum
Trump is creating illegals by revoking parole and visas of people who followed the rules, and he's not even telling them. One day they're legal. Next day they're not. That's politics. That makes them political prisoners.
Sarc still doesn't know what the word temporary means or that visas have conditions illegals have violated. Even as he ignores the 1M+ already woth final deportation orders still in country.
No, it fucking doesn’t. Stop with the histrionics, you’re getting as shrill as Old Mex.
Screaming "racist" isn't working so they've moved on to screaming "fascist". Their policy positions are losers so idiotic and juvenile smear campaigns are what they have. It's so much easier than getting better ideas.
Nobody is screaming "racist" except the voices in your head. Xenophobia is not racism. And these people are political prisoners because they lack government papers. That's why they're being hunted like animals. Not racism. Rather xenophobia and because they're political scapegoats. And you're fine with that. You smile when they're treated like animals and denied basic rights. You're happy when they can't access lawyers and are treated like dogs. Yet I'm the bad guy. Sure buddy. I'm not the one who celebrates cruelty. You are. You sick fuck. I sincerely hope that someday you're treated the way you like others to be treated.
LOL what is the color of the sky in your world?
Colt 45 amber
I'm sure it's different from the one you see that has a big, grinning orange face looking down on you promising that he loves you and that he's going to smite your political enemies.
Need your past comments?
Why the fuck do you lie so easily?
Nobody is screaming "racist" except the voices in your head
Liar.
The "key" element is "sometimes". Yeah. Sure. I think that's one of the dumbest things I've heard from you yet. And that's saying a lot.
The "key" element is "sometimes".
This is a lie. Propagandists use the term concentration camp specifically to create a link to the Nazi camps of which extermination and forced labor were integral. If that were not the case the left wouldn't bother using the term.
Propagandists know this they just do it anyway hoping that some small portion of the audience is too ignorant to understand. It's just another flavor of calling everyone who opposes them a fascist.
Says the guy who doesn't know what "sometimes" means.
FDR put Japanese people into concentration camps. They were political prisoners in inhumane conditions. That qualifies. Were they subject to forced labor or mass executions? No, they were not. Were they still in concentration camps? Yes they were.
By the way, have you applied for a job there yet? You love it when government does violence on people you hate for political reasons. Why aren't you there working as a guard?
You love it when government does violence on people you hate for political reasons. Why aren't you there working as a guard?
I'm so old I remember when sarc pretended he cared about ideas and not personal insults.
But as usual we see he asserts whatever he thinks scores a point without regard to logic, reason, or reality.
Dude, you're talking to an imaginary audience about me scoring points? I used to think you were an old dumb fuck. Now I wonder if you're old enough to vote.
The big difference being that FDR put citizens in camps whereas these are people with final deportation orders who refused to leave…
Let me guess, they're collecting uterus's there, too.
OMG! These people have to poop and brush their teeth in the same room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[insert the "You don't have to sell it to me" meme here]
But seriously, I doubt many of these complaints are particularly sincere. I also think that their continued publication is a helpful part of the plan to discourage further illegal immigration.
The writers here seem to have escaped from the National Enquirer.
Of course the lawyers and the families are going to say this. They always do. They try to drum up public support with outrageous claims. It's their job. Any journalist worth their salt knows this.
I'm not a law and order type. But such trial in the press by plaintiff's lawyers is getting old. This is more than propoganda. It's out and out lies. We need to start prosecuting trial lawyers who do this. Being a lawyer shouldn't excuse them from perjury and slander.
Just saying.
Yes to that. But if Reason didn't craft every article around the claims of plaintiff attorneys the pages would be blank.
They also regularly push Hamas propaganda. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BS! Where is the evidence, beyond one side, including illegals, their families and lawyers say so?
Shite, I had similar conditions at horse show grounds in Virgina years ago. The illegals who worked there didn't have any issues.
"The Eighth Amendment guarantees prisoners the right to basic healthcare, hygiene, and adequate living conditions."
Um no. The 8th prohibits cruel and unusual punishment. There are citizens all over the country that live in similar circumstances for years. It's not even slightly unusual. And the detainees at AA have a huge advantage over those citizens. They can check out any time they want and they can leave.
"They can check out any time they want and they can leave."
Really? So they are willingly staying in squalid conditions.
From the article:
"The conditions in which we are living are inhuman," a Venezuelan detainee told the A.P. by phone from the facility. "My main concern is the psychological pressure they are putting on people to sign their self-deportation."
Are they willingly staying? Why yes. Yes they are. They are free to self deport at any time. All it takes is a signature.
They’re willing to stay in detention in Florida rather than self-deport to their home country.
How much of a shithole are those places. Goddamn.
Guess how many have already chosen self deportation dumdum.
"The conditions in which we are living are inhuman," a Venezuelan detainee told the A.P. by phone from the facility. "My main concern is the psychological pressure they are putting on people to sign their self-deportation."
Yes exactly. Save yourself and the American people the costs and pain of your illegal entry, self deport, take the $1000 and apply legally.
1. If thing are so bad then others should just leave to avoid them.
2. 'Worms' sounds.loke coaching from people who have never seen actual rotting food. Maggots or bugs is the terms the rest of the world would use.
3. It's FL. I am enjoying a slight breeze on 105 degree weather right now where I live. The humidity probably makes it unpleasant but I've lived in FL - they're not in inhuman conditions because the AC goes out sometimes.
Remember when you threw a tantrum because you wanted Elian Gonzalez to remain with his American kidnappers?? I assume Hastert and Foley were going to tag team him if he hadn’t been sent back to his father??
Ah, Communist fellow traveler.
There is no level of cruelty that is too harsh for MAGAs to oppose. MAGAs are inhumane fascist shits.
They are being treated better than any of the J6ers locked up.
The Republican House Page Scandal was going on at the same time as the Epstein criminal investigation…coincidence?? And now your argument is Republicans can be pedos because J6!! How low can you sink in defense of the Gay Old Pedos!!
Those traitorous scum got far less than they deserved. The only one who got true justice was Babbitt.
Thank you for proving you have no actual morals. I will continue to dismiss your retarded appeals to morality.
Stop the ste!
The last words of Ashtray Babbitt that will inspire a new generation of patriots! Gee, I wonder what she meant by “ste”?? 😉
Good for you Molly. You avoided use of the word "Nazi."
*pats head*
Nobody cares. Not a one of them is forced to stay there. They do so of their own volition, meaning they both consent to and accept the conditions in which they now find themselves.
Anyone who doesn't like can self-deport at any time. We'll even help them do so.
"The conditions in which we are living are inhuman," a Venezuelan detainee told
Is it better than Venezuela? If it's worse, then go back to Venezuela. If it's better, then show us a little damned gratitude for your better life in A-Traz you entitled whiny POS.
The Eighth Amendment guarantees prisoners
They're not prisoners. 8A does not apply here.