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Executive Power

The Attack on Iran Is Unlawful

Trump's attack on Iran plainly violates the War Powers Act. Limits on executive power are most important when they are inconvenient.

Eric Boehm | 6.22.2025 11:20 AM

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President Trump speaking following his strike on Iran | Carlos Barria - via CNP/Polaris/Newscom
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Hours after the U.S. bombed several sites in Iran, President Donald Trump called the operation a "spectacular military success."

Whether or not that turns out to be true, the attack looks rather different as a legal matter. Trump appears to have significantly overstepped his authority, as the attack was not authorized by Congress and was not in response to an attack on American soil or American troops. The best the White House has been able to come up with so far is that Trump acted under the legal authority "afforded to him as Commander in Chief," as a White House official told Real Clear Politics on Saturday night.

Sorry, but that simply isn't good enough.

Under the War Powers Act of 1973, the law that governs presidential authority to order military strikes, there are three lawful ways for a commander-in-chief to order the bombing of another country. None of them appears to cover the strikes carried out on Saturday.

Here is the relevant section of the law (emphasis added): "The constitutional powers of the President as Commander-in-Chief to introduce United States Armed Forces into hostilities, or into situations where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances, are exercised only pursuant to (1) a declaration of war, (2) specific statutory authorization, or (3) a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

The first two options provided by the law are clearly not involved here, as Congress did not declare war against Iran and did not pass an authorization for the use of military force (as was done to allow the invasion of Iraq in 2002).

The third circumstance also does not apply to Trump's attack on Iran, which was not carried out in response to an attack on American troops and did not respond to a crisis threatening American soil. As Reason's Matthew Petti wrote in the wake of the attack last night: "This campaign is a war of choice. And the administration did not try to sell it to Congress—let alone the American people—before embarking on it. Instead, Trump watched Israel launch a first strike on Iran, then threatened to get involved, talking himself into a corner. Now he seems to be hoping that Iran simply won't respond to being attacked."

The War Powers Act does not include a clause allowing presidents to bomb other countries just because. It also—despite the fact that the law is frequently discussed in political media in these terms—does not allow a window of 48 hours for the president to do whatever he pleases before alerting Congress and seeking further authorization.

That 48-hour window (as outlined in a subsequent section of the War Powers Act) applies only if the president is engaged in a lawful use of military force—that is, if he is acting in accordance with one of the three mechanisms built into the first section of the law.

"If there's an attack in progress on the United States (i.e., currently happening), we expect the president to respond swiftly to neutralize the attack and protect Americans—and then we will hold the president to account," explained former Rep. Justin Amash (L–Mich.) in a post on X. "The Framers of the Constitution agreed at the debates in the federal convention of 1787 that the president should have the 'power to repel sudden attacks' but not the power to otherwise introduce forces into hostilities without congressional approval."

Some current members of Congress seem to be greeting the news of Saturday's attack with appropriate skepticism about Trump's authority.

"This is not constitutional," Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) wrote on X after Trump announced the attack. Massie introduced a bipartisan resolution last week to block the use of military force against Iran without congressional authorization, but the measure has not received a vote.

"While President Trump's decision may prove just, it's hard to conceive a rationale that's Constitutional," Rep. Warren Davidson (R–Ohio) wrote on X.

Some Democrats, including Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D–N.Y.) and Rep. Sean Casten (D–Ill.), said Trump's decision to strike Iran without congressional authorization should be grounds for impeachment. That is one option that should be on the table as Congress considers how to respond to Trump's ordering of this attack.

But there are unlikely to be any direct political consequences for Trump as long as House Speaker Mike Johnson (R–La.) is willing to look the other way. In a statement released on Saturday night, Johnson said the strikes were "necessary, limited, and targeted."

Even if that is true, it would just underline the importance of getting approval from Congress. The White House could have made the case to lawmakers (and their constituents) that a strike against Iran's nuclear facilities was necessary and in the best interest of the United States.

The War Powers Act should not be treated as a series of suggestions that can be discarded when they seem inconvenient. Indeed, limits on executive power are most essential at the moments when they are inconvenient—otherwise, they are meaningless. Trump's attack on Iran was not just an assault on a suspected nuclear weapons program; it was yet another blow against the separation of powers and the fundamental structure of the American constitutional system.

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  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    This seems to be the new demcorat talking point. And of course sullum runs with it.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2025/06/22/the-claude-rains-school-of-constitutional-law-democrats-denounce-iranian-attack-as-unconstitutional/#comments

    The War Powers Act has always been controversial and largely ineffectual. Presidents have long asserted the inherent powers to conduct such attacks under their Article II authority as the designated Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces. The WPA requires the President to inform Congress within 48 hours in a written notice to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate of the action.

    The WPA further bars the use of armed forces in such a conflict for more than 60 days without congressional authorization for use of military force (AUMF) or a declaration of war by the United States. There is a further 30-day withdrawal period.

    Trump notified congress within 48 hours.

    Turkey even cites the controlling case.

    President Trump reportedly did immediately notify Congress after the attack under the WPA .

    Presidents have routinely ignored the WPA when it limited their ability to conduct foreign military operations. In 1999, Clinton ignored the 60-day deadline and continued to bomb forces in Kosovo. His actions were also challenged, but the court in Campbell v. Clinton just shrugged off the violation and said it was a non-justiciable political question.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      And i will add for sarc and his retarded socks like alberto I was against the US action. But that doesn't mean it is illegal or unconstitutional.

      Of course you idiots were also celebrating Schumer calling Trump a coward with his TACO post 3 weeks ago.

      1. BYODB   2 months ago

        Yeah, I'm not a fan of U.S. strikes on Iran since Israel seems to be doing fine all on their own.

        Know what though? In the grand scheme of things, bombing Iran is less bullshit than Obama sending them over a billion dollars in cash. If Iran wanted those American weapons, they shouldn't have overthrown the guy that bought them.

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          I think we’re just hitting the sites that require bunker busters.

          1. BYODB   2 months ago

            Bombs are bombs, and they are dropping in Iran. Not that I'm overly upset by bombing a theocratic state looking to create nuclear weapons, but it should probably require a bit more than the whim of the President to do it.

            Since it doesn't require more than that right now though, it is what it is. At least there aren't American troops invading, and it's unlikely there will be any at least for the foreseeable future.

            Congress hasn't done anything about this for way longer than I've been alive, and it seems they aren't willing to do anything about it now either so I have reason to suspect their rending of garments is performative.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

              ^ This is where I’m at too.

              “Fuck it, let’s go bowling.”

            2. 5.56   2 months ago

              "At least there aren't American troops invading, and it's unlikely there will be any at least for the foreseeable future."

              Carry on, clingers.

          2. Rob Misek   2 months ago

            Israel commits a holocaust in Gaza. The US supplies bombs and funds to help the Jews commit the atrocity.

            US citizens protest the Jewish crimes against humanity. The US government violates is own constitution and laws to suppress the protests.

            Israel launches an unprovoked attack on Iran to start WW3. The US violates the nuclear nonproliferation treaty by attacking Iran for complying with the treaty.

            Are you wondering what it means to be a US citizen, or if you’re really a citizen of Israel?

            1. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

              RM;dr

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                Refuted!

                Also:

                Retarded!

            2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

              Refuted. You’re a fucking Nazi joke.

            3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

              Misek, are you the Sarcasmic sock for when he wants to be honest?

            4. I Callahan   2 months ago

              "Israel commits a holocaust in Gaza."

              Uh, who are you, and what planet are you from?

          3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            They used tomahawks too in a coordinated attack on 2 other locations.

        2. diver64   2 months ago

          I personally think that Trump should have sent the bombs to Israel and let them do it as they appear to have the situation well in hand. The problem might be that Israel had no way to deliver the bombs

          1. JoeB   2 months ago

            I'd rather Israel not have that technology. Nothing could stop their expansionist ambitions then, not even Trump.

      2. GroundTruth   2 months ago

        So, I'll flip that for you and say that I'm glad he did it, but the action was clearly in contradiction to the WPA text and intent.

        1. Bruce Hayden   2 months ago

          Maybe the intent of the WPA, but arguably he did brief the requisite members of Congress before the strikes, as well as notified Congress w/i 48 hours.

          1. Nelson   2 months ago

            I believe that clause only matters if there was already authorization given. It isn’t valid without a previous authorization.

            I know that the MAGA faithful are glomming on to that clause, but unless you take it out of context (context being the WPA) it isn’t pertinent. He got no authorization.

          2. diver64   2 months ago

            The CNN story that "according to un named sources" Trump did not notify Congressional leaders has been soundly refuted. Trump did not have to notify anyone before the strikes but he did place courtesy calls to Schumer, Thune and Johnson. He tried to reach Jefferies but was unable to.
            The reason everyone was surprised including Iran was because Trump didn't notify any of the people on the outside giving time for them to leak it. He learned a hard lesson in his first administration and started this one firing deep state leakers especially at the Pentagon.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      And even democrats that can seemingly be honest at times are admitting it.

      dan turrentine
      @danturrentine
      It was too depressing to write this last night, after we got off air, so I went to bed. But, it needs to be said by more Democrats: this was not an impeachable offense, and Trump did not need congressional approval for one precision attack under the circumstances, just as Obama did not when striking Bin Laden. Why can’t our Party just say it’s great we achieved the objective and destroyed Iran’s nuclear sites, god bless the soldiers who carried this out and made it home safely, god bless our country, military, allies, and we look forward to a full intel briefing. If one must then assert Congressional authority at the moment, add that any escalation will require congressional approval. And if you must, express concern for where this may go and what might come next.

      But, for so many in my Party to knee jerk with unhinged calls for impeachment - and sadly omit in their statement support for Iran not having nuclear weapons, which has been a principle of our Party for 40 years -is truly TDS.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        TDS is as TDS does.

        1. 5.56   2 months ago

          The republicans are toast.

          1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Maybe you'll be right someday, reverend micropenis. Today is not that day. Nor is it likely to be any day while you're still alive.

      2. American Socialist   2 months ago

        Why can’t our Party just say it’s great we achieved the objective and destroyed Iran’s nuclear sites, god bless the soldiers who carried this out and made it home safely, god bless our country, military, allies, and we look forward to a full intel briefing.

        Yeah, why can’t we just celebrate an unprovoked military attack on a country that never threatened or attacked us. Then, why can’t we say how great the know-nothing troops in the American military just killed a bunch of scientists working in a nuclear plant. Bombing a nuclear facility is a war crime, but what about the optics for the midterms?

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          'Unprovoked' is an odd claim for one of the biggest financiers of international terrorism on the planet.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            But as long as AmSoc sees them as allies in the Global Struggle, all is good.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          Do not engage the asshole Am Soc; simply reply with insults.
          Not a one of his posts is worth refuting; like turd he lies and never does anything other than lie. If something in one of Am Soc’s posts is not a lie, it is there by mistake. Am Soc lies; it's what he does.

        3. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

          Yeah, that "death to America" chant was code for Iran wanting to be friends.

          When someone consistently tells you their plans, believe them.

        4. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          Iran has regularly threatened us since 1979. They were also plotting to kill Trump last year. But of course you’re on their side.

          AmSoc, always with the terrorists.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            More than threats. Paid various terrorist groups. Bombing barracks. Etc.

            Wonder how reason will spin an Iranian sleeper cell who came in under lax immigration laws if they do something domestically.

            1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

              AmSoc will cheer on any terror attacks carried out by Iran. That is certain.

        5. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

          "unprovoked military attack"

          I'm 99% anti-war, but get the fuck out with this shit.

          1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

            I am starting to think this is a sarc sock. "Unprovoked" here is right out of The Sarctonary: A Box of Malapropisms.

            AmericanSocia1st was the buttplug sock. Sarc isn't even original is his sock puppeting.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              The only socks I've seen were run by idiots who I have on mute that are so desperate for my attention that they pay money for new accounts, only to be immediately ignored. You know, the ones who incorporate my name into their handle and structure their lives around stalking me.

      3. diver64   2 months ago

        Dan is a good and honest commentator from the left. He remembers Pelosi's statements on more than one occasion that Iran can not be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Just because a president you don't like is in office doesn't mean you abandon all previous positions in opposition to everything he does.
        Mark's 2-Way podcast and youtube is a must watch every day. Great conversation. Today, Monday, will be lit.

    3. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      Insisting Trump obey the Constituion is now a "talking point".

      MAGAs are the most traitorous dumb ass fucks the US has ever seen.

      1. rswallen   2 months ago

        No, insisting, in-between rabid foam-speckled screeching, that Trump currently isn't obeying the constitution with this military strike, that is a talking point.

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        Like when nigbama drowned us citizens?

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        No, finding love for the Constitution only since early 2025 is traitorous--and transparently retarded.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Thinking the constitution is what they think it is instead of ever reading it is more traitorous.

      4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Molly, when you got your fake PhD did they tell you never to read citations?

      5. diver64   2 months ago

        Were you writing that when Biden, Obama and Clinton didn't follow the Constitution? No? Then shut up with the faux outrage. Situational Constitutionalism is not a thing. Your either in or your out. Dems including progressive trolls like you have been out for decades.

      6. jimc5499   2 months ago

        Crawl back under your rock and stay there.

    4. Riva   2 months ago

      All presidents, democrats and republicans, reject the WPA as unconstitutional.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Cite? Turley goes through the president's who have used it. And went to court over it.

        Does the left just spout retarded uninformed shit due to habit?

        1. Riva   2 months ago

          Presidents may voluntarily submit reports consistent with the WPA but none concede that their commander and chief authority is subject to the act. Some just ignore it. Clinton did.

          And I don't really know what you mean by court review. To the extent it has been the subject of any suit, courts dismiss the case as a non-justiciable political question and no case addressing the constitutionality of the WPA has ever reached the supreme court (where it would be dismissed anyway as non-justiciable).

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            To the extent it has been the subject of any suit, courts dismiss the case as a non-justiciable political question and no case addressing the constitutionality of the WPA has ever reached the supreme court (where it would be dismissed anyway as non-justiciable).

            So you answered your own question.

            Many laws written by congress do just this, defer to article 2. In cases where congress writes a law that attempts to supersede article 2 powers, this is often the result.

            1. Riva   2 months ago

              What? That’s basically gibberish. And I didn’t ask a question. I made a point. And why attack me? I don’t oppose the president’s actions.

              1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                And I don't really know what you mean by court review.

                Oh. So you added this meaningless sentence then answered what the court review was in the past then claimed it was gibberish despite me stating you answered your own confusion.

                Glad to have another retard to be friends with sarc. You two would be happy together.

    5. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      "In 1999, Clinton ignored the 60-day deadline and continued to bomb forces in Kosovo."

      But, but, but ... That's (D)ifferent!!!

      The only thing Boehms 1941 Resolution shows is Democrats have been playing the "That's (D)ifferent" game for quite some time now. They could've repealed FDR[D] and subsequent Legislation they wrote years ago.... But oh, no! That's (D)ifferent.

    6. diver64   2 months ago

      Apparently the dipshit that wrote the article didn't have time to actually read the War Powers Act passed in 1973 over Nixon's veto. There are not " three lawful ways for a commander-in-chief to order the bombing of another country." There are 4: a, b, c and d.
      D) pursuant to specific statutory authorization, but authority to introduce the Armed Forces of the United States into hostilities shall not be inferred from any provision of law, including any provision contained in any appropriation act, unless such provisions specifically authorized the introduction of such Armed Forces in hostilities and exempts the introduction of such armed forces from compliance with the provisions of this Act.

      That "statutory authorization" is where the 48 hour notification comes from. Trump, like it or not, was well within his authority to bomb Iran just like Clinton and Obama were. Hell, Obama bombed 7 different countries including Libya with the Dems cheering him on.

      Massie and others do no like the authorization and has always thought the Constitution prevailed no matter what the laws passed by Congress say and he has a point. For others to suddenly screech about Trump following the law passed by Congress to the letter is just unhinged TDS.

  2. CindyF   2 months ago

    Ah, the Trump "exception" to all prior policies and presidential actions strikes again!

    TDS is a terrible disease. Discovering a treatment or cure should be our nation's medical research teams' top priority.

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

      What did Sudan ever do to America?

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Eric is a comms major with TDS so he knows better than law scholars and courts.

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        He should probably be involuntarily committed to an insane asylum.

      2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        How about Massie or Rand or Ron Paul?

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          How about them?

          I might like all those guys, but they often speak to what should be rather than what is.

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            It is meant to counter dismissing the opposition as coms majors or liberals. Conservative libertarians are also opponents and are well educated on the subject.

            1. BYODB   2 months ago

              If Rand or Massie have stated that this is not the law it would be news to me.

              They aren't fans of how the law is currently structured, but they obviously recognize that this is actually how things stand today.

              Also, for what it's worth, the vast majority of their fellow Senators and Congresspeople disagree with them in particular. I might happen to agree with them, but if you're arguing based on their position it seems notable that the majority of people in their same position do not agree with their minority opinion.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                They did state it is not constitutional.

                What's the majority opinion have to do with this? The majority agrees the constitution should be disregarded. I disagree.

                1. BYODB   2 months ago

                  The majority opinion only matters because you have based your argument on the authority of a Senator and a Congressman. Since it is, essentially, an appeal to authority argument it is notable that the vast majority of other people with the same authority do not agree with those two in particular.

                  That you or I happen to agree with the minority on that point is, of course, irrelevant.

                  I will, however, note that Letters of Marque were also delegated to the President as far back as the Revolutionary War so it's questionable if that particular article in the Constitution has ever actually been honored. Their abdication of authority goes back to the very first day of it's existence.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    The majority opinion only matters because you have based your argument on the authority of a Senator and a Congressman

                    I see. I think we are arguingnpast each other.

                    I am not basing my argument on the authority of congressmen (although i did happen to choose congressmen, so I can see why you would think so). I based my argument on the authority of conservative libertarians. Elsewhere I included Scott Horton and Tom Woods. My point is to debunk the narrative that's forming (I'm not claiming you are pushing this though) that thinking this is wrong/illegal is a the left/dem specific stance.

                    Otherwise your points are quite correct.

        2. diver64   2 months ago

          What about them? They have been consistent in their views for years. Disagree with them if you want but they don't change them depending on who is President like the left do.

        3. JoeB   2 months ago

          Love those guys! I'm still happy Iran has no more nukes for the foreseeable future. What good is empire if you can't reach out and smite someone?

    3. Gearpin   2 months ago

      Exactly. Obama bombed the shit out of the middle east for years and no one batted a eye. People like Boehm truly are mentally ill.

      1. BYODB   2 months ago

        In fairness, a whole bunch of us 'batted an eye' but nobody listened to us then. Since we know Democrats and Republicans both don't give a shit about this particular thing, we can only assume they don't want Trump in particular to use the same justifications both of them have used for decades to bomb places.

        While I might be in favor of reform in this arena, I'm not in favor of only certain parties or Presidents being able to bomb whomever they want without repercussions. Saying Trump is uniquely unable to bomb places is bullshit, and if more people had given a damn under Bush, Obama, or Biden we wouldn't be here now. None of the establishment is saying the President can't do this, they are saying Trump can't do this. There is a difference.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Equality of law and process is a key component of libertarians. Many of the writers and leftists here are against that concept.

        2. windycityattorney   2 months ago

          Since 9/11 presidents dropped bombs all over the middle east citing the global war on terror as the justification and the AUMF against al queda and its affiliates as the legal justification.

          Because terrorists don't necessarily follow geographic boundaries - whether they were in Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or somewhere else didn't matter.

          It was a flimsy legal excuse; especially many years after 9/11...but at least they had a legal rationale.

          What is Trump's legal rationale? Not wanting Iran to have a nuke is a rationale but not a legal one and about as believable as WMD in Iraq according to our own intelligence agencies. Wanting to help an ally in Israel is a rationale but not a legal justification.

          There are differences that the commenters here are working hard to ignore to justify what Trump did but the justifications don't address the legal question. The constitution quite deliberately put the War Power in Congress' hands. Trump has now seized it twice - both instances likely illegitimately. First with the alien enemies act bs now with this.

  3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    Didn't I just read the same article by a different Reason editor? I'm not a fan of this bombing but the WPA won't save you.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      It is all over leftist reddit. The same arguments. Think that is where Reason sources most of their arguments.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Is that, like, journalism?

    2. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

      Yeah, these are going to be the lede for Reason for at least a month no matter what happens.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        But what about TARIFFS!

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          And Villarreal!!!

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            What's amazing about reasons journalist soft spot is it is only a soft spot one way. The fucking ignore journalists getting battered by groups like antifa.

            https://www.foxnews.com/media/seattle-journalists-attacked-agitators-call-out-far-left-media-covering-up-violence-protests

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Tariffs bombed Iran, not Trump. Prove mr wrong.

  4. JFree   2 months ago

    OMG. Unlawful? Well that changes everything.

  5. Gearpin   2 months ago

    FFS!
    Now do Clinton
    Now do Bush
    Now do Obama who from 2014 to 2017 dropped 70,000 to 80,000 bombs in the middle east totaling tens of millions of pounds. You and your hypocrisy can fuck right off.
    Iran having a nuke is a good thing?
    Fuck off Boehm.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      But criticizing Trump? Priceless!

    2. DesigNate   2 months ago

      In their defense, they bitched about those too. But I don’t remember the hyperbole.

    3. GroundTruth   2 months ago

      "He did it first" is getting tired.

      They can ALL be wrong, and were.

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

        True, but when you allow something to continue unabated for a couple of generations it becomes precedent. And any prosecution of something you've been allowing for everyone else should be considered selective prosecution, which is illegal in every other circumstance.

        You didn't clutch your pearls and scream "impeachment!", but to those who are: Your issue is with the legislative branch, which hasn't done its job in most readers' lifetimes. They willingly / gleefully abdicated their power to the executive so they couldn't be pinned down on a voting record. You want to impeach somebody, start there. Impeach every member of Congress who has voted "present" or skipped sticky votes.

      2. jimc5499   2 months ago

        "He did it first"
        I believe in legal terms that's called precedent. A Court refused to call it "criminal" when Clinton bombed Kosovo and set the standard.
        I'm not taking political sides here. In the 80's I had plenty of problems with Reagan. I wasn't too thrilled about getting shot at and not being allowed to return fire. In my opinion they should have saved one of those bombs for the State Department.

    4. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      When it comes to TDS, it is all about who, not what. - strawcasmic

  6. Don't look at me! ( #1 on the “mute” list again!)   2 months ago

    This is so yesterday.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      When does reason go full misek? About 83% there.

      Some of the leftist tweets on this are insane.

      Pro free Palestine protesters, even those who are violent.

      Repeating hamas propaganda.

      Mourns Iranian generals.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

        Where is Misek anyway?

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          He’s around.

      2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Yep. This stuff really exposes the Jew haters.

        1. Jim Conley   2 months ago

          Fuck the Jews, bitch!

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            Ok. Bring me Gal Gadot!

            1. Ersatz   2 months ago

              😉

  7. American Socialist   2 months ago

    Eh… the article is ok, but the Trumpian whataboutism in the comments is the problem.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Do you wake up planning to be a retard or does that just pop into your mind later?

      1. American Socialist   2 months ago

        You guys are the ones talking about Sudan and something something Obama did back in 2014. I opposed those things too. Talk about retarded.

        1. Use the Schwartz   2 months ago

          Find the post here and prove it, you're a sock right?

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Am Soc is a psychopathic liar; he is too stupid to recognize the fact, but everybody knows it. You might just as well attempt to reason with or correct a random handful of mud as engage Am Soc.
      Do not engage Am Soc; simply reply with insults; Am Soc deserves nothing other.

  8. American Socialist   2 months ago

    Just like 2003, when most Democrats opposed a Republican war of choice.

    1. BYODB   2 months ago

      Name the Democrats that didn't vote to go fuck up Iraq.

      1. SRG2   2 months ago

        The Democrats made the mistake of trusting the Republicans. Obama voted against, IIRC.

        1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          That’s why he earned the Nobel Peace Prize!

        2. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Obama wasn’t in office in 2003, guvnah.

          1. SRG2   2 months ago

            My bad -my recollection was faulty. He was at the time a state senator, and spoke out against it.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              You cant keep track of your lies and narratives shrike.

            2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

              Oh, he spoke out against war when he was a state senator!

              What did he do when he was president again shrike?

          2. BYODB   2 months ago

            I had no idea the Illinois Senate got a vote on this.

            1. SRG2   2 months ago

              See response above

              1. Don't look at me! ( #1 on the “mute” list again!)   2 months ago

                Fail.

                1. SRG2   2 months ago

                  Unlike cretins like you, when I am wrong I admit it.

                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    No you dont. Majority of your posts would be admitting to being wrong. They aren't.

              2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                Just admit you're a retarded democrat lol.

        3. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

          Was that a rare occasion when Captain Vote "Present" actually cast a definitive vote?

        4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Lol. Shrike always defending democrats no matter how retarded the argument.

  9. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    So a nuclear armed Iran, leading directly to an exchange of nukes with Israel, is the better choice?
    Got it.

    1. American Socialist   2 months ago

      No, basically a nuclear armed Iran keeps American thugs from invading your country. It’s North Korea vs Iraq.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        EVIL CAPITALISTS!

      2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        You’re just an outright traitor.

    2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      There was no evidence Iran was developing a weapon. Can we attack Italy to prevent them from developing a weapon?

      1. JFree   2 months ago

        Yes we can. And should. Even if Italy's military wouldn't have the slightest idea what to do with a nuclear weapon

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Italians only work sixth hours a day four days a week and spend the summer months on the beach. I'm not sure they can be trusted with a bomb.

          1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 months ago

            Homer Simpsontino: 'Hey, who's a watchin' da bomb.'
            Johnny Cappuccino: 'It's a beautiful day. Fuggedaboutit.'

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        There was no evidence Iran was developing a weapon.

        Except for shitloads of documentation and the fucking Islamic Republic of Iran itself saying it was, there's nO eViDeNcE.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          What documentation? From who?

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

            Aside from the sources you will handwave away, the UN, the International Atomic Energy Agency, and Iran itself.

            You're way too ill-informed to be trying to fifty-cent here Tony. I hope that they don't pay you for low effort shit like you're trying to pull here.

            1. DesigNate   2 months ago

              She’s not ill informed. She’s lying. And possibly retarded.

              1. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

                This^

              2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

                Tony is a dude. I don’t care if he’s gone full tranny or not.

                1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

                  Look at the biologist over here.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          According to Scott Horton, Ron Paul, Tom Woods and confirmed by Tulsi Gabbard Iran was intentionally staying just short of a nuclear weapon for the past decade as a diplomacy/negotiating tactic.

          https://tomwoods.com/ep-2656-scott-horton-on-iran-and-israel/

          They won't make that mistake again. I bet they have a nuke within 2 years now. They'd be fools not to. This and Ukraine are both valuble lessons for non-nuclear nations.

          1. JFree   2 months ago

            I would imagine the timeline is shorter than that. I assume that once Trump withdrew from JCPOA, Iran built new underground facilities which remain unlocated and unused. More under the control of the military and IRGC. For that final step. Fordow was used to ramp up as many kg as possible to 60%.

            That HEU has now been moved from Fordow. Presumably to the new facilities.

            So the only real question is have the Iranians solved the warhead shaping issues. Followed by the political question of how the Iranians will now stop IAEA inspections until such time as they can formally withdraw from NPT.

            1. JoeB   2 months ago

              Iran is no longer a sovereign nation. Hence, inspectors will be everywhere, all the time.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        You are such a transparent ideological retard. Even the lame anti-US technocrats from the UN documented the Iranian nuclear (and weapons) program. And have you forgotten statements from the ayatollahs and their minions?

      4. rswallen   2 months ago

        Surely even you will agree that this circumstantial evidence is of concern.
        https://www.reuters.com/world/china/iaea-report-says-iran-had-secret-activities-with-undeclared-nuclear-material-2025-05-31/

        > A separate IAEA report sent to member states on Saturday said Iran's stock of uranium enriched to up to 60% purity, close to the roughly 90% of weapons grade, had grown by roughly half to 408.6 kg. That is enough, if enriched further, for nine nuclear weapons, according to an IAEA yardstick.
        > Both IAEA reports said enrichment to such a high level was "of serious concern" since it is the only country to do so without producing nuclear weapons.

        1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

          "Serious concern" is not proof. Especially since there is even more overwhelming evidence that they did not have a weapons program.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            Move those goalposts.

          2. DenverJ   2 months ago

            So... what did we just bomb?

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Aid production centers for Palestinians.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                With free transgender clinics.

              2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

                Don’t forget about all the daycares for the working mothers.

          3. rswallen   2 months ago

            I agree, this isn't concrete evidence (hence why I referred to it as circumstantial). But it is also a long way from being no evidence.
            Now, you claim there is overwhelming evidence of the inverse. Per chance, could you share some of it here, as I have done?

          4. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            Apparently Iran has like a dozen nuclear facilities. Non weapon uses for enriched uranium include medical devices and nuclear power plants neither of which requires anywhere near the enrichment that Iran currently has reportedly achieved. Nuclear power currently amounts to less than 1 percent of Iran's power generation and they have limitless power under their feet.

            1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

              But Tony says there is no proof!

          5. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

            Yes, when I build peaceful nuclear applications sites, I put them hundreds of feet below ground and play games with inspectors.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

              “….and play games with inspectors.”

              Ah yes, the “tragic boating accident” ruse. Well played, mullahs. And they’d have gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for that meddling orange man.

          6. GroundTruth   2 months ago

            Care to explain null data?

            The Iranians even said that there should be no worry about release of highly enriched uranium from this, since they had already moved it out of those sites. Sounds like an admission to me that they had the stuff. And to what other purpose that to build bombs?

          7. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

            If they didn’t have a weapons program, what did we just bomb 300 ft below a mountain?

      5. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        Trump's attack on Iran was not just an assault on a suspected nuclear weapons program

        Someone explain to the ‘tards how foolish they sound claiming Iran is enriching fuel for anything other than weapons.

        If you’re feeling generous, you might want to help them understand that “power plants” can be designed to produce weapons grade fuel even faster, even though we don’t do that in the US (see Chernobyl).

        1. Bruce Hayden   2 months ago

          There is one, and only one, realistic use for 60% enriched Uranium - to upgrade it to 90% enriched, for nuclear weapons. It cannot be used in a nuclear reactor, etc.

      6. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        There was tons of evidence you’d dumb piece of shit.

      7. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        There was a lot of evidence. Including minor quakes and enrichment past levels needed for energy.

        Again, your ignorance is not facts.

      8. I Callahan   2 months ago

        There was plenty of evidence. You purposely ignoring it doesn't change that.

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Was better when big O gave them billions on a pallet despite a court order stating the money eas for victims of terrorism so they could fund more terrorism.

    4. A Thinking Mind   2 months ago

      I’ve heard this one before. “There’s WMDs! We can’t let them have those.”

  10. Vesicant   2 months ago

    For your 'explanation' of the War Powers Act, you link to the Nixon Library? Now that's some irony.

    Anyway, the text you quote, 50 U.S. Code § 1541, is from the preamble (Purpose and Policy) and isn't the actual requirement.

    50 U.S. Code § 1542 only requires the president to consult with Congress when possible ("in every possible instance"). This clearly indicates that exigent circumstances may exist.

    50 U.S. Code § 1543 (48 hours) doesn't say anything about "lawful use," and in fact says "In the absence of a declaration of war." Why would Congress put that phrase in unless they understood that there could be situations without a formal declaration of war?

    1. SRG2   2 months ago

      This clearly indicates that exigent circumstances may exist

      And clearly there were no exigent circumstances here

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        I forgot the WPA clause that says to ask a dem pedophile pretending to be British by the name of shrike.

      2. I Callahan   2 months ago

        Yes, there were. You're just denying for the sake of denial.

    2. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      You can't just ignore parts of the law you don't like. And yes, I know MAGAs do that all the time, but they are stupid fucks.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        The retard is getting feisty. Did you occasionally act up on the short bus?

      2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        You ignore laws and facts you don’t like every day here Tony.

      3. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Tony, just go back to the bathhouse.

      4. I Callahan   2 months ago

        The same as you ignoring the evidence of exigent circumstances. When you stop ignoring reality, you'll have the moral permission to lecture others on ignorance. Until then, heal thyself.

  11. American Socialist   2 months ago

    Hey, a few days ago some Trumpisn dipshit was telling me about how Congress could credibly be a brake on Trump’s abuse of power. (“Yeah, right!”) I wonder where that retard is now? LOL.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      Quit sockpuppeting Buttplug, you fucking retard, and what Trump did was legal under the war powers act.

      Whether the WPA is legal is something that the Supreme Court really needs to look at.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Am Soc is a psychopathic liar; he is too stupid to recognize the fact, but everybody knows it. You might just as well attempt to reason with or correct a random handful of mud as engage Am Soc.
      Do not engage Am Soc; simply reply with insults; Am Soc deserves nothing other.

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        He should be euthanized.

  12. Z Crazy   2 months ago

    Its safer to be a 14-yea-rold girl walking alone in the ghetto at 1 am, wearing nothing but a miniskirt, tank top and gold jewelry, than to be a nuclear technician working for the iranian government.

    1. JFree   2 months ago

      You need to refine that prompt in order to generate a better image.

    2. Don't look at me! ( #1 on the “mute” list again!)   2 months ago

      As it should be.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      How about a chemical engineer working on zyklon for the Nazi government in 1938?

      1. Jim Conley   2 months ago

        Zyklon-B is bug spray, cracka

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Eat a bullet.

    4. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

      In a better world, yes.

  13. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

    I said this yesterday, but because Boehm has copypasted Petti's article, I'll say it again:

    Obama engaged in military action in Libya for six months without obtaining Congressional approval—clearly a violation of the War Powers Act.
    In contrast, Trump’s action more closely resembles Reagan’s 1986 bombing of Libya, which was not considered a violation of the Act.

    Not that it ultimately matters much, since in my non-constitutional scholar opinion, the War Powers Act is unconstitutional anyway. The supreme court really needs to take a look at it.

    TLDR, Trump played by the rules but I think rules are wrong.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      Better:
      TLDR, Other presidents violated the laws and thus it is OK for Trump to.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Best:
        I hate Trump so anything he does is illegal.

        Right, Molly?

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          That’s the entire complexity of every argument Tony makes.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Also half of the US judiciary.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        That's not what I said, Tony, you dishonest sockpuppeting fuck.

        Trump followed the War Powers Act to the tee. Your Obama/Biden administration didn't in Libya, but Trump did. Trump did not break the law.

        Whether the War Powers Act itself is a constitutional violation is something that the Supreme Court needs to look at soon.

      3. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Being dishonest doesn’t help your argument.

      4. I Callahan   2 months ago

        Yes. Why do you hold Trump to a higher standard than other presidents?

    2. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   2 months ago

      Yes. I can accept if someone says that this was not a good idea or that this goes against one's convictions for some reason. I don't agree with them, I think this was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to neuter a dangerous enemy, so as long as this ends here (i.e. destroying all nuclear facilities in Iran) then this was a fantastic move from President Trump. If the regime there got toppled, and the Iranian people can enjoy freedom once again then it's all the better. I wish them good luck, but that's not our responsibility, clearly...

      However, the strike itself was clearly NOT unlawful, nor was it unconstitutional.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'The Attack on Iran Is Unlawful'

    Also un-AWFL.

  15. Terry Anne Lieber (Don't Feed Tony)   2 months ago

    No, it was not unlawful. No, it was not unconstitutional. Ordering a precision strike with such limited scope is well within the powers of the President.

    Now was it a good idea? Yes. Iran is one of our biggest opponents today, they regularly chant Death to America, and they were also gunning for Israel, our ally (one can argue, our one and only useful ally, compared to the European slobs and other ME shitheads). Iran and its proxies had attacked American bases, soldiers and civilians countless times (I can't don't even know the total, but it's 46 years of Iranian aggression against our people, from hostage taking in 79' to killing American citizens on 10/7 back in 2023, so it must be hundreds of victims by now.) They were also bent on creating nuclear weapons, and they were closer to that than ever before. That alone was sufficient reason to act against their nuclear facilities.

    Apart from all that, it was clearly the best time to do just that. Israel defeated all Iranian proxies in the past 20 months including Syria, which ended IRGC interference in the Levant, and gave Israel a corridor to pull of the attack. And Israel was tremendously successful in their attack against Iran's air defenses, ballistic missiles, and nuclear scientists, as these were of utmost importance. But Israel also targeted the IRGC as a whole, all military targets within Iran apart from the Artesh (I imagine the plan is to weaken the IRGC to a point where Artesh, the regular army of Iran can topple the Islamist regime). So after 46 long years we finally had the opportunity to punch one our most ardent enemy where it hurts them the most. There's almost zero chance that they can significantly hurt us back, and they are in no position to escalate. So we had everything to gain, and nothing to lose from this transaction.

    1. MollyGodiva   2 months ago

      "Ordering a precision strike with such limited scope is well within the powers of the President."

      There is zero textual basis for that and much against that. Try getting Trump's dick out of your mouth and try again.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        Geez, Tony. What happened to your “government actors mean well, we should trust them” schtick?

      2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Tony, we all know you fantasize about Trump’s dick in your mouth. So why don’t you go back to pounding your own ass with a dildo and let the adults talk?

      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Literally the first post in thread dr retard. Including an actual court case.

      4. I Callahan   2 months ago

        Try thinking instead of emoting every time you see something you disagree with. Trump's dick has nothing to do with this.

    2. JFree   2 months ago

      Such a long comment that is nothing but copypasta from American media. How much time do you spend watching TV?

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Such a short piece to prove what a pile of shit you are.

      2. I Callahan   2 months ago

        The copypasta has the distinction of being correct.

  16. SRG2   2 months ago

    Reasons it was constitutional:

    1. The Democrats did it first
    2. Dear Leader willed it so.

    Iran presented a genuine threat towards Israel, and as a Zionist I am quite content for Israel to bomb their nuclear facilities. Further, Iran and Israel have been indirectly at war for years, though Iran's proxies.

    But Iran presented no threat to the US. Of course the same cultists who praised Trump for not getting involved in foreign entanglements are happy enough to cheer for him when he does. Fealty over principle, always.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      "Reasons it was constitutional:
      1. The Democrats did it first
      2. Dear Leader willed it so.
      Of course the same cultists who praised Trump for not getting involved in foreign entanglements are happy enough to cheer for him when he does."

      Point out who did that here, Mike.

      1. BYODB   2 months ago

        SRG2 is broken, there is a reason they are on mute.

        1. SRG2   2 months ago

          Not actually addressing the point, of course. I wish the mute function was reciprocal, it must be said.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Your point was addressed by someone who wasn't a fucking dem retard in the first post.

            On your side you have leftist retards and AOC. On the other side you have reality.

      2. SRG2   2 months ago

        Point out who did that here, Mike.

        Most of the cultists, at various times. As you well know.

        The name's Stephen, not Mike, btw.

        1. Don't look at me! ( #1 on the “mute” list again!)   2 months ago

          Ok, Mike.

        2. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Name them then.

      3. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Don’t you get it, we’re all cultist who march in lockstep with Trump.

        It doesn’t matter if nearly everyone has pointed out they disagree with the action, even though it was obviously lawful and constitutional. Just like it doesn’t matter that we disagreed with Obama doing it in Libya but begrudgingly acknowledged that it was lawful and constitutional (at least the first strike).

        1. SRG2   2 months ago

          It doesn’t matter if nearly everyone has pointed out they disagree with the action

          They haven't.

          1. DesigNate   2 months ago

            I can link to the comments, if that would help.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      The TDS-addled shits never change, do they, TDS-addled shit?

    3. Riva   2 months ago

      We don’t have “Dear Leaders” here. We have a duly elected president. And the president has authority as commander in chief under Art. II of the Constitution to deploy the military to address national security emergencies. The discreet use of military force against Iran is not a declared war and consistent with past actions by presidents of both parties.

      1. SRG2   2 months ago

        He is a duly elected president who his cultist followers regard as Dear Leader.

        And the president has authority as commander in chief under Art. II of the Constitution to deploy the military to address national security emergencies.

        Within limits, nor was there a national security emergency warranting the attack on Iran

        1. XM   2 months ago

          They bombed our military base as recently as last year.

          How do you define national emergency? If Iran invaded Mongolia or South Korea tomorrow, is that considered as not a national emergency since we're not directly affected? We can't bomb Iranian assets without declaring outright war?

          It defies logic to posit that the only time we can take ANY preemptive attack is when we're attacked directly. Clinton was right to blow up Iraqi weapon factories when Saddam denied UN inspectors. It shouldn't matter that they're not threatening us directly.

          Again, is it a good idea for a country like Iran to have nuclear weapons? Iran isn't like Russia or North Korea. If enough antisemites control both chambers, the president cannot do one thing even if its the right thing to do. But he can bomb away if MAGA can overrule them.

          We don't let majorities dictate policies simply on numbers. The WPA is illegal to begin with, it should be repealed. In the meantime, if the court didn't rule that airstrikes violate WPA when clinton or Obama did it, then Trump can reasonably take that as precedent.

        2. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

          Funny, your post. Coming from a (D)estructive (N)arcist (C)onformist. Great projection, you are a true DNC schill. Were you sad having to call Biden, Dear Leader?

          Let's Go Brandon!!

        3. I Callahan   2 months ago

          The discreet use of military force against Iran is not a declared war and consistent with past actions by presidents of both parties.

          Then:

          He is a duly elected president who his cultist followers regard as Dear Leader. Within limits, nor was there a national security emergency warranting the attack on Iran.

          Why can't you just address the point? If the president believes there WAS a national security emergency warranting the attack on Iran, then that's the final word. Get it?

    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      It is so amusing the leftist retards are even adopting sarcs bullshit thinking it makes them look intelligent. How far you've fallen shrike.

    5. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      Iran absolutely presents a threat to the US. So your premise is false.

      Update your commentary to reflect this correction.

      1. SRG2   2 months ago

        Iran absolutely presents a threat to the US. So your premise is false.

        Riiiiiiight. Like Saddam was a threat to the US.

        1. Neutral not Neutered   2 months ago

          Saddam tried to assassinate Bush Sr.

        2. I Callahan   2 months ago

          Saddam was. Then he wasn't, and provably so. Your point?

  17. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    Where do Iranians go when the bombs fall?
    Everywhere

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Not me, I ran.

      1. I Callahan   2 months ago

        So far away...

        1. MSmith   2 months ago

          Great. Now that song will be stuck in my head today (could be worse I guess).

    2. AT   2 months ago

      Who cares.

  18. No One Of Consequence   2 months ago

    Perhaps Trump thinks an Iranian missile damaging the U.S. embassy in Tel Aviv counts as "a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces."

    1. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

      It may not be an emergency, but it is legit grounds to blow some stuff up.

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Is that what retards think all Iran has done?

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        In his defense, democrats are stupid, credulous, drones filled with bullshit by MSNBC.

  19. Gregdn   2 months ago

    The so called "American led international world order' only means that the U.S. and its friends can do basically whatever the fuck they want to do, while criticizing countries like Russia for doing the same.

    1. Don't look at me! ( #1 on the “mute” list again!)   2 months ago

      Better than “soft power”?

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        That’s how a Sarc explains away whiskey dick.

    2. BYODB   2 months ago

      It takes a special brand of fool to compare the Ukraine and Russia to the United States and Iran.

      How much terrorism did Ukraine fund against Russia and it's allies, and how many nuclear weapons was Ukraine working on? Hell, Ukraine actually did have Soviet nuclear weapons at one point, what do you think happened to those? I sure bet they regret that deal.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Ukraine spent years murdering civilians in Donbas. That's what started the war.

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          Just looked up civilian casualties in Donbas leading up to the official war, and guess what happened to those numbers after Russia invaded.

    3. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

      In a better world, yes.

    4. I Callahan   2 months ago

      Better us than someone else. Because those ARE the two choices you have.

  20. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

    Here's a thought.

    Maybe, Reagan acted illegally and unconstitutionally when he bombed Libya in 1986.
    Maybe, Obama acted illegally and unconstitutionally when he bombed Libya in 2011.
    Maybe, Trump acted illegally and unconstitutionally when he bombed Iran in 2025. (And, also, Syria in 2017.)

    Maybe ALL of the above (and more) impermissibly stretched the definition of "national emergency" in the WPA in order to justify stroking their war boners to do whatever it is they wanted to do.

    Maybe the whole point of being anti-war from a libertarian perspective is so that national governments start to respect the rights of all humanity, and not just to protect their own citizens *at the expense of* everyone else.

    Maybe the concepts of "national sovereignty" and "borders" actually mean something, and the same people who insist on strict enforcement of America's borders should not be so quick to justify violations of national sovereignty when it occurs in other contexts.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Don't be silly. No one in the comments cares about principles or the Constitution. They only care about Democrats bad Trump good, hurr durr.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        How is following a congressional law and upheld by the courts unconstitutional?

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          He only knows what MSNBC tells him.

    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      And maybe you equated enacting Marxism to deporting illegal aliens a few days ago Lying Jeffy.

      Oh wait, not maybe, you definitely did that.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      Libya blew up a plane with 190 Americans on board you stupid fvcknuts

    4. I Callahan   2 months ago

      Or - maybe none of them did.

  21. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

    It is cute that a bunch of Sarc Bots and JFreetards on here think Congress would ever do anything constructive with regard to the existential threat that is Iran in it's current form.

    Congress literally ceded this power to the Executive Branch so they wouldn't need to actually make tough calls. Tough calls lose elections, and those clowns couldn't have that.

    1. JasonT20   2 months ago

      Congress literally ceded this power to the Executive Branch so they wouldn't need to actually make tough calls. Tough calls lose elections, and those clowns couldn't have that.

      Members of Congress wouldn't be such wimps if there weren't so many voters that prefer to be ruled by a President over having Congress and the President checking each other's powers. Too many voters only want Congress to assert its constitutional authority over the executive when it is the other party in the White House. For those voters, when the President is their guy, they want a Congress that will rubber stamp their guy's agenda and actions.

      [edit] P.S. We get the government we vote for.

      1. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

        Correct.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        One which murders the unarmed to the applause of this pile of shit:
        JasonT20
        February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
        “How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”

        Fuck off and die, asshole.

    2. JFree   2 months ago

      Funny how commenters like you can't comprehend how Congress could get involved in issues of war and peace. At the exact moment that Iran has their legislature vote to approve the closure of the Straits of Hormuz, a likely issue of war and peace.

      Your ilk has the wits of nits.

      1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        Congress wasn’t needed for this, and let’s be honest. You know that your fellow Islamist and Jew hater Ilhan Omar would probably leak the information to the Iranians.

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          If your model of good governance is Ted Kennedy, perhaps you're doing it wrong.

          I am, of course, referring to his letter to the Soviets during the height of the cold war.

          1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

            Thank you for referencing that. A great historical example of why democrats cannot be trusted.

          2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            More Americans died in Ted Kennedy's car than died in the cold war. But he was the Lion.

    3. BYODB   2 months ago

      In a direct conflict with the U.S. military, Iran would blow over like a house of cards so it's hard to really call them an existential threat to the United States in particular.

      To allies of ours in the region, yeah, that's pretty accurate. Especially Israel, since Iran has repeatedly stated they want to wipe them off the face of the Earth. Nuclear weapons are a pretty direct way to wipe something off the face of the Earth.

      If anyone recalls, Israel almost certainly has nuclear weapons but somehow managed not to glass Iran. I'm not so sure Iran would be as kind.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Medvedev tweeted today that there are numerous countries that would be willing to supply Iran with nuclear warheads off the shelf. No enrichment required. The paste has been out of the tube for well over half a century. He's suggesting that both Iran and Israel agree to not have nuclear warheads. You can certainly disagree but at least it's a logical argument.

        1. BYODB   2 months ago

          You're talking about a tennis player, right? That's some source.

          /joke

        2. BYODB   2 months ago

          More seriously, if Russia wants to give nuclear weapons to Iran they would have already done it.

          Russia also said they would deploy nuclear weapons against Ukraine, how did that pan out?

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            Just pointing out that we're way past the Manhattan project. And managing the good guys and the bad guys might be a fools errand. I'm no fan of Iran but mostly because I've reached the conclusion that Islam is the greatest threat to civilization and liberty at this point in history. But the weaponry may be a paper tiger as a wise but evil man once pointed out.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              You know what's a bigger threat to your liberty than Islam?

              Tyrants and dictators who usurp power in the name of "protecting you".

              1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

                Yeah, let's talk about the guy who ran a literally Hollywood-produced Kangaroo court, and banned millions of people on social media from talking about disease origins, experimental therapy safety and the legitimacy of his election. The guy who held a red speech where he identified half the electorate as traitors. The guy who had his FBI illegally spy on PTA parents, Catholics and journalists for voicing opposing narratives. The guy who fired tens of thousands of military men for refusing to take experimental injections. The guy who illegally spied on his political opponent, and tried to have him removed from the ballots, and when that failed he tried to bankrupt him, and when that failed he tried to imprison him, and when that failed he tried to kill him.

              2. I Callahan   2 months ago

                No, they're not a bigger threat to my liberty than Islam. And you're delusional of you think otherwise.

  22. JasonT20   2 months ago

    But there are unlikely to be any direct political consequences for Trump as long as House Speaker Mike Johnson (R–La.) is willing to look the other way. In a statement released on Saturday night, Johnson said the strikes were "necessary, limited, and targeted."

    This is really the only thing that needs to be said here. The Constitution placing the power to declare war in the hands of Congress alone, and the War Powers Act seeking to define these issues over the President's authority to order the use of military force with more specificity only matter to the extent that members of Congress will act to uphold them. This is obviously an entirely political question that the Supreme Court would not get involved in, nor should it.

    Simply put, the President can order the military to bomb other countries without the approval of Congress if no one, particularly Congress, and most importantly, the voters, will punish him politically when he does.

    1. Bipedal Humanoid   2 months ago

      This is the correct view on this matter, not partisan bickering.

    2. Incunabulum   2 months ago

      That there will be no 'consequences' is the same as saying that Congress is going to let the President do whatever he wants. Thus none of it is illegal.

      Boehm and company are getting hung up over the procedural aspects of something that doesn't actually have a procedure. The formula is magic to them - similar in this way to Sovereign Citizens.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

        "Congress will let him get away with it" is not the same as "It's not illegal".

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          It isn't illegal, Lying Jeffy. The WPA gives him the legal ability.

          Is the WPA unconstitutional? I think so, but until the Supremes get their asses in gear and rule on it, no president observing it is breaking the law.

          Now when your lightbringer bombed Libya he did ignore the WPA and thus broke the law, but I suppose you think that was (D)ifferent.

  23. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    King Trump can do whatever he wants because fuck you that's why.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Still on the no kings screams huh rachel? Thought you were a Democrat.

    2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      Better flee to Canada right away, lay low. In fact, it might be best of you gave up posting here. Or else Trump will get you.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        He won't flee to Canada because of high alcohol taxes and he knows people up here hate him too.

  24. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Seriously though, this is another case of people objecting to the how and being accused of objecting to the what. The "how" is starting a new war because fuck you who's going to do anything about it. The "what" is stopping Iran's nuclear ambitions.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      This is another case of you thinking you have an intelligent bumper sticker that everyone else thinks is retarded. Also another case of you projecting.

  25. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    >"Even if that is true, it would just underline the importance of getting approval from Congress.

    Seems to me like Speaker Johnson just gave retroactive consent - ie, Trump has congressional approval now.

    1. SRG2   2 months ago

      Seems to me like Speaker Johnson just gave retroactive consent -

      Was there a vote? The Speaker, by himself, cannot give consent.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Yes. When the WPA was passed. Congress can actually revoked the WPA with another vote.

      2. Incunabulum   2 months ago

        Is there a *legal* requirement for a vote?

  26. IceTrey   2 months ago

    The only punishment he faces is impeachment and he won't be convicted because the Senate is evenly split so the point is moot.

  27. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

    This regime has attacked us repeatedly for 46 years, seizing our embassy and taking hostages, and killing hundreds if not thousands of servicemen thru proxies.
    In recent weeks, they have funded the Houthi attacks on our navy (Obama/biden made sure they funded it )

  28. XM   2 months ago

    The comedy here is watching libertarians who now exist for illegal immigration, to the point of cheerleading a judge who obstruct justice to free illegal criminals, suddenly have a conniption fit over Trump "breaking the law".

    Also, the same mendacious clowns who now frame this issue as "So because other presidents did it now you want to excuse Trump". Morally sentient human beings are capable of discerning hypocrisy and selective morality. If cops routinely ignore white people jaywalking but arrest black people and charge them with the harshest possible punishment, you're not making excuses for jaywalking by noting the disparity.

    What is the point of having a president? Why not just have the judicial branch and congress run the country? Iran attacked a us base as recently as last year. They fund proxy wars against us and our allies. We can't surgically strike methods of operation against a hostile enemy of state unless congress approves of it? What if whatever party that holds power in both chambers just automatically opposes anything the other party does? But they approve of wars that they like - i.e. Ukraine?

    Impeaching a president should involve treasonous offense. A president that eliminated a nuclear program of a known terrorist state that helped launch warfare on Israel is NOT impeachable conduct, even if it exceeds WPA. Trump could claim that Iran attacking our bases is a "national emergency" and the courts may reject it, but that is not impeachable conduct.

    You want Trump to be impeached over this, but not for Joe Biden purposely doing nothing on the border, or the criminal conspiracy that left him in power despite being braindead. Obama bombed countries with the full intent to support an uprising. He droned an American citizen without trial. If the impeachment standard is now that any president that exceeds his authority must be removed by political process, we now have mob rule, not a representative government.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      What if whatever party that holds power in both chambers just automatically opposes anything the other party does?

      That's not a "what if". That's how it is. For anyone who isn't a partisan caveman.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        "That's how it is. For anyone who isn't a partisan caveman"

        Not only are you a partisan caveman, Sarckles — you're their shaman. Your main contribution here is harassing and trolling anyone who says anything remotely positive about Trump. It's astonishing that you think you can handwave your entire posting history just to suit the new narrative you're now trying to push.

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      Morally sentient human beings are capable of discerning hypocrisy and selective morality. If cops routinely ignore white people jaywalking but arrest black people and charge them with the harshest possible punishment, you're not making excuses for jaywalking by noting the disparity.

      Noting the discrepancy, while not engaging in selective morality, would be:
      "Jaywalking is wrong no matter who does it".

      Selective morality, that is disguised as "noting the discrepancy", is:
      "While jaywalking is not great, if they are allowed to jaywalk then so should I."

      1. XM   2 months ago

        "Selective morality, that is disguised as "noting the discrepancy", is:
        "While jaywalking is not great, if they are allowed to jaywalk then so should I." "

        Chemjeff sez if cops only arrest black people for jaywalking but not whites, the black people should grin like retards and say "I'll just live with this because jaywalking is illegal".

        If something is wrong, then you hold any side accountable. If the the people who are calling for impeachment for Trump defended for Obama for doing EXACTLY what he did, then we're allowed to notice the discrepancy.

        This is a phenomenon called "discrimination." Double standards. Chemjeff should have a working knowledge of the concept, because he alleges it constantly on republicans. Some republicans

        What is wrong with this guy? If everyone in his office took 5 more minutes of break time than allowed, and the office only busted HIM to make an example, he wouldn't sue the company?

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

      We can't surgically strike methods of operation against a hostile enemy of state unless congress approves of it?

      Now you're starting to get it.

      If Iran is such an immediate and obvious threat, then it should be an easy decision for Congress to declare war, or at least authorize the use of military force.

      But if not, and *in the absence of an actual invasion*, then the president doesn't get to play war games on his own.

      "But but but the Democrats will just oppose everything that Trump does because they hate him!"

      Guess what, that was the exact same type of argument that Obama made to justify things like DACA, and also HIS military adventurism in Libya. What did that get us?

      If you think the president should be entitled to go around Congress because of an "obstructionist faction" then you're actually arguing in favor of dictatorship. If that's what you want then just say so.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        Look, I'll be the first to admit that I don't relish the idea of dictatorship or ignoring the separation of powers or creating a cult of personality around the elected leader of the Executive Branch.

        I just want all the Iranians buried under rubble (well, all of Islam really - but I get it, baby steps), and I want every single man woman and child that is illegally in America punted out of here or locked away in some kind of prison for however long it takes to resolve the immigration hearing backlogs.

        Is that really so much to ask? Seriously, is that really too much to ask?

        Because it's not an unreasonable request, and yet it's intentionally frustrated every step of the way. Both of these things are very simply accomplished, and yet it's like a hamster in a wheel running its legs off and getting nowhere. I'm not going to lie Jeff - I kinda don't care how it gets done anymore, I just want it done.

        And so do most other Americans.

        We tried a battery of humane traps to catch the rats. Heck, we even experimented with peacefully co-existing with them. But the rats keep eating our cheese, carving holes in our baseboards, pooping in our shoes, and they gave the dog rabies - so, enough. It's extermination time.

        Don't care how it gets done anymore, just get rid of the rats. Your way didn't work. Heck, it's like you intentionally SABOTAGED it to KEEP it from working. So, now we move to something more decisive. If unilateral aerial bombardment gets it done, then good.

        We're sick of the rats, Jeff.

        (And we're sick of their dirtbag apologists too. Just. Saying.)

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

          Well, let me see. Is it too much to ask to genocide an entire religion? Yeah, yeah I do think that is too much to ask. Ever since about 1945 or so.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

            "Is it too much to ask to genocide an entire religion? Yeah, yeah I do think that is too much to ask."

            You never felt that way about Christianity, Jeffy. What makes Islam better?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 months ago

              Weird how I've never once advocated for the genocide of any religion, Christianity or Islam or Judaism or otherwise, and yet you are lying about what I believe and saying absolutely nothing about the guy who actually is in favor of genociding a religion. Maybe that's because you are the one who sides with AT and wants to genocide Islam.

          2. AT   2 months ago

            So let me get this straight. You're against genocide of the Jews, but you're defending a nation that *checks notes* very vocally wants genocide of the Jews. And Americans. In the name of their backwards 7th century oppressive religion that should not exist, let alone be tolerated, in 2025.

            Have you checked your ears for blood? That level of cognitive dissonance, I mean... man.

            Glad you're at least on board with punting/imprisoning the illegals though. Thanks for that at least.

      2. XM   2 months ago

        "If Iran is such an immediate and obvious threat, then it should be an easy decision for Congress to declare war, or at least authorize the use of military force."

        LOL, you think congress will do the right thing if something is "easy". Medicare is running out of money, but do you think anyone will vote to cut it? Disingenuous little hack.

        Let's say congress votes on every future military involvement in Ukraine. We're giving them intel and training, so we're involved. The republicans in congress vote against every measure. If Russia actually came with 5 miles of Kyiv, republicans still block military action. No airstrike, intel sharing, etc. I say, goodie, well done. But YOUR side would have a problem with that, now wouldn't you. Because you want involvement, and may sincerely believe Russia should not get away with invading another country. Partisanship plays at least a factor in the president being paralyzed onto not being able to aid an invaded nation.

        The president is the commander in chief of the armed forces. Congress has the power to declare war and control funding. If the president can't even order the military to airstrike infrastructure without congress, our ability to respond and adapt to threats would be compromised. Because as we've seen so plainly, approval or disapproval of war depends on partisan loyalty. The left supports Ukraine but opposed helping Israel. The flip side for the right. Many argue WPA is unconstitutional for this reason. You don't give congress all the power in the name of stopping the president. Either can be more corrupt than the other.

        You're essentially saying that any time we bomb some terrorists in cave, we have to declare war on the nation to do so. It's fucking insane. Once you declare war, boots on ground becomes a reality. The other side can't pretend to be outraged and let it go. If Iran bombed on of our ships tomorrow, we might strike Houthis and their asset. Congress has to declare war on Yemen before they can do that?

        Your concern trolling over "dictatorship" is cute, since I've never seen your moral outrage over Obama or Biden bypassing congress in matters of war, immigration, and the economy. Lying to prop up a braindead president is borderline treason and a watergate level conspiracy. Not a peep from you.

    4. I Callahan   2 months ago

      What if whatever party that holds power in both chambers just automatically opposes anything the other party does?

      Which, if the Dems ever get control of both houses while Trump is in office, is exactly what we'll have.

  29. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    Impeach Trump

    1. Don't look at me! ( #1 on the “mute” list again!)   2 months ago

      Pffft.

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   2 months ago

        That's a better argument than he made.

  30. AT   2 months ago

    Sorry, but that simply isn't good enough.

    Nah, everyone's fine with it. It's just you complaining. Again.

    Stop being such a pussy, Eric.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Not everyone swoons when the government kills people. You're somewhat rare in that regard. Thankfully.

      1. AT   2 months ago

        Stop being such a pussy, Eric.

      2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

        I’m sure you’re in mourning for all those Iranian generals. You democrats are always crushed when any of them does.

        Now who will torture the Iranian people?

  31. JohnZ   2 months ago

    Trump is simply following orders from Satanyahu. What ever he's told to do by the Synagogue of Satan, he will follow those orders....or else.
    Nothing good is going to come of this war and the only ones who will profit by it is the MIC.
    Of course there are those who willingly mimic back what they're told by the MSM, / Zionist news propaganda outlet.
    No one in their right mind should believe ANYTHING or any statements that is reported out of the Synagogue of Satan. (Israel)
    Trump has made a very grave mistake and already we are seeing the results in higher gas prices at the pump.
    Will all those who support Trump's illegal ans immoral bombing of Iran continue to cheer when they are paying $5/gal or more ?
    Dr. Paul Craig Roberts nailed it when he said, "Americans are the most dumbed down, ignorant and misinformed people on the planet."
    Washington needs to boot out the Trotskyite neo-cons and put an end to these disastrous foreign policy blunders.
    Ron Paul is right.

    1. AT   2 months ago

      I assume you've spent the last 12 hours since our last conversation getting your visa to Iran squared away?

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        Pretty sure it's Misek, unless they've been reading the same pamphlets

        1. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

          Anything related to Israel really brings the Jew haters out of the woodwork.

          1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

            This account is new, though. So at least it cost him money to be like this.

          2. DesigNate   2 months ago

            Yeah, I had to step away from the libertarianmeme reddit because it was becoming like 90% Jew hate/conspiracy theories.

        2. Stuck in California   2 months ago

          Definitely seems like a fifty center to me.

          He started out last week doing copy pasta around the LA riots then escalated to racism and then hard antisemitism. Textbook trying to make conservatives look bad by pretending to be one of them trolling. Except he's pretty "Hello fellow kids" bad at it.

        3. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

          Trump titty fucked Iran, nasty style!! No homo, bro!

    2. Marylandman, Battling for Truth Justice, and the American Way   2 months ago

      So how do you come by your hatred of Jewish people?

  32. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    What's really funny is the only Non - (D)ifferent solution comes from Republican Thomas Massie.

    While the left just carries on with their Trump (D)ifferent party-partisan lackey Syndrome.

    Course the Leftards will be along shortly to Self-Project their own party-partisan prejudices at everyone else ... because that's what leftards do. They are the party of [WE] Identify-as RULES/STEALS. 100% Gangster Mentality. From Gender Identify-as, to Skin-Color Identify-as, to Wealth-Status Identify-as, etc, etc, etc ... [WE] Gangster RULES mentality through and through.

  33. Incunabulum   2 months ago

    What is the difference between unlawful and illegal?

    1. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

      None, unless you're a fundamentalist kook.

    2. Bruce Hayden   2 months ago

      See below.

  34. edbeau99   2 months ago

    ROFL!!!

    This is beyond what I would expect to see on MSNBC. For why this is a totally nonsensical article, look no further than Professor Jonathan Turley's column below. He actually took the Obama administration to court over the way it carried out military operations in Libya over several months, in direct contravention of a Congressional resolution. At every level in the legal system, the opponents of undeclared and unsanctioned military action in a foreign country lost decisively.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/jonathan-turley-dems-suddenly-outraged-over-presidential-war-powers

  35. Public Entelectual   2 months ago

    Was all that Greenland blather just cover for POTUS cunning plan to outflank Starmer by having B-2's circle over Mauritius until they hand over the keys to Diego Garcia?

  36. Bruce Hayden   2 months ago

    § 1541 is titled “Purpose and Policy”. It’s an assertion that Congress has the power to intrude into the President’s Article II Commander-in-chief power. Presidents, since Nixon (over whose veto the WPA was enacted), have routinely utilized military force around the world, as they felt necessary. Dozens of times under Obama alone. Our forays into Iran and Afghanistan were arguably covered by a AUF enacted, I believe, during Desert Shield, or possibly in the aftermath of 9/11. Every other use of military force by the US was justified under the President’s plenary power as Commander in Chief of the military. Most were a quick in-and-out like Trump’s attack on Iran this last weekend. The big exception being the Obama/Clinton attack in Libya to effectuate Regime Change there, which lasted more than the 60 days, and thus required approval by Congress - which was never given. That is arguably the only time, during the 50+ years that the WPA has been in force, that it has been violated - when Obama/Clinton overstayed the statutory 60 day limit without acquiring Congressional approval.

    Yet, there was little that Congress could do about it. More to the point, the only real power that they could have here is to order the President to remove our service members from combat. But for all of the in-and-out attacks, by our military, upon order of the President (at the time), there is no remedy provided by the WPA. No injunctive relief is provided (the planes all came back safely), no one has standing to sue (except maybe Congress, when the conflict exceeds 60 days), and no damages. Thus, No Case or Controversy, so no judicial relief is possible. And, thus no way to rebut the President’s assertion of his Article II CinC power. So, what we are left with is a lot of bloviating and hot air that Trump violated the WPA, and no way to get into court to prove it.

    As for Whataboutism - it stands as precedent that the President does, indeed, have the power, under Article II, to do exactly what Trump did here, and has been done routinely by every President since enactment of the WPA over a half century ago, with little, if any, pushback by Congress.

  37. CharlieG   2 months ago

    Since we all know now that Iran has been sending sleeper cells into the US for some time, waiting for the time they are activated, wouldn't that be a "crisis threatening American soil?" The POTUS has much more intel than we will ever have, leaks included, so doesn't it stand to reason the POTUS might have been aware of the sleeper cells that are a crisis that threatens American soil?

  38. Marc St. Stephen   2 months ago

    .... and there's a cease fire - Trump 1, Reason 0

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