California Immigration Raids Are Hurting American Citizens Too
Cary López Alvarado, a U.S. citizen who is nine months pregnant, was detained after blocking immigration agents from entering what she believed to be private property.

The Trump administration's aggressive immigration enforcement policies are taking a toll on more than just the undocumented aliens they are targeting.
On Sunday, Cary López Alvarado, an American citizen born in Los Angeles who is nine months pregnant, was hospitalized after being released from federal custody one week before her due date. López Alvarado said she started experiencing sharp pains in her abdomen after she lost her balance when agents "shoved her" while attempting to arrest her undocumented coworkers. "I crouched down and held my belly, because I was scared they would hurt me," she told Telemundo 52, NBC's sister station in Los Angeles.
López Alvarado was detained after attempting to block two masked Border Patrol agents from entering her place of work without a warrant. While performing maintenance work in a building in Hawthorne, California, on Sunday, she and her cousin—also an American citizen—opened the parking gate to allow López Alvarado's partner, Brian Najera, and another co-worker to enter. Najera and the co-worker—who are both undocumented—had been followed in a marked U.S. Customs and Border Protection vehicle. López Alvarado blocked the agents from entering the gated parking lot and captured her interactions with them on video while telling the agents: "I'm going to need you guys to leave. This is private property."
Agents said the parking wasn't private property and asked López Alvarado to either show documentation that she owned the property or move out of the way. When she refused to move, the agents forced her out of the way, causing her to lose her balance. She, along with her husband, co-worker, and cousin, were subsequently arrested, during which time López Alvarado told agents her due date was June 17. "'OK, your baby is going to be born here, but you're from Mexico, right?' And I told them no," she said on NBC News. "I was born here."
López Alvarado was released later that day and told by agents they would contact her at a later date about obstruction allegations.
In an email sent to NBC News, Tricia McLaughlin, assistant secretary for public affairs at the Department of Homeland Security, said, "Cary Lopez was arrested because she obstructed federal law enforcement by blocking access to a car that had two Guatemalan illegal aliens in it." She also noted that "ICE enforcement officers are facing a 413% increase in assaults," which McLaughlin says is "disgraceful."
This incident illustrates how quickly interactions with federal agents can become complicated. The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches and seizures where there is a "reasonable expectation of privacy." Whether a parking lot is considered private, and therefore requires either a valid warrant or permission for authorities to enter, depends on multiple factors. Although López Alvarado believed she was within her rights to deny federal immigration authorities entrance to a gated parking lot on private property without a judicial warrant, agents believed differently.
Trump's onslaught of immigration enforcement has raised many questions regarding due process for undocumented people living in the United States. Now, the same questions are being raised for American citizens.
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Stunning and brave.
>>a U.S. citizen who is nine months pregnant, was detained after blocking immigration agents from entering what she believed to be private property.
you understand personal choice and consequence, yes?
Now do Ashli Babbitt.
You’re boring as fuck.
Yawn.
Sarc on babbitt. When not mocking her death.
I back the blue when they’re right. In this case, as you very well know, the cop didn’t know she was unarmed and from his vantage point he couldn’t see the crowd. He just saw someone crawling through a smashed barricade while hearing chaos on the police radio. So based upon what he knew based upon what he could see and hear, he did what he thought was right.
>>Now do Ashli Babbitt.
a U.S. military citizen was shot in the face by a member of the same entity who opened the doors for everyone
She was crawling through a barricade you lying sack of shit. And why does it matter if she's a citizen or not? Oh yeah, I forgot. Non-citizens aren't people. They're animals. Trump defenders believe it should be legal to kill them for sport. This is why people who aren't Trump defenders think you're all garbage. You'd have cheered if the cops had kicked this pregnant woman in the stomach because she's Hispanic, but when a white girl who's part of a mob trying to stop the certification of a presidential election gets herself killed you go home and cry. Fuck you. You've got no principle, no morals, and no humanity. If anyone here is an animal who needs to be shot, it's you and your Trump defending ilk.
She wasn't crawling through a barricade you lying sack of shit. She was shot in a doorway while surrounded by other officers and protesters.
Her death has been shown on TV hundreds of times and yet you choose to lie about it.
Whose sock are you?
Here’s the footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGQxadQjoiw&rco=1
He doesnt read or watch videos from us. He prefers being retarded.
Crawling through a window is now a capital offenses. Even with the congress members evacuated an hour earlier?
Fucking fascist fuck. Bookmarked.
Amazing how you imagine your enemies doing what you are fucking doing. Who is demanding cops kick the woman in the stomach? Stop justifying your fascist liberal defenses.
such a retarded faggot, I have no idea why someone like you would ever read libertarian sites. bootlicking an agent of the state shooting and killing an unarmed person is absolutely disgusting behavior.
So does Saint George Floyd.
Yep, I believe it’s called “fuck around and find out”.
If she had just immediately and unquestionly submitted to the polite, reasonable, demands of the ever-professional ICE agents, then we wouldn't be here. it's her fault for questioning her rights. Just submit, citizen, and nothing undeserved will happen to you.
Why the fuck do you people want to live in a dictatorship?
Which retarded sock are you?
A gated parking lot is private property. She was entirely within her rights and, quite possibly, her job responsibilities (article doesn't say in what capacity she was employed). ICE needed a warrant to enter. That they used force because they were refused entry to private property is a clear constitutional violation.
Ignorant and retarded.
This argument by wish/ignorance is becoming repetitive.
A gated parking lot is private property.
No it's not. In Chicago, depending on the lot, the city owns the spaces and structure and [checks notes] Morgan Stanley owns the meters. Even at that, you hack open a meter and Chicago will charge you criminally if Morgan Stanley or other bothers to charge you civilly at all. If we're talking about a parking garage attached to, e.g., a mall or a residential high rise, spaces accessible to the public and/or the majority of residents (publicly accessible stairways, dumpsters, common hallways, elevators, etc.) have been ruled not to have an expectation of privacy for decades.
You can't deal drugs in the parking lot out in front of your local Waffle House and claim "I have a right to privacy." when someone comes to arrest you, much less claim it when they come to arrest someone else. And it's disgustingly, tragically, evilly dishonest to pretend you do.
At this point, I think the only way the whole thing could've gotten more retarded is if the building was owned by Trump.
Didn't you hear? ICE doesn't need a warrant to enter private property. The Constitution doesn't apply to them.
They had warrants. You've been shown the evidence multiple times. Yet you choose your usual lies.
They had warrants to arrest. That doesn't automatically mean they had warrants to go anywhere they wanted to effect those arrests.
More to the point, if they had warrants, they could have defused the situation by showing those warrants rather than simply bullying their way past someone plausibly claiming to be an authorized representative of the property owner.
I think you're mistaking Jesse for someone who argues in good faith.
You do manage to project rather well.
Facts are bad faith now?
They had warrants for every location they checked.
Did you have a fucking point?
Warrants dont matter to the activists you fucking dumbass. The warrants were shown. Activists were immediately called to the fashion district. Speaking from ignorance are you?
"...Speaking from ignorance are you?..."
Naah. Just one more TDS-addled slimy pile of shit.
They didn't present a warrant (we have video of the interaction), so i don't know if they had them or not, but a warrant only does something if they present them. No presentation of a warrant, no right to enter.
(I've also seen no coverage claiming they even had a warrant, but it's irrelevant. It's an irrefutable fact they didn't present one when they demanded entry).
So an American citizen who committed a crime was detained for committing a crime?
Are the articles getting more and more retarded??
The writers are definitely getting more retarded.
Getting?
It’s an amazing race to total idiocy here
Defending private property rights from armed intrusion ought not to be a crime.
'What she believed to be private property'.
Yeah, the torturing of "reasonable expectation of privacy" for illegal immigrants kinda makes it seem like everyone invoking it doesn't know what 'reasonable', 'expectation', and 'privacy' means.
You're on property owned and/or occupied by people you definitively do not know. Strangers, burglars, and trespassers don't get privacy in anyone's house. You don't just get to shout "Privacy!" at the cops and they just ignore any/all crime that they may be investigating, have witnessed, or even have warrants for.
They need a warrant for the place to be searched. It is private property, it doesn't matter if it's her private property, she had a right to be there. ICE should have contacted the property owners, or gotten a warrant naming the location and presented it. They did neither of those things.
The need for a warrant isn't based on privacy. It's a basic requirement of the constitution that the government may not conduct a search without a warrant.
They need a warrant for the place to be searched.
No they don't and you're both being dishonest *and* eroding the 4A and property law in disagreement.
If I stand actually on my property and shoot at my neighbor in front of the police officer I don't get to claim a reasonable expectation of privacy and avoid arrest. Otherwise, every burglar can climb into someone's home when they're not home and, if the police try and stop him, say "It's not your house! I have a right to privacy." Even moreso, an armed robber can walk into the corner bodega, shoot the owner, and say, "You can't arrest me without the consent of the owner. Privacy!"
Privacy as auspiciously invoked is in suspicion of a crime by the owner and against the search and seizure of property, not criminals themselves. Moreover, as the article poorly handwaves away, there is some mitigating case law about, e.g., a cabin out in the woods, pursuit onto protected lands, or running through a posted back yard, but things like parking garages, ground-level and free standing retail spaces, and commerce or business spaces open to the public don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy even by the owners occupants.
This is really, once again, getting blatantly dishonest with regard to, e.g., people being unable to (not) pray in their own heads outside an abortion clinic, bakery owners being able to refuse service to parts of the public they don't want to serve, and illegal immigrants having a reasonable expectation of privacy in places that even the owners and native employees don't have it.
You aren't helping anyone, even the immigrants you're arguing on behalf of and it's dishonest and stupid that you're doing it.
Aiding and abetting is a crime. This article is highlighting how she wilfully committed crimes.
It wasn't private property retard. She committed a crime.
What the fuck?
Even at that, the cops show up at your or my house looking for Rossami, we don't get to declare "Nah, sorry, he has a reasonable expectation of privacy." You or I have a reasonable expectation of privacy and can say/assert, "He's not here.", but the idea that illegal immigrants have a reasonable expectation of privacy on someone else's property as asserted by a third person is *completely* ass-backwards. Like "The local meteorologist says wet roads cause rain so I'm gonna need to see an umbrella before I let you go outside." levels of retardation.
Especially when they are in plain view.
Cops show up to my house and they see the guy they're after through the window I don't get to tell them to come back with a warrant.
Unless there are specific circumstances, they absolutely do need a warrant of some kind to enter your house.
Unless there are specific circumstances
The circumstances have, at this point, been clarified for you 3 times, retard. At this point you people are just being dishonest to the point of trying to get more people on both sides hurt.
As I point out below, it's like the specific opposite of the raid of Mar-A-Lago where Trump was guilty of possessing unknown information that he wasn't cleared to have but that random FBI agents were some how cleared to have and specifically to seize without knowing what the information was to begin with.
The logic is just so abjectly fucked up and terribly tortured that it's difficult to recognize the cognition (or lack thereof) underneath.
How wasn't it private property? It's a gated parking structure. Are you saying it's government owned?
Seriously, your stupidity is why people are getting hurt doing this. I'm pretty sure you don't care right along the lines of forcing people to bake cakes and celebrating religious scholars who harass students on "private" campuses, but I can't remain silent as your willful stupidity undermines the law and produces the predictable outcome of hurting people.
Fuck off and die, TDS-addled shit pile. If they have a warrant (which they seemed to have), they can enter private property.
You are a fucking imbecile, aren't you?
They never presented a warrant during the interaction, nor claimed to have one.
Mollie Tibbets
Rachel Morin
Laken Riley
Al of them white girls who were murdered because illegals wanted to rape their pussies!
Make no mistake.
simping for illegals is rooted in anti-white animus.
I know this because the same people who excuse illegal immigration because whites are not indigeous to North America ALSO support mass migration into Europe where whites ARE indigenous, instead of saying that white Europeans get to gun down invaders en masse.
They believe in this colonizer-colonizee dynamics. They feel that whites are responsible for all the evil in the world, so they support violent criminals immigrating in and committing crimes against whites, especially sex crimes against white girls.
They cheered the Colonge Sex Attacks.
Of course, if little black boys like AJ Wise are killed by illegals, they just consider it collateral damage!
White Girls Matter!
>Cary López Alvarado, a U.S. citizen who is nine months pregnant, was detained after blocking immigration agents from entering what she believed to be private property
In other words, it's not hurting Americans.
What is hurting Americans is unlawful interference with law enforcement.
>when agents "shoved her" while attempting to arrest her undocumented coworkers
What's important here is that she was exploiting a permanent underclass in order to make the lives of our 'elites' better.
The chick is committing a crime and physically tried to pushing enforcement around - but I guess 'birthing persons' are allowed to do whatever they want when preggos?
>This incident illustrates how quickly interactions with federal agents can become complicated
There is nothing complicated here. She chose to get physical with the agents, she fucked around and then found out.
Also, ICE doesn't need warrants. They're part of Customs and get the same warrant exemptions.
You don't have to think that is right - but that is the state of the law.
Reading Rossami's "That doesn't automatically mean they had warrants to go anywhere they wanted to effect those arrests." post above, the tumblers click into place. They don't understand the difference between an arrest warrant and a search warrant. You don't have a reasonable expectation of privacy against an arrest. ICE wasn't there looking for evidence of the garage owner employing illegal immigrants, they were there arresting people who broke the law.
I guess after the search of Mar-a-lago for evidence that may or may not be too classified for the President to handle but isn't so classified that random FBI agents can handle it without having any clue as to what it is, my relatively plain expectations of people having any clue about crimes and warrants and due process exceeds their grasp. I'm pretty sure my teens, having only taken High School level social studies, political science, and legal studies/criminal justice classes understand it but, apparently, public education is failing more and more people at an alarming rate.
Meh… the 4th amendment is overrated. If you say something bad to a federal thug you’ll probably hurt his feelings. And That’s a crime, right? Well, if not it should be.
People are getting killed by illegals.
Laken Riley was killed because an illegal wanted to rape her pussy!
What about our right to be safe?
Fuck off and die, shitstain.
Libertarian: THE LAW IS THE LAW!
Say, um, Shrike, did you manage to get your SPB account banned again or something?
I’m not Buttplug. His politics are, objectively speaking, more reasoned than my anarcho-libertarian viewpoints. I’m more George Orwell. He’s more Ronald Reagan. Not that any of you fucking Trumpian Peanuts could tell the difference. It’s all praise Dear Leader or you’re the communist menace for you turds.
What happened to “nobody is above the law”?
What happened to our right to be safe?
Fuck off and die, asswipe.
The law is the law.
You don't have to think the law is moral in order to understand that breaking the law is going to get you taken down by law enforcement.
She chose this.
Cary López Alvarado, a U.S. citizen who is nine months pregnant, was detained after blocking immigration agents from entering what she believed to be private property.
Not sure this is the week to be calling for special exceptions to the law based on skin color.Not sure that any week is the week for libertarians, Americans, or both to be calling for special exceptions to the law based on sex or skin color, but this week it would seem exceptionally dishonest and retarded to try and make such a case.
Fuck off. You get arrested for aiding and abetting and the penalties for actively impeding law enforcement is even steeper. The tear jerking detail of her being pregnant actually pisses me off even more because she is using her child as a shield. She put her own kid at risk to protect her illegal "partner" (does that mean boyfriend, husband, fiance, or just baby daddy?)
I wonder whether they assumed she is from Mexico just because she's Hispanic or does she have a heavy accent and poor English skills. I'd put money on her being a child of illegal immigrants and a beneficiary of the stupid birthright citizenship interpretation.
This isn't the kind of story to highlight if you're trying to help immigrants or strike fear into citizens.
You're right. The cops should have kicked her in the stomach a few times to kill the little bastard and teach her unwed Mexican ass a lesson. They certainly wouldn't have lost any sleep over it.
They just needed to arrest her.
This.
Look at sarc have to project to pretend he is the moral one. What a fucking leftist retard.
The tear jerking detail of her being pregnant actually pisses me off even more because she is using her child as a shield.
Worse, is the people like Autumn and the forum contributors in agreement. Because they either refuse to understand the problem or insist on presenting it dishonestly, they're legitimately going to get someone who doesn't know any better than to believe them hurt.
Maybe this woman actually believes what she's saying, I have my doubts, but, if she does, this puts the responsibility for her "People have a reasonable expectation of privacy from arrest in a public/corporate parking garage." delusion, and the consequences thereof, squarely on Autumn and people like her.
Talk about argumentum ad passiones. How awful for all those poor leftist souls in DC trying to make a better life for themselves through congressional reapportionment.
López Alvarado was detained after attempting to block two masked Border Patrol agents from entering her place of work without a warrant.
I'm a big fan of the 4th overall but this isn't her property. It's her place of work, at a property she doesnt own, and they were entering the parking lot. This whole story is a joke.
And "her property" isn't the correct argument. These are arrest and detention police powers, not search and seizure. If the cops think you're the suspect in a bank robbery, you can't just run into the local Starbucks and shout "Reasonable expectation of privacy!" even the no-shit owner can't claim it.
This, once again in light of public accommodation and the 14A, is an exceedingly tortured, dishonest, and utterly fucked up interpretation of (both) the 4A (and the 14A). This is Reason siding with the shoplifters and Oberlin College against Gibson's Bakery.
The immigrants flouted the law. The citizen was wholly ignorant of virtually every last shred of the law. The law was doing *exactly* what it's supposed to do and "Reason" [drink] is playing teh feelz card because somebody was both pregnant and a citizen.
It's seriously mentally damaging stupidity.
Also, this is an illegal with a baby mama US citizen and he was running to hide from ICE at her work.
This isnt the tragedy we're supposed to think it is.
Yes we know, you're a "big fan of the 4th" and yet you also think that people ought to carry their papers everywhere otherwise they will be kicked out for being "illegal".
Fuck off slaver.
We know your kind: "illegal immigrant" = "no rights"
Oh, hi lockdown supporter.
So who is this 'sarcastmic' asswipe, and why are so many of you bothering to reply to his trolling? This is a man-child desperately in need of attention. Why give it to him? You might want to take a good look at yourselves. In general, the libertarian group and its writers are decidedly and predictably negative about everything. Just look at the headlines. Libertarians are as silly as communists in that they insist on a human nature that has never existed.
I always figured half of them are in on it. I mean, the sarcastic guy doesn't even have to post, the idiots on the other side of the argument will start arguing with him when he isn't even in the discussion.
The whole point is to completely disrupt any reasonable discussion, right? A forum full of petty bickering absolutely buries any other conversation way down thread, so there you go. Conversation disrupted.
The rest just want to fight all the time and never learned the don't feed the trolls logic. Personally, one of the few reasons I made an account was to mute the guy, and a few of the other most obvious trolls.
It is primarily to stop another long match through institutions to stop takeover from the left. Same with responses to shrike and Jeff.
We've ready seen a sudden change to other outfits like CATO after a fortunate few visits by soros. We see on sites claiming to be libertarian end up nothing more than open border liberals. You see the regime LP support raising income taxes even at this site. Etc. Etc.
At some point you can't just ignore the slow takeover or manipulation of an ideal but have to actually push back.
Ignoring this shit is how institutions like universities ended up as mindless leftist hell holes.
I mean, play stupid games and win stupid prizes. She knew the two people she just let in were illegal, and tried to interfere with their arrest. She's lucky she's not facing charges.
The border jumpers have officially joined the ranks of the terrorists. They are literally hiding behind women and children to get away with their wrongdoing.
Najera and the co-worker—who are both undocumented
Who are both what?
Trump's onslaught of immigration enforcement has raised many questions regarding due process for [criminal aliens] living in the United States. Now, the same questions are being raised for American citizens.
Y'know, if I were harboring a fugitive in my basement, and the cops knew the fugitive (or even just suspected criminal) was there, and they had a valid reason to capture him, and I was obstructing justice - I mean, what do you think is going to happen?
What, you thought throwing "full-term pregnant woman" into the equation was going to make anyone forget that?
Don't harbor criminals. It's pretty simple.
A 3rd hand report of an incident we know only by hearsay. And Autumn's usual "no innocent people were truly helped, only illegality and injustice aplenty" Sorry, I don't believe it.
Here is a statement from Bill Melugin.
https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1933553488241569929