The Rise of the Woke Right
Some conservatives are embracing the very trends they once mocked—including victimhood, cancel culture, and even struggle sessions.

In 2018, some activists, appalled by woke nonsense being published by academic journals, submitted nonsensical research.
One paper claimed researchers "closely and respectfully examined the genitals of…ten thousand dogs" to learn about "rape culture and queer performativity at urban dog parks."
Some journals published it!
In my new video, one of the hoaxers, James Lindsay, claims this "woke virus" now has spread to the right:
"There is a radical segment embedded within MAGA…that acts the same way, uses the same tactics, acts like the woke left."
I was skeptical. But to make his point, Lindsay pulled off a new hoax.
He rewrote parts of The Communist Manifesto and, using the pseudonym Marcus Carlson (a play on Karl Marx), submitted it to the conservative magazine American Reformer.
His article criticized classical liberal ideas like free markets, global trade, and individual freedom, like Marx did.
Yet the conservative magazine published it.
Even after a reader pointed out that it was The Communist Manifesto, the magazine kept its article up, writing, "It's still a reasonable aggregate of some New Right ideas."
The New Right, says Lindsay, acts like the woke left.
"There's the victimhood mentality, the cancel culture, struggle sessions. They bully people online with swarms; they rewrite history."
The New York Times' 1619 Project rewrote history, claiming America was founded to protect slavery.
Today's woke right say: Hitler "was trying to encourage community…family values," (claims social media influencer Dan Bilzerian).
"I want total Aryan victory….The only way we are going to make America great again is if we make this country Christian again," says white supremacist Nick Fuentes.
Fuentes' videos have received more than 30 million views. On his show, he says, "Jews better start being nice to people like us because what comes out of this is going to be a lot uglier and a lot worse for them."
Influencer Andrew Tate won 10 million followers largely by attacking feminism: "I am absolutely sexist."
"'Men should be in charge, knock the women down,'" sighs Lindsay, "The woke right literally becomes all the caricatures that the woke left said conservatives are: 'racist, sexist, homophobes.'"
"They're fringe," I say to Lindsay. "No real threat."
"That's what everybody said about woke kids on campuses," he replies.
That shut me up. I admit I thought brainwashed college progressives would drop "safe spaces," trigger warnings, speech codes, and other silly ideas once they had to earn a living.
But I was wrong. Most didn't. Those kids brought about lots of change. Their preferences got many companies to mandate diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) training and led many employees to fear speaking honestly at work.
But today, says Lindsay, the energy is on the right.
"It's great that we're having a conservative revival…but there's also called 'falling off the cliff.'"
Elected officials now say things like, "We should be Christian nationalists!" (Republican Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia) and, "I'm tired of this separation of church and state junk," (Republican Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado).
"Your ability to believe as you will," says Lindsay, "worship as you will without state interference, is a bedrock idea of the American experiment. Woke right, like the woke left, is this litany of bad ideas."
He fears that next election, the woke right will elect the woke left.
"The left is going to say, Hillary Clinton was right to call [people on the right] 'deplorable.' Then the left will sweep back in and dominate."
COPYRIGHT 2025 BY JFS PRODUCTIONS INC.
Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
The woke right is a bullshit term. It was developed by Marxists who got pissed at the people who were Turning their strategies against them
James Lindsay is good at research, but his takes the whole woke right/ Christian nationalism are a boogeyman the left came up with that he accepts.
For instance I haven't heard may Christian nationalists looking to kick out the rag heads (we should), also they seem to like the jews and support them (we shouldn't support them or the people trying to kill them). Neighter build a Christian nationalist. And for the most part they seem to be okay with the fags, most even accepting gay marage, (which is a mistake.)
Basically this.
A term creates to hide the hypocrisy of those demanding equal application of actions and laws. A term used primarily to demand the left can abuse rights and laws and get zero push back.
Yeah sure, you've just "adopted Marxist strategies". Definitely not a lefty. Definitely hate government intrusion. Definitely not ballz-deep in ideology. John Stossel is obviously a commie Democrat, and you're definitely not at all just like every other disaffected asshole out there looking for a "win".
Scottie with another diatribe from ignorance.
The term woke right and Lindsay in particular have been discussed for months. Look into it dumdum.
"I'm not a hypocrite! You've just missed the expert discussion!"
Good lefty. Now roll over.
Wow. Scottie now goes full retard lol.
That ship sailed a very long time ago.
There is no "woke right". There are a bunch of left-wing apostates who are as militantly anti-Democrat as they were once militantly pro-Democrat, and that means voting for Trump, but they're not right-wing. They haven't changed ideologies at all; only alliances.
Associating them with the Right is as tired and stupid as the 2016-era effort to associate the entire Right with David Duke.
Murray Rothbard created 'paleolibertarianism' specifically to appeal to David Duke and his ilk and make them 'acceptable' to R's of the Pat Buchanan ilk. Those notions pervade MAGAMises and the commentariat here.
Given your rabid Jew hatred, I’m surprised you aren’t a Duke acolyte. Or isn’t he socialist enough for you?
In any event, no, MAGA isn’t a racist enclave. Nice try though, eh comrade?
Lies.
And when Duke tried to formally attach himself to the GOP, and got idiots in Louisiana to back him the GOP started telling people to vote for the Dem just to keep him out.
The “war on Christmas” crybabies are a perfect example of the woke right.
Your edited post doesn't have anything to do with your initial post.
Undermining religion is a stated goal of Marxism. The efforts of the USSR and CCP certainly speak to the efficacy of the tactic.
Don't confuse the pandering of opportunists in outrage media with the measured observations in honest discussions of politics and history.
Not everyone celebrates Christmas and it seems like suck a trivial thing to get upset over. Especially because the vast majority of the time when someone says “Happy Holidays” they have no intent to diss or undermine Christianity. It’s not much different from lefties complaining about trivial crap. It’s pathetic.
I usually say “Seasons greetings” or “happy holidays,” but if someone says Merry Christmas I’ll say it back because I don’t care. The people who complain about it just wanna be victims and feel sorry for themselves.
Religion has far too much influence in American society, so I have no problem undermining it.
James Lindsay's initial "prank" was published by at least one state college and several peer reviewed scientific publications.
Here's the American Reformer's website:
https://americanreformer.org/
Fuck you John Stossel, you were a fool when you were on 20/20 and you're a fool now.
They've got a forum!
It's the same guy over two weeks.
"James Clark is the Book Review Editor at The North American Anglican. His writing has appeared in Front Porch Republic, Journal of Classical Theology, and Evangelical Quarterly, as well as other publications."
https://americanreformer.org/category/forum/
This is not meant as an insult to Mr. Clark, the (I'm sure) Great Book Reviewer, but to point out the insane dishonesty to compare this publication to all the publications that fell for the initial prank by Lindsay.
Anyone involved in this should not be taken seriously when discussing serious, complex issues.
It's funny that Lindsey falls for his own pranks.
Stossel struck a nerve eh?
That'll happen when someonone points out you are becoming what you once hated. Don't worry. Cognitive dissonance will make it all better.
What nerve did he strike? Do you imagine I work for some random conservative blog that nobody’s ever heard of and got fooled to publish a pro-Marxist article?
Retard.
What nerve did he strike?
The one that prompted this: Fuck you John Stossel, you were a fool when you were on 20/20 and you’re a fool now
He just doesn’t like the guy.
QB is new to the internet.
And actually, I’ve liked most of what he’s done at Reason. This is just one of the most pathetic boaf sidez I’ve seen in a while.
Yeah, this isn’t his best work.
As much as I love Stossel’s takes on pretty much everything he publishes here, the idea that there is a “woke right” is just laughable, as Paul explains below.
At worst you could say the right has adopted some of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals approach, but even that is a bit of a stretch because at the end of the day, conservatives are largely reactionaries, reacting to the overt and covert ways the left tries to upend the Apple cart, as it were.
The problem, at least IMHO, is that some things aren’t worth conserving, but where and what is going to be very individualistic.
I love Stossel, but this was a bit cringe on his part. I didn't see much pushback of Lindsay. Lindsay is desperate for attention and has been attacking everyone on the right that disagrees with him on anything. Hell, Lindsay accused Dave Smith of being woke right because he doesn't support Israel.
Fuck you John Stossel, you were a fool when you were on 20/20 and you’re a fool now.
Yeah, the whole thing is, at best, a boomer libertarian tumbling down the woke gaslighting rabbit hole. At worst, he's collecting his paycheck as an affirmed propagandist.
Wait, James, I love you, really I do. Been following you for years, but James, baby, this isn't the same thing as your hoax papers to academic journals or the Sokal Parody done in the 90s. This isn't even close to the same thing.
American Reformer:
American Reformer’s mission is to promote a vigorous Christian approach to the cultural challenges of our day, rooted in the rich tradition of Protestant social and political thought. Focusing particularly on issues facing American Christians, we will seek to contribute to the reformation of Christian institutions that have become corrupted by false ideologies and practices.
Our Journal aims at equipping evangelical Christians to confidently and forthrightly defend Scriptural truths and natural law in the face of widespread cultural capitulation, addressing topics and perspectives ignored or dismissed by mainstream publications. You can find submission guidelines here
This is 900 miles from an university or academic journal which claims to be peer-reviewed and empirical. This is a religious magazine-- a protestant one no-less that muses on cultural issues.
hAHa, diD hE STriKe A nErvE?
— Retard Brix
You both have a valid point, but Paul remained quite calm and logical in his critique showing no signs he's struggling with internal dissonance.
So you agree with my point but I hurt your feewings with my naughty words?
What are these feelings you speak of?
Mike is demanding we ignore his hypocrisy of supporting bad acts of the left while he criticizes any attacks against said acts by the right.
Similar to how sarc applauds the acts of the left but only criticizes the right while claiming he was always against both sides.
Mike is a Democrat.
Uh no, he's committed two different types of hoaxes. One was he sent laughably false research papers to academic journals. What he did here was submit the 1619 project to the New York Times. Both are 100% worthy of criticism, but each requires a specific type of criticism and for very different reasons. The New York Times is-- by its own admission-- an opinion journal. It's not a research publication that's going to be used as a guide to teach your children and give them a college degree. The American Reformer isn't... to the best of my knowledge, doing anything like that.
The other issue that I haven't touched on is that 'wokeness' has a specific meaning that James has kind of forgotten. To be gentle on him, I think he's using the term 'woke' as a 'pattern of intolerant behavior'. That's not what woke is. Woke (as it was invented by the left/woke) is "to be awakened to the systemic injustices that are woven throughout society [which have become or are invisible to the wider population, especially those with power and privilege, such as white people]".
This is what 'trigger warnings' come from, it's what 'safe spaces' are about, it's how you explain 'internalized white supremacy' or 'internalized misogyny'. Once you are 'awakened' to these concepts which ail society, you become hyper-aware of their existence and then reconfigure your life to fight it. It's why 'wokeness' is an all-consuming and sorry to say, naturally progressive ideology.
And generates genuinely miserable people.
I guess Reason is still staying out of the culture war by continuing to advance the EVUL KRISCHUN NASHUNALISS! narrative.
Fuck 'em.
Intelligent conservative pundits don't swoon over regurgitated Marx. Outrage pornographers publish outrage, and it sounds like Lindsay is promoting some of his own 'both sides!' narrative.
The curious thing is why Stossel thinks it is noteworthy. I thought his whole schtick was "take a breath, we are not all going to die".
"There is a radical segment embedded within MAGA…that acts the same way, uses the same tactics, acts like the woke left."
That's because they're fighting fire with fire.
It's precisely why I - for one - am not MAGA. There are no winners in a race to the bottom.
Lindsay, Bilzerian, Fuentes, Tate
They aren't "the right."
This is beneath you, Stossel.
It's disappointing from him. Lindsay lost his mind trying to retain relevance with his "woke right" crusade but I didn't think Stossel would jump on that bandwagon.
I think equating the new woke right with white supremacy misses the most apparent branch of today's woke right: Israel.
Feel bad about the slaughter of Palestinian children? You're an antisemite. End of discussion. Your ideas are unacceptable and you must leave the country if the lawfare state can stretch any law in any manner to accomplish that. We see this attitude in the comments here all the time.
The right has been much faster in adopting authoritarianism to enforce their beliefs and they'll be discarded by voters much faster than the left was.
But these identity politics are barely an annoyance here in the US compared to the embracing of leftist central planning of the economy and rejection of the principle of free speech that the woke right is embracing with fervor.
Ah yes, make it about Israel. Totally normal and not antisemitic at all. Thanks Misek.
Yes, like that.
“Feel bad about the slaughter of Palestinian children?”
At the most charitable interpretation, you are having an emotional response to Hamas’ propaganda, which has been proven false time after time. In order to sympathize with an organization that gleefully published its war crimes to the world, and would, if it had the ability, destroy the Israeli state and slaughter its population.
Again, at the most charitable, you are an unthinking dupe.
You just proved his point without even knowing it.
Thay qb, and you, fall for emotional narratives the left pushes?
You are funny.
You are oblivious.
Lol. Hilarious.
Again, at the most charitable, you are an unthinking dupe.
Right. I disagree so my point is stupid and immoral. No need to give it a second though. This is exactly the woke ideology.
" I disagree so my point is stupid and immoral."
Your point is based on untrue information in support of war criminals, because you feel for them. Which means you are not thinking, just emoting in support of an unjust cause. Your point is stupid and immoral because a rational analysis of the facts shows it so.
Thank you
“If you oppose the genocide of the Palestinian people then you support Hamas!”
Talk about false equivalency.
If you are saying the Palestinian people are being subjected to genocide, then you are a fool or a liar.
What else would you call systematically shooting, bombing and starving millions of people while taking their land and destroying everything they own?
Systematically bombing and shooting their literal enemy. The ones who kidnapped and raped and murdered thousands. Then hid behind their citizens. You know... the citizens that are now cheering when US brings supplies because Hamas was seizing most of it for their own soldiers. In a land that was designated to them after millions of them were slaughtered in an actual genocidal attempt. The same land that their ancestors lived in for centuries longer than those who came and took in by force well after BC became AD.
How many participated in those atrocities? A few thousand?
How many Gazans have been systematically killed? Low estimates are six figures. And they’re rising every day. Especially since they’re not allowed to, you know, eat and stuff.
Criticizing the destruction of Gaza and the genocide of the Palestinian people does not equal supporting Hamas. That’s a false equivalency peddled by imbeciles and liars.
Which one are you?
The same land that their ancestors lived in for centuries longer than those who came and took in by force well after BC became AD.
Practice what you preach and go back to Europe or wherever it is your family came from.
Given that that is a hyperbolic description of what is happening, and is dishonest.
I call it war. A war that the governing body of Gaza brought on themselves based on what they did on 10/07/23. Israel is trying to create a situation where Hamas will not be able to commit such atrocities for a long time. If Hamas wanted to end the war, they could surrender and give back the hostages. They choose not to do so.
I call it war.
I call it an excuse to steal land and systematically kill or starve what will likely be hundreds of thousands of civilians by the time it’s over. You’re completely fine with that. I’m not. That doesn't mean I support Hamas. It means I don't support waging war against the civilian population and blocking humanitarian aid.
If you call it genocide you are basing shit on emotions, not facts.
The ICC even admitted they had to change the definition of genocide to go after Israel retard.
Feel bad about the slaughter of Palestinian children? You’re an antisemite. End of discussion.
It's far worse than that. If you disagree with the genocide of the entire Palestinian people and the theft of their land then you're a dirty Jew hater. Talk about irony.
What genocide? Use numbers instead of false Hamas created propaganda.
No, the problem is when you start calling it a genocide and pushing death numbers that everyone involved (Hamas, the Media, our own government) know are bullshit.
He was even given the link that Hamas admitted to lying to everyone.
What happens when you deprive millions of people of food while bombing their cities into oblivion? A block party? Use some common sense. Yes what Hamas did was terrible. Does justify bombing and starving millions of people who did not participate in the atrocities? I don't think so. Maybe you do.
As far as numbers go, what are the "real" ones? You say everyone's numbers are bullshit, so you must know the truth. What is it?
Does justify bombing and starving millions of people who did not participate in the atrocities? I don’t think so.
That makes you a fool.
Being sovereign means being responsible for the actions of your citizens. Did the people of Gaza arrest and charge those involved in the attack on Israel with crimes? No. Did they elect Hamas to represent them? Yes. What is happening in Gaza is the most basic lesson in consequences.
If someone in my house were firing a rifle at passersby from an upstairs window, should I expect the police to politely knock on my front door? If they force entry and I am standing there with a shotgun in hands pointed at them, although it is clearly not the weapon used to harm passerby, are they justified in using lethal force without hesitation?
Now, what if I subdue the person firing the rifle and drag him into the front yard before they arrive? Would the police still be justified to break down my door? Would they be justified in shooting me if I am brandishing a shotgun to hold the criminal in check?
The conflict in Gaza is not as complex as you pretend. The Gazans could put an end to it at any time by surrendering militarily and offering up the leaders to answer for their crimes. If the Gazans can't do that, sovereign Israel has every right to force it upon them through open warfare.
The simple fact that Israel hasn’t carpet bombed the shit out of Gaza and instead warns civilians living there where they are attacking in advance of the attack puts lie to the idea that they are trying to eradicate Palestinians.
“Does justify bombing and starving millions of people who did not participate in the atrocities? I don’t think so.”
War is fucking hell which is why I always advise against starting one.
Is this the first time you’ve heard of James Lindsey and his “woke right” crusade, lol?
I'm more familiar with Dave Smith's woke right crusade.
""The right has been much faster in adopting authoritarianism to enforce their beliefs""
Where do you live?
I'm in NYC, lots of authoritarianism here.
I’m in NYC
I'm sorry.
I'm not saying the left didn't use authoritarianism. I'm just saying they eased in to it more gradually (over decades) than Trump's administration.
FDR has wheeled into the chat.
LOL.
To be fair, qb thinks authoritarianism is opposing the left.
Every one of his positions is in support of the one way ratchet of leftist policy.
I do feel bad about the slaughter of Palestinian children, and it really makes me mad that Hamas causes that.
Hamas shares the blame for this, but Israel is not without responsibility for the death and oppression in Palestine.
Yeah, it's all a rich tapestry. But if you don't want the consequences of a war, don't start a war. War sucks and always harms lots of innocent people. I don't think anyone is blameless when you are talking about nation states and similar entities. At best such things are necessary evils. Hamas bears most of the blame for what is happening to the people they claim authority over. They knew exactly what would happen if they attacked Israel as they did. If the slaughter of innocent children means that a war must stop, then even the most justified war would have to stop on day one, even if that means letting a dangerous and motivated enemy continue doing very bad things. If you provoke a war, then you don't have much legitimacy to complain when the power you provoked decides to finish it.
Yeah, it’s all a rich tapestry. But if you don’t want the consequences of a war, don’t start a war.
Right. And the tapestry is further enriched by the well documented propping up of hamas that Israel has done via Netanyahu to prevent a more moderate government from coming to power to attain a more peaceful solution to the abuses Israel inflicted on gaza.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html
Your entire analysis is crap. You’re basically hand waving away any criticism of the left as some kind of knee jerk authoritarianism. Which is what leftists always do. Trying to shame any criticism of the left’s villainy and its authoritarianism.
That’s the same kind of weasels sophism employed by Pedo Jeffy.
Don’t be like Pedo Jeffy.
Mike has always been allies with pedo jeffy...
You’re basically hand waving away any criticism of the left as some kind of knee jerk authoritarianism.
I'm not. Criticism of the left is absolutely fine with me. There's plenty to criticize.
Another thing that's fine to criticize is the very thick authoritarian streak running through MAGA (that has nothing to do with criticizing the left).
It's quite possible that what I'm referring to does not apply to you, so don't take it personally, but it does exist, where any criticism of Israel's policies are equated to antisemitism. Dave Smith goes on ad nauseam about it if you'd like some real world examples.
I should be able to say I think Israel's treatment of the Palestinians is cruel and unjustifiable. You should be able to say it is necessary and justifiable without either of us needing to accuse the other of any kind of bigotry or ignorance.
What the woke do is make the argument itself immoral.
You can see the woke right at work in almost every thread I post in. My principles align with theoretical libertarians. Most commenters here are MAGA right and attack me, not my ideas, but me, because my values are unacceptable, wrong and immoral to the MAGA movement. You can see it all over this very page. That's woke.
I should be able to say I think Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians is cruel and unjustifiable.
You can say it, but you are wrong. Hamas started this and Hamas could end this, but they refuse.
Hitler offed himself and saved the Allies the trouble. For the Emperor of Japan it took a 2nd nuke. For Hamas, it seems the eradication of all infrastructure is still not enough. Rotten luck for the Palestinians. Maybe they should call for elections and elect a government that gives a fuck about them.
You can say it, but you are wrong.
Yes, I think this is an appropriate non-woke way to counter my points. I always found you quite reasonable, so no surprise there.
Feel bad about the slaughter of Palestinian children?
Feel bad about the slaughter of Jewish children?
Feel bad about sympathizing with the people who danced after they slaughtered those children, while posting videos of that slaughter?
Know what I feel bad about?
I feel bad that the entire world gets wrapped up in the internecine strife between the inbred desert tribes that foisted all three of these religions on the planet.
The Jews want everyone who isn't a Jew to go away, the Muslims want to convert of kill anyone who isn't a Muslim, and the Christians just stand there like idiots thinking they can talk their way back into prominence.
Everyone should just back the hell off and let them settle it.
We can talk to whoever is alive at the end.
Yep. I'm on board with all this.
The New York Times’ 1619 Project rewrote history, claiming America was founded to protect slavery.
Everyone knows it was for No Taxation without Representation, right? And the conservatives are definitely against the progressives who want to tear down our founders statutes and ideals.
Was it you who was talking about Reason as *very* earnest satire?
The article is actually a lot more straightforward if we’ve misunderstood him and his point is objective or even apt or favorable.
“This is it. The ‘woke right’ is nowhere near taking over academia.; nowhere near shadowbanning and deplatforming people across social media and convincing the medical establishment to castrate children. You can relax. We got the best guy for looking into this and the ‘rise’ is just a few obscure web blogs on the internet who maybe only appreciate Marx as a critique. No need to panic (again).”
Let’s hoax the leading research publications representing an entire field of study used in major universities everywhere.
*success*
Ok, now let’s hoax a protestant newsletter read by pretty much no one.
*success*
BOWF SIDEZ!
Thank you.
It always boils down to SCALE, which is carefully omitted by the Propagandists.
Was it you who was talking about Reason as *very* earnest satire?
Nope.
Too bad, because I think that's kind of a great description.
Yes. There is an overzealous religious right that wants to ‘woke’ their religious beliefs. Point & Case … The destruction of Roe v Wade with no reason but excuses of ‘moral standards’, ‘drugs’ and ‘prostitution’.
However; that side is still a minority part of the right.
And I truly hope it becomes even more of a minority.
Difference being scale.
The Left is 80% wrapped in woke BS whereas the right say ~20%.
And since Left 'owns' it; just call them Religious RINO'S.
Roe was overturned because it was a usurpation of state authority by the judiciary by extremely dubious legal arguments, the "penumbras and emanations" Blackmun pulled from his nether regions.
Otherwise, yeah, the government has no business enforcing mere moral standards like injunctions against murder, theft, fraud, etc.
RvW was a textbook example of judicial activism. It was legislating from the bench because the ruling became the law. It didn’t strike down or affirm a law. It became the law. Partisans of course can’t understand the concept because they feel that any ruling that they don’t like is judicial activism. But people with functioning brains who can think instead of just emoting for their team understand the difference. Anyway, it needed to be overturned because courts don't write the law.
“It was legislating from the bench” … LOL
RvW literally ruled it couldn’t be legislated pre-viable by the feds or the state.
Do you wear your shoes on your head too?
RvW ruled that it couldn't be legislated because the ruling became the law you fucking retard.
As a person with principles (something you're too dumb to understand) I was totally in favor of the ruling being struck down. Not because I agreed with it or disagreed with it (again, something you are too stupid to understand), but because judges aren't supposed to create law.
WHAT law did the ruling create?
The ?law? that the law couldn't invade such personal space?
Shoes on your head. You're 100% upside down of reality.
RvW defined the three trimester framework. Up until the ruling that was not the law. That framework was not created by Congress. It was created by SCOTUS. The Court literally wrote the law with regards to abortion.
I’ll award you 1/2 a deceitful/faulty point for that because that mistake wasn’t avoided by Dobbs it was EXPLODED.
The ruling should’ve stated that by the 4A “The right of the people to be secure in their persons” that a person is to retain complete decisions over their own F’En bodily functions at any time-frame without Fed or State dictating it.
But instead; all the repeal did was allowed the Gov-Guns to run rampant around the 4A and the 13A.
And people accuse me of day drinking. Jeez.
RvW never discussed trimester. It discussed viability. Even when you're close to being right you're ignorant. God damn.
"" It was legislating from the bench because the ruling became the law.""
But it didn't become law. If you think RvW became law, then you are accepting judicial activism. Liberals accepted the belief that it was law and that's why they were upset it was struck down.
People who didn't accept RvW as law are not upset it was overturned.
Roe v Wade SPECIFICALLY ruled FEDS nor the STATE had any authority.
It ruled it a PERSONAL decision for the INDIVIDUAL by the 4A.
Course everyone knows this. Yet, Religious authoritarian freak-jobs will continue to craft up BS claims like this to cover their authoritarian desires ... as does the ‘woke’ leftards.
The argument is whether the Court had authority to make such a ruling, and whether the legal reasoning to claim such authority was logically valid.
"Yet, Religious authoritarian freak-jobs..."
Whinging insults are not an argument.
Yes. It is the courts JOB to LIMIT the Gov-Guns according to the Supreme Law of the Land.
Which is EXACTLY what it did with Roe v Wade.
Just because the Supreme Court never does actually uphold the US Constitution over the government doesn't mean that's not what it's very existence is for.
1. Roe v wade should never have existed overturning it was correct
2. The ragheads are absolutely wanting religious law in the US, yet we hear no words about this from the marxist
1. Only the Gov-Gun-Gods can made decisions about my body! /s
Some radical Muslims are actually trying to build a city that will be self governed under sharia law, in Texas. But all we hear about from the left is screeching about displaying the Fifteen, er……. Ten Commandments.
Fifteen, er……. Ten Commandments
That was a great scene from Mel Brooks!
Trumpians have more in common with the leftists they hate than they do with conservatives or libertarians.
You are just mad the leftist crusade got interrupted as you cheered the lefts abuses. You demand no action against these bad acts, calling arresting or firing those who abused their powers in government retaliation and immoral.
Your demand is bald and is one to protect the left from consequence.
The most glaring example is you stating officer Byrd was right to kill an unarmed woman. But you also demand those who abused their government positions never be fired, usaid abusing taxpayer money never be defended, etc.
Right... because Democrats have always focused on De-Regulating, Cutting-Taxes/Spending and LIMITING the government to only Constitutional authority.... /s hahahahahaha.
Because you both redefine words to suit you. Examples include “jurisdiction” “due process” “emergency”.
You both are in favor of massive tax increases. In your case that would be tariffs.
You both consider criticism of your Dear Leader to be a mental illness.
Leftists can’t decide right or wrong without knowing personal attributes of the people involved, and you Trumpians can’t decide right or wrong without knowing the politics of the people involved.
You both like price controls.
Trumpians mock the “decadent western lifestyle”, just like communists.
You both have a dumbass scapegoat. Leftists blame climate change for all the ills in the world, and you blame Democrats.
You both believe that if someone disagrees with how something is done then they don’t want that something to be done at all.
You both call any court ruling you don’t like “activist”.
You both only support the Constitution when convenient.
Leftards support higher income taxes because they feel it won’t affect them, while you support higher import taxes because you feel it won’t affect you.
When it comes to the seen and the unseen, you both deny the unseen exists.
You're both economic ignoramuses who deny comparative advantage and opportunity cost.
You both raise taxes on businesses and tell them to eat it.
As I said, you’ve got more in common with the leftists you hate than with conservatives or libertarians.
""You both consider criticism of your Dear Leader to be a mental illness.""
Nope. But some people make everything out to be Trump. They will never give him credit for anything other than bad things. They will misrepresent his words at every corner. They will isolate themselves from people who say anything nice about Trump. Anyone who says anything nice about Trump will be put in a box labeled Trumpista, then assume you are a bad person. They will disown their own family for that reason. They live in fear because Trump is going to bad things.
That's the mental illness. How far you on that scale?
He’s terminal. Although his alcoholism will likely kill him first.
"How far you on that scale?"
I think he checks under his bed for Trump every night.
You just described everything Democrats do.
The only correlation you've got there is...
Leftard Self-Projection 101.
Contrary to your BS narrative - Supporters of Trump don't 'favor' Tariffs. They favor a tax balance between building across the pond and building domestically. Unlike those who do the exact opposite (YOU).
I described some of what you have in common with Democrats (the list is a work in progress), dumbass. If you hate those things then you should hate yourself.
That’s not me or anyone else here that supports Trump.
That’s some self-projected straw-man you built in your own imagination.
i.e. A reflection of yourself.
A reflection of yourself.
Yeah, that’s why I argue against all of those things while you defend them. Dumbass.
Nah, you’re just a drunk, lying hypocrite. You’re a nasty version of Otis Campbell, and the Reason equivalent of a town drunk.
Supporters of Trump don’t ‘favor’ Tariffs. They favor a tax balance between building across the pond and building domestically. Unlike those who do the exact opposite (YOU).
Like I said, you support the biggest tax increase in generations. And your excuse is based upon willful ignorance of economics. Another thing you have in common with leftists. They hate economics because it doesn't justify their interventions in the economy so they pretend the field does not exist, just like you.
Youre literally demanding a 3.8T tax increase dumbfuck.
""the biggest tax increase in generations.""
Or perhaps not.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/muted-may-inflation-defies-tariff-fears/ar-AA1GvH1Q?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=451b67744f9a436fb210abd7fcfe57e5&ei=25
https://www.btimesonline.com/articles/174687/20250611/us-inflation-holds-at-2-4-in-may-despite-trump-s-tariffs-core-rate-unchanged-at-2-8.htm
Is that your ignorance of economics that the $36T debt will just fade-away magically or the ignorance of economics that taxing JUST domestic creation for it is somehow in domestics favor of productivity?
For someone who sticks bumper-stickers of ‘economics’ everywhere you don’t even seem to understand the very basics of a Debt having to be paid.
If it wasn’t for Democrats and Leftards endless spending there wouldn’t have to be a significant portion of either. BUT there is and your ‘economics’ flag waving isn’t going to make that disappear.
You both have a dumbass scapegoat. Leftists blame climate change for all the ills in the world, and you blame Democrats.
Don't forget the biggest scapegoats Trump and his supports have, illegal immigrants. Damn feriners. Once they're gone America will be great again. Job done
Retards leading the retards. You and sarc should hang out at a half million dollar lake house.
Oh yeah. Make Amerika grate again.
How do you continue to accuse others of redefining words that you dont actually understand? The redefinition didn't occur by your enemies. The redefinition is you not doing 5 minutes of understanding on what the words actually mean.
What the actual fuck?
1
"Some libertarians are molesting children"
OMG!!! "Libertarianism is just a front for pedophiles"!
Fallacy of composition. A partisan favorite.
Quit supporting groomers and child rapists, and don’t white knight for them here.
Yet the conservative magazine published it.
This would seem to be a bad faith opposition to free speech on your and Lindsey’s part John.
Skipping to the end; if they take it down, they’re engaged in shadowbanning and cancel culture “from the right”, if they leave it up, it’s an unerring call for the most rigorous enforcement of the ideas contained therein, and totally not a critique being shared in a niche community, “from the right”. Next you'll say, "I was only pretending to be retarded."
The woke playbook isn’t that deep and your average reader isn’t that retarded no matter how much you treat them like they are. Nobody’s calling for Marcus Carlson to be taught to school children. The American Reformer isn’t trying to rewrite a patently false narrative of American and world history the way the NYT tried to. The FBI isn’t shadow banning anyone from Social Media based on anti-Christian Nationalist rhetoric. Fuck you for pretending and trying to project that they are.
Next you'll say, "I was only pretending to be retarded."
This is an incoherent mish mash of different things.
First – criticism of the excesses of capitalism and particularly globalism is perfectly consistent with traditional conservative thought. It is not only consistent, it is indispensable. To suggest otherwise is pure neocon rubbish. Markets are government constructs, and if you have a global common market, then you have a global common government at some level. Neocon thought does not respect real conservatism or the principles of self-government and decentralization that the US was founded on.
Second, it is correct to push back on the "separation of church and state" concept as it exists today. The phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution and neither does the concept in any way, under a properly understood original meaning.
As for the rest, it’s little more than a few shock jocks peddling bits of racism and misogyny, which is itself nothing more than a mild pendulum overcorrection against the monstrous woke dogma of the day.
The biggest problem with the separation of church and state is that it is a one-way street where the government is required to be hands-off, but the "church" is free to utilize, or at least attempt to utilize, the police power of the government to enforce religious doctrine (see: Blue Laws).
He's right on one thing for sure, the next election is going to be a disaster for the country, and likely the one after that too. This thing keeps heterodyning further each cycle.
MAGA are a bunch of pussies.
Watch out guys! An immigrant may sneak up behind you and beat you up or even steal your woman, if you have one that is.
Please.
Watch out guys! An ICE agent may sneak up behind that "immigrant" and next thing he knows he's in an El Salvadorian dungeon!
And what do you wieners do? Cry and gnash your teeth and wet your pants and whine about legal concepts you don't understand even slightly and pretend to die in the middle of the street having donned a pussyhat and held hands with a cross-dresser.
The Left is unequivocally the segment of society that spends more time screaming at the sky, sobbing into your TikToks, running to safe spaces, and shutting out anything and everything that threatens your fantasy world. Babies.