British Attacks on Free Speech Prove the Value of the First Amendment
Speech codes intended to battle misinformation are instead empowering the government to be the arbiter of truth.

Political activists occasionally propose a new constitutional convention, which would gather delegates from the states to craft amendments to the nation's founding document. It's a long and convoluted process, but the Constitution itself provides the blueprint. Article V allows such a confab if two-thirds of Congress or two-thirds of the state legislatures call for one.
These days, conservatives are the driving force for the idea, as they see it as a means to put further limits on the federal government. Sometimes, progressives propose such a thing. Their goals are to enshrine various social programs and social-justice concepts. Yet anyone who has watched the moronic sausage-making in Congress and state legislatures should be wary of opening Pandora's Box.
I'd be happy enough if both political tribes tried to uphold the Constitution as it is currently drafted. It's a brilliant document that limits the power of the government to infringe on our rights. Without the first 10—the Bill of Rights—this would be a markedly different nation.
For a sense of where we might be without it, I'd recommend looking at Great Britain and its approach to the speech concepts detailed on our First Amendment. Our nation was spawned from the British, so we share a culture and history. Yet, without a specific constitutional dictate, that nation has taken a disturbing approach that rightly offends American sensibilities.
As Tablet magazine reported, "74-year-old Scottish grandmother Rose Docherty was arrested on video by four police officers for silently holding a sign in proximity to a Glasgow abortion clinic reading 'Coercion is a crime, here to talk, only if you want.'" Thousands of Brits are detained, questioned, and prosecuted, it notes, for online posts of the type that wouldn't raise an eyebrow here. The chilling effect is profound.
This isn't as awful as what happens in authoritarian countries such as Russia, where the government's critics have a habit of accidentally falling out of windows. But that's thin gruel. Britain and the European Union are supposed to be free countries. Their speech codes are intended to battle disinformation/misinformation, but empowering the government to be the arbiter of such vague concepts only destroys everyone's freedoms.
In 1998, Great Britain approved Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights. It protects a citizen's "right to hold your own opinions and to express them freely without government interference." But it comes with limits and conditions.
The authorities may quash such speech to "protect national security, territorial integrity (the borders of the state) or public safety," or "prevent disorder or crime," or "protect health or morals," or "maintain the authority and impartiality of judges." One may not express "views that encourage racial or religious hatred." Those are open-ended terms, which has led to bizarre prosecutions.
Our First Amendment includes these words: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble." A constitutional amendment stating "no law" is more protective than a statute with asterisks and exceptions.
With the political Left devoted to limiting speech based on its fixations on race and gender and the political Right's willingness to, say, deport students who take verboten positions on the war in Gaza and malign reporters as enemies of the people, I'd hate to see how speech protections would fare in a refashioned constitution. Traditionally, the Left has taken a "living and breathing" approach, insisting its plain words and founders' intent are up for reinterpretation.
Sadly, modern conservatives, who previously defended originalism, seem ready to ditch the Constitution when it hinders their policy aims. Just read their dissing of due process—as stated in the 5th and 14th amendments, when it comes to immigration policy. When asked about habeas corpus during a Senate hearing, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said it's "a constitutional right that the president has to be able to remove people from this country."
It's the opposite, as habeas corpus requires the government to explain why it's detaining people—and forbids it from holding them indefinitely. MAGA apparently believes the words of the Constitution mean the opposite of what they say. Frankly, I wouldn't want either side to be near a constitutional convention that's empowered to rewrite a document penned by men more brilliant and civic-minded than our current lot.
"Those who won our independence by revolution were not cowards," wrote Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis in the 1927 free-speech case, Whitney v. California. "They did not exalt order at the cost of liberty. … If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."
We don't need to revisit the Constitution, but to uphold the protections already within it.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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Well then REASON should publicly repent for its silence when Biden pushed so hard for the Government Disinformation Board, something far worse than this !!!!!!
that was (D)ifferent
Lying is the cause and enabler of all corruption.
You can lust for all the corruption you want and you won’t ACHIEVE any of it without lying.
Of course there’s always open war, which will come eventually when enough lies are exposed and the corrupt are fully seated in power.
Better to criminalize lying first, by properly defining and prosecuting it with correctly applied logic and science, don’t you think?
That was a rhetorical question.
Liars don’t want to criminalize lying. They do want to censor truth. Until lying is properly criminalized, those who make and enforce laws, will lie.
You are one of the biggest liars here.
If lying were criminalized, you would have racked up dozens of life sentences by now.
Refuted.
Did you see the video from Punk Rock Bowling where one of your Nazi brethren got unceremoniously ejected?
A Misek post that didn't mention Jews once. Huh.
You mean they're hypocrites for not complaining about Biden, and that makes whatever Trump does ok?
not complaining aboutdefendingPoor sarc.
You celebrated censorship dumdum.
Or that Twitter and F***book were coerced into censoring anyone who dared to disagree with official narrative.
What are you talking about? There were numerous articles on here about the ridiculous disinformation board.
https://reason.com/2022/07/19/homeland-security-disinformation-board-nina-jankowicz-no-need/
Look at the year. We'll after they ignored it for 2 years. They only switched when even the NYT had to talk about it and twitterfiles.
Prior to that it was private corporations can censor defense even with evidence of government pushing it.
So fuck off with revisionism.
The Disinformation Governance Board was announced and revealed to the public on April 27, 2022. Reason published an article criticizing it on April 29:
https://reason.com/2022/04/29/new-dhs-board-seeks-to-counter-what-it-thinks-is-disinformation/
Biden's Disinformation Board was far worse but Reason has nothing to repent for. They ran multiple articles calling out that evil abomination.
Only after it became too big a story to hide. Comments were talking about it for years while reason screamed muh private companies.
The US Government was engaging in highly coercive measures to protect public health under George Washington and there were no objections. Free speech is limited when it involves life and death. In the case you mention, hundreds of thousands of Americans died because they listened to the disinformation.
So J.D. Vance was…right?
About the poor state of free speech in Europe, yes, Vance was factually correct in what he said.
"...say, deport students who take verboten positions on the war in Gaza..."
says students welcomed into America on Visa who harass and block other students from going to classes due to their religion should not be allowed in the country? How terrible!
"...and malign reporters as enemies of the people.."
'reporters' who continually lie and distort information and distribute as fact?
Don’t you know they were just “duped” by the White House?
totes. no one, and i mean no one, could see Joementia was a drooling idiot.
Do you mean "reporters such as Jake Tapper?
I know you don't realize it, but you are saying that in fact those students do stir up trouble.
'It's a brilliant document that limits the power of the government...'
That right there puzzles and annoys every single progressive, activist, and neo-socialist, plus half the populists (any flavor).
And is apparently a point lost on Sect. Noem.
Aside from the fact that she inverts the meaning of habeus corpus, her language suggests that our Constitution invests officials with "rights". Individuals have rights, officials have (delegated) authority. Words have meaning, and in legal matters, it is critical that the speaker use wording that is both accurate and precise.
Noem, like Trump, is a totalitarian wannabe.
President Ocasio-Cortez may well deport the very MAGA trolls who are defending Noem and Trump today. It would be poetic justice.
MAGA apparently believes the words of the Constitution mean the opposite of what they say.
The entire constitution? Or just when we the left is discussing trespassers and non-citizen terror sympathizers?
Just the parts that you hate. You know, the parts that say everyone, including people you hate, get due process. Or the part that says everyone, even people you hate, get to express their opinions. You Trump defenders really are no different than leftist. You only respect the Constitution when convenient, and otherwise want King Trump to violate it like it's an advice columnist. I'll add that to the ever growing list of things you and leftists have in common.
Explain to us what you think due process means. But you continue to prove you dont understand the definition.
More than 3300 British citizens have been imprisoned for the crime of "bad speak". Next will be "thought crimes". Those who spoke out against the Pakistani rape/grooming gangs were prosecuted. Those who protested the failure of the government to protect their children were arrested.
There is NO democracy in the U.K. or throughout Europe for that matter. Between the dictatorship of the E.U. in Brussels and their little child molesting lap dog Kweer Stammer in the U.K. Western Europe has become an Orwellian nightmare and Britian is not far behind.
Trumps needs to close every military base in Europe and the U.K. That includes Australia and new Zealand as well. Close every single base. Remove everything down to the concrete slabs and tell 'em to go f*** themselves. Then leave NATO/North Atlantic Terrorist Organization. Trillions saved and tell those rats they're on their own.
Let's see how they act towards Russia now.
How is the weather in Moscow today?
There is a key difference here you are omitting. In regard to deportation, you don't need to go through the same due process for crimes because deportation is an administrative action, not a judicial punishment.
They don't understand or care.
Due process applies to administrative actions, too. And immigration law includes the right to appeal to an Article III court, although that is rarely done.
Their intentional misunderstanding is just them lying.
So you support the executive branch writing law, enforcing law, and adjudicating law, all while making up the rules as they go along.
One more thing to add to the list of things Trump defenders have in common with the leftists they hate. Zero respect for the Constitution and for separation of powers.
Oh wait, that's already there on the list.
Biden was bottom 10 of his law school, and we're talking Syracuse !!! you just look foolish making him a legal genius.
Compared to Trump and his defenders my morning deuce is a legal genius.
So many Ideas™ !
So if the British police read this statement of mine: " Muslim and other Arab/ African immigrants have significantly increased the crime rate in Britain due to their presence." , then I am guilty of a crime and should never be allowed to visit London again without risk of punishment. Got it. Not gonna go there again.
You aren't guilty of a crime because your statement is false. For example, in London, the homicide rate is about half what it was 20 years ago. And about 1/4 what it is in NYC, which has a lower rate than most other US cities.
Homicides are down from a specific spike 20 years ago, which was caused by the 7/7 London bombings in 2005. Which btw was caused by Muslims. Three of the perpetrators were born in the UK from Pakistani parents, one was born in Jamaica.
And the crime rates in London are significantly higher for non-whites:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom#Metropolitan_Police
How do you do, fellow kids... this censorship thing in England is like, the worst, am I right?
"...and malign reporters as enemies of the people,..."
One might look at what the criticisms of those reporters were as far as honesty, professionalism, and lack of disinterest in outcomes. Reporters are not a sacred cow profession who are beyond reproach.
I keep hearing this abuse of Habeus corpus, removal of due process blah blah misinformation being spewed constantly and it has become sickening.
People are so stuck they don't even realize that once the due process is over, there is no additional due process. Someone doesn't just get to stand in court over and over until they get what they want FFS.
People enter illegally. Are given a court date and allowed to remain, are given a work permit. There are conditions. This person commits a felony and is convicted. They had their due process and now can be deported WITHOUT ANOTHER HEARING according to law.
Okay now the same person does not commit any crime, they work and live as they were allowed to. They go to court. The judge denies their claim for asylum or refugee status as happens for over 80% of illegal border crossers. That is the due process owed and given to them. Now they must leave. They are now to be deported. When the do not leave, they run to San Fran or other sanctuary cities or States and try to remain in the country. They can be gathered up and removed without another round of due process. They had it, it's over, they have no more claim they can be removed.
One last example. Same person. Was given a court date and did not show up. They now forfeited their claim and due process and now must leave. They don't get to say I never got my due process because I missed my day in court. There is no more due process given. They must leave.
It might be that 1 person out of every 1000 being deported has a case to which they can remain. And when one person is found the media and folks cry foul and suggest everyone being deported is in the same situation WHICH THEY ARE NOT.
Smarten up folks.
"They had their due process and now can be deported WITHOUT ANOTHER HEARING according to law."
Wrong. The proceedings can be expedited, but not for all felonies, and there are still proceedings.
MAGA almost never understands any law, much less immigration law.
I am giving you the benefit of the doubt in assuming that you are just an ignoramus rather than a liar.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1228
Sorry Charlie but you are misinformed and misreading the law. You had your day in court, the Judge said sorry your claim for asylum or refugee status is denied. That was the due process you were to be provided. That was it. It's over now go home or you will be deported. Oh you don't want to go back to your home country, okay you will be deported to a third party country. Sorry you do not get another hearing, another court date, a lawyer, you need to leave the country, your due process was given and you were denied. Go home.
Regarding felonies. Yes you were convicted and yes you will spend time in prison per the sentencing. If the crime you were convicted of is one of many that is on the list you will be deported. The local authorities are supposed to notify ICE once you have been convicted so they can carry out the deportation proceedings. There is no additional due process. You had it, it's over, you are no longer allowed to remain and will be removed.
These people being allowed to remain in Sanctuary cities and states because the authorities there are illegally not notifying ICE for your removal do not have the power to provide you with additional due processes. They should be charged for breaking federal law for not notifying ICE or removing you.
"Smarten up folks."
Smarten up yourself. This is almost entirely a straw man. No one sane says that the President may not deport illegal aliens. The due process you are so cavalierly dismissing is the due process of making sure that the person you just arrested for deportation IS an illegal alien. There have been quite a large number of mistakes and "oopsies!" perpetrated by government agents during the most recent "War on Immigrants" - cases of mistaken identity, or citizens rounded up in mass arrests or legal visitors who have already been given permission to stay but the message was dropped in the chaos. Anyone who says the government cannot and will never make such mistakes or abuses is an idiot whose opinion can be safely dismissed with prejudice. Due process is necessary to minimize the harm done to innocent people, not to protect the guilty!
Britain is confused, Australia is under major assault and losing ground to China. EU has been whinging for too long and now have one choice, step up and grow a pair or become the same as Russia.
The world needs sensibility to shine and put sensitivity back in it's place. Humans know we must control our emotions, keep them in check. We can't make important decisions with our hearts, we must use our minds.
No one has the right to not be offended. No one has the right to not have to see, hear or feel what they do not like. There is no right to stop someone from being, seeing, saying, doing anything within the law because they don't like it.
Too bad so sad for anyone who does not approve of what someone else is doing as long as they are not breaking the law.
Western governments know this and want to implement laws that gives them the power to decide what someone can do, see, think, feel and say. And that means the west is losing liberty, freedom and individualism and falling for the lies of the collective which has only ever destroyed liberty freedom and individualism.
Smarten up folks. The extreme left, globalists, liberal elites are paying for the division, the confusion, the misinformation, the shaming, the name calling, the attacks on you to stop you from being how you want, who you want, do what you want and say what you think. It is being sewn into our daily lives for the last couple of decades.
Neutral - does this mean you are not aware of the constant pressure from the conservative right to establish an American religion and culture that anyone who comes here must convert to, along with the citizens already here? That they want to ban people who might tend to vote for socialism or ban their advocacy for it? The Constitution we were handed by the Framers and the Founders, if strictly interpreted and enforced, would have prevented the slow erosion of liberty by the socialists, but it has also prevented the slow erosion of liberty by religious zealots and cultural purists.
actually you have that backwards !!! Very funny
Lincoln said
. As the patriots of seventy-six did to the support of the Declaration of Independence, so to the support of the Constitution and Laws, let every American pledge his life, his property, and his sacred honor;--let every man remember that to violate the law, is to trample on the blood of his father, and to tear the character of his own, and his children's liberty. Let reverence for the laws, be breathed by every American mother, to the lisping babe, that prattles on her lap--let it be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges; let it be written in Primers, spelling books, and in Almanacs;--let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice. And, in short, let it become the political religion of the nation
I know you don't believe me but he said 'Political Religion" I love pointing out how lazy you are
"I know the American People are much attached to their Government; I know they would suffer much for its sake; I know they would endure evils long and patiently, before they would ever think of exchanging it for another. Yet, notwithstanding all this, if the laws be continually despised and disregarded, if their rights to be secure in their persons and property, are held by no better tenure than the caprice of a mob, the alienation of their affections from the Government is the natural consequence; and to that, sooner or later, it must come."
I have no idea why you think what you posted from the "Lyceum" speech refutes my position, but the above is from the same speech.
"We don't need to revisit the Constitution, but to uphold the protections already within it."
I'm not clear here, Greenhut. Which Constitution does this refer to? The one we had after the Bill of Rights was passed? Or the one we have now after seventeen amendments were ratified and one amendment was repealed?
Wow another egregious lack of knowledge. ALL the Bill of Rights -- And I mean ALL -- came from the pre-existing 20 State constitutions. Donald S Lutz is credited with the scrupulous documenting of that fact.
Your disputant did use the word 'protections' and you just went right past it.
Not sure what you think I went right past, but my reference was to the discrepancy between the original Constitution and the many revisitations already made over the centuries since then. Although I am highly skeptical that any new Amendment for this worthy purpose would be beneficial and not turned into a circus, the Constitution has been revisited a number of times, so it's a fair question! Or maybe you're just auto-attacking me for ad hominem emotional reasons ...
There is not one right/protection that is not most fully filled out by the State predecessors
All 50 states have adopted constitutions that explicitly shield freedom of speech and the press. 8. See App’x A, State Constitutional Free Expression Provisions.And nearly all of them contain language that is substantially different from the language of the First Amendment. 9. The two exceptions are Hawaii and South Carolina. See Haw. Const. art. I, § 4; S.C. Const. art. I, § 2.These state constitutions contain 50 separate speech and press provisions, each with different drafting processes and different histories of judicial interpretation. 10. See App’x A, State Constitutional Free Expression Provisions.Moreover, state constitutions contain myriad additional constitutional provisions—many without federal analogs—that both privilege and protect the press.
Oh? The retards at Reason have figured this out have they? Congratulations.
"Their speech codes are intended to battle disinformation/misinformation, "
No they were intended to battle data that was inconvenient to the government, whether it be information or "disinformation".
"The authorities may quash such speech to 'protect national security, territorial integrity (the borders of the state) or public safety,' "
So I guess campaigning for a secession movements isn't protected?
" or 'prevent disorder or crime,' or 'protect health or morals,' "
Have they defined what morality is? Because if they have that would be really helpful to the rest of us.
" or 'maintain the authority and impartiality of judges.' "
Wow that can't be abused at all.
" One may not express 'views that encourage racial or religious hatred.' "
Race I can understand but religious hatred is a legitimate opinion. If someone is advancing a religion that violates morality in your opinion how can you not hate it? Is it not OK to hate the sex cults that recruit with children? Or the polygynous Mormon offshoots that force girls to marry old men? If we can hate those cults why can't we hate more "legitimate" religions? Have some of them not given cause?
Those are open-ended terms, which has led to bizarre prosecutions.
"and malign reporters as enemies of the people,"
Conservatives have as much right to "malign" reporters as reporters have to malign conservatives. And more reason.
"Without the first 10—"
The first 10 WHAT?
Visitors to Canada and Europe would do well to remember that there is no right to free speech anywhere in those countries before they open their big fat tourist mouths. I'm still waiting for the first criminal charges in the United Kingdom from American free speech online. I wonder if you can be extradited from the United States to the UK to face charges?
UK will be a failed state in 20 years.