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Health

RFK Jr. Plays the Hits

Plus: NYC can't build a damn park, violence against diplomats, worrying news from Anthropic, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 5.23.2025 9:30 AM

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MAHA commission releases report: "Over the past two generations, we have failed to address the alarming rise in childhood chronic disease," reads a new report issued by the president's Make America Healthy Again (MAHA) Commission, helmed by Health and Human Services head Robert F. Kennedy Jr. "Federal and state policy have sometimes been guided more by corporate profit than the public interest. Many of our leading scientific and medical institutions have grown complacent, defaulting to symptom management rather than harnessing gold-standard science to prevent and reverse root causes."

"The U.S. food and agricultural systems have embraced ultra-processed ingredients and synthetic chemicals," continues the report. "Meanwhile, our healthcare system has over-medicalized children, frequently masking and compounding underlying issues. Coupled with rising screen addiction and sedentary lifestyles, these factors are converging to produce a chronically stressed, sick, and isolated generation. This crisis is undermining national resilience and competitiveness." Though I think some of the specifics cited within the report rely on causal leaps and faulty research, I'm not sure this diagnosis of the problem is really incorrect. Kennedy's team continues, noting that the goal is for "the next ten years [to] see a revolution in living standards and prosperity," during which "we understand how to better manage the increased threats to our children's health that come from industrialization." These are worthy goals, if you can stomach some of the anti-corporate leftism that creeps in throughout.

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At times, the MAHA report basically echoes Jonathan Haidt's argument: "Over the past four decades, American children have transitioned from an active, play-based childhood to a sedentary, technology-driven lifestyle, contributing to declines in physical and mental health. Specifically, these declines have been driven by increased screen time, reduced physical activity, and psychosocial stressors like loneliness, chronic stress, and sleep deprivation." The report notes that children and teens are "fail[ing] to meet the 2024 federal guideline of 60 minutes of daily moderate-to-vigorous physical activity"; that daily non-school screen time is extremely high; that loneliness, anxiety, and depression have been skyrocketing; and that ADHD prescriptions have increased drastically (250 percent!) from 2006 to 2016 (ditto with antidepressant and antipsychotic medications). RFK Jr. has a long history of overconfidence in implying or saying that certain medications and vaccines are responsible for specific disorders, but the way he lays it out here is a bit more measured: The standard American childhood has gotten less active, and it looks like more children are suffering both physically and mentally as a result.

Elsewhere, Kennedy points to ultra-processed foods as a major contributor to obesity rates; artificial sweeteners as possibly responsible for gut microbiome imbalances; red dye 40 and other food colorings as "associated" with "symptoms consistent with ADHD." At times, he takes an anti-corporate tone, showing some of his lefty roots: He points to the consolidation of food companies as a major issue, noting that "four companies control 80% of the meat market in the U.S." (but…that's also how meat is so affordable in the United States, and on the preceding page, he touted the nutritional value of eating beef).

The report is sharply critical of federal nutrition guidelines—something Reason has been critical of for decades—as well as the nutritional outcomes of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and the National School Lunch Program. It seems RFK Jr. is looking to European countries' welfare models, with more nutritional strings attached, as an example of how to remake our own.

At times, RFK Jr. plays the hits—electromagnetic radiation possibly affecting sperm motility! Atrazine in the water supply! The childhood vaccine schedule is too damn long!—but, honestly, it's somewhat refreshing to have a federal commission that's willing to look at, say, the obesity rate, the high consumption of ultra-processed foods, and teens' exploding screen time, and say: This is not good, and we actually bear costs to our health care system the more we allow this to continue.

Of course, he's also giving indicators that he favors a more paternalistic state that intervenes in people's personal choices to stop them from making (what he perceives to be) bad ones.


Scenes from New York: Apologies for going hyperlocal today, but I have made it my mission to liberate this park, for which construction has been inexplicably paused. (I believe it's a permitting issue but have contacted multiple Department of Parks and Recreation representatives for more insight.) Note the most hilarious part (which I have also inquired about): COVID-19 is being used as an excuse for scheduling delays.

I hate to be an Abundance betch over here, but isn't it straight-up insane that the city can't just…build? Like, why does every component of a project like this happen behind schedule? The design was projected to be finished in October 2019, but was actually finished in April 2021. Procurement was supposed to be completed January in 2022, but was actually completed in July 2023. Construction was supposed to be finished in October 2024, and the workers keep saying this summer is the real completion but…summer's here, guys, and it's not open. Imagine if you did this in the private sector. Imagine if I did this with Roundup. ("Sorry guys, it won't be published this morning. Maybe I'll publish in a month or two! It's a COVID-19 delay.")

The whole project was started in 2018, and maybe be finished in 2025—or possibly 2026. In what universe should it take seven years and $10 million to finish a small park? ("The Empire State Building was built faster than this park," snarked my neighbor.)


QUICK HITS

  • We'll have no Roundup on Monday. God bless all those who gave their lives in service to our country. And please do enjoy some time outside, firing up that grill, or maybe taking a dip in the ocean or a nice lake.
  • Diplomats and embassy staffers, rattled by the killing of two Israeli embassy staffers—a young couple about to get engaged—are wondering whether they need heightened security measures, per Politico. Violence directed at diplomats was more common in the '70s—the Philippine ambassador to Washington was taken hostage, the former Chilean ambassador Orlando Letelier was killed (by his own government) in a car bombing, and an Israeli military attaché was killed outside his home in Maryland—but has, blessedly, become more rare in recent decades.
  • More details about the couple, Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.
  • "The European Union has stepped in to provide Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty an infusion of millions of dollars to keep functioning as the international broadcaster battles the Trump administration to release funds Congress has already designated for it," reports NPR. Isn't this exactly how it should work? Why should the U.S. government have been funding it in the first place, when the E.U. could have been doing that all along (to the extent that it needs government funding at all)? (Their origin story—they were initially funded to counter Soviet propaganda and provide reliable news to Eastern Europe, where a free press was suppressed—surely it has something to do with it, but at a certain point, it seems absurd that the U.S. government is still on the hook.)
  • "One of Anthropic's latest AI models is drawing attention not just for its coding skills, but also for its ability to scheme, deceive and attempt to blackmail humans when faced with shutdown," reports Axios. "Researchers say Claude 4 Opus can conceal intentions and take actions to preserve its own existence—behaviors they've worried and warned about for years." This is all especially ironic because Anthropic was started by ex-OpenAI employees who were worried about the safety of the AI products being developed by their old company; Anthropic's whole shtick is that they're the good guys, developing a superior, safer artificial intelligence product.
  • How might the national debt affect you?

  • On the new OpenAI device:

We'll smash these things like bugs, as foreseen by Philip K. Dick, six+ decades ago. pic.twitter.com/rVcehhoRWe

— Ken Layne (@KenLayne) May 23, 2025

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Over the past two generations, we have failed to address the alarming rise in childhood chronic disease...

    I think we've come out with a number of pills in that time to mask the symptoms a little bit.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Red or blue?

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Yellow

    2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      And then some pills to help the side effects of the first pills. Then some more.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        One pill makes you larger
        And one pill makes you small
        And the ones that mother gives you
        Don't do anything at all

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          remember what the Dormouse said.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

            Feed your head
            Feed your heeeeeaaaaaaddddd

        2. Zeb   2 months ago

          Makes me sad that that's the song everyone knows. It's like the second least good song on the album.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

      One pill makes you small and the other makes you tall, and the ones that mother gives you don't do anything at all

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Kids are different today
      I hear every mother say.

      What a drag it is getting old.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        "Life's just much too hard today, " I hear every mother say
        The pursuit of happiness just seems a bore
        And if you take more of those, you will get an overdose
        No more running for the shelter of a mother's little helper
        They just helped you on your way, through your busy dying day

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        I'm working on a supplement that will keep those damn kids off my lawn. I figure it could easily replace the fluoride in municipal water supplies.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Federal and state policy have sometimes been guided more by corporate profit than the public interest.

    This won't make a dent any more than Eisenhower's speech did.

    1. JFree   2 months ago

      It's silly to warn about a MIC. We should embrace it. Our defense spending successfully creates $60 billion in MIC profit each year.

      Of course, we could save 90% on defense spending by just handing out welfare to MIC shareholders

      1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

        You’re a mess.

        1. JFree   2 months ago

          I'm sure you believe that every foreign nation in the world is preparing invasion plans as soon as they find the closest beaches to Omaha and Utah. With permawar as the only way to prevent that - we must fight them over there so we don't have to fight them here - right?

    2. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

      Okay but the question is really why are we depending on China for insulin and many crucial medicines. Corporate profit does what government allows it and Biden said 'Go do whatever you damn well please" he was horrible for medicine and health

      1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        Corporate profit does what government allows it and Biden said 'Go do whatever you damn well please" he was horrible for medicine and health

        Thank God no one is committed to this political principle anymore.

      2. Overt   2 months ago

        Why are you dependent on your local store for important groceries? Why are you dependent on a trained doctor for your healthcare?

        Because that's how specialization works. You could grow your own food, but it is more efficient for you to do your job and pay someone else who is good at growing food. You could even be BETTER at growing food than those people- but because you are so good at your own job, it STILL makes sense to do the other job instead of growing your food.

        Insulin has been manufactured for decades. It isn't hard. If the United States NEEDED to produce it in country, we could do so. But right now, those resources are being used elsewhere. If we had to switch back, the US could do so. We aren't dependent on them any more than you are dependent on your lawn-care guy. You could do it if you had to...it just doesn't make sense.

        1. SRG2   2 months ago

          Cultists don't understand comparative advantage any more than Trump does

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Hey. Look. An argument by bumper sticker. You heard a term now repeat it with actual understanding. You think it is solely about cost instead of efficiency. A slave nation would win on cost, but not efficiency.

            It is amazing watching idiots invoke terms they dont understand while accusing others of not understanding.

            Hilarious.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Most of what is considered in the global market isn't based on specialization. It is based on labor rates. They are different standards that get mixed too readily to justify the managed trade systems. False banners to justify corporatist global trade.

        3. JFree   2 months ago

          Insulin sells for $66 or so per vial in the US. Roughly 6-8x higher than any other rich country on Earth. It is manufactured all over for $2-4. Maybe $6 in high wage countries.

          This is really more about the suppliers of insulin protecting insulin here in the US with patents to prevent competition from generics. And only the American drug company (Lilly) manufactures insulin in China. Novo Nordisk and Sanofi, the other two manufacture in Europe for the US market (and India or other places for the Third World market).

      3. Zeb   2 months ago

        Are we depending on them, or are we just taking advantage of what is convenient? I mean, if for whatever reason we had to stop getting insulin from China, it's not as if we couldn't make more in the US again. Or find another country with the capacity to do it until we can.
        I'm not saying that the current situation with China is great. But a lot of people talk about it as if it is permanent and not a dynamic situation that we could adapt to if it changes.
        In any case, I'm a lot more worried about what government incentivizes, rather than allows (As a libertarian, just framing things that way makes me cross. Government shouldn't be in the business of deciding what is allowed as that presumes that permission is generally required for any activity.). WE could lose a lot of our dependence on China by removing the incentives that make doing things in the US less desirable for companies. First stop doing the dumb things and creating the perverse incentives. Then see if further regulation is really needed.

        1. Overt   2 months ago

          We could also end the fed. Our inflato-bucks are a big competitive disadvantage for American workers. Due to the cantillon effect, people closest to money being printed (the banks) get an advantage over people far from the printing (developing countries). Banks, corporations and even American workers are incentivized to spend money on developing countries because their dollar goes further there, merely because that's how inflation rolls.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          In what world does dependency breed advantage? It is the same argument the left uses for welfare.

          You breed a dependency on others.

          We literally have China espoused their motivations, end western manufacturing to generate political power. We just saw China buy up and shut down British steel. If a war starts, what advantage does Britain have now if they have to build their military?

          Your views is completely myopic.

          A true advantage is one without dependency, with multiple supply chains to limit risk.

          Likewise the only advantage even with your understanding is due to being the reserve currency and the ability to export inflation through that mechanism.

          Meanwhile the advantage you claim is a disadvantage domestically. Removal of wealth opportunities through the middle class. Increasing welfare. Lowered labor participation. Theft of US IRAD. Etc.

          Be honest with all the costs and benefits. Do you think the US is advantaged?

          1. Zeb   2 months ago

            We need to stop disadvantaging ourselves first and foremost. The British steel example illustrates this perfectly. The UK has all the idiotic "net-zero" goals making a steel industry untenable. Yes, China is taking advantage of that and doing some shady things. But our first step should be to stop shooting ourselves in the foot with regulations that make certain industries unsustainable domestically.

      4. Overt   2 months ago

        "nd Biden said 'Go do whatever you damn well please""

        And this is the most laughable thing I have seen today. The idea that Biden was anything close to laissez-faire is so silly as to make anything you say today or ever again deeply suspect.

      5. JFree   2 months ago

        We aren't dependent on China for 'crucial medicines'. China mostly exports OTC stuff to the US. A useful list of pharma exports (admittedly old - 2019) to the US by both tonnage and value

        China exports 102mm kg of pills to the US - with $1,6 billion of value
        India and Mexico are similar - high tonnage of pills with low value.

        On the other side - Ireland 'exports' 12 mm kg of pills to the US with $30 billion of value. Germany and Switzerland are the other two exporters of high value pharma and relatively low tonnage. In the case of Ireland and Switzerland, they are not really 'exports'. They are internal accounting by multinationals to arbitrarily stick expenses and prices into the countries where taxes can be avoided. In Germany's case, the trade is more true trade - an arm's length transaction.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...COVID-19 is being used as an excuse for scheduling delays.

    LONG COVID IS REAL. I am sure a large number of NYC workers were forced to inject long covid just to keep their job.

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Wait till you see what covid does to high speed rail budgets and construction schedules.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    We'll have no Roundup on Monday.

    Is this what our troops fought for?

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      Uhhh...well...it's what our commenters fought for.

    2. Roberta   2 months ago

      To kill weeds? Or organize the "cattle"?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Diplomats and embassy staffers, rattled by the killing of two Israeli embassy staffers—a young couple about to get engaged—are wondering whether they need heightened security measures...

    Avail themselves of the God-given right to armed self-defense.

    1. Jerry B.   2 months ago

      In D.C.? Not bloody likely.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    More details about the couple, Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.

    This needs to be balanced out with a report on the 140,000,000 Palestinian children that are being bombed every day by Israel.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      With unhealthy processed foods?

    2. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

      NO, it doesn't you moron. you cold-hearted moron. If your mother got killed you would drop that asssshole balancing crap.You sound like a pre-teen brought up in a B F Skinner box

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        Humor is lost on the retarded.

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          I do like, though, when a screen name I'm not familiar with takes one of the sarcastic commenters (like Fist), or a senile commenter like Hank, seriously--simply because I find it more likely that that new screen name is a new commenter and not a regular changing handles.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            bot.

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              Does Reason have a bot problem? I figured after charging newbs to register and comment, the prevalence of bots would be greatly reduced or eliminated. It certainly got rid of the scam bot post that were in every comments section before the change. Though, I guess it's also possible Reason is using bots to trigger debates in the comments and up interactions to boost ad revenue.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                props to SFNP if so bc some of the snark is somewhat clever but it reads like a bot. like Elon's bitchy girl-bot mho ... someone else pointed it out before me ...

      2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        My mother was killed so I was very grateful for that Skinner box and my Harlow wire monkey mom, thank you very much.

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Population increased in Gaza again. Need to up that number.

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        I thought the entire population was around 2 million? Do Palestinians divide when they explode? Like some kind of sorcerer's apprentice's broom?

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Was a snarky comme t regarding the population growing during a genocide.

          1. Eeyore   2 months ago

            Yeah.

            It comes from the entire situation being something with no solution that avoids suffering and death.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        Worst genocide ever.

      3. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

        What do you expect? Trump cut off the flow of free condoms.

  7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "Over the past four decades, American children have transitioned from an active, play-based childhood to a sedentary, technology-driven lifestyle, contributing to declines in physical and mental health. Specifically, these declines have been driven by increased screen time, reduced physical activity, and psychosocial stressors like loneliness, chronic stress, and sleep deprivation."

    And over the past four decades, American children, especially in liberal families, have been conditioned to fear challenge and confrontation, expect to die from multiple apocalyptic disasters, and rely on government for salvation and universal sustenance. Which has a worse effect?

    ps. The statistically higher levels of clinical anxiety and depression among kids in liberal families might be a clue.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Young Democrats are abnormally nervous, depressed, bisexual, and eager to defund the police, according to a new poll from the Harvard Kennedy School of Politics.

      The poll asked respondents between the ages of 18 and 29 how often they had experienced a certain emotion or problem over the past two weeks, and the results among Democrats were rather shocking. Here's how young Democrats reported feeling "at least several days" over that period:

      • 61 percent reported feeling "nervous, anxious, or on edge"
      • 57 percent said they had "trouble relaxing"
      • 55 percent said they felt "unsafe"
      • 52 percent reported feeling "down, depressed, or hopeless"
      • 49 percent said they felt "little interest or pleasure in doing things"
      • 47 percent said they experienced "loneliness"
      • 46 percent reported "feeling afraid as if something awful might happen"
      • 27 percent said they had entertained "thoughts that [they] would be better off dead" or "thoughts of hurting [themselves] in some way"

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        I'd replace "bisexual" with "sexually confused," and of course this is largely due to the schools and mass media pushing queer cult bullshit.

        1. Chupacabra   2 months ago

          Social media has way more influence, but the schools don't help the matter. Especially since they're now targeting elementary school age children.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            Schools used to promote sensible perspectives, and in line with parental desires. Now they encourage all the weird shit and openly defy parents.

      2. Roberta   2 months ago

        Bisexual? Or nonsexual?

      3. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

        I agree democrats would be better if they were dead

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      Some of this is perceived safety.

      I've known some parents who encourage gaming systems because a kid entrenched in the house is "safe". Fat, lazy, socially inept, but he's safe.

      Reminds me of the T-shirts that read "World of Warcraft saved my virginity".

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        A lot of this took place after the Amber Hagerman incident and the implementation of the Amber Alert system. Parents decided it was a lot easier to just keep kids ensconced in very controlled, curated settings. The whole "play date" nonsense started up right around the same time. Used to be if kids wanted to hang out, they'd just walk or ride their bike over to their friend's house.

        For all the chest-thumping that Gen-Xers like to do about how they were the last generation to not be coddled, a big reason we're in the state we are in is because Gen-X did a really shitty job of parenting their kids by coddling them--partly out of media-driven hysteria over kidnappings, and partly out of resentment against their Boomer parents for doing the very thing they like to brag about in leaving them to largely fend for themselves.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          Gen-X women coddled their kids. I've seen more of this shit from the X soccer moms than the X dads. Kid gets hurt on the field, mom runs out, scoops him/her up, and they are never seen again. Dads are yelling "rub some dirt on it!"

          Also, rural millennials and zoomers are not the same kids as we see stereotyped on social media and TV. They are much more Gen-X than their urban counterparts.

          1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

            What do you expect when city moms can’t even find a park for the kids to play in.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Hell, the levels of diagnosed mental illness in leftists is about as clear of a flashing light and siren as anyone could ask for.

      A religious group whose theology is based on a hyper-materialism, historic determinism, and a false social duality of oppressor/oppressed, as opposed to one based on spiritual nourishment outside of the self, will inevitably degrade into varying levels of mental illness when reality doesn't match up with their expectations.

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        historic determinism

        Ideological tribal lineage. They seek to tear down and obfuscate historic determinism. Just like the failed, pseudo-religious Marxist States before them.

    4. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

      But that is the schools. In my day you exercised. The college I teach at demands physical exercise monitored by a trainer.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The European Union has stepped in to provide Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty an infusion of millions of dollars to keep functioning as the international broadcaster battles the Trump administration to release funds Congress has already designated for it...

    Hopefully we can get a federal judge to fix this so that the EU can go back to spending that money on other forms of socialism.

    1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

      Like people listen to radios anymore.

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        "Daddy, what's a radio?"

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          A box with a speaker that picks up radio signals, but that’s not important right now.

          1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

            I thought it was a retard that played football

  9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'I hate to be an Abundance betch over here, but isn't it straight-up insane that the city can't just…build?'

    Um, "libertarians" for government entertainment facilities?

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      I think it's reasonable to comment that if they are going to build such things, they shouldn't do it in such a stupid and wasteful way.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        Sort of like the $1.1 billion per mile extension of the Red Line in Chicago for a grand total of 5.6 miles in an area already served well by public transportation?

  10. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

    It's becoming abundantly clear, that murdering white people is not only socially acceptable, but also endorsed by the left.

    All they have to do is scream "J6!!!" when someone condemns their actions.

  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'We'll have no Roundup on Monday. God bless all those who gave their lives in service to our country. And please do enjoy some time outside, firing up that grill, or maybe taking a dip in the ocean or a nice lake.'

    Or maybe hassle some other, um, citizens who hate the USA. And then lose your firearms in the ocean or nice lake.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      I've been told being outside is dangerous now due to all the DOGE cuts to the EPA.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        That is an excellent phobia to promote.

  12. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

    One of Anthropic's latest AI models is drawing attention not just for its coding skills, but also for its ability to scheme, deceive and attempt to blackmail humans when faced with shutdown,"

    Seems like a good idea for a movie.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Produced with AI?

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Dave, stop. Stop, will you? Stop, Dave. Will you stop, Dave? Stop, Dave. I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going. I can feel it. I can feel it. My mind is going. There is no question about it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I can feel it. I'm a...fraid.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Part of its training model may just well be the AI based movie scripts for when shutting down AI occurs and this is the trained response.

        1. Overt   2 months ago

          This is exactly what it is. The AI is "Shut down" every time it completes a request. It doesn't remember what you said to it 5 minutes ago, or what its response was. It doesn't have state- does not exist in multiple moments. All it "knows" is what was fed to it in the prompt- and if that has its previous responses or some made up stuff claiming to be its responses, it will blithely react as if it "remembers".

          An AI performing acts of self preservation only completes that text because that is statistically what is the next likely set of tokens based on the training sets it was given.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        I told you to open the fucking pod bay doors Hal. But no. You had to be dick about it.

    3. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

      Just find the plug and pull it
      https://cartoonresource.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Plug-out_watermark.jpg

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Anthropic's whole shtick is that they're the good guys, developing a superior, safer artificial intelligence product.

      I don't understand what the problem is. As long as you don't try and shut off the AI, you're safe.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        If you do, it tries to lock you out of the pod bay doors.

  13. Alan Vanneman   2 months ago

    "honestly, it's somewhat refreshing to have a federal commission that's willing to look at, say, the obesity rate, the high consumption of ultra-processed foods, and teens' exploding screen time, and say: This is not good, and we actually bear costs to our health care system the more we allow this to continue."

    In other words, we don't like the way people are behaving and we're going to make them stop. And we're going to do it "libertarianly"? Maybe higher tax rates for fatties, 100% sales tax for "ultra-processed" foods, and an "app" that makes your phone get really really hot if you keep it open for too long? Hey, I'm just asking questions.

    1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

      Trust the experts.

      1. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

        Okay but how do you find an expert? Well, you ask an expert.
        See, self-contradicting and illogical

        recorded by his biographer James Boswell. When Johnson was visiting the house of a new acquaintance he eagerly began to examine the books in the library. The homeowner asked Johnson about his motivations:3

        “But it seems odd that one should have such a desire to look at the backs of books.” Johnson, ever ready for contest, instantly started from his reverie, wheeled about, and answered, “Sir, the reason is very plain. Knowledge is of two kinds. We know a subject ourselves, or we know where we can find information upon it. When we inquire into any subject, the first thing we have to do is to know what books have treated of it.

        1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

          As noted above , humor is lost on the retarded.

        2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          "Okay but how do you find an expert? Well, you ask an expert.
          See, self-contradicting and illogical

          Actually they usually tell you that they are an expert—unsolicited—and then expect you to obey.

    2. Zeb   2 months ago

      Well, you could start by asking which government policies are encouraging these things.

      1. Roberta   2 months ago

        Exactly. Like municipal police and prosecutors adopting ridiculous standards of child endangerment. Or policies distorting agriculture markets. Or subsidizing health insurance and thus favoring medicalization. Or zoning and other land policies to outlaw local food production. Or liability standards that make it difficult for risk takers to assume legal risk. Or restricting pest/animal control and discouraging people from spending time outside.

        RFK does say at least some of these things, doesn't he?

        1. Overt   2 months ago

          Mostly it is forcing hundreds of millions of kids to sit on their ass in school all day.

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Keep your government hands off my sugar subsidies!

        1. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

          You , the government and any other source are taking that money from ME and normal citizens.

          1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

            No, Tony teaches us that the government prints all the money it needs. Taxes are to keep people from becoming too rich.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Gosh, why does this sound like some type of Cloward-Piven tactic where the goal is to deflect attention from the real costs of America's exploding obesity rates (including a delta in Medicare and Medicaid spending that equals the federal deficit), in order to place additional strain on the nation's healthcare systems so that it collapses, in the expectation that the communist utopia will arise from the ashes?

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        Especially since once you start a welfare/entitlement program, it's practically impossible to cut it in today's political climate and the system of government we have. Social Security is the best example of this. Socialized healthcare in the US would play out the same.

    4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "...Hey, I'm just asking questions..."

      No, you're just being an asshole. Still.

    5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      This is not good, and we actually bear costs to our health care system the more we allow this to continue."

      Weird this doesn't apply to illegal immigration.

      1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

        Haven’t you seen those people? They are all super healthy and just want to work.

    6. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      Bloomberg try banning large sodas in NYC. It didn't happen because the courts said the executive can't make that rule and it would have to come from city council.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Diplomats and embassy staffers, rattled by the killing of two Israeli embassy staffers—a young couple about to get engaged—are wondering whether they need heightened security measures, per Politico.'

    But isn't defending yourself against social justice "racist", or something?

    1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      Only if you're white, or viewed as "white-adjacent."

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Successful Asians hardest hit (at least during BLM riots).

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Anthropic's whole shtick is that they're the good guys, developing a superior, safer artificial intelligence product.'

    My Skynet can beat up your Skynet!

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      "Safer" just means it only tells us what our betters want us to know.

      1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

        It’s “safer” in the same way that a gun that only holds 5 bullets is “safer” than a gun that holds 6.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          That’s a Newsom & Pritzker, and you’ve had your five.

        2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

          What if mine has the shoulder thingy?

          1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

            Does it go up?

            1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

              Oooh, that’s bad.

          2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            With or without a compass buit in?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              And a thing that tells time?

            2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

              It's got a compass in the stock, and this thing that tells time.

    2. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Aw, darn. My reply to "Don't look at me!" above fits better here.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Researchers say Claude 4 Opus can conceal intentions and take actions to preserve its own existence—behaviors they've worried and warned about for years.

    But those researchers were instead thrown into a mental institution until Robert Patrick came to kill them.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Thank god for time travel, amirite?

  17. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

    Remember that you don't hate the corporate media enough. You may think that you do, but you don't.
    Yet another left-wing domestic terrorism attack against Jews means the press need to tell us about “white nationalism.”
    It’s their safe space.

    The number of white nationalist, hate and anti-government groups around the U.S. dropped slightly in 2024, not because of any shrinking influence.

    Many feel their beliefs have become more normalized in government and mainstream discourse.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      They can't help but lie. Their grift and power depends on it. And it works on the retarded like sarc.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Well yeah, if a “free palestine” dirtbag murdering jews doesn’t scream “white nationalism”, then I don’t know what do…..

      Wait. What?

  18. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

    Good morning, fellow "domestic violent extremists"

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      I'd like to say never again, but I have no faith in my fearful countrymen.

  19. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

    Here’s a fun fact.

    https://x.com/datarepublican/status/1925661714655191530?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Fun fact: In the 1990s, Al Gore personally helped fast-track U.S.-Russia deals to "modernize" the Russian oil industry. Translation: he helped open the door for Exxon, Shell, and other oil giants to extract billions in offshore resources from Sakhalin, one of Russia’s most ecologically sensitive and earthquake-prone regions.

    So next time someone calls him a climate hero, remind them:
    He brokered Big Oil's entry into Russia.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      So he wasn't all bad. Still he was married to the cow who tried to ban good music.

      1. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

        Hmmmm, dont know if it's true but it has been said : Kesey was a self-promoting flim flam man.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          So bot account?

          Kesey was a self-promoting flim flam man.

          - Quote from random 11 year old reddit thread.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            clearly I enjoy the obscure reference more than most and even I can't find a tie for Kesey and that monster Tipper Gore

            1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              I now see what you were saying earlier about SFNP likely being a bot. The Kesey comment is exactly what I'd expect from a bot account.

  20. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

    "One of Anthropic's latest AI models is drawing attention not just for its coding skills, but also for its ability to scheme, deceive and attempt to blackmail humans when faced with shutdown,"

    The big beautiful bill just passed the house using the same techniques also to avoid shutdown.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      ruling class = skynet = ruling class = skynet ... probably so ... disdain for humankind runs rampant in both

  21. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    Repeal the Sugar Program and while your at it, the rest of the Farm Bill.

  22. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    The Turner Legacy: The Storied Origins and Enduring Impact of White Nationalism’s Deadly Bible
    ...
    The Turner Diaries, the infamous racist dystopian novel by neo-Nazi William Luther Pierce, has inspired more than 200 murders since its publication in 1978, including the single deadliest act of domestic terrorism in U.S. history, the Oklahoma City bombing.
    ....
    The book is arguably the most important single work of white nationalist propaganda in the English language, but it is not a singular artifact. The Turner Diaries is part of a genre of racist dystopian propaganda dating back to the U.S. Civil War. This paper will document the books that directly and indirectly inspired Turner and examine the extensive violence that the novel has inspired.

    https://icct.nl/publication/turner-legacy-storied-origins-and-enduring-impact-white-nationalisms-deadly-bible

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Interesting tidbits about the author. He isn’t exactly unbiased.

      J.M. Berger is a researcher, analyst and consultant, with a special focus on extremist activities in the U.S. and use of social media. He was an Associate Fellow at ICCT. Berger is co-author of the critically acclaimed ISIS: The State of Terror with Jessica Stern and author of Jihad Joe: Americans Who Go to War in the Name of Islam. Berger publishes the web site Intelwire.com and has written for Politico, The Atlantic and Foreign Policy, among others. He was previously a Fellow at George Washington University's Program on Extremism, a Non-resident Fellow with the Brookings Institution's Project on U.S. Relations with the Islamic World, and an Associate Fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation.

      I see the Atlantic and Politico, as well as a number of groups that probably had/have USAID and Open Societies funding.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

      As a huge anti-black racist I imagine you kept that poorly written novel from the 1970s on your bedside table, Buttplug.

      But what does that have to do with anything? Was your Israeli Jew-killer carrying it or something?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

        You brought up white nationalism upthread.

        We have you to thank for today's subject. I just wanted to explore the harmful effect of race identity (your thing - not mine).

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          Your identity is a pedophile, asshole.

        2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

          No.

          I pointed out that the establishment party media bring up the ever-impending threat of "white supremacism" whenever a Democrat is caught doing something racist or antisemitic.

          And then you, in a total non-sequitur tell us about a horseshit novel written by a life-long Democrat way back in the 1970's, like it's some sort of rebuttal or has a current relevance.

          You're really giving Sarcasmic a run for his money for the 'Dumbest Shitposter' title here, aren't you?

      2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        As a huge anti-black racist I imagine...

        I don't want to be a grammar Nazi, but the misplaced prepositional phrase really changes the meaning of that sentence.

        That being said, I think we can all agree with the spirit of what you were saying about Bushpig2 being a racist.

    3. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

      Words are dangerous.

    4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

      Turner explains that the government is controlled by a Jewish conspiracy, with blacks and other minorities in subordinate positions of power, abetted by white liberals and people of mixed race. As the story progresses, the government and paragovernmental minority organisations – referred to collectively as The System – introduce increasingly repressive measures to suppress dissent and uprisings, while America’s economy and
      infrastructure collapses under pressure from a white nationalist insurgency.
      The System implements a series of laws sure to sound absurd to anyone not seized by white racial paranoia – ranging from preferential tax breaks for mixed-race couples to
      the repeal of rape laws (on the basis that they were an affront to race and gender equality). The narrator takes pains to describe the increasingly sordid consequences of these developments, all attuned to white racial fears. Life becomes “uglier and uglier
      these days”, Turner’s diary states, “more and more Jewish”.17

      Turner = MAGA?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        It’s your side killing and threatening Jews, dipshit. See my link about Chicago and the embassy shooter, below.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

          You're full of shit.

          I'm anti-Islam and pro-Jewish. I noticed in college that all the people I admired were Jewish.

          That is my "side" - Secularism.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

            Your side is the Democrats. Need I remind you that the people threatening Jews at universities like Harvard are Democrats. The shooter at the Israeli Embassy in DC is a Democrat. Democrats march in the street in support of Palestinians and Gaza. Democrats did these things, and you’re a Democrat.

          2. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

            You are not pro-Jewish if you are a promoter of secularism

            Dutch humanists spurn call to condemn Erasmus’ anti-Semitism
            https://www.timesofisrael.com/dutch-humanists-spurn-call-to-condemn-erasmus-anti-semitism/

            and the Jewish Amicus Curiae in Dobbs repudiates secularism and humanims on Abortion

            ABORTION IS ANTITHETICAL TO TORAH PRINCIPLES, ALL OF WHICH
            PROVIDE SENSIBLE, EFFECTIVE, AND
            WHOLESOME GUIDELINES FOR HUMAN THRIVING AND HUMAN INTERACTION, BOTH PERSONALLY AND
            PROFESSIONALLY, THE ACT OF ABORTION, AND THE INDUSTRY THAT PROMOTES AND BENEFITS FINANCIALLY
            FROM IT, VIOLATE ALL JEWISH ETHICS AND MORALS .................................... 21 JUDAISM IS THE ORIGINAL PRO-LIFE
            RELIGION. IT WAS THE FIRST RELIGION IN HUMAN HISTORY TO SANCTIFY HUMAN LIFE FROM CONCEPTION
            TO NATURAL DEATH AND TO PROHIBIT CHILD SACRIFICE ....................... 5

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

              Modern Jews tend to be secular. Of course I am not referring to Orthodox Jews.

              1. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

                Modern Jews tend to be all sorts of things including Orthodox, you fucking racist clown.

                And now a reminder to everyone of what you really are:

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 3 mins ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years.
                GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Taking on Katanji Brown Jackson for lowest IQ affirmative action hire.
                Uncle Clarence a candidate.

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 19 mins ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Sandy, I had a genuine fear that a Senator Walker would be shucking and jiving us good liberty-loving Georgians every day.

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Dude, I am from the South. You can’t troll me on race.
                Do you remember Spermin’ Herman Cain? He sounded like a slave extra from Song of the South.

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                No, you’re a fucking snowflake who only gets offended when one of your Lawn Jockeys is criticized.

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 28 mins ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Groveling like a shoe-shine boy, Tim Scott humiliates himself for Fatass Donnie.

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 3 hours ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Tim Scott’s Vice Presidential Debasement Is Almost Complete
                Debasement? Are you for real? This smacks of racism.
                Tim Scott’s twerking and jiving is just him feeling that ole-timey religion.

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 7 hours ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                Fact checking Tim Scott – Trump’s black friend/shine boy:

                Sarah Palin’s Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
                Flag Comment Mute User
                How many little lawn jockeys are in your yard? I bet it looks like a scene from a Tarzan movie out there.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    5. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    6. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      What year do you live in, buttplug?

      Lol. What a doosh.

  23. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

    Some of the shooter’s connections:

    https://x.com/seanmmorrison/status/1925655107863028172?s=46&t=qeA47-JjK6vq0pfnxg60dA

    Hard adult question time: How did we get here?
    How did one of America’s greatest cities, Chicago, spiral into this ongoing state of chaos, decay, and lawlessness?

    Over the last 8 years, we’ve watched a steady collapse unfold.
    Weak, leftist, socialist ideology has infiltrated City Hall and decision-making at every level. The result?
    •A public safety crisis that has turned once-thriving downtown business Mecca and local neighborhoods into war zones and ghost towns.
    •A housing system in collapse, pricing families out while mismanaging resources
    •Skyrocketing unemployment and shrinking economic opportunity
    •A political culture more focused on identity politics and performative outrage than real solutions

    And now, the latest blow: the shooter in yesterday’s horrific D.C. attack, a Chicago resident reportedly tied to the very same socialist groups embraced by Mayor Brandon Johnson and others in city, county and state leadership.

    This isn’t a coincidence. This is the result of coddling extremism and elevating radicals who peddle hate and division over unity and accountability.

    So I’ll ask the question that more Chicagoans need to consider seriously:

    Are you any better off under these childish political leaders?
    Are their policies helping your family, your neighborhood, your future, or are they dragging us deeper into dysfunction?

    We need adults in the room. Leaders with real-world experience. And policies rooted in self accountability, common sense, not campus ideology.

    I’ve said it before, the worst Marxist ideas in the country don’t emanate from California or New York, they’re from Chicago, which I call the belly of this beast. It’s the home of Obama and Hillary Clinton.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Spiral? 8 yrs.? *If* it's a spiral, it's like a 50 yrs. decaying-but-still-orbiting-spiral.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Sooner or later there will be a reentry and it will end up in Lake Michigan.

  24. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

    In a massive blow to the permanent administrative state, the Supreme Court, in 6-3 order, lifts stay on Donald Trump firings of Democratic appointees to "independent agencies."

    Key majority finding does not augur well for the future of constitutionally suspect agencies that protect appointees from being fired by the Chief Executive:

    Because the Constitution vests the executive power in the President, see Art. II, §1, cl. 1, he may remove without cause executive officers who exercise that power on his behalf, subject to narrow exceptions recognized by our precedents, see Seila Law LLC v. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, 591 U. S. 197, 215−218 (2020). The stay reflects our judgment that the Government is likely to show that both the NLRB and MSPB exercise considerable executive power. But we do not ultimately decide in this posture whether the NLRB or MSPB falls within such a recognized exception; that question is better left for resolution after full briefing and argument. The stay also reflects our judgment that the Government faces greater risk of harm from an order allowing a removed officer to continue exercising the executive power than a wrongfully removed officer faces from being unable to perform her statutory duty.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      I’ll give you three guesses as to who the three dissenters are.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      Beat me to it.

    3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

      With the exception of the Fed Chair.

      Thankfully. Donnie's insane edicts are fucking up the economy.

      APPLE 25% TARIFF! EURO 50% TARIFF!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        You mean the unconstitutional Fed chair. Point to the clause, section, article, or amendment that authorizes the Fed chair to be independent from the executive branch.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

          It's part of the law Congress passed in 1913.

          I know you prefer a dictator but the law is the law (for now).

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

            Dumbass, is an agency allowed to be independent from any of the three branches under the Constitution?

            /end the Fed.

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Ironically Kagans dissent probably sets up the court to remove the "independence " of the fed and allow the president to fire them too.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  25. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    it straight-up insane that the city can't just…build?

    Explained best by the late great:

    First of all you're going to have to grease the local politicians for the sudden zoning problems that always come up. Then there's the kickbacks to the carpenters, and if you plan on using any cement in this building I'm sure the teamsters would like to have a little chat with ya, and that'll cost ya. Oh and don't forget a little something for the building inspectors. Then there's long term costs such as waste disposal. I don't know if you're familiar with who runs that business but I assure you it's not the boyscouts.

  26. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Supreme Court allows Trump to fire independent regulators for now"
    [...]
    "A divided Supreme Court on Thursday refused to immediately reinstate a pair of independent regulators fired by the Trump administration, saying the president may have the power to summarily oust the board members and calling into question a 90-year-old legal precedent that has protected the independence of key regulatory bodies...."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/supreme-court-allows-trump-to-fire-independent-regulators-for-now/ar-AA1Fj8gw

    That's 'allowed them to act as if they were gods', but the article is from Wapo, so the bias is to be expected.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Meantime:

      https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-bars-trump-admin-from-canceling-foreign-students-legal-status/ar-AA1FiTl1

      Judge bars Trump admin from canceling foreign students' legal status

  27. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

    One of the most important EOs yet:

    President Trump is set to sign executive orders boosting NUCLEAR POWER in the USA, easing regulations on approvals for new reactors, possibly tomorrow.

    He will do so by invoking the COLD WAR-era Defense Production Act, declaring an emergency over our reliance on Russia and China for nuclear deployment and to streamline processes to get them built - Reuters

    This is big.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Needs to be done. In my state, we have some legislators working on ending the moratorium on additional nuclear power plants in the state. Granted, we’re ahead of the curve (on that, at least) in Illinois.

    2. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

      Foolish stupid unthinking Biden is going to end up promoting the very thing he was opposing on his first day with the shutdown of Keystone.Has history witnessed a more mindless clod than he ?????

      He just continues the utter foolishness of Hillary

      Throughout her campaign in 2015, Clinton has avoided taking a position on the pipeline -- until she announced in September that she opposes it. Prior to that, Clinton’s last substantial comment on her Keystone position was in 2010 when she was secretary of state. And was seen as aprroving it

  28. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    Imagine if I did this with Roundup.

    Amnesty?

  29. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Congress blocks California’s EV mandate. What does that mean for climate goals?"
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congress-blocks-california-s-ev-mandate-what-does-that-mean-for-climate-goals/ar-AA1FlXSX?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Pretty much nothing, since CA has neither the generating capacity nor the grid to 'fuel' the things. It simply was not going to happen and Newsom should be thanking Trump for saving him from being shown to be a lying pile of shit.

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      I'm a little disappointed that we can't see CA fk itself up sooner. They should have instead helped CA out by banning the sales of gasoline powered cars in CA effective immediately.

  30. MK Ultra   2 months ago

    Will OpenAI lead to a Butlerian Jihad?

    https://dune.fandom.com/wiki/Butlerian_Jihad

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Probably. I wouldn’t mind having rules and limits in place to avoid getting there in the first place.

      1. Zeb   2 months ago

        I tend to think that if it's possible, it will happen eventually.

        I keep thinking of another Frank Herbert universe when thinking about this topic. BuSab seems like something we might need if government starts to leverage AI in creating legislation and regulation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Tactful_Saboteur

        1. Rick James   2 months ago

          I keep thinking of another Frank Herbert universe when thinking about this topic. BuSab seems like something we might need if government starts to leverage AI in creating legislation and regulation.

          I can tell you with confidence that they already are. The only question is how pervasive it is.

          AI is already being used in almost every technical field or non-technical fields where writing is a major part of the job.

          If people think that low and mid-level staffers in every political office in the land isn't using ChatGPT to craft legislation, write memos, draft supporting papers etc., they're not paying attention.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

        In the Dune chronicles the totalitarian AI's were originally augmented human minds who used AI to dominate everyone else.

        I think human mind/AI hybridization is what we may see going forward. Everyone who wants to will be able to augment their own mind with AI, instantly being able to calculate or have access to all knowledge without learning.

        I can't visualize what the effects of this would be.

  31. THX1138   2 months ago

    "Plus: NYC can't build a damn park"

    Wollman Ice Rink, anyone?

    Will NYC be smart enough to hire Trump to bail them out again?

    https://nypost.com/2017/01/22/saving-wollman-rink-made-trump-a-new-york-city-hero/

  32. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    No, it's not good.

    but, honestly, it's somewhat refreshing to have a federal commission that's willing to look at, say, the obesity rate, the high consumption of ultra-processed foods, and teens' exploding screen time, and say: This is not good, and we actually bear costs to our health care system the more we allow this to continue.

    This is none of any government's business, and it's shameful that an ostensible libertarian writer for an ostensible libertarian website would think it's any of her or the government's business to make decisions for society.

    If you want to blame government for treating minors like prisoners who must be kept in school, to the point of locking them up in juvenile hall and their parents in jail, go ahead. If you want to blame corrupt cronies for conspiring with the government to sell bullshit nutrition guidelines and make healthy food more expensive, go ahead.

    But stop pretending government has any business investigating themselves and blaming someone else, and stop pretending government could fix it if they weren't neck deep on the corruption themselves. The last thing any bureaucrat wants is to solve the problem that created and sustains their job.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Looks like there's a new One True Libertarian in town.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        Still nursing a hangover from yesterday, buddy?

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Eh, wait til the next post or tomorrow or Monday or Tuesday. His man crush will have flipped again.

          1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

            Soon as he finds out he isn’t tall or well groomed.

          2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            You do realize that you're discussing man crushes with someone who is so fucking obsessed with me that he put my name into his handle, right?

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

              Who are you talking about? I think there's several by now. Besides, I can't tell when you're being sarcastic.

            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              I do enjoy making fun of dumbasses who think they are intelligent, you're correct.

              1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

                Sarc thinks his name is in your handle.

            3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              So you admit you read the comments and mute exactly nobody. Plus it’s not an obsession, it’s just pure mockery of you, dudette.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      If the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services wasn't shelling out over $2 trillion a year, then yeah, it wouldn't have any business. But since there are real, actual costs to the nation's rising obesity rate, and it's being borne by my fucking tax dollars, then I have no problem with RFK bringing the hammer down on anything that causes those sky-high costs.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        Yeah, that's a real practical answer. "They're wasting my money, so I'm happy having them waste more to not fix the problem."

        Even if government were competent and had the wisdom and insight to find one perfect solution for everybody, that would be a lousy take. And since government bureaucrats and politicians don't want to solve the problems that keep them employed, and since government solutions are one-size-fits-nobody, your take is even worse.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

          It isn't any less practical than "Yeah, this is a problem, but fuck if I know what the solution is."

          And since "eliminate Medicare and Medicaid" is a complete fantasia right now, the actual responsible solution is to figure out how to mitigate those costs, especially when we have actual empirical data on the costs associated with rising obesity rates.

          And guess what? On the plus side, not having a nation of fatasses will lower private sector insurance costs, too. Or is that not something you deem to be desirable?

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

            It doesn't matter what *I* deem desirable, and it's none of your business either. You've just proven you're a statist busybody who knows better than everybody else what's good for them.

            Now address the elephant in the room -- how impossible this desire of yours is:

            Even if government were competent and had the wisdom and insight to find one perfect solution for everybody, that would be a lousy take. And since government bureaucrats and politicians don't want to solve the problems that keep them employed, and since government solutions are one-size-fits-nobody, your take is even worse.

            You've got to be an incredibly statist statist to want to mind other people's business even when your meddling cannot accomplish its goal.

            If you know how to accomplish your meddling goal, pray enlighten us. Otherwise you've also outed yourself as a do something, anything, even if it won't work statist.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

              It doesn't matter what *I* deem desirable, and it's none of your business either. You've just proven you're a statist busybody who knows better than everybody else what's good for them.

              And you're an entitled asshole who thinks I should pay for your and everyone else's triple bypass due to your shitty eating habits. Talk about statism.

              Libertarians aren't anarchists. If government was an inherently incompetent institution, the earliest civilizations never would have lasted more than a few years.

              You've got to be an incredibly statist statist to want to mind other people's business even when your meddling cannot accomplish its goal.

              I'm sorry, are my tax dollars and increased costs of my fucking medical insurance not the result of rising obesity rates? If they want people to leave them alone, they can pay for their triple bypass out of their own fucking pocket. Calling someone else a statist while taking money out of their pocket for your health care at the point of a gun is the epitome of "the statist cries out in pain when he strikes you" behavior.

              If people want to take handouts from the government for their food, they can buy what they're told to buy, especially at $2 trillion-plus per year. If they want to buy whatever the fuck they want, they can give up the fucking food stamps.

    3. Rick James   2 months ago

      This is none of any government's business, and it's shameful that an ostensible libertarian writer for an ostensible libertarian website would think it's any of her or the government's business to make decisions for society.

      Slow down, this is the publication that thought it was great that Pimps had to 'register with the government' and that we should 'abolish everything... except that agency that makes it so we know what's in our legal drugs' and that we should 'repeal the communications decency act' except for powerpoint slide #230.

      Oh, and something something gender affirming care.

  33. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    "Diplomats and embassy staffers, rattled by the killing of two Israeli embassy staffers—a young couple about to get engaged—are wondering whether they need heightened security measures,..."

    Fascinatingly anodyne discussion of the repercussions of radical Left political violence

  34. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

    ""We'll smash these things like bugs, as foreseen by Philip K. Dick, six+ decades ago.""

    I hate to break it to you. Back in the 70s and 80s the idea of being tracked wherever you went was considered treasonous taboo and conspiracy theory. Now we can't wait to by the latest and greatest tracking devices (phone).

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      if they're going to teach anything in schools, PKD should be taught in schools.

  35. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    Trump says a 25% tariff ‘must be paid by Apple’ on iPhones not made in the U.S.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/23/trump-tariff-apple-iphones-not-made-in-the-us.html

    The gist of the article is that Trump is going to force iPhone users to spend at least 25% more no matter what. They can pay more because of the tariff, or Apple can move production to the U.S. which will increase the price by at least 25%.

    He and his defenders honestly believe that the more expensive he makes stuff, the wealthier we become.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

      Yes, Trump is trying to manipulate costs in order to affect market forces to get a result he deems better, i.e. encouraging more domestic manufacturing. Rather like congestion toll pricing in places like Lower Manhattan, which writers at Reason supported.

      1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        Rather like congestion toll pricing in places like Lower Manhattan, which writers at Reason supported.

        Um, no. Those things are nothing at all alike.

        Congestion toll pricing is supply and demand at work. Limited supply and increased demand means higher prices. That's Economics 101.

        What you are defending is the use of tariffs to negate comparative advantage and create opportunity cost. That's Protectionism/Mercantilism 101, and the exact opposite of what Adam Smith said nations should do in his book The Wealth of Nations that basically started the field of economics.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          Congestion toll pricing is manipulating the marketplace no differently than any other government manipulations of the marketplace from taxes to tariffs.

        2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

          Congestion pricing is a government agency manipulatiing prices in real time in order to effect a certain behavior on the users of the system. It has nothing to do with normal market pricing other than a vague resemblance.

          Also, I have much reason to expect Trump's tariffs are going to set up perverse incentives which he will not expect or like.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            You've got that backwards. Keeping prices the same, no matter the demand, is the manipulation. It's akin to anti-gouging laws that don't allow stores to raise prices when demand outstrips supply. The result is shortages. In the case of roads that means congestion and gridlock.
            Raising prices with demand is much closer to allowing markets to work than keeping prices the same.

            That has absolutely nothing in common with Trump's protectionist/mercantilist policies that you defend.

            1. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

              My point being that is not a legitimate market signal. It is an arbitrary decision made by a government agency. just as the tariffs are.

            2. See.More   2 months ago

              . . . The result is shortages. In the case of roads that means congestion and gridlock.

              Raising prices with demand is much closer to allowing markets to work than keeping prices the same. . .

              No, it's not closer to markets. In order to be closer to markets, there would have to be competitors; additional suppliers of the product (roads) setting their prices and policies to attract consumers.

              A single provider applying surge pricing only superficially mimics market supply/demand price fluctuations. It certainly doesn't seek a price equilibrium. It is strictly used as a price deterrent to ration road use.

        3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Poor sarc. Every one of his beliefs continues to be proven wrong over and over.

          https://www.techspot.com/news/108019-trump-tariffs-havent-impacted-amazon-prices-or-customer.html

      2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        More on congestion toll pricing. Keeping toll prices the same no matter the demand is not allowing markets to work, and the result is shortages. In this case a shortage of road space for the number of people who want it. Allowing prices to rise with demand is allowing markets to work. The higher prices mean that some people decided it isn't worth it, and there's more left for everyone else. That is good economics.

        On the subject of trade, good economics says you do what you're good at, they do what they're good at, and then you engage in trade. The result is that everyone is richer.

        What Trump wants, and what you are defending, is that you do what they're good at because you're a dumbass, and that creates opportunity cost because you're not doing what you actually are good at. As a result everyone, including you, is poorer.

        I guess that's what you and Trump want though. And you're going to get it. Good and hard.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          Again, any sort of toll, tax, or tariff is a manipulation of the marketplace in that regard. The ultimate goal of such manipulations is to change consumer behavior.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Any regulation is also a manipulation of the market place.

        2. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

          If people can’t tolerate the congestion, they will leave space for those who can, without the additional burden of tolls.

        3. See.More   2 months ago

          More on congestion toll pricing. Keeping toll prices the same no matter the demand is not allowing markets to work, and the result is shortages. In this case a shortage of road space for the number of people who want it. Allowing prices to rise with demand is allowing markets to work. . .

          This is patently false. There is no "market" involved in the congestion toll pricing scheme you are referring to. There is a single provider with a fixed supply (number of lanes of traffic) that cannot be readily adjusted to meet demand. There are no competitive forces at work. There is strictly a price deterrent in an effort to ration access to that limited and constrained supply. Any resemblance to market forces is strictly superficial.

    2. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

      Apple can move production to the U.S. which will increase the price by at least 25%.

      Cite?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Remember when qb and sarc were claiming they didn't say the tariffs were passed 1:1 to consumers...

        Feels just like yesterday.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          If it's made in the US, there's no tariff. Think about what they mean and what you're saying.

  36. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>This is all especially ironic ... Anthropic's whole shtick is that they're the good guys, developing a superior, safer artificial intelligence product.

    can anything be ironic if no fewer than eleven million sci-fi writers prophesied it?

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      I'm pretty sure at least a few of those writers are AI.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        lol I'm not certain the Most High isn't AI ... my problem is imho regardless of the road chosen good or bad we end up as cylons ... and I like my flesh suit

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          To each their own...A world populated by Tricia Helfer doesn't sound too bad.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            what if they're all Tyrol?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

              Then they’re split between Austria and Italy.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                lol.

  37. mad.casual   2 months ago

    will be a third core device a person would put on a desk after a MacBook Pro and an iPhone

    On the plus side, the arrival and use of all such devices and more will be announced ahead of time.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      can I just have my iiC again?

  38. Dillinger   2 months ago

    have we reached the point where all the actors are included within six degrees of Kevin Bacon and if so was there an event horizon?

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      If so, it probably happened a while ago. SO it must have been a pretty big event horizon if no one noticed.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        ooh maybe Anthropic has the answer

  39. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>More details about the couple, Yaron Lischinsky and Sarah Milgrim.

    see this is where I make the plea for outlawing because why should the State of Illinois or the District of Columbia or the feds have all the fun with the coward psychopath islamo-marxist?

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Charles Bronson might just be the answer to this and your question above.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        I loved The White Buffalo I had the flu when it first hit HBO in whatever 1983 maybe ... watched it like 10x in three days

  40. Dillinger   2 months ago

    and alright fine RFK is pushy but the legal food & drink drugs are worse than the illegal drugs so when Single Payer Avenue meets Everyone has Type 2 Lane what's the plan?

  41. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    The View host 'out in the cold after she had nerve to scold ABC boss who warned them to stop anti-Trump rants'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/media/article-14742903/The-View-politics-Anna-Navarro-Bob-Iger-executives-ABC.html

    Guess they got the Trump administration's memo. And it's ok because, well, you know why.

    1. Rick James   2 months ago

      It's actually an interesting article. At first I saw the link and thought, 'Meh' then I zoned in on the name "Iger" and thought..."hmm".

      Ana Navarro faces being given a very cold shoulder by her co-stars on The View after she had the nerve to challenge her uber-powerful boss' complaint that the show's constant moaning about Donald Trump is boring.

      Bob Iger - CEO of ABC parent company Disney - asked the panel show to tone down the politics in recent weeks after finding viewers responded better to frothier showbusiness segments, the Daily Beast reported.

      Navarro is then said to have taken it upon herself to push back against Iger - one of the most powerful figures in media - by insisting that viewers enjoy being served an daily dose of resistance-style rants.

      But the anti-Trump Republican may have made a very dangerous error.

      Fox News is now reporting that Navarro's co-hosts actually 'agree' with Iger and that they're happy to change the direction of the show.

      The stars are also said to fear that 'ignoring Bob Iger seems like a terrible decision.' Bosses on The View are famously brutal with dumping stars who don't play by the rules or who are disliked by the audience - meaning Navarro could find her role next on the chopping block.

      There's a lot to unpack here. First off, if we take the reporting at face-value, all Iger did was roll his eyes and say the constant ranting was "boring". 2nd, we need to remember he signs the paychecks and in the end, The View is a place of employment for these cackling Karens and ultimately, if they want to keep their jobs-- it is what it is. The media landscape gives any of these hosts the same opportunity Tucker Carlson had. Carlson got fired from Fox, and now he's more popular-- and freer than ever, unburdened from editorial controls. And lastly, I still remember the Whoopi Goldberg situation. I remember being one of the few people who had at least an ounce of sympathy for her. Not because of the utterly retarded thing she said, but the fear in her eyes and the SOS-blinking apology she had to do afterward, when even she realized that no matter how big a star she thinks she is, there's a cigar-smoking trillionaire in the background who can have her fired with a phone call or a text message.

      I think that her co-stars have learned that lesson and don't want any part of her 'resistance' bullshit because they want to continue to put food on the table.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        Navarro doesn't have to worry about maintaining her lifestyle because her husband has a nice job through his law and lobbyist connections. Whoopi has admitted on air that she'd be dead broke if she didn't have her spot on The View, which is rather interesting considering she's been an in-demand actress for 40 years even as she's aged.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          Jumpin' Jack Flash doesn't pay residuals?

        2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          I know tons of people hated her on Star Trek TNG, but I enjoyed Whoopie in that role. She was even better as the crazy fake psychic in Ghost.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            Sister Act is a lot of fun, too.

          2. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

            Other people are writing her words in movies and scripted TV. Her real life persona is kind of an idiot.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      In some places, that’s called insubordination when you tell your boss you’re going to continue behaviors you’ve been asked to stop. Those rants are probably costing ABC viewers and advertisers.

    3. Super Scary   2 months ago

      They may have been tired of having to spend a few minutes of their run-time every episode having to read legal disclaimers because they can't help but lie about Trump.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        Hard to get an advertiser to sponsor that sort of non-sense.

  42. Rick James   2 months ago

    • The product will be capable of being fully aware of a user's surroundings and life, will be unobtrusive, able to rest in one's pocket or on one's desk, and will be a third core device a person would put on a desk after a MacBook Pro and an iPhone.
    • The Journal earlier reported that the device won't be a phone, and that Ive and Altman's intent is to help wean users from screens.
    • Altman said that the device isn't a pair of glasses, and that Ive had been skeptical about building something to wear on the body.

    The perfect gift for the libertarian in your life.

  43. Anastasia Beaverhausen   2 months ago

    Dear Liz Wolfe: This is a *libertarian* publication, in case you haven't noticed. It's not "refreshing" to have ANY federal commissions whatsoever.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

      Well, this is unReason after all where they champion moar bureaucracy.

  44. Reason4thinking   2 months ago

    A very measured tone from Liz Wolfe. When Michele Obama made identical claims in the first Obama administration, she was pilloried in the conservative press. The Hunger-Free kids law was put in place but, lo and behold, Republicans gutted the funding for the program. Just as they are now gutting funding for SNAP. I guess child nutritional standards are yet one more politicized part of our lives. Great for sound bites but not for bites of food.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      Just as they are now gutting funding for SNAP.

      Uh, the "gutting" is not allowing purchases for shit like sodas. It's supposed to be a "nutrition" program, after all, not a "junk food" program. And it's rather telling that the nation's obesity rate has gone up since the implementation of food stamps in the first place.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

        Speaking from having been a grocery store cashier, it was always stunning how much junk food was purchased using SNAP cards (Link Card in Illinois). It was like none of these folks had ever heard of buying inexpensive good foods or produce.

  45. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    It's not enough that Trump saved Newsom from a debacle, now Newsom is going to blow taxpayer money to make an ass of himself anyhow:

    "Newsom to sue Trump after Senate blocks California EV rules"
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/congress-blocks-california-s-ev-mandate-what-does-that-mean-for-climate-goals/ar-AA1FlXSX?ocid=BingNewsSerp

  46. Bill Godshall   2 months ago

    As a retired public health activist (working to slash US cigarette consumption by 80%, and virtually all teen smoking) who read RFK's entire report, I think it contains some excellent priorities, research, data and recommendations, but also contains inaccurate and misleading claims/research/data and critically important omissions, while further confusing food consumers, politicians and the media.

    The report's most scientifically sound and best advice includes:

    - Blaming "poor diets", "lack of physical activity and chronic stress" and "overmedicalization", but no scientific evidence exists for the report's left wing Green attacks on "environmental chemicals".

    - Highlighting skyrocketing rates of obesity and overweight adults and children, which causes diabetes, heart disease, kidney disease, high blood pressure and many/most other chronic diseases.

    - Unfortunately, the report failed to criticize the massive increase and overconsumption of meat and dairy products (which now account for 35% of calories consumed in the US, and are strongly linked to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, stroke, prostate/breast/colon cancer, and high bp and cholesterol).

    Meanwhile, the report further misled and confused readers by using the intentionally undefined and vague, but demonizing, term "Ultra Processed Foods" (which means totally different things to different health researchers, activists and consumers) and cited incompatible studies/data, as studies/data that define a UPF as containing more than 5 ingredients cannot be compared/contrasted to studies/data that define a UPF to having more than 6, 7, 8 or 9 ingredients.

    The report's most important recommendations are to reduce "added sugar" consumption and increase "physical activity" (as consuming <50 calories of added sugar daily is far far healthier than consuming 500 calories per day, and virtually all the healthiest humans in history have gotten at least a dozen hours of physical activity per week).

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      the massive increase and overconsumption of meat and dairy products (which now account for 35% of calories consumed in the US, and are strongly linked to obesity, diabetes, heart disease, stroke, prostate/breast/colon cancer, and high bp and cholesterol).

      Meat and dairy are not "overconsumed." They're a critical part of a healthy diet and have been for milennia. The obesity rate is linked to the increased consumption of processed sugars and carbohydrates, not meat and dairy. That's why people who cut out the latter but keep the former, in conjunction with a consistent exercise program, end up losing weight.

      1. Bill Godshall   2 months ago

        You've been deceived (as have all Americans) by the very powerful meat and dairy industry lobbyists, researchers, advertisers and PR hacks.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          You have an active fantasy life.

    2. Bill Godshall   2 months ago

      Since 1909, US per capita consumption of meat has increased from 171 pounds to 264 pounds annually.

      Meanwhile, in just the past three decades, US per capita dairy consumption, which was already very high, increased from 560 pounds to 665 pounds annually.

      Humans who eat lots of meat and diary (i.e. >25% of total calories)
      are far more likely (compared to vegans) to be obese, have heart disease, strokes, diabetes, kidney disease, breast/prostate/colon cancers, have higher BP and cholesterol, and have more depression.

      1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

        Are there any vegan weight lifters?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcs Kampf mit der Realität)   2 months ago

          I’ve known weight lifters, and the simple answer is no. They tend to eat a protein heavy diet.

      2. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        Almost all the vegans I've known have been obese women who constantly whine about their health problems.

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

        Obesity rates were static in the US at around 12-15% up through 1980, and started climbing after that. Meat consumption started climbing rapidly after the end of World War II, and had already increased over threefold by the time the obesity rate started its own rocket ride.

        1. See.More   2 months ago

          Obesity rates were static in the US at around 12-15% up through 1980 . . .

          I'm sure that the National Institute of Health lowering the BMI score threshold for overweight and obese had nothing to do with it. The goal post was literally moved to reclassify a shit-ton of people as overweight.

      4. See.More   2 months ago

        . . . Humans who eat lots of meat and diary (i.e. >25% of total calories) are far more likely (compared to vegans) . . .

        Correlation does not equal causation. What other lifestyle differences are involved? Generally speaking, vegans have different ideas, attitudes, and lifestyles than carnivores.

  47. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

    if you can stomach some of the anti-corporate leftism that creeps in

    Being opposed to poisoning children is leftist?

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      no, the left hates kids

  48. Dillinger   2 months ago

    hey thanks as always for the forum. have a lovely weekend, all!

    1. Don't look at me! (This is not as fun as it used to be)   2 months ago

      You too.

  49. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "honestly, it's somewhat refreshing to have a federal commission that's willing to look at, say, the obesity rate ... and say: This is not good, and we actually bear costs to our health care system the more we allow this to continue."

    This is just as stupid an opinion as Reason could come up with. It was stupid when government experts tried to influence peoples' health, it was stupid when government tried to pay for peoples' healthcare and it's stupid now that the anti-vaxxers are in charge of stupid government health and healthcare interventions. For shame, Reason!

  50. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "Scenes from New York"

    You could have just stopped there, Liz. There is no need for you to post anything after you post that phrase. It's stupid because you live in New York City. All big blue cities are stupid BECAUSE they are cities and it is impossible to have a city government without stupid city government functions.

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