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Politics

The South Stole Your Job

Plus: Tulsi does Trump's bidding, a new front opens in New York's war on weed, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 5.15.2025 9:30 AM

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What if the whole Rust Belt decline narrative is wrong? "There's a popular story that politicians in both parties like to tell us: The Rust Belt was a thriving region until China, Mexico and their American business allies tore their manufacturing jobs away with lopsided trade deals," writes Gary Winslett, Middlebury College professor, in The Washington Post. But what if the whole narrative is wrong? "The Rust Belt's manufacturing decline isn't primarily about jobs going to Mexico. It's about jobs going to Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee. To put it in college football terms, the traditional Big Ten has been losing out to the Southeastern Conference."

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"In 1970, the Rust Belt was responsible for nearly half of all manufacturing exports while the South produced less than a quarter," continues Winslett. "Today, the roles are reversed, it is the Rust Belt that hosts less than one-fourth of all manufactured exports and the South that exports twice what the Rust Belt does." The reasons why? It's a classic tale of interstate competition, in which the South lured jobs away from the Rust Belt by simply having more pro-business laws and conditions. Right-to-work laws in southern states "created more operational flexibility and attracted capital." The Rust Belt is heavily unionized; the South isn't. The South has cheap electricity and housing, lower tax burdens, more immigrants flocking in to provide cheap labor, and easier and faster permitting processes, argues Winslett.

In one sense, if more people believed this story about manufacturing decline, our political dysfunction might get even worse: Don't look at the Chinese as the ones who took your jobs…look to your own neighbors. But it is important to correctly identify why an entire region has seen such a decline, and maybe constituents should demand that their legislators create more favorable conditions for businesses to thrive if they want to work at those types of businesses. There is a relationship between the types of laws passed and the industries that thrive, and policymakers should be expected to understand the consequences of their actions.

But there's another important point raised by Winslett: Using tariffs to try to force the reshoring of manufacturing businesses doesn't necessarily mean the Rust Belt will be reinvigorated; it's very possible business owners will choose to set up shop in the South or Sun Belt instead, citing the advantages noted above. "That hyper-automated Black & Decker factory went to North Carolina, not Pennsylvania," argues Winslett. "Manufacturing doesn't chase nostalgia; it follows the bottom line."

Dissent will be squashed: "Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has fired the top two officials at the National Intelligence Council, weeks after the council wrote an assessment that contradicted President Donald Trump's rationale for invoking the Alien Enemies Act and deporting alleged Venezuelan gang members without due process," reports The Washington Post. Both Michael Collins, acting chair of the National Intelligence Council, and Maria Langan-Riekhof, his deputy, were axed by Gabbard.

Since the start of his second term, President Donald Trump has been using the 1798 Alien Enemies Act (AEA) to deport Venezuelans he claims are associated with Tren de Aragua, a designated foreign terrorist organization. Trump believes the AEA allows him to deny court hearings to certain immigrants during times of "declared war" or when a foreign government has taken part in an "invasion" or "predatory incursion" and that the Venezuelan government, by directing the activities of Tren de Aragua, is threatening U.S. national security and has sent enough people here to constitute an invasion.

But a memo made public last month undermined Trump's claim, as it appears intelligence agencies within the administration do not believe that Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro actually directs the activities of Tren de Aragua, therefore making it hard for the AEA criteria to be met. (You may recall that I reported this in Reason Roundup at the time.)

"The NIC is the top U.S. intelligence community body for analyzing classified intelligence and providing secret assessments to the president and other top policymakers," adds the Post. But how dare you disagree with, or complicate the novel legal approach of, the administration in charge. It seems like maintaining some degree of independence within the NIC, versus populating it entirely with sycophants, would be helpful. But maybe not. (Also wild that Gabbard—long an independent voice—is now so inclined to do Trump's dirty work.)


Scenes from New York: After a bill that legalized marijuana was signed into law in 2021, tons of unlicensed dispensaries sprung up. For a few years, authorities sort of looked the other way (and consumers got the product they wanted). But in May of last year, New York City got serious about its enforcement efforts, shutting down 1,400 pot shops from then until now. Over the same period, the weed bureaucrats have allowed 160 licensed dispensaries to open.

Now, interestingly, "the court orders that allowed the city sheriff to seal the illegal businesses with padlocks for one year have begun to expire, requiring the city to remove the locks," reports The New York Times. "The expiring sealing orders have raised the possibility that a wave of illegal stores could reopen and once again overwhelm legal operators."

Excellent. It is competition that should never have been shut down by the government! For more on New York's weird war on weed, check out this documentary I produced:


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  • "In a budget presentation on Wednesday, [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom proposed freezing the enrollment of undocumented adults in the state's version of Medicaid, known as Medi-Cal, as soon as January," reports The New York Times. "He is also seeking to charge people who remain in the program $100 a month, beginning in 2027, and eliminate long-term care and dental benefits for undocumented adults and other noncitizens. The governor estimates that those changes combined would save the state $6.5 billion by the 2028-29 fiscal year." This strikes me as extremely reasonable, and probably something that should've been pursued long ago.
  • "Of the many things the Trump administration has done in the last 100-and-change days that have impacted free speech, the threats to law firms might be the most troubling," write Greg Lukianoff and Adam Goldstein. "Seven firms involved in cases that the Trump administration didn't like were targeted by orders and memoranda from President Trump himself in what appears to be retaliation for their involvement in those cases. Those firms face (or faced) having their government contracts reviewed, the actual or potential revocation of security clearances from their attorneys, and their attorneys' access to federal buildings limited.…The firms targeted by executive orders and memoranda seem to stand accused of…being lawyers."
  • "Mexico's security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration," reports the Associated Press.
  • The gender-swapping movie executives are coming for James Bond now (but Ben Dreyfuss is here to defend his honor):

I'm sorry if it makes me a member of the klu klux klan or whatever but of course he can't be a woman! If you want to have a woman secret agent, make a new character! The whole thing about James Bond is that he bangs hot babes. He can be black! But he has to be straight & a man https://t.co/75cm0yrz1I

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    What if the whole Rust Belt decline narrative is wrong?

    That would put a lot of meth dealers out of business.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      "writes Gary Winslett, Middlebury College professor, in The Washington Post."

      Everyone else got it wrong, and don't believe your lying eyes.

    2. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      Tariff Dixie.

      Make Ohio Great Again

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        You know who else wanted to Make Ohio Great Again?

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

          Marilyn Manson?

        2. tracerv   2 months ago

          Woody Hayes?

        3. mad.casual   2 months ago

          The Pretenders.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            My City Was Gone.

        4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          JD Vance, but he’s wrong about everything.

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

            Did you see Vance’s rally at Nucor in South Carolina where he mentioned his coal miner ancestors?? Nucor bankrupted Big Steel and Wyoming coal bankrupted West Virginia coal and Nucor doesn’t even use coal in their steel making process!! But he went to Yale!! Lololololololol!!!

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              Does anyone actually give a flying fuck what you say, dipshit?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The Rust Belt's manufacturing decline isn't primarily about jobs going to Mexico. It's about jobs going to Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee.

    The south has risen again.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Bunch of slavers.

    2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      This Northern Aggression will not stand, man.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Southern man, don't need you around anyhow.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Fuck it, Dude, let's go bowling.

      3. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        Look away, look away, look away, Dixie land!

      4. Dillinger   2 months ago

        queue Charlie Daniels

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEKMED-_2QQ

        1. tracerv   2 months ago

          Charlie lived one town over from me in Mt Juliet. My best friend from high school's older brother was Charlie's first drummer. He's got fantastic stories about early 70's rock. From Joe Walsh to Paul McCartney to Dickie Bets to Alex Chilton.

          Damn. Reminds me I need to ask Gary to lunch soon.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

            Six degrees of Charlie Daniels strikes again.

          2. Dillinger   2 months ago

            let me know when Gary says yes I am totally in on that lunch.

            1. tracerv   2 months ago

              Ha. Will do.

              His JJ Cale stories alone are worth the price of admission.

  3. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

    Amazing

    US wholesale prices dropped 0.5% last month despite President Trump's tariffs

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-wholesale-prices-dropped-0-124312090.html

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      This is impossible. The economy collapsed last month. Don't you follow the news and the economists sarc and Eric appeal to?

      As I was telling qb yesterday... at some point someone being constantly wrong in their prediction would take a second and try to figure out why their beliefs are wrong. But not in this case. It is excuse making and doubling down.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

        Yes, your predictions which have failed. You told me that businesses thrive on unpredictability. The stock markets downs and ups were just proof how well Trump's ignorance was working.

        It's also "telling" that you only brag of telling qb and others how to think. You never listen. You never admit Trump makes mistakes and lies.

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

          Trump fucks up as much as anyone else, but what were the lies?

          1. gnome   2 months ago

            Hey - I'm just waking up after four years in hibernation and the first thing I heard from Trump was a nasty lie about that nice Mr Biden being senile. Where are the fact checkers?

      2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        I think your victory celebration is premature.

        Even on fibberlation day it was predicted price increases would start in June and July.

    2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      NOOOOOO!!!!!

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Corollary fact. Taxing penguins = profit.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Gosh. Could it be that ...

          * Tariffs are import taxes paid by importers and passed on to consumers. The penguins would not pay those taxes.

          * The islands are part of Australia which already has the same tariff. The island tariffs just show Trump is an idiot who has idiots working for him who don't even know who owns the islands.

          * The islands are not inhabited by any humans and do not export anything.

          But no. Trump knows best. Trump is infallible. Trump is perfect. So you can say anything you want in Trump's name (isn't that taking his name in vain? Shame on you!) because that makes it true.

          1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

            PENGUINS!

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

            Dunno, but it is quite certain you are a TDS-addled ignoramus.
            Fuck off and die, asshole.

          3. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

            Ah, Stupid Penguin Dick... never change.

          4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            Yawn….. ok TJ. Whatever.

    3. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      I don't recall you posting the opposite reports when the opposite was happening. Your cherry-picking convinces nobody of anything except that you have cherry picked your talking points.

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        When exactly was that? Trump has been in office a grand total of five months.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          Yes. Nothing has happened in those five months. Quiet as a mouse, the economy has been. Better tell Jesse, he might want to adjust his talking points. See above for details, where Jesse brags about things which happened during those five months.

          1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

            Whatever happened, it is doubtful it had anything to do with Trump until very recently. Even a President's actions do not have an immediate effect on the economy. You really are a moron aren't you?

          2. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

            Why do you hate good news?

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              Because he's a TDS-addled slimy pile of shit.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

            Hey Rip Van Winkle, you're the one who seems to believe that inflation only started 1.5 months ago. The fuck you think you're kidding here?

      2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Pathetic.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/05/13/annual-inflation-rate-hits-four-year-low-groceries-have-biggest-decline-in-five-years-n2189023#google_vignette

      Annual Inflation Rate Hits 4-Year Low; Groceries Have Biggest Decline in 5 Years

      Gasoline prices decreased for the third straight month. At home food fell by 0.4 percent, or twice the rate of inflation. Eggs were down 17.7 percent since March, while pork and beef ran at or slightly behind inflation.

      Used cars declined in price while the prices of new models remained constant.

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        Repost from yesterday: bought gas for 2.99.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          Saw as low as $2.49 locally last week.

          1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

            Can’t be. Peak oil was like back in the ‘70’s

  4. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The Rust Belt is heavily unionized; the South isn't.

    Is there anyone who didn't think that unions factored heavily into it either way?

    1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      Every union leader and democrat in the USA?

    2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      The only people who didn't realize that unions were part of the problem are people who think voters rejected Chase Oliver because he was gay.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Whats this now? Who was gay?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Does Sarc know?

          1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

            Sarc knows all.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Economists we will never name say sarc is always right.

              1. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

                Not just economists. Also, but not limited to: Constitutionalists, virologists, biologists, horticulturists, and polemologists. And only if they dispute what conservatives and/or Trump suggest is a feasible strategy.

          2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            Gay huh? Nobody will vote for him now.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              So literally zero change from 2024. Phew.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          Sure, don't you remember all the times Jeff told us Chase was a "fag"?

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            Nobody could debate Chase's policies without Jeff and Sarc rolling up and saying "Faaaaaaaag. Chase is a faaaag. Everyone hates him cause he's a faaaag."

  5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Crime and murder drop after deportation of Maryland Men found there.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/homicides-drop-significantly-in-denver-and-aurora-to-start-2025-despite-public-perception/ar-AA1EEmyQ?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

      Total coincidence.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      In Denver, homicides have declined 58% through the first three months of the year compared to the same period in 2024

      I'm waiting for the leftist explanation for this reduction.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Don't hold your breath.

      2. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        Total success for gun control.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          What gun control? Polis is the one true dreamy libertarian.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            Ahem, that's Governor McDreamy.

        2. Michael Ejercito   2 months ago

          A gun control law that worked so well it retroactively reduced street crime and gang violence...

      3. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        CATO and reason have informed me that immigrants are much less violent than natives. This is just good luck.

        1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

          Uh, African Americans!! Duuuuuuuuuh.

      4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        They were doing the jobs Americans won’t do. What’s not to get?

      5. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Fentanyl deaths and violent crime spiked in 2020. Biden reduced both significantly by 2024 and then trend has continued in 2025. Or do you blame Biden for fentanyl ODs in January 2021??

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Cite?

  6. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    How the recent conclave resulted in the first American pope:

    Malört & Savior

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Using tariffs to try to force the reshoring of manufacturing businesses doesn't necessarily mean the Rust Belt will be reinvigorated...

    Interstate tariffing!

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      And walls?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        One around California would be fine by me.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          there's already a moat give it time.

        2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

          Blocking the coastal urban regions of CA should be sufficient.

          1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 months ago

            Turn it into an artillery range.

          2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

            We could do the Lex Luthor approach.

      2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Ask Wang, he'll yell ya...

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          I hear this place is restricted, Wang, so don't tell 'em you're Jewish, okay?

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Special income tax on union labor. An extra 10%? Seems fair.

    3. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      Civil War Reparations

  8. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Still shaking from these Insurrection that occurred a few days ago. Nobody was even killed.

    https://x.com/victoriaregisk/status/1922355013986201871

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Where's Sarc? He must be so disappointed nobody was shot.

  9. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Another Trump win as EPA begins to remove green credits for awful vehicle start/stop requirements.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/epa-targets-climate-friendly-start-stop-technology-everyone-hates-it

    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Point of clarification, the article claims the feature can be easily turned off by hitting a button, but that is definitely not the standard. Many vehicles require you to go into your vehicle settings, while parked, to turn it off or modify the behavior. The button pressing ones almost all require you to press the button every damn time you start your car too, unless they provide, again, an option to go into your vehicle settings to modify the behavior.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        The button in my vehicle just stops the auto hold. Engine still stops. Bit different with hybrid. Even when running on the engine and not battery it will go off then kick engine back on when pedal pushed. If stopped while running off battery, auto hold is automatic.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          I'm so glad my vehicle lacks that stupid start/stop feature.

          /also glad it has three pedals.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            I miss my 3 pedal vehicle. But this latest is a hybrid to hand to the kid on her 16th. Back to 3 pedal next car. Hard to find now though with all those steering wheel pedals.

            1. mad.casual   2 months ago

              Relevant to the discussion:
              The New Fiat 500 Hybrid Gets An Actual Freaking Manual Transmission

              A few years ago, Fiat had a problem with one of its big image-makers. The electric Fiat 500e city car simply wasn’t selling well enough for the scale of its production line to make sense. Rather than allocate some space in the Mirafiori plant to another model, Fiat set about the arduous task of turning an electric car into a hybrid. The development window was small, but Fiat seems to be pulling it off, with pre-production examples of the 500 Hybrid already being built.

              If that wasn’t interesting enough, among the staged low-resolution photos of a pre-production 500 Hybrid released by Fiat sits a partially camouflaged dashboard shot proudly displaying a shifter with a six-speed H-pattern on a cue ball knob. Yep, it’s a hybrid with a manual transmission, a sensible city car with gears you can row yourself.
              ...
              In this case, it also requires finding room in the dashboard for a shifter mechanism, designing a new pedal box with a clutch pedal that won’t cause issues in crash testing, running additional hydraulics through the firewall, and getting everything to play nice with the body electrical system.

              I'm not going to go out and buy one but the idea is definitely putting out interesting car nerd vibes.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                About damn time.

              2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

                Did you hear about Pope Francis’ Fiat?? It never broke down and now the Vatican says that will count as one of his miracles for canonization.

              3. Dillinger   2 months ago

                Fix It Again, Tony

                1. rbike   2 months ago

                  I drove a Fiat 500 around northern Italy for a couple days. Good times with a manual transmission.

        2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          I changed my auto-hold button to "press to turn on" instead of "press to turn off". Not all vehicles allow that, but check the settings. No auto start/stop though, fortunately.

          I miss having 3 pedals.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            what's your left foot supposed to do?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              Clutch.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                in absence of third petal ... lolz

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                  Phantom clutch. Went for it in a rental a month ago on a short trip. Wound up hitting the left side of the brake instead.

                  1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                    never good on the ankle to phantom clutch either

        3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          My hybrid changes between gas and battery so seamlessly that I usually don't even notice it unless I'm concentrating on it (if the blue light that says "ELECTRIC" is to be believed) . My wife's car, though it's like you took the key out of it at every stoplight and have to restart the engine from scratch.

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            Which is essentially what the mandate/feature was: a way to diffuse the costs of those control systems and punish ICE users for refusing to buy batteries (the features have to be modified for heat, cold, and older lead acid batteries that may not always crank over on the 0th try) and move to hybrid vehicles.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        And if you press the wrong button, God have mercy!

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has fired the top two officials at the National Intelligence Council...

    Our cherished institutional spooks aren't safe from fascism now?

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      What is the world coming to when valiant deep state defenders of "Our Democracy" can't even undermine their boss with falsehoods.

      Looks like Liz is a believer in the Hunter Biden laptop being Russian disinfo with that take since the IC seem infallible truthtellers to her.

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        Nothing says "libertarian" like having an absolute faith and belief in the nation's intelligence services. Didn't you know that?

    2. Moonrocks   2 months ago

      Since when is it news that a new administration fires holdovers from the previous administration?

      1. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

        When it’s the Bad Orange Man.

    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      If you can fire people for deliberately undermining their bosses and refusing to follow legal orders, then we're truly seeing the beginnings of Orange Hitlerism.

      Still, one must wonder where those brave heroes were when the previous administration and the alphabet agencies were illegally censoring social media, and illegally spying on political opponents, and knowingly manufacturing false charges against political opposition and dissidents?

  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    ' It's a classic tale of interstate competition, in which the South lured jobs away from the Rust Belt by simply having more pro-business laws and conditions. Right-to-work laws in southern states "created more operational flexibility and attracted capital." The Rust Belt is heavily unionized; the South isn't. The South has cheap electricity and housing, lower tax burdens, more immigrants flocking in to provide cheap labor, and easier and faster permitting processes, argues Winslett.'

    Sounds like we need some more tariffs.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      Thing is, foreign manufacturers have also been locating factories in the "rust belt" as well as the South. The narrative is a bunch of horse shit.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        No, the story (both of them) is incomplete. The Rust Belt lost to both the South and international competitors, both narratives try to focus on only one of the two for their own reasons.

        1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

          It's all the same underlying reason though. Government infection.

        2. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

          Yes. I know for a fact of several factories in Michigan closing and the company moving its production to Mexico.

    2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

      more immigrants flocking in to provide cheap labor,

      Couldn't help themselves...Like "immigrants" weren't providing cheap labor in northern manufacturing.

      ETA - still sounds very exploitive.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Democrats still crying "But who will pick our cotton?"

  12. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

    "There's a popular story that politicians in both parties like to tell us: The Rust Belt was a thriving region until China, Mexico and their American business allies tore their manufacturing jobs away with lopsided trade deals," writes Gary Winslett, Middlebury College professor, in The Washington Post. But what if the whole narrative is wrong? "The Rust Belt's manufacturing decline isn't primarily about jobs going to Mexico. It's about jobs going to Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee. To put it in college football terms, the traditional Big Ten has been losing out to the Southeastern Conference."

    This is a bullshit narrative, and it can be shown as bullshit easily. If the jobs all went south, then why did the South lose almost all of its textile manufacturing jobs?

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      The textile manufacturing jobs have also fled Mexico.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Fucking Uighurs. If they'd just obeyed the CCP then China wouldn't have been able to undercut Mexico.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Big Ten? He must mean the Big Eighteen.

  13. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

    But he has to be straight & a man

    Look at this throwback from the dark ages.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      So toxic.

    2. Longtobefree   2 months ago

      And British - - - - -

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        Would be horrific if Bond were Scottish, the worst of all outcomes.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          /Sean Connery has entered the chat.

        2. Randy Sax   2 months ago

          "I'm a black Scottish cyclops. They got more fecking sea monsters in the great Lochett Ness than they got the likes of me. So! T'all you fine dandies, so proud, so cocksure, prancin' about with your heads full of eyeballs... come and get me, I say!"

        3. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

          The movies would need subtitles which would take away from the action.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            Suck it, Trebek.

    3. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Age color is the most important thing.

  14. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    3rd day this will be posted as reason ignores it.

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/05/15/trumps-latest-order-could-keep-you-out-of-prison-for-crimes-you-didnt-even-know-you-committed/

    executive order titled “Fighting Overcriminalization in Federal Regulations,” addressing one of the most insidious threats to American liberty: the unchecked expansion of criminal penalties through regulatory sprawl. For decades, this trend has eroded the separation of powers, undermined due process, and transformed the federal legal system into a maze where ordinary Americans risk criminal liability for unknowable infractions.

    1. Super Scary   2 months ago

      They might be working on an article that explains how this is just something Trump did to cover his own ass in some way.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    But a memo made public last month undermined Trump's claim...

    So it's finally happened. Suddenly the deep state has turned against Trump.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Leaked deep state memos have all the hallmarks of truthful information.

    2. Super Scary   2 months ago

      "People familiar with the thinking of a memo made public"

  16. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The NIC is the top U.S. intelligence community body for analyzing classified intelligence and providing secret assessments to the president and other top policymakers...

    Secret, you say?

  17. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    The gender-swapping movie executives are coming for James Bond

    The whole thing about James Bond is that he bangs hot babes.

    If they "put a chick in it and make her gay" James Bond can still bang hot babes.

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Do they never gender swap the other way?

      I have trouble caring what they do with Bond.

      1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        There isn't really a point if they did it the other way. They turn male characters into women to show women can be "strong" and "capable". Turning a female character into a man shows that men can be gay and fruity?

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          It would definitely check the lame box.

        2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          In the female ghostbusters, the secretary character got gender-swapped to be a man, and then used as a punchline throughout the movie.

          1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

            What did they do about Walter Peck? My understanding was that he had no dick in the original movie.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              This is true. This man has no dick.

            2. Dillinger   2 months ago

              "... until Dickless here shut down the power grid!" lolz

          2. Super Scary   2 months ago

            And, lacking any subtlety, they cast Chris Hemsworth in that role. Janine was sort of a niche hotty but for the reboot they just went "We need one of the hottest guys possible and we'll just throw some glasses on him."

          3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            So you’re the one person who watched that?

        3. tracerv   2 months ago

          I've always wanted Jane Bond to make me a sandwich.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        "I have trouble caring what they do with Bond."

        Right down there with the Diddy trial in my list of concerns.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          Well at least now we know the origin the "Diddy" name.

      3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

        ""Do they never gender swap the other way?""

        No one wants to see Charile's Angels with three guys.

        Making Bond a woman isn't about making a better movie. It's appeasement to a few, and many of them are not interested in seeing the movie either.

    2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      Replacing the Walther with a pair of scissors?

    3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      “…..can still bang hot babes.”

      Well,… maybe scissor or something?

  18. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    Solar panel buyers find rogue communication devices in panels bought from China. Can bypass many infrastructure firewalls.

    https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/climate-energy/ghost-machine-rogue-communication-devices-found-chinese-inverters-2025-05-14/

    Why is Reuters against free trade for reporting this?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      In similar vein...

      https://slashdot.org/story/25/05/14/140235/us-warns-against-using-huawei-chips-anywhere-in-the-world

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Luckily for most reason approved economists, risks like this don't impose actual costs.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          It's basically the biggest reason the Qatar 747 should never be used as AF1, don't care if they give it away for free. It would have to be stripped down to sheet metal and even then I wouldn't trust it.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

            ^This.

          2. jimc5499   2 months ago

            Pretty much do a "D" check on it.

          3. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

            Someone in yesterday's comments posted something about the 747 having been built in the US, and not ever gone to Qatar--that the Qatari government is just paying for it. Is that true? I'm too lazy to look it up myself. I agree that if the plane has been in the possession of Qatar, it would be stupid to trust it's not been fitted with all kinds of Qatari spy tech, or worse. Even if it's remained in the US, that doesn't mean that a Qatari official didn't have access to it to add potential surveillance.

          4. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

            Tillerson made Qatar the wealthiest country ever on the face of the earth…they are a country of 300k citizens that needs America much more than we need them. Tillerson and Bush planned on importing LNG from Qatar to America…but fracking proved economical and we never needed their LNG.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              Cite?

  19. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    But in May of last year, New York City got serious about its enforcement efforts, shutting down 1,400 pot shops from then until now.

    Unlike DC, NYC will not be lawless, and I thank them for following the letter of the law.

    1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

      Why does NYC hate small business?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Meh. New Yorkers hate pretty much everyone.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Still, could be worse...

          In Philly, they even boo Santa Claus.

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Have they tried a black Santa clause?

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              Is that a malt liquor?

            2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

              Is it white supremacy if Eagles fans boo a black Santa?

      2. jimc5499   2 months ago

        They don't hate "small business". They hate not getting the tax revenue that they think they deserve.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The expiring sealing orders have raised the possibility that a wave of illegal stores could reopen and once again overwhelm legal operators.

    What about those poor dispensers who played it above board???

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    He held intimate conversations with electors from Africa, Asia and Latin America and persuaded them to throw their support behind Prevost.

    Election interference.

    1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      I did hear there were a couple hundred thousand dollars worth of Russian ads on Facebook promoting Prevost.

  22. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    But there's another important point raised by Winslett: Using tariffs to try to force the reshoring of manufacturing businesses doesn't necessarily mean the Rust Belt will be reinvigorated; it's very possible business owners will choose to set up shop in the South or Sun Belt instead, citing the advantages noted above. "That hyper-automated Black & Decker factory went to North Carolina, not Pennsylvania," argues Winslett. "Manufacturing doesn't chase nostalgia; it follows the bottom line."

    This entire anti domestic manufacturing, buy China narrative is getting wild.

    It is amazing the laser like focus on tariffs while ignoring the entire regulatory state that was responsible for a lot of the offshoring.

    Reason remains quiet about the fact American manufacturing is taxed and regulated to very high costs, while crying about a single tax for producers not under these regulations. This is why Trump has ordered deregulation across government.

    To reason it is just fine if American rules and regulations add 20-30% costs for things produced manufactured domestically, don't you dare require foreign suppliers to even feel a 1% cost of government. It is a wild libertarian stance.

    Reason no longer endorses free competition and free markets. They endorsed advantaged foreing markets and suppliers. If they endorsed the former, there would be a shit ton more articles about regulation.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Don't forget unions, general, and the incestuous DNC-organized labor partnership.

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        It's all part of the same cancer.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Social Security adds an additional 14% deadweight loss to the cost of anything done in America.

  23. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    "Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard has fired the top two officials at the National Intelligence Council, weeks after the council wrote an assessment that contradicted President Donald Trump's rationale for invoking the Alien Enemies Act and deporting alleged Venezuelan gang members without due process," reports The Washington Post.

    Liz, why have you gotten so lazy? All your info lately is just the corporate media narrative. Both initial stories are wapo. If we wanted to read wapo we would go to wapo.

    They weren't fired for dissent. They were fired for a) leaking and b) ignoring the direction of the POLITICALLY elected leader.

    Is reason once again endorsing the deep state over those politically accountable?

    Likewise the issues with the leaked IC memo about tda and venezuela was already largely mocked. The report itself said low confidence in the memo. In the last thread I posted about 10 links to sources that are public. The FBI has the opposite conclusion. The heads of the IC do too, but you treat the politically leaked memo without attached names as the truth instead. This is a choice you've decided to make.

    1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

      Is reason once again endorsing the deep state over those politically accountable?

      Was there ever a time when Reason didn't do that? Reason has been a IC front operation at least since the Gay Fonzi took over and likely long before that.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        I'd have to go verify, but believe sullum questioned the IRS leakers under Biden. And they were very reluctant to report on Lerner until the IRS admitted to targeting.

        1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

          Whenever Democrats or the Deep State get caught red handed, Reason will send someone out, usually though not always Sullum, to scratch their chin and do a little navel gazing about how bad it is and then explain how the whole thing is symptomatic of a larger problem that Republicans are even more guilty of perpetuating. False equivalence and deflection are reason's go to moves in defending the Deep State.

    2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      Liz got tired of people complaining that she cites NYT too much. Next thing you know, she'll be citing Vox.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Masnick and yglesias should be required daily.

    3. XM   2 months ago

      Until Trump, no president ever fired anyone for disagreeing with his policies. All presidents just lived with “dissent” from people has direct power over. That’s a fact. Trump is the world’s greatest monster.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Nope. Never.

        https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/197-military-officers-purged-by-obama/

    4. GOD OF PENGUIN ISLAND   2 months ago

      John Brennan agrees with Liz:

      Tulsi must be over the target.

      https://x.com/realLizUSA/status/1922829887439573426

  24. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    Heaven forbid James Bond be a hot chick who bangs hot babes and mud wrestles the villain into submission and... forgot where I was going with this.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      So...

      put a chick in it and make her lame and gay?

      1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        No, make her hot and gay. Silly. And hurry up before the new obscenity bill gets passed.

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          If it's made in Hollywood she will be lame.

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

            Have Tarantino direct as his last film. And lame won't factor in. Eg Kill Bill.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      ""forgot where I was going with this.""

      To the theater to see it again.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    In a budget presentation on Wednesday, [California Gov. Gavin] Newsom proposed freezing the enrollment of undocumented adults in the state's version of Medicaid, known as Medi-Cal, as soon as January...

    Finally, a new Trump has emerged to take Trump Prime's place in three years.

    1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

      It will be as successful as new coke.

    2. Marshal   2 months ago

      Gavin bankrupted his state so he could call Republicans Nazis and we're just going to forget because he's going to make some cosmetic changes?

      This is like his claim he never used the term Latinx whereupon someone produced a video of him saying it in public comments multiple times. Give me a break.

  26. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    The governor estimates that those changes combined would save the state $6.5 billion by the 2028-29 fiscal year." This strikes me as extremely reasonable, and probably something that should've been pursued long ago.

    You know what is even more reasonable? Not spending a single cent on those here illegally.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      See below. What we really need is a construct for keeping these people from accessing these resources at any level without some sort of token or verification that they have or will contribute commensurate with outlays.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Pffffttt. Who cares? In deficit spending world, the bill won’t come due for a generation or two.

      Let the kids worry about it.

  27. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

    A Presidential appointee has gone and done the President’s BIDDING?!?

    RIP our Democracy. This is truly unprecedented- Wont someone think of the Precious Norms

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Be fair. The blob, including all the eager interns, were used to a President unable to bid much of anything.

  28. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

    Came across this in X this morning. Found it a bit disturbing.

    https://x.com/buynevich/status/1922699566433911153

    The CEO of open source intelligence firm Bellingcat, funded by US-backed NED, conceded at a recent “disinformation summit” that “fact-checking” has failed.

    He proposed a new plan - building a global network of university computer labs to create and shape discourse.

    Founded in the UK and based in the Netherlands, Bellingcat styles itself as an independent "open source investigations" firm countering so-called "disinformation."

    Bellingcat received funding from the 100% US government-funded National Endowment for Democracy (NED) to ramp up operations in 2017.

    NED was created by the US government in the 80s to handle the funding of global influence operations previously under the purview of the CIA.

    At the recent Cambridge Disinformation Summit in the UK, held at the end of April, Elliot Higgins singled out fact-checking as an ineffective way to control online narratives.

    Higgins believes public opinion and societal responses to real world events and topics must be engineered proactively rather than “fact-checked” passively.

    He said Bellingcat was already experienced in this type of narrative influence work to shape public discourse.

    "We cannot create hundreds of fact-checking websites because those fact-checking websites don’t actually engage in discourse and we have to create discourse, I think, in my opinion. So, Bellingcat has had a lot of experience dealing with this kind of thing in the past. And, I think from that we can draw some conclusions and some interventions that I think will work."

    Higgins further acknowledged another issue posed to his audience of censors looking to take control of information and discourse - the decline of legacy media.

    He lamented that "the traditional gatekeepers" of information such as "the newspapers" lacked the capability to take back control of information and discourse.

    Higgins identified several structural factors in the flow of online content that he said need to be addressed, including core functions of social media platforms such as the monetization of engagement.

    He went on to blame human biases and “fear-based thinking” for unspecified recent developments in America.

    The censors realized their "fact-checking" network failed. Establishment media struggles to regain public trust and control narratives.

    Higgins proposed a solution: create a global network of university computer labs to shape narratives and influence public response to political events in real time.

    Higgins floated the idea of combining the resources of university computer science labs around the world for political ends, citing pro-Palestinian protesters on university campuses and potential “police violence” against protesters in the U.S. as examples.

    He hopes to form a network of university computer science departments to power high-tech online investigations, to support the left-wing protesters against the police.

    Such efforts are already underway at Utrecht University in the Netherlands, where Bellingcat, in partnership with their Open-Source Global Justice Investigations Lab, helped spawn a response against police during Pro-Palestine protests.

    He said Bellingcat's network of university computer labs would be expanding in the UK to Birmingham, Nottingham, and Sterling University for the 25-26 school year.

    Bellingcat may not only be recruiting universities to monitor and influence narratives through open source coordinated journalistic responses, but also to take content down under new censorship legal predicates.

    The EU Digital Services Act (DSA) will force platforms to remove flagged content or face significant penalties.

    The DSA sees no borders - any speech deemed to be harmful can be removed. It is perhaps the biggest threat to free speech in the US.

    Alongside 22 other US-funded entities, we found that Bellingcat is part of a network of NGOs and universities in the EU acting as speech police to monitor and flag which online content should be censored under the DSA.

    Bellingcat is a part of at least 2 of the EU's Orwellian "digital media observatories."

    Notice in the images below, that a vast network of universities are involved in the effort to monitor online speech for censorship.

    Many of the censors' greatest challenges - ones that require such extreme information influence and legal solutions in order to control our discourse - stem from Elon Musk's acquisition of then-Twitter.

    Elon's decision to purchase the platform and subsequent release of the Twitter files largely exposed the in-house censorship apparatuses at platforms, and the direct involvement of governments to demand censorship of certain narratives.

    Higgins, a staunch proponent of censorship, has called Musk "an absolute disaster" for X.

    Higgins was previously a fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Digital Forensics Research (DFR) Lab, one of the most notorious censorship organizations.

    That very same DFR lab was founded under Damon Wilson, who is now President and CEO of Bellingcat funder NED and previously Vice President of the Atlantic Council.
    Image

    The DFR Lab was one of the four nongovernmental organizations that comprised the now-notorious Election Integrity Partnership, the DHS-created coalition that led online censorship during the 2020 US Presidential election.

    Entire narratives regarding the elections were monitored and flagged for removal by DFR Lab and the university computer science labs, which were in direct communication with platforms to ensure flagged speech was removed.

    Bottom line:

    The censors have realized that "fact-checking" is ineffective for artificially controlling and creating our discourse.

    The establishment media is struggling to compete and take back control of narratives.

    In-house censorship shops at platforms like X have largely been exposed and dismantled following Elon's acquisition of the platform.

    The censors are looking for a plan to harness control over discourse and speech online - and they may just be going back to school with a global network of university computer labs.

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      This guy needs a woodchipper

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        Yes he does.

    2. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

      Top Men.

    3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      So create a publicly connected OSF? Mike Benz already let us know this already happened.

    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

      Remember when Elon was borderline crazy for saying that Bellingcat was propaganda and/or a WEF/NATO psy-op?

      Guess we aren't done with the post-truth manufacturing process of turning crazy conspiracy theories into known-and-proven facts yet.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        "Higgins further proposed that all people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark—the name of the beast or the number of its name."

    5. Marshal   2 months ago

      None of this would be necessary pre-internet when the left media controlled the message without those pesky kids mucking things up.

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Twitter files largely exposed

      Add to this: Alex Berenson's well crafted lawsuit against Twitter. On that topic, wonder how his lawsuit agains the Feds (Biden admin) and Pfizer is going? Haven't seen anything on it recently.

    7. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      AI's got this.

  29. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

    "Of the many things the Trump administration has done in the last 100-and-change days that have impacted free speech, the threats to law firms might be the most troubling," write Greg Lukianoff and Adam Goldstein. "Seven firms involved in cases that the Trump administration didn't like were targeted by orders and memoranda from President Trump himself in what appears to be retaliation for their involvement in those cases.

    This is the Villareal of lawfare narratives isn't it.

    First the president is the ultimate authority for classification. Egan v Navy. This isn't in question.

    Second, these firms worked with democrats to abuse their clearances for political activities. This would remove clearances for almost any other holder using clearances for personal purposes.

    Third, reason has completely ignored actual dem attacks on lawyers such as Elias groups trying to bar conservatives from law licenses through the ABA or hiring them at law schools and major firms. Reason has not only ignored this, sullum actually defended it post 2020.

    In summary. Reason DEFENDED going after trumps lawyers for licenses and even the use of Rico in ga, Arizona, and Wisconsin. Now they are more outraged a president removed clearances from lawfirms that abused their clearances. Sounds similar to reason putting illegal immigrants over citizens.

  30. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    There's more to this than most people know.

    "In 1970, the Rust Belt was responsible for nearly half of all manufacturing exports while the South produced less than a quarter," continues Winslett. "Today, the roles are reversed, it is the Rust Belt that hosts less than one-fourth of all manufactured exports and the South that exports twice what the Rust Belt does."

    The first federal minimum wage law was part of FDR's New Deal, and expressly designed to prevent Southern textile mills with their cheap labor from enticing business away from Northern textile mills. A lot of that was precisely because so many of the Southern workers were black and non-union. And a lot of being non-union was because white unions wanted nothing to do with black union members, and a lot of that was because about the only way a lot of blacks could get jobs was by working for cheaper wages.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Was that "good racism"?

      1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        Any action that stomps a honky.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      Yet, these mills still moved from the Northeast to the South anyway. Now, the second part of this is, where have most of the South's textile mills gone? Answer that, and you'll find that Winslett is pushing a narrative and not being completely honest.

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        Yeah, things move around a combined free market like the US. Pointing that fact out begs the question of whether it is a good idea to make the entire world a combined market.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          International trade has never been a free market. The only reason states can ship interstate is due to the constitutional protections on trade. These don't apply to foreign nations. And they don't honor free trade.

          And eve. With this rules we continue to have the courts ignore states like California setting national standards in violation of the interstate pacts.

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

            You voted for Bush in 2004 after he lied us into a war while shipping jobs to China!! Lolololololololol!!!!

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              Cite? Links, please.

    3. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      LBJ gets the credit—as a senator he was vehemently anti-union and a Cold Warrior/pro military and pro fossil fuels. So Senator LBJ is the architect of the Texas economy and thus southern economy and then the final issue that needed to be solved was civil rights which LBJ shoved down the South’s throats…and then irony well to do northerners could finally move south and bring the GOP with them.

  31. Randy Sax   2 months ago

    Look at the picture used for today's round up. It's not 30 dirty men standing at a conveyor belt screwing the same nut on 60 times a minute. It's cranes and a pulpit and forktruck lanes. Liz, you could work in manufacturing.

  32. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Those firms face (or faced) having their government contracts reviewed, the actual or potential revocation of security clearances from their attorneys, and their attorneys' access to federal buildings limited.…

    FFS, are we down to empathizing with attorneys suckling at the taxpayer teat now?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Well, Reason is. Democrats are. Not sure about everyone else.

  33. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Mexico's security chief confirmed Tuesday that 17 family members of cartel leaders crossed into the U.S. last week as part of a deal between a son of the former head of the Sinaloa Cartel and the Trump administration...

    I'm getting whiplash on who cares about what at any given time.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      My favorite part is when Benicio del Toro wakes up after getting shot in the face with a bag over his head.

      Oh, **Spoiler Alert**

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        Fucking Mondays, huh?

  34. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    Huh. Lawfare against lawyers who represented political opposition. Who'd'a thunk it?

    "Of the many things the Trump administration has done in the last 100-and-change days that have impacted free speech, the threats to law firms might be the most troubling," write Greg Lukianoff and Adam Goldstein. "Seven firms involved in cases that the Trump administration didn't like were targeted by orders and memoranda from President Trump himself in what appears to be retaliation for their involvement in those cases. Those firms face (or faced) having their government contracts reviewed, the actual or potential revocation of security clearances from their attorneys, and their attorneys' access to federal buildings limited.…The firms targeted by executive orders and memoranda seem to stand accused of…being lawyers."

    I don't recall similar concern when Trump's lawyers were attacked and disbarred and sanctioned.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      Nor do I. Somehow this is all (D)ifferent.

    2. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

      It wasn't just Trump's lawyers. It was lawyers defending the J6 defendants. Reason is all about "due process" like that.

    3. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      I had to google this up because I figured you were being a Jesse and arguing in bad faith, and sure enough I was right. Some lawyers for Trump and for J6 defendants were indeed sanctioned and disbarred. Why? For violating professional misconduct rules, bringing frivolous lawsuits, bringing cases with no factual basis, and other violations. Take Jonathon Moseley for example. Here's a quote from the summary explaining why he was disbarred. It said he violated "professional rules that govern safekeeping property; meritorious claims and contentions; candor toward the tribunal; fairness to opposing party and counsel; unauthorized practice of law, multijurisdictional practice of law; bar admission and disciplinary matters … and misconduct.”

      Whereas what you are defending is Trump using executive orders to inflict arbitrary punishment on attorneys who pissed him off. The only thing they violated were Trump's fragile emotions and the fragile emotions of his defenders by taking cases that Trump and his defenders didn't like. The president using executive orders in an attempt to cow attorneys into not working for people Trump and his defenders don't like, with the express intent to deprive them of legal counsel.

      I know you're smart enough to see the difference. Question is if you're honest enough to admit to seeing the difference. I highly doubt it.

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        Sarcasmic bringing the "they were charged with misconduct, so they must have been guilty of something". Smart.

        I have to admit, I didn't realize you were a comedy act, much less such a good one. Shame on me for being too earnest to get the joke.

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Congrats, Jesse sock. You earned the mute button.

          1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

            You are just going to miss me laughing. Isn't that why you do this? To make people happy?

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Welcome to the high life!

              But don't worry, he doesn't mute anybody.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                True dat. He loves to claim he's "unmuted" me from time to time to say some shit about how he's wondered if I have something to say, just to turn around and use it as in insult.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

            Ohhhhh, looks like Sun just made the infamous List. Now, Sarc...

            POST THE FUCKING LIST!

            1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

              OOOOhh, I hope I made the list this time!

          3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            I love it when you start trying to use the accusations of those you claim you've muted against others. Proving once again you mute nobody.

            1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

              He will never mute me. I am an old friend. He knows he loves me.

              1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                You're a bottle of cheap alcohol?

                1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

                  Just call me "Old Grandad".

          4. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            "You earned the mute button"

            POST THE LIST, SARCKLES!

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Your TDS really does blind you to the facts.

      3. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        So you tried to educate yourself, read some democrat narratives and rationalization, and now agree going after conservative lawyers? Don't think you tried educating yourself. Sounds like you tried to find a talking point.

        Typical sarc.

        Also you seem to be forgetting you defended arresting trumps lawyers lol.

      4. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        This is like the legacy media debunking the plight of the Boers in South Africa by saying they asked the government of SA if it's true, and they said it wasn't.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Sounds like asking the Ottoman government about the plight of the Armenians in 1917, the German government about the plight of the Jews and Poles in 1940, the Soviet government about the plight of the Ukrainians in 1933, or the Cambodian government about the plight of the educated in 1976.

    4. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      That's what I thought.

      1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

        “Thought”.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        What did you actually think? Seems you just want to MSNBC for a talking point, giving it zero thought.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The gender-swapping movie executives are coming for James Bond now...

    WE HAD THAT IT WAS CALLED CHARLIES ANGELS.

    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

      La Femme Nikita, Salt, Anna, Hanna, The Long Kiss Good Night, Atomic Blonde, Zero Dark Thirty, Haywire... off the top of my head... does Hunger Games count?

      1. Randy Sax   2 months ago

        But were any of them gay and lame?

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Yeah, Atomic Blonde.

          The cinematography and choreography is good but the acting and plot are jumbled at best.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            That movie was awful.

            1. Dillinger   2 months ago

              was zero dark thirty any better? that chick is insufferable from like 500 yards.

              1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                I've never watched it, never interested me. I did like Chastain in Molly's Game.

                1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                  me neither, because that chick is insufferable lol

                  1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                    I didn't watch it because the subject doesn't interest me.

                    Check out Molly's Game. It's a good movie. I'm sure it will be free on Netflix again.

                    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                      thumb emoji

      2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

        Any movie starring Milla Jovovich. Especially Ultraviolet and the Resident Evil series. Aeon Flux, the movie. Kill Bill.

        There are plenty of great/good/decent movies with female leads that didn't need to take an established story and turn it upside down.

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          Yeah, my head was slowly oozing out of specific spy/thriller mode. If we're just going strong/action-oriented female protagonists... Buffy, Lara Croft (Where Jolie *already* leads and Craig supports), Sara Conner, Ellen Ripley, Jackie Brown...

          But, yeah, I would say gender swapping spays/neuters the protagonists rather than turns the story upside down.

          1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

            Get Tarantino to direct a full on 70s style exploitation flick about a Lesbian James Bond. It would be better than any of the Bond films made in the last 20 years and make a fortune.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              That could be amusing.

              As an aside, if more Bond films are made, it might be better to just set them in the 1960-1990 period instead of trying to keep up with the technology.

              1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

                I think you are right about that. They just fit better in that time period than today.

                1. mad.casual   2 months ago

                  I don't think it has to be explicitly lesbian.

                  It would a Trump-level mic drop on Spike Lee to make a competent, gender-swapped remake of Oldboy with Lucy Liu or Maggie Q or Michelle Yeoh or similar.

                  1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

                    I want a lesbian. I want it to be campy and fun. I would choose an actress who is really hot but also has a big following in the Lesbian community. I want the lesbians liking the movie so that fact can be shoved in the woke feminists' face when they start whining about how exploitive it is.

                    1. mad.casual   2 months ago

                      I think the lame and gay is intrinsically tied together and you might as well try to split the feminists from lesbians with a Klingon Bat'leth.

                      I submit as evidence: Gina Gershon in Showgirls vs. Gina Gershon in Bound. Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct vs. Sharon Stone in If These Walls Could Talk... campy and lesbian and action is going to jump whatever abstract shark the Bechdel Test does a shitty job of capturing or personifying.

                    2. Dillinger   2 months ago

                      >> I would choose an actress who is really hot but also has a big following in the Lesbian community.

                      anyone polled them on Sweeney?

                    3. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

                      Gina Gerson in Bound was hot. And Stone was like 60 years old and recovering from a stroke when she made If These Walls Could Talk. That is not a fair comparison.

                      I see what you are saying, however. The trick is you make her the women's college equivalent of a Lesbian Until Graduation. She is only a lesbian in that she bangs other hot women. She is a straight woman in every other aspect. You can't make her a real lesbian much less a "lesbian cinema" Lesbian. That is true. A James Bond who rents a Uhaul and moves in with the Villian's hot female operative would make for a really lame movie.

                    4. mad.casual   2 months ago

                      Gina Gerson in Bound was hot.

                      No. Gershon and Tilly together were hot. 'Gershon was hot' is mostly a you thing (NSFW?) especially comparatively (NSFW).

                      And Stone was like 60 years old and recovering from a stroke when she made If These Walls Could Talk. That is not a fair comparison.

                      I think you're misconceptualizing. Stone is implied to be bisexual with an older woman in Basic Instinct but ITWCT is the movie where, IME, women really say/react/respond "She's/that's a *real* lesbian!" Also, orthogonal to Gershon, Bound is/was "the hit" while Showgirls is trash. Lesbians don't want to see campy lesbians or view them as insults, derision, or male fantasy.

                      The whole LUG/lipstick lesbian persona largely got tossed in the "male gaze"/lezsploitation bin by feminists and lesbians alike in the 90s/00s with all the Wild Things and Cruel Intentions, etc.

                      But, my age, Chuck Taylors are back (again), maybe it could be done.

                    5. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

                      It has to be campy and fun. That is why it is done in the style of a 70s exploitation movie. The reason why cinematic lesbians are so charmless, unsexy, and boring is because they are always over earnest. Every lesbian in every movie for the last 40 years have been a thoughtful and sensitive woman just looking for long term love. By virtue of being a secret agent, a lesbian James Bond would be nothing like any other lesbian ever put on film outside of 70s porno movies.

    2. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

      They gender-swapped Charlie's Angels?! God, who would want to see that shit?

      1. mad.casual   2 months ago

        Does Pierce Brosnan's role in Mrs. Doubtfire count as a Bond actor playing a supporting role for two female leads?

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Disney producers.

      3. Ska   2 months ago

        It's Charlene's Anglers, a story about a mysterious woman and her highly selective group of hunky fishermen.

  36. mad.casual   2 months ago

    This strikes me as extremely reasonable, and probably something that should've been pursued long ago.

    If only there were some sort of social construct by which we could conceptually, or even physically, prevent people from getting anywhere near these programs or the resources they control without verifying whether they'd contributed or are expected to contribute in any way commensurate with the payout.

  37. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    I'm sorry if it makes me a member of the klu klux klan or whatever but of course he can't be a woman!

    Anyone who correctly misspells the Klan's name has my attention.

  38. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Maybe, just maybe ... They were Taxed and Regulated to death by the [WE] Identify-as gangsters and their Gov-Gun'em down legislation????

    How long did you expect them to survive with every 'armed' leftard STEALING form the shelves like no tomorrow?

  39. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Newsom faults 'Trump slump' for $12 billion budget hole"
    [...]
    "SACRAMENTO, California — Gov. Gavin Newsom is proposing to close a projected $12 billion state budget deficit by curbing a signature health care program for undocumented immigrants as President Donald Trump’s tariffs and rising health care costs batter California’s finances..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/newsom-faults-trump-slump-for-12-billion-budget-hole/ar-AA1EMnOF?ocid=BingNewsSerp
    Yeah, Trump brought all those folks in and signed them up, right?

    Well:
    "Proposed cuts to Medi-Cal for undocumented Californians gets pushback from advocates"
    [...]
    "Republican Senator Brian Jones says he warned the governor over a year and a half ago that the program was not sustainable.
    "Basically, what's happening now is the governor for the last six years has been making all of these promises of what he's going to do with Medi-Cal without really analyzing and paying attention to the outcomes and the possibilities of being able to keep his promise," said Jones.
    In total, Newsom's office estimates the changes will save the state $5.4 billion."
    https://www.abc10.com/article/news/politics/cuts-medical-california-budget/103-cb5e4665-767f-4145-9709-fff1556d071f

    CA (and US) taxpayers have been providing $5-1/2Bn annually for free health care for those here illegally. THAT is not acceptable, period. Go home, get out of here. No, I'm not paying.

  40. Ajsloss   2 months ago

    The firms targeted by executive orders and memoranda seem to stand accused of…being lawyers.

    What's the issue? Lawyers are scumbags.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      I'm surprised the old jokes haven't reared their heads yet.

      What's 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the sea? A good start.

      Why don't sharks eat lawyers? Professional courtesy.

      1. See.More   2 months ago

        What's the difference between lawyers and vultures? Lawyers take their wingtips off.

        It is absolutely possible to get pregnant doing butt stuff. Where do you think lawyers come from?

  41. Moonrocks   2 months ago

    Newsom proposed freezing the enrollment of undocumented adults in the state's version of Medicaid

    Newsom is taking away your Social Security!

  42. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "This strikes me as extremely reasonable, and probably something that should've been pursued long ago."

    A far better thing to wonder is why illegal aliens were ever eligible to enroll in Medical in the first place?

    1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

      Amazing how the winds have shifted. They have been doing this for years and reason never said a word about it. We have this way to cut so much spending that so reasonable and reason just never noticed or something.

      If anyone had so much had suggested this five years ago, Reason would have called them racists. Since open borders have been a disaster and reason is gearing up to make the "libertarian case for Governor Hair Gell for President", Liz tells us "this is extremely reasonable". You can't deport these people even when they commit crimes. But Liz is going to grant that maybe you shouldn't have to pay for their health care. You can advocate for that and not be a racist.

      You can't hate these people enough. You really can't. There is not enough contempt in the world that would be too much for them.

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      The hospitals profit from it. Don't underestimate the depth of the fascist grift.

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        The hospitals can't turn them away. So, this covers the costs they are stuck with plus whatever profit they want to make. That is exactly what is behind this.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          They can bill the government for costs of care for illegals. But like with most public takings, payments are 20 cents on the dollar.

          Arizona has sued them over these costs.

          1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

            They are required by law to treat anyone who walks in the door. So, if the illegals were not on medicaid, the hospitals would get nothing.

            1. Eeyore   2 months ago

              I don't think this is universally true. Only if you come in with a life threatening condition.

              1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

                No, not just life threatening.

                If you show up at an emergency room you have to been seen and given basic treatment. It has been normal here for illegals to just use the ER as their family doctor for years. Same for other indigent, like homeless drug addicts who visit for all kinds of stupid shit they can't pay for.

                Drives costs up dramatically for ERs. In fact, this was one of the reasons cited for Obamacare, uninsured using the ER too much (though Obamacare obviously didn't address the issue, they did cite the cause).

                1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

                  You supported the UAW/New Deal Democrat health care system!! You are a commie!! 😉

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                    Cite?

                2. rbike   2 months ago

                  When my father asks why his three day stay in the hospital costs $30,000 I explain that he must also pay for all the illegals. He still votes pure D though. A sister did finally realize this truth though.

            2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              Well only if accepting Medicare or Medicaid. Private hospitals do not.

              But that's why Arizona sued for uncompensated costs. Have been getting at least a little back since.

              About 20 years ago Southern Arizona lost the majority if trauma 1 hospitals due to the uncompensated costs for illegals. Leading to the lawsuits.

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

          I don't know if this is NYS or just NYC but hospitals add 10% to your bill to help cover bad debit.

          1. Eeyore   2 months ago

            10%? I'm pretty sure they just pull a random number out of their ass every time.

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              It's a line on the EOB. Say's 10% but I didn't do the math.

              1. Eeyore   2 months ago

                Maybe it's 10% on top of a random number they pull out of their ass?

                1. Stuck in California   2 months ago

                  Every fee is a random number pulled out of their ass.

                  Seriously. Most "book" rates for hospitals are massively inflated and then they negotiate with insurance companies for discounts for their users, driving the rate down to a percentage of the inflated cost. When you see $100 for two tylenol on a bill, or whatever, the insurance company doesn't actually pay that much, it's just the book rate. They tell you they paid that much, but it's almost universally discounted when the insurer makes the payment.

  43. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

    “It’s crucial for the wider world to note this great transformation has not come from Western interventionalists or flying people in beautiful planes giving you lectures on how to live and how to govern your own affairs,”

    Trump yesterday speaking about the transformation of the Middle East. This is why they hate him so much. Trump is like a guided missile aimed at their egos and smugness.

  44. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    Welcome to 'Libertarian Liz'.
    You have a right o the job you want, in the place that you want, for the pay that you want, and if anyone can do that job for less, or in a lower cost of living state, they are STEALING "your" job!

  45. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    "In 1970, the Rust Belt was responsible for nearly half of all manufacturing exports while the South produced less than a quarter," continues Winslett. "Today, the roles are reversed, it is the Rust Belt that hosts less than one-fourth of all manufactured exports and the South that exports twice what the Rust Belt does."

    These ratios mean nothing without the context of the total numbers involved.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

      There's a reason Winslett avoids any actual numbers...

  46. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "The firms targeted by executive orders and memoranda seem to stand accused of…being lawyers."

    Rudy Giuliani would like a word...

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Sullum was for that one. As well as the other Trump lawyers.

  47. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Jeff's going to be mad...

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8580315/Outrage-Germany-Afghan-migrant-rapes-two-girls.html

    Outrage in Germany after Afghan migrant who was arrested for 'raping an 11-year-old' was released after 12 days then 'raped another girl, 13'

    Note: this is a *different* Afghan migrant who raped a different 12-year old girl

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11833125/Afghan-migrant-28-deported-raping-12-year-old-girl-tried-UK.html

    Afghan migrant, 28, who tried to board a small boat to the UK this week was deported from Britain just four years ago after being jailed for raping a 12-year-old schoolgirl

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Perhaps related?

      https://babylonbee.com/news/top-baby-names-in-uk-now-muhammad-mohammed-mohamad-and-mohamed

      Top Baby Names In UK Now Muhammad, Mohammed, Mohamad, And Mohamed

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        That is a bit deceiving. Every single Muslim family names their first born male Muhammad. So, Muhammad being the most popular birth name isn't necessarily reflective of Muslim births being a majority or even close to it.

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          what happens if they don't?

          1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

            Nothing. They just all do it. It is a thing.

            1. Dillinger   2 months ago

              fascinating. certainly skews the rankings

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

              Means 'Son of (last name)', correct?

              1. Eeyore   2 months ago

                It's the name of the monkey king. Same surname as Sun Tzu.

    2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      That’s why George P Bush and Lizard Cheney didn’t advocate for interpreters when the issue initially came up around 2008. And then in 2020 Trump inexplicably allowed an Iraqi intent on assassinating Bush into the country…nothing to see here!! 😉

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Cite? Links, please.

  48. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>But there's another important point raised by Winslett: Using tariffs to try to force the reshoring of manufacturing businesses doesn't necessarily mean the Rust Belt will be reinvigorated

    nice try but the New New Order is bigger than the Rust Belt. you still don't get it.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Did they remix Blue Monday or Bizarre Love Triangle?

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        Substance is wildly underrated for the collective love story and singular songs

  49. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Progressives being full-on racist toward South African refugees, including calls to "hunt them down"

    https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2025/05/14/leftists-on-tiktok-threaten-south-african-migrants-n2412777

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      where is the University of Iowa with their America Needs Farmers helmet stickers?

      1. Eeyore   2 months ago

        I think America just needs robots. You know - to pick tomatoes in Florida?

        1. Dillinger   2 months ago

          thumbs up if they're smart enough to not plow under their crop because $11 or something

    2. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Next step for South Africa - starvation and death. It worked out great for Zimbabwe.

      Is it too harsh to say that socialists deserve to starve to death?

      1. Marshal   2 months ago

        We'll soon be donating the food to prevent famine. Why do the hard work to grow food when you can guilt others into giving it to you - which you can then resell? This is the result of "equity".

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          The rich Africans in power will just divert the food and the peons will still starve to death. The evil will become wealthier and more powerful cementing the disfunction in place for years to come. Government funding always increases corruption. Government charity always increases corruption. It is a universal law.

  50. Dillinger   2 months ago

    I was hearing this morning (R) still wants to fund sex changes with our tax dollars & I wondered if our Congressional Class uses the proverbial "kill your enemy *and* kill his kids so they don't come for you" on purpose or by trip-and-fall

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Republicans fish. That's how they know you sometimes have to let them have a little line.

      If the enemy wants to hang themselves - give them rope.

  51. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Federal employee grifters...I'm shocked, shocked!

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2025/05/13/ernst-grassley-refer-atf-bureaucrats-who-defrauded-taxpayers-for-prosecution-n2656982

    The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) allegedly bilked taxpayers out of millions of dollars in a massive human resources scheme, according to a whistleblower.

    This scheme allegedly resulted in millions of taxpayer dollars being unlawfully spent on enhanced law enforcement pay and benefits, according to the lawmakers. The DOJ and ATF have failed to respond to repeated inquiries about the matter. Now, the senators have been compelled to take further action after obtaining critical reports from a whistleblower. The Office of Special Counsel and Internal Affairs Division (IAD) detailed “gross waste, fraud, and abuse; substantial misconduct and mismanagement; abuse of power; and potential criminal misconduct” by several key officials, including Deputy Assistant Director Lisa Boykin and HR Division Chief Ralph Bittelari.

    Both the ATF HR specialist assigned to classify the position and their direct manager, Branch Chief Nina Cox, determined that the role should be classified as non-law enforcement. The report indicates that this was not a mere disagreement in interpretation; in fact, the HR classification expert explicitly warned Deputy Division Chief Kathryn Greene, Branch Chief Cox, and Division Chief Bittelari via email that the classification “is not supportable based on OPM standards and policy.” Following this warning, the classification expert recused themselves from the process and was subsequently threatened with insubordination by Deputy Division Chief Greene. Despite the expert’s objections and recusal, Bittelari proceeded to sign off on the position as law enforcement, fraudulently certifying that it was properly classified.

  52. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Some progressive cause, protest on the street? It's Soros all the way down.

    https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/05/11/datarepublican-who-is-really-behind-the-protest-thread-n2412644
    Democrats love to pretend the morons who take to the streets and encourage others to punch people are somehow an organic movement, but of course, they're not. We're finding out that nine times out of 10, someone somewhere is paying them to do it.

    And that someone is usually a Soros.

    Twitchy favorite @DataRepublican put together a thread on the violent, so-called anti-Nazi protest in New York City yesterday, and gosh, golly, gee, once again this was not organic at all.

    1. Marshal   2 months ago

      And that someone is usually a Soros.

      That someone is usually us, the taxpayers. The overwhelming majority of activists are employed by the government. Often this is direct, one of the known antifa leaders is a middle school teacher in California. But sometimes it's indirect as they are hired by NGOs funded by government. Our own government is weaponized against us using our own money. Radical activism has used this tactic since before Marx was born.

  53. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Cause and effect?

    https://www.wsj.com/health/drug-overdoses-2024-3968bc80

    Fatal Overdoses Fall to Prepandemic Levels
    Fewer U.S. deaths tied to fentanyl and other synthetic opioids fuels overall decline

    1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

      You mean not leaving the border open might cut the supply of illegal drugs being made in Mexico? That is crazy talk.

      1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

        We are running out of drug users!

      2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        Fentanyl deaths spiked in 2020 when the border was most secure in modern history.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Cite?

  54. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Got this email from DailyKos recently, at least Markos has come around to seeing the grift warehouse that is the DNC.

    P.S. I gave nothing, and did nothing, despite what he says.

    Markos Moulitsas

    From:
    info@email.dailykos.com

    You gave everything.

    You showed up. You knocked doors. You donated until it hurt.

    And the Democratic Party? They cashed your check—and handed it to worthless, parasitic consultants.

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    And we lost—

    Not because we lacked resources.
    Not because the GOP outworked us.
    But because the people running this party didn’t care if we lost—as long as they got paid.
    And they keep getting paid, campaign after campaign.
    And in return? We get Donald Trump.
    Because building real progressive infrastructure—something that lasts beyond November—doesn’t put a dime in a consultant’s pocket.

    And that is its own kind of betrayal.

    If you’re done watching your hard-earned dollars vanish into the pockets of people who don’t care if we win—fight back.

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    P.S. We gave them everything. They gave us failure—and a consultant class that always gets paid. Stop funding them. We’re the better investment.

    1. Dillinger   2 months ago

      we gave them everything now give me some?

      1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

        Markos is yesterday's news and is really angry he didn't get a cut of that billion dollars.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          And I don't see any proposals which will draw votes.
          "Permanent progressive power"? Up yours with thorns.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          Not even reason links to that guy.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        "They're grifters!! Not me though, I'm legit. Gimmee."

    2. Marshal   2 months ago

      In race after race, Democrats crushed fundraising—and still lost.
      And we lost—

      Not because we lacked resources.
      Not because the GOP outworked us.
      But because the people running this party didn’t care if we lost—as long as they got paid.
      And they keep getting paid, campaign after campaign.
      And in return? We get Donald Trump.
      Because building real progressive infrastructure—something that lasts beyond November—doesn’t put a dime in a consultant’s pocket.

      Notice he doesn't even consider that better ideas impacts the elections. It's entirely money vs institutional commitment and loyalty.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Of course not. If Markos admitted that, he'd have to admit that his progressive philosophy is flawed.

    3. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      Remember when you voted for Bush/Cheney and they won?? That was weird, right??

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        I suspect, but can't be sure, that you're another of SPB2's sock accounts. If so, you are the biggest Bushpig in these comments.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Cite, with links, please, dipshit?

  55. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>The gender-swapping movie executives are coming for James Bond now

    more subtle move would be Mulvaney as the next Bond Girl.

    1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

      Make James Bond a guy who is "nonbionary" and able to pass as a hot woman. Posing as a hot woman could be part of his spy skills.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        isn't that The Crying Game?

        1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

          Come to think of it, it is. Hey, remakes are all they make these days anyway.

          1. Dillinger   2 months ago

            Mulvaney as the next Bond Girl is The Crying Game too I realized after I posted.

            1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

              You actually could make a female James Bond work and work better than some of the later male Bonds. The thing with Bond is that he is smart and gets out of situations with his charisma and brains rather than his brawn. The reason why the villains never kill him straight out and instead leave him to die in some elaborate mechanism that he always escapes is that they secretly love the guy and want him to be on their side. They don't really want to kill him.

              This is why in many ways Daniel Craig is the worst James Bond. Craig is just a thug. He is a killer. No one would secretly want Craig to change sides. They would just shoot him in the head the first chance they had because they knew that was what he was going to do to them. There is no subtlety to Craig.

              When you think of Bond that way, a beautiful woman would be a great James Bond. The villains don't really want to kill her. They want to bang her. She doesn't use brawn to get out of situations because she doesn't have any. She uses her brains and her charm.

              Hollywood could never make a female James Bond because they would make her girl boss and just have a woman acting like a man. If Hollywood still understood and knew how to write female characters, rather than just male characters who happen to be played by women actors, a woman James Bond could be very good.

              1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                fair enough. Craig was boring in comparison yes.

                1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

                  Craig can't act. For the life of me I don't understand how Craig became a star and Liam Niessen ended up doing B movie action flicks. Niessen is just Daniel with actual acting ability.

                  1. Dillinger   2 months ago

                    true.

                  2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    Are you saying Liam has a certain set of skills?

                    1. VinniUSMC   2 months ago

                      Skills he's acquired over a very long career?

                    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

                      There it is.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

                Thing is, Bond was actually paired with Bond Girls who did get by on their charm and wits in a number of the movies, from Pussy Galore (now there's a name - Goldfinger) to Wai Lin (Tomorrow Never Dies), with many of them, including Wai Lin, being spies for other nations. Thus, one can say that there have been "female James Bonds" already as they have been paired with James Bond. At other times, Bond gets his bacon saved by the Bond Girl, examples below:

                * Melina shoots a man chasing Bond out of Gonzales's compound in For Your Eyes Only.
                * Pam helping Bond escape a couple of times as well as being helped quite a bit in License to Kill.
                * Without Wai Lin, Bond would never have escaped Carver's building in Vietnam in Tomorrow Never Dies.
                * Without Natalya's computer knowledge, there is no way Bond finishes anything in Goldeneye.
                * Dr. Goodhead (yet another one of those names) is the shuttle pilot in Moonraker.

          2. mad.casual   2 months ago

            OK, here it is:

            The larger story around Mrs. Doubtfire is that Robin Williams' character is really a sleeper agent/asset, a Manchurian Candidate or in WitSec, and MI-6 are worried the divorce will cause total recall and expose whatever secrets Williams' character has or would get him killed. Pierce is actually Bond, working undercover, trying, and to a degree failing, to maintain Williams' identity while working the family back to a stable relationship.

            1. Dillinger   2 months ago

              bomb sequel I wish someone had thought of it

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I could perhaps accept a well-executed female 007 story (e.g., Bond retires from his 007 roles in the opening scene and is introduced to the next 007 on his way out the door.

      But not a "Bond, Jane Bond...". They'd have to take it out a whole new door for me to accept it.

      1. Dillinger   2 months ago

        Miss Moneypenny's role quickly redefined ...

  56. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    The gender-swapping movie executives

    Hollywood needs to follow Tom Cruise's example. Just make action bangers with a straight male lead and no woke messaging and you'll make a billion dollars. Even the BIPOCs and alphabet people will go to your movie.

    1. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Tom Cruise is already a cunt, so he doesn't need to add any more to his films.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

        I dont care if he's a cunt the movies are way better than most of the hollywood woke shit.

  57. Dillinger   2 months ago

    >>The firms targeted by executive orders and memoranda seem to stand accused of…being lawyers.

    yes and sometimes significant consequences for being lawyers happen. if yin then yang, penduli swing, worms turn, etc.

  58. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "In 1970 the Rust Belt was responsible for nearly half of all manufacturing exports while the South produced less than a quarter. Today, the roles are reversed, it is the Rust Belt that hosts less than one-fourth of all manufactured exports and the South that exports twice what the Rust Belt does."

    I think SOMEONE needs to read "How to Lie with Statistics" here! When discussing the narrative about the decline of American manufacturing and the Rust Belt, the relevant data are ABSOLUTE, not PERCENTAGES. If we had the same amount of production for export in toto now as we had in 1970, then the statement is correct. But if the southeast has the same or less production as it did in 1970 while the Rust Belt declined to its current relative proportion, then the statement is false - or at least misleading. People who write articles or interview experts should at least understand the flaws propounded by the experts.

  59. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    The South Stole Your Job

    Proof tha NAFTA had nothing to do with the decline of the Rust Belt.

    So another Fatass Donnie false narrative is crushed.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      It's not pRoOF. It's some dickhead's evidenceless opinion in the WaPo.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

        Donnie is a populist jackass like Bernie Sanders is. They are both central-planner progressives like you admire.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          They are both central-planner progressives like you admire.

          Aren't you a founding member of Libertarians for the Federal Reserve?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

            Yes. Independent central bank.

            Don't trust Congress and sure as hell don't trust any POTUS with money.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              A libertarian, you ain't.

            2. Mother's Lament - (Sarc's a Nazi, not even joking)   2 months ago

              "Yes. Independent central bank."

              Add 'independent' to the big list of words that Pluggo doesn't know the meaning of.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

            Remember when you were happy with the policies of Bush/Cheney/Hastert?? That was weird, right??

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

              Remember that time you got your original SPB account permabanned here for posting child porn links? That was weird, right??

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  60. DeAnnP   2 months ago

    Hmm, so is this why Southern states are relaxing child labor laws?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 months ago

      What do you lefty cunts have against teenagers working a job? Will that take away too much time from your bullshit marxist activism?

      1. DeAnnP   2 months ago

        We aren't talking working at the local movie theater type of jobs. Think meat-packing, etc. Also, did you know there is a waiver to allow 14 year olds to work adult jobs/hours due to "hardship"? So when the CEOs are still making $30 million annually and not paying grown ass adults enough, Ma and Pa can pull Jr. out of school to help contribute. U$A U$A

        1. mad.casual   2 months ago

          So when the CEOs are still making $30 million annually and not paying grown ass adults enough, Ma and Pa can pull Jr. out of school to help contribute. U$A U$A

          You would prefer the bureaucrats get rich while CEOs create fewer jobs and Ma, Pa, and Jr. all stand in bread lines starving to death?

          1. DeAnnP   2 months ago

            "You would prefer the bureaucrats get rich while CEOs create fewer jobs and Ma, Pa, and Jr. all stand in bread lines starving to death?"

            What I would prefer is grown ass adults get paid enough to support their family so the kid, who should be in school, does not have to. Seriously, if mofos like Musk, Gates, insert any other billionaire name here, have enough money to spend 20+ million to donate to political campaigns and buy off politicians, they can afford a god damn wealth tax so we can be a functioning country for EVERYONE. Tell me, when you are fellating the billionaires, do their dicks taste like money?

        2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Ironically this was Bidens plan to help meat packing plants by having under 16 illegals working in plants.

          Irony.

          1. DeAnnP   2 months ago

            Sure Jan

        3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          My son worked in my shop when he was nine years old. I don't remember making 30 million at the time. And he makes more money now than I ever dreamed of after 50 years of work. Why exactly shouldn't a 14 year old work in a meat packing plant if it's worth their while? I guarantee those kids will be far more successful when they're 30 than the coddled cry babies that have no clue what work actually is.

          1. DeAnnP   2 months ago

            I am not speaking of situations like yours and you know it.

        4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          There are about 50,000 CEOs in the US. Only 60 or so have total compensation in excess of $30M, with 65% of total compensation being from stock options (and hence may be worth more or less than the quoted value on any given day). Around 1000 have total compensation in excess of $1M. These are the CEOs of some of the largest companies in the world.

          The vast majority of CEOs run much, much smaller businesses and take home much much more balanced salaries. Many CEOs running very small mom&pop corporations take home essentially $0 because they take care of their workers first.

        5. Diarrheality   2 months ago

          I split wood at a sawmill when I was eleven, and worked as a hod carrier when I was thirteen. Miraculously, I survived to start my own business and retire very comfortably at forty-five. Don't really remember bitching incessantly about some faceless CEO--probably because working put more money in my pocket than bitching.

  61. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    Halle Berry: "I don't know if [James Bond] should be a woman. In 2025 it's nice to say, 'Oh, he should be a woman.'

    Octopussy was certainly a fan favorite.

    1. Don't look at me! (This post comes with a 10% tariff)   2 months ago

      Yeah, it came in at #24

      https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/guide/james-bond-movies/

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

        Wasn't referring to the movie.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          Right. The "pussy" you like leads to the digestive tract.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  62. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Gotta love the Bee:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-demand-to-know-who-was-responsible-for-covering-up-bidens-decline

    Furious Democrats Demand To Know Who Was Responsible For Covering Up Biden's Decline

    WASHINGTON, D.C. — Democrats in Congress have angrily demanded answers as to who repeatedly lied to the American people in order to cover up former President Biden's cognitive decline.

    Faced with a fresh set of overwhelming evidence that Biden could no longer function by the end of his term, Democrats sought to know who was responsible for engaging in widespread deception to allow a mentally incapacitated man to remain the most powerful person in the world.

    "Who would do this?" cried Senator Chuck Schumer, hands clenched in fury. "Someone has attempted to perpetrate the largest, most brazen political cover up in American history, and I will not rest until they are discovered. These disgusting, shameless liars must explain themselves to the American public."

    With aides anonymously confirming that Biden was often incoherent, could not recognize old friends, and would soon not be able to walk, Democrats were left furious as to why no one spoke up. "If people would lie about the mental incompetence of the man trusted with nuclear codes, how could we ever trust them about anything again?" said Representative Hakeem Jeffries. "The people who had the audacity to blame Biden's actions on a stutter, a cold, or 'deepfakes' must be brought to justice."

    At publishing time, Democrats had also demanded to know who had worked to cover up the raging alcoholism of former Vice President Kamala Harris.

    1. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      I knew Biden couldn’t last another 4 years and I still voted for him over Trump…very easy decision.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Cite, with links?

  63. JFree   2 months ago

    The Rust Belt decline shouldn't just be about manufacturing. It should be about the wanton destruction of cities.

    In 1950, the 18 largest cities each had over 500,000 people. Of those cities, only 4 (NYC, LA, SF, Houston - no surprise all ports) have increased in population to 2020. 14 lost population - ranging from small losses (Boston, DC) to ginormous (Detroit, Baltimore, Cleveland, St Louis).

    None of those died 'normal' deaths. None of them declined simply by residents moving to suburbs in otherwise slow/stable growth. We killed them - deliberately. By redlining them to eliminate financing, zoning them to eliminate job-producing areas outside of the commuting downtown, obliterating the redline areas to build highways, further gut the neighborhoods to build public housing monstrosities, and finally so destroy the land-value that a high % of the DOWNTOWN in those cities is now parking lot.

    Only carpet bombing would have been a more effective plan to obliterate all the value and wealth that was made to create those cities up to 1950. And it ain't partisan though I'm sure that will be the bs that prevails among the commentariat here. The whole thing was completely bipartisan and could only have succeeded BECAUSE it was universal.

    1. Sun Wukong   2 months ago

      You forgot "destroyed the schools with forced busing". The decline of the public schools drove people out of the cities as much as any other factor.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Thank you. See cross district bussing in Detroit. Destroyed the city and the suburbs. Doesn't seem it will ever recover. You really can't look at the hollowing out of the Rust belt and ignore the role of the federal courts.

      2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

        That was a big factor in metros because the 1970 census reflects it all over the country. But Detroit added population in the 1990s and so I think had we switched to universal health care in 1980 much of the Rust Belt losses of the 1980s could have been avoided. The losses in the 2000s though were from the energy crisis and China Shock which were related. Since 2010 we’ve added manufacturing jobs.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

          You lie as much as your other sock.

          Detroit did not add population in the 1990s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographic_history_of_Detroit

      3. charliehall   2 months ago

        Baltimore never had forced busing. It had fully desegregated its schools in 1955. It had few yellow school buses -- students were given transit passes. And for years it had a school choice plan that basically let any student attend almost any public school in the city, subject to capacity limits, except for some single sex schools and some magnet schools. In recent years it brought back a similar choice program.

    2. Sam Bankman-Fried   2 months ago

      Much of it has to do with employer provided insurance…so once the Big 3 determined paying overtime was more economical than hiring an additional worker there was a ripple effect with the communities needing fewer nurses and teachers and waitresses. Employer provided health insurance worked until it didn’t….and 1980 is when it stopped working.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Did the penguin tell you to do this?)   2 months ago

        Cite, motherfucker?

    3. charliehall   2 months ago

      "only 4 (NYC, LA, SF, Houston - no surprise all ports) have increased in population to 2020"

      Indeed and the rest of the country should look to them as to what to do right. NYC's biggest problem today is too many people for the available housing, but the City Council, led by Progressive Democrats, upzoned the entire city late last year, with every Republican member voting no. NYC had over 900,000 more people in 2020 than in 1950 -- approximately the population of Columbus, OH (which had seen a population increase of 240% since 1950, despite being in a rust belt state).

      One asterisk: Houston has annexed many of its suburbs, so while it has grown enormously, much of that wasn't Houston in 1950.

  64. charliehall   2 months ago

    "Alabama, South Carolina, Georgia and Tennessee"

    48th, 47th, 26th, and 32nd in per capita GDP among US states and the District of Columbia.

    Maybe low wage manufacturing isn't the key to prosperity, contrary to MAGA.

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