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Tariffs

3 Myths About Tariffs

"If this is the end of my American dream," says one small business owner, "I'm going to go down swinging."

John Stossel | 5.14.2025 12:30 AM

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Last month, President Donald Trump proudly announced, "Liberation Day!…The day American industry was reborn!"

Reborn because of his tariffs, which he called, "the most beautiful word in the dictionary."

This is just wrong.

The first time he was president, Trump raised tariffs on steel. That helped American steelmakers. They hired 1,000 more workers. Yippee.

But more American companies make things out of steel. They were hurt. The result: America lost about 75,000 jobs.

Gain a thousand jobs, lose 75,000. Doesn't sound like "liberation" to me.

Former President Joe Biden didn't learn the lesson. He increased Trump's tariffs.

That's Myth 1: Tariffs protect American jobs.

Myth 2: We need tariffs because America runs trade deficits with other countries.

We do run deficits. Our trade deficit with China so far this year is more than $70 billion.

So what? I run a trade deficit with my supermarket. I give them money. They never give me money.

That's fine. It's freedom. The economy sorts it out.

There's nothing bad about a trade deficit or good about a surplus. America ran a trade surplus during the Great Depression.

Myth 3: We need tariffs because global trade hollowed out America's manufacturing base.

I hear that all the time, from politicians, comments on my X feed, and media commentators.

"Disastrous economic policies have hollowed out the manufacturing base, sending jobs and production overseas," influencer Mario Nawfal posted on X.

"Large and persistent annual U.S. goods trade deficits have led to the hollowing out of our manufacturing base," reads a White House fact sheet.

It's silly. They're just wrong.

American industrial output is near an all-time high.

Unemployment, now at 4.2 percent, is much lower than it was when I grew up.

Politicians never learn. In 1930, at the start of what became the Great Depression, clueless legislators Reed Smoot and Willis Hawley got Congress to pass what became known as the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act.

"It deepened and lengthened the Depression," writes the Foundation for Economic Education.

Still, Trump is right to complain about countries that put nasty tariffs on American goods. In my new video, his press secretary points out that "Canada…[imposes a] nearly 300 percent tariff…[on] American cheese and butter…India, a 150 percent tariff on American alcohol."

This mostly hurts Canadian and Indian consumers, but it also hurts American businesses.

Seems sensible, then, for Trump to pressure those countries and get them to lower their tariffs.

And Trump says he's making deals! He got China to reduce tariffs to 10 percent.

But China charged 8 percent before Trump raised tariffs during his first term. Sigh.

Some countries, in response to Trump's moves, raised their tariffs. Canada announced retaliatory tariffs on $107 billion worth of U.S. goods.

Some small business owners, some with the help of the Liberty Justice Center, have sued Trump, arguing that his use of emergency powers to enact the fees was illegal.

"If this is the end of my American dream," says one, "I'm going to go down swinging."

Wine importer Victor Schwartz says there's only one way out for Trump.

"Admit you made a bad decision and let's move on. That's what we do in business all the time. Free trade is really a beautiful thing."

It is. We rarely notice how it enriches us, but it does. By bringing in cheaper goods and services from all around the world, it lets American workers specialize in areas where Americans do things best.

That leaves almost all of us better off.

Politicians should leave that alone.

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  1. Otto Penn, American President 2021-2025   2 months ago

    At least Stossel comes by his aversion to tariffs honestly.

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      Eh? So do almost all economists. Trump comes by his love of tariffs from a state of ignorance.

      For all the Trump fans crowing about his two recent "wins", here are two critiques:

      https://substack.com/@jklund/note/c-116758557

      Since taking office, Trump has levied several "tranches" of tariffs on Americans who buy Chinese goods. These can be grouped as follows:

      1) 20% on all Chinese goods (The "fentanyl" tariffs.)

      2) +10% on all Chinese goods* (The "Baseline" tariff)

      3) +24% on all Chinese goods* (The "Reciprocal** tariff)

      4) +91% on all Chinese goods* (The "Excalation" tariffs.)

      China responded to the "fentanyl" tariffs with levies of 10-15% on $34 billion of American goods. China also responded, dollar for dollar, to the "baseline," "reciprocal," and "escalation" tariff tranches, up to 125 percent.

      Here is the important part:

      What the US and China agreed to do was to temporarily drop the "escalation" and "reciprocal" tariff tranches, but both get to keep the 10 percent "baseline" AND "fentanyl" levies. But the way the White House is reporting the numbers makes it appear China lowered its tariffs more than the US; that is not what happened. The White House lumped the "fentanyl" tranche with the "baseline" tranche for the US...but didn't do the same for China.

      What this means is that China, the only country thus far to retaliate against Trump's "reciprocal" tariffs, is getting the SAME 10 percent rate and 90-day pause as every other country.

      I am not complaining, it's a positive development, but this is not a "win," it's a capitulation on the US end. As I predicted, the US was unable to hold its ground against Chinese retaliation. But it also means that Chinese tariffs on American goods are still MUCH higher than they were just a few months ago under Biden. In fact, they are much higher than they were in March.

      https://substack.com/@jklund/note/c-115747024

      First, they tout greater market access, with UK tariffs on American goods falling from 5.1 to 1.8 percent. Except, UK tariffs were not 5.1 percent. That number refers to the EU’s maximum allowed rate under WTO rules. The true rate was more like 0.5%. The increased access to the UK market is de minimis, at best.

      Second, the tariff revenue is referred to as "external revenue." I will say this again: AMERICANS PAY THE TAX. Tariffs are collected at the time of importing, it's INTERNAL REVENUE. To pretend otherwise is a blatant lie.

      Third, Trump personally intervened to lower the tax rate on imported luxury vehicles from the UK, namely Rolls-Royce, Jaguars, and Land Rovers. So, am I to understand that luxury vehicles that most Americans cannot afford deserve a lower tax rate than imported Hondas, Hyundais, and Toyotas?

      Once again, we see the distortionary problems with tariffs and why they open the door to crony capitalism that is destructive to economic growth and human prosperity.

      So, in sum, for virtually zero benefit to American exporters, Americans gained the "privilege" of paying higher taxes, while the super wealthy gain exemptions from those taxes.

      This isn't a "deal" that favors Americans; it's a tax increase on the middle and lower class cloaked as a "win" for them. If this is the first of many deals to come, we can expect lower economic growth in the US, with the damage lasting a generation.

      1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

        Thanks SGT!

        Prepare for foam-at-the-mouth Trumpists to now call you "leftist", "icky poo", "deluded", and "retarded". Thus, they will "refute" twat ye say!

        1. Rob Misek   2 months ago

          Trump lied like a Jew, bluffed and folded.

          Trump has no cards to play.

          1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

            Trump still has more hateful, racist, scapegoating lies to play... Have YOU been giving Him lessons?

            1. Rob Misek   2 months ago

              Correction. Has “Jew” been giving him lessons? The answer to that is undoubtedly yes, for his whole rotten life.

              Demonstrated by his support, funding and arming of their hateful, racist genocide in Gaza, further cementing the US role as pariah on the world’s stage.

          2. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

            Rob, this argument of yours is dead among even many liberals.
            We can't have China controlling our medicine, our steel and lumber,
            even Biden's INSANE solar plans that hand our infrastructure over to the Chinese

            China dominates the global solar supply chain, with some estimates suggesting it controls over 80% of the production process, from raw materials to finished modules. This dominance extends to key stages like polysilicon, ingots, wafers, cells, and modules
            AND
            BLM proposes opening 31M acres of public land to solar development
            The updated Western Solar Plan proposal expands potential development by 9 million acres beyond the agency’s original proposal

            I know we share no first principles so we can't discuss. I am just putting out there what you are supporting

            1. Rob Misek   2 months ago

              When China kicks your ass, you no longer support a “free market.”

              So what makes you better than any other communist?

      2. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

        You are a retard. You are perfectly fine with protectionist tariffs from other countries on the US reducing available US markets but also demand we do not use reciprocal tariffs to remove those negative impediments to "free trade" you pretend to care about while actively opposing any steps towards it.

        1. SQRLSY   2 months ago

          So if other nations are utterly stupid and tax the shit out of their peons, for no good reasons, we should do the same? We will WIN by tariff-taxing OUR peons more than they tariff-tax THEIR peons? 'Cause THAT is exactly twat Trump is doing!

          Does one "win" a cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face cuntest by cutting off one's nose, better and faster? Or perhaps better by SNOT playing the stupid game?

        2. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

          You are a hypocrite. If borders are sacrosanct, then other countries' tariffs are their business. If you think their tariffs are our business, then you must also think our tariffs are their business.

          You don't have any more economic sense or understanding than Trump or any other of his sycophants.

        3. Zeb   2 months ago

          Oh, for fuck's sake. This is a legitimate debate. It's not retarded to take up the position that lots of economists and other smart people hold. They may be wrong. But Trump may also be wrong and his plan might suck (whatever it turns out to be). We don't know. We don't even really know what Trump's plan is here. Does he want lots of protectionist tariffs? Or is this some grand negotiating tactic?

          1. mad.casual   2 months ago

            Stupid isn't debating. He's hurling other people's opinions around without any context, defense, or even comprehension.

            If you argue back or ask him about a potential distinctions between what is said at his source, what Reason and others commonly assert and he, presumably, is aware of by quoting the source, he calls you a coward and tells you to go ask the Substack.

      3. SRG2   2 months ago

        Precisely so.

  2. JFree   2 months ago

    I run a trade deficit with my supermarket. I give them money. They never give me money.

    Holy shit. Is this really the level of thought you are trying to sell?

    A 25 minute video on Triffin's dilemma which explains the jam the US (as reserve currency issuer) is in now. And it explains the gut understanding of what has been happening to the US - our manufacturing base, the Rust Belt, financialization and bubbles rewarding asset owners - that everyone who's been 'left out' understands.

    Doesn't mean 'Trump's' (Miren) plan - Mar A Lago Accord - to solve it is going to work. It won't. And the execution of that plan is the most colossally stupid self-pwn I've ever seen. But it would be useful for 'libertarians' to at least pretend to understand how economics works since they stick markets on a pedestal.

    1. Alberto Balsalm   2 months ago

      Yes, this is a comprehensive explanation of the problem the US is facing and is what competent leaders should be analyzing and addressing. I think that another big reason the US doesn't produce anything anymore is corporatism. If you want this country to produce stuff, make it easier for people to start businesses and pay workers. I believe that just severing the tie between health insurance and your job would increase productivity in this country tremendously. Stop handouts to corporations, i.e. tax benefits, unfair resource allocation etc. Pass smart bills that level the playing field domestically and abroad and we might miss the doom vortex. Also curious of your thoughts of using crypto as a reserve currency (i realize the transition would be disastrous or a disaster would be the cause of the transition).

      1. JFree   2 months ago

        imo - crypto offers three things ('storage' of surplus electricity; proven demand from grifters, techbros, NorKo thieves; an excellent means to disintermediate institutions)

        But really that just means the next reserve currency will be on block chain. Not that existing owners of particular existing tokens will control the future.

        1. Alberto Balsalm   2 months ago

          But really that just means the next reserve currency will be on block chain.

          Seems likely. How and when that eventually happens will be interesting.

    2. Roberta   2 months ago

      This is why I've been telling people for years that the deep and persistent trade deficits are not the cause of a problem, but the symptom of one — and that it's a problem for the world, not just the USA.

    3. SRG2   2 months ago

      I had to stop watching after 4 minutes because it was sooo slooooow. I did not form the impression in those 4 minutes that he knew more about FX than me.

      The USD is not the world's reserve currency because the US deemed it so, but because being the largest importer and exporter, and with a generally long-term solid economy (pre-Trump II) the currency is the most liquid. - which among other things makes it cheaper to finance the deficit, and makes trade deficits almost inevitable.

      FWIW You don't resolve the Triffin Dilemma by fiat, by tariffs, or, as Trump has done, by threatening other countries which want to set up their own reserve system, as the BRICS are interested in doing.

  3. Speaking for normal people   2 months ago

    I like Stossel, always will, but this piece founders on first principles.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lgp2QAHCQ6g

  4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'So what? I run a trade deficit with my supermarket. I give them money. They never give me money.'

    Let us know when your supermarket funds military occupations and threatens war with you and your neighbors.

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      Let us know when tariffs and trade wars are the best response.

      1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

        The best response to the MISTAKE of unlimited spending/debt and costly regulation is *equal* tax and regulation be it foreign or domestic.

        It's not to shovel all the spending off on Domestic and escape-routing supply chains to other nations because there is no wealth in dependency and debt.

      2. mad.casual   2 months ago

        So if your supermarket does threaten war with your neighbors and fund military occupations, you keep shopping there and raving about how good it is that you can buy cheap shit from them?

        Lemme guess, when your neighbors try and point out how rabidly insane that is to you, you shout "I'M NOT THE ONE SUFFERING FROM TDS! *YOU'RE* THE ONE SUFFERING FROM TDS! EVERYONE IS SUFFERING FROM TDS EQUALLY!" at them don't you?

  5. TJJ2000   2 months ago

    Myth 1: Tariffs protect American jobs
    Myth 2: We need tariffs because America runs trade deficits
    Myth 3: We need tariffs because global trade hollowed out America's manufacturing

    Fact 1: Taxes and Domestic Regulations has killed American Jobs.
    Fact 2: America runs trade deficits because it doesn't CREATE enough Value.
    Fact 3: Taxes and Domestic Regulations has hollowed out American Manufacturing.

    So excuse me if I call BS.....
    Until Domestic Manufacturing is getting 0-Taxes and 0-Regluation.
    Until the National Debt is balanced and there is no longer a Trade-Deficit.

    Because at the end of the day Trade (CC-Deficits) =/= Wealth.
    And ^THAT^ BS right there is line being sold to simple minds.
    Never a need to get a job making VALUE just put it all on the CC.

    1. Zeb   2 months ago

      Then why are we talking about tariffs and not about reducing domestic taxes and regulations? Trump is doing something about regulations. And the tax cuts are a good start (though they need a lot more spending cuts to go with them). But we need a lot more of both. I will always favor trying first to fix problems by addressing our own policies that contribute by repealing them or replacing them with something less coercive. First get out of the way. Don't start by erecting more barriers and coercive measures on Americans. Start by making Americans free to do business and innovate.

      1. SRG2   2 months ago

        Don't bother. TJJ is a monomaniacal fuckwit.

        1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

          ^How leftards do 'economics'? LOL....

      2. TJJ2000   2 months ago

        "Then why are we talking about tariffs and not about reducing domestic taxes and regulations?"
        "Trump is doing something about regulations. And the tax cuts are a good start"
        "Start by making Americans free to do business and innovate."
        ^EXACTLY.....

        Shoveling the $36,000,000,000,000 DEBT under the rug and ignoring-it isn't a plausible answer either.

  6. GroundTruth   2 months ago

    CCP and its minions buy our paper (or digital) money with tangible stuff. Remind me who the fool is?

    1. JFree   2 months ago

      What do they buy with those pieces of paper? Land, housing, ownership of companies and all other assets.

      1. GroundTruth   2 months ago

        True. But then, that is trade too, isn't it? So either there is a cash deficit when you look at the total, or there is a more balance because they are then buying our stuff (that we are willingly selling them).

        If the purpose is to make sure that the jobs and ability to produce stay here, we might consider what the Swiss do with agriculture: they want to be able to produce all the food they need, but the market will not pay for it, so the Swiss federal government subsidizes Swiss farmers. I'm not saying I like the idea, but at least it's honest about where the problem lies.

        1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

          "that [we] are willingly selling them"??? ... like Government Bonds/Securities of which China holds $784B + Interest literally putting every American under a mountain of debt to LABOR for China.

          When Government makes 'debt' like this - it isn't a *willingly selling* China your Labors; it is Government willingly selling your labors.

  7. Pyrrho   2 months ago

    I find it mystifying that no one mentions the contribution Smoot-Hawley made to World War II.

    Japan has half the population of the US in approximately the area of California, about 7-8% of which is arable. JAPAN MUST TRADE TO SURVIVE. Smoot-Hawley effectively told the country to drop dead. There was famine; families were selling some of their children into slavery to get a little bit of money so that maybe the rest could survive.

    So what Japan did was to emulate the Western powers in Asia and took what it needed by force, calling it the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

    Germany was also very hard hit, relying as it did on exports to the US to pay off its war debt. The tariff led to widespread unemployment and hunger. It was easy for Hitler to make the case that the whole world was out to get Germany.

    1. Ezra MacVie   2 months ago

      Hitler's case was vindicated by the worldwide Jewish-led Boycott Germany program, launched in 1933.

    2. SQRLSY   2 months ago

      Germans had some pretty damned good excuses (being subjected to REAL suffering, hideous inflation, and unjust blame for being the SOLE cause of WW I, and having to pay reparations), in odor to erect Shitler to power, to gain REVENGE (aka "JUSTICE", in German eyes).

      Twat excuses do Trumpanzees have for erecting Dear Orange Leader into a Dick-Tator-Shit?!?!? Into giving Him Dick-Shit-Oral Powers? They have suffered SOOO horribly badly, knowing that someone, somewhere, might enjoy a Drag Queen Show, or LOW tariff-taxes?!?!?

      Yes, your sympathy for old-time Germans and Japanese is well-placed, in many ways. We should at least try to understand, and LEARN from history!

      1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

        [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] always do find 'excuses' to use Gun FORCE to try and TAKE what they want. If you haven't LEARNED that from history you're purposely being ignorant.

  8. Ezra MacVie   2 months ago

    Politicians can't afford to learn the lessons about tariffs. Voters won't let them.
    Ignorance is a renewable resource.

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      Politicians can't afford to learn the lessons about *spending* and *tyrannical-regulation*.
      Democrat Voters won't let them.
      Ignorance is a renewable resource.

  9. SQRLSY   2 months ago

    So if other nations are utterly stupid and tax the shit out of their peons, for no good reasons, we should do the same? We will WIN by tariff-taxing OUR peons more than they tariff-tax THEIR peons? 'Cause THAT is exactly twat Trump is doing!

    Does one "win" a cut-off-your-nose-to-spite-your-face cuntest by cutting off one's nose, better and faster? Or perhaps better by SNOT playing the stupid game?

    Ooops, duplicunt, replicunt cumment... I don't know, sometimes, how shit happens...

    1. TJJ2000   2 months ago

      SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND..................
      But, but, but ...... Don't Charge Us! /s

      The very mentality and fall of every [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire on the planet.

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