The Case for Eliminating Energy Star
The program is beyond the proper scope of the federal government.

On Friday, President Donald Trump released his budget proposal, which included targeted cuts to federal clean energy programs and ending funding to what the president calls "the Green New Scam." The Trump administration is now shifting its focus to energy efficiency programs. CNN reported Tuesday that the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) plans to shutter the Energy Star program.
First launched under President George H.W. Bush in 1992, Energy Star sets voluntary energy efficiency standards for appliances and buildings. Products that meet the program's standards are allowed to display the Energy Star label, which is recognized by 90 percent of American households, according to the program's website. The program also helps homeowners utilize federal energy efficiency tax credits.
Energy Star says it has saved consumers more than $500 billion in energy costs since 1992, with $42 billion saved in 2020 alone. The use of Energy Star products has also prevented 4 billion tons of greenhouse gas (GHG) emissions from entering the atmosphere, according to the EPA. The EPA says the estimated annual market value of Energy Star product sales is $100 billion.
While the EPA has not confirmed that it will ax Energy Star, industry groups are lobbying the agency to keep the program intact.
"Eliminating the Energy Star program would directly contradict this administration's promise to reduce household energy costs," Paula Glover, president of Alliance to Save Energy (a nonprofit that has lobbied to keep Energy Star in the past), told CNN. A coalition of appliance manufacturers and HVAC and boiler companies sent a letter to the EPA saying that eliminating the program "will not serve the American people," reports NOTUS.
This is not the first time that Trump has proposed ending the popular program. In 2017, the president floated cutting Energy Star but the plan was halted after more than 1,000 organizations implored Congress to protect the program.
Despite having a relatively small budget—the program costs about $50 million per year and represents less than 1 percent of the EPA's spending—and being one of the "most innocuous" government programs, there are reasons to reconsider Energy Star, Nick Loris, vice president of public policy at the free market energy think tank C3 Solutions, tells Reason.
"In an age of information and where the cost of getting that information is pretty low, consumers readily have access to the many different attributes they value in the product. And the product manufacturers can still advertise the energy savings from their products" without a federal program, says Loris.
A March white paper from the Competitive Enterprise Institute on modernizing the EPA says "green purchasing programs" like Energy Star "assume the federal government needs to meddle in the marketplace by providing its seal of approval on what it deems to be environmentally satisfactory products." The paper continues, arguing, "If consumers demand certain information, then businesses will respond by disseminating this information to them." If a labeling system is needed, "then private certification organizations should play such a role."
The Cato Institute, meanwhile, has called Energy Star "a very coarse piece of energy information that may crowd out efforts" to develop more accurate ways to measure energy operating costs.
Despite the benefits that Energy Star has provided to consumers and the environment, the program is yet another example of the government doing a job that the private sector could do better. Cutting the program may not substantially reduce federal spending, but it would reduce federal creep in consumer choices.
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I wonder if AI farms are Energy Star rated?
My new hot water heater uses half the energy. However, it takes 3x longer to heat the same volume of water as the old one. Efficiency!
I didn't come here for a math quiz.
Math is white supremacy.
Ahhh but you only have to replace the new ones every 5 years, the old ones only lasted 25
Yes, but each star represents how many nuke plants are needed.
Imagine if Trump eliminated this. Would we be treated to 16 paragraph polemics on how he needed to involve Congress and a decades-long rigorous due-processey interpretive dance?
I can't believe the anti-globalist, anti-free trade bastard has the gall to remove the Energy Star label from cheap products manufactured in China according to EPA specifications. Can't he see that's not what consumers want?
The water company fears people will no longer have to flush twice!
Lo-Flo toilets……
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4f0MeoV5pQ
LOL! Nice job channeling jeffsarc.
https://www.engadget.com/big-tech/trump-admin-announces-plans-to-shut-down-the-energy-star-program-184846271.html
My dishwasher didn't get due process. And if I bitch to the manufacturer about sub standard performance all I get is "hey buddy this is Energy Star rated". If I ask what that means exactly they're all like "talk to the chatbot. You should have thought about this shit before you voted for Bush". If I patiently explain that I voted Libertarian chatbot responds "oh you're a one percenter huh? Just fuck off buddy. Go ahead and sue. We'll slap your ass with an anti slapp and you'll be living in a van down by the river".
The irony is that your dishwasher is here legally, while those gang banger illegals are not.
industry groups are lobbying the agency to keep the program intact.
"Eliminating the Energy Star program would directly contradict this administration's promise to reduce household energy costs," Paula Glover, president of Alliance to Save Energy (a nonprofit that has lobbied to keep Energy Star in the past), told CNN. A coalition of appliance manufacturers and HVAC and boiler companies sent a letter to the EPA saying that eliminating the program "will not serve the American people," reports NOTUS.
Uh... this would seem to be one "industry group", the other would appear to be just a lobbying organization.
And I wonder how these groups, their employees, and/or their employee unions feel about the tariffs.
A coalition of appliance manufacturers and HVAC and boiler companies sent a letter to the EPA saying that eliminating the program
Without EnergyStar, we'll use 15% more energy to do the job in half the time at 75% of the cost! And that's bad for the consumer!
we'll use 15% more energy to do the job in half the time
Back to something more like real equality between someone washing dishes and someone servicing the dish washer.
Thank God. I had to get my mother a new washer recently. It’s a pice of crap. The old one completed the it’s programmed cycle in just over 40 minutes. The new one does it in about 75 minutes. And it doesn’t clean as well.
I replaced my ancient water heater when it died with a newer energy star compliant one. Had to install all new ventilation stuff to make it compliant. My utility bills went up immediately after. My guess is the energy star rating is mostly bullshit. All the extra safety features added up over the years add inefficiencies.
It is. The manufacturer gets to determine the 'default' setting, and that is what is judged for the energy star rating. You'd never set it to their default, because you'd only have tepid water at that low heat setting.
We recently learned this with both a new dishwasher and also washing machine; the "normal" setting is simply sucking up to the EPA. OTOH, the self heating cycles are amazing, reaching pasteurizing temperatures in the dishwasher, and hot enough on the washing machine that even a few teaspoons of bleach really clobbers the crud.
There is also the liability issue surrounding scalding for why they set them low as a default.
Let's back it up one step. Not only is the Energy Star program not called for as being in the purview of the federal government, the entire EPA isn't either. Shut the whole thing down.
^THIS +10000000000000000000.
Again, we need that upvote feature.
^THIS +10000000000000000000.
Now you're getting it.
Zeldin is certainly chipping at it.
Its SAVED SO-MUCH my power bill is literally 3-TIMES what it was in 1991 and my appliances only do 1/3 of the work of what they use too.
Does anyone suppose the attacks on renewable energy in concordance with attacks on energy efficiency is just a way to funnel more money to big oil and other energy producers to line their pockets at the expense of common-man America ? Just asking.
Considering the common-man gets Gov-Gunned down for renewable energy and dictated efficiency but not for big oil I'd say you're 100% backwards.
Have you not been paying attention? “Energy efficient” isn’t really efficient . But I. Not shocked you would say such a retardedly democrat thing to smear an industry that produces real energy.
I just want to buy a dishwasher that cleans the dishes and a shower head that has water pressure. Am I asking for too much?
Yes.
Sadage
What part of "voluntary" do commenters not understand?
Harvard grad doesn't realize the Feds have a regulatory state for sales domestically. Lol.
https://www.energy.gov/eere/buildings/about-appliance-and-equipment-standards-program
"Voluntary" huh?
As for energy star, it is tied to government benefits dumdum. It isn't voluntary. If it was there wouldn't be any benefits for compliance.
"Voluntary", as in presenting an ID to get on a plane. Legally, you do have other options, but they involve dropping your pants and bending over.
The voluntary part is bullshit. It is a mandate in all sorts of cases.
The Energy Star program has been a great success. It gives consumers an easy way to know what appliances are more energy efficient and is a consistent standard.
"Oh but private industry could do it better". Uh, no because prior to Energy Start they did not do it.
This is an example of don't break what is not broken.
If it is great for consumers they don't need to tie tax breaks and benefits to it, no?
BS. Practically every appliance had Wattage ratings long before Energy-Star.
A "wattage" rating on most appliances tells you little about how much energy is actually used. It's the peak watts that the appliance may draw (which can be correlated to amps via Mr Ohm's law). It's important to know this if you have a number of appliances on the same circuit so you don't turn too many of them on at the same time and trip the breaker.
For example, a clothes washing machine may have a name plate declaring 900 watts. However, the actual wattage will vary depending on what phase of the cycle it's in - the highest energy use (i.e., that wattage number on the appliance's name plate) might be 900 watts for a few seconds as it starts the spin cycle but be as low as 10 watts during the fill phase of the cycle. As well, the wattage rating tells you nothing about how long a cycle will take which of course is also critical factor in how many kWh are used in each cycle.
Only Gov-Guns can multiply Watts x Hours in-use to get peak KWH (the very unit of 'how much energy'). /s
If there's a government position, you can bet Molly will be shilling for it.
Tony, only a retarded Marxist faggot, such as yourself, would say something that willfully obtuse.
LOL. I finally get it. You're comic relief.
Okay, fed.
It's the same as any other government program. It "works" if the program perfectly mirrors the market. Have central planners ever succeeded at this task? No. As a result, producers have to meet the demands of the market and the program. If the program goals aren't aligned with the market, we're all worse off for it.
Man those Conservative Bushs' sure loved small and limited government.
In relativity to Democrats? TRUE.
In relativity to Trump? NOT TRUE.
In relativity to Trump? NOT TRUE.
Cares Act says otherwise. And more to the point of this article the AIM Act he signed sponsored by J Kennedy (R, LA) which phased out R410A refrigerant starting Jan 2025. So Trane and Carrier, moved to R454b, which is in severe shortage, if you can find a jug its about $1,100 (up from $305 which was high from pre-covid R410A, $50-$75). Oh and the jugs are 5lbs less in volume.
Thanks, Trump!
Incorrect.
The AIM Act (phasing-out R410A) is part of the "Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021"
https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/2021-05/documents/faq_aim_act.pdf
Sponsored by: Cuellar, Henry [D-TX]
Was Bush (which one Sr. or Jr.) more aggressive on De-Regulating and Cutting-spending than Trump? I'd say No. But you are correct Trump F'Ed up BIG TIME signing the Democrat pitched Cares Act and (as shown) the Democrat pitched AIM Act.
The biggest mistake Republicans make is signing Democrat-Pitched bills.
My opinion is that the federal government should sell/transfer the program to all companies that choose to finance it and use its logo. It has long been a tradition that industry groups have joined forces to provide standards for performance of their products. One case in point is the RIAA, which standardized record playback standards, so that every piece of equipment that played LP records fit the same specifications, and so did the records. Home playback of recordings was much improved by that. Later, the Compact Disc was industry-standardized so that every CD player played every CD correctly. Sound reproduced through computer technology is similarly standardized. We can expect the same sort of thing for appliances -- and get them better aligned with customer need, if we get the government out of it.
Agreed.
Hey, 50 million saved is 50 million saved. Do it!
I had to spend an hour pouring over my dishwasher manual to find out the best setting to actually clean dishes instead of just rinsing them again and again with tepid water.
But now the machine cleans dishes very well, because I found the setting that consumes both the most energy and the most water.
It’s the democrat way.
I suspect Energy Star is like CAFE standards. Remember those tiny Chevy LUV trucks that were big back in the day? Cafe standards is why we can't buy those anymore but you can buy twice the truck with half the mileage and it meets CAFE standards. The problem was that they use footprint in the equation, so the tiny little fuel efficient trucks came out as gas guzzlers according to CAFE but a truck with a larger footprint could get worse mileage but somehow be determined to be more "efficient", so to sell a LUV they had to pay a large fine per truck, removing the profit, so no more LUV trucks.