Trump Tries To Defund NPR and PBS by Executive Order
A new executive order would keep the Corporation for Public Broadcasting alive while telling it to cut off the two biggest public broadcasting networks. Get ready for a legal fight.

President Donald Trump issued an executive order last night that is supposed to end federal funding for the public TV network PBS and the public radio network NPR. Specifically, he ordered the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) to stop its direct subsidies to those networks "to the maximum extent allowed by law" and to revise its grants to individual stations to block them from spending taxpayers' money on PBS or NPR programs. The order also instructs all executive agencies to eliminate any flow of funds to the two networks, and it asks the Department of Health and Human Services to investigate whether the networks are guilty of illegal discrimination.
If you're a totebag-hating Tory who wants to kick Daniel Tiger off the dole, you may be in for some disappointment. That phrase "to the maximum extent allowed by law" did not come from nowhere; this move is guaranteed to run into legal trouble. It also seems, on the surface at least, to be bizarrely timed, since Congress is supposed to vote on a rescission bill soon that would cut off the CPB's money anyway.
The biggest legal issue here is pretty simple: The CPB is not a part of the executive branch, so it isn't clear how the president would have the authority to issue those demands. I don't mean that it is an "independent agency" like the Federal Trade Commission; I mean that it is not, officially, a government agency at all. The law that established the corporation said it "would not be an agency or establishment of the United States Government." As a statutory matter, it isn't an arm of the federal apparatus.
As a practical matter, of course, the CPB is very much an arm of the federal apparatus—and the Oval Office has a long history of putting pressure on it, going all the way back to the organization's origins under President Lyndon Johnson. And of course, the president nominates new members to the CPB board when their predecessors' terms elapse, though they then have to be confirmed by the Senate. Trump is, in fact, in the midst of a legal fight right now over his attempt to fire three members of the board before their six-year terms expire.
Still, it is not technically a government agency, and its board has been arguing in court that Trump for that reason does not have the right to fire its members willy-nilly. It will surely say the same thing about this new order. I'll be interested to see how the White House defends itself against that line of attack, because I have a hard time imagining a winning legal argument for Trump's approach—and I say that as someone who has been writing for three decades that the government and the CPB should break up.
But the big question here isn't Does the Trump administration have an argument up its sleeve that will wow the judges and let it tell the CPB what to do? The big question is: Wait, wasn't the Trump administration about to send Congress a request for it to rescind the CPB's funding? Why bother with this order at all?
There are all sorts of possible answers to that, from "maybe they don't have the votes in the Senate" to "maybe they think the threat of rescission will give them leverage over the board" to "maybe there's a faction fight in the White House about the best way to proceed" to "maybe Trump just got mad." We'll probably learn more down the road about what's going on behind the scenes. The important thing to recognize now is that the rescission path is far preferable to the executive-order path—and not just because it avoids those legal problems.
Under the rescission bill, the CPB will lose its federal support but will be free to use its other resources to fund whatever programming it likes. Under the executive order, the CPB will still have federal support and will have to do whatever the White House says. The first approach detaches public media from the federal government but allows them to try to survive as what noncommercial broadcasting originally was—a part of civil society. The second approach actually tightens the feds' control over public media's biggest funder, and it centralizes that control in the hands of whoever happens to be president.
If rescission passes anyway, that won't matter much. But if this is supposed to be a substitute for rescission, it could leave us worse off than before.
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When will you idiots realize this is intentional to bleed the leftist lawfare groups?
Most of the suits will be overturned anyways, so they are just using up the leftist resources they have.
Look at how donors stopped funding kamalas campaign. This is why cutting off USAID that filled these coffers up was the first step.
I'm sorry to throw cold water on the latest 4D chess theory, but the CPB doesn't rely on activist lawyers. The man arguing its case in the fight over the board firings works for this firm.
A rare visit from one of the anointed.
I actually kind of miss mixing it up down here, even if the asshole wing (*) of the commentariat has driven out some (not all!) of the regulars who were most fun to chat or spar with. But most of my articles these days are big long magazine pieces that go up on the weekends, when 70% of the comments are just people sharing unrelated links & I lose interest in following along.
(* "Asshole wing"? Sorry for the mixed metaphor.)
Do you and welch still laugh about red weddings?
Lol.
Hate to tell you this, Jesse, a lot of those links have been more informative than many of your colleagues here.
And by the asshole wing, I assume you mean JeffSarc, the child molester buttplug, and the rest of the leftist clown car.
Right?
Of course he isn't referring to the beltway libertarians/democrats. The ones against the defending of these things.
Since he was nice enough to come down and comment, I’m trying to give him the benefit of the doubt.
asshole wing of the commentariat has driven out some (not all!) of the regulars
Is this even what happened? My understanding was the Glibbening was due to dissatisfaction with the magazine itself, and the editorial staff, not assholes in the comments.
It's gone so far downhill since then too
The proliferation of leftists has indeed been a problem. Along with a growing number of outright nazis (JewFree, Misek) and child molesters (Shrime, Jeffy).
If the assholes have been here as long as any of your/the regulars and the regulars leave, doesn't that mean everyone else is regulars and you're the odd asshole?
Here you go. Some light reading so you can see where the contempt for regime libertarians (ironically here always in one direction but often in the same as the d.c. bureaucracy) comes from.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2005/07/lew-rockwell/regime-libertarians/
Have a nice weekend asshole:
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You do realize in your very own article you state that these will likely be in the recissions right?
Also in house counsels still have expenses. They aren't fix fees.
And I'll add youre naive if you don't think outside council will join.
It’s still ties up these law firms. But ultimately, we need to go after the big money people like Alex Soros.
Yeah. Gravity is a(t least a) 4D theory too.
Sure. It's 9-D chess. Sure.
We don't need to know your moob size.
Oh no!
Fortunately I've got my supply of mugs and recycling bags. So I don't need to watch the reruns of old (and bad) English sitcoms and historical dramas.
And there’s always Britbox for that.
Fawlty Towers was hilarious slapstick. Yes Minister was great satire.
You don't need PBS to see them.
Those would be on the BBC, which is actually worse than PBS. They do have some great entertainment programs, but outside of entertainment it's Karl Marx Central.
Trump Tries To Defund NPR and PBS by Executive Order
Can anyone really have a problem with this??
Yes, but that person would have to acknowledge he is an evangelical Democrat who believes his very biased view of the world should be funded by the 90+% of the country who isn't interested in partaking.
"If you're a totebag-hating Tory who wants to kick Daniel Tiger off the dole, you may be in for some disappointment."
Very nuanced view, bro. I'm surprised you didn't just come out and say Mitt Romney is trying to kill Big Bird. Maybe it's a little less about Daniel Tiger and a little more about radical leftist propaganda (and ONLY leftist propaganda). Moron.
Speak for yourself, buddy. I'd love to kick Daniel Tiger off the dole, and I'm not even a Tory.
Then why write this?
If you're a totebag-hating Tory who wants to kick Daniel Tiger off the dole, you may be in for some disappointment.
Just to be condescending? While calling others assholes? The line added zero to the article except your contempt.
Then why write this?...The line added zero to the article except your contempt.
What's that E.B. White line? "Explaining a joke is like dissecting a live frog. It can be done, but the frog tends to die in the process."
What we see in actual assholes who are condescending is calling their attempts at insults jokes.
At least own it.
I'm not going to try to convince you that the line is funny—either you like it or you don't—but if you insist on taking it as an attack on people who want to defund the CPB then I don't know what to tell you. The same article says just a few lines later that I've spent three decades arguing against these subsidies. It would be weird indeed to direct that insult at myself.
So who are the assholes?
Especially given the "You know all that discretionary spending that I can tell you to stop spending? Stop." manner in which it was done.
I mean the article author has a problem with it. Hence the article.
I could care less about the technicalities. For the last 30 years the uniparty has not given one shit about the technicalities as they railroad their way through everything I care about and use activist judges with legalese weaselwords to bring bolshevism to my doorstep.
I just want to win. Crush the CPB and NPR any way you see fit. The sooner they are dead the better. There's no worry about "oh no the other side will do it this way too if they regain power." This is the new normal. Just win.
Then why stop at executive orders? Why not just go full dictatorship and have the government start murdering the dissenters?
Should the government be directly funding media?
If MAPedo is being honest, he’ll say “yes, as long as it’s Democrat media“
Well, dictatorship is not something in the President's toolbox. Executive Orders are.
This will come as a great disappointment to Trump and his defenders, but NPR and PBS only get about 15% of their funding from the CPB. That's it. So even if he succeeds in flouting the law, it's not going to have the desired effect of killing the networks. If anything they'll just shut down towers where there aren't enough listeners to make them profitable to operate, which is what the funding is for anyway.
The executive order goes far beyond the CPB, which is probably the biggest bit to get excited about. NPR and PBS get a huge amount of funding through State and NGO grants which are often repurposed federal dollars from other agencies. To the extent that this EO targets all federal agencies, there is a good chance it will extend to more than this 15% (and damn, 15% is too high, isn't it?).
(and damn, 15% is too high, isn't it?).
1% is too high. Sarc really thought he had a gotcha there.
What's the goal here, to cut funding or to shut it down?
Because this looks to be less like trying to save government money and more like getting retribution against Trump's political foes.
Trump is using his office to reduce government waste.
Most government waste is leftist sponsored programs.
When most of the graft if driven by democrats, of course they'll feel targeted. Not retribution, justice. No matter what Maddow says.
You didn't answer my question. Is the goal to save government money or shut then network down? Or are you unable to answer simple questions without first getting your marching orders from Truth Social and Fox News?
The goal is to stop forcing me to fund a partisan left wing network. I'd be just as agreeable to not being forced to fund a partisan right wing network, but there aren't any of those I'm forced to fund to my knowledge.
We get it, you’re cool with left wing indoctrination funded by tax dollars.
I maintain that when the entire bureaucracy, media, party elites, etc. do what they’ve done over the last 8 years against one New York asshole, any move against them is going to be indistinguishable between retribution and good policy.
"What's the goal here, to cut funding or to shut it down?"
To cut funding. You...do want to cut funding from the Taxpayer to NPR and PBS, don't you?
The federal government cannot shut these companies down unless their only way of surviving is through money laundered from the Federal Government...in which case, I suppose they will be shut down.
Let me ask you what your preference is: If the resulting effect of cutting funding is that they shut down, does that change the fact that the Taxpayer shouldn't be paying for them? If that happens to make people who dislike NPR/PBS happy, does that change the taxpayer shouldn't be paying for them?
Will you be happy if NPR and PBS still exist after Trump ignores the laws that fund them? Or will you only be satisfied if they're taken off the air. I think it's the latter.
He already answered you.
Yeah but he's got sarc dead to rights so sarc has no choice but to shit up the thread.
""What's the goal here, to cut funding or to shut it down?""
Well to the fuck you cut spending crowd, it would be cut funding.
""This will come as a great disappointment to Trump and his defenders, but NPR and PBS only get about 15% of their funding from the CPB. That's it. So even if he succeeds in flouting the law, it's not going to have the desired effect of killing the networks.""
Then why be opposed to the cuts?
Remember when you used to copy paste "fuck you, cut spending" to pretend to be a libertarian?
How about "all of the above." Trump has no clue what effect his orders will have; he doesn't want to end the CPB but wants to use it for his own purposes instead; and no one has any confidence that the Congress will ever do its job ever again.
I would settle for Trump ordering them to at least to install a balanced programing schedule in which conservative even libertarian ideas get as much air time as the leftist gibberish they constantly tout on these networks.
Nope. That's always where this ends up. "Oh, we're so sorry. We didn't realize our compnay staffed 100% with zey/zer freaks was biased. We'll hire two conservatives to bring balance to the force."
Fuck that and fuck you. We get two weeks of window dressing and then we go right back where we were. Blow up the Death Star once and for all.
Just refund all of it. These outlets generate plenty of money on their own.
Define balanced. It will always be some sort of, Left vs Right nonsense. I don't need people approved by the Trump administration on NPR's payroll. I need NPR to figure out how it is going to operate without sucking on the Government's teat.
I think balanced in this case means each side gets equal amount of airtime for two minutes hate.
At this point, I'm more interested in honest objective reporting than I am "balance".
At this point, I'm more interested in honest objective reporting than I am "balance".
Doing work with some 'modern' (w/in 15 yrs.) disaster or catastrophe action movie on in the background. The newscaster on the in-universe TV cuts in and profusely and explicitly grinds through several iterations of "These are completely unverified facts, but given the potential danger posed and loss of life implied by the information we feel we have to report..." and that was supposed to be a fictional portrayal of edgy, borderline irresponsible or fabulist journalism.
In reality we get earnest reporting on week-old second hand print copy from seven unnamed sources who can find the White House on the map and once saw Matt Gaetz at a party.
This is unicorn fart territory. If it exists with any government funds it will be slanted one way or another, and definitely not libertarian.
The committee in charge of balance will try to cover the spectrum from Bolshevik to Nazi, so every pole is represented.
I do not understand how the CPB can have its directors nominated by the President and approved by the Senate, yet not be an executive branch agency. Didn't we just go through this with the CPFB that was set up by Liz Warren?
If it gets taxpayer money, it's an arm of the government. If its directors are nominated by the President, how can it not be an executive branch agency?
Officially, it's a publicly funded nonprofit, not a government agency. The most similar case to hit the news this year would probably be the fight over defunding the U.S. Institute of Peace—but where that battle involved the administration just trying to cut off money for the institute, this involves the White House keeping the organization in place and telling the board what to do.
Sink or swim with all rest of the window lickers in media.
You have a more charitable view of the media than I do, but you're definitely headed in the right direction.
But...but...but...if PBS and NPR are defunded, who will fill the gap to enlighten all of us how wonderful it is to be under a Stalinist slave state?
CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSDNC?
NYT, WaPo, Reuters, AP, Times, HuffPo, Mother Jones, Jacobin, Reason, The Guardian, CBC, BBC, Al Jazeera, The WSJ, Slate, Vox, The Atlantic, Bloomberg, Politico, Propublica, USA Today, Bloomberg, Yahoo!, Facebook, Google, Reddit, The Young Turks, Blue checkmarks on X, Mastodon, Bluesky, a significant portion of federal judges, Governors, State AGs, Mayors, Police Chiefs, College Administrators and Professors, HS Administrators and Teachers, Union Reps for pretty much any/all of the above...
I'm sure I'm still missing a few collections of ten thousand or more people somewhere. Are we working under the (false) assumption that if, e.g., Trump grew a mustache, started speaking Russian, and his eyes started glowing like he'd been possessed by Stalin's ghost, FOX or the Babylon Bee would just report "President Trump learns new language." or no?
Fox News of course. They'll be sure to tell you how wonderful it is to have a Dear Leader who ignores the law, who ignores courts, who ignores the Constitution, who ignores elections, who uses tariffs to protect industry by raising prices of imports, who tells you higher prices are good for you, who denies basic economics, who makes up fake emergencies to activate unconstitutional powers, who has agents barge into homes without warrants, who disappears people off the street, who drops bombs on foreign nations, who uses EOs like dictatorial decrees... you know, all that stuff that gives you wood.
Do you actually believe the people on your mute list give a shit about fox news?
Nah, we just laugh at the retard.
They've grown from calling it "Faux" News.
Gutfeld is entertaining. Especially when Emily Campangno (sp?) is on.
But otherwise yeah.
Here’s something that should drive Sarc nuts…..
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/breaking-settlement-principle-reached-ashli-babbitt-lawsuit-young/
As a conservative, I see these channels, especially NPR as leftist propaganda.
I don’t want to give one penny of my tax dollars
I want complete de funding of NPR
Let’s hope congress stops the gravy train for the democrat radio station
Since you mention gravy train I hope Amtrak loses all funding as well.
Naturally the libertarian position is to cut all government funding to the CPB so I hope that the Recission bill passes.
Libertarian? At Reason? You must be joking.
Just today
1st - Crying about Texas being against Federal Environmentalists.
2nd - Crying about Commie-Media being defunded.
3rd - Crying about Trump wanting spend less money.
From Wiki
In January 2024,Katherine Maher was named CEO of NPR, and started her job in late March.
On April 9, 2024, The Free Press published an essay by Uri Berliner titled "I've Been at NPR for 25 Years. Here's How We Lost America's Trust". in which he criticized NPR for having "coalesced around the progressive worldview" and "an open-minded spirit no longer exists within NPR". Berliner contended that NPR had lost America's trust by representing only a narrow segment of the U.S. population in its coverage.[10]
Berliner was given a five-day suspension without pay on April 12 for failing to secure approval for outside work.[11] He resigned on April 17, saying he "cannot work in a newsroom where I am disparaged".
""representing only a narrow segment of the U.S. population in its coverage.""
Call it bubble radio.
Fuck you, cut spending!
Oh wait, carry on then!
Your pet radio station isn't speci... er, do you have any other pet causes that you're certain The President doesn't have the authority to cut funding to?
Stalker.
New Title, "Trump tries to defund Commie-Media and all the Commie-Media outlets start crying."
2020 DNC Platform, "Trump Administration’s hollowing out of our public ([Na]tional So[zi]alist) institutions!" (pg 5 paragraph 5)