Do Americans Really Want To Bring Back Manufacturing?
If lots of Americans wanted factory jobs, the domestic labor market would look very different.

President Donald Trump pledged that he would make America "a manufacturing nation once again," during his inauguration speech. Since then, Trump has issued a number of executive orders to this end. But most Americans say that they would not be better off if they worked in a factory.
That's according to the Cato Institute's 2024 Globalization and Trade Survey, which recently went viral. The report found that 80 percent of Americans think the country would be better if more Americans worked in factories, but only 25 percent think they would be better if they worked in a factory.
Republican pollster Frank Luntz described the Cato poll as "a Rorschach test for people on both sides of the free trade debate." Protectionists conclude that the country can increase manufacturing jobs, which account for 8 percent of total nonfarm employment, because 25 percent of respondents say their lives would be better with a factory job. Meanwhile, free traders see that most of the support for manufacturing applies to others working a factory job, not the proponents of manufacturing themselves.
Though the results appear to be inconsistent at first glance, they aren't. Respondents who don't think they'd be better off themselves working in manufacturing could argue that the country would be better off insofar as more manufacturing jobs would improve the lives of other Americans—like the 25 percent of respondents who report their lives would be improved by a factory job.
But do a quarter of Americans actually believe that they'd be better off in manufacturing? The economic concept of revealed preference suggests otherwise. If Americans believed they would be better off entering manufacturing, the U.S. should see manufacturing employment increase over time. But this is neither the historical nor the recent trend.
The last time manufacturing made up 25 percent of total employment was in 1973. It has been steadily declining in its share of employment since then. In absolute terms, manufacturing employees peaked at around 19.6 million in June 1979, according to data compiled by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis. It hovered around 17.5 million from the early 1980s until 2001, when it decreased steadily until reaching a nadir in March 2010: 11.4 million employees. Since November 2022, employment in this sector has held relatively constant at around 12.8 million people.
The Bureau of Labor Statistics' (BLS) August 2024 report found that over 12.9 million Americans were working in manufacturing; the March 2025 report showed that number had fallen to 12.7 million. Meanwhile, the unemployment rate in the manufacturing sector decreased from 3.5 percent in August 2024 to 3.1 percent in March 2025, which is evidence that workers are leaving the manufacturing labor force, by choice. There are openings if they wanted them: 482,000 in March.
There are reasons why somebody could believe they'd be better off in a manufacturing job but not pursue one. The factories might be located far away from a respondent's family, friends, and community, so he doesn't pursue a manufacturing opportunity available to him for personal reasons, although it would make him "better off" in purely financial terms. Nonetheless, the fact that manufacturing employment has declined in absolute and relative terms while the sectoral unemployment rate has decreased since then strongly suggests that not all those who said they'd be better off working a factory job meant it.
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this Shill Factory is amazing.
The worlds largest exporter is China. Can anyone guess what country is number two?
Manufacturing employment peaked in 1979. Can anyone guess what happened in the 80s to cause employment to decline?
People say we don't make anything anymore. Can anyone guess what year manufacturing output peaked?
You might want to try leaving post-industrial Maine some time, dork.
The answers are United States, automation, and right fucking now.
You do know what industry they are using to push those metrics right? Of course not. You're blindly repeating talking points.
They are using primarily high tech production, but by claiming such things as every chip as a product, even if multiple chips are fabricated to a single board.
Also your complaints don't change the survey results.
You're probably dumb enough to believe that production costs in the US are not much higher per unit due to automation compared to Chinese slave labor using manual construction.
It is so weird watching supplication to China even when those who manufacture and deal with China openly state all the bad shit China does even in their business.
We get it. You love slave labor if it saves you a nickel. Meanwhile you'll demand higher income taxes to supply an ever increasing welfare state so you can save that nickel.
I love the belief that just because somebody does not like a certain job means they will not do it.
Because the ONLY jobs filled are actors and sports stars. None else.
Well we have taxes to pay for welfare. Taxes aren't a cost to these people.
Even if all our imports were stiffed at 100%, it would be 11% of spending. Still a third of what i pay in taxes.
They'd rather hide costs under taxes and regulations. They have no principles.
I also find it a bit curious that the editors here assume people loved their jobs.
Do they remember WHY Henry Ford paid more than anybody else to his employees?
Yes. Our 'Migrant' friends prove this every day of the week. Sometimes men don't go to jobs because they like them. They don't go to them because they get some social chit that makes them feel good about the work. They go to 'put food on their families' as GW so eloquently put.
Women in the workplace don't understand this because they don't do it.
Exactly. No job or job I may not like that much but could make a living at. Hmmmm.
He may be referencing Bath Maine. The Ship building Industry. It has taken a turn for the worst.
I still don't believe those numbers reflect what you think they do. For instance, I work for an American manufacturing firm. Now ask me how many factories we have here.
Is the US the second largest exporter, yes or no?
Is most manufacturing in this country automated, yes or no?
Is US manufacturing output at an all time high, yes or no?
They're not difficult questions.
If I work for an American manufacturer, and we have 0 factories in the US, does my company contribute to the numbers which reflect "American Manufacturing Output" and "American Exports"?
It's a complex question, but I think you can handle it.
You do realize that you're not the only manufacturing outfit in the country, right?
A: My manufacturing firm is VERY typical.
2: See my comment below.
Notice sarc won't defend the numbers he is attempting to use as he's never investigated past the bumper sticker.
If I work for an American manufacturer, and we have 0 factories in the US, does my company contribute to the numbers which reflect "American Manufacturing Output" and "American Exports"?
If you work in manufacturing, then probably so. And why not? Do managers on a factory floor count as manufacturing jobs, or only the people getting carpal tunnel syndrome?
Of course they do. As does the millionaire CEO of my company count as a manufacturing job.
Just for funsies, here's an article which describes exactly what my question is about your numbers about "America numbah one! [two]" in manufacturing and output.
It points out that we have strong manufacturing output numbers while conceding that all the jobs went overseas. Disclaimer: The article is pro outsourcing. But my point isn't to say "yay outsourcing" or "Boo! outsourcing". My point is that merely showing a hockey stick graph (gdp, manufacturing output, take your pick) doesn't tell you what the story looks like on the ground.
In an extreme situation, could a social construct have wild GDP growth while employing almost no one? Are there any negative consequences to that?
Here's a Fobes article, again, describing this very phenomenon. America is the "dominant force" in outsourcing of jobs. Again, take what you will away from these articles whether the result is good or bad, but in my social construct, I'm walking by rows and rows (and rows and rows... and rows... and rows) of tent cities and favelas full of unemployed people. Forgive me if I scratch my chin and wondcer if all is not well in the American job market.
PS: Note the 'outsourcing of white collar jobs'. Guess where my company recently sent a bunch of engineering job after closing a couple of engineering and design offices here in the states?
As many before me have said, the job outsourcing question takes a very different turn when it's no longer just a bunch of dirty working class, but starts to affect the middle and upper middle classes. As Peter Hitchens once said (about immigration to be fair) "I suspect this debate would look a lot different if the jobs that were in competition were for journalists and television producers".
To put a finer point on it, it's all fun and games when an economics professor tells you how great America's GDP numbers look because we outsourced all the jobs, or Nick Gillespie celebrates the loss of manufacturing jobs because THIS English Major thought working in factories wasn't like, fun at all, man, it all looks a bit different when we can hire an econ professor in Lahore and teach a class by zoom at 1/4 the cost, or have AI churn out Nick Gillespie content for free.
have AI churn out Nick Gillespie content for free
Forcing an LLM to be a 70-80s Boomer, countercultural, prog-punk-rock language model is a terrible thing to do to an LLM. I hear Alice Cooper and Dee Snider DJing on the radio all the time. Certainly there has to be an underemployed genuine article like Alan Parsons or Roddy Bottums out there available to do the job.
I pity your company in the next decade. The code I've seen from Indian outsourcing is riddled with bugs, errors, and is not easily managed for future upgrades.
Everybody wants mining, manufacturing, and drilling ... but nobody wants to pay for doing it safely without turning a Colorado river orange or setting the Cuyahoga River on fire.
Turning that river orange was the fault of the EPA, and we have the means to keep rivers from setting on fire.
Why are you demanding it be done safely here but not in china? Is that the ole democrat false "we care about people" narrative?
Yup. It's okay if the Ughars do the dangerous stuff.
While the incident you speak of was caused by government, I'll concede the point you're making. Now you can reflect on why people might not be comfortable that American Manufacturing is happy to turn someone else's rivers orange and set their rivers on fire so you can have a flat screen tv that's 11% cheaper than had it been done here, safely.
Slow news day: 30 coal miners die in a mine accident in China.
Also, 30,000 die each year in Chinese mines.
Umm, that would be a good day on average for China. Slow news day and MSM journalists are stupid.
Hey Jack, you might want to drag your carcass out of New York and DC every once in a while to see the rest of the country and what your class has wrought.
Nothing worse than having a productive job. The only path to happiness and prosperity is making PowerPoint slides.
Also, journalists are less popular than Congresscritters. Why don't more people love their journalists?
So the working age population of the US is 211.8 million. 8% manufacturing is over 16 million jobs. If 25% want to work in manufacturing that would suggest 52 million of the workforce would like a manufacturing job, which suggests that there is a shortfall of around 36 million manufacturing jobs available.
I am not sure how you conclude there are no Americans who would want such jobs.
I am.a bit confused about how the statistics in the article show a decline in manufacturing sector jobs by choice of the workers.
It’s because Jack and his class of Ivy League educated idiots don’t want those jobs and think those jobs and anyone who works them is beneath his class. Fuck the Ivy League educated idiots.
The argument that increasing the US manufacturing sector is an unworthy goal in itself is such a bizarre assertion that I cannot wrap my head around why it is being made,
A century ago 30% of the population were farmers. Now it's closer to 2%. Does that mean we don't grow any food anymore? Does that mean we offshored food production? Does that mean we need more farming jobs? Should more farming jobs be a worthy goal in itself?
Your question is non-sequitor. There seems to be some kind of consensus by the journalist class thst manufacturing jobs are beneath (native born) Americans and thus having more manufacturingbin the US is not desirable.
If the argument wasn't he US should not grow any more food because farming is a low class job, then, yes, I would question that.
"Manufacturing job" can mean different things.
It can mean manually screwing in the same part all day long.
It can also mean maintaining a bunch of machines that screw in the same part all day long.
The former are the jobs that are done overseas. Output per worker is low, as is the pay.
The latter are manufacturing jobs that we have in the US. Output per worker is high, as is the pay.
When politicians and other ignoramuses go on about the romantic days when anyone could get a manufacturing job out of high school and support a family, they're talking about the former type of manufacturing jobs. Problem is that our standard of living has gotten much more expensive, and those jobs won't pay for it anymore.
People don't realize that "bringing manufacturing back to the US" will look like the latter. As in a floor full of machines doing menial tasks while a team of skilled, educated workers keep them running.
So even if manufacturing is onshored, it's not going to look like the factories of the 1950s, filled with bustling manufacturing workers. It's just not.
Where did I suggest otherwise?
Again, non sequitor. You are railing against sn argument I did not make.
What does that have to with notion that more US based manufacis unbearable in itself?
What does that have to with notion that more US based manufacis unbearable in itself?
The notion is based upon not knowing what US based manufacturing looks like. It's the same wrong notion promoted by ignoramuses who want to onshore manufacturing.
My job has involved engineering consulting for industrial clients. I have some personal experience with what current day American manufacturing looks like.
Yeah. But did you listen to a podcast that agrees with your first impressions like sarc?
I believe it is an offshoot of the college push that began in the '80's. Some study in the '70's or '80's, I don't remember which, found that college graduates earn more money over their lifetime than non-college graduates. Of course, that was before the bloat of degrees with little to no market value. And the study failed to account for the fact that the people motivated to go to college in the decades before the study were likely motivated to be high achievers anyway.
Baed on that study the education industrial complex decided that schools should push every student to graduate HS and get a college degree. To that end, I remember trade schools, trade jobs, factory jobs -- "blue collar" jobs, in general -- becoming more and more denigrated as "loser" jobs or "uneducated" jobs. Simultaneously, service industry jobs were "not real" jobs. Every single SitCom of the '80's and '90's with a blue collar father seemed to carry a message of wanting his kids to "make more of themselves." And etcetera.
As a result, some four decades later, we have a shortage of skilled trades
menpeople and a surplus of over-credentialed near-unemployable college graduates bemoaning their student loans while slinging coffee at Starbucks.How about we just reduce all the government restrictions that keep manufacturers off our shores and let labor and industrialist decide from there?
Whatever happened to "free trade and free markets?" The way to find out who wants to work in what kind of job is to leave the employers and the workforce alone to figure it out for themselves. If you're a pizza delivery guy, a manufacturing job might look pretty good to you. If you're an assembly line worker, getting a college education and becoming an engineer might look better to you. Although all of these statistics are interesting, none of them proves any particular position on government intervention. The default position for libertarians should ALWAYS be: leave the markets alone!
If you're a pizza delivery guy, a manufacturing job might look pretty good to you.
Not sure why. Driving pies full time pays more than working on an assembly line. Though an assembly line job likely has better bennies.
What so many people don't understand is that there is tons of manufacturing going on in this country. Most of it is done on factory floors filled with robots running 24/7/365. The people in those plants engineer and maintain the machines, and are paid damn well for it. Automation, not offshoring or government regulation, is the enemy of manufacturing jobs.
People who actually know the metrics understand the manufacturing here. People who don't use it as an argument from ignorance in supplication to China.
Does the pizza guy get health insurance? Probably not. Oh, he's driving pies on his dime, on his vehicle, which he pays gas and insurance on. Driving pies full time pays better? Not likely.
What so many people don't understand is that there is tons of manufacturing going on in this country. Most of it is done on factory floors filled with robots running 24/7/365. The people in those plants engineer and maintain the machines, and are paid damn well for it. Automation, not offshoring or government regulation, is the enemy of manufacturing jobs.
That is true. There is also a TON of manufacturing that can be brought BACK to this country, automated and done with the same robots or not.
Worker demands drives job creation? These are the economic 'experts' Reason touts?
I said this yesterday, but I work in a factory. Along with 120 other people. It's a small town's largest employer. The pay is way above the local norm, benefits are good (401k, PTO, medical, dental, vision, etc) and we don't have to contend with traffic, except the occasional elk herd on the highway.
There are many non-manufacturing jobs; engineering, logistics, management, HR, purchasing, planning, quality, maintenance, etc.
It's not some glamorous gig, but people want to work here.
Sarc says you would make more money delivering pizzas.
Sarc also said he didn't work overtime because he got smaller paychecks if he did.
Sarc isn't intelligent.
It's not a glamorous gig. Yes, most of them are not. And yet...
Currently 2% of Americans work in factories. Sounds like another 23% are willing to do so and think they'd be better off.
Not sure where the issue is.
My prediction is (and has been) that AI is about to completely destroy the Managerial Class. Theoretically all these new MFG jobs would have a workforce pool of newly laid-off middle managers to draw from. Unfortunately most MFG lines are automated and monitored by technicians - no need for untrained and obsolete managers.
What to do?
Ah wait, all those jobs that used to be filled by illegal immigrants...
I don't see a long line of citizens queuing up to pick lettuce or become roofers. Will that really happen once the immigrant roofers and lettuce pickers are kicked out? What might happen is that produce will rot and houses won't get built- at least for a while.
Hunger is an amazing motivator.
I don't see a long line of citizens queuing up to pick lettuce or become roofers.
So you're saying all those homeless people are just bums who are parasites on society?
I've worked on farms and put roofs on. Also delivered pizza and worked in a factory. I was briefly employed as a libertarian pundit but decided it was beneath my standards.
Of course they want to bring back manufacturing jobs. It's why small-town mayors in Ohio with interests in local factories import 10,000 Haitians to a town of 50,000, to work in a factory that only requires 1,000 workers.
Thats (D)ifferent!
That town also had a surplus of pet cats and just didn't have the tax base to hire more animal control
YES! Americans want manufacturing jobs.
I was an engineer at a semiconductor manufacturing company for more than 20 years. Like me, many employees had worked at the same company for decades--It was a good job!
Then, about 15 years ago, we began boxing our equipment and shipping it to China...And laying-off workers who had been with the company for many years.
I'm pretty sure that most of these people wished they had their manufacturing job after being handed pink slips.
When are OSHA and EPA getting DOGEd?
But most Americans say that they would not be better off if they worked in a factory.
Fuck you. Come to the Detroit area and tell that to everyone that lost their jobs over the past 30 years as manufacturing was shipped off overseas. You're ignorant. Workers didn't choose for their jobs to go away. The government, with the support of coastal "elites" decided they were better off without their "dirty" jobs. Everyone better go into massive debt to get a worthless degree that they can't even put to use. "Hi, I'm Dr Barista, can I take your order?"
FUCK OFF SLAVER
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Why do Americans think more other Americans should be makers? Is this consistent with findings in other places and times?
Uhm... because without makers to make the things, the parasites have nothing to take?
This seems like a really good place to remind Reason readers (and maybe a noob Reason EDITOR or two) that Jon Stewart on his podcast a couple months ago expressed genuine astonishment that MFG workers could take pride in their work.
I'm not making this up, it was real astonishment and wonder. Go Dems! Stick to the playbook!
My personal favorite from around the bend is when someone makes something "without using any tools"/"with their bare hands"/"using only 3rd world tools" and all the comments are high and mighty about how that's the one true way to do it. Like using any piece of machinery invented after the cotton gin is cheating and all the people in China sit in their huts barefoot etching circuit boards by hand with dial micrometers like lottery tickets or something.
It's not about what you *want*.
It's about what pays well. Starbucks doesn't pay well. Ironically, tightening screws in iPhones actually would.
Yes. Easiest enough question to answer.
This entire purported poll relies apparently on the word factory as a proxy for manufacturing. How do the respondents perceive a factory? A big dirty factory or a small clean factory. Is the work stultifying or challenging. Are workers packaging widgets or building rockets. Manufacturing involves a lot of things and this entire article seems pretty useless to me.
I think people have a stereotype of a sweatshop worker.
@Jack Nicastro
This is a gross logical fallacy at best; spurious at worst.
Just because people believe they would be better off doing X doesn't mean that more opportunities to do X will suddenly appear. Nor does it mean that the people that believe they would be better off doing X are qualified to do X. I certainly believe I would be better off as an overpaid, underworked semi-deified celebrity; but I sure as hell don't have the looks, the voice, or the talent, much less the opportunity, to pull it off.
No. They won't suddenly appear. Nothing, suddenly appears. Change happens when a belief is presented and the process to make it happens takes shape. Of course it takes time. Of course it is not the path of least resistance.
Are you ready to try? That is the only question.
The rest of the resistance is to keep the status quo the same. Nothing great has ever been built on doing things the same way we have always done them.
What a stupid fucking take. Have we, as Americans, really gotten this complacent and lazy? I think not. I hope not. I pray not.
Are you a single mom with 4 kids needing welfare cause all your baby daddies' won't step up? Off to the workhouse for yous. I'll expect my goldigger's dainties to be hand stitched by the nimble fingers of your little urchins. Like the good lord meant it to be. Or as I like to it "cottage manufacturing."
It's totally not racist to expect the work to be done "somewhere" else by "someone" else...
And maybe there's some Poe's Law happing here, but for a lot of us "the workhouse" is just called "a job."
I was just joking I don't care who's nimble finger's sew my goldigger's dainties, and to be fair I don't have a lot of gold... so I gotta get the dainties cheap.
If lots of Americans wanted factory jobs, the domestic labor market would look very different.
It's not about whether they want factory jobs. That's a level of arrogant entitlement that no man deserves. It's about whether they'll DO factory jobs to provide for their livelihoods and for their family.
I always read this kind of stuff and think back a few hundred years ago (or to contemporary Asia), and I wonder if that's the same hubris that made slavery popular in the first place.
I mean, let's not kid ourselves. Especially here at Reason. The CORE ARGUMENT of their griping against Orange Man's Tariffs are because it's going to make goods/production more expensive.
Is that NOT a tacit admission that they want goods made by slaves? And think that they can wipe their hands of their complicity in slavery by pretending that "as long as it happens in another country," they're not contributing to it?
But most Americans say that they would not be better off if they worked in a factory.
Because they've got a false premise screwing up their conclusion: that the government should provide for you if you DON'T work.
A person who thinks they're "too good" for a certain level of work is one who has never had an eviction notice on their door, or their power be turned off unexpectedly, or had to choose between feeding their kids or feeding themselves.
If you've lived so privileged a lifestyle, that you've never experienced something that dire, then I wish I could say I'm jealous - but I'm not. Because I know something you don't know about the school of hard knocks, that you're not in any way prepared for when its lessons come 'round.
And you certainly have no claim to such noble ideals as Individualism, Self-Reliance, and Independence.