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Reason Roundup

Yanking the Funds

Plus: Welfare strings, dildo sales, war authorization, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 3.26.2025 9:30 AM

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This is not good: The Trump administration is going about federal civil rights investigations rather unusually, per The Washington Post, and appears to be making tip lists of students they seek to deport or otherwise punish.

Generally speaking, federal civil rights probes involve inquiries to the colleges in question as to what type of incidents they encountered, how many, and how they dealt with them. But attorneys with the Department of Education, which handles these civil rights investigations related to antisemitism on campus, have also been collecting the names and nationalities of students accused of harassing Jewish students and faculty or otherwise engaging in antisemitic conduct.

"My first thought was, 'This is a witch hunt,'" one attorney told the Post. 

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The federal government does have an awful lot of leverage here. Columbia, under threat of losing $400 million in grants and other types of federal support, agreed last week "that it would overhaul its student disciplinary process, ban protesters from wearing masks, bar demonstrations from academic buildings, adopt a new definition of antisemitism and put its Middle Eastern studies program under the supervision of a vice provost who would have a say over curriculum and hiring," per the Associated Press.

"Columbia is demonstrating appropriate cooperation with the Trump administration's requirements, and we look forward to a lasting resolution," said Secretary of Education Linda McMahon in a statement that talks about the conditions that must be met for canceled federal grants and contracts to be restored. But, in private, Columbia's interim president Katrina Armstrong is telling faculty that the school actually will not comply, that there will be "no change to masking"; "no change to our admissions procedures"; and that the Middle Eastern Studies department will not be put under the heightened scrutiny the Trump administration is demanding, per Maya Sulkin's reporting at The Free Press. Meanwhile, the faculty are protesting. "What is happening to Columbia now is what the erosion of democracy looks like," Virginia Page Fortna, a political science professor, told The New York Times. Per a Wall Street Journal account of a faculty meeting transcript, one professor said this was "the biggest crisis since the founding of the republic." Well, OK then.

Why can't everyone lose? If you're a little tired of hearing about all the inner machinations of one fancy university, you're not alone. But the Columbia example, unfortunately, matters a bit: It gives us a sense of how far the Trump administration might go to rain down retribution and raises thorny questions of whether it is justified in doing so.

The most libertarian answers, here, may not be politically realistic: Stop federal funding of colleges and universities. Don't create detailed watchlists of students, ostensibly to more easily deport them for their First Amendment–protected protest activity. (Maybe also: Don't do federal civil rights probes?)

But one of these things is worse than the others: Armstrong is being grievously foolish, and the spoiled paraglider-cheerleaders heretofore treated with kid gloves by the admin make me want to ralph, but it sure looks like the federal government is using the power of the state to attempt to punish the school for what it perceives to be a feckless response to the protests. This just isn't the government's job—and veers dangerously close to speech suppression.

Of course, you could argue they've kind of made it their job, since the federal government administers grants to colleges and universities; everyone always ran the risk that those funds could be pulled in an event such as this. The best thing the Trump administration could've done, if it wanted to cut down on federal funding of colleges and universities, is announce early on, and across the board, that it will pursue an actual structural change in the degree to which the federal government supplies funding to these schools. But it's an administration that, thus far, has shown itself to be more focused on retribution than on careful, systematic cuts that will actually be made permanent. This is a shame, because taxpayers funding less Columbia nonsense would be a good thing—and it would come with the added benefit of allowing us to ignore these news cycles.

Trump admin officials denied Signal chat contained classified information: So The Atlantic was basically left with no choice other than to rebut this by publishing the contents.

To back up: Senior officials in the Trump administration used Signal to plan bombing campaigns on the Houthis, a Yemeni terrorist group that has been attacking shipping lanes in the Suez Canal. They seemingly accidentally added the editor in chief of The Atlantic to the group chat, thus resulting in a major scandal: Both the use of Signal to coordinate such top-secret attacks, and the ineptitude of adding someone accidentally, raise questions about competence and security.

Read them for yourself. Members of the Trump administration, including the president himself (who said there "was no classified information as I understand it"), are lying when they claim that "nobody was texting war plans" (as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said) and that "there was no classified material that was shared in that Signal group" (as Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said). You can read that classified material in The Atlantic!


Scenes from New York: "Groups representing university professors sued the Trump administration on Tuesday, alleging that its practice of arresting and threatening noncitizen students and faculty members for protesting on campus deprives U.S. citizens of their right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives," reports The New York Times. "The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Massachusetts, takes a broader approach than a flurry of other recent lawsuits challenging the federal government's deportation policies on college campuses. Those suits, including two involving a Columbia student and a recent graduate who are green card holders, aim to stop individual deportation proceedings."


QUICK HITS

  • ICYMI. Also, we're nearing 8,000 subscribers over at Just Asking Questions. You know what to do:

  • "The administration is also applying two kinds of conclusions that Trump's team reached in its years in the wilderness," writes Yuval Levin—former Just Asking Questions guest—over at The Free Press. "One is that Trump's circle was not effective enough in working the system to achieve its objectives in the first term. It lacked a worked-out policy agenda and legal strategy, and needed to hone its command of the tools at the president's disposal.…But a second lesson has mostly overshadowed this one.…Simply put: The conclusion he and much of his inner circle drew from his last time around was that Trump needs to be liberated from constraints." (I believe Levin gets some things wrong, like when he calls DOGE "a frantic and haphazard campaign cooked up just before Trump's inauguration, rooted in an unfocused desire to punish the bureaucracy, and farmed out to vainglorious dilettantes who are learning about government on the fly.")
  • Very good take:

Never again tell me that this was an emergency that required immediate military action without congressional authorization. pic.twitter.com/G2v43h1X9E

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) March 25, 2025

  • Senate Bill 3003, which would require age verification for dildo purchases, was introduced in the Texas Senate by Sen. Angela Paxton (R–Allen), wife of the state's Attorney General Ken Paxton. The future may involve retailers attempting to skirt this law by claiming dildos are medical devices (like how vibrators are sometimes referred to as massagers). "It's similar to how sex toys were marketed in the early 20th century to get around obscenity laws and the Comstock Act (which unfortunately still exists and may be used to prevent access to contraceptives and sex toys nationwide)," writer Hallie Lieberman tells 404 Media. "Butt plugs were sold as cures for asthma and vibrators for sciatica. We are literally going back in time with this law."
  • Duke is pissed off at The White Lotus for using their trademark in some difficult scenes.
  • A lot of libertarians advocate for attaching fewer strings to welfare. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is starting to take a different tack:

SNAP was designed to fight hunger and improve nutrition—not to subsidize soda & junk food. It makes no sense that taxpayer dollars are being used to fund an epidemic of obesity and diet-related illness. My bill ensures that SNAP actually supports health. https://t.co/v8To2iUrZh

— Senator Rand Paul (@SenRandPaul) March 25, 2025

  • Excited to read this:

I'm so pleased to present a new book with @stripepress: "The Scaling Era: An Oral History of AI, 2019-2025."

Over the last few years, I interviewed the key people thinking about AI: scientists, CEOs, economists, philosophers. This book curates and organizes the highlights across… pic.twitter.com/UzTQ4fIqar

— Dwarkesh Patel (@dwarkesh_sp) March 25, 2025

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  1. Chumby   2 months ago

    Keep Calm and Carry On

    https://thefederalist.com/2025/03/11/study-concealed-carriers-do-a-better-job-of-stopping-active-shooters-than-police/

    Nobody is coming to save you. You must participate in your own rescue.

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

      https://web.archive.org/web/20120803025549/http://dailyanarchist.com/2012/07/31/auditing-shooting-rampage-statistics/

      (Has to use the wayback machine)

      Analyzed a big pile of public shootings and found that the ones reported in official statistics for shooting 4+ victims were mostly stopped by cops; the ones not reported because they killed fewer were stopped by civilians on the scene.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Better not violate any intersectional race/gender/class hierarchies when you shoot the perp.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The Trump administration is going about federal civil rights investigations rather unusually...

    Just get colleges to do what you want by threatening to withhold federal funds and seed the administrations with ideological hacks, like everyone else.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Columbia, under threat of losing $400 million in grants and other types of federal support...

    Lol. There it is. That teat is too tasty to give up for any principles.

    1. Uncle Jay   2 months ago

      Columbia and other schools of higher education forget it's not their money their spending and do not have a right to all that cash.
      I don't know where these over-educated elitist snobs get the idea they're entitled to our money.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Columbia has billions in endowments but they need your money to give their trust fund babies that education alibi when they go terrorizing jews.

      Columbia’s endowment rises to $14.8 billion, on pace to outperform peer institutions in investment returns

      The past year’s gains bring the endowment up to $14.8 billion from $13.6 billion in fiscal year 2023… Columbia reported five-year and 10-year returns of 8.5 percent and 7.4 percent, respectively, with the latter slightly decreasing from 8 percent.

  4. Chumby   2 months ago

    Eggstatic!

    https://www.newsweek.com/egg-prices-plummet-nearly-five-month-low-2046276

    The swords of Dameggcles regarding high egg prices are a shell of their former selves.

    1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      So despite the media eggnoring it, slaughtering millions of chickens really did raise prices?

      1. Overt   2 months ago

        This is like in CA where they wailed about the lack of rain and drought conditions for the entire month of January, and never mentioned it again when a bunch of rain in February took us over the average.

      2. Chumby   2 months ago

        Perhaps a long-term increase by a poultry amount.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Quit crowing.

      3. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        Many of California’s problems are self inflicted. Knee jerk, heavy handed decrees are always a stupid move, trust CA to pullet again and again.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Sarcramento never ceases to amaze

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    It gives us a sense of how far the Trump administration might go to rain down retribution and raises thorny questions of whether it is justified in doing so.

    IT'S WHY PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Like JD Vance, they were wrong.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      It’s “thorny” to deport foreign terrorist supporters who infringed on the civil rights of Americans in violation of their green cards - and launched their activity in conjunction with a genocidal terror attack that they had foreknowledge of - …..I don’t see any thorns

      1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        Posted below but it bares repeating:

        “The families of the hostages are suing pro-Hamas organizations operating here in the US. The lawsuit contains a bombshell revelation: “three minutes before Hamas began its attack on October 7th, Columbia SJP posted on Instagram “We are back.” Before the 10/7 posting, Columbia SJP’s account had been inactive for months, only to be suspiciously reactivated minutes before the 10/7 terror attacks. The timing seems too coincidental to be a coincidence.

        If there are organizations here in the US that had advance knowledge of the 10/7 attacks, which led to the murder of American citizens, the American people have a right to know the full truth.”

        https://x.com/RitchieTorres/status/1904672320016544139

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          “The timing seems too coincidental to be a coincidence.”

          Good to see that reason is not the only publication in need of editors who actually edit.

          Or maybe that makes perfect sense logically, but just sounds dumb. Meh.

          1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

            It’s just a random dudes tweet. I had read about it earlier in the am but didn’t save the link, and that was one of the first posts that came up when I searched it.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The most libertarian answers, here, may not be politically realistic: Stop federal funding of colleges and universities.

    Which color pill would I be dispensing if I got people to agree to send those federal funds toward trade schools instead?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Either red or white.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        "Why is the guy who's unclogging my toilet spouting Marx?"

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          Why it pays to always go with a merit shop.

        2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

          I LOLed out loud

          1. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

            Finally.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Safety Yellow pills?

      1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   2 months ago

        Possibly Blaze Orange.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      I dunno. What color is supposed to be for Nazis?

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

        Brown

      2. Jerry B.   2 months ago

        Feldgrau.

    4. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

      … if I got people to agree to send those federal funds toward trade schools instead…

      That’ll be easy. Just convince them that social signaling and performing mob functions when needed are “trades”

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        Good idea. There is not nearly enough DEI in the trades. I encourage the progs to take their preachy nonsense to the nearest construction crew or machine shop. Might help them win next time?

        Haha.

    5. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      Liz doesn't even know Trump has to ask congress to do anything.

      Whats funny is reason focuses on these issues but never mentions say the three judges who just ruled Trumpnhas authority over the refugee program but he has ti let refugees in and ALSO pay the refugee NGOs. One even ordering a 6 month amount dispersed immediately.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        Judge in Trump deportation case somehow is now *also* presiding over Signalgate lawsuit.

        ---------------
        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/judge-targeted-by-trump-is-assigned-to-signalgate-lawsuit/ar-AA1BHLQk

        Boasberg on Wednesday morning was assigned to preside over a lawsuit alleging that Trump cabinet secretaries and national security aides violated federal record-keeping laws when they used a Signal chat group to discuss a planned military strike in Yemen — and inadvertently included an Atlantic journalist in the group.

        1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   2 months ago

          Well, handing him the Biden era CISA document should make short work of that case.

    6. Super Scary   2 months ago

      Blackwatch plaid pilled.

    7. mamabug   2 months ago

      Do the trade schools even need it though? My neighbor is putting himself through trade school via his apprenticeship as a plumber and still making money on top of that.

      1. See.More   2 months ago

        Do the trade schools even need it though?

        Yes. If for no other reason than funding a massive PR campaign to repair their image. I remember, as a kid in the '70s and '80s, how much trades got shit on and were denigrated as "not real jobs", "losers' jobs", and etcetera. A college degree, and subsequent real white-collar job, were pushed as the only respectable goals.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          But the real image problem in the trades is the dominance of white males, and their preferences for social norms. The elites have told us for years about toxic masculinity, and made every effort to diminish working men.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Trump admin officials denied Signal chat contained classified information...

    TOP SECRET: Gigachad Trump Officials Consider Europe Betacucks

    1. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      If we're paying for European security, who is the cuck?

      I think Europe is the wife's boyfriend in this scenario.

    2. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   2 months ago

      Interesting to see that Liz doesn't understand how classification works.

      Members of the Trump administration, including the president himself (who said there "was no classified information as I understand it"), are lying when they claim that [...] "there was no classified material that was shared in that Signal group" (as Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard said).

      It's quite likely that the information contained in those messages should have been classified. But you're calling the people who have the authority to make the determination if information is classified or not liars for saying that the information they say is not classified is not classified.

      Once again, from the top, the ultimate classification authority in this country vests in the office of the Chief Executive in the form of the President of the United States. The President is the sine qua non Derivative Declassifier.

      Tell me, Liz, how much training on the production and handling of classified material have you gone through, and how much of it have you handled yourself over your long years working in a field that regularly deals in it?

  8. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

    Lying Jeffy’s tribe strikes again!

    “BREAKING UPDATE: Collin County, Texas has made the arrest public. The attacker has been charged with multiple felonies and is identified as an Asian MALE named Liam Thanh Tam Nguyen. More trans violence.”

    https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1904763146323320886

    1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      Gotta love Josie’s response:

      “Bro would make a kiIIing in Bangkok.”

      https://x.com/TRHLofficial/status/1904767657712251251

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Awesome.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        One night in Bangkok makes a hard man humble
        Not much between despair and ecstasy
        One night in Bangkok and the tough guys tumble
        Can't be too careful with your company

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Additional info

      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2025/03/26/turning-point-assault-n2654505

      Police have arrested the suspect involved in an attack on Turning Point USA chapter president Paige Neumann and her secretary at the University of Texas at Dallas, TPUSA founder and Salem radio host Charlie Kirk confirmed Wednesday morning.

      The incident took place while the two were tabling on campus.

      "Our Chapter President, Paige Neumann, and her secretary Grace were just assaulted while tabling at the University of Texas at Dallas," Kirk said on X after the incident. "The attacker took a metal bike lock and slammed it against Paige’s head (pictured below), hitting her so hard that it completely shattered Paige’s phone. It’s unclear if the perpetrator is female or trans.

      "Paige has filed a police report with University Police who are thankfully taking this matter seriously and are currently searching for the individual," he continued. "Thankfully, Paige and her chapter VP Grace (whose phone was also destroyed) are both physically doing okay.

  9. Chumby   2 months ago

    Signal Found

    Signal, an application developed by the US deep state.

    It was initially backed by the CIA-backed Open Technology Fund (OTF), which is affiliated with Radio Free Asia.

    The Chairwoman of Signal is Katherine Maher, who has:

    * Been involved with NDI/NED, organizations focused on regime change

    * Held memberships with the Atlantic Council, WEF, US State Department's Foreign Affairs Policy Board, and more.

    * Showed support for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Joe Biden in 2020 while regularly sharing far-left talking points and criticizing Donald Trump. 

    * Suspended Veteran NPR editor Uri Berliner, who served a five-day suspension for blowing the whistle on liberal bias at the organization. 

    - reportedly from American Thinker

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Is she responsible for getting Jeffy “Liar” Goldberg into the chat?

    2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      Link?

      1. Chumby   2 months ago

        https://t.me/amthinkTV/1831

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          Thanks. Guess it’s time to download Telegram already.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            It is the app with the most liberty, though possibly compromised since France detained Durov.

    3. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      Tim Poole had an interesting theory. The admin leaked it on purpose to show Vance et al. making the argument that this should really be Europe’s problem but they won’t actually handle this. Throws a bone to the non-interventionist wing and also calls out Europe. Stated another benefit out I’m blanking on.

      He pointed out that if this conversation was 2 hours before the bombing the decision had already been made and the mission was already in motion.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        They speculate it was leaked to draw attention to European freeloading and build support for US actions. It's more Trump creativity.

        1. n00bdragon   2 months ago

          Trump's genius plan was to have his VP ridicule him in (what would be) public and make half his cabinet look like an incompetent clown show for using a non-compliant application to evade record retention laws, butt-dialing a reporting into it, and then not discovering that fact all to make Europe look soft on the Middle East compared to the US? Is Trump interventionist or not?

          This is some 1000D chess or Trump's team clearly, plainly, and unambiguously scored an own-goal on themselves.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

            You’d sound smarter if you weren’t trying to play 36DD chess here.

          2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            "look like an incompetent clown show for using a non-compliant application to evade record retention laws"

            LOL, no, Shrike.

            The Biden administration approved Signal for exactly this use. They encouraged it as a best practice. It was preinstalled on all their phones and they were all automatically signed up for it.

            If you first started with the assumption that everything MSNBC was telling you was a lie, you might be better off.

            1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

              It is amazing watching people still lie about this especially even after the hearings yesterday.

              Mark Warner was the best when he was trying to say outrageous using signal was when he had his foreign signal chats leaked.

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                Was he trying to virtue signal?

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

              ""If you first started with the assumption that everything MSNBC was telling you was a lie, you might be better off.""

              It's not like they would gaslight you about the mental health of a president,

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        Seems a likely possibility based on that. Europe needs to get off the proverbial couch and actually learn how to fight again.

      3. DesigNate   2 months ago

        The problem with the current timeline (and the abject shittyness of the media), is that any one of several scenarios could actually be the truth and none would be surprising:

        1. The administration was playing 4d chess as Poole suggested.

        2. They were sabotaged by the Deep State.

        3. The staffer just royally fucked up.

        4. The staffer is part of some Resistance group ala the first term phone call leak.

        1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

          Has it even been proven he was part of the group and wasn’t just sent the chain later? I find it odd nobody saw an extra person on chat and it tells you when people join or leave a group.

          1. Marshal   2 months ago

            Goldberg's screenshot of the text shows he was a member, and at this point it's not being disputed so there's no reason to believe this.

            Some reporting shows he was listed by his initials, as were other people, so they probably believed he was someone else. There is a specific person identified as the likely intended participant with the same initials.

          2. Nelson   2 months ago

            Yes, and he left partway through. Yet no one wondered who he was and why he left because they are incompetent.

            You should read the thread. It’s been published in its entirety. But we all know you prefer baseless speculation by wingnuts to actual information and facts.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

              So, Nelson, did they all donate to ActBlue?

        2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          I find #4 the most likely to be true. While the chat does seem (at least a little) to be pre-scripted, which would lend credence to Pool's conjecture, a rogue staffer who wants to take down the Trump administration seems more believable to me, at least. We know there were numerous "Resist" elements in his first term, and the stakes are raised even further now by the efforts of the 2nd administration to cut off the spigot of free money to leftist causes and NGOs. The "resist" actors will do anything, I suspect, to finally take Trump down once and for all, including another attempt at assassination. Adding a shitbag reporter to this chat to embarrass the Trump admin and cause a scandal is on the light side of the tactics I suspect they'll engage in to accomplish their goals.

        3. Nelson   2 months ago

          Or, for those who aren’t conspiracy theorists or Trump apologists, there is an obvious take: Trump administration appointees are exactly as bad as anticipated.

          These people are amateurs playing in a professional league. We’re about to spend four years watching Trump retaliate against anyone and anything he dislikes while we get our asses handed to us on the world stage.

          Oh, and we’ll do it while growing the deficit and damaging the economy.

          1. Marshal   2 months ago

            These people are amateurs playing in a professional league.

            It turns out the professionals are corrupt and therefore have to be replaced.

            Oh, and we’ll do it while growing the deficit and damaging the economy.

            Less than when "the professionals" were in charge though.

          2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

            Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, nelson.

            Haha. Whiny bitch.

          3. DesigNate   2 months ago

            The only one that’s kinda conspiracy theoryie (sp?) is #2. And given what we know about the CIA and the shenanigans they’ve gotten up to over their entire existence, it’s not outside the realm of possibility.

            Maybe they are dogshit, but that was the point of my post: there’s no way to be sure (unless you’re a partisan…).

    4. Eeyore   2 months ago

      They developed signal because they needed an encrypted messaging app that was safe from not being readable at any time by the deep state.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Both the use of Signal to coordinate such top-secret attacks, and the ineptitude of adding someone accidentally, raise questions about competence and security.

    Competently hilarious. I do wonder if they had texted the plans directly to the Houthis if the terror group could have changed the outcome much.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      I doubt ineptitude is the right word when malice seems so much more likely given the last 8 years.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

        Take a look at Chumby’s comment above.

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          And my response.

      2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

        I doubt ineptitude is the right word when malice seems so much more likely given the last 8 years.

        It's still ineptitude. I mean they had 8 years to learn.

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          Learn that the CIA hacked their Signal accounts?

          1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

            THEY RUN THE CIA! Nice try at pulling an excuse out of your ass though. How about we start with not using public apps for planning wars?

            I almost feel bad for you that you feel compelled to defend this.

            1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

              You think the Trump administration runs the CIA? Bless your heart.

              1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                And Liz’s link is paywalled so please share if I’m missing anything, but nothing I’ve seen should be considered “planning”.

                1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                  -Pete Hegseth:

                  "1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package)"
                  "1345: 'Trigger Based' F-18 1st Strike Window Starts (Target Terrorist is @ his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME _ also, Strike Drones Launch (MQ-9s)"
                  "1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package)"
                  "1415: Strike Drones on Target (THIS IS WHEN THE FIRST BOMBS WILL DEFINITELY DROP, pending earlier 'Trigger Based' targets)"
                  "1536 F-18 2nd Strike Starts _ also, first sea-based Tomahawks launched."
                  "MORE TO FOLLOW (per timeline)"
                  "We are currently clean on OPSEC"
                  "Godspeed to our Warriors."

                  1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                    Was that in real time? Still a mistake, but not “planning”. All of that could be known immediately after.

                    1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                      Remember when we used to watch us bomb shit in Iraq live on the news?

                    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      It was in real time according to the source.

                      Archive seems to be active again. see if this link works:
                      https://archive.ph/kjZZA

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      Remember when we used to watch us bomb shit in Iraq live on the news?

                      Yeah,

                      I don't think leaking these plans is really a big deal in terms of efficacy. It just reveals carelessness which is reinforced by their conversation. Seeing their motivations and celebrations is the bigger deal to me.

                    4. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

                      Remember when we used to watch us bomb shit in Iraq live on the news?

                      Shit I remember CNN broadcasting Bhutto’s assassination with Arabic banners, making sure the word got out

                    5. Nelson   2 months ago

                      That was, but the text thread started two days before the attack.

                    6. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                      Not war plans.

                      Seems like chat you might expect if the journalist wasn't there. The only thing I'm seeing a careless is the invite of the reporter. Which is no small thing.

              2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                No I don't think they run the CIA...because they are inept. Tulsi is in charge of the CIA and was in the chat.

                1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

                  You don’t think the Trump administration runs the CIA…because they are inept?

                  You really want to stand behind that?

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    Yes

                  2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

                    I don't think Trump admin runs the CIA. Not because they are inept, but because they can screw a sitting president six ways to Sunday.

                    Chuck Schumer warned Trump about that.

                2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                  They don't run the CIA because the CIA has spent the last nine years participating in the FBI's slow running coup.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    That seems like a problem a competent administration would want to get a handle on.

                    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                      Yes.
                      But it won't be fixed with a wave of a magic wand. My view is the CIA needs to be destroyed and it functions turned over to the Department of War.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      I agree except I think a lot of what it does is not stuff a free republic should be doing, but it's impossible to know what it is actually doing. I'm guessing you meant this anyway though.

                    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                      I agree except I think a lot of what it does is not stuff a free republic should be doing

                      Amen.

            2. Idaho-Bob   2 months ago

              Yeah, JFK ran the CIA too.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                Maybe before we waste all day on who controls the CIA, we should establish whether or not it's relevant.

                What's the evidence that the CIA added Goldberg to the chat?

                1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                  So you’re just ignoring half the conversation already underway.

                  TDS is a bitch.

                  1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    What do you mean TDS is a bitch? You get to dismiss any argument against you by just saying "TDS." Seems pretty nice to me.

                    Anyway, what am I missing? Are you referring to the speculation without evidence above?

                    1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                      Evidence that the president doesn’t control the CIA?

                      I guess it’s possible you’d disagree without Trump being president regardless. Either way we’re having very different discussions at this point. You should stick to conversations with sarc.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      We all knew going in that the intelligence community has it out for Trump. Isn't that the whole reason for Tulsi's appointment?

                      I think a competent president should control the CIA. It sure seemed like the Biden administration did. If you're the head of an agency that's sabotaging your administration, end it. A competent president would not be run over roughshod by one of his agencies.

                      I also think it's irrelevant to this leak. The lies and hand waving from the Trump administration are very telling that it was their mistake.

                    3. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                      “It sure seemed like the Biden administration did”

                      LMAO, you’re a clown.

                    4. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                      What do you mean TDS is a bitch?

                      Trump's Deranged Supporters are a bunch of little bitches.

                    5. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                      See, there you go QB. Have fun conversing with sarc.

                2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                  "What’s the evidence that the CIA added Goldberg to the chat?"

                  The fact that national security advisor Waltz's staffer who added Goldberg to the chat is CIA seems evidentiary.

                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    Mike will never admit to there being a deep state, an IC who sees themselves above the president, despite cheering for both.

                    1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                      I’ve been trying to give QB the benefit of the doubt for awhile because I thought he was trying to be sincere, but he’s either so far removed from reality or so dishonest that it’s pointless.

                    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                      Calling someone White Mike is such a horrific smear that I'm loathe to use it unless I'm really sure.

                    3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      What's to admit? Of course there is a deep state.

                    4. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                      Mike is just another templated NPC.

                      Similar behaviors. Doesn't matter if he is or not.

                  2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                    The screenshot shows Mike Waltz added [Goldberg] to the chat. Not sure I buy the CIA junior staffer line. Mike Waltz is not going with that lie story.

                    Mike Waltz takes 'full responsibility' for Signal group chat leak

                    1. DesigNate   2 months ago

                      TBF, that’s what a real leader does, as it’s ultimately their responsibility, even if it was some rando staffer.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                      He should take responsibility if he gave his phone to a staffer when dealing with the highest level people talking about whether or not to bomb a foreign nation.

                    3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                      He took responsibility but he clearly said it's one of his staffers.

            3. jimc5499   2 months ago

              Really? I remember a State Department employee stating that he was going to do what he thought was right, not follow the orders of some political hack who was appointed for four years. That was in a Navy helicopter in the Med. 1986. We were flying them out to the ship when Libya was playing games.

              1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

                I'm not saying underlings don't sabotage their bosses. I'm saying good leaders minimize those issues. Ultimately it is the responsibility of the person at the top to run competent organization.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Does Yemen have a Dept of Edu? If no, everyone in their country is illiterate and it wouldn't matter.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        And the Yemenis must be way behind in DEI.

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          I think their roofing industry has a pretty advanced DEI program.

    3. Bubba Jones   2 months ago

      If I had 2 hours of notice about a targeted strike, I certainly could leave a building and find a bomb shelter.

  11. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    "My first thought was, 'This is a witch hunt,'" one attorney told the Post.

    Democrats did that to the peaceful J6 tourists and you were fine with it. That invalidates your criticism and makes whatever the Trump administration does ok.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Yep, Sarc starts his day with a cup of hot strawfee and a side of false equivalency.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Not even really a strawman or trolling at this point. Just bitter lying without a point except to express his butthurt.
        He obviously didn't even read the Roundup.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

          I sincerely doubt he reads much of anything at all, other than the label on his bottle of Colt 45.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

            What's on the label? Instructions?

            1. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

              It’s so you don’t fuck up at the gas station and walk out with Mountain Dew.

            2. Eeyore   2 months ago

              Don't want to accidentally walk out with a can of michelada.

              1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                Never heard of a Michelada before. Had to look it up. Turns out we call it a "Red Eye" up here, although the tomato juice mix used is always Clamato, and there's not always chilis. There is often Worcestershire sauce too though.

                1. Eeyore   2 months ago

                  Traditionally you just mix your own, but the premixed in a can has become popular.

                  1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

                    Can also just buy flavoring packets now.

                  2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

                    Maybe better for butt-chugging

                2. Chumby   2 months ago

                  Does it go well with Cuban sandwiches?

                  1. Eeyore   2 months ago

                    I think so? I'm honestly not a huge fan. My neighbors like them. To me it is like wasting good tomato juice with crappy beer.

    2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      Poor sarcbot.

    3. Super Scary   2 months ago

      Sounds to me like the attorney is worried he's working for some witches. Ready the ducking stool!

  12. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    one professor said this was "the biggest crisis since the founding of the republic."

    Honest Abe, suck it!

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Well, yes, the judiciary trying to take over the executive is a major constitutional crisis.

      1. Nelson   2 months ago

        Hmmm, I seem to remember learning about the importance (and purpose) of checks and balances in the American system. Which is why it makes perfect sense that you hate them.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

          So tell me, Nelson, can the judiciary take over and perform Article II duties?

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            Only if they judges donate to act blue.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      Yup, the collapse of one tiny part of the welfare state that supports a highly privileged elite is the Biggest Crisis Ever.

      I don't know history well enough, but there's got to be a parallel when some new monarch banished the court leeches that were sucking on his/her predecessor.

  13. Stupid Government Tricks   2 months ago

    What *I* am tired of is this idea that the woke crowd can start a culture war, yet when their victims fight back, that's the real witch hunt.

    Casting couches have been part of theatrical life since ancient Greece, all the transactions were voluntary trades, ENB constantly whines about sex workers oppression, yet actresses who willingly traded sex for work were oppressed by Harvey Weinstein.

    Children can't smoke, drink, do drugs, buy or carry guns, because they're too immature; but if teachers brainwash them into wanting personal pronouns at age 5, parents who misgender their own children are committing felony child abuse.

    Queers for Palestine celebrate terrorists raping and beheading babies and grandmothers, but try to deport them or expel them for blocking Jews from going to classes, and they're the oppressed.

    Fuck that noise.

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

      What *I* am tired of is this idea that the woke crowd can start a culture war, yet when their victims fight back, that's the real witch hunt.

      It makes a difference if the victims are in control of the most powerful government in the history of the world and are using novel interpretations of state power to infringe on free speech rights.

      1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        It’s not free speech to infringe on other people’s rights.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Uh oh, sounds like you need to repeat your DEI sensitivity training course.

        2. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          No, that's a crime and should be prosecuted as a crime.

          1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

            Yet for almost a decade it has not been, so here we are.

            1. Nelson   2 months ago

              In what way, culture warrior?

              1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

                It's pretty ballsy for your crew to start a culture war by pushing your new pervert pederast religion while simultaneously policing speech and suppressing the expression of all other conflicting cultural beliefs; and then call the people who tell you to fuck off "culture warriors".

              2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                Ignorant or lying?

                Either way, impeding students free movement to and from class is a violation of their rights, not a culture war, fascist.

              3. Truthfulness   2 months ago

                You are exactly the type of person Stupid Government Tricks was talking about. It's astonishing to see your lack of awareness.

      2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

        You applauded when the Biden administration used novel interpretations of the law to engage in lawfare against Trump you hypocrite. That invalidates your criticism and makes whatever the Trump administration does ok.

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          Poor sarcbot.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

          Are you trying to make yourself look like an asshole at this point? If that’s your goal, you’re still massively failing at it.

        3. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Dammit. I forgot that I inexplicably applauded that even though I hate Biden more than Trump.

          1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

            It's a pretty simple formula that the Trump defenders use. If someone criticizes Trump for x, simply accuse them of applauding or not criticizing Biden or Democrats when they did the same thing, dismiss them as a hypocrite, pile on some contempt and disdain, and then smugly declare victory. Wins any argument.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

              That is about the most retarded thing I’ve seen from you, Sarc, in a long line of totally retarded shit that you’ve posted here.

            2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

              "It’s a pretty simple formula that the Trump defenders use."

              No. It's a retarded strawman that you invented because you are to lazy to troll coherently.

      3. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Call me crazy, but if I was visiting another country I’d not be running my mouth in support of genocidal minded terrorist organizations, and I definitely wouldn’t be organizing campus “protests” where our rhetoric and actions would be indistinguishable from actual Nazi’s.

        Doubly so if I agreed on my visa application that the government of said country could kick me out for doing so.

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          Same here. I know this guy is an assbag. I have no sympathy for him. What I'm not cool with is the ever creeping erosion of American ideals of free speech.

          I remember about 2 years ago when people here were justifying laws that would ban the removal of political speech online to maintain "the culture of free speech." Where are those voices now?

          And if he broke the law, charge him and I won't waste another keystroke on this jerk.

      4. Vernon Depner   2 months ago

        in control of the most powerful government in the history of the world and are using novel interpretations of state power to infringe on free speech rights.

        Are you talking about the COVID regime?

        1. Quicktown Brix   2 months ago

          I wasn't, but that applies as well.

    2. Nelson   2 months ago

      “What *I* am tired of is this idea that the woke crowd can start a culture war, yet when their victims fight back, that’s the real witch hunt.”

      You seem to be deluded about who started the culture war. Hint: it’s the ones banning books written by authors named Gay, falsely claiming the US is a Christian nation, and railing against free speech that they don’t like.

      Conservatives have always been the aggressors in the culture war because they can’t stand that their quaint and outdated beliefs are largely rejected. So they are going to force everyone to do it their way when they have political power.

      1. Think It Through   2 months ago

        I've been paying attention to culture since the 1970s and this is probably the biggest load of horseshit I have ever seen on the topic.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        Lol. Yeah, don’t you dare squeel your tires in a rainbow crosswalk or those republican culture warriors will….. donate to act blue and take a shot at T?

        What an idiot.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        You just don’t like it when the other side has had enough of your side’s shit and says “no”.

      4. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        “Hint: it’s the ones banning books written by authors named Gay,”

        So liar it is. Fuck off Pedo Nelson.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    Gotta love the fucktards with "Hands Off My Stuff" signs, but referring to stuff paid for with our tax money. Are they that stupid, or just brazenly socialist?

    1. Minadin   2 months ago

      But you repeat yourself.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Yes.

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

      Indeed. They don't really think that through. They assume the Fed money that supports them is just a given that simply exists...somehow.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        And is naturally, rightfully theirs.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Groups representing university professors sued the Trump administration on Tuesday...

    "Let's find a group even less sympathetic than Trump and see if we can get people to side with them."

  16. Minadin   2 months ago

    A lot of libertarians advocate for attaching fewer strings to welfare. Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is starting to take a different tack:

    I don't really have a problem with this. If we have to pay for people's food, why pay for junk food? I'd rather buy them a steak.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 months ago

      If they were libertarians they would be advocating for less welfare not more unaccountability and ultimately spending.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

        But this is Reason, home of the liberal-tarian.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          D.C. establishment liberal-tarian, to be precise.

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            JD Vance is wrong about libertarianism

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      This is old now, but always enlightening...

      https://www.salon.com/2010/03/16/hipsters_food_stamps_pinched/

      In the John Waters-esque sector of northwest Baltimore -- equal parts kitschy, sketchy, artsy and weird -- Gerry Mak and Sarah Magida sauntered through a small ethnic market stocked with Japanese eggplant, mint chutney and fresh turmeric. After gathering ingredients for that evening's dinner, they walked to the cash register and awaited their moments of truth.

      "I have $80 bucks left!" Magida said. "I'm so happy!"

      "I have $12," Mak said with a frown.

      The two friends weren't tabulating the cash in their wallets but what remained of the monthly allotment on their Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program debit cards, the official new term for what are still known colloquially as food stamps.

      Magida, a 30-year-old art school graduate, had been installing museum exhibits for a living until the recession caused arts funding -- and her usual gigs -- to dry up. She applied for food stamps last summer, and since then she's used her $150 in monthly benefits for things like fresh produce, raw honey and fresh-squeezed juices from markets near her house in the neighborhood of Hampden, and soy meat alternatives and gourmet ice cream from a Whole Foods a few miles away.

      "I'm eating better than I ever have before," she told me. "Even with food stamps, it's not like I'm living large, but it helps."

      Mak, 31, grew up in Westchester, graduated from the University of Chicago and toiled in publishing in New York during his 20s before moving to Baltimore last year with a meager part-time blogging job and prospects for little else. About half of his friends in Baltimore have been getting food stamps since the economy toppled, so he decided to give it a try; to his delight, he qualified for $200 a month.

      "I'm sort of a foodie, and I'm not going to do the 'living off ramen' thing," he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he'd prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. "I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it's great that you can get anything."

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        Welfare should be as uncomfortable as possible. Bring back cheese distribution.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          No. Eliminate all government participation in it.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        “She applied for food stamps…”

        Lol. Way back in the old timey days when everyone was a biologist.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      Then you will get the "we pay for their steak and lobster and all I can afford is processed crap" arguments.

      Stop the programs all together and BMI will drop more.

      1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        "we pay for their steak and lobster and all I can afford is processed crap"

        Get a load of Frank Grimes over here.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        I've long advocated that foodstamps (EBT/SNAP) be replaced with a program that allows pretty much ANYONE to obtain a 5lb sack of rice and a 5lb sack of (black, white, red, kidney, whatever) beans pretty much anywhere such things are sold.

        Because I don't want anyone to starve to death, but if you want something more interesting to eat than rice&beans, get a job or maybe stop spending your cash on drugs, beer, cigarettes, tattoos, and X-boxes...

        When I was a kid and whined "I'm hungry..." my mother often said "Well, there's a can of corn in the pantry, I can heat that up for you." I was NEVER "hungry" enough that I ate that corn.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Yeah, I support some kind of low-rent safety net (though I prefer that private i.e. voluntary charities did that). But the whole "welfare state with dignity" and the never-ending socialist equality bullshit have distorted public assistance and largely killed any work incentives among able-bodied but lazy (and righteous) slackers.

        2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          I support the beans and rice approach. We can add cheese for the sake of nostalgia.

        3. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

          I remember a deadly missile of frozen government cheese narrowly missing my head when I was a kid looking for a popsicle.

    4. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      a steak

      With ketchup, the way Ronnie would have wanted.

    5. Eeyore   2 months ago

      Maybe people on welfare can try out the all bug diet.

      1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        I have now reconsidered my beans and rice position.

      2. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

        “Oh snap moms, is that Newribz™?”

        1. Eeyore   2 months ago

          Yummy. Now with only 5% stink bug.

    6. Eeyore   2 months ago

      When they reload your EBT card at the beginning on the month - the first thing to order is a crate of live lobsters from Amazon.

      https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01DHPW3EU/reasonmagazinea-20/.Otn2bi4Ht9gfVfZh52C6Gvf7L1sZGa7dI_ukMDLxKapbyM1R3D0JJEiF7SoFO-Jz4J0QtL7Gx1WABnWNlYjDtgDSALMGSTHqKCMFbqE2PuVYQK9Eqe6UVAtEvc8tafMOPvFZuLCi4VbMG68td2vLL8t9SGSO1SIa-xP-WostCdCOGaEe86L0ZybY5u9WVFgZ1mIyA3IZ49EnaPMiX5PBHQ.GcwfWp-UdStdnUMVi24zh8fhvpB0QZzMa74DbhV4X-o&dib_tag=se&keywords=lobster+live&qid=1743004441&sprefix=lobster+live%2Caps%2C139&sr=8-1

    7. mamabug   2 months ago

      Same. For compassionate reasons, I can justify tax payer money going to keep people from actually starving to death, however it should be highly limited as it isn't a benefit but a necessity.

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

        Soup kitchens. Make them go get it. Walking will burn off calories.

        Or starve. Whichever.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    The conclusion he and much of his inner circle drew from his last time around was that Trump needs to be liberated from constraints.

    The constraints of status quo, which in DC is the most expensive quo there is.

  18. sarcasmic   2 months ago

    But it's an administration that, thus far, has shown itself to be more focused on retribution than on careful, systematic cuts that will actually be made permanent.

    Libertarians against spending cuts.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      You (and the Reason writers) still haven’t figured out that you have to cut the power and distribution apparatus before you can make any meaningful change. If you try to cut spending without laying waste to the power and distribution apparatii, then you might as well have done nothing at all.

    2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      "Libertarians against spending cuts.

      You may be against the tax and spending cuts, but you're also not a libertarian.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        He isn't against either. He complains with every cut, with every firing, every audit.

        Sarc is what is called lying.

        1. DesigNate   2 months ago

          Would anyone besides Trump be able to know which cuts were honest and which ones were retributive? Does it matter?

          1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

            As sarc pretends to say 'fuck you cut spending.'

            Most of what is identified is useless spending. With a large cut of it funding political families and activists, especially on the left.

    3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 months ago

      Systematic cuts that will actually be made permanent?

      When have you ever seen that, and how did it work?
      Focus on what you can do, not the unicorn you desire.

  19. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "What is happening to Columbia now is what the erosion of democracy looks like,"

    And we REALLY want to attack some jews.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

      "Except Prof. Stein, down the hall. As long as he keeps his mouth shut."

  20. Chinny Chin Chin   2 months ago

    The most libertarian answers, here, may not be politically realistic...

    Earth to Liz: libertarian answers have never been politically realistic... that's why the Party performs so poorly in elections. Understanding how to make libertarian answers enduringly acceptable to voters has always been the movement's greatest challenge.

    And, while the current regime may be fulfilling some libertarian dreams, the fact that they're going at it like a pack of retarded monkeys fucking a football is guaranteed to poison libertarianism for new generations of the voting public.

    Libertopia will never be achieved when half the voting public associates the philosophy with poor governance.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Are you usually this retarded, or is today just special?

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        It's his usual.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      "Libertopia will never be achieved when half the voting public associates the philosophy with poor governance."

      TDS-addled imbecilic shits like this assume Trump can just call a big meeting and ask that those not doing a good job to please fire themselves, and those stealing taxpayer money to please return it, and all will be well.
      Stuff your TDS up your ass, shitbag

    3. DesigNate   2 months ago

      A quarter of the country thinks we should lean hard into no shit Socialism and already associate ANY non-Marxist approach as “poor governance”.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

      Haha. You need so badly to be lead around by the chin, doncha?

      Loser.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    Never again tell me that this was an emergency that required immediate military action without congressional authorization.

    First you complain that too many people knew about it. Now you complain that not enough people knew about it. MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.

  22. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "Don't do federal civil rights probes?"

    Especially when it's *only* some Jews who had their rights violated.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Yeah, like Jews have rights.

      Sincerely,

      The anti-semitic Left.

  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'This is not good: The Trump administration is going about federal civil rights investigations rather unusually, per The Washington Post, and appears to be making tip lists of students they seek to deport or otherwise punish.'

    OK, Liz, here's a bigger question: assuming you want a free and open libertarian society, how would you deal with people who actively try to overthrow that society and eliminate freedom? Do you accept your fate since pushing back would defy your libertarian ideals? Or do you accept the contradiction and treat some people differently?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      And let’s keep in mind that they violated the NAP first. If someone else, typically the woke left, violates the NAP first, you do have the right to defend yourself and to make it so they cannot repeat their violation.

      1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        This is my biggest issue with beltway libertarians. They don't seem to understand the NAP is about not being the initial aggressor. They instead believe it means there can never be a response to bad actors.

        1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

          I agree. But I also get frustrated by conservatives (like Steven Crowder) and conservative-adjacents (like Tim Pool) who, more recently, rail against libertarianism as though the beltway libertarians or LPe are the pinnacle of libertarianism and the only type of libertarianism out there. Responding to and defending against NAP violations are not only acceptable and consistent with libertarianism but also NOT a violation of the NAP.

    2. mamabug   2 months ago

      I haven't really been following the whole columbia thing because, well, complete lack of interest but...

      It sounds like the list is being made of people who harassed America students/professors based on their religion & ethnicity not those who were merely saying 'yeah, not fond of what Israel is doing.' The two do not seem to be the same.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    ...(like how vibrators are sometimes referred to as massagers).

    (Wait. THEY ARE???)

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      Well, they do massage that which is difficult to find.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        An honest politician?

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        I think the term is hard to find.

      3. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        Speak for yourself.

      4. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

        It's really just a myth.

  25. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    "My first thought was, 'This is a witch hunt,'"

    Said George Wallace.

    Go after them not for their speech but for their real and provable conduct. The protesters denied students access to buildings that they had paid for. If that gets them deported, well best not to violate their host countries fundamental right to travel.

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    A lot of libertarians advocate for attaching fewer strings to welfare.

    They do???

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      The fewest strings being, no welfare at all.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        Ditto.

  27. Chumby   2 months ago

    This new age verification would cause dildos to plunge?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Seems like they have a lot of market penetration.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

        Sales could vibrate.

        1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

          Butt will it be enough to plug the gap?

          1. Chumby   2 months ago

            Think they’ll remain in the red?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

              Maybe, but I think they’ll be tickled pink.

              1. Chumby   2 months ago

                Young women better snatch them up before this goes into effect. It could result in a short term stimulus.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

                  They’ll be busy beavers.

                  1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

                    What about government relief?

                    1. Chumby   2 months ago

                      Something would smell fishy if that were to occur.

                    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

                      Wait till Trump announces reciprocal tariffs on Chinese lubricants. If you think the childless cat ladies are pissed off now just wait.

                    3. Kungpowderfinger   2 months ago

                      This is a slippery slope which will only lead to more requirements being strapped on

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Not sure what it is about dildos in Texas

      https://onwardtexas.org/trending/is-it-illegal-to-own-more-than-six-dildos-in-texas-yes-it-is/

      P.S. Arizona seems to have considered a substantially similar law in the 80's but it didn't pass.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Nobody needs more than five dildos.

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          Imagine a woman that could simultaneously use more than five dildos at once; that would be the stuff of legend!

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Okay, after the obvious we have the urethra, the nostrils and the ear canals. That's seven.

        Where's the other illegal ones supposed to go? The tear ducts? I'm at a loss. Can you fit one in a sweat pore?

        1. Chumby   2 months ago

          It would be a shocker if she could fit more than two in the pink and one in the stink.

          1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

            The minivan - two in the front and five in the back.

            1. Chumby   2 months ago

              Fist should interject here.

  28. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    " Those suits, including two involving a Columbia student and a recent graduate who are green card holders, aim to stop individual deportation proceedings."

    At this point, I want Trump to just pull out all the stops and invoke this law (below). Just to see what judge finds that he doesn't have to authority to "find" and "by proclamation" and "for such period as he shall deem necessary" and "any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate" because orange man bad.

    8 USC 1182: Inadmissible aliens

    (f) Suspension of entry or imposition of restrictions by President

    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

      The judge will envoke the "But Trump!" exemption.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        The formerly unknown amendment written in invisible ink.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        One of them literally went back to old reliable, animus.

  29. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

    Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul is

    running and being financially supported by John Mackey.

  30. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "Stop federal funding of colleges and universities. "

    Some judges will not only block this effort with a nationwide injunction, but will probably find that the current funding is too low and allocate more money for them.

  31. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

    “students accused of harassing Jewish students and faculty or otherwise engaging in antisemitic conduct.”

    One of these things is not like the other.

  32. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    "A lot of libertarians advocate for attaching fewer strings to welfare."

    WTF? No, we advocate for eliminating welfare, or at least reducing it to the bare minimum and using "beggars can't be choosers" logic to e.g., remove fast-food like McD's from allowed EBT spending.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On Sarc’s List!)   2 months ago

      We shouldn’t be encouraging people to look like JB Pritzker.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

        I was once called out as "truly malicious, ignorant misinterpretation...deserves only contempt" for daring to point out that there is a correlation between obesity and foodstamps (e.g., https://www.huffpost.com/entry/food-stamps-obesity_n_7204824 "Food Stamp Recipients More Likely To Be Obese, Study Finds").

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          Tldr: does it account for people on food stamps being more likely to spend the day sitting on their couch, or does it just address nutrition value?

        2. Fats of Fury   2 months ago

          There are plenty of skinny people on food stamps. You can usually find them in front of grocery stores trying to sell them for cash to buy crack.

    2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      It was about a month ago I finally said, damnit, Liz certainly isn't perfect, but she's the best available at Reason, and I shouldn't make perfect the enemy of the good. Right after that Liz began spouting more and more takes that align with the Mangu-Ward type of "libertarianism."

      It's my fault, guys. I jinxed it, so I'm responsible for this downturn in the quality of Liz's work. I'll try not to do that in the future.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

        Yeah and my portfolio is taking a dump. I blame you for that as well.

  33. Moonrocks   2 months ago

    Broke: egg prices

    Woke: signal usage

  34. Spiritus Mundi   2 months ago

    ...arresting and threatening noncitizen students and faculty members for protesting on campus deprives U.S. citizens of their right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives...

    A right given by the 10.7th amendment?

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 months ago

    You can read that classified material in The Atlantic!

    The bigger scandal is the rampant use of emojis in that tldr thread.

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      I also love how there was, literally, nothing classified in them. Nor even remotely note-worthy.

  36. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   2 months ago

    I compleatly agree with the protester in the photo with the sign "has off our universities". I'm glad we agree the feds should pull all funding and direction

  37. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    Rep. Crockett calls Gov. Abbot "gov hot wheels", mocking his wheelchair-necessitating paralysis.

    https://x.com/ScottPresler/status/1904561295329788291

    ThePersistence
    @ScottPresler
    I don’t use this word often, but Jasmine Crockett truly is wicked.

    To call Greg Abbott “Governor Hot Wheels” is cruel, contemptible & speaks to your lack of character.

    A tree fell on Abbott when he was 26 years old — paralyzing him from the waist down.

    His loving wife stayed by his side & they have a lovely adopted daughter.

    If Jasmine Crockett represents the democrat party, I want nothing to do with democrats.

    Despicable.

    ---------

    "Jasmine Crockett is the perfect spokesperson for today’s Democrats — out of touch and completely unhinged. When you’ve got no message and no agenda, all that’s left is hate," Mike Marinella, spokesperson for the National Republican Congressional Committee said.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      "But Trump mocked a disabled reporter!! I saw it on CNN!!!"

      I really hope at some point someone in congress calls her a low IQ, rachet ass hood rat, and enters it into the record.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

        Crockett has already had a floor fight with MTG and clearly won the exchange.

        Greene called ‘bleach blonde bad-built butch body’ in House screaming match where ‘drinking was involved’
        Both Republicans and Democrats said on Friday drinking was taking place

        https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-aoc-crockett-b2546986.html

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

          Lol, wut?

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

          turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          clearly won the exchange

          shrike thinks he wins the exchanges he has here.

        4. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          We already knew you were trash, you don’t need to convince us.

      2. Ajsloss   2 months ago

        While the low IQ is spot on, the "ratchet ass hood rat" part is an act.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apr1HJ9er04

        1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

          Seems so.

          https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/03/25/jasmine-crockett-is-becoming-the-leader-of-the-democratic-party-n3801141

          But the person rocketing to the top of the list in recent weeks has been Jasmine Crockett, who apparently believes that she has an advantage over AOC in the race to the top of the heap: darker skin and the ability to adopt a more ridiculously ethnic accent than AOC's.

          AOC has to step up her game. While she mouths all the economic and social Marxist nostrums that are common on the left, Crockett explicitly adopts a facade of being from the streets, as if that adds to her street cred.

          Crockett actually comes from a very privileged background, speaks unaccented standard English flawlessly, went to prestigious private schools, and became a lawyer. None of which qualifies her for leadership in the modern Democratic Party, even with its elite's focus on credentials.

          Stupidity, anger and passion are the tickets to the top, so Crockett mimics these qualities well, and adds in a strong dose of personal nastiness to give a bit of spice to her appeal.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

            Girlboss fight!

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

              Subtract clothes and add mud please.

              1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

                Subtract mud and add pillows.

                1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

                  ++++++++

                2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

                  Jello.

              2. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

                Please subtract the absurd, fake eyelashes as well.

                Does anyone find that look attractive? I certainly find it repulsive.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

                  Agreed. It’s a repulsive look as well as too much makeup. You’re a woman, not a doll.

      3. damikesc   2 months ago

        But she's not that. She's FAKE ghetto hood rat. She grew up rich as shit and went to elite schools her entire life.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Where I am sure she was constantly oppressed.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Crocket also rooting for Canada and Mexico in their "fight" against Trump..."The fact that I am rooting for Canada and that I am rooting for Mexico a lot is really wild" “They are really the ones that are speaking truth to power right now,”

    3. DesigNate   2 months ago

      The way you defeat shit like that is to lean in to it.

      He should get a local artist to make him some sweet wheels to put on the chair, get a cool helmet and zoom around the capital.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Claims now she was NOT mocking his wheelchair...

      "I was thinking about the planes, trains, and automobiles he used to transfer migrants into communities led by Black mayors, deliberately stoking tension and fear among the most vulnerable.

      Yeah, sure you were.

  38. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

    As expected, appeals courts are staying some of the "orange man bad" nationwide TROs and injunctions. Fourth circuit and Ninth circuit have issues stays of some of those rulings regarding USAID, DEI, and refugee actions.

    1. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

      WindyCityNotALawyer hardest hit. When even the ninth is issuing stays for the injunctions.

  39. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    '"What is happening to Columbia now is what the erosion of democracy looks like," Virginia Page Fortna, a political science professor, told The New York Times.'

    100% correct, if you use the left's definition of "democracy". That refers to an authoritarian system which imposes very specific ideologies through a vast government-centric network.

  40. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "...My first thought was, 'This is a witch hunt,'" one attorney told the Post..."

    Right up there with 'somebody said'; bullshit rumor-mongering.

  41. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

    How do you Peanuts feel about Donnie's War on Yemen?

    (to be fair it doesn't match my criteria for a "war". But neither did the drone Obama dropped on Libya which you howlers still call an Obama "war")

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

      Is it really a war when all you’re doing is keeping a shipping lane open?

    2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      I didn't see you complaining when Biden dropped bombs on Yemen you hypocrite. That invalidates anything you say and makes whatever Trump does ok.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        Odd, Sarc just tried to drop a strawman bomb on Pluggo, delivering it on a false equivalency.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          Nah, he's trying for a reach-around.

      2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        Poor sarcbot.

      3. DesigNate   2 months ago

        Did anyone here complain about him responding to their aggression?

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          Dude, I'm just following a formula to mock asshats who appeal to hypocrisy. Don't take it seriously.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

            Dude, I'm just mocking your lazy, retarded ass for doing so as you're the biggest hypocrite here.

    3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

      turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      I was also okay with Pres. Jeffersons actions against the Barbary pirates.

      1. damikesc   2 months ago

        He's upset because Houthis, like him, like to fuck young kids.

        1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

          They’re also racist.

    5. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

      the drone Obama dropped on Libya

      *This is what shrike actually believes*

  42. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "Groups representing university professors sued the Trump administration on Tuesday, alleging that its practice of arresting and threatening noncitizen students and faculty members for protesting on campus deprives U.S. citizens of their right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives"

    Cool. Is this like advanced country governments who do not arrest and deport rapists because they don't want to deprive their citizens of the right to engage with foreign-born sex offenders?

    1. Ajsloss   2 months ago

      One person's getting jerked off on is another person's getting cultured.

    2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 months ago

      So, not a word about Columbia SJP timing their activity with foreknowledge of 10/7 attacks

      1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        For those unaware:

        “The families of the hostages are suing pro-Hamas organizations operating here in the US. The lawsuit contains a bombshell revelation: “three minutes before Hamas began its attack on October 7th, Columbia SJP posted on Instagram “We are back.” Before the 10/7 posting, Columbia SJP’s account had been inactive for months, only to be suspiciously reactivated minutes before the 10/7 terror attacks. The timing seems too coincidental to be a coincidence.

        If there are organizations here in the US that had advance knowledge of the 10/7 attacks, which led to the murder of American citizens, the American people have a right to know the full truth.”

        https://x.com/RitchieTorres/status/1904672320016544139

  43. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Senate Bill 3003, which would require age verification for dildo purchases, was introduced in the Texas Senate by Sen. Angela Paxton (R–Allen), wife of the state's Attorney General Ken Paxton.'

    I guess Ken has been away from home too long (or is just not long enough).

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

      We don't call it Alabama-stan for nothing.

      Texas gets their morals from Alabama.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        I’ll let you remember that Deliverance was filmed in Georgia. Now squeal like the piggy you are.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

        And where do you get your "morals"?

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

          The guy who drives the "free hugs" van.

      4. Super Scary   2 months ago

        Who is "we"? You have a mouse in your pocket?

      5. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        Where would one get their morals that would lead them to post a link to child porn? And by “one” I mean you.

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 months ago

      Maybe he resembles a Ken doll?

  44. Marshal   2 months ago

    Read them for yourself.

    I'd love to, but they're paywalled.

  45. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'Duke is pissed off at The White Lotus for using their trademark in some difficult scenes.'

    Like rich but not too smart people spending lots of money on pretentious activities in a sheltered enclave?

  46. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    'A lot of libertarians advocate for attaching fewer strings to welfare.'

    WTF?

    I mean, I fully support people spending their own money on whatever they want, including food, drink, and drugs that will accelerate their demise.

    But "welfare" is not their money. And before we debate what strings are reasonable, how about we just abolish it?

  47. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

    "The Scaling Era: An Oral History of AI, 2019-2025."

    Meh. Call us when Skynet publishes "An AI History of Oral."

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 months ago

      Gimme dat, give me
      De chromium cob.

  48. Marshal   2 months ago

    "Groups representing university professors sued the Trump administration on Tuesday, alleging that its practice of arresting and threatening noncitizen students and faculty members for protesting on campus deprives U.S. citizens of their right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives,"

    Now free speech is even supposed to prevent deporting criminals. What can't it do? Of course what's most offensive about this is that left wingers openly oppose free speech yet now they pretend it's their most cherished right, and all it took to switch positions was changing who is being protected: terrorism supporting foreigners or non-left Americans.

    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

      Reason was cool with the Biden administration opposing free speech, those hypocrites. That invalidates their criticism and makes whatever the Trump administration does ok.

      1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        Sarcasmic was cool with the Biden administration opposing free speech, the hypocrite.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        Bitter, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.

      3. Marshal   2 months ago

        It's refreshing to see you openly embrace that you only care when Reps violate free speech. But it does make me wonder why you continually accuse others of supporting teams and not principles when you embrace that yourself. Are you bipolar? Do you think a substantial portion of readers is new to each comment so they don't have this background information?

        1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

          It's refreshing to see you only embrace that you only care when Dems violate free speech. But it does make me wonder why you continually accuse others of supporting teams and not principles when you embrace that yourself. Are you bipolar? Do you think a substantial portion of readers is new to each comment so they don't have this background information?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

            It’s refreshing to see you only embrace that you only care enough to copy someone else’s comment and then try to turn it around on them like some sort of victory. Trump really got under your skin, didn’t he, dudette.

          2. Marshal   2 months ago

            Cute, I see you've progressed to 8th grade argumentation. That's quite an improvement for you.

            1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

              Pretty funny coming from someone who makes stuff up to argue against. You'd get a fat F in 8th grade debate.

              1. Marshal   2 months ago

                Again we see all you can do is try to assert the conclusion from authority without presenting evidence.

                Left wingers are historically poor at providing evidence because they come of age exclusively in left-controlled institutions which intentionally skip that step as it does not support their positions. This is why they are unable to function outside their institutions and need special rules to he them.

                1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                  I’m not a left winger you ignorant clown. You’re making stuff up to argue against, proving my point. Mostly because you're so fucking stupid that you think anyone who disagrees with Trump must be a left winger. Your feeble brain cannot grasp the concept of not being on either team. Because you lack the cognitive ability to grasp what is in front of you, you make stuff up to argue against. Then you accuse me of being stupid and mental, because you are stupid and mental. It's quite entertaining. And pathetic. Mostly pathetic.

                  1. Pepin the short   2 months ago

                    Jesus look at the weasel go.

                  2. Marshal   2 months ago

                    And yet your entire comment history shows you have literally never applied to the left the standards you use to criticize the right. Never. So your claim I made it up is false since it is based on your history as I have pointed out hundreds of times without effective rebuttal. If you are what you claim to be applying consistent standards would be natural, you wouldn't even have to try. But somehow after hundreds of thousands of comments we're still waiting for the first occurrence. Even your signature comment mocks the very idea of applying consistent principles.

                    This includes your current complaint that I make stuff up. In the very same comment you wrongly assert I do this and it reflects some major flaw on my part you do make up stuff about me. I don't say you are on a team because it's impossible to not be one one, I say you are on team blue because every comment you make is in their interest which is an impossibility if you're not on their team. In fact you are the one who routinely asserts the impossibility of non-alignment as you did by claiming opposing weaponized government against Reps must mean supporting weaponized government against Dems.

                    Further I don't accuse you of being stupid and mental, I accuse you of being a propagandist specifically because I don't think it's possible you could be stupid enough to not know you are refusing to apply consistent standards and principles when you change them on literally every subject.

                    But then again none of this matters to you because you're not interested in the truth, only in how you can help Team Blue.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                      Biden did not have a cult of personality to push back against. Obama did. And while he was president his followers were convinced I was a hardcore conservative who hates black people.
                      Trumpism is now the prevailing cult of personality, and its followers see me as a caricature of what they hate.
                      You’re just another follower who does the same thing.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 months ago

                      This includes your current complaint that I make stuff up.

                      Yes. I sarcastically said:

                      Reason was cool with the Biden administration opposing free speech, those hypocrites. That invalidates their criticism and makes whatever the Trump administration does ok.

                      to mock those who use appeals to hypocrisy.

                      You responded with:

                      It’s refreshing to see you openly embrace that you only care when Reps violate free speech.

                      because you have to make shit up to have something to argue against.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

                      Dudette, that's not sarcasm. Shall we add that to the list of words you fail to understand?

                    4. Marshal   2 months ago

                      Biden did not have a cult of personality to push back against. Obama did,

                      Personality cults don't drive this, ideology does. Your misidentification is driven by your continued mission to distract from the issue.

                      while he was president his followers were convinced I was a hardcore conservative who hates black people

                      Sure. But if you were a libertarian you would know that left wingers don't recognize a difference between libertarians and conservatives. They think we're conservatives who don't want to admit how racist they are. Come to think of it that's just what you say also.

                      because you have to make shit up to have something to argue against.

                      Noting that you have never applied consistent principles between teams is simply a fact tested hundreds of times without a single failure.

              2. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

                Sarc, you’re the jackass who posts logical debate fallacies every fucking day here. The projection off your comment is stunning.

  49. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

    Full Signal text chain has been released.

    There's nothing in it but the pros and cons of striking now vs waiting a month.

    It's not war plans. It's not classified info.

    It's a conversation, and nice to see cabinet members and staffers hashing out the best way to move forward.

    I also love that JD Vance can NOT stand Europe.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 months ago

      Will add in what others above have said, way too many emojis used for grown men

      1. Longtobefree   2 months ago

        Emojis are for those who lack a command of the English language.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 months ago

          And also for those who want teen girls to like them.

      2. JesseAz (Prime Meanster of Sarcasia)   2 months ago

        ='(

      3. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        Is it wrong that I use the thumbs up emoji in response to my wife on a regular basis?

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

          Depends on where you're proposing to put the thumb.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

      Actually seems like an intelligent conversation with varied points of view. Not clear on what's purportedly classified and I'm sure not going to pay The Atlantic to find out. I'm not really following this story closely because it looks like another irrelevant media freakout to me. My knee jerk reaction is that this is a deep state setup. I mean Jeffrey Goldberg? Really?

    3. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Babylon Bee: Investigation Reveals DOGE Had Just Laid Off The Guy Whose Job It Was To Make Sure Jeffrey Goldberg Wasn’t In The War Group Chat

      1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

        Judge orders DOD to return Jeffrey Goldberg to Signal group.

        1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

          lol

  50. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

    This explains why Buttplug doesn't understand finance.

    NEWS: The Financial Times has issued an apology after suggesting that Tesla had shady accounting with $1.4 billion "missing."

    In reality, the Financial Times just didn't understand the accounting, and an expert reached out to them to explain it to them.

    FT: "One unavoidable conclusion is that at a certain point it’s necessary to trust the auditor’s judgment."

    Source: https://www.ft.com/content/d2711678-af23-4b71-852b-1ef2e932e14b

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      At least they offered an apology unlike other mainstream media who don't understand what they are talking about all the time and couldn't care less as long as their base is content with their BS. Thankfully, that base is shrinking.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   2 months ago

      I know a lot more about finance than you ever will - you idiot Canuck.

      I saw that story and immediately discarded it. The real reason to short Tesla is that their reported "profit" of a measly .70ish per share was mostly due to selling carbon credits and the rise in their BTC value.

      Tesla is a garbage heap.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        Your lies are getting worse, Turd. They’re not even halfway believable at this point.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 months ago

        I know a lot more about finance

        As evidenced by your 500 percent gain on that savings account you made up bragged to us about, right?

      3. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        "a measly .70ish per share"

        Lol. Thanks for putting an exclamation point on my assertion.

        Also, I wish all my stocks were in this much "trouble"

        You just have no clue what you're even reading when you do your morning BlueSky visit, do you.

        Anyway, back to your economic claims, perhaps you can explain why there were huge downward revisions to median new home sale prices with Nov, Dec and Jan all revised dramatically lower

      4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

        turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Marshal   2 months ago

      I'd like to know who fed him this story as a sign of fraud - there's a 100% chance it's a left wing NGO. Pro Publica for example published similar misleading reports on both Trump and Romney's tax returns, plus they were the NGO who received illegal leaks of confidential information from the IRS. They were caught both recently receiving business information and during the Tea Party suppression campaign regarding those NGOs. There's no reason to believe such leaks aren't a continuous process.

      But ultimately this is yet another propaganda mission trying to portray normal events as sinister by taking advantage of the public's lack of independent context.

  51. Marshal   2 months ago

    One is that Trump's circle was not effective enough in working the system to achieve its objectives in the first term. It lacked a worked-out policy agenda and legal strategy, and needed to hone its command of the tools at the president's disposal.

    Levin ignores that the bureaucracy itself was the problem which Trump is addressing this term by replacing it. It's not retribution, it's recognizing it performs an invalid function: protecting left wing policy preferences. Eliminating this corruption is exactly the right strategy.

  52. Number 2   2 months ago

    Can we please stop hyperventilating over the Comstock Act? It only applies to the U.S. mail. That was a significant obstacle in the 1860s, But in 2025, prohibition from mail is merely an annoyance.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

      I take it you saw a few comments by Hank. He obsesses over the Comstock Act.

      1. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

        I'm surprised he didn't respond to the bat-signal of Liz mentioning the Comstock Act. Figured he'd be all over the comments today crowing about it. Perhaps the nursing home took away his internet access.

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 months ago

          You guys are missing the true beauty of being hank: if anything he said was even remotely currently topical he just wouldn’t be hank.

  53. damikesc   2 months ago

    "The most libertarian answers, here, may not be politically realistic: Stop federal funding of colleges and universities. Don't create detailed watchlists of students, ostensibly to more easily deport them for their First Amendment–protected protest activity. (Maybe also: Don't do federal civil rights probes?)"

    If we pursue that policy, then we should also end all student visas. Given that the issue is the students' VIOLATE their visa applications and Reason is completely on their side in doing so.

    Just end the problem. No more student visas. Period.

  54. damikesc   2 months ago

    "Scenes from New York: "Groups representing university professors sued the Trump administration on Tuesday, alleging that its practice of arresting and threatening noncitizen students and faculty members for protesting on campus deprives U.S. citizens of their right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives," reports The New York Times. "The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Massachusetts, takes a broader approach than a flurry of other recent lawsuits challenging the federal government's deportation policies on college campuses. Those suits, including two involving a Columbia student and a recent graduate who are green card holders, aim to stop individual deportation proceedings.""

    Let me guess --- these geniuses did not READ their application and terms of their visas.

    Tough shit.

    Deport them. In a country or over the ocean. I do not care where.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

      Let me guess --- these geniuses did not READ their application and terms of their visas.

      They probably thought it was no different than and with the same penalties as checking the box on a software update.

  55. damikesc   2 months ago

    "A lot of libertarians advocate for attaching fewer strings to welfare."

    Libertarians for welfare?

    How, PRECISELY, do they differentiate from Democrats?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 months ago

      Well, the ones we see here differentiate themselves from Democrats by asserting that they are NOT Democrats. Often, they claim to be the *only* *true* libertarians. Pretty much all other actions and statements align with Democrats.

    2. markm23   2 months ago

      It is possible to be libertarian but to recognize that we missed the chance to prevent federal welfare about 60 years ago. Reducing the damage it does then becomes rational.

  56. Chumby   2 months ago

    The Scatlantic Security Flaw?

    Reportedly names and password info for all users is available to the public:

    https://x.com/TheGeorgeHQ/status/1904643957382082846

    1. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      Funny.

  57. Longtobefree   2 months ago

    Just for the record:
    Citing the Washington Post undermines your credibility.

  58. Gaear Grimsrud   2 months ago

    Wasn't Liz complaining a few days ago that that Kahlil dude was having his 1a rights violated? And then we found out he was on the Hamas hotline on October 7? I'll take a wait and see on the civil rights investigation at this point.

    1. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

      Yeah, it's like the Trump administration is letting the Dems tie their own nooses right now.

      This might not have been a problem when they still had media hegemony, but things are different now.

  59. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "under threat of losing $400 million in grants and other types of federal support"

    If Trump were serious about eliminating the Department of Education - a goal I would fully support - he would not use the threat of withdrawing financial support for educational institutions in order to achieve a social goal! He would simply cancel all financial support for all educational institutions. Previous socialist administrations have used the financial "carrot and stick" for the same purpose with great success. Just another example of two of his campaign promises that mutually exclude each other.

  60. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "But one of these things is worse than the others"

    I'm getting a little tired of one of the few previously libertarian sources of news and comments sliding dangerously close to unprincipled bias against a particular President. If the writer starts from the premise that almost everything government does lately is bad for liberty; that government scope and power has increased so far that anything any President might try to do in the direction of rolling back government scope and power will, unavoidably, violate some theoretical fundament Constitutional principle in the process; then "Reason" writers would come off a lot more "principled" and less "derangement syndrome" here.

  61. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    “deprives U.S. citizens of their right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives”

    Um, guys? There IS no such right! You have a right to associate with whomever you want to associate with, but you cannot continue to associate with someone who is no longer HERE. Whether or not non-citizen visitors have the same First Amendment rights as citizens have; and what limitations the Congress might have imposed on the Executive branch when it granted it the authority to deport non-citizen visitors; will likely be tested by the courts at some point. Almost all of these “lawsuits” seem to qualify as “nuisance” legal actions and someone should consider what punishments their perpetrators might be liable for. We already know that government officials have absolute immunity for their own actions.

  62. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

    From Reason’s most libertarian evar:

    Colorado House passes bill regulating semiautomatic firearms, banning ‘bump stocks’

    Governor McDreamy commented:

    “Governor Polis appreciates the sponsors working with our administration on amendments to help make Colorado safer while upholding our freedom and Colorado’s rich hunting and sport shooting culture and will review the final version of the bill,”
    “Governor Polis remains focused on improving public safety including gun safety”

    1. damikesc   2 months ago

      Ain't he DREAMY?

    2. Don't get eliminated   2 months ago

      2A is not a primary concern of Reason’s.

    3. Jefferson Paul   2 months ago

      I don't understand Reason's obsession with Polis and belief that he's the most libertarian mayor of a major city. I don't see how he's even libertarian adjacent. The same Reasonistas who laud his libertarian bona fides would scoff at the notion that Trump is even libertarian adjacent. Now, personally, I don't consider Trump libertarian (even if some aspects of his administration align with libertarian goals), and I certainly don't think Polis is libertarian.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

        They love Polis as governor because he’s into weed and food trucks and buttsex and none of that icky real libertarian shit like free speech, limited government, or eliminating departments and taxes.

      2. Mother's Lament - (Sarcasian Meanister of Foreign Affairs)   2 months ago

        As animals of the DC establishment they are desperate for another establishmentarian to say "sure I'm libertarian" so they can still carry on the conceit.

        Polis was their great white hope.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (Sarcasia’s disloyal opposition)   2 months ago

          They're also desperate for a Democrat to claim he's a libertarian. Note how they treat Rand Paul and Thomas Massie constantly.

  63. MWAocdoc   2 months ago

    "It lacked a worked-out policy agenda and legal strategy"

    There IS no "legal strategy" that can prevail over a firmly entrenched and biased judiciary dedicated to preserving the deep state! Thus:

    "Trump needs to be liberated from constraints"

    is a true statement. But not from ALL constraints, just the legal ones. When 99% of the laws is unconstitutional to start with, trying to follow unconstitutional laws would be a ridiculous restraint.

  64. Marshal   2 months ago

    https://x.com/amjadt25/status/1904630267030974835

    Gazans are protesting Hamas, but that's not the most important point. The most important point is that the media sat on the news hoping the protests would disperse and they could minimize the public relations damage this will do to their shared cause.

  65. Weigel's Cock Ring   2 months ago

    I thought it was ENB who had the dildo beat fully covered for Reason (you know that anyone with a "husband" that looks like hers owns a few dozen).

  66. I, Woodchipper   2 months ago

    he calls DOGE "a frantic and haphazard campaign cooked up just before Trump's inauguration, rooted in an unfocused desire to punish the bureaucracy, and farmed out to vainglorious dilettantes who are learning about government on the fly.")

    Looks like someone lost their USAID money...

  67. Mickey Rat   2 months ago

    Expressions of antisemitism are indications of emerging Naziism that must be stamped out at all costs.

    Unless the antisemitism is from the Left. Then it is invioble free speech.

  68. Think It Through   2 months ago

    "My first thought was, 'This is a witch hunt,'" one attorney told the Post.

    Which is the correct activity to conduct when there are actual witches to be eradicated.

  69. See.More   2 months ago

    "Mostly peaceful." /le sigh

    . . . for their First Amendment–protected protest activity.

    When they harass other students people, that is not "First Amendment-protected protest activity." That is assault.

    When they occupy and control spaces (Libraries, buildings, etc) students people, that is not "First Amendment-protected protest activity." That is trespass.

    When they paint graffiti, burn things, break shit, that is not "First Amendment-protected protest activity." That is vandalism and destruction of private property.

  70. bobby oshea   2 months ago

    "right to engage with foreign-born peers and to hear their perspectives."

    I assume this will be immediately thrown out for frivolity and ridiculousness.

  71. Ed Reppert   2 months ago

    Two things: If the president of Columbia University is lying to the government (saying she will comply with various requirements when she has no intention of doing so) in order to get money from the government, that's a crime and she ought to be arrested, tried, and if convicted, jailed. Two: the only way to *know* if the information disclosed in that Signal chat is classified is to *see* the determination of classification. Has anyone in media done that, or are they simply assuming that it's classified because they think it should be?

  72. Thought about __ all my life   2 months ago

    READERS, know your villain, it's OBAMA

    Linda McMahon: «The people in the Department of Education were really involved with student loans. And you know, student loans used to be in the private sector. It was President Obama who brought them in and placed them under the Department of Education. Which is not a bank. So the whole collection process, etc., is handled through third-party providers that you pay a fee to for helping make that happen.

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