It's Not Journalists' Job To Protect Government Secrets
With the controversy over the leaked White House group chat, mainstream media have been treating secrecy as a virtue and disclosure as a vice. That’s a dangerous game.

You don't have to be more Catholic than the Pope, as the saying goes. But over the past week, an accidental leak to The Atlantic has transformed journalists into bigger defenders of government secrecy than the government itself. It has created the bizarre situation of journalists asking the White House to keep them away from juicy, fresh, newsworthy information.
To recap: National Security Adviser Mike Waltz accidentally added Atlantic Editor in Chief Jeffrey Goldberg to a White House group chat for planning an upcoming military campaign in Yemen. After Goldberg reported on the existence of the group chat on Monday—without revealing much about its contents—the embarrassed Trump administration downplayed how sensitive it was.
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard, and CIA Director John Ratcliffe all insisted that there was nothing "classified" in the text messages. On Wednesday morning, The Atlantic published the full transcript, with commentary complaining that this information would "typically" be classified and could have harmed U.S. troops had it "fallen into the wrong hands" before the campaign began.
Although The Atlantic meant to make the White House eat its words, the decision to publish on Wednesday also made several journalists eat theirs. Earlier in the week, mainstream media had praised Goldberg's "patriotic" decision not to report on the substance of the war plans.
"If somebody else had been added to this group chat, there were real national security concerns here," CNN Chief Media Analyst Brian Stelter said on TV. "Goldberg was patriotic. He didn't tell anybody. He didn't go out and share the war plans, of course. He just listened in and tried to figure out if this was real or not, and apparently it was all too real."
Meanwhile Stelter's colleague, CNN Chief National Security Analyst Jim Sciutto, spent his time arguing with Leavitt that the information should have been classified. Washington Post reporter Carol Leonnig similarly praised Goldberg "for treating the info more carefully than apparently the 'principles' overseeing U.S. security," referring to the White House Principals Committee.
Respect for government secrecy is apparently a virtue—which would make intrepid reporting a vice. Could the Pentagon Papers have been reported today? How about the secret National Security Agency mass surveillance programs leaked by Edward Snowden? Many mainstream journalists made it clear this week that they would avoid exposing such scandals, or only do so in order to push the government to be more careful with its secrets.
Independent journalist Ken Klippenstein quipped in his newsletter that those reporters are acting as "self-appointed counterintelligence officers" and shirking their "duty to their client, the public." They're also acting against their own self-interest. Pushing for more restrictions on information and less forgiveness for leaks is a dangerous game for journalists to play, especially given the Trump administration's use of the Espionage Act against WikiLeaks and Gabbard's more recent threats to prosecute leakers.
After all, some of the most important stories in American journalism—including the Pentagon Papers and the Snowden leaks—came from sources defying classification laws. There has historically been an "uneasy stalemate" between freedom of the press and the national security state in America, writes historian Sam Lebovic in State of Silence. While the government runs a tight ship internally and punishes employees for violating secrecy, information that breaks containment and reaches journalists has generally been fair game to talk about.
The 2016 election was a turning point in the media's view of its own role. Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton was dogged by scandals around her mishandling of classified emails, while Republican candidate Donald Trump benefited from leaks of Clinton campaign documents, some of which were allegedly released by Russian military hackers. The feeling that journalists had "failed" the "test" of 2016, and had to be more conscious of the national security implications of leaks, grew.
Through successive incidents—the discovery of Hunter Biden's abandoned laptop, the leak of J.D. Vance's campaign vetting documents, Trump's alleged bathroom hoarding of classified files, and the Discord document dump—mainstream media seemed to be becoming more defensive of government secrecy. (Klippenstein himself was banned from X and visited by the FBI for publishing the Vance dossier, which mainstream outlets refused to touch, because it was allegedly leaked by Iranian hackers.)
The Discord incident became an opportunity for American media to debate its newfound approach to leakers. When classified documents began appearing on Discord video game chats, investigative journalists quickly identified the leaker as Air National Guardsman Jack Teixeira, and reporters from The New York Times arrived at his house just before the FBI did.
Glenn Greenwald, one of the reporters who broke the original Snowden leaks, claimed that mainstream media "love leaks when the CIA and Homeland Security tell them to leak" but "will actually hunt down the leaker and demand that he be punished even more" when a leak undermines the government's story.
Barton Gellman, a reporter who had covered Snowden for The Washington Post, told Politico that journalists owed Teixeira "no special protection, and his identity and motives are important elements of the story." After all, Teixeira was "not a journalistic source and didn't make this bargain with anyone," Gellman pointed out; his leaks just mysteriously appeared online as the media scrambled to make sense of them.
Still, journalists often hold back on publishing information that can harm people, even if it's technically fair game for reporting. Goldberg, for example, has repeatedly declined to report on the identity of a CIA officer in the White House group chat. If it's unethical to expose a spy to the risk of prison or worse, then why wouldn't the same considerations apply to condemning a National Guardsman with poor impulse control to the same kind of consequences?
On the flip side, the benefits of reporting on secret military operations sometimes outweigh the risks. In addition to revealing general problems with U.S. military policy in Vietnam, the Pentagon Papers unmasked specific military operations that the U.S. government had tried to keep secret, including air raids on Cambodia against Congress' wishes. The Nixon administration used the same appeals to troops' safety that The Atlantic did in arguing for courts to censor the Pentagon Papers.
The Atlantic's decision to publish the full group chat transcript, however reluctantly, may prove to be a gift for public accountability. Yemeni authorities have accused the U.S. of killing women and children, while the U.S. military insists that it saw "no indications of any civilian casualties." But Waltz admitted in the group chat that the U.S. military killed a Yemeni commander by collapsing "his girlfriend's building" with no warning. Conflicting reports of civilian casualties from airstrikes are nothing new, but journalists and researchers investigating such incidents in other wars have rarely had such a window into officials' internal decision-making process.
As Stelter argued, the White House group chat could have turned out quite differently in a different journalist's hands. Goldberg, an enthusiastic supporter of the undeclared war in Yemen and Middle Eastern wars in general, was far less willing to undermine the government's line than someone like Klippenstein or Greenwald would be. But to his credit, he at least published something. Many other journalists have revealed this week that they see responsible journalism as shutting up and trusting the authorities.
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So was it classified or not?
Goldberg relied on the Trump Administration's assurances that it wasn't.
Just like he relied on the Bush Administration's assurances that Hussein and bin Laden were co-planning future attacks on the US.
Jeffrey Goldberg - naive . . . or something else?
He’s a piece of crap.
He's a liar.
So this from yesterday turned out to be a complete lie. Not even close to being true. Just a lie.
That didn’t answer the question retard.
I think it answered it more than adequately. Goldberg's original intention was to keep things that looked top secret hidden. Then the administration decided to call him a liar and also state that whatever he had gotten was unclassified. This was monumentally stupid on their part. Goldberg showed his royal flush and the administration still called it, forcing him to put it on the table.
That still didn’t answer the question retard.
It's hard to tell if it was classified or not since Rump can magically declassify anything he wants with his brainwaves at anytime, including before he knew about it and including after he would have gotten in trouble for it, but he declassified it mentally, so that he isn't in trouble for it.
What do you feel was classified?
“Rump”
Honk honk!
Wow, your samefagging for all your socks today.
So you're telling us you have no idea how the classification process works. Got it.
What a logical,common sense response!
It's all you deserve.
You didn't answer the question either retard. You didn't even put a space in "logical,common" bot.
Put what on the table? All texts are now released. What is classified?
So simple to show yet you refuse to do it.
Even The Atlantic as stopped calling it war plans lol.
Under normal circumstances, stuff like when the missiles are launching or who and what is being targeted would be top secret. I don't think any serious person disputes this and if he had just gone right out and published the texts in full without all this happening Goldberg would be in jail on (fairly justifiable) espionage charges right now. But, since The Donald et al have very openly and repeatedly declared that it's not classified and all but dared him to publish it, that's why it's out there now.
So now involved persons get to explain why, if this isn't classified information, what is. If I were an F-18 pilot staged in the Persian Gulf I would certainly feel a moment of pause getting into my plane knowing that the Secretary of Defense himself might be sharing my flight plans with god knows who over an unsecured phone app.
Trump considers those who serve in the military to be losers and doesn't care about F-18 pilots.
Defends a false Goldberg story by repeating Goldbergs other false story lol.
It’s like propaganda inception!
Everything you wrote is literally false and assumptions based on your ignorance.
lol
Lol all you want, but he's right.
Stuff whose valuable intelligence life is only a matter of days might not be top secret, but it would definitely be classified, which is all that matters.
It was post attack. Goldberg lied.
Goldberg was added to the chat two days before the attack.
Cite?
Then it should be super simple to prove what parts were classified, which was Don’t get eliminated’s op.
The White House said no. That was despite what any reasonable person would have known immediately would have seen as Classified. It included sources, methods, ordnance, aircraft types, locations and times. As it was fucking happening!
Of COURSE it was classified!
Or it should have been. With Trump we know that classification means less than nothing. And according to all those who were trying desperately to find some way to pin the blame for the fiasco on the journalist who reported it, it was not.
With half the country believing whatever the fuck the administration tells them to think, Goldberg had no option but to lay his cards on the table. Not classified? Fine.
Note that he originally was the ONLY person in the chain who prevented the unapproved release of (what was most certainly) top secret classified information. This is just dumber than fuck and emblematic of how completely unserious this whole list of D-list TV personalities are. Drunkle Pete Hegseth? Fucking puh-lease. Tulsi Gabbard? What the fuck? America may have had its problems, but we are in a whole new era of fucked. We gave the keys to the car to a blind drunk who climbed in and locked the doors. And now we are seeing how fast he can make it go before careening off the side of a mountain. That'll fucking own the libs! JesusfuckingHchrist.
You’re such a fucking retard. Goldberg lied. The transcript didn’t say what he claimed.
Goldberg claimed that the information Hegseth disclosed in the Signal chat was so detailed that it included a list of “human targets to be killed in the attack”. It didn't.
If you read the actual transcript instead of ActBlue missives and the shit your wife’s son posts on BlueSky you would have realized that there’s nothing there that was a problem.
Damn. Even for you, that is completely delusional.
You made no point Pelson.
Goldberg ended up releasing all the texts, including what he claimed was classified. Which text concerns you?
Which one wouldn’t concern you, if all this could be FOIAed before any upcoming attack?
Remember, he was added two days before the attack happened.
You couldn't FOIA this anyway. It was on Signal, an app specifically designed to destroy records. You know, the kinds of records that the law mandates be retained specifically so that who knew what when can be determined after the fact.
I don't have a security clearance, but I have a job dealing with sensitive personal information. Just using an app like Signal to do my own job would get me fired on the spot, regardless of whether anything leaked. There mere opportunity to evade retention requirements would unambiguously be a fireable offense. There is positively no way every single one of these people wasn't made professionally aware of the requirements for secure communications,
doublytriply so for top secret communications directly related to a battlefield situation.All those people chanting "lock her up" in 2016 were 100% right. To see them all now roll their eyes and go "oh well, big whoop" now is appalling. This is what y'all look like.
I think it's funny, though, that the reason why Signal is used is because "the previous Administration approved it, and it became standard."
On the one hand, I can believe that the Trump 2.0 Administration could have taken it on good faith that Signal was properly vetted for use.
On the other hand? C'mon, we're talking about the Biden Pretendency here! Why should we believe they got anything right?!? (Although, to be fair to the current Administration, it takes time to sort through all the previous Administration's policies, and a huge dose of triage is certainly necessary!)
Or you know Goldberg, proven liar, published the texts. Guess what! It wasn't a war plan.
I know idiots like you can't process that because it's orange man bad.
No, we can't process it because it's absolutely retarded!
It included sources, methods, ordnance, aircraft types, locations and times. As it was fucking happening.
But the guy who published the information given to him by top administration officials who don't deny it is a liar. Do you see at all how that is a complete non-sequitur? Of course you don't, because Orange Man Only Do Good!
Cite?
It included sources, methods, ordnance, aircraft types, locations and times. As it was fucking happening.
No you fucking retard, you didn’t even read it. Those were given after the attack. Not before. You’re just copypasting claims from your Media Matters email.
Hegseth did talk about how they bombed the building with the top guy in it and it collapsed. So, unless Pete can time travel and then come back to report, the discussion about the bombing was post hoc.
He didn't publish anything until the event had occurred. Once the bombs have been dropped, the plans to make the strike happen stop being as necessary to keep under wraps.
Also, note that he still hasn't made everything public. The names and some of the other specifics he is still guarding far more closely than DOD, DNI, etc. He is precisely the kind of honorable journalist that can keep us safer than the inept cabinet. We should be nothing but grateful to him.
The Signal conversation was after they bombed the building. Read the transcript.
Goldberg is by no means an "honorable journalist". He has proven that over the years by the lies he has told, over and over again -- all with the intent of hurting President Trump.
Schrödinger's chat?
Maxwell’s mailer-daemon
The fact that (some) people are only concerned that it happened and not the content of what was in the messages tells me everything I need to know about this. Just one more thing to not give a fuck about.
And the fact that The Media and the Loyal Opposition Party don't seem to care how the leak happened.
That's because there isn't any there, there. There's no classified info so they have to say they are protecting people by not releasing it or they get caught in their lie.
It actually was classified, it just wasn't the most damning sort of classified intel. The types of aircraft, ordinance, and where they were launching from falls under "Top Secret" info, but it lacked names, specifics about targets, methods of data gathering, etc. This is the sort of scenario in which someone really should own it and then follow up, "But fortunately, the attack was successful and there was no harm, and we're reviewing all procedures going forward."
Only test firing shots are ever TS due to hiding capabilities. At best this would have been HAVSECO.
Every weapon used during the Iran drone swarm is known. It is public. As an example.
How do you know it's classified? Theoretically Flight Schedules were classified. I used to write grocery lists on the back of them because they were OBE (Overcome By Events).
It wouldn't fall under Top Secret - most likely Secret.
A reporter has no professional obligation to responsibly handle information?
I mean, that might technically be true but it sure as hell is an ugly position to embrace and says a lot about your ethics.
I disagree.
The government is *always* going to say that any release is a threat to national security and is 'putting lives at risk'. Any parsing a reporter does is still going to leave them open to that accusation. The government lost control of the information, that's it - its now public and the chips fall where they may.
Remember also that a lot of this stuff is directed *at you* or at targets that you would rather we just stopped fucking with. By helping maintain that secrecy you help maintain the stuff Snowden blew the whistle on.
This is the first time in my memory that the government has said that releasing something like this is NOT a threat to national security!
Was there a point here? Hillary said the same about what was in her emails but the way.
Everyone knew there would be an attack on the Houthis. It’s not like it was the battle plan for Normandy.
If it had been the battle plan for Normandy, Goldberg *still* would have been part of the chat. As far as anyone knows, this is as serious and as secret as anything the administration has done to date.
Define “battle plans”.
The professional obligation is/should be to minimize the risk to both themselves and others while still relaying the facts of the matter. The weighing of risks and taking of them is what makes them something other than a gossip.
Reporters have never been what you seem to think they are. They are gossip. That is what makes them valuable.
You didn’t complain when journalists protected Democrat secrets you hypocrite. That invalidates your criticism and makes whatever the Trump administration does ok.
You
didn’t complaindefended when journalists protected Democrat secrets you hypocrite.Fixed your bullshit.
Poor sarcbot.
We should take Sarcbot to be recycled .
And Sarc once again posts logical fallacies. It’s like he can’t help himself at this point.
At this point we can just get a bot to post for you. It'd indistinguishable from your posting quality now.
When you guys stop appealing to hypocrisy I'll stop pointing it out.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Project much, Sarc?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
It's kind of funny that half the time he criticizes others for basing their criticism on team rather than consistent principles as if it's the worst thing anyone could do. The other half the time he mocks expecting consistent principles as "appealing to hypocrisy".
Revealingly though there is one variable which with 100% accuracy predicts which side he'll land on for any particular set of circumstances. It's uncanny.
No one posts more appeal to hypocrisy message than you do.
You understand that your passive-aggressive cunty posts, minus their passive aggressive cuntliness, are actually making the opposite point you think you’re making.
Do you guys remember that time that a chubby Army lieutenant colonel with a dead-end career listened in on a confidential call between the President of the United States and the President of Ukraine, and then that rabidly partisan chow-thief LTC violated all of the confidentiality terms of his security clearance and ran to unauthorized Congressional staffers to blab the contents of that confidential, high-level conversation?
Remember how literally every Democrat alive including Sarcasmic thought that was just peachy-keen fine?
I remember. Good times....
Greenwald is correct. The MSM has always been a mouthpiece for the intelligence state. Petti lives in an endless psyop but he hasn't noticed. Nothing about this story passes the smell test.
Having actual office space at places like Twitter and Facebook wasn’t working out for them anymore, so .gov has to rely on apps like Signal.
Come on, there’s bound to be a few hiccups, guys.
Looks like the journalist released info about the incident without also releasing details that could lead to vulnerabilities.
When the time comes, Trump shouldn't pardon Goldberg for his TREASON, but he probably will. But for now Goldberg should be forced to live in [shudders] Russia.
It has created the bizarre situation of journalists asking the White House to keep them away from juicy, fresh, newsworthy information.
Petti lives in an alternate universe. The administration screwed up and Goldberg used that fact to advance his partisan interests as best he could, which in this case was criticizing them for giving him the information. Characterizing this as some sort of noble sacrifice on Goldberg's part is just stupid.
Petti’s a fucking hack.
A reporter cannot criticize the administration for being reckless with potentially classified and sensitive information and saying that they should be receiving it. It would seem that argument is too contradictory for even an Atlantic reporter to make. Petti on the other hand...
Nobody is going to be on the presses side for releasing military operation details if the plan goes pear shaped and gets grunts killed? Also, who would trust journalists to make such decisions? Reporters, as a group, are not the brightest of the professions.
Amazingly, this is NOT off topic:
REP JORDAN: "Is NPR biased?"
NPR CEO: "I have never seen any political bias."
JORDAN: "In the DC area, editorial positions at NPR have 87 registered Democrats and 0 Republicans."
NPR CEO: "We do not track the voter registration, but I find that concerning."
JORDAN: "87-0 and you're not biased?"
NPR CEO: "I think that is concerning if those numbers are accurate."
JORDAN: "October 2020, the NYPost had the Hunter Biden laptop story, and one of those 87 Democrat editors said, 'We don't want to waste our readers and listeners' time on stories that are just pure distractions.' Was that story a pure distraction?"
https://x.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1904947259198075212
And why is this NOT off topic? Because the CEO of NPR is Katherine Maher.
“From 2022 to 2023, Maher was a member of the US State Department's Foreign Affairs Policy Board, an expert panel established in 2011 by then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton to advise US officials.[27][28] As of 2023, she chairs the board of directors of the Signal Foundation”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Maher
She is being questioned by congress about bias at NPR two days after the Signal leak. While she is the chair of the board of…the Signal Foundation. She’s got quite the bio.
She lied in testimony by claiming she is for free speech when she has multiple public videos of her advocating the opposite.
Could this signal the end for her?
No. Even if she has to quit, some other left wing scumbag democrat organization will hire her. Unless she’s prosecuted for perjury.
You missed the Chumbyism.
Unless she runs the yellow.
Yeah, the X search for her name is pulling up a lot of damning information about her. I knew NPR was biased but holy shit.
But I’ll wait for Reason’s article on this hearing (haha!) before sharing it all. Or maybe I’ll do it here later.
Reason skipped even the level 1 iceberg regarding Signal, which is why there was a post about it in the morning Roundup comments. Maybe science guy Ron will post a comprehensive article reviewing it.
""From 2022 to 2023, Maher was a member of the US State Department’s Foreign Affairs Policy Board,""
Why am I not surprised at that?
Her wiki links to her mother’s wiki (which I’ll share next), but her father has no wiki. So…I did a search and found his obituary:
“Gordon, known as Rob, or less frequently but more cherished to him, Gordo, Maher was born in Norwalk, CT, growing up in Wilton, CT for a time with his elder brother Jim, elder sister Pamela and younger sister Marcia. The family then decamped to St. Germain du Pres, France as a result of their father’s work at IBM where family lore contends he may or may not have been a postwar spy.”
“ Rob was an operations man in his work at Astra, Goldman Sachs, UBS, and Castleton Commodities over the years, with a deep appreciation for tankers (ships, not boats) and a remarkable familiarity with the depth of the port of Aden.”
Because who’s not interested in the depths of the ocean south of Saudi Arabia?
https://goodmorningwilton.com/obituary-gordon-roberts-maher/
Her mom:
Catherine Cecilia Maher (née Queeney; born November 19, 1953)[1] is an American executive and politician. She currently serves as a member of the Connecticut State Senate, representing District 26, which encompasses Darien, New Canaan, Redding, Ridgefield, Stamford, Weston, Westport and Wilton. She is a member of the Democratic Party.
…She later became an executive at various non-profit organizations in Connecticut, such as Sandy Hook Promise”
Sandy Hook Promise is backed by comprehensive research by the Department of Homeland Security / Secret Service studies on mass shootings and targeted school violence.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandy_Hook_Promise
In 2019, Maher unsuccessfully ran for the board of selectmen of Wilton, Connecticut.[6] In 2022, she was endorsed by the Democratic Party for the Connecticut State Senate.[8] She was elected in the primary election on November 8, 2022, succeeding incumbent Will Haskell.[9] She assumed office on January 4, 2023, and currently serves as chair of the Children's commission and vice chair of the Higher Education & Employment Advancement commission. She is also a member of Energy & Technology, Human Services, Internship and Judiciary commissions
So she lost her city’s board election, then 3 years later wins state senate.
So she lost her city’s board election, then 3 years later wins state senate.
Sounds oddly similar to Tammy Duckworth(less)’s trajectory. She loses a House race, is appointed a veterans liaison (at which she performs poorly), and then miraculously becomes a US Senator.
Yikes, it's evil cunts all the way down.
“But but but Trump give war planz to jurnalist!!!”
1. Most press “The Atlantic” has had in decades (outside from Reason, of course.
2. Now the spotlight is on what Signal is all about. Team Blue own goals themselves Every. Single. Time.
“A member of the Council on Foreign Relations, Maher worked for UNICEF, the National Democratic Institute, the World Bank and Access Now before joining the Wikimedia Foundation. She subsequently joined the Atlantic Council and the US Department of State's Foreign Affairs Policy Board.”
“After high school, Maher graduated from the Arabic Language Institute's Arabic Language Intensive Program of The American University in Cairo in 2003, which she recalled as a formative experience that developed her interest in the Middle East.[10] Maher also studied at the Institut français d'études arabes de Damas in Syria and spent time in Lebanon and Tunisia”
All very normal.
The decision to release sensitive information remains in the hands of the journalist where it should be. Just because information is classified as secret doesn’t always mean that releasing it to the public will harm American military personnel. It could be marked secret because it would be embarrassing to one or more officials or their cronies and SHOULD be released to the public in order to embarrass them. Even releasing that information after the military action is over could not do any harm retroactively. This whole thing is a tempest in a teapot as the Trump and Biden Home Secret Document troves aptly demonstrated.
To say reporters should always release any information they obtain, however they obtain it, appears, on the surface, morally repugnant. Of course it should be situational. Believe it or not, sometimes our government does things that are right and should be secretive. I get that libertarians like openess and a transparent government, but this argument is absurd.
Goldberg played this well. Of course he was going to release the information eventually. Now that we see it we know that it was good to release it. He was right not to release it in real time too, unless you are very very opposed to bombing Houthis. If you are opposed just say it. If the plans were to bomb Columbia univerity things might be different. As for the intelligence officer he is not outing, I don't see why we need to know who they are. If Goldberg knows and this person is Putin then yeah, he should release it. But if they are just a normal officier what do we gain by knowing it?
The benefit of him witholding info was that it made the administration look foolish and we got to see how things really work. He got many of them on record denying things they shouldn't have and then he played his cards. Well played.
It won't come to squat though. As we are seeing, the vast number of Republicans are sweeping this under the rug and championing hypocrisy. I don't doubt Goldberg and the Atlantic will be punished for this and the Republicans won't care. Reason will print their usual articles about free speech and then go back to semi-supporting Trump ad crapping on Democrats.
You do realize that the posted text messages by Goldberg is less than nothing. No war plans. Nothing that could be used. Even Goldberg and the Atlantic are changing their story, Nothing classified. Nothing sensitive.
The only thing here was an embarrassment. Only thing it shows is the democrats whining and trying but end up looking the fool. No-one takes them seriously based on their past but you
Fun fact: Goldberg lied about the contents before he released it.
How in the world could a journalist "committed to the truth" do that?!? Heck, how can a journalist do that, knowing that he's not the only one who could release the transcript -- and that Trump in particular has been known to release transcripts, to prove detractors wrong?
It's not a journalists job to give aid and comfort to his own country's enemies.
There is an area where the media has discretion to publish or to withhold. Jeffrey Goldberg has used his discretion in a wise manner. We should not that none of the information was stolen or obtained inn an illicit manner. The government invited Goldberg to the chat and he had no way to know what would or would not be said. He did not sneak into a file room at the CIA and photocopy secret documents.
Since Signal is NOT to be used by government officials for sensitive government business, Goldberg had no basis to think that secret information would be disclosed. If a Senator should text me as a journalist some classified information without my even making a request for it,. how would I be responsible for the breach of duty the government officials?
Goldberg's real contribution is how the officials like Pig Hegseth behaved afterwards. Both his statements while in Hawaii showed a man who is intellectually deficient to hold any responsible condition in any organization. Others on the chat have likewise behaved quite poorly. Since they were using signal and they all had Signal, that is evidence supporting the conclusion that they often use Signal in an illegal manner.
You mean Hegseth meeting the INDOCOM . Wow what a pig. Your statement shows you want an intellectual you are. You should go debate Hegseth
"Since Signal is NOT to be used by government officials for sensitive government business"
Why do you guys keep repeating this lie?
The Biden administration approved Signal for exactly this use. They encouraged it as a best practice.
It was preinstalled on all their phones and they were all automatically signed up for it.
Their bosses must really want Hegseth out. Sent out all the fifty centers for this one.
One thing I learned regarding Biden's mental health is team blue is willing to propagate any lie no matter how obvious the lie is.
That's because it's an R. They protect and run interference for Biden and Ds when possible.
Petti is right, it's not the 'journalists' job to protect government secrets. Someone with integrity though would have spoken up on the chat or left. Do you understand the work integrity?
I await the retraction here like the Atlantic has done on this
Also this^
I'm pretty sure this fall under never stop your enemy in the middle of a mistake.
how many Atlantic subscriptions went up in smoke with all the UNSAID cuts?
'It's Not Journalists' Job To Protect Government Secrets'
Sure, buddy. If you had been in England in 1944 and somehow found a bag with all the key info on the Normandy landings just hours before it started, it is totally within your right to publish everything and blame it on Eisenhower's clumsy command group.
Of course, if they caught you in time, you would have been shot. And I would have enjoyed that.
This^
But what if they invited you to receive the bag?
Mean Signal messages are not classified, Retards.
I don't think it's journalists jobs to protect government secrets --- I also don't think reporting everything serves a public interest, and it's inherently part of the job of journalism as a profession to serve a public interest. You report things because it's important for the public to know.
In this instance, one could argue that Goldberg informing the WH of their mistake would have served exactly the same public interest (beefing up security safeguards) but wouldn't have given him the clicks and ratings. In other words, the only purpose of running the story was for his cash flow (or partisanship).
Ken Klippenstein is paraphrased here as whining, "they're also acting against their own self-interest," as if trying to get clicks and ratings should be the primary interest of a journalist. But somehow this is spun into a noble defense of the profession.
Journalists publish, that's their job, not to catch the government's mistakes and keep their readers in the dark. And that's the way it should be. In this case, the Trump admin's incompetence is very much newsworthy, just like the previous administration's incompetence was.
"In other words, the only purpose of running the story was for his cash flow..." oh great, another MAGA socialist angry over other people getting paid for their work.
Nah it's a comment that just because a story gets ratings doesn't mean it's good journalism. As I think most people realize when they turn on cable news channels whether on the right like Fox News or on the left like CNN -- most people realize the state of journalism today is pretty trashy. Goldberg himself has a history of trashy journalism quoting anonymous sources on nothing more than juicy gossip.
But that you think pointing this out makes me either MAGA or a socialist, and couldnt refrain from a personal attack, says a lot about you choosing to wallow in the gutter too.
The story will ultimately go away in a week. Nothing important will come of it. Democrats will continue to trash Republicans and Republicans will continue to trash Democrats.
In this case, the Trump admin’s incompetence is very much newsworthy
This DNC incompetence talking-points you're trying to peddle are built on quite a few lies.
Lie #1. "Signal wasn't approved for that sort of use."
The Biden administration approved Signal for exactly this use. They encouraged it as a best practice. It was preinstalled on all the phones and they were all automatically signed up for it.
Lie #2. "Goldberg says the information Hegseth disclosed in the Signal chat was so detailed that it included a list of 'human targets to be killed in the attack'”.
But the released transcript showed that Goldberg had lied. It mentioned one man. Not a list. One.
And the attack had already occurred at the time of the signal chat.
Lie #3. "It included classified sources, methods, ordnance, aircraft types, locations and times. As it was fucking happening!"
There was one guy targeted, and he had already been hit at the time of the signal chat. Methods, ordnance and aircraft types should be expected and a secret to nobody unless some sort of hidden spy plane was used.
Lie #4. "It was Trump's fault Goldberg was there!!!"
Trump wasn't a part of the conversation. Signal was approved and designated a best practice by the Biden administration. Neither Hegseth or Waltz invited Goldberg. A CIA staffer working for Waltz did.
Also to clarify I wouldn't think this story would have served any public interest no matter if it happened during the Biden administration.
Ethics in Journalism? How quaint.
Again, a poor logic showing here. There are breaches of government secrets AND it is no defense that if you do it you claim you were just about to open a Substack account.
Author is right if he says it oppositely: You can be prosecuted for violation of government secrets even if you claim it was for journalistic purposes.
And even if you came into possession of that information through no fault of your own.
""You can be prosecuted for violation of government secrets even if you claim it was for journalistic purposes.""
Not the reporter, see New York Times Co. v. United States
The reality it is up to the government officials to do everything they can to keep the information out of journalistic view. In this, the Trump admin failed.
Different situation. Goldberg wasn't given the information by a confidential source. It was dropped in his lap by an unknown third party. He's in the same situation as someone who found a satchel of classified documents on the sidewalk.
What’s funny to me is that Trump’s entire brand is firing people, he fired nearly his entire inner circle in his first administration, but now with blatantly illegal exercises in incompetence, we have circling wagons. Clearly he’s running out of drunk spokesmodels to put in high positions of power and responsibility.
Who did Biden fire for leaking Israeli satellite info and running the country as a senile man?
What’s truly funny is all the democrats being indicted over fraud and connection to foreign interest. Menendez got paid in gold bars, now that’s styling.
Sorry that the loss of motorcylce mama Pence broke your heart, but Vance is to Pence as a normal human being is to Biden or Harris.
One is a Marine ! and one is --- Pence
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Regime media has lied and covered for the deep state and the democratic regime for decades.
Every citizen who has had a security clearance knows that secrets are a burden. It is a long term commitment to keep them from accidental disclosure. The same applies to any secrets accidently learned. It is a duty of citizenship. There are awful examples of news people violating this duty and getting good people killed.