Trump's Trade War With America's Neighbors Is All Cost and No Benefit
What did we learn from yet another escalation in the North American trade war? Not to do it again.

Amid this week's escalation of a North American trade war, the stock market has been sending a clear signal: Stop doing this.
Stocks rise and fall for a wide variety of reasons, of course, but this week's downward spiral was largely driven by one man: President Donald Trump. Trump's announcement on Monday of new 25 percent tariffs on all imports from Canada and Mexico caused the markets to drop instantaneously. The drop continued on Tuesday as Trump vowed in an address to Congress that he'd impose even more tariffs, and over the past two days even as the White House retreated. By the end of the day on Thursday, Trump had postponed tariffs on all goods from Canada and Mexico that comply with the trade deal he negotiated during his first term.
"That move effectively walked back much of the original plan. But the market still sold-off, with uncertainty mounting over the long-term policy," CNBC reported, noting that the S&P 500 was down 3.6 percent for the week, the Dow Jones Industrial Average was down nearly 3 percent, and the Nasdaq composite was down 4.1 percent heading into Friday morning.
The stock market's performance is often used as a shorthand for the relative strength of the economy. That's not quite correct. A more accurate way to think about the stock market is as a reflection of what investors believe the economy will look like in the future—because, at the most basic level, buying or selling a stock is a bet on the future performance of that asset.
This week's selloff, then, is more than just a reaction to the tempestuous trade policy coming from the White House. It is also a signal that many investors believe the instability (at best) and significantly higher taxes (at worst) will continue to drag the economy for the foreseeable future.
It's hard to fault them for thinking so. Trump has been obsessed with imposing tariffs for years. He campaigned on a promise to hike tariffs on nearly all imports. Since taking office six weeks ago, he's threatened, imposed, postponed, and withdrawn tariffs on nearly a weekly basis, only to turn around and start the cycle all over again. It's irrational and economically illiterate, but there's no indication that it's going to stop anytime soon—and so businesses and investors are responding accordingly.
That's why Trump's tariffs on Canada and Mexico are creating serious costs even without being fully implemented. The stock market is perhaps the most visible of those costs—and those losses don't just hurt Wall Street, of course, but also harm any American with a retirement account. Other losses are already piling up, as American businesses lose access to Canadian markets and cross-border supply chains for everything from automobiles to zinc get disrupted.
The stock market might have fallen, but "at least we can cushion the blow with higher prices, deepening job cuts, falling business investment, and export industry devastation," is how Jessica Riedl, a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, summed it up in a post on X.
All that for what? Trump and his allies believe tariffs are the key to all sorts of wondrous economic outcomes that will make America more prosperous. In his speech to Congress on Tuesday night, Trump said that tariffs "are about protecting the soul of our country," whatever that means.
But even if you buy those arguments, it should be obvious that tariffs being implemented and then immediately withdrawn (for the second month in a row) will not produce the promised benefits. They won't generate revenue for the government, won't cause businesses to alter their supply chains, and won't stop the flow of illegal drugs. It's the equivalent of looking at a river, declaring your intention to build a dam, and then expecting the river to become a reservoir.
The simplest lesson to be learned from all this is that, as National Review's Dominic Pino points out, tariffs are not the magic wand that Trump believes them to be. If you are inclined to be generous to Trump, you might also conclude that even he is now realizing that fact—hence the quick undoing of the tariffs imposed earlier this week.
The White House pivoted to damage control mode on Thursday, dispatching Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent to reassure investors that costs imposed by tariffs would be "transitory"—an unfortunate choice of words that harkens back to the Biden administration's failed attempts to explain away inflation. The Trump administration also published a "fact sheet" outlining everything the "dealmaker-in-chief" was aiming to accomplish.
The markets don't seem convinced. Indeed, if the stock market was merely a snapshot of the current state of the economy, delaying those tariffs and offering some vague reassurances might cause it to bounce back quickly. Unfortunately, that's not true, and the uncertainty looming over American trade policy will continue to sap economic growth in all kinds of seen and unseen ways. That will be the case until at least April 2, which is the next deadline Trump has created for imposing tariffs once again on goods from Mexico, Canada, and other parts of the world.
That gives Trump a few weeks to learn the lesson he's stubbornly refused for years: Tariffs are tax increases that disrupt supply chains, cost jobs, and have many more losers than winners. If he doesn't, we'll likely have to ride this same roller coaster again next month.
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Oh. So the other countries never responded at all. Thanks Eric. No change happened. None at all.
So much fucking denial occurring.
Oh there's been a change allright. My personal wealth has dropped by a couple hundred thousand dollars. Go fuck yourself, and take Sevo and fuck him too.
Lol. Act blue lies are my favorite lies.
Your claim sounds like Bolshevist bulkshit to me.
Fuck off pinko.
Bullshit.
Just because you haven't lost anything in the stock market doesn't mean that those who do invest haven't lost money. It's not Fake News or liberal pearl-clutching or whatever you need to tell yourself. The stock market got hit because of Trump's boneheadedness. The numbers are there to see. Not liking a fact does not make the fact go away. Why can't magats learn that one simple fucking lesson.
Lol. Another fucking retard who has zero money in stocks.
You'd be surprised.
Then surprise us. How much are you invested in stocks?
Less and less every day.
Why can’t you democrats learn to obey?
Hey Alberto Balsalm... STOP getting burned by that balsamic vinegar, and by Trump, and by the abysmally economicaly ignorant the Trumpanzees!!! Punch "S&P 500" into Google and look at the graph, on a 1-month span. American under STUPID and EVIL Trump! Now punch "ETF VGK" (for Europe) and look at the graph, on a 1-month span.
Conclusion, ass I have concluded: Give up on terminally ill USA under the Trump infection. Move your money to Europe! The voters and the politicians seem to be a LOT smarter there!
"... this is CNN."
"What do we want?"
"Taxes!"
"When do we want them?"
"Now!"
Zero surprises Sarckles want higher taxes.
Been happening for years. He denies it in the same threads he advocates for higher taxes.
Zero surprises that Moose-Mammary-Necrophiliac can't detect sarcasm, and LOVES to FORCE the people (who actually earn money, ass well ass welfare mooches) to pay MORE-MORE-MORE in tariffs and moose-udder TAXES!!!
Now ass a USA taxpayer, I will pay higher tariff-taxes, AND send more USAID money to Moose-Mammary-Necrophiliac!
Give it up sarc.
As long as taxes fund the things society demands, like fire/ rescue, highways, etc. I am fine paying for them (so long as they run as efficiently as can be done). What I hate are those who sponge off society, taking advantage of those percs without paying for them. I hate taxes as much as any normal person, but I also realize that there are certain services that benefit everyone and cost money. Society functions smoothly when there everyone has the same opportunities. This administration seems hell bent on making only those with the least political power pay for them. That's a recipe for unrest.
While I certainly think tariffs and trade wars are idiotic and I oppose them without qualification, the stock market indices are NOT the reliable indicator Boehm seems to think they are. No doubt business will be hurt in the short term and it is highly unlikely that protectionism will actually rebuild American industry either in the short or the long term. It plays well as a campaign slogan and to pay lip service to organized labor, but Trump apparently learned nothing from the role inflation and high prices played in the voters kicking out Biden and re-electing Trump. Unfortunately, Trump now has four years to learn from his mistakes to the misfortune of the American people.
That gives Trump a few weeks to learn the lesson he's stubbornly refused for years: Tariffs are tax increases that disrupt supply chains, cost jobs, and have many more losers than winners.
Interesting how Trump defenders have now gone full lefttard in that they honestly believe good intentions yield good results, and if those good intentions do not have good results then someone else is to blame.
You wouldn’t recognize a good intention if it bit your dick.
Interesting how the gullible TDS's will agree with anything that confirms their biases.
This is written by Boehm FFS.
Tariffs are shitty economics. That's a fact. Perhaps there are some political arguments in favor of them, but they're still shitty economics. Nothing can change that. Political party doesn't change that. The person making the argument doesn't change that. They're shitty economics. Period.
Doesn't matter if the tariffs are well intentioned. They're shitty economics.
One thing is certain - when the tariffs have negative results (and they will because all tariffs have negative results), you Trump defenders will find someone or something else to blame. Just like leftists when they defend their well-intentioned policies that have negative results. I'm as certain of that as I am certain that the sun will set this evening.
Conservatives used to be results-orientated, not intentions-orientated. What happened? Oh yeah. Trump happened.
It bizzarro world when people here are advocating MJ Keynes approach to foreign trade and calling themselves libertarians.
Not as bizarre as libertarians being in favor of price controls imposed by fiat of a fat orange drag queen.
Don’t confuse Trump defenders with libertarians.
You're fine with confusing libertarians as Trump defenders so leave Tony alone.
Don’t confuse yourself with non retards.
Weird. It is always your people, ie democrats, advocating keynes.
True. It is usually democrats. Now, it's you stupid fuckers. At least you admit it.
You’re too stupid to understand any of this. Kill yourself.
Tariffs are a tool that can be wielded properly to balance unfair practices by others. That portion of Trump's tariffs - they will be the same as the other country imposes on American goods - are good economics and good politics. Other tariffs can be used for negotiation purposes, but beyond that they inhibit trade and hurt your own citizens. Trump has had a few successes with Mexico and Canada saying they would help on the border and Venezuala taking in illegals. If those countries are not following through then Trump is justified in imposing the threatened tariffs. I haven't seen a discussion of that.
And even if the tariffs are reversed, his other nonsense comments about "51st state" will have a long lasting impact. Canadians previously loved to vacation in the U.S. In 2023, Canadians represented 31% of the tourists travelling to the U.S. Now, travel by Canadians to the U.S. is down by 40% and will likely drop further. And that won't change quickly.
Oh no, Canada hates us, again. Whatever will we do?
We don't. Trudeau has beggared us, and our dollar looks like monopoly money when compared to yours.
Seriously, this was this morning: 1 Canadian Dollar equals
0.69 United States Dollar
We can't afford to go to the States and we get another whopping increase in the Carbon Tax in a few weeks, going up from $15 per Canadian per tonne to $80 per tonne of carbon dioxide (CO2) on April 1, 2024. That's for every tonne the country emits.
Literally insane. Makes Trump's tariffs look like an ice cream. Couple that with the fact that Justin's been bringing in a million plus people a year, while shutting down energy production and power plants, and you guys are going to have a refugee situation on the border by December.
Oddly enough the drop over the last 2 years almost matches the tariff amount.
“Now, travel by Canadians to the U.S. is down by 40% and will likely drop further.”
Cite?
Probably CBC, but they make up their polls without actually doing them. No, really.
I take it that they publish whatever Trudeau and his toadies say.
Isn't is awesome to be able to simply discount whatever contradicts your perspective as Fake News? It's *so* much easier than dealing with reality!
MAGA!
Your kind does this with everything that isn’t part of the DNC narrative. You’re filth. You can see that, right?
I'll bet they won't stop shopping in the border cities. The parking lots of Idaho Walmarts and Costcos are 10-20% BC plates every weekend.
That gives Trump a few weeks to learn the lesson he's stubbornly refused for years
Trump doesn't learn.
It’s you faggots who haven’t learned anything.
Don’t really care if they do anymore. We just need to get rid of Shirke and his friends. So if they give us any more crap, it’s time for McCarthyism 2.0?
Trump does not have the capacity to learn from mistakes. He can't ever admit he has made one, so he can't be expected to learn anything from them. Everything is a win. A tanked stock market? "I wanted to give it room to grow" what a fucking retard.
No benefit? What? Trump's yo-yo tariffs make liberals and RINOs unhappy, and that a huge benefit.
Also Trump something something negotiation strategy something something five-dimension chess something something something.
Ha!
We have to consider that multi-dimensional chess of this sort can only be properly understood and employed by a very special genius, and we need to defer to that chess player because anyone else can't possibly understand all of those dimensions.
A chimp could beat Trump at checkers.
Donnie is more of a rock/paper/scissors guy.
Lol. You trash really do sound like badly programmed chat bots wanking each other off.
More like Rock, Rock and Rock.
Or crumpled up paper masquerading as rock anyway.
Amazing watching people calling a person who has beaten them twice and lives in their heads rent-free an idiot.
Then why didn't the dems run someone who could beat him at the polls?
Misogyny, that's why. Racism, that's why (But ignore the fact that they tried to put up a senile white man, until 4 months before the election)
Statistically, fully half the population has an IQ at or below 100. How is reality supposed to compete with "They're eating the dogs and cats"?
Do I need to remind you of who the Dems ran?
Almost everyone is a genius compared to you.
False. Everyone.
"No benefit? What? Trump's yo-yo tariffs make liberals and RINOs unhappy, and that a huge benefit."
Winner-winner-chicken dinner! Pretty witty! (Ass well ass being obliviously true.)
Trump IS a yo-yo, and I hope His PervFected Yo-Yo gets tariff-taxed out the yo-yo! For starters, Congress could grown some gonads and a spine, and take BACK the taxing-tariffs powers granted to it by the Constitution!
Not admitting mistakes is the clearest example of someone unable to learn from them. Bequeathing the title of "faggot" on to anyone who has the audacity to point out an obvious fact says all there is to say.
Trump will always retreat on tariffs (of this level) in the North American region because the effects of letting them stand would be drastic and nearly immediate and those effects would be too much to bear politically for him and his party.
So, all of Trump's on-again/off-again North American tariff theater has shown to Canada and Mexico is that they can call Trump's bluff every time.
Ah, so that's why Mexico capitulated.
Here's a news flash for you though. Our demented Prime Minister wants the tariffs far more than Trump does.
His party was sitting in the polling toilet and looking like it was going to lose official party status and be wiped off the electoral map. In addition Trudeau had promised a 433.33% rise in the Carbon Tax on April 1 which was probably going to lead to revolution.
But now he can hide that all behind the tariffs and pretend he's "fighting for Canadians" even while he has his dick still stuck in our asses.
It won't let him win the next election, but it will probably let his party retain official party status.
Ya, the conservative party aligning with Trump fascism just might hurt them in the polls. They don't want Canada to go down the same path.
Goddamn you’re dumb.
Yes, I am dumb because I like freedom.
Cite?
Why haven’t you Canadians overthrown your government yet? Trudeau and his fellow travelers should be burnt at the stake on the steps of Parliament.
Since taking office six weeks ago, he's threatened, imposed, postponed, and withdrawn tariffs on nearly a weekly basis, only to turn around and start the cycle all over again. It's irrational and economically illiterate, but there's no indication that it's going to stop anytime soon
It's time to talk about taking the keys away from grandpa.
If you don’t like sitting in the back of the bus, feel free to get the fuck out.
I'm just being polite to leave the front seats for you people that are used to short buses.
You mean the 25th amendment?
No, I'm just joking around about Trump's incompetence.
Trudeau laughingly said Canada would never even want to hit it's expected 2% of GDP to NATO, and would not do so.
Until they meet that, Canada can swing on deez nutz.
I wonder if Eric will do a time line showing how the imposition of tariffs in Trump's first administration immediately destroyed the economy?
You know, starting with the first tariff, and clearly showing (with cites to other than CNN, NYT, etc.) how the stock market tanked, interest rates went through the roof, and inflation took off.
I wonder - - - - - -
I wonder if you Trump defenders will ever stop dishonestly equating tariffs targeted to specific industries with tariffs on all goods from targeted countries.
Facts suck for you leftists, don’t they?
There you go, confusing your own homemade "alternative facts" (which by definition are the alternative to facts) with reality again.
Eric Boehm, you are an idiot. Trump is an economic ignoramus who thinks trade deficits and foreign investments have opposite signs, who thinks tariffs are not taxes but are paid by foreigners and don't raise prices. Moronic doesn't come close to his economic intelligence.
But trade wars are not an economic matter. They are war, first and foremost, and the fact that they punish yourself ("if you don't stop cutting yourself I will start cutting myself until you stop") is entirely beside the point. They have the benefits of virtue signalling, of blustering and self-promoting, and increasing the power of the State, just as all wars do.
To claim wars have no benefits is to open your mouth and prove to the world you are just as ignorant as Trump.
I don’t think your attack on the author will make up for your economic literacy. Nice try though.
I actually feel bad seeing libertarians keep getting dick slapped in the face despite their long history of tiptoeing up to republicans with empty bowls asking please sir, may I have some economic liberty?
I think your ideas are mostly horseshit, but, like, someone should entertain them every now and then. They’re not entirely without merit. It’s just so sad.
I’ve told you before, keep your fantasies to yourself,
I don’t know how else to flirt with Sevo than from this forum.
I’m Pedo Jeffy would plow your ass for you.
>Trump's Trade War With America's Neighbors Is All Cost and No Benefit
What about the Canadian, Mexican, and European tariffs? Are those ok?
Also, what are you guys worried about? If America shits the bed you can just leave and take up residence and work in another . . . oh, wait, other countries have immigration controls. Ooops.
Oh no. It’s always ok for our trading partners to prevent our products from being sold in their countries. As it is our obligation to be the world’s doormat.
Trump's tariffs earn respect in the *exact* same way that a drunk stepfather earns respect of his teenage step son by punching the fuck out of the kid's mother. The kid might learn how to avoid the wrath of the mean drunk, but the second the drunk stepfather thinks the kid respects him, he is going to learn the difference the hard way. Don't think for a second that bullying those countries who genuinely trusted America, only to get ass-fisted by Trump's capricious bullshit won't fuck us over the second they get the chance. And they can feel completely justified in doing so.
On 9/12/2001 our allies rallied to our side, prepared to do whatever we asked of them. That kind of goodwill will never exist for us again. For whatever reason Trump has decided that alliances mean nothing and that trust is only there to be exploited. That (along with a litany of crimes yet to be discovered) will be Trump's only lasting legacy. He crumpled up and threw away what America fought for 250 years to build up.
Fuck him. In the mouth.
Our allies came to our side once. 23 years ago. Yup, keep them policies going.
Let's pretend all of our allies came to our defense in a war? What could they possibly do? Nothing beneficial.
The world hates the great Satan. They can learn to love the world's mercenary. Because that is all the world should be for us. Clients who can pay us. Nothing more.
A more accurate way to think about the stock market is as a reflection of what investors believe the economy will look like in the future
Kinda like climate change, right? The prognosticators of tomorrow must dictate what we do today.
Y'know, I check the weather every morning. 5-day forecast. When it's going to be sunny on Monday and Tuesday, overcast on Wednesday, and raining on Thursday - I don't get out the umbrella until Wednesday. And maybe not even then, unless it's looking to be some serious rain.
You seem to think we should all be hiding under umbrellas the whole week. That's stupid.
OK, the markets predict volatility. Whatever, they always bounce back eventually. Let's just see what happens. Who needs who more - especially if America can get its own production lines up and running again.
What part of "100 billion per MONTH" trade deficit do people not understand? It is not sustainable. The USA used to have a huge trade SURPLUS. We've pissed away our economic advantages and I don't even know why. Where's the upside?
Trump is actually doing something. Whether he succeeds, and however long it takes, don't blame him. He's doing his best to undo decades of fiscal mismanagement by the enemies of common sense, the ideologues.
The negative effect of Trump's tariffs on the stock market is one more good reason to ban the government from giving any of its retirees any defined benefit retirement plans.
Defined benefit retirement plans permit politicians from havng to consider some of the serious side-effects of their policies.
I believe no government employee should have access to a retirement plan not available to non-government retirees. If that restriction was in place and congress implemented (or allowed the implementation of) a policy that had a meaningful adverse affect on the stock market, they should feel the pinch just as private citizens do.
Many private companies have retirement plans (401k matching or pensions) that are not available to non-employees. Why should government employees be treated worse?
Because they're government employees.
Are they public servants; or are they moochers, looters, grifters, and cheats?
"Many private companies have retirement plans (401k matching or pensions) that are not available to non-employees."
Do any private retirement plans have their payouts guaranteed by the Federal government? If there were any question about how the money available to pay retirement benefits will be apportioned, is there any question that government employees will be at the top of the list of guaranteed recipients?
"Why should government employees be treated worse?"
I didn't even suggest government employees should be treated worse than non-government employees: I suggested they not be treated better.
Basically, no matter how badly politicians screw up the economy; their defined benefit pension plans, with their federal government guaranteed payouts, insure that government employees are insulated from bad government policies.
If government employees had to assume the same retirement risks as non-government employees, I believe there would be more thought given to the policies set by the Feds.
Federal government employees have access to the Thrift Savings Plan (TSP) with contributions matched up to an amount equal to 5% of the employee's base pay. So, in addition to their defined benefit pension plan, they can choose to contribute additional amounts either on a tax deferred basis (similar to a traditional IRA/401k) or to a Roth style plan.
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All Trump is trying to do is even it all out and the left and the former Libertarian magazine "Reason" are against a leader trying to make American richer instead of everyone else and don't want to wait before they start throwing rocks. Check out what other countries charge us. Not to mention all the money we spend in defense all of the world while they spend their money on their own citizens. We should tax other countries for providing protection, it costs money.
Reason is clearly with the democrats.
The tariff issue has some impact on the market but the greater issue is Trump's on again/off again methodology. Markets react very negatively to uncertainty.