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DOGE

Mass Firings Aren't Meritocracy

Plus: Epstein files, Taibbi interview, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 2.28.2025 9:42 AM

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Meritocracy or random firings? Over in DOGEland, things are going just about as you'd expect: more firings, this time at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, where some 800 probationary employees (out of 13,000 total employees) are being let go. The Social Security Administration plans to slash its workforce by half. An office within the Department of Labor tasked with enforcing equal employment opportunity laws is cutting staff by 90 percent, per internal documents. Meanwhile, Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) head honcho Elon Musk is tweeting about how it's not just cutting that his team aims to do, but also a healthy bit of promoting.

Hundreds of federal workers are being promoted daily every time we encounter excellence. The @DOGE team will be more clear about this.

The goal is to make the federal government a meritocracy as much as possible. https://t.co/ThmWMY28V2

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) February 27, 2025

But the way DOGE has handled these firings probably isn't the right means of getting to meritocracy, unfortunately. Some of this is because their hands are tied: It is very, very hard to fire long-time federal employees, whereas it is much easier to fire recently hired probationary employees. Part of the problem is that DOGE—or rather, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM), which has been tasked with carrying out a lot of the employee audits—appears to possibly not have the authority to be doing many of these firings.

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"A federal judge on Thursday ordered the Office of Personnel Management to rescind directives that initiated the mass firing of probationary workers across the government, ruling that the terminations were probably illegal, as a group of labor unions argued in court," reports The Washington Post. "Congress has given the authority to hire and fire to the agencies themselves. The Department of Defense, for example, has statutory authority to hire and fire," said U.S. District Judge William Alsup from the bench. "The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees."

Meanwhile, "the Justice Department argued that the president has 'inherent constitutional authority' to decide 'how best to manage the Executive Branch, including whom to hire and remove, what conditions to place on continued employment, and what processes to employ in making these determinations.'" Assistant U.S. attorney Kelsey Helland said that the unions objecting to the firings were "conflating a request from OPM with an order from OPM." It's all very legally thorny, figuring out who is allowed to do what.

But, though it may be beautiful to see useless parts of the federal bureaucracy absolutely destroyed, it bears repeating that mass firings are not meritocracy: If DOGE wants to fire probationary employees because they have fewer worker protections, so be it, but in many cases, that just means snuffing out the careers of promising younger or newer employees—not necessarily the least productive employees.

The federal civil service could be shifted from union-protected roles, insulated from consequences for bad performance, to at-will employees; Congress has the power to change this at any time. (Bills to do so have been introduced before.) It's odd that the Trump administration hasn't pursued more structural change or pressured Congress to make that happen—not only to ensure they have the legal authority to make the workforce changes they seek, but also to guarantee these positive changes stick around for years to come.

More people seeking unemployment benefits: As I was saying yesterday, firing people is costly. Indeed, "the number of Americans filing for jobless benefits rose by 22,000 to 242,000 for the week ending Feb. 22, the Labor Department said Thursday," per the Associated Press. Now, this is a three-month high, but it's still within the normal range. It's a spike, but it's not an absolutely crazy spike—just yet. But federal employees laid off by DOGE haven't all filed for their unemployment benefits, so the number is expected to continue its upward climb over the coming weeks and months.

Epstein files released, but also kind of not: New Attorney General Pam Bondi had been hyping the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, specifically information the government has been withholding about the sex-offender financier who died in jail and the powerful people he associated with on his horrifying rape-island. But the actual release contained pretty much nothing new, leaving more questions than answers. "The document dump largely consisted of flight logs for Mr. Epstein's planes—long ago made public—and contact information for hundreds of associates, along with brief descriptions of items found at his residences," reports The New York Times. These white binders were released to MAGA-sycophant influencers, who posed for a distasteful photo op with them, and are apparently now pretty pissed off that there's not much actually there:

The binder-wielding influencers are frustrated with how Pam Bondi handled today, per @RaheemKassam https://t.co/XTlaO86Hpq pic.twitter.com/iCMvdt5S9a

— Jacob Shamsian ⚖️ (@JayShams) February 28, 2025

The government made a big thing about pursuing transparency, but there's been no such thing. They most likely have far more than 200 pages worth of information on Epstein's associates; why was such a big deal made of this release, when they're clearly withholding?


Scenes from New York: How "Big Window" became a design trend.


QUICK HITS

  • Matt Taibbi on Just Asking Questions: "The Department of Homeland Security…has this concept, you know, they call it building resilience on the one hand, or pre-bunking on the other, which is this idea of introducing a potentially controversial or difficult idea to an audience early so that they'll be more accepting of it later. So, for instance, if it's usually it's done in a way that's supposed to be prophylactic, like you warn somebody five months ahead of time that there could be, you know, Russians might interfere with the election, and that will make people more receptive to the idea that there is when you do that story later on. But sometimes they also like to introduce an idea. And this is all about how do we protect people against certain kinds of ideas and how do we conditioned them to accept others, like about the vaccine. And either they talk about building resilience, which is we want the the population to and sort of on their own reject psychologically certain ideas before they're even posed to them. So there's a lot of signaling that goes on in media…the 60 Minutes [German hate speech] thing felt to me like a classic seeding of a of an idea." Honestly…my favorite episode yet. Matt Taibbi is a gem. Please, please, please watch our show on YouTube; I guarantee you'll learn something from this episode.

  • DON'T DIE comes to Calabasas:

The Kardashians and @hubermanlab came over for dinner.

We discussed if we may be the first generation to not die. @KimKardashian was down. @khloekardashian wasn't sold. On @hulu tonight. pic.twitter.com/bAkHFXe1tH

— Bryan Johnson /dd (@bryan_johnson) February 27, 2025

  • "China warned it would hit back at Donald Trump's trade threats after the US president unveiled additional tariffs on Chinese imports, raising the risk of tensions spiraling between the world's largest economies," reports Bloomberg. "Beijing's reaction came hours after Trump announced an additional 10% tariff would take effect March 4, citing drug flows from North American neighbors at 'very high and unacceptable levels' and China's alleged role in its supply. The new levies follow a previous 10% duty implemented earlier this month and represent part of Trump's broad salvos that span technology and investment."
  • Modernizing this process seems like an obviously good move:

Excited to share I'm bringing my designer brain and start-up spirit into the government. My first project at DOGE is improving the slow and paper-based retirement process.

Since leaving my operating role at Airbnb in 2022, I've been looking for the next digital design challenge.… https://t.co/P6GoccLcZJ

— Joe Gebbia (@jgebbia) February 27, 2025

 

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    Meritocracy or random firings?

    I don't care, Margaret.

    1. Minadin   3 months ago

      First, Liz needs to stop parroting the rest of the media when they use the public sector union terminology in conflating layoffs with firings. Layoffs are done for budget reasons, firings are generally with cause. The public sector union officials are using the term 'firings' because they know it sounds bad, worse than 'layoffs'. But since they've never experienced either of them as an industry, they don't know why it sounds worse. It actually suggests that it's the fault of the employee, ironically.

      Second, they all seem to misunderstand what a probationary employee is. The administration is letting these newer people go because, due to the union, they're the easiest ones to target. I'm sure the administration would much rather take out the lazier people with more history and therefore more job security and pay.

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   3 months ago

        She also ignores the fact that just because congress says the executive has to do something, it does not mean it is constitutional. There are many past USSC cases and analysis regarding this going back to the spoils system.

        And here stating congress gave departments the power to hire and fire is meaningless as Trump has the power of the executive in the vestment clause and can order those departments to do the firings.

      2. mad.casual   3 months ago

        Moreover, Thomas Sowell points out in a distinct opportunity cost/Bastiat's Things Unseen-fashion that the real cost of such corruption isn't the money spent in the USAID budget, it's the opportunities lost from the added cost of the budget.

        From a libertarian liberty perspective, the merit of someone dutifully dispensing taxpayer dollars to Guatemalan Transgender Operas *should* be suspect. Even if that person is doing a superlative job handing out grants and/or loans as they should be dispensed, they should be in the private sector handing out loans to dispensaries or steel mill owners or Mexican-Asian-Immigrant-Food-Massage-Fusion truck owners. Not doling out public funds no matter how good a job they do.

        1. Rick James   3 months ago

          OH what to do if we're actually good at facilitating corruption?

      3. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

        Liz needs to stop parroting the rest of the media when they use the public sector union terminology in conflating layoffs with firings

        Policing people's language is not going to make mass job loss more palatable. Fired/laid off...no one is confused about what's happening here.

        Having the administration apologetic about the losses, describing how it's a necessary and painful cut (as opposed to high fives, smiles and prop chainsaws) could help somewhat though.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          Sure. As soon as these (mostly liberal) unemployed apologize to all the people in private companies laid off through policies they supported.

          1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

            Do you include the people that clean the bathrooms or serve the lunches; the IT people, the drivers etc.? Laying the blame on people, who just took the best job they could get under the circumstances of the nation they live, for the policies enacted by congress seems pretty misplaced.

            I know a lot of Trump supporting government employees...well, maybe formerly Trump supporting...

            1. Hank Ferrous   3 months ago

              You 'knowing a lot' of Trump-supporting govt employees doesn't change the fact that per public records (opensecrets, openthebooks, etc, roughly 80% of govt employees donate to either democratic or progressives candidates and causes. The point about who is laid off is fair, but it's nearly impossible to get rid of most govt workers for incompetence, abuse of funds or position, and so forth. The 'lower' employees that you describe are rarely the issue, it's the desk jockeys the paper tigers that are untouchable and governing via policy letter who are. The govt workforce wasn't intended to be lifetime positions in disregard of ability to carry out the functions of the job.

              1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

                Sure,

                I'm not saying DOGE shouldn't be laying people off. There is government bloat that should be trimmed.

                I'm just saying that we shouldn't blame or take pleasure in the pain it causes to those being let go, even *gasp* liberals.

        2. Minadin   3 months ago

          If you're fired, you're generally:
          1. not rehirable, and
          2. not eligible for unemployment benefits.

          There's a significant difference, and allowing one side to conflate the two terms is not helping the discussion.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

            This

          2. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

            Do you really think anyone is confused that these employees were let go for cause? People just use these terms loosely.

            1. Uilleam   3 months ago

              "Republicans pounce!".

              The language they use is always deliberate. Stop giving them a pass. It makes you look foolish.

              1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

                Was Liz Wolfe pouncing?

                I'd rather look foolish than take the woke road of bitching about others' language.

                1. Uilleam   3 months ago

                  woosh

            2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

              They are dismissed with cause. Cause they need to go.

              1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

                LOL. Nice one.

      4. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

        No.
        Probationary employees have less protections due to federal law, not unions.
        Calling these "layoffs" would be worse because RIFs have detailed regulations that DOGE is ignoring.
        And you don't want OPM to have the power to fire people. They don't know anything about employees or what they do.

        1. MT-Man   3 months ago

          Molly you're not correct. Again, your Phd should have given you access in your educational experience within a union-based system to see the workings of the system and Union protections of long-time employees. Not showing up for no cause isn't a federal protection but it is a union protection, and long-term employees get that benefit to an almost comical extension.

          1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

            Unions might give workers some added protections, the bulk of the protections for union and non-union workers is federal law.
            Show me a union contract that protects AWOL?

            1. Uilleam   3 months ago

              Shutdown all public sector unions. Then lay them all off. How about that?

      5. Roberta   3 months ago

        I know this isn't the only example of "layoff" being used this way, meaning a permanent termination, but it's always had the suggestion of being temporary, i.e. that those laid off will be hired back. So "lay off", while not unprecedentedly so, is just as inapt in its own way as "fired".

        1. Social Justice is neither   3 months ago

          No, most industries layoffs are permanent, or at least until some condition changes. If you want RIF instead then knock yourself out. The point is the role is expected to not be replaced for a time whereas firings tend to be replaced and for cause by the employee.

        2. Marshal   3 months ago

          but it's always had the suggestion of being temporary,

          This is not true. Certain industries work this way but the term layoff itself does not denote or connote temporary. It has always covered both.

        3. Minadin   3 months ago

          We've typically used the term 'furloughed' for a temporary employment gap that was intended to be temporary.

    2. mad.casual   3 months ago

      No, but you . . . you . . . you're thinking of this place all
      wrong. As if I had the merit back in a safe. The merit's not
      here. Your merit's in Joe The Plumber's house . . . right next to yours. And in the Kennedy house, and Mrs. Macklin's house, and a hundred others. Why, you're lending them the money to build, and then, they're going to pay it back to you as best they can. Now what are you going to do? Foreclose on them?

    3. Thoritsu   3 months ago

      Right on.

    4. Eeyore   3 months ago

      If a tapeworm is killing me, do I care that it worked hard to get there? No I don't. I kill it.

      1. Ajsloss   3 months ago

        What if the tapeworm has a family?

        1. Eeyore   3 months ago

          Don't they all?

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          What if the tapeworm is from a protected class and has a trans family?

          1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   3 months ago

            Now I'm applying to usaid for a grant regarding my trans tapeworm opera.

            1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

              I’m going to get a grant to study your trans tapeworm opera and how it effects BIPOCs in Ghana.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

                I’m going to get a grant to produce a stage show starring big boobed glamor model women of color of that play. And another grant to have the hotter ones also act as my emotional support sluts.

          2. mad.casual   3 months ago

            In the context of the hermaphrodite discussion below, I'm using the inverse of this from now on.

            "I'm non-binary!"
            "You mean like an intestinal parasites or pond scum?"
            "No, I mean I'm a human, but without traditional human genders."
            "Ah, so more like intestinal parasites, toenail fungus, or fecal microbes."
            "No, I'm human, but neither man nor woman."
            "Right. Like a tapeworm or toenail fungus you are externally, visually associated with the appearance of a human or the human species but you, yourself, aren't a human with human sexual characteristics."
            "No. No. No. I mean I know I'm human. I feel that I'm a human but that I don't feel male or female or that I'm a female trapped in a male."
            "I mean, I don't know that a tapeworm doesn't feel like it's not human and/or the center of its universe either. It's entirely possible it feels like a man trapped in a woman trapped in a tapeworms' body and you're just denying it the abstract social constructs to voice its lived experiences..."

            1. Eeyore   3 months ago

              Lol

        3. Uilleam   3 months ago

          He could probably get a subsidy.

    5. CindyF   3 months ago

      When people cry about federal workers losing their jobs, take a look at the numbers below. I suspect our nation's federal agencies can benefit from a bit of trimming of the fat.

      Increase in federal employees since 2018:

      2019: 1,898,440 federal employees
      2020: 1,936,454 federal employees
      2021: 1,956,539 federal employees
      2022: 1,960,181 federal employees
      2023: 2.87 million federal employees
      2024: 3 million federal employees

      1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

        These numbers are false. Try looking up real data next time.

        https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-people-work-for-the-federal-government/

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

          It’s still far too many people, Molly.

        2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

          It’s still 3 million people. Need to cut that by at least a third.

          Are you a federal worker Tony?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    ...this time at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, where some 800 probationary employees (out of 13,000 total employees) are being let go.

    That should further cut down on the federal government's ammunition budget.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

      I need to find a more recent appraisal, but these are some older snippets.

      According to a report released by the Government Accountability Office in 2018, the IRS has been stockpiling ammunition and weapons for years. As of 2018, the agency had 4,487 firearms and 5,062,006 rounds of ammunition in its inventory, the report said. The IRS purchased more than $700,000 in ammunition in recent days.

      Loading the Gun Locker – Federal agencies spent $44 million on guns, including an “urgent” order for 20 M-16 Rifles with extra magazines at the Department of Energy ($49,559); shotguns and Glock pistols at the General Services Administration ($16,568); and a bulk order of pistols, sights, and accessories by the Bureau of Reclamation whose main job is to build dams, power plants, and canals ($697,182).

      Buying Bullets in Bulk – The government spent $114 million on ammunition, including bulk purchases by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) ($66,927); the Smithsonian ($42,687); and the Railroad Retirement Board ($6,941). The Social Security Administration spent $61,129 on bullets including 50,000 rounds of ammunition plus 12-gauge buckshot and slug ammo.

      The EPA special agents purchased ammunition for their .357 and 9mm revolvers and buckshot for their shotguns. While Bernie Sanders claimed that the biggest adversary to the United States was climate change, the EPA stood ready to fight in ways we couldn’t have imagined.

      Hollow-Point Bullets – Despite being outlawed by the Geneva Convention, federal agencies spent $426,268 on hollow-point bullets, including orders from the Forest Service, National Park Service, Office of Inspector General, Bureau of Fiscal Service, as well as Drug Enforcement Administration, U.S. Marshals, and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

        Along these same lines, and similarly out-of-date (was talking about the new IRS armed agents being hired under Biden's expansion)...

        As for the IRS, one might see that *perhaps* there is some need for armed IRS agents. But armed Department of Education agents? Armed FDA agents? Armed USDA agents?

        A federal spokesman tried to distance the Education Department from the raid [on Kenneth Wright, Stockton CA] by emphasizing that the IG runs a "semi-independent office." But that begs the question of why a federal agency overseeing education policy should have an IG who can send agents armed with guns into Americans' homes. Or why the department has SWAT-style teams of agents to begin with.

        [...]

        But the list includes dozens of federal agencies with no business training and fielding armed officers. Who wants early-morning armed break-ins by the Department of Agriculture, Railroad Retirement Board, Bureau of Land Management, Tennessee Valley Authority, Office of Personnel Management, and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service?

        From Forbes again:

        What’s curious, however, is that traditionally administrative agencies spent more than $20 million. Four notable examples:

        1) The 2,300 Special Agents at the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) are allowed to carry AR-15’s, P90 tactical rifles, and other heavy weaponry. Recently, the IRS armed up with $1.2 million in new ammunition. This was in addition to the $11 million procurement of guns, ammunition, and military-style equipment procured between 2006-2014.

        2) The Small Business Administration (SBA) spent tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars to load its gun locker with Glocks last year. The SBA wasn’t alone – the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service modified their Glocks with silencers.

        3) The Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) has a relatively new police force. In 1996, the VA had zero employees with arrest and firearm authority. Today, the VA has 3,700 officers, armed with millions of dollars’ worth of guns and ammunition including AR-15's, Sig Sauer handguns, and semi-automatic pistols.

        4) Meanwhile, Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) agents carry the same sophisticated weapons platforms used by our Special Forces military warriors. The HHS gun locker is housed in a new “National Training Operations Center” – a facility at an undisclosed location within the DC beltway.

        Spending on guns and ammo at 58 non-military federal agencies – including 40 regulatory, administrative agencies – amounted to $158 million.

        The continued growth of the federal arsenal begs the question: Just whom are the feds planning to battle?

        1. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

          DOGE should slash all these private agency armies, and work it out so that when these agencies actually NEED some sort of armed LEO, they can call upon US Marshals to handle those tasks. In which case I expect the Marshals to demand well-documented warrants, etc. justifying their deployment.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

          None of these agencies need weaponry like that. I can see BLM, USFWS having some weapons to deal with attacking wildlife (trunk bears?) and the occasional nutcase (self defense), but there’s no way the SBA, IRS, etc need weapons.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

            (trunk bears?)

            It was a good analogy! Stop being mean!

            1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 months ago

              The greatest most beautiful analogy. Some are calling it the best of all time.

            2. Fats of Fury   3 months ago

              Well, the anal part was apt.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

        ""and 5,062,006 rounds of ammunition in its inventory, the report said. The IRS purchased more than $700,000 in ammunition in recent days.""

        It was once said that government agencies were buying large amounts of ammo as a means of reducing ammo available to citizens.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

          And it was true.

          1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

            DOGE should audit alphabet agencies ammo stocks. Slash the amount and send it to the CMP for sale.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    The Social Security Administration plans to slash its workforce by half.

    NO ONE SAID SMALLER GOVERNMENT MEANT PAIN INSIDE THE BELTWAY.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

      The first rule of government bloat club is that we don't talk about government bloat club.

      1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

        SSA is not bloated. They have an very low administrative cost percent.
        Truth and facts are an enemy to MAGAs.

        1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

          You’re a silly little bitch.

          1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

            That’s how Tony role plays at the bathhouse.

            1. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

              He's way too old to be playing a twink.

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

          Truth and facts are an enemy

          Remember when you told us that it's impossible to learn COBOL, and everyone who ever did is dead?

        3. Jefferson Paul   3 months ago

          Is there any area of the federal government that you do see as bloated, or having a lot of waste, that you would cheer on cutting?

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 months ago

            The Oval Office? Cost more to make it oval; square the room, gentleman!

            1. Jefferson Paul   3 months ago

              For that matter, "why is it called Ovaltine? The mug is round. The jar is round. They should call it Roundtine."

  4. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Whistleblower: There’s a Trans Cult Inside the NSA
    https://www.city-journal.org/article/nsa-whistleblower-trans-gender-ideology-dei

    NSA Whistleblower: About ten years ago, they started doing the “employee resource groups”: African-American, veterans, Pride. It was just a meeting here and there, almost like a potluck—culture, food, a speech. Then it started to get more and more. Instead of just one day a month, it was one week a month, or the whole month. You could be hired as a mathematician, a staff officer, or system engineer, but you would spend your time going to these events and having meetings all day about it. They got themselves into position to help craft policy and started pushing the idea that if you want to get promoted, you have to participate in these events.

    And then everything became Pride. You would go to a training, and it would be about “privilege” and “how to be a better ally.” A lady would give classes on how to talk “gender-neutral” to people. You had analysts that didn’t want to do the reporting they were supposed to be doing because they were going to have to report on somebody’s “dead name.” They were having this crisis of conscience about reporting the adversary’s actual name because they thought it was their “dead name,” and they didn’t want to disrespect the person. It was like a cult that was hellbent on pushing gender ideology.

    Rufo: It seems like this is a clique of very activist male-to-female transgender agents. Tell me about this community.

    Whistleblower: There is a very small number of them, but they wield an enormous amount of power. And outside of the sick stuff, you also see a prevalent Marxist philosophy going on with these people in their chat rooms. They hate capitalism. They hate Christians. They’re always espousing socialist and Marxist beliefs.

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

      https://twitchy.com/grateful-calvin/2025/02/25/more-nsa-follow-up-from-chris-rufo-n2408945

      LEAKED: NSA and CIA officials express their desire to have hermaphrodite babies in order to advance trans ideology. “An intersex birth would be a great opportunity to raise a kid as non-binary and let them choose later.”

      The people who run the surveillance state are insane.

      1. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

        Being a psychopath is pretty much a job requirement for a spook.

      2. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

        Secret CIA Files Say Staffers Committed Sex Crimes Involving Children
        https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/cia-employees-sex-crimes-children-secret-files-foia

        Over the past 14 years, the Central Intelligence Agency has secretly amassed credible evidence that at least 10 of its employees and contractors committed sexual crimes involving children.

        Though most of these cases were referred to US attorneys for prosecution, only one of the individuals was ever charged with a crime. Prosecutors sent the rest of the cases back to the CIA to handle internally, meaning few faced any consequences beyond the possible loss of their jobs and security clearances. That marks a striking deviation from how sex crimes involving children have been handled at other federal agencies such as the Department of Homeland Security and the Drug Enforcement Administration. CIA insiders say the agency resists prosecution of its staff for fear the cases will reveal state secrets.

        1. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

          How Trump’s government-cutting moves risk exposing the CIA’s secrets
          https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/24/politics/cia-security-risks-trump/index.html

          Meanwhile, as the CIA weighs staff cuts, current and former intelligence officials say that mass firings could offer a rich recruitment opportunity for foreign intelligence services — like China or Russia — who may seek to exploit financially vulnerable or resentful former employees. The Justice Department has charged multiple former military and intelligence officials for providing US intelligence to China in recent years.

          ...Career officials have also moved to mitigate what they see as potential counterintelligence risks stemming from the work done by Musk’s DOGE.

          When Bessent signed off on access for DOGE officials to the government’s payment system, intelligence officials immediately flagged that the system isn’t just used for Social Security and Medicaid payments. It’s also used to funnel intelligence community payments — including the CIA’s — whether through front companies or real commercial entities that the intelligence community partners with on sensitive programs.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

            Hmm, if fired NSA staff represent a security risk, what else could we do with them?

            1. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

              Fire up the wood chippers.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

                You rang?

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

          Can't create crisis actors for left-wing causes without raping a few minors.

      3. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

        Coming Out as Transgender Made Me a More Effective CIA Officer
        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/03/transgender-cia/520050/

      4. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

        These people are completely bonkers. There’s no such thing as a mammalian hermaphrodite.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          Then why even tell kids they should be one?

        2. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

          There are some, a very small percentage. That anyone thinks such a very small group should dictate society to everyone else is what's bonkers. Negative and positives rights and all that.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

            I would argue that those are merely intersex with a host of medical issues. A true hermaphrodite would have both sets of sex organs, and they would both work correctly.

            1. mad.casual   3 months ago

              A true hermaphrodite would have both sets of sex organs, and they would both work correctly.

              This is correct. There is also a less strict technical definition accounting for organisms that *can* have both and they function, they just don't, and then there's an informal non-technical definition which, if taken as some sort of socially validating policy or implication, would also validate terms like 'freak', 'trannie', and 'queer' in any/all, i.e. including derogatory, uses.

              If you don't think people should generally use, e.g., the word 'freak' to describe such people because it erodes the social fabric, hermaphrodite shouldn't be used in the same/inverse fashion for pretty much the same reasons.

          2. mad.casual   3 months ago

            There are some, a very small percentage.

            False. This is or has been part of the progressive redefinition of hermaphrodite. TL,DR - There are organisms where male and female reproduction take place at the same time, the expansion of the definition to include mammalian biology where the male reproductive system in the same organism sterilizes the female reproductive system and vice versa isn't just semantic drift.

            Plants have long been know to be hermaphroditic, prokaryotic and eukaryotic organisms, nematodes, and arguable even some vertebrates. The specific, original, or pure notion was that a hermaphrodite had distinct sexes but can/could self-fertilize reproductively or successfully. This was softened to include the higher organisms like nematodes and the few vertebrates that couldn't necessarily self-fertilize, but could change sexes and still effectively reproduce, the only bar to true hermaphroditism being conceptual or logistic or timeing, not possibility, not viable reproduction. More recently, in the last 20-30 yrs. it has recently been expanded to include this false category of individuals that generally cannot reproduce with others and certainly not with themselves and even if they could, are/would be non-viable.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

              +1

          3. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

            I stand corrected. Even Wikipedia agrees my knowledge is 18 19 years out of date.

            Hermaphrodism is not to be confused with ovotesticular syndrome in mammals, which is a separate and unrelated phenomenon. While people with the condition were previously called "true hermaphrodites" in medical literature, this usage is now considered to be outdated as of 2006 and misleading, as people with ovotesticular syndrome do not have functional sets of both male and female organs.

            1. mad.casual   3 months ago

              I stand corrected.

              No issues. Uninformed is not disinforming. It should again be noted, especially in the context of NSA idiocy, that even if there were a hermaphroditic human... even if you took stem cells and differentiated them to egg and sperm of the same individual... the fertilization (absent other massive intervention) would produce a traditional male or a female human.

              The sexual/biological distinction and logic being woven into (if not a bit inverted) the fact that you can't take two mules and breed your way back to getting a horse. Even if you successfully breed two mules, they only have 63 chromosomes whereas a horse has 64.

      5. mad.casual   3 months ago

        “An intersex birth would be a great opportunity to raise a kid as non-binary and let them choose later.”

        So, in order to make this statement, you have to have the requisite understanding that a) sex is largely/generally extrinsically determined during pregnancy and identified or recognized at birth and b) it is not then nor later a choice, merely the subsequent personal interpretation or identification.

        More monstrously; rather central to the human condition is the question "Why am I here?" or "What am I supposed to do?" what power religion and culture has is the ability to answer that question. Even if only to tell the individual they can choose. These people, in utterly horrific Frankenstein fashion want to burden not their, but other people's hypothetical children with the issue "What am I?" first.

        Worse than mis-reading 1984, they didn't read All You Zombies as a think piece about a tragic anomaly trapped in their own Kafka-esque alternate reality, but as an instruction manual.

        1. See.More   3 months ago

          "Why am I here?"

          Because my dad tapped my mom raw...

    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

      Bring back McCarthyism, and show no mercy to any Marxists.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    Hundreds of federal workers are being promoted daily every time we encounter excellence.

    It's a veritable Hunger Games right now in DC.

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   3 months ago

      I like that analogy; now let's taking from metaphorical to "another level"; that would be television worth watching

    2. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

      There is no evidence DOGE is promoting anyone. They don't have the authority.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

        No, they aren’t promoting anyone. They, as with everything they do, and you’ve been told a million times, make recommendations to the chief executive, and he implements said recommendations directly from his office, being as he is in charge of the entire executive branch.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (Trump Ascendant!! )   3 months ago

          Tony will forget that next time too.

  6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

    Mass firings are not meritocracy? Sure, unless masses of workers are not performing as desired.

    And--news flash--a libertarian might think some government programs are not necessary, no matter how efficient and brilliant the staff might be.

    1. Idaho-Bob   3 months ago

      And--news flash--a libertarian might think some government programs are not necessary, no matter how efficient and brilliant the staff might be.

      100% this.

      John Moses Browning could be working for the ATF, and I still want it abolished.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

        He's probably still collecting his Ponzi pension.

    2. Cyrano   3 months ago

      Your mistake is still looking for libertarian ideas to be expressed at Reason.

    3. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

      How would DOGE know which workers are performing if they are not looking at performance when deciding who to cut?

      1. Truthfulness   3 months ago

        That's precisely what they're doing. Notice the e-mail that was sent this past week. Employees needed to respond what they've done to justify their employment. Fail that, and you get fired.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    It is very, very hard to fire long-time federal employees, whereas it is much easier to fire recently hired probationary employees.

    By the time the entrenched retire they will be training Skynet to replace them.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

      Plus, you don’t have to fight the fucking unions to let probationary employees go.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

      That's honestly the side of the coin that gets overlooked. The minimum full retirement age is 62, and normal RIFs do include a lot of not-so-subtle efforts to get the fossils in their late 60s and early 70s out the door before they die at their desk.

      The only real reason that the probs were axed was simply because they can be removed any time. There's also instances of people who might have several years in the system already, but if they switch departments or agencies, or get a particularly large promotion, they often go on probationary status because they aren't in that particular departments hierarchy. So it's not just recent college grads or separated veterans getting the axe in that situation.

      The biggest issue here is that Trump is trying to establish that it doesn't really matter who's doing the firing because it all comes from the authority of the President, whereas in the past RIFs would be coordinated by the department heads after getting instructions to do so from the boss. There are EOs that mention preparations for RIFs, but most of these removals are being coordinated via OPM at the moment, which is basically the HR department for the government.

      And lastly, the other major issue is that a lot of the job cuts are going to be pretty marginal as far as saving money, because employee pay and benefits for all of them total about $275 billion, which isn't going to make the kind of dent in the deficit needed to even get below the $1 trillion mark. Ultimately it's about math, and while every little bit helps, these cuts are clearly more ideological than they are mathematical.

  8. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Left-wing theatre managers who invited 200 migrants to a free show will abandon the building and face bankruptcy as refugees still refuse to leave after three months and spark wave of sex-related violence
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14444165/Left-wing-theatre-managers-invited-200-migrants-free-abandon-building-face-bankruptcy-refugees-refuse-leave-three-months-spark-wave-sex-related-violence.html

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

      Illegal immigrant who had been deported four times is jailed for life for killing 5 neighbors
      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14356705/illegal-immigrant-deported-jailed-neighbors-murdered-texas.html

      1. Michael Ejercito   3 months ago

        And David Nieporent calls people Nazis for opposing this.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          David Nieporent calls people Nazis for opposing him.

  9. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Five Democrats in Bridgeport, Connecticut Officially Indicted on Voter Fraud Charges Over Mail-In Ballots
    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/02/five-democrats-bridgeport-connecticut-officially-indicted-voter-fraud/

    1. Longtobefree   3 months ago

      Five is not 'widespread'; doesn't count.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        Also, "old news".

      2. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

        Five is basically 0.

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

          Yes. Round fives to the nearest even number.

      3. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

        And I’m sure it was the first and last time it happened.

        1. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

          Wrong place, but still appropriate response.

          That's why it's so important to the Left to be dismissive of it. If you ignore that it happened the first time, and the second time, then when it happens the third time, you can pretend it's happening for the first time. Totally new! Never before seen!

    2. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

      It's also the 2nd time some of them have been in trouble for the same thing!

      1. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

        That's why it's so important to the Left to be dismissive of it. If you ignore that it happened the first time, and the second time, then when it happens the third time, you can pretend it's happening for the first time. Totally new! Never before seen!

  10. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

    Outlaw public employee unions.

    1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

      That would be a violation of 1A right to assembly and right to petition. But I forgive you because I don't expect a fascist to care about civil rights.

      1. MT-Man   3 months ago

        Now tell us about non right to work states...

        1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

          Contracts between two private organizations are not covered under 1A.
          Also "right to work" is a political marketing term. Those states force unions to represent workers who do not pay dues.

          1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

            Wrong.

      2. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

        They could assemble and petition all they like. But, government should be prohibited from contracting with them.

      3. XM   3 months ago

        You have no right to collectively bargain. Me and my friends can form a neighborhood watch and crash every town hall meeting, but the governments and private business are under no obligation to provide me with a forum or form a business relationship.

        It's 100% kosher for congress to outlaw unionized worker in their own domain. No different from us not having any trade with North Korea.

      4. Commenter_XY   3 months ago

        That noted conservative, Franklin Delano Roosevelt, proposed making federal public sector unions illegal.

  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

    'But federal employees laid off by DOGE haven't all filed for their unemployment benefits, so the number is expected to continue its upward climb over the coming weeks and months.'

    I would say fired federal employees have used up their time sucking on taxpayers.

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   3 months ago

      Isn't UI funded by a per head tax on non government businesses? Should fed workers even qualify?

      1. Marshal   3 months ago

        No, federal agencies are not subject to state unemployment taxes. However, federal agencies do participate in the federal-state program that provides unemployment benefits to eligible former federal employees

        So the agency doesn't pay the tax but the employees still get the benefits. It's yet anther way the institutional left has corrupted the process to benefit themselves.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          Hey, getting stuff from government funded by taxes that other people pay is the very definition of (D)emocracy.

      2. Eeyore   3 months ago

        In some cases they do pay into UCFE, but I don't think it is the same fund everyone else pays into. I would bet they don't pay as much either.

  12. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Washington DC family lose custody of their autistic son, 16, after refusing to let him transition to a girl
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

    1. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

      Has to be fake news. Jeffy has assured us many times that that doesn't happen.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

        White Dicksalad Mike has also assured us it doesn’t happen. Where the fuck is that asshole anyway?

        1. Eeyore   3 months ago

          Good question.

        2. Michael Ejercito   3 months ago

          Forgot to breathe and died?

          1. Eeyore   3 months ago

            Too many boosters?

  13. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    Meanwhile, "the Justice Department argued that the president has 'inherent constitutional authority' to decide 'how best to manage the Executive Branch, including whom to hire and remove, what conditions to place on continued employment, and what processes to employ in making these determinations.'"

    The DoJ lawyers arguing this are banking on being spared the culling. If so, Justice will have its own passover holiday.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    It's odd that the Trump administration hasn't pursued more structural change or pressured Congress to make that happen...

    So he's not wringing any juice out of the Epstein list at all? Boooo.

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

    "The Department of Homeland Security…has this concept, you know, they call it building resilience on the one hand, or pre-bunking on the other, which is this idea of introducing a potentially controversial or difficult idea to an audience early so that they'll be more accepting of it later."

    So, kinda like a government misinformation vaccine? At least we didn't have to carry little cards showing which pay-op boosters we absorbed.

  16. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Bones of the Womb: Healing Algorithms of BIPOC Reproductive Trauma with Rituals, Ceremonies, Prayers, Spells, and the Ancestors (The Production of Life Affirming Epistemology of Grief)
    https://knowledgehub.southfeministfutures.org/kb/bones-of-the-womb-healing-algorithms-of-bipoc-reproductive-trauma-with-rituals-ceremonies-prayers-spells-and-the-ancestors-the-production-of-life-affirming-epistemology-of-grief/

    1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

      I'd think Kamala wrote that except the words have more than one syllable.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    New Attorney General Pam Bondi had been hyping the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files...

    Only to find the cameras had been turned off and the list had "hanged itself" overnight.

  18. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

    'DON'T DIE comes to Calabasas'

    Who wants to live forever in a world "influenced" by the Kardashians?

    1. Quo Usque Tandem   3 months ago

      Like herpes, they come and go but never really leave

  19. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

    Elon Musk: "We will make mistakes. We won't be perfect ... so for example, with USAID, one of the things we accidentally canceled very briefly was ebola prevention." [video]

    Can you imagine if a Democratic president’s biggest donor was in the White House just over a month in saying they accidentally cancelled a program for ebola prevention?

    No, I can’t ever imagine. A Democrat acknowledging he made a mistake, owning up to it, fixing it, and moving on? You are right. I can’t imagine that.
    In what universe would the standard be zero defects when you’re trying to reform the biggest entity in all of human history even as it operates and as it fights the reforms?

    There are a sh*tload of people letting the perfect be the enemy of the good—while committing the Nirvana Fallacy. I simply can’t imagine another way to go about this because it’s literally never even been attempted before, much less successfully.

    1. Idaho-Bob   3 months ago

      Normal people learns from mistakes. They will own thier mistakes. Democrats cannot, under any circumstances, make even a miniscule mistake. In fact, they will blame the victim and the sarcs of the world will defend it to the last breath. The narcissism is absolutely unreal.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        Once progressives crossed the line into holy doctrine, there can be no mistakes. We simply do not understand the mysteries of their faith.

    2. Eeyore   3 months ago

      We might be better off without ebola prevention. If they are trying to prevent it the same way they tried to prevent COVID.

      1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

        VERY GOOD POINT

    3. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

      Reusing a comment:

      I was intrigued by comments made by Kevin O'Leary: “There’s this concept in private equity, when you get a bankrupt company and you go in there, you cut 20 percent more than your initial read, and then you find, like a pool of mercury, the organization gels back together again.” “Always cut deeper, harder when there’s fat and waste,” he added.

      There was something in one article I read, I thought it was the O'Leary comments one, but I don't find it. Paraphrasing: If you don't accidentally cut something important, you weren't cutting deep enough. It's simple enough to recall critical performers if they get caught up in the wash.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        Sounds like the opposite of establishment state government bureaucracy. They want to keep expanding and spending, adding people and programs until they find something that sorta works.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 months ago

          You can leave off the "until they find something that sorta works." Doesn't matter. At all.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    "Big Window" became a design trend.

    It's less lucrative than an OnlyFans.

  21. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Please protect me from DOGE seeing my tax info:

    A Five-Year Prison Sentence for a Public Hero
    Leniency is needed for a good kind of civil disobedience.
    https://prospect.org/justice/2024-05-21-five-year-sentence-public-hero-charles-littlejohn/

    On May 1, 2024, Charles Littlejohn began serving a five-year prison sentence for unauthorized disclosure of tax information. His crime is described by the Department of Justice as follows: Littlejohn, a contractor with the IRS, stole documents associated with “Public Official A” and provided it to “News Organization 1,” which published several articles using the information.

    As anyone following this case would recognize, Public Official A is President Donald J. Trump, and News Organization 1 is The New York Times.

    Littlejohn performed a public service. A presidential tax return contains information highly relevant to the voting public, and President Trump broke decades of tradition by refusing to disclose his returns. Moreover, when President Nixon’s tax return was leaked in the 1970s, the IRS leaker was not even indicted.

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

      IRS admits anti-Trump taxman leaked data on 405K filers — six times more than previously known
      https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/us-news/irs-admits-anti-trump-taxman-leaked-data-on-405k-filers-six-times-more-than-previously-known/

      A former Internal Revenue Service contractor who leaked President Trump’s tax returns to two media outlets also disclosed information about more than 405,000 other filers, the agency revealed to the House Judiciary Committee earlier this month.

      The IRS previously said Charles Edward Littlejohn, 39, had exposed information on “more than 70,000” people and businesses in 2019 and 2020 when he provided ProPublica and the New York Times with copies of Trump’s tax returns.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        But somehow that is "democracy", right?

      2. Marshal   3 months ago

        I think Pro Publica is also who someone at the IRS sent detailed confidential information on the Tea Party entities that Lois Lerner illegally refused to authorize.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          Are they on the USAID payroll?

          1. Marshal   3 months ago

            I default-presume every left wing NGO is on the payroll, with the strength of that presumption inversely correlated to the amount of positive impact the NGO has. If all you do is complain about non-leftists the chances are 99.9896%

  22. mad.casual   3 months ago

    Mass Firings Aren't Meritocracy

    False. As has been pointed out before, you cannot actually discover the most valuable and critical employees until you fire them and things actually grind to a halt and not just "We fired the holder of the keys and now no one holds the keys." grinds to a halt but "Other people we know we're keeping say they need this person doing their job to do theirs." grinds to a halt.

    Markets hire and fire redundant people all the time. It doesn't mean their work doesn't have merit, it means their merit is redundant in the current position and they have to take it elsewhere.

    1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

      What? This doesn't make any sense.

      1. Eeyore   3 months ago

        Sure it does. You can be good at your job and doing it well, but the company you are working for doesn't need anyone to do that job anymore.

        1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

          What you're saying makes sense. It also supports Liz's claim that the lay offs are not merit based and in direct opposition to MC's claim that Liz is wrong.

          So how does it make sense?

          1. Truthfulness   3 months ago

            Merit cannot allow redundancy. Laying off an unneeded employee implies he is overall less valuable to the company than the one who wasn't laid off.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        I see you never had to live in a reality world.

        1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

          Why do you say that? I've survived many lay offs and lost a job in a lay off in case that's what you're getting at.

          All I'm saying is that all of MC's facts, while true, don't support his claim that laying off probationary employees is merit based.

      3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 months ago

        This guy is one of Detroit's famed Blacksmiths

        1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

          ?

  23. Fist of Etiquette   3 months ago

    Please, please, please watch our show on YouTube...

    You don't get anything if I just listen to it through my favorite podcast app?

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   3 months ago

      I don't do the tube, why can't she settle for a listen on Spotify.

      1. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 months ago

        Spotify is for those who have a face for radio?

  24. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    https://freebeacon.com/energy/biden-environmental-justice-adviser-received-millions-after-personally-applying-for-epa-grant/

    In the final weeks of the Biden administration, the Environmental Protection Agency awarded a lucrative environmental justice grant to a left-wing nonprofit whose CEO—LaTricea Adams—personally applied for the taxpayer funding while simultaneously serving as a member of a top White House advisory council.

  25. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

    "Beijing's reaction came hours after Trump announced an additional 10% tariff would take effect March 4, citing drug flows from North American neighbors at 'very high and unacceptable levels' and China's alleged role in its supply. The new levies follow a previous 10% duty implemented earlier this month and represent part of Trump's broad salvos that span technology and investment."

    What would happen if we legalized fentanyl (with or without a 10% tariff)?

    1. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

      I've asked that many times here and never get a meaningful answer from the Legalize Everything folks.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

        No, you have never gotten an answer that agrees with your preconceived notions.

        0. Same as every other product in every other free market. If you believe in free markets, you already know the answer. In all the points below, think of guns and ammo, Hamburger Helper, cars, and any other product you want.

        1. Brands would establish reputations for quality.

        2. Dosages would be clear and accurate.

        3. There would be lawsuits and criminal prosecutions for lying about the product.

        4. The idiots that want to commit suicide would be more effective and remove themselves from the gene pool. Their cousins who dare each other to take lethal doses while being livestreamed would do the same.

        1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

          And I'll add.

          5 Profits would go to legitimate businesses rather than gangs and cartels.

          6 Business disputes will be handled by lawyers and courts instead of drive-bys and executions.

          Yes, fentanyl use would increase and likely addiction as well, but the death rate associated with accidental overdoses would drop.

          1. Eeyore   3 months ago

            I wouldn't promise lower overdose deaths. They might still go up. The margin between effective dose and death gets paper thin once you build a tolerance to fentanil.

            However if safer opiates were also all legal people are likely to choose those instead. Some horoin users ingest fentanil not by choice, but because horoin isn't legal. We are making an entire basket of options illegal.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

              I don't know the medical merits of one drug over another. But almost by definition, smugglers prefer the more potent ones for being easier to hide, while users prefer the safer ones with fewer complications, and those who pay prefer the cheaper ones.

              Then along comes government meddling and gives the smugglers' choice high priority.

            2. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

              Yeah, legalizing other drugs would probably help more than legalizing fentanyl itself.

            3. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

              Good points.

              Hmm. I was thinking that all these opiods would have the same therapeutic window since they are acting on the same receptors.

              Fentanyl is easier to overdose on, not because of it's especially narrow window, but because it's easier for dealers to cut it wrong (or different between different dealers). That is, if I'm diluting a drug 50/50 with inert ingredients and mess up by 1%, the drug is ~2% stronger. If I mess up diluting a drug 1:1000 that 1% error now can make the drug 10X stronger. A Legal supplier would control this such that you know and can control how many µG you get each dose.

              I wouldn't promise lower overdose deaths.

              It's not a promise, but other countries that have gone the way of supplying medical doses of heroin etc. have reduced overdose deaths so there is reason to expect this outcome.

              1. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

                I should have said: the same relative therapeutic window"

        2. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

          A laughable fantasy.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

            Thank you for confirming that no answer can satisfy you.

            Try actually rebutting all those points. Try actually contributing to the discussion you claimed you wanted.

            1. Vernon Depner   3 months ago

              It's not worth it.

              1. Square = Circle   3 months ago

                Then you lose by forfeit.

              2. Jefferson Paul   3 months ago

                I've asked that many times here and never get a meaningful answer from the Legalize Everything folks.

                After several commenters respond with answers, you say it's not worth responding. You've just shown yourself to be a bad-faith interlocutor.

                1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

                  He's also proven himself to not be worth it.

            2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   3 months ago

              There are literally examples in california and Portland where black market drugs still exist even with legalization.

              Yours is a fantasy.

              Also....

              Deug addicts care about the high more than the quality. See explosion of zombie drugs.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

                Those black markets still exist because not all governments made the drugs legal.

  26. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Sat 28 Oct 2006 21.03 EDT
    This article is more than 18 years old
    Ten years to save the planet from mankind
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2006/oct/29/greenpolitics.economy

    The Stern Report will tomorrow reveal that if governments do nothing, climate change will cost more than both world wars and render swathes of the planet uninhabitable. Can the world find the will to act? Gaby Hinsliff reports

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

      At this point I figure I have died at least 10 times in apocalyptic global extinctions, since I started keeping track in the 1970s. I can take another one.

      1. Ajsloss   3 months ago

        How many of those were from covid and how many with?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          (checks notes) Two each.

          Also mass starvation, collapse of modern civilization and violent anarchy, and at least 5 times from burning planet global warming change.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

            Pfff. AOC did all that in a single day.

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 months ago

      climate change will cost more than both world wars

      They're doing their absolute best to drive up the costs in order to make that come true. I mean, fuck it, don't most Democratic administrations get into fights about how we're not spending enough? Not even that we're ignoring certain programs, but simply that there's not enough zeros in the budget line. Biden's team was mad that the Build Back Better bill (we don't even hear much about that massive spending anymore because it's all about the Inflation Reducation Act) got slashed from $3.5 trillion to $2.2 trillion.

      It's not like the extra $1.3 trillion had a purpose, it was just a bigger price tag attached to the same thing, and it largely to combat climate change.

    3. Stupid Government Tricks   3 months ago

      https://extinctionclock.org/

      Tons and tons of predictions, those which have passed their expire-by date, and those which are still pending.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

        Good website.

  27. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    Want To Slow Climate Change? Stop Having Babies
    https://www.technocracy.news/want-slow-climate-change-stop-babies/

    1. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

      Only Immigrants Can Reverse America's Baby Bust
      https://www.realclearpolicy.com/2019/05/29/only_immigrants_can_reverse_america039s_baby_bust_41873.html

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

      "But only white people in Soros influenced countries. The Third World is welcome to be as fecund as possible and then migrate to those countries by the tens of millions."

      1. A Thinking Mind   3 months ago

        That's why we don't do any more mining in the resource-rich United States. Because mining is messy. Let the East Asians and the Africans do it in their own countries, where they take much less care about the potential environmental impacts. Better to just outsource our pollution and pay the carbon tax on the vessels shipping it over here than to risk our own country being a polluter.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

      I definitely support anything that discourages progressives from reproducing. They can then focus on their vegan cats.

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

      One of the biggest problems for landfills is disposable dippers.

      I like to mess with climate alarmist by saying I'm not sacrificing anything for global warming until this is addressed. If you are not willing to go back to cloth diapers how serious can you be about saving the planet.

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

      Want to indulge your self-centered, perpetual childhood life? Stop having babies.

  28. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

    Scott Jennings: I spend most of my time repeating back to liberals their own words and ideas, only to have them - seconds later - deny ever saying them. It’s truly astonishing. This convo on @cnn [video]

    They say that President Trump is “shredding the Constitution” and then follow it up by arguing the military and bureaucracy should resist the orders of their Commander in Chief.

    Truly incredible stuff.

    In Trump's 1st term, media celebrated the generals and other officials they called "The Adults in the Room" -- Kelley, Mattis, McMaster -- for subverting or just ignoring Trump's orders, eg withdrawing from Syria.

    These Democracy Defenders™ cheered military over civilian rule

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

      That clip of him talking to that yapping dog Toure was illuminating, because it epitomized how black marxists in particular always act when they can't counter the argument being presented to them--a lot of rhetorical smokescreeing about gaslighting and a few catchphrases, but no actual point.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        Is there any point to black Marxism? Besides grift, of course.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

          Reversing the races in Plessy.

          I'm being completely serious here, by the way. Kendi literally states that it's a requirement of "anti-racism."

    2. Quo Usque Tandem   3 months ago

      Soviet level mendacity. Do what they want and then tell you it's for the good of the country etc.; black is white.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

      I spend most of my time repeating back to liberals their own words and ideas, only to have them - seconds later - deny ever saying them.

      So I see Scott Jennings has met Sarcasmic.

    4. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

      Yesterday, the Marines.com social media posted about how they were reviewing their past content to comply with the new directive.

      Most responses were:
      1) Trump's a civilian and shouldn't tell the Marines what to do (fucking LOL, the commander-in-chief shouldn't command the military? Stupid Leftists).
      2) Marines have a duty to defend against "domestic enemies" (Trump's orders are illegitimate/unconstitutional, therefore not lawful orders)
      3) Marines should fight back (again, stupid Leftists. They think the military would be more likely to side with the Left?
      4) Marines are boot-lickers (how dare they follow orders! It must be that they are just sucking up to the new president. Stupid Leftists).

      Well, ok, Marines are boot-lickers, as long as the orders are not unlawful, because duh?

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

        ""2) Marines have a duty to defend against "domestic enemies"""

        They only believe that if you are the enemy. Call them the enemy and say the same thing and they will have a totally different response.

        1. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

          Yes, very much so. I believe the response would be "fascist!"

    5. Michael Ejercito   3 months ago

      In Trump's 1st term, media celebrated the generals and other officials they called "The Adults in the Room" -- Kelley, Mattis, McMaster -- for subverting or just ignoring Trump's orders, eg withdrawing from Syria.
      If those generals actually did that, they should have been executed for sedition and disobedience of orders.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

        I mentioned that the general who bragged about defying Trump's order to get troops out of Syria and hiding it from him should have been lined up against a wall and shot.

        1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

          We’re only a month into his second term, so we can still hope.

      2. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

        They did, and instead they got praise and backpats from the media and the Biden administration.

    6. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

      What should the military and civil servants do if the President issues an illegal order?

      1. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

        It depends what the unlawful order is, the specifics of the leader/subordinate, and the timing and context of the order. Are you currently in an active war zone being fired on? Are you a 4 star general in a cushy office scoffing at a memo? Are you a probationary employee filing paperwork?

        If it's "Molly says its an unlawful order, because OrangeManBad", probably they should ignore Molly the ignoramus. If it's "Trump says kill American citizens", then they should absolutely refuse knowing that the consequences of not following said order would be much less awful than following it and facing those consequences.

        Not that Molly would know anything about the military, honor, chain of command, oaths, etc. Eat shit.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

          You left out "fuck off and die, asshole".

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

        We saw what happened. The head of the National Archives told Biden that he couldn’t just will the ERA into being a part of the Constitution.

        Next!

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

          Doh!

      3. Sometimes a Great Notion   3 months ago

        Civil servant - resign. And LOL, if they (most gov employees) actually cared about the constitution, they wouldn't have taken the job in the first place.

        Military is llittle trickier.

  29. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

    We are barreling toward a full blown constitutional crisis.
    Trump's announcement that he's ending thousands of aid contracts FUNDED BY CONGRESS is unconstitutional and illegal - and horrible for our security.

    For 4 years the office of the President of the United States was controlled by unelected aides and political activists who were hiding an incapacitated president.

    THAT was a constitutional crisis.

    Cutting off taxpayer funding of trans surgeries in South America is not.

    1. Ajsloss   3 months ago

      The walls are closing in.

  30. sarcasmic   3 months ago

    "The Office of Personnel Management does not have any authority whatsoever, under any statute in the history of the universe, to hire and fire employees at another agency. They can hire and fire their own employees."

    Saying the law applies to Trump is lawfare. That judge is a leftist who needs to be removed from office immediately, and then sued for defamation and fraud. Anyone who says otherwise is a leftist hypocrite for not raging when Democrats did it first.

    1. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

      WHAT LAW SARCKLES?

      Fill us in.

      1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

        Exactly. What law? The law doesn't apply to Trump. Anyone who says it does is not only a dirty leftist who supports lawfare but also a hypocrite because they didn't get angry at Obama and Biden. They probably want open borders too.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

          Fuck you, cut spending.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

          No, asshole, name the law. Cite the law. Copy and paste the law here. Do that or shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.

        3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

          Fuck off and die, slimy pile of lying lefty shit.

        4. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

          "The law doesn't apply to Trump."

          Again, WHAT LAW SARCKLES?

          There is no law that says Trump can't have one department fire another's employees. As with everything you say it's all retard bullshit.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

        If MG a sarc sock or the other way around? Both spout the same lies, neither ever answers the question.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

          Expecting answers is racist.

          1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

            Is that what the grey box wanted? Maybe it should read the article instead of telling internet randos to be lawyers. What a fucking idiot. Glad it's on mute.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

              Maybe you should heed what the gray boxes say, pussy.

            2. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

              POST THE LIST!

            3. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

              POST THE LIST!

    2. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

      Sarcjeff is a brain-dead, hypocritical, alcoholic, shit-eating, child abusing, low life Leftist scum. Dig a hole, climb in, and FOAD.

    3. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

      Hey sarc. The law applies to Trump. Fucking duh.

      Now, please refer to my comment immediately above this, and leave the world. Make the Earth a slightly better place.

  31. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

    Measles outbreak in Ontario grows to more than 140 cases

    A measles outbreak in Canada is obviously Trump and MAGA's fault and not the fact that a certain lunatic Prime Minster imported over a million unvaxed third worlders last year.

    Of course Texas never sees a lot of illegals so they don't even have that excuse.

    1. Idaho-Bob   3 months ago

      I read just last night that the Texas outbreak started with the vaccinated. 146 cases and only 79 unvaccinated.

      100% safe and effective.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

        "100% safe and effective."

        The vaccine or the narrative?

      2. Quicktown Brix   3 months ago

        146 cases and only 79 unvaccinated

        Is this somehow surprising?

    2. A Thinking Mind   3 months ago

      It's not a coincidence this happened right after RFK got approved. He should be ashamed.

    3. Knutsack   3 months ago

      Ron Bailey article coming to blame it on RFK Jr.

    4. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

      Vance is definitely wrong.

  32. Longtobefree   3 months ago

    " . . . it bears repeating that mass firings are not meritocracy . . . "

    Well, Liz, here's something only everyone else on the planet knows; Reducing the total headcount at an agency is done without regard to performance. So your statement is true, but irrelevant to performance merit.
    Sort of like "immigrant" does not describe illegal border crossing.

  33. Marshal   3 months ago

    Mass Firings Aren't Meritocracy

    Correct, it's right-sizing. That's the difference between a layoff and a firing. While you use the term firings the NYT article linked correctly refers to them as layoffs.

    There are many appropriate goals in management. It seems very odd some people think every decision has to meet one specific goal. It seems to me this the danger of commentary by people who don't understand what they are commenting on, which is further demonstrated by not understanding there is a difference between these terms.

    1. KAW   3 months ago

      Not truly a layoff. A layoff would be done using established Reduction-In-Force procedures. People being let go now will have it on their permanent record that they were fired for performance issues, not at all the case for most. Most have done fine at their jobs, it's just the jobs are no longer desired. Their records should reflect that.

      1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

        People being let go now will have it on their permanent record that they were fired for performance issues, not at all the case for most.

        True. Probationary hires are being fired "with cause" even though the only thing they did wrong was have the nerve to get hired in the last year. Not only government people, but contractors too.

        1. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

          Sarcjeff should be fired, out of a cannon, roughly in the area of the Mariana Trench, after being stuffed with concrete. With cause: being a worthless, lying, hypocritical sack of human excrement.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

        People being let go now will have it on their permanent record

        Where are these permanent records stored?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

          OPM, actually. It keeps a digital database of all employee files. So if a prob is "removed for cause," the civilian personnel office can pull up their old file if they re-apply, and see that they were "removed for cause," which lowers their chances of consideration.

          The fed departments all have this rack-and-stack system that takes veteran points into account, and whether their resume meets the requirements. If they were a fed employee previously, the department or branch's personnel office can pull up their old files and use those to move someone futher up or down the chain of consideration.

          Generally, unless it's a direct hire situation, the org doing the hiring gets an initial stack of 3-5 resumes to consider, then another 3-5 and on down the line if those candidates don't seem to be a good fit. Sometimes they stop at the second rack and re-advertise if those first two sets of resumes sucked, to try and see if they can get another set of applicants to pick from.

          Regardless, bottom line is that OPM keeps all those records permanently. I don't believe there's a time frame where they have to divest them as part of a records management plan.

      3. Marshal   3 months ago

        People being let go now will have it on their permanent record that they were fired for performance issues,

        This is nonsense, but as usual left wingers assert whatever supports their desired conclusion completely without regard to whether it is actually true.

        A layoff would be done using established Reduction-In-Force procedures.

        Bullshit. Some layoffs are required by circumstance to follow RIF laws, others are not. Not following those procedures does not preclude it from being a layoff.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

          See my post above. If their last SF 50 says "removed for cause," that doesn't mean shit about being laid off. That designation says they fucked up on something and were fired.

          The tranny psychos that Tulsi fired for fucking around on government chat rooms talking about their sexual fetishes deserved that designation. Some rando park ranger in his first year is a completely different matter. This is a case where Elon's doing the Twitter playbook "one size fits all" type of action that ends up getting walked back later on, rather than letting the departments handle the release paperwork.

          1. Marshal   3 months ago

            If their last SF 50 says "removed for cause,"

            I'm not sure what you think this means, the "if" is carrying the load. DOES IT ACTUALLY SAY THIS OR NOT? I'm not interested in your description of the process or what would be happening if things were different. I'm interested in what is actually happening.

            I don't think they should be coded as termed for cause, in the business world this would absolutely not be the case. It seems to me if these people were actually being coded as termed for cause the NYT article would not refer to layoffs, or if the "cause" in this context is broad enough to include layoffs this in turn would mean the damaging impact of the designation would not exist or at least be vastly lessened.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

              I'm not sure what you think this means, the "if" is carrying the load. DOES IT ACTUALLY SAY THIS OR NOT?

              The "if" isn't carrying any fucking load at all.

              YES, IN THE EVENT IT FUCKING DOES, THAT'S WHAT IT FUCKING MEANS.

              What exactly do you think "removed for cause" means?

              1. Marshal   3 months ago

                YES, IN THE EVENT IT FUCKING DOES, THAT'S WHAT IT FUCKING MEANS.

                Again you're assuming instead of asserting. So I'm taking from this that you don't know whether their files are coded as "removed for cause" which makes your entire comment irrelevant. I don't think they should be in this circumstance and I don't think they are, so any comment that assumes something is happening that is in reality not actually happening has no impact on anything.

          2. sarcasmic   3 months ago

            I know people who did nothing wrong but have been fired "for cause" from the naval shipyard because they hadn't worked there long enough. My guess is that probationary workers couldn't be fired without cause, so Elon say to fire them for an unidentified cause.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

              Were they cheered up when you showed them your comments here?

              How about when you cooked them a steak?

              1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

                Sarc’s buddies aren’t going to be able to afford renting the half million dollar lakehouse this summer.

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

                  Is that where they all cleaned guns together or something?

                  1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

                    Yes, although sarc doesn’t like touching guns.

                    1. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

                      Apparently he's not a "good shot".

            2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

              Did you get fired “for cause” when you burned the guy’s steak?

              1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

                Yes. He also got divorced for cause for feeding his wife horse meat because she loves horses.

                Oh wait, he just fantasized about that.

      4. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

        People being let go now will have it on their permanent record that they were fired for performance issues, not at all the case for most.

        Says who? It's all been very clear, department's probationary employees are being down-sized. That's not "fired for performance issues".

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

      But how can a government employee be unnecessary?

  34. KAW   3 months ago

    "It's odd that the Trump administration hasn't pursued more structural change or pressured Congress to make that happen—not only to ensure they have the legal authority to make the workforce changes they seek, but also to guarantee these positive changes stick around for years to come." - It's not odd, or surprising, at all. This administration and it's lackey's in Congress are too lazy and stupid to do the real work required to make meaningful and lasting changes. I'm glad you seem to be coming around to realizing this whole DOGE exercise to date has been a counter-productive waste, creating more problems than solving. And the courts are just beginning to weigh in on the illegality of it all.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

      The problem is that there was no "meaningful and lasting change" in any previous iteration. The government just grew its mission creep or outsourced it to contractors, which was just doing the same work with the same money in a different suit.

      This creative destruction is happening specifically because "meaningful and lasting change" wasn't possible without using a sledgehammer, or in this case, a chainsaw. It's going to be the equivalent of an elimination diet like carnivore where you whack out nearly everything except red meat and butter, and then re-introduce foods back in to determine what your body can handle and what it can't. Don't blame Elon or Trump for taking it to this stage, because 1) it's the fault of previous "small government conservatives" for failing to create any of that change in the first place, and 2) it wouldn't even be going on if your side hadn't pulled a color revolution and rigged the 2020 election with your reindeer games. Trump would already be out of office and probably wouldn't have done shit in the last four years on this because Elon didn't even take over Twitter until 2022.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

      Fuck off and die, TDS-addled slimy pile of shit.

    3. I, Woodchipper   3 months ago

      creating more problems than solving

      I havent seen a single problem created by this effort. Can you list some of them? (no, people complaining or filing court cases doesnt count)

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   3 months ago

        The guy that had the keys took them with him when he left and no one could use the bathroom.

  35. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    So, That's Why We Know So Little About Trump's Assassin
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2025/02/28/the-fbi-is-also-reportedly-interfering-in-another-investigation-n2652984

    Well, there seems to be a reason why Crooks has evaporated into the ether: the FBI is allegedly suppressing all information about the Trump assassin, which reportedly contains a possible lead on an accomplice.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

      Same shit as what happened with the Vegas shooter--a whole bunch of his background goes radio silent, leading to the probability that the FBI or CIA groomed both to do what they did.

      The fact that a Zoomer incel like Crooks had no social media footprint whatsoever was the biggest tell that someone in the Deep State tried to whack him.

  36. I, Woodchipper   3 months ago

    An office within the Department of Labor tasked with enforcing equal employment opportunity laws is cutting staff by 90 percent,

    It should be 100% but this is still so great, I cant tell you how happy this makes me.

  37. I, Woodchipper   3 months ago

    But the way DOGE has handled these firings probably isn't the right means of getting to meritocracy, unfortunately

    Who cares about meritocracy, we're talking about government employees. Just get rid of as many as possible and it's a good thing.

  38. Thoritsu   3 months ago

    No Liz, but they ARE reductions of Government. Lasting, real, annual reductions of Government. Every 5-10 people is $1M/yr.

    Fire, fire, fire!

    1. Eeyore   3 months ago

      That is only 2 Faucis.

  39. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

    "Mass Firings Aren't Meritocracy"

    You haven't been to the DMV recently.

  40. MWAocdoc   3 months ago

    Although mass firings may not be "meritocracy" what if I don't want a meritocracy either? What I want is a much smaller, less expensive less powerful federal government with much less scope. I don't care how the Executive branch achieves this. The government grew to ten times the size it should have been illegally and unconstitutionally and the President has my blessing to fire ninety percent of the Federal employees legally OR illegally. The judges long ago abandoned any pretense of constitution-based rulings so the President can also ignore them too as far as I am concerned.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   3 months ago

      You Nazi!

      (They dramatically cut government, right?)

  41. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

    The government made a big thing about pursuing transparency, but there's been no such thing. They most likely have far more than 200 pages worth of information on Epstein's associates; why was such a big deal made of this release, when they're clearly withholding?

    It sure seems like they're trying but the rank and file are resisting at every turn...

    Dear Director Patel:

    Before you came into office, I requested the full and complete files related to Jeffrey Epstein. In response to this request, I received approximately 200 pages of documents, which consisted primarily of flight logs, Epstein's list of contacts and a list of victims' names and phone numbers. I repeatedly questioned whether this was the full set of documents responsive to my request and was repeatedly assured by the FBI that we had received the full set of documents," Bondi wrote in her Thursday letter to Patel. "Late yesterday, I learned from a source that the FBI Field Office inNew York was in possession of thousands of pages of documents related to the investigation and indictment of Epstein."

    "Despite my repeated requests, the FBI never disclosed the existence of these files. When you and I spoke yesterday, you were just as surprised as I was to learn this new information," she continued. "By 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, Feb. 28, the FBI will deliver the full and complete Epstein files to my office — including all records, documents, audio and video recordings, and materials related to Jeffrey Epstein and his clients, regardless of how such information was obtained. There will be no withholdings or limitations to my or your access."

  42. Michael Ejercito   3 months ago

    Some people really think bureaucrats within the Executive branch are a check on the presidency.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/moderatepolitics/comments/1iv9bzt/comment/me9wy9l/

    They kind of are, tho. Beauracrats have absolutely stood up against dumbass presidential decisions before, and loudly opposed them. Sure, they often were replaced afterward, or resigned, but the mere act of doing so highlighted how out of the norm the President’s actions were. Like with Nixon and his Saturday Night Massacre, or the Chief of Staffs refusing Trump’s orders in 2020 to deploy military forces to cities during the BLM protests. Like, could you ever imagine James Comey agreeing to do smth blatantly illegal against US citizens when he was FBI Chief under Obama? He wouldn’t be able to wait to expose the President for doing smth awful! These agencies should be non partisan, bc it’s terrifying to imagine a scenario where they’re 100% loyal to a president, to the point where they’d follow any order, no matter what it was.

    1. Mickey Rat   3 months ago

      And how exactly do you make them non-partisan? Where do you get millions of people to fill these jobs who are all politically undecided?

      And we'll, if all truly important decisions in government policy are made by the allegedly non-partisan bureaucracy, are not the trappings of a constitutional democratic republic mere window dressing then?

      1. Marshal   3 months ago

        There are plenty of people in the world capable of separating politics from their workplace. Unfortunately government agencies specifically cleansed that from their culture as they became a voting constituency for Dems. But it can be recovered by:

        (1) firing the people who have proven through their actions they are willing to weaponize government to serve their politics,
        (2) replace them with people who understand the new program,
        (3) Clean out management that has been promoted into these positions based on political reliability and replace them with people committed to keeping politics out.
        (4) constantly measure compliance.

        1. Jefferson Paul   3 months ago

          You fascist!

    2. sarcasmic   3 months ago

      These agencies should be non partisan, bc it’s terrifying to imagine a scenario where they’re 100% loyal to a president, to the point where they’d follow any order, no matter what it was.

      The purpose of DOGE is to create exactly that. Just watch. These massive firings are going to be followed by some massive hirings with all new applicants being required to pass a loyalty test. Vance said it himself.

      1. Marshal   3 months ago

        The purpose of DOGE is to create exactly that.

        The most amusing aspect of this is that we've been living under this type of government for decades. We know this because we watched left wingers illegally weaponize the government against Trump and anyone non-left. Obviously this includes the Russian Collusion Hoax was supported by FBI and JD officials, but also FEMA refusing support to Trump voters and going back to Shirley Sherrod's racist operation at the USDA. This is in addition to other actions like refusing to investigate Biden's pay-to-play corruption operation with Hunter.

        But only now that we're removing a partisan-left government does sarc admit partisan government is a threat. Someone whose standards of what is acceptable vs not is so completely ties to which party is engaging in it is no libertarian.

        1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

          Shorter Marshal: Democrats did it first so it's ok, and anyone who says anything about it is a hypocrite because they weren't angry when Democrats did it. Which makes it doubly-ok.

          1. Marshal   3 months ago

            Again notice the idiotic framing: that ending a weaponized government for Dems must lead to a weaponized government for Reps. In his attacks he doesn't even accept an unweaponized government is a possibility which is absurd given that's what he claims to want in other contexts. But whatever he needs to be true to justify an attack he claims to believe.

            This is dishonest hackery.

            1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

              Maybe Congress should take some of these powers away from the executive (repeal laws) in order to limit how it can be weaponized. Ever think of that? Of course not. Because for you this is sweet, sweet revenge. It's time to make the other side suffer until they're in power again, then the roles reverse.

              1. Marshal   3 months ago

                Since my obvious goal is non-weaponized government this is a stupid assertion, keeping your perfect steak of stupid assertions intact.

                Of course we should also note you again show no problem putting words in others' mouths even though you whine that others do it to you. Principles are for other people, right?

                1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

                  Since my obvious goal is non-weaponized government

                  You never said anything of the sort. All you've done is defend Republicans and accuse me of lying. Based upon that I'm going to say you're lying right now. Prove you're not lying.

                  1. Marshal   3 months ago

                    You never said anything of the sort.

                    I have always criticized weaponized government. Only you have assumed that opposition to Dem-weaponized government means support for Rep-weaponized government. You believe this because you're not here to understand and comment but rather to attack. So you lie about others' positions to justify those attacks.

                    Prove you're not lying.

                    Marshal 53 minutes ago
                    There are plenty of people in the world capable of separating politics from their workplace. Unfortunately government agencies specifically cleansed that from their culture as they became a voting constituency for Dems. But it can be recovered by:

                    (1) firing the people who have proven through their actions they are willing to weaponize government to serve their politics,
                    (2) replace them with people who understand the new program,
                    (3) Clean out management that has been promoted into these positions based on political reliability and replace them with people committed to keeping politics out.
                    (4) constantly measure compliance.

                    The truth is that you're a combination of an idiot and an asshole where the exact mixture doesn't much matter.

                    1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

                      I don't see anything there about taking powers away so government is not worth weaponizing. Just blah blah blah let's hire new Soviet men who have no self interest and won't use power for their own benefit blah blah blah. Nope. Not good enough.

                    2. VinniUSMC   3 months ago

                      The truth is that you're a combination of an idiot and an asshole where the exact mixture doesn't much matter.

                      Perfect description of sarcjeff.

                    3. Marshal   3 months ago

                      I don't see anything there about taking powers away so government is not worth weaponizing

                      Interesting. So now if I haven't announced support for exactly your solution I must oppose it? It's pretty funny the stupid shit you'll say to keep your pretense alive.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

                      Hey, if you’re not exactly for what Sarc wants, you’re against him, and therefore subject to muting.

              2. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

                Congress should take some of these powers away from the executive (repeal laws)

                What did your congressmen say when you asked them to do so?

          2. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

            This might make sense if it was actually happening now and not just some bullshit you've made up because of your TDS.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

            What hilariously low expectations you have.

            1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

              What's even more hilarious is that you think I made a statement about expectations.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

                Well, "We know the Democrats are going to do this, so the Republicans shouldn't, but I know the Democrats aren't going to change their behavior so whatevs" is a pretty straightforward indication of that.

                1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

                  I didn't say anything about should or shouldn't in what you're replying to. Marshal just put those words into my mouth so he could argue against them. I think there's a word for that.

                  The comment where I do say "should" suggests taking powers from the executive so neither party can weaponize them.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

                    And this isn’t puting words in Marshal’s mouth, twit?

                    Shorter Marshal: Democrats did it first so it's ok, and anyone who says anything about it is a hypocrite because they weren't angry when Democrats did it. Which makes it doubly-ok.

                    You go and create a strawman and a false equivalency (two of your favorites) to make a backhanded insult that’s borderline ad hominem argument, smug dipshit.

                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

                      It's ok when sarcjeff does it.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   3 months ago

      Uhhh, Comey DID do something blatantly illegal while under Obama....

  43. lwt1960   3 months ago

    Mass firings...agree in principle, but with the filibuster there's no hope for meaningful legislation to reform the relationship with the unions, so you do what you can. One more reason less gov't is the only answer, as seniority is never the best selection method and only applies in congress and unions, hardly exemplars of high performance.

    Unemployment- well, duh...what were you expecting?

    Epstein- yep, that will bring down inflation. Spend your political capital on performative nonsense. Find the bad guys, lock them up and move on. The public witchhunt serves nobody's interest, other than the accused, who will likely argue they were denied their right to an impartial jury of their peers.

    1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

      "so you do what you can"
      But they can't. These firings are illegal RIFs.

      1. I, Woodchipper   3 months ago

        your love of leviathan is impressive.

        1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

          I am not the one with orange lips.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

            You're the one with shit on your tongue, ass-licker.

  44. Truthteller1   3 months ago

    Yeah you're right Liz, let's just leave everything the way it has been for the last 50 years because everything is fine. Long live the regime.

    1. Eeyore   3 months ago

      Some Libertarians won't even vote Libertarian, because the "perfect" candidate hasn't come around yet. Sometimes I think Libertarians have a perfectionist instinct that can get in the way of accomplishing anything.

      1. sarcasmic   3 months ago

        Lower-case libertarians are people with a political philosophy. Upper-case Libertarians are a political party.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

          Small l, Big L, doesn't matter. You didn't even vote for Chase, so you hate gays, sarc.

          1. Don’t get eliminated   3 months ago

            Wait, Chase is gay?

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

              Apparently gay enough that Sarc didn’t even care enough to het registered to vote for him.

            2. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

              You mean you missed all the times Jeff called him a "fag"?

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   3 months ago

                It's ok when sarcjeff does it.

  45. TJJ2000   3 months ago

    The bloat gets cut and all the ?Libertarian? magazine wants to do is fuss.

  46. Mickey Rat   3 months ago

    Are the primary point of what DOGE is recommending establishing meritocracy in the federal bureaucracy or budget savings? Especially given the limited authority to remove specific unproductive employees?

  47. Ra's al Gore   3 months ago

    https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/02/28/biden-aide-gives-him-up-they-were-hiding-so-much-n2409108

    A senior aide for former President Joe Biden has admitted the administration was “gaslighting” Americans when it repeatedly dismissed growing concerns about the oldest-ever president’s age and ability.

    Michael LaRosa, a former White House aide and longtime press secretary for first lady Jill Biden, admitted that the campaign was aware from “day one” that the 81-year-old’s age was an issue — and aides were “scared to death” of letting him do off-the-cuff interviews ahead of the election,

  48. MWAocdoc   3 months ago

    Just Asking Questions

    One of the reasons I detest podcasts and rarely try to listen to them is that most of what is said comes out as stream-of-consciousness gibberish. The transcribed quotation about "building resilience" above is a perfect example of what happens when people who have zero experience with public speaking and no training in thinking on their feet try to explain something in a question and answer session.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   3 months ago

      That's an issue with Rogan's podcast, too. A lot of those are over 2 hours long, and you can't fill up that much time with substantive discussion, for the most part. A lot of it is just going to be off-the-cuff kinds of things.

      Even the Mike Benz podcasts, which were remarkably focused for 3-hour sessions because Benz knows this stuff backwards and forwards, had hilariously random questions from Rogan like whether the CIA actually sponsored gangster rap.

  49. SIV   3 months ago

    The newest fedgov angels, stripped of their wings and cast out of Heaven, can reapply as new positions open behind the pearly gates.

  50. TrickyVic (old school)   3 months ago

    Remember kids, it's disinformation to believe the truth. (Reason #2 why the dems lost).

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ex-biden-staffer-campaign-was-gaslighting-public-with-denial-of-age-ability-concerns/ar-AA1zZVWt?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=a6d2531210fe4fb6b145126c78f27905&ei=47

    1. Lester75   3 months ago

      Wait! That's MSN so it has to be lies, right?

      Here's what we should cut and/or streamline:

      https://usafacts.org/articles/which-government-programs-are-considered-wasteful-or-inefficient/

      1. Truthfulness   3 months ago

        You don't get it. When MSN admits that something was wrong with Biden, that's really saying something. You can't just dismiss it as coming from alternative media.

        https://doge.gov/

        ^ The receipts of government waste are in that site. You do not believe in reducing government.

  51. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 months ago

    The dol was the company that forced the jab. Execute all of them

    1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

      Spoken like a true fascist.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

        Posted like a true, brain-dead lying lefty shit.

        1. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

          No, Tony's an actual fascist, as opposed to the people he tries to smear with the label.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

        So getting rid of government officials is fascism? Fascinating.

        1. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

          Remember how the Nazis shrunk government and were anti-war?

      3. Mike Parsons   3 months ago

        "getting rid of overbearing govt agents (that I like) is fascism"

        projection much?

      4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   3 months ago

        Yep executing the nazis that committed crimes against humanity after the Nuremberg trials was facism

        1. Jefferson Paul   3 months ago

          Wait, the Nuremberg trials was just the West weaponizing government to go after their political opponents!

          --sarc's logic applied to the Nuremberg trials.

  52. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

    Trump and Musk do not care abut merit. They never have. It is absurd that anyone would believe that they do.

    1. I, Woodchipper   3 months ago

      The CEO of Tesla and SpaceX does not care about merit.

      Brilliant

      1. MollyGodiva   3 months ago

        My comments are in relation to the government.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   3 months ago

          Your comments are lies or worthless assertions. Fuck off and die, asshole.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   3 months ago

          Your comments are retarded.

        3. Mother's Lament - Buttplug = Neocons (same motive)   3 months ago

          Maybe you want to point out the merit in government for us, Tony.

    2. Incunabulum   3 months ago

      They're practicing *equity*.

      Its what you wanted, right?

  53. mad.casual   3 months ago

    DON'T DIE comes to Calabasas

    Holy Hell! LOL! Bryan Johnson, at 47, looks worse than Christopher Walken, at 50, more than 30 yrs. ago.

  54. Dillinger   3 months ago

    >>it bears repeating that mass firings are not meritocracy

    when you get all certainy from your perch you miss points like mass firings may very well be meritocratic dependent on circumstance

  55. BillyG   3 months ago

    Start by asking if the work they're doing is needed. ONLY if the answer is Yes do you start talking merit. If you don't need the job doe in the first place, I don't care who's dong the job, the person holding it is going out the door.

  56. Uncle Jay   3 months ago

    Draining the DC swamp has its price, and that price is reducing the number of federal employees that are not necessary.
    Next up, eliminating the expensive, useless and onerous bureaucracies that are not needed, much to the chagrin of the socialist slaving cheerleaders.

  57. Dillinger   3 months ago

    Huberman better have naked stories if he's gonna waste my podcast time with the Kards

  58. mad.casual   3 months ago

    who posed for a distasteful photo op with them
    [click]
    Holding the binder like it’s a trophy. The binder is a testament to the precious lives tortured and sacrificed. Think about how their families must feel seeing this.

    Uh... fine? Bill Clinton got a BJ in the Whitehouse and nobody in his family batted an eye. Hunter Biden got a stripper pregnant while cheating on his dead brother's widow and hid from alimony under his name at their house and by-and-large no one said a word. As you yourself indicate, Trump's flights are logged in there and it's, supposedly, a nothingburger otherwise. And this doesn't even get into the actual and completely tangential lives explicitly ruined with regard to the fishing expedition that was Russiagate.

    So exactly how is it any more distasteful or disrespectful or shameful to the families than posing with The Declaration of Independence or the 9/11 Commission's Report? Isn't it far more shameful that we *know* minors were being trafficked to an island and that the owner of the island (didn't) hang himself in federal custody rather than testify?

  59. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

    Pam Bondi explodes at FBI over missing Epstein files as hundreds of pages blacked out

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pam-bondi-explodes-at-fbi-over-missing-epstein-files-as-hundreds-of-pages-blacked-out/ar-AA1zWxlP

  60. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

    CNN interviewed a young woman who claims to have voted for Trump, but who now regrets it because she got fired from her government job.

    In a twist of irony, she says she voted for Trump because she says he promised to give her free shit (in this case his claims to make IVF free). She became a single-issue voter and her issues was "Which candidate promised me the free shit I want?"

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/fired-federal-worker-who-voted-for-trump-speaks-out/vi-AA1zXqow

    1. mad.casual   3 months ago

      she voted for Trump because she says he promised to give her free shit (in this case his claims to make IVF free)

      The only thing worse than childless cat ladies; childless cat single mothers.

      When I first read "You are not voting for Biden or Trump to be Prom King." my initial reaction was "Holy Shit! People can't be so dumb as to need to hear this.", then I realized it was probably speaking to a bubble that I hadn't encountered or knowingly interacted with. Now I know for a fact that the "Prom King Vote" bubble exists.

  61. Dillinger   3 months ago

    hey thanks as always for the forum love you guys have a great weekend

  62. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

    Bee: Republicans Clarify That Deficit Spending Only A Problem When Democrats Do It

    https://babylonbee.com/news/republicans-clarify-that-deficit-spending-only-a-problem-when-democrats-do-it

    Soon after presenting a new spending bill that adds billions of dollars to the federal deficit, Republicans helpfully explained to constituents that deficit spending is only bad when Democrats do it.

    "We know you all don't like deficit spending, but this is totally different," said House Speaker Mike Johnson in a press conference. "This is Republican deficit spending. You see, it's different because Republicans are doing it, which is good."

    "We hope that helps clear up all the confusion."

    Experts who fact-checked the Speaker's claim have admitted that Republicans are now the ones who are overspending, which is indeed different than when the Democrats do the overspending. "His logic is unassailable," said a source within the Congressional Budget Office.

    Republicans also confirmed that the funding of Planned Parenthood in their bill was actually Republican funding of Planned Parenthood, and that the overspending on defense and entitlements in their bill was actually Republican overspending on defense and entitlements. "See? It's much better when we're the ones doing this," explained Speaker Johnson.

    At publishing time, Republicans had assured nervous Americans that the job of bankrupting the country would be handed back over to the Democrats in 2 years.

  63. Medulla Oblongata   3 months ago

    Also Bee:

    Purchasing congresspeople has never been easier for lobbyists!

    To make purchasing congresspeople easier and faster for lobbyists, congresspeople will now have barcodes printed on their foreheads to be conveniently scanned at newly installed self-checkout machines.

    Bill: On the printing of forehead barcodes for efficient purchase of government officials

    https://youtu.be/PokG301G02c

  64. XM   3 months ago

    If Elon Musk mass fired government horse buggy drivers, whether they were good at their jobs or not would be irrelevant.

    Why does meritocracy enter the picture here? We laugh at Japan for still using floppy disks, fax machines, and tons of paperwork for even trivial transactions. Think of the sheer amount of people Elon would fire in that government culture. It wouldn't matter if you were the best stamper of documents, it's an antiquated practice in the modern world.

    Is Reason's passive aggressiveness on DOGE owing just to their concerns on constitutional authority? Rule of law? Because I don't remember them objecting to the borders being wide open for 4 years. Their response to DACA was "yes, its probably illegal, but it HAS to be done!"

  65. Incunabulum   3 months ago

    >Firings Aren't Meritocracy

    Of course they aren't. These people didn't want meritocracy. They wanted equity.

    So . . . this is equity. All of them, no matter where they started from, no matter their contributions, ended up with the same outcome - fired.

  66. Kevin Carson   3 months ago

    LOL. Hilarious to see Reason's most toxic Trump sycophant wind up being accused of "TDS" by the usual shitstains.

    1. Truthfulness   3 months ago

      The TDS label is warranted when the criticism of Trump has no merit. Perhaps maybe, just maybe, you could consider that to be the case? You seem incapable of opening your brain to that thought.

  67. CE   3 months ago

    Libertarians for Smaller Government But Not That Fast?

    Mass firings aren't a meritocracy, but they're a good start.

  68. Ama Valde Intellectum   3 months ago

    the headline stronglly states something indecipherable so I will just say my piece : The firings are 3 things for sure
    1) even if random they'd be no more random than say Sam Brinton, criminal and pervert, getting a top job or Rachel Levine, widely hated by the military, getting a job precisely because 'he' was sick in the head.
    2) Unless this is done the government will bloat to natural death, who doubts it!! you yourself evidenlty don't.
    3) You mis-reason the same way you did in the term limits issue: You expect the very folks who re-elected fossil Diane Feinstein to vote to keep all ancient politicians out of office EXCEPT their own pet fossil.

    That is what is wrong with much of your writing: You make an abstract point that no one will follow in practice because people always prefer their man/woman as the exception. There are many surverys that show this is the case.

  69. jagjr   3 months ago

    "The government made a big thing about pursuing transparency, but there's been no such thing. They most likely have far more than 200 pages worth of information on Epstein's associates; why was such a big deal made of this release, when they're clearly withholding?"

    why are you surprised?? have you ever watched a stage magician?? it's what they do - look over here so you won't see me doing the trick. it's what Obama did. it's what Biden did. it's what Trump does.

    1. Truthfulness   3 months ago

      None of this is on the Trump administration, dimwit. The FBI is too scared to do their part.

  70. Liberty Yeti   3 months ago

    100 years of hackarama and unaccountable bureaucrats aren't meritocracy, either.

    If you're a libertarian publication then you should be elated that DOGE is the biggest bazooka anyone's pointed and fired at the corrupt, entrenched, antidemocratic administrative state in over a century.

    At least someone finally did SOMETHING. Maybe not a perfect thing, but almost nothing ever is in this world.

  71. Torguud   3 months ago

    Non-meritocratic mass hiring may not be any better. Reduce the size of government.

  72. HarrietLi   3 months ago

    So far I see that those who have the least rights are being fired. Classic "justice" from the state. Fortunately, this is not the end of the world. You will not end up living on the street because they decided to lay you off. I would have given up on everything for three months and just sat at home with onex bed by.The political storm will subside by summer one way or another. Just take care of your nerves.

    1. Ama Valde Intellectum   3 months ago

      Maybe the least rights ARE the sign they should be fired.
      Pure patronage. You helped me get elected , you know shit all about X, but I will put you in the Dept of X
      You can't be that essential if you are working from home and can't say what you've actually done over the last 2 weeks.
      \Had several family members work in government. Father-in-law, quite famous but won't name him, famously said to his childer NEVER TAKE A GOVERNMENT JOB

  73. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 months ago

    "Mass Firings Aren't Meritocracy"

    Said by someone who has never visited the DMV.

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