Reciprocity Is a Misguided Response to U.S. Economic Strength
We do not need to copy Europe’s bad tax ideas.

A recent push for "reciprocity" in international taxation has gained traction, based on the claim that American companies pay disproportionately high taxes abroad while foreign firms pay far less in the United States. "US firms paid $370 billion abroad in value-added and income taxes," White House economist Kevin Hassett recently noted, "whereas multinational firms operating in the US paid just $57 billion." Some economists have used this point to argue that the U.S. should reciprocate by imposing a higher tax burden to level the playing field.
At first glance, the tax disparity might seem unfair, but in reality, it is a testament to America's economic strength, global competitiveness, and superior regulatory environment. The fact that U.S. firms generate substantial tax revenue abroad is not a sign of weakness—it is proof that America leads the world in business innovation, free enterprise, and economic opportunity.
The magnitude of taxes paid by U.S. companies abroad is a reflection of their global dominance. American firms, particularly in technology, finance, and manufacturing, are at the forefront of global markets. Their ability to generate revenue worldwide results in higher tax obligations in foreign jurisdictions. Meanwhile, foreign companies operating in the U.S. often have a smaller footprint, generating less taxable profit. This discrepancy is not a flaw in the system but a natural consequence of America's economic leadership.
Rather than seeking to impose reciprocal taxation measures—which would amount to mimicking the high-tax policies of other nations—the U.S. should embrace the very advantages that make it an economic powerhouse. The push for reciprocity is, in effect, an argument for adopting the economically restrictive and burdensome policies that have hindered growth in other countries. Nations that impose excessive taxes on U.S. firms do not do so out of strategic brilliance. Their high-tax regimes reflect a defensive, revenue-driven approach to economic policy rather than one based on fostering innovation and growth.
One frequently cited issue in this debate is the prevalence of value-added taxes (VATs) in foreign countries, but VATs are just one of many kinds of taxes that foreign governments impose on U.S. businesses. In addition to VATs, American firms operating abroad face digital service taxes, stringent corporate income tax regimes, and various sector-specific levies designed to extract as much revenue as possible from successful enterprises. These policies are not evidence of fairness or sound governance; they are a sign of economic defeatism. Governments that chose taxation over competitiveness to prop up inefficient domestic industries should not be imitated.
From a limited government perspective, VATs are a recipe for big government. In fact, among European countries that have adopted VATs, government spending as a share of the economy tends to grow by 7 percent to 8 percent on average, bolstering the bloated welfare states of these low-growth nations.
By contrast, the U.S. has long thrived on a system that prioritizes free markets, lower taxes, and a business-friendly regulatory environment. Rather than responding to foreign taxation with new retaliatory measures, the U.S. should continue to champion the policies that have made it the global leader in entrepreneurship and investment. Tax competition—where countries vie to create the most attractive environment for businesses—is not a problem to be solved but a fundamental driver of prosperity.
Calls for reciprocity threaten to undermine this advantage. If the U.S. imposes additional taxes on foreign firms in response to high overseas taxation of American businesses, it would risk triggering a cycle of retaliatory measures. This would harm American exporters, disrupt supply chains, and increase costs for consumers. Instead of adopting the tax-heavy policies of Europe and other regions, the U.S. should allow tax competition to work in its favor, drawing investment and reinforcing its position as the best place in the world to do business.
Rather than looking to emulate the self-defeating tax policies of other nations, the U.S. should double down on what already makes it great: a pro-business environment, competitive tax rates, and regulatory policies that encourage entrepreneurship and growth. The real danger is not that the U.S. is at a disadvantage in taxation but that misguided policies could jeopardize the very economic principles that have made it the most dynamic economy in the world.
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Wasn’t it a popular notion that we should be more like Europe?
They’d really freak out if they knew what European abortion laws are like.
Sadly, it still is. Particularly amongst the so called intelligentsia.
One rule for me, none for thee is not a libertarian or free market stance.
If this forces other countries to become more free market I'm sure you'll write about it.
Tit for tat market response has shown in many simulations and situations to provide the most optimal outcomes.
Oh the
climatetariff models say we should do it! Well I'm sold.Fuck you, you can send more of your money to DC if you want but I'd prefer not.
You've been fine with waste - but now that it might be used for long term benefit you don't want to?
No I'm not fine with waste. Just don't want to pay more taxes to DC. And fuck the models and the elites telling me what is best for me. I work in a steel intensive industry, I know what is best for me and it ain't more taxes.
It is amusing that Republicans recognize that taxes on businesses are just taxes on customers, unless they are tariffs. Tariffs are magic.
It is amusing that Sarc still doesn’t grasp that unilateral, one-sided free trade with countries that tariff your good to hell and back is unsustainable.
I think a big part of the problem is looking at trade as something that happens between countries. Trade happens between individual actors, not governments.
The standard retort to that is that the Chinese government has a stake in many of the companies in the country.
This is not a true concept given government induced regulatory delta that drive much of the domestic price delta.
Government actions drive much of the trade discussion.
Yes, and that's another part of the problem. But the US government can control how it tries to influence or control what Americans can do in terms of trade, not what other countries do. My argument is that Americans should be maximally free to engage in trade as they see fit.
I'll admit that Trumps use of the threats of tariffs to get concessions from other countries has been working better than I expected. So I'm somewhat open to more of that. But in principle I still think that the first aim of the US government should be to allow Americans, as individuals, to trade as freely as possible, whether or not the governments of the trading partners do the same.
The laws and regulations that govern a country are just part of their comparative advantage or disadvantage. If they want to subsidize something and lower the price below what it costs us to produce it, then great! Accept the gift. Don’t punish Americans with tariffs in order prop up our comparative disadvantage.
If have tariffs on our stuff, don’t punish Americans with tariffs.
You refuse to accept that policy is part of, not separate from, comparative advantage and disadvantage.
Yes.
And yet, there are still neanderthals that believe that an imbalance of trade is something to be concerned with. Despite free floating currencies.
It is amusing that democrats like sarc don't realize consumption tax is the most free tax to pay as he defends taxation on income to support welfare for the cost effects of his beliefs.
I have always said that I prefer consumption taxes if that’s the government’s revenue source.
What i disagree with is tariffs based upon economic ignorance.
I have always said that I prefer consumption taxes
Just like how Oceania was "always" at war with Eastasia.
I work in a steel intensive industry, I know what is best for me and it ain't more taxes.
Are you sure you don't want to pay more taxes to benefit the steel workers...and unions and government?
What if we sweeten the deal by saying you go to prison if you don't? Now don't you want to transfer your wealth to the government and to those chosen by the government to benefit at your expense?
Easy way to not send taxes through tariffs. You have a choice not to buy cheap Chinese shit.
Yet as we are taxes more and more for welfare from a declining working population as we offshore jobs and industry, eat the costs of supply chain risk realized, etc... you'll deny the outcome of your policies like sarc and STG.
It is amazing how sophomoric some of you are. Taxes for welfare from outsourcing jobs fine, taxes for choosing to buy from a country who puts tariffs on our exports end of the world.
Do you even know what your actual belief system is? It seems disjointed.
Oh the
climatetariff models say we should do it! Well I'm sold.Do you confuse climate models with bikini models too?
The climate modelling is the exact inverse of Jesse's model. It implicitly assumes and enforces the optimal outcome to the moral model set up by The Prisoner's Dilemma.
Here's a model (not the bikini or the climate kind) to help you: Imagine a town that has 194 different bars. Every last bar has a door fee or drink minimum. One bar, looks at the average door fee in town, realizes they're among the lowest, that they struggle to pay their bills, keep promises to their employees, and keep out the riffraff... and decides they'll match the door fee of whatever other bar patrons were coming from or going to. And you're sitting here trying to say "That
climateprofit model can't work!"... like a retard... despite the fact that there are 193 other bars operating on the same or worse models already.I feel like that analogy fails in some places. Are these other countries with higher taxes on foreign corporations doing much better than the US at paying their bills and keeping the lights on? Maybe the bar would do even better, getting more casual walk-in customers if it canned the door fee altogether.
I feel like that analogy fails in some places.
"All models are wrong, some are useful." G.E.P. Box
Point being, the climate models are statistical, not behavioral. Inasmuch as they are behavioral, they specifically unify and globalize to the implicit aim of impoverishing humanity materially and/or fiscally from the top down equally. The 'tariff model' and/or the 'no door fee model' don't explicitly aim or impose a top down command and, rather the opposite, expect a degree of individual reciprocity or haggling.
Sure, it would be great to eliminate the door fee altogether, but if you eliminate the door fee and it doesn't change the foot traffic one bit, you're just passing up profit. Arguably even handing it over to your competition.
There's a valid question of whether the bar or any bar is owned in such a fashion as to be able to take profit like that but that pushes back against a different conceptualization or model more akin to the bad aspects of a/the "climate model". More clearly, you and I may agree that a 'no door fee model' may be more profitable for our favorite while still recognizing that imposing a/the 'no door fee' model on the other 193 other bars may be neither moral nor viable.
You're misunderstanding the game theory implications of economics zeb.
First part of game theory iinvolves actuons without knowledge. Both prisoners should remain quiet.
The second part of game theory is with knowledge, prisoner a knows prisoner b will sqeel, so his optimal path is to also squeel.
In economics, knowing you're dealing with a bad market actor like China, ignoring their bad acts knowingly leads to a less optimal market exchange. This is why tit for tat algorithms dominate almost every algorithmic economics competition and have for decades. Because you're arguing for a system of ignoring what you know.
Letting bad actors act in a market disadvantages those who dont if you make it so no response can be had.
China currently assumes a higher cost on domestic undisturbed through theft and other market actions that the totality all current or proposed tariffs. The supply chain risk realized during covid was also more expensive than any assumed or proposed tariffs.
These are all realized costs. And I haven't even gotten to the labor/welfare issue.
It remains amazing to me how some happily assume and accept these costs whole screaming about a smaller cost intended to reduce the accepted costs.
I'll admit the tit for tat game theory stuff is working better than I anticipated. So I'll hope that it works out for the best and try to keep an open mind.
Game theory is politics, not economics.
If you concede that tariffs are terrible economics, I’ll concede that they might possibly be good politics.
Lol, what? I don't want to send my money to DC, because I'd prefer to do something productive with my money. Any model that tells me that I'm better off sending my money to DC is full of shit. If we just tax carbon, if we just tax imports; utopia will follow... is a scam.
Then don't buy shitty Chinese crap.
Stop making me pay for excess welfare spending and increased domestic costs due to offshoring and theft.
Fuck your ignorance.
How do all you bumper sticker economists not understand the concept of supply shift. It is fucking amazing.
Then don't buy shitty Chinese crap.
It really is getting to the point of "Why won't you let me keep the trade-regulatory state that I want to favor China?"
And given the whole USAID disclosure, the censorship of social media in 2020, and the known fact that China has agents stealing technology and censoring it's own and other people abroad, it really is kinda disgusting.
It's a lot like Reason's open borders retardation where they refuse to even acknowledge cutting the welfare state and are effectively just advocating for handouts of US taxpayer dollars to illegal immigrants/without borders.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Trump isn't some 12D chess master. He's a decent checkers player. He knows you've got to cut regulations if you're even hoping of bringing trade into parity. It's just that his opposition struggles with "OMG! MUH TARIFFS (WHICH HAVE BEEN A PART OF ECONOMEEZ FOR OVER 1000 YRS) DON"T WERK!"
"Then don't buy shitty Chinese crap."
Are you old enough to remember when we said the same things about Japanese products? What started as seriously low quality ended up being some of the best world wide. We laughed in the beginning but the laugh turned out to be on us eventually.
And, look how that worked out.
(Full disclosure: I hate the cheap shit, knock off Chinese crap that's shown up everywhere from Amazon to Home Depot to Nordstroms. But, I find myself buying because I'm offered no other choice if I wish to buy.)
Any model that tells me that I'm better off sending my money to DC is full of shit.
You don't have to send your money to DC. Find a foreign producer whose government doesn't tariff US goods going the opposite direction effectively making the tariff reciprocity/parity the exact amount you desire. Otherwise, find a domestic producer and send your money to them rendering the whole international shipping argument moot. Find a domestic producer of a competitive product or material to the same effect. If you can't find any one of those many options, become a domestic producer and people who share your mentality will send you money. If not enough people domestically send you money to stay in business, maybe people don't share your mentality.
This is distinctly unlike carbon whereby you get taxed for carbon no matter where you go or what country you're declaring to be from. There are no reciprocal carbon-tax-free agreements baked into the climate model.
Just because you retardedly believe Reason "The Jones Act should be repealed and the US should adopt cabotage laws like the EUs" Magazine... Reason "Borders are, like an abstract social construct, man." Magaine's "tariff = tax" idiocy doesn't mean everyone else does.
What an intelligent and thoughfull response.
It is fine to keep rewarding bad market actors as long as they are foreigners as you incorrectly scream free market.
Sophomoric thinking like yours has been working for decades after all. All those false free trade agreements that are anything but.
Lol.
I don't care about foreigners jackass. I care about steel going over $1 per lbs again, asshole. After Cares Act and Biden Inflation bs, I don't know if my company will survive this. This isn't some bs expirement for me. But keep sucking union steel dick though. They are the reason they lost their market; not me.
Sorry. That sucks.
Again, unilateral free trade is better than tariffs, bilateral free trade is better that both.
And you can use tariffs to push the latter instead of accepting the former. Short term pain for long term gain.
Calls for reciprocity threaten to undermine this advantage
Only if you assume the other party (the EU) will never change.
And if they don't, then the question is obvious:
Are you for making money, or are you for the genuine free market?
Businesses love tariffs and for good reason. It means they can raise prices without competing. They make money and employ people. It’s a win with no cost, right?
Wrong. Those concentrated benefits come at the expense of millions of consumers who pay higher prices, and there’s the opportunity cost of protecting businesses that are a comparative disadvantage instead of doing things where we have a comparative advantage.
This is Jesse’s cue to tell us that the founding principle of economics is for simple minds, and the entire field of economics is wrong because it’s all based on that principle.
This is not only falsified by any collection of data but such a misunderstanding of economoc variables as to be frankly retarded.
Congrats buddy. You are incapable of learning.
If this truly occurred you'd be able yo gind the 1 to 1 price increases to tariff correlation.
You're a fucking moron sarc.
You kicked that strawman’s ass.
Nuh-uh; the writer states quite clearly that the only possible response of Europe is that "it would risk triggering a cycle of retaliatory measures." Not even considering any other possible reaction.
Can't have risk. Shut up and settle for the status quo of goose-stepping towards social *and* economic totalitarianism.
Unilateral free trade is economic totalitarianism, while a system of tariffs and subsidies to prop up industries that can’t compete is freedom.
*facepalm*
Your understanding of economics in theory and in practice limits you.
Your continual efforts to obfuscate by deliberately conflating politics with economics is enough to give a rational person a headache.
You seem to fail to understand that the two do not exist in a vacuum unrelated to each other.
What other reaction? They’ll bend the knee to Trump and do his bidding? Not gonna happen. They will say fuck you and raise tariffs.
Seen my all the countries that have changed behaviors in the last few weeks. Or China in the past.
It must suck for you that reality always proves your theories wrong.
You mean Canada and Mexico doing things they were going to do anyway?
A politician is someone who sees a parade, then runs to the front, and acts like he’s leading it.
That’s what Trump did, and you fell for it.
lol. It’s already happened - Colombia, Canada, Mexico,…
Trump’s tariffs are magic. They will protect domestic industries by raising prices of imports while also being a negotiating tool to achieve zero tariffs. They can be protectionist and zero at the same time! Magic!
TTTRRRRUUUUUMMMMPPPP!
I do not claim to be an economist, but the gist of this article seems to be that since the US producers or so innovative and competitive, it is only fair that they/we should be willing to pay more for being successful and be willing to "prop up inefficient domestic industries"
abroad.
I'm betting this guy is a big fan of NATO, too.
What is exactly is the threat of “retaliation” if Country C is currently taxing our Autos at 20% and we raise our auto tariffs on them from 2.5% to 20%?
I would be in favor of replacing income tax with tariffs.
I am not in favor of adding the burden of tariff costs to my already ridiculous levels of income tax.
If you take the federal budget and compare it to total imports, tariff rates would be so high that few would pay them. In other words, tariffs cannot fund government as it is. Cut it by 90% or so and it could work. Unfortunately Social Security and Medicare are 50% of the budget and off limits.
Cut it by 90% or so and it could work.
I accept these terms.
But sarc refuses even 1% cuts. So boom, he wins.
“By contrast, the U.S. has long thrived on a system that prioritizes free markets, lower taxes, and a business-friendly regulatory environment.”
Gasp!!! We are Nazis!!!
We should ... but we probably won't. See? I can summarize this article in one short sentence! The government don't care, they don't have to!
Here’s another thing to consider. Tariffs are probably the easiest tax to collect. When goods come into the country by ship, rail, truck or whatever, the importer pays a fee. Don’t need a huge IRS infrastructure. Just some guys at the ports and other entry points.
That is why the fledgling United States relied on them. The government wasn’t big enough to levy other taxes.
Some small nations still rely on tariffs as their only source of revenue for that very reason.
Just something to think about.
The problem is spending, not tax receipts.
FUCK YOU, CUT SPENDING!
What are you, a Nazi?
Cut spending to 2018 levels and we’d be halfway to a balanced budget.
Which president was that? Maybe we should re-elect him.
"... and regulation, and the size of the federal workforce. Understood." - DJT
"BUT MUH BORDURZ! MUH TEARIFFS! MUH GLOBULIZASHUN!" - Reason
I am more optimistic about actual cuts than I have ever been. But that is a very low bar to clear.
Reason's backhanded retreat from libertarianism as Trump tries and does what Classical Liberals since at least the Clinton or even Reagan Era have tried and done more than offsets the optimism with annoyance, IMO.
The biggest difference between Reagan’s cuts and Trump’s cuts is the former did much of it legislatively while the latter is acting like a king.
The biggest difference is that Reagan extracted PROMISES of cuts during negotiations that were never honored by Congress
Let me see if I understand the author's argument:
US Corporations are innovative, successful, and doing everything right. Therefore, we need to kneecap them in order to level the playing field.
And if we don't continue to kneecap them, foreign adversaries might kneecap more US companies or their own companies or even their own economies in retaliation. Better that we all hobble into a Sino-Russo-Euro Socialist future rather than risk letting socialists kneecap themselves.
An important factor not considered in this article, the comments here, the pols or the public is, what constitutes an "American company?"
The overwhelming majority of companies involved in international trade are also multinational companies. Whether they are U.S. headquartered or not.
I once worked for a fortune 200 that was founded 175 years ago and still has their worldwide headquarters on Park Avenue. However, we were constantly reminded when we questioned some business decision that it was a multinational company and would work within the parameters of whatever country they were building and/or selling product in.
This included essentially bribery in many third world countries. You'd be surprised how many vehicles the company purchased for it's plants in Nicaragua ended up in the hands of the Sandinistas soon after delivery to the plants.